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7195635 No.7195635 [Reply] [Original]

I had no idea the plot of this game came straight out of a tokusatsu. Watch Hakaider, it's the same practically point for point.

>> No.7195782

Really it's not surprising that some Japanese game devs are probably big fans of tokusatsu hero shows. Some just have it more on their sleeve then others.

>> No.7195793

>>7195635
The series goes full fucking toku in ZX, just you wait

>> No.7195802

just watched the trailer for Hakaider, looks great OP. Thanks

>> No.7195959

>>7195782
I was just taken aback at how directly it was copied. Pretty much the only plot difference is Ciel dies in the original.

Sergio Leone got sued for remaking Yojimbo as a western, why didn't Inti get sued for this?

>> No.7195967

>>7195959
I guess because toku hero stories are such a mainstream consciousness thing in Japan that it doesn't matter.

>> No.7195998
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7195998

>The game's characters were designed by Toru Nakayama

>> No.7196002

>>7195635
It's a generic cyberpunk scenario
>Hero and plucky resistance vs evil dictator in a dystopia

>> No.7196235

>>7196002
Nah, Takuya Aizu talked in interviews specifically about copying it.

>> No.7196264

I don't know why you sound so surprised. The story of Megaman (original) is almost directly lifted from Android Kikaider. The most obvious reference is that Protoman is Saburo (Hakaider). People think first of Racer X (Speed Racer), but aside from the helmet, everything is directly lifted from Saburo.

And really, it's not surprising that Japanese devs are fans of tokusatsu or anime. Hell, the Shine Spark from Metroid is an attack used by Getter Robo!

>> No.7196272
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>>7196264
Forgot pic.

>>7196235
I think there's a dissonance here between reality and expectation. Japanese creators don't hide their influences, while Western ones do, simply because they fear being called out on ripping other people off. Very few creators have the courage to directly acknowledge their references, but it's becoming more common over the years (see Tarantino).

Two interesting bits of trivia:
- George Lucas admitted the Indiana Jones idol scene was lifted from a Scrooge McDuck comic.
- Anno said that Evangelion lifted so much from Devilman that he was afraid of getting sued.

>> No.7196325

>>7195998
>>7195635
Which is mostly trash.

>> No.7196335

>>7196264
I never saw Kikaider but I always assumed Rockman was based on Astro Boy and Casshern.

>> No.7196343

Hope Capcom make Rockman Ciel and Megaman ZX Genesis canon.

>> No.7196378

>>7196335
Both Astro Boy and Kikaider have plot points that are never brought up in Megaman: Astro was an unwanted creation (he was given to the circus), while Kikaider was made to protect his creator's kids. Still, the parallels with Kikaider are stronger - the antagonist in Kikaider is Prof. Gill (Dr. Wily), another genius in robotics, while Astro Boy has no clearly defined antagonist (at first).

But really, Protoman is Saburo, through and through.
- brother of the protagonist (although Saburo is younger than Kikaider, while Protoman is older than Megaman)
- uses shades
- yellow scarf (signifies a villain or anti-hero - a heroic scarf is red)
- and the biggest one, they both whistle to announce their presence

>> No.7196392

>>7196378
Indeed but no one points Dr. Doppler resembles Dr. Tenma alike for year.

>> No.7197298

Is there any guide/list of what inspired the different megaman designs, plots and other stuff?

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>>7197298
I don't think there is, but you can usually tell what influenced the characters just by looking at them if you're aware of the source material. Like how watching Casshern makes pic related's similarity to its protagonist more apparent, or how similar the finalized Sigma design looks to Braiking Boss.

>> No.7199245

>>7196378
I'm now watching Kikaider(2000) for the first time

>> No.7200918

>>7196325
retard
Nakayama is godsent

>> No.7203471 [DELETED] 

>>7200918

>> No.7203571

>>7200918
Retard as in you retard with awful taste

>> No.7203663

>>7196343
Based