/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.7190972]

FFVI > FFVII

[Anonymous No.7191000]

>>7190972
Is this fan art?

[Anonymous No.7191050]

>>7191000
Dissidia NT screenshot

[Anonymous No.7191056]

For some reason now I want to play ff6

[Anonymous No.7191067]

>>7191050
Game sucks

[Anonymous No.7191113]

any other thread >>> this one
fuck off for the love of god, this thread is absolute shit

[Anonymous No.7191147]

>>7190972
>Final Fuckery
nah son it's all weebshit

[Anonymous No.7191149]

>>7191147
anime website

[Anonymous No.7191156]

>>7191149
still weebshit you weeb

[Anonymous No.7191157]

>>7191156
Go back to rebbit

[Anonymous No.7191163]

>>7191147
>>7191156
>Twitter users

[Anonymous No.7191169]

>>7191157
make me

[Anonymous No.7191220]

>>7191056

T-Edition is basically done now I think.

[Anonymous No.7191398]

>>7190972
Agreed. FFVI was the crowning achievement of the 16-bit sprite era while FFVII was a hot mess with inconsistent art style and glitchy graphics.

[Anonymous No.7191442]

Tifa > Tina

[Anonymous No.7191450]

>ff6fags still crying decades later

[Anonymous No.7191453]

>>7191442
Who is Tina?

[Anonymous No.7191631]

>>7190972
6 is the same movie shit as 7 except the movie sucks and the gameplay is completely broken instead of poorly balanced

[Anonymous No.7191649]

>>7190972
Why did she suddenly have blonde hair and blue eyes? The Japs sure are obsessed with this phenotype.

[Anonymous No.7191652]

>>7191453
Tina is Terra

[Anonymous No.7191674]

>>7191453
Nvm I googled it. Why did Square constantly rename characters for different locations? I'm kinda glad we got Terra as is sounds more regal and not like some 80's whore turning tricks on a street corner. I would have preferred Aeris to Aerith with a lithsp though.

[Anonymous No.7191676]

FFVI has some issues FFVII fixed. VI's micromanagement is a pain. You can tell it's the first game to let you freely swap active characters because it's an annoying process and there are SO MANY different equips that need to be swapped around in a game that forces you to jump between active party members all game long. FFVII is super streamlined in comparison.

[Anonymous No.7192227]

FFVI is just a gorgeous, well-written and musically fantastic story-game. I'd rather replay FFV which had far, far, FAR superior gameplay to FFVI or FFVII, and equally great music even if it doesn't look as good or have the story FFVI did.

FFVII had the systems to have good gameplay (wouldn't match FFV but would enjoy a sizable fun increase) but held back its variety of actually interesting options until too late into the game, wasting it almost completely. A lot of it wouldn't be overpowered even in Midgar, and would add sorely needed complexity to it so you don't have to be limited to Stab, Stab But Using MP, and Heal early on.

[Anonymous No.7192253]

>>7191674
It wasn't Square who localized the games. Nearly all RPG at the time had absolutely random name changes. FF6 is fairly harmless with just Tina and Mash being renamed entirely and Lock, Stragos and Cayenne getting respelled.

[Anonymous No.7192269]

>>7190972
More news at 11.

[Anonymous No.7192378]

when is ff6 getting the ff7 remake treatment?

[Anonymous No.7192379]

>here's your main protagonist, bro

[Anonymous No.7192390]

Soooo....which FF should I play first?
I need to try a turn-based rpg besides poke rby.
I've played Crises Core. FFIV looks pretty cool.

[Anonymous No.7192415]

>>7192390
Tactics and don't bother with the rest

[Anonymous No.7192418]

>>7192379
Why was he so obsessed with Quentin Tarantino's facial aesthetics? Did he like his face so much?

[Anonymous No.7192420]

>>7192379
I didn't know Terra was jewish, that's cool I guess

[Anonymous No.7192424]

>>7192379
>thanks for the concept art, here's the sprite

[Anonymous No.7192426]

[Anonymous No.7192521]

>>7192426
strago is as beefy as sabin

[Anonymous No.7192525]

>>7192426
why is mog so racist

[Anonymous No.7192534]

>>7192525
because asians have slant eyes.

[Anonymous No.7192537]

>>7192534
wtf man you can't just say something like that

[Anonymous No.7192541]

>>7192537
pretty sure i can.

[Anonymous No.7192549]

>>7190972
I beat 6 and it seems worse than 7 in every way. Why do hipsters gravitate towards it so much?

[Anonymous No.7192562]

>>7192390
ff4 is a classic but it sits at a crossroads of simpler previous gen rpgs and the (at the time) new gen, so it's kind of overly straight forward and bland. basically it's an snes game with nes sensibilities.

if you like sprite art i'd play ff6. if you prefer 3d then ff7.

[Anonymous No.7192585]

>>7192549
You just answered your own question.

[Anonymous No.7192736]

>>7191067
But it's cute

[Anonymous No.7192808]

>>7191000
Yes, shitty fan art too because Terra has green hair.

[Anonymous No.7192815]

>>7191649
Because they considered the shitty little scribbles by Amano to be canon over the actual in game sprites.

[Anonymous No.7192817]

>>7192808
Let's see you do better.

[Anonymous No.7192828]

>>7192426
Soul
>>7192379
Souless

[Anonymous No.7192831]

>>7191649
Blonde hair and blue eyes rank highest on the attractiveness scale plus it makes brownies like you seethe hard.

[Anonymous No.7192832]

did you know that ff6 is the only final fantasy game with a female lead character? it's true...

[Anonymous No.7192845]

>>7192832
"...and here's why that's a good thing."

[Anonymous No.7192874]

>>7192832
But it doesn't pass the Bechdel test.

[Anonymous No.7192875]

>>7192874
>you men have to add more female characters to your fictional stories!
>how dare you, a male, try to write a female character! that's sexist!

[Anonymous No.7193009]

>>7192426
Is that supposed to be celes left of Sabin? Big fucking yikes. Fucked up tranny face going on

[Anonymous No.7193023]

>>7192875
The "Bechdel test" is that there's two female characters in your story and they have a conversation that doesn't focus on men.
However, he still is a shitposter because Terra and Celes do. In fact their interactions throughout the game never focus on men, only themselves and each other.

[Anonymous No.7193041]

>>7193023
if you try to make a story appeal to everybody it ends up appealing to nobody

if "female jrpg players" were a real market then there'd be games targeting them. but the reality is they barely exist, women are more likely to just read stories instead of play video games for the story, that's why there's a metric shit ton of fantasy books targeting female readers

[Anonymous No.7193043]

>>7192832
Are you just ignoring lightning because she's cloud with tits?

[Anonymous No.7193049]

>>7193043
lightning is biologically male, did you even play the ff13s?

[Anonymous No.7193054]

>>7193023
IIRC there's 1 conversation between them about Locke and celes, but the lack of male gossip makes the conversation more meaningful

[Anonymous No.7193229]

>people who like FFIV: well, this was enjoyable!
>people who like FFV: such fun! I loved the jobs
>people who like FFVII: had a great time with it! the hype was worth it!
>people who like FFIX: truly the last of the old school FFs! magical!
>people who like FFX: the last one that was good! I cried at the end!
*record scratch*
*enter the mentally ill*
>people who like FFVI: IT'S THE BEST AND FFVII IS SHIT! I FEEL COMPELLED TO COMPARED MY GAME TO FFVII CONSTANTLY!
>people who like FFVIII: YOU JUST GOT PLEBFILTERED! UNDERRATED! IT'S FOR SMART PEOPLE ONLY! LEAGUES BETTER THAN VII!

[Anonymous No.7193250]

>>7193229
FFVIII is based

[Anonymous No.7193265]

>>7193054

does it, tho? Most of the male cast talks about women in their lives, and are the rest of us to believe this somehow diminishes their character or sexual identity based on some truly arbitrary sexist measuring stick? Doesnt pass the sniff test.

but on the other side of the coin

>>7193041
>if "female jrpg players" were a real market then there'd be games targeting them.

there are in japan, they're skinned with the trappings of dating sims, and the rpg stuff is usually pretty shallow, but they exist.

>women are more likely to just read stories instead of play video games for the story, that's why there's a metric shit ton of fantasy books targeting female readers

But the point was not about all women, but women who play vidya. I think there's probably an interest for that sort of thing that's been untapped, but someone will have to make a product first intended to be consumed and let the chips fall where they may.

[Anonymous No.7193278]

>>7193229

I love the absolute cluelessness of this cartoon, how even the cartoonist has lost the plot on the double-edge sword of this. Using the loaded phrase of 'deeply held beliefs' betrays the artist's intended way they want the reader to receive this, but it utterly fails to see this happens in both directions.

[Anonymous No.7193281]

>>7193265
>there are jrps that target females, they're just disguised as dating sims!

no, those are actually dating sims, we're talking about jrpgs

>I think there's probably an interest for that sort of thing that's been untapped

there isn't or else they would be making them, women as a group just aren't interested in autism simulators inb4 b-b-but muh streaming waifu, they play for tips, not fun

[Anonymous No.7193290]

>>7191442

Tina? TINA?!?

wtf bro

[Anonymous No.7193294]

>>7193281
What's the difference between a dating sim and a JRPG?

[Anonymous No.7193298]

>>7193041
There are actually a lot of "female JRPG players." They just happen to gravitate to games that don't go out of their way to appeal to them. Kingdom Hearts, for example.

[Anonymous No.7193351]

>>7193281
>no, those are actually dating sims, we're talking about jrpgs

look, if you're going to try to neuter the discussion about what makes a jrpg as to eliminate all the constituent elements when they appear outside of what you want the definition to be, then i'll just ignore it for now.

>>7193294
I wouldn't hold your breath for an answer.

>>7193298
but whats really sad is when some clueless actually sexist fuck tries to read into it some kind of specific meaning behind its popularity with females and either a:argue that it was intended to appeal to them or b:try to use elements from it in a copycat effort to make another game targeted toward female on false premise.

There's enough room to consider idiocy at all angles here.

[Anonymous No.7193525]

>>7192379

[Anonymous No.7194026]

>>7193229
>People who like FFXIII: See pic related.

[Anonymous No.7194031]

>>7194026
Aw, fuck. I thought I was in a /vrpg/ thread. Disregard previous post, I suck cocks.

[Anonymous No.7194036]

>>7190972
>blonde

[Anonymous No.7194637]

>>7194036

[Anonymous No.7195321]

>>7193023
>So, you were born with the power of magic!? Isn't it a lovely gift...
??? She didn't know? She was a general in the empire.

[Anonymous No.7195326]

>>7191169
nigger

[Anonymous No.7195350]

>>7191147
>not Final Faggotry

[Anonymous No.7195948]

>>7190972
FFVII
>Alien virus intercepts the planet
>was then used and infused to birth the most edgiest of edgelords
>A blondie was then placed in the mix
>go on a fucking cat and mouse chase for the first 2 CDs that is in actuality reuniting the alien virus
>powers up silver haired edgelord to summon a meteor to burn the planet
>heroes stop him and win
>the end

FFVI
>Be in a world devoid of magic thanks to the Empire
>woman being the definitive half of the magic looking to take down the empire
>gathers allies goes on many skirmishes to take out said empire
>in the middle of their battles, they discover that the source of magic is still out there
>Empire feigns to parley, but a fucking lunatic clown curbstomps his emperor and garnest the source of the most powerful of magics.
>literally ends the fucking world.
>heroes go on a desparate means to reunite and take down the clown god
>reunites and tears down clown god's tower like how God tore down Babel.
>the fucking end.

Idk folks. Both have their charms. But if FFVI was treated with a remake, I would pay top dollar love to see Kefka cause the cataclysmic demise of their world in glorious fucking 3D.

[Anonymous No.7196138]

>>7195948
>But if FFVI was treated with a remake, I would pay top dollar love to see Kefka cause the cataclysmic demise of their world in glorious fucking 3D.

Me too but it would probably take 8 games to get to WoR and it would likely be cancelled due to underperforming after 3 or 4.

[Anonymous No.7196412]

Is there any value in playing the original FF4 or can I just play the DS remake on Steam?

[Anonymous No.7196527]

>>7196412
>the DS remake on Steam
Play the PSP version.

[Anonymous No.7196553]

I long for a full on Remake of FFVI, I don't care what people say or how much money FFVII makes. FFVI is far superior, better characters better story, plus I want to fucking suplex a Train in HD and die to the Glory of Kefka. Also, fuck One-Winged Angel when you have 17 mins of insanity that is Dancing Mad.

[Anonymous No.7196649]

>>7196553
>I long for a full on Remake of FFVI
It's going to be crappy photorealistic nomura garbage

[Anonymous No.7196959]

>>7196649
Joke's on you because I think Final Fantasy XV is a masterpiece.

[Anonymous No.7197013]

>>7195321
It's an error in the SNES translation, they actually know each other
https://legendsoflocalization.com/final-fantasy-vi/part-05/#magical-reunion

[Anonymous No.7197225]

>>7191220
Please sir, a link?

[Anonymous No.7197258]

>>7196412
Polygonal DS/mobile one is a remake, so it's pretty different content-wise to the SNES/GBA/PSP one.

[Anonymous No.7197267]

>>7197225

[Anonymous No.7197626]

>>7194036
Just like Amano intended

[Anonymous No.7197841]

>>7196959
What did you think of Episode Ardyn? I really enjoyed XV, its setting, backstory, and characters, but Episode Ardyn and its anime prologue totally ruined it for me.

[Anonymous No.7198368]

>>7192378
hopefully never
don't fix what ain't broken
except Evade and Sketch, we won't talk about those

[Anonymous No.7198387]

>>7191649
the answer I heard somewhere is that the nips think the white man's blond hair is "exotic" bc all slanteyes look the same
that's why they made her hair green for the Western release

[Anonymous No.7198753]

>>7192562
They didn't really figure out plot structure until FFV. So while FFIV starts out amazing the story rapidly deteriorates and turns into a series of increasingly absurd ass pulls that exist just to either juggle your party members or move you to the next dungeon.

[Anonymous No.7198796]

>>7197267
Very clever.

[Anonymous No.7199040]

>>7198796
>>7197225
http://ngplus.net/index.php?/forums/topic/992-mod-information-translation/&
found it with google for anyone lazy who wants it

[Anonymous No.7199054]

>>7196412

I've played almost all versions. I still like the original's sounds, musics, and effects above all the others, even though there are good things in the others. And, since the story of ff4 is pretty derivative, its presentation doesn't really make as much a diff either.

I normally don't make a 'purity' argument, but this is my exception.

[Anonymous No.7199070]

>>7197267

i admit it. i lolled.

[Anonymous No.7200146]

>>7190972
dissidia sucks
why couldn't they do an actual final fantasy smash clone?

[Anonymous No.7200871]

>>7192420
an Ashkenazi Jew in fact

[Anonymous No.7200972]

>>7190972
I cannot for the life of me understand the appeal of FFVI. I swear I tried, I've trying playing it many times and got even got pretty far, but I can't bring myself to complete it. It's just so fucking boring and mediocre (outside of the music, of course). I loved FFIV, V, VII, VIII, IX, even X was fun enough with all of it's problems, but I can't stomach VI at all. Is there something wrong with me?

[Anonymous No.7201029]

>>7193278
It's amazing how retarded you just showed yourself to be. First by incorrectly interpreting the cartoon, and then second by attempting to reprimand the artist. Good showing.