VALIS

[Anonymous No.7182107]

I hope the remaster or remake or whatever, is based in PC-Engine CD Valis IV. please.

https://www.4gamer.net/games/440/G044018/20201215121/

[Anonymous No.7182131]

>>7182107
fuck remakes and fuck you

[Anonymous No.7182141]

>>7182131
cope

[Anonymous No.7182146]

>>7182107
>VALIS remake/reboot
Damn, they really do make it much easier these days for broads to bounce back after porn, don't they?

[Anonymous No.7182147]

>>7182107
Is this series really more than a meme or worth playing?

[Anonymous No.7182178]

>>7182147
Never played the original Japanese PC version but the PC Engine version and sequels are pretty decent, ports on other consoles and especially SD/SyD Valis are the memes.

[Anonymous No.7182541]

>>7182141
you will never be a woman

[Anonymous No.7182547]

Valis is a series that could absolutely benefit from a new game, because at its absolute best the series is ok and at worst it is actual kusoge.
Given the last Valis game, though, I certainly wouldn't be hyped about any new entry.

[Anonymous No.7182558]

>>7182178
Original computer versions, even on the might Sharp x68000 (no fault of the platform, it is a direct translation of the PC98 version, jerky scrolling and all), are absolute bottom of the barrel garbage.
Genesis version of 3 is good. Otherwise, you are correct. The series is basically only good on the PC Engine.

[Anonymous No.7182576]

>>7182107
>old anime/vidya gets remade
>characters have moefaces instead of something resembling the original style

Sorry, Japan can shove its moeshit up their asses.

[Anonymous No.7182584]

Hm, I didn’t know Super Valis Akatsuki no Otome got put up on the switch eShop. But then again so many games get uploaded to it everyday and I don’t check it everyday, so I guess unless you already knew about it you’d have no way of knowing, and the search function on the eShop is quite bad.

Hopefully it’ll be an actual game and not just be a special event for some mobile phone gacha game. But knowing the current Japanese game market, I bet that’s all it’ll be sadly. Stupid phone game market.

[Anonymous No.7182589]

>>7182146
Did this game series even ever sell well enough or have enough of a fanbase to warrant a revival? Seems pretty niche.

[Anonymous No.7182591]

>>7182576
cope

[Anonymous No.7182632]

Ah yes, Valis

[Anonymous No.7182878]

>>7182589
Yeah it definitely is a niche series, so this remake comes off as surprising, to say the least. I remember a Valis thread we had on this board one or two years ago that suspiciously looked like datamining though

[Anonymous No.7183041]

>>7182591
He's right, japenese have been doing this generic ass shit for well over 10 years now. 80 and 90's were much better. Zoomie doesnt get it and all he has to say about it is "cope".

[Anonymous No.7183053]

>>7183041
are you done crying?

[Anonymous No.7183079]

[Anonymous No.7183085]

>>7183079
>cherrypicking.jpg
WIPE YOUR DAMN TEARS!

[Anonymous No.7183094]

>>7182107
HELL YES I CAN'T WAIT TO HAVE ANOTHER REMAKE WITH ABSOLUTELY SHITTY NU-ANIME CHARACTERS INSTEAD OF THE AWESOME DESIGNS OF THE ORIGINALS

[Anonymous No.7183098]

>>7183094
cope

[Anonymous No.7183103]

>>7183094
LOOKIN' GOOD

[Anonymous No.7183121]

>>7182576
This. Modern animu style isn't as attractive looking as the 80s or 90s was, did they forget how to draw that? It should be piss easy with modern tech.

>>7182146
Also this. Imagine Nintendo making a Metroid eroge when the company is on the verge of bankrupcy, hoping to earn some easy buck from coomers, and then revisiting the series, everyone would remember the porn game anyway.

>>7182589
The series is a cult classic among Japanese gamers but other than that it's pretty mediocre weebshit.

>>7182141
>>7182591
>>7183053
>>7183098
DURRR COPE COPE BASED BASED CRINGE CRINGE LE ZOOMER I'M A BOOMER, ZOOM ZOOM ZOOMIES

[Anonymous No.7183152]

>>7183103
The fuck did they did to my "Oya-bean" bro.

[Anonymous No.7183165]

>>7183121
DURRR COPE COPE BASED BASED CRINGE CRINGE LE ZOOMER I'M A BOOMER, ZOOM ZOOM ZOOMIES

[Anonymous No.7183210]

>>7183121
Seething? It's anime from japan.

[Anonymous No.7183223]

>>7183079
Holy smokes
What happened?

[Anonymous No.7183230]

So I heard you like awesome redesign?

[Anonymous No.7183236]

>>7182107
OPs pic is better than anything posted in this thread.

[Anonymous No.7183238]

>>7183230
Blegh, at least they allowed you to swap to the original style

[Anonymous No.7183260]

>>7183079
Got the image in which original and nu-anime versions of this scene were compared?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-cPeCBLuoE

[Anonymous No.7183263]

inb4 Valis X-2

[Anonymous No.7183364]

>>7183230
Eh, some male characters are okay, like that dude on the top-right actually looks like a finished drawing and many shoulderpads are kind of too comically oversized originally. The female characters, holy shit they all look worse, and not even just for modesty reasons cuz that top-left chick looks so much more unique and ethereal.
>>7183263
My bet's on a compilation with a Famicom version of Valis II.

[Anonymous No.7183561]

>>7183364
>Famicom version of Valis II
dude what?

[Anonymous No.7183573]

>>7183238
Poor Japs had to download DLC for it though and most westerners are too new to the series to appreciate the privilege of havimg it in the base disc.
Realtalk, why wasn't the Langrisser Mobile art an option? It's seriously the best Langrisser has looked, no bullshit.

[Anonymous No.7183627]

>>7183561
There's a trend in compilations to include a new rom as an incentive to buy, like Fantasy Zone 2 16-bit, Aladdin Director's Cut or GG Aleste 3. This must be a prediction on that.

[Anonymous No.7183684]

>>7183627
I thought there were developing legit Valis II on the Famicom back in the day but didn't release it. So a demake, huh? The first game on FC sucked big time anyway.

[Anonymous No.7183695]

>>7183684
Valis Famicom wasn't done by telenet and it's shit
Play MSX Valis for the real experience, it's open metroidvania world with keys and upgrades.

[Anonymous No.7183706]

>>7183695
But the MSX one has shitty scrolling.

[Anonymous No.7183712]

>>7183695
The series progression goes like his
>Telenet made Valis 1 and 2 on MSX which are semi-open world exploration games like MSX Castlevania and Rusty
>later ported to PC98 and Sharp 68k
>they remade Valis 1 on Sega Genesis/Megadrive and Valis 2 on Pc Engine as straightforward action games which became the norm for the rest of the series
>Valis FC is unrelated third party garbage

[Anonymous No.7183714]

>>7183706
And even shittier jumping physics but that's how the series was originally meant to be, slow paced exploration games.

[Anonymous No.7183721]

>>7183712
Hate to be that anon, but ACKTCHUALLY, Valis II was originally for PC-Engine and Jap computer version was the remake, look it up.

[Anonymous No.7183737]

>>7183721
Would you look at that it's true, looks like they were co developed and came out a month apart.

[Anonymous No.7183840]

>>7182141
>>7182107
Forget those uninteresting remake

[Anonymous No.7183843]

>>7182576
>>7183094
Moe style is a win win

[Anonymous No.7183849]

>>7182146
Valis X should get released on GameCube, Dreamcast and possibly Xbox....instead we have worsened than trash.

[Anonymous No.7183853]

>>7182178
>Never played the original Japanese PC version but the PC version

[Anonymous No.7183868]

>>7183853
If PC Engine isn't a console, neither is Family Computer.

[Anonymous No.7184006]

>>7182178
The original computer versions of Valis are "oi me speccy" in Japanese
Valis 1-3 is pretty jankwave, 3 on Genesis is decent, most people think 2 on PCE is the worst and Syd is a retard version of 2
The "remake" of Valis 1 for PCE CDROM (even though it's the only Valis 1 on the system) is one of the best Valis games and it was made after the original versions of 1-4.
Valis 4 is the one everybody likes but on PCE, the SNES version is a completely different game
If you're interested the computer versions of Valis II were made for the coomer market and have full nudity, way before they sold the series to a porn company.

[Anonymous No.7184018]

>>7182131
Based

[Anonymous No.7184024]

>>7182576
Holy shit, dreadful.

[Anonymous No.7184026]

>>7183843
It's shit, lazy, and less detailed.

[Anonymous No.7184031]

>>7183121
>did they forget how to draw that?
basically. there are new generations of artists at work and the trends have moved on, so what can one expect. there are still some artists who are either still active from back in the day or the ones who can emulate or downright copy different styles.

[Anonymous No.7184040]

>>7182107
She's hot

[Anonymous No.7184043]

>>7183230
>>7184026
I threw up a little. Can't they get Urushihara or at least try to mimic his style?

[Anonymous No.7184045]

how about some improvements?

[Anonymous No.7184051]

>>7183230
They made everyone turn into a sleepy bean face.

[Anonymous No.7184057]

While I agree with the sentiment. Valis' art is most definitely not Urushihara. In fact, some of it is actually terrible, like the computer versions.

[Anonymous No.7184080]

>>7184045
Not half bad, but kinda unnecessary

[Anonymous No.7184101]

>>7184045
Not half bad, but kinda unnecessary. Gley Lancer is the star of the cover(it's in the title), not Lucia and uh forgot the name.

>>7184057
>Urushihara
I just brought up his name because he was the gold standard at some point in time. Yes, some of the original Valis art was rough, especially related to the home computer games. But the illustrations from the console games are definitely more interesting than...whatever they came up with now.

[Anonymous No.7184119]

>>7184057
>like the computer versions.
I've grown fond of X68000 era Valis and her huge saucer eyes

[Anonymous No.7184127]

>>7184119
peak aesthetics

[Anonymous No.7184142]

>>7182107
It will be based on the eroge.

[Anonymous No.7184148]

>>7184142
ah fuck...

[Anonymous No.7184150]

>>7184119
I appreciate the level of detail, but man I'm not down with that style. Console version looks better.
Somewhat related. What's the point of putting your game on a CD ROM if you can't be bothered to add full screen art? You could fit this shit on a hucard.

[Anonymous No.7184165]

I'm playing the PCE-CD version o Valis I and I'm stuck at a level where you have to go up, there's an elevator with archers and some traps. I know the answer is git gut but I'm diyng so much it's getting boring.

[Anonymous No.7184176]

>>7184165
Have to play it like a shoot em up. Checkpoints have very difficult recovery and it is best to roll through a level on the first go.

[Anonymous No.7184191]

>>7184057
I really liked the faces in the PC Engine ones
I used to stop and gaze at the ads for the English version in game magazines

[Anonymous No.7184201]

>>7184150
CDs were cheaper to produce. While the drives were expensive at first, the medium itself was always far cheaper than ROM cartridges.

[Anonymous No.7184208]

>>7184150
If that's regular (not Super) CD-ROM, it's only got 64K RAM to work with
So scenes with real animation in them tended to be like that
Like check out the Ys 1 or 2 opening and see which parts are full screen and which parts are small

[Anonymous No.7184214]

>>7184208
That makes sense. And yeah, CD has a 1989 copyright, so that's probably the case.

[Anonymous No.7184223]

>>7182107
nobody itt bringing up that this became a porn series basically?

[Anonymous No.7184246]

>>7184223
Yes, now. It had some suggestive scenes before, but whoever bought the rights when Telenet went bankrupt turned it into filth.

[Anonymous No.7184248]

I know people here will get mad... But I feel like the moe style is since japan started making animes for the internation audience. Or it's just by coincidence ?

[Anonymous No.7184291]

>>7184248
Makes sense
As always...foreign coomers are to blame

[Anonymous No.7184318]

>>7184248
I'm no anime expert at all, but I feel like it's just because the studios became lazy, and realized they could still make mad money with generic artstyle, generic animations, and generic characters.
Kinda like the big tech flat art we see everywhere on the web now.

[Anonymous No.7184789]

>>7182131
Glad we have smart people on this board.

[Anonymous No.7184837]

>>7184026
>It's shit, lazy, and less detailed
Its also cheaper anon, its one of the biggest reasons why animation looks like shit compared to the productions of the 80s and early 90s

[Anonymous No.7184964]

>>7184837
You'd think that technology would make creating something that looks good easier. Instead it just makes creating something that looks really ugly easier. See basically every polygon game that is released today.

[Anonymous No.7185140]

>>7184789
Watch better anime you fucking retarded nostalgia boomer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ2VIScT0OQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuHozLGduKA

>>7183236
Yeah there's nothing wrong with her new design

[Anonymous No.7185143]

>>7185140
meant for >>7183121 >>7183079

[Anonymous No.7185352]

>>7184964
Same with almost every consumer product made today.

[Anonymous No.7185378]

>>7185352
>>7184964
Deluded cope

[Anonymous No.7185384]

>>7183085
It's not cherrypicking. You can easily compare a single franchise to itself to see the effect that modern animation techniques have had on the medium. It's been streamlined to hell and back to the point that we're in something of a Hanna Barbera style era.

[Anonymous No.7185385]

>>7183868
>if zoom zoom zoom
If something is a PC because it has PC in the name then the PC engine is a PC

[Anonymous No.7185392]

>>7185384
animation in DBSuper is better than previous titles

[Anonymous No.7185394]

>>7185140
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ2VIScT0OQ
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuHozLGduKA
these look awesome btw

[Anonymous No.7185405]

>>7185392
Oh yeah. Definitely.

[Anonymous No.7185430]

>>7184026
>No cameltoe on the new one
absolutelydisgusting.jpg

[Anonymous No.7185439]

>>7185405
>cherrypicking bad frames
still better than before

[Anonymous No.7185461]

>>7185439
That still looks better though...

That also wasn't just "bad frames." The entire fight looked like such garbage they had to redraw it for the Blu-rays.

[Anonymous No.7185474]

>>7185461
already showed you examples of high quality modern animation >>7185140 and you're busy looking for bad frames in tv series to cope and justify wearing nostalgia goggles

[Anonymous No.7185507]

>>7182107
I favor 3 more than 4. I read they also bought up the Cosmic Fantasy series which excites me. I also think that new Yuko you posted looks better than the old style

[Anonymous No.7185545]

>>7185507
>not owning Valis X
Based.

[Anonymous No.7185603]

>>7185507
show us your save files/play time and achievements, no one gives a fuck about plastic forms of games you can download for free

[Anonymous No.7185648]

>>7184043
They literally got Urushihara. The left is his version of the new character.

[Anonymous No.7185698]

>>7183230
At least that mobile game tried with it's art. Goddamn.

[Anonymous No.7185893]

>>7184026
Man, what really gets me about this, is as fap bait-y as the original art is, it still looks more realistic than the remake art. Outfit actually has some mass to it. It's a completely ridiculous costume, but it's still drawn as if it was an actual thing that existed in a 3d space. It wrinkles, it sticks out from the body, even the gloves look like they're actually cloth. The new one has painted on clothing everywhere and everything looks like it's made of some cheap material. Fuck, even the boobs are less realistic on the new art.

[Anonymous No.7185910]

>>7185648
*pukes*

[Anonymous No.7185914]

>>7185603
Look at this poorfag. Look at him an laugh.

[Anonymous No.7185916]

>>7185893
>The new one has painted on clothing everywhere and everything looks like it's made of some cheap material
You're right, it just looks like spandex.

[Anonymous No.7185926]

>>7185914
t. collector cope

[Anonymous No.7185946]

>>7185430
>>7185893
The new one IS the original design in this case - that character is Betty, a new character designed as the female lead of an added story branch for the remake, which is why her default appearance in Mobile is the only one in the entire game based on remake art (though she has an alt skin based on the other style), so not the best example here.

[Anonymous No.7185949]

>>7185926
You will never own a nice, big house with a Japanese sports car parked in the driveway and a dedicated games room on the top floor

POORFAG
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[Anonymous No.7185951]

>>7185946

[Anonymous No.7185959]

>>7185949
>You will never own a nice, big house with a Japanese sports car parked in the driveway and a dedicated games room on the top floor
Post your mansion big boi

[Anonymous No.7185982]

>>7185946
>>7185951
Barely. Look at the ART STYLE, not CHARACTER DESIGN - Mobile might've made Ryo Nagi's outfit the default one out of obligation but they had the sense to base both versions on the Satoshi Urushihara artwork, especially in the texture, face, etc.

[Anonymous No.7185983]

>>7185959
>doxing myself
alrighty then

[Anonymous No.7185991]

>>7185983
>no mansion, sports car or gaming room
>barely plays
>can't beat hard games
>collects plastic
based

[Anonymous No.7186009]

>>7185991
Now you got it, based troglodyte

[Anonymous No.7186029]

>>7184026
>>7185430
>>7185946
>Mobile artist hated Nagi's lack of cameltoe so much they'd rather add a flimsy skirt
Absolutely fucking based.
>Realtalk, why wasn't the Langrisser Mobile art an option?
Seconded, at least it respects the original art direction if this is anything to go by, which is all it needed to do.

[Anonymous No.7186210]

>>7185474
So TV series don't count now? Keep moving that goal post.

[Anonymous No.7186221]

>>7186210
You're ignoring all good quality modern animation by cherry picking some bad frames and moeshit... old anime was full of cheap moeshit and bad frames too, you're disingenuous and bad at making your points
but continue wearing those boomer nostalgia goggles, they fit you well

[Anonymous No.7186229]

>>7186221
I'm not ignoring shit. Did I say 100% of modern animation sucks? What if I turn it around and say you're just cherrypicking the handful of good examples? The existence of good modern anime does not paint over the obvious TREND of cheap, assembly line garbage. And before you say it, yes, the cheap crap from 1995 was still better than the cheap crap from 2018.

[Anonymous No.7186245]

>>7186229
you just spoke in dumb generalizations, truth is 99% of all anime is generic shit, new or old doesn't make a difference. Only like 1% of it will be seen as ''quality'' by most viewers, unless they are hardcore otakus with no taste and just consume shit nonstop

[Anonymous No.7186249]

Langrisser is an egregious example because the original was done by one of the all time greats. It would be like if a new Dragonball game replaced the art style with a generic one.

>>7186229
>cheap crap from 1995 was still better
Depends what you mean by better. You can probably count the frames in MD Geist 2. Though a slideshow of hand drawn pictures is still better than cgi animation.

[Anonymous No.7186254]

>>7185982
>>7186029
Not just that, subtle details like the gloves and hair are mistly kept for both, and you can tell the artist gave a "fuck you" to Nag by making those hip-guard things Urushihara-sized by default.
>>7185946
>The new one IS the original design in this case
Proof? Both debuted simultaneously?

[Anonymous No.7186259]

I could tell you why the general quality of Anime dropped after 2000 but that would cross over into the realm of antisemitism and we don't want that here, do we.

[Anonymous No.7186262]

>>7186229
>What if I turn it around and say you're just cherrypicking the handful of good examples?
The funny thing is that he is despite accusing us of the same thing. Redline is a one of a kind modern passion project that took like 7 years to make.

[Anonymous No.7186268]

>>7186262
It is a high budget movie. Those have always been rare because the point of anime is to be cheap.

[Anonymous No.7186290]

>>7186262
Shit like this costs money. Can't risk that if there is no guaranteed return.

[Anonymous No.7186368]

>>7185951
I like the seam that separates her pussy lips

[Anonymous No.7186382]

>>7185991
>claim to win the argument because he doesn't dox himself to win an internet argument
Based fucking idiot

[Anonymous No.7186405]

>>7185545
I'd like to get Valis X. I had no idea about it when it released, and PC games are really expensive so I can only hope one day I find it for cheap in the stores.

>>7185603
The save files on my TurboDuo by now has been wiped, but I can play through them again one day. I don't think they measure playtime nor do I care much about it since I had already beaten them. Achievements aren't something I care much for either, I did play games limiting myself in some ways as personal challenges once mastered, but it is not a driving force in how/why I play videogames.

[Anonymous No.7186514]

>>7186405
>playing games well isn't what motivates me
right, you collect plastic cases and post pictures on /vr/ . gonna open up a shop and sell them? who the fuck cares lol

[Anonymous No.7186532]

>>7186514
yeah collectors get joy out of thinking about new purchases and staring at their game shelves. makes no sense, don't try to understand it, it's like women buying shoes they'll never wear

[Anonymous No.7186537]

>>7186262
Son, are ya comparing OVAs and movies to TV anime again

[Anonymous No.7186546]

>>7186405
I think you missed the part where I replay the games with various personal challenges and I had already beaten them. I was saying that I do not need achievements to validate my playing of the games, in some ways because some of the achievements are just grindy or leaderboard online based. I just play games to my satisfaction and when they are good, I do revisit them. I know a few co-workers are achievement hunters, and that's how they enjoy playing games, but it is just not for me.


>>7183230
Urushihara is difficult to replace. He has developed such a great style with eye-catching colors.

[Anonymous No.7186550]

meant for the reply, let me do that again

>>7186514
I think you missed the part where I replay the games with various personal challenges and I had already beaten them. I was saying that I do not need achievements to validate my playing of the games, in some ways because some of the achievements are just grindy or leaderboard online based. I just play games to my satisfaction and when they are good, I do revisit them. I know a few co-workers are achievement hunters, and that's how they enjoy playing games, but it is just not for me.


>>7183230
Urushihara is difficult to replace. He has developed such a great style with eye-catching colors.

[Anonymous No.7186558]

>>7186550
There's no Plastic Little video game, right? :(

[Anonymous No.7186582]

>>7186558
Nope

[Anonymous No.7186627]

>>7186550
Better to talk about gameplay and what you're playing or replaying or going to play, than to display cardboard and plastic for us, we know what game covers look like. Collectors should display plastic on /toys/ or whatever it's called

[Anonymous No.7186649]

>>7186382
>dox himself
Cope.
He's already posting stupid plastic shit anyone with 10 dollars can buy and admitted to not playing games much and being a shitter in general.
Only way to save face is to post his plastic game crap inside his "japanese sports car" in his big ol' millionaire garage or something. That wouldn't dox shit. How would anyone know anything?

[Anonymous No.7186652]

kek collectors and their plastic getting btfo

[Anonymous No.7186663]

>>7183223
nothing
good anime with depth or complex animation and craftmanship exists today
extremely fucking shit anime existed then too

that pic is just an unholy cherrypicking

[Anonymous No.7186668]

>>7183230
even if it can't be as good as urushihara people are crying like whores too much methinks
the redesigns are fine, stop crying a fucking river over it like if it was the case of the secret of mana remake case

[Anonymous No.7186671]

>>7186649
>>7186652
Poor angry people are funny. :^)

[Anonymous No.7186676]

>>7186668
simp

[Anonymous No.7186679]

>>7186676
simp for who

[Anonymous No.7186680]

>>7186671
post games on your suped up jap sports car big boi :^)
oh wait you don't have shit

[Anonymous No.7186684]

>>7186680
he's fucked in the head, let his collectfag autism be and don't reply

[Anonymous No.7186704]

>VALIS
>VAginal LIckS

[Anonymous No.7186750]

>>7186680
poor angry man :^)

[Anonymous No.7187151]

>>7183079
>>7186262
Aren't these classic Otaking bait images or something?

[Anonymous No.7188292]

>>7182107
Is that the same guy that drew the YU-NO remake? How that motherfucker keep getting jobs?

[Anonymous No.7188347]

>>7188292
Cope

[Anonymous No.7188356]

>>7182107
Modern Valis a cute desu.

[Anonymous No.7188361]

Shut the fuck up you retarded fucking millennialcucks haven't you done enough to this world? When are you going to make amends for your sins and stop comsooming and worshipping shit? Everything went to shit after the year 2000 and that's final.

[Anonymous No.7188387]

This is actually a series that would greatly, massively benefit from remakes or reboots since the original games all usually have some glaring flaw or a stretch of piss-poor level design that takes you out of it (like Valis 3's final boss on the PCE being essentially impossible if you are not fully powered up).

[Anonymous No.7188439]

>>7183868
Still a console.

[Anonymous No.7188443]

>>7182107
I'm playing Valis II right now. Valis I sucked, but this is fun.

[Anonymous No.7188445]

>>7183849
>>7186405
>Valis X
Burn that abomination with flaming sword.

[Anonymous No.7188460]

>>7188443
Valis 2 on the X68000? Or PC Engine?

I admit that once I got over the terrible jumping controls/physics, and the extreme jank (no i-frames leading to massive damage losses) I really enjoyed Valis 2 on the x68k. It has a grittiness and meanness that the rest of the games lack, which at least helps it stand out. Plus collecting outfits is a cute way to get you to explore and look for buffs... Just don't pick up Reiko's cursed armor in Megas' castle, permanently fucking over your character...

[Anonymous No.7188473]

>>7188443
Valis 2 is fun, if really simplistic.
>>7188460
I remember spending an hour trying to get an x68000 emulator working only to find that the version of Valis 2 on it is a direct port of the atrocious PC98 game. At least the x68000 borders on playable so I might give it another shot.

[Anonymous No.7188480]

>>7183712
>>7183737
Is the English translation for Valis 2 PC Engine bad? I don't know where half of these characters are coming from and the NES ending was retconned or something?

>>7188460
The PC Engine. I will play the other versions next. Although if they are more like Valis 1 then I won't like them.

[Anonymous No.7188492]

>>7188480
>if they are more like Valis 1

They will make you wish for more Valis 1. Assuming you played the PCE version; that game looks, plays and sounds great, it just has fucked up difficulty balancing and garbage checkpoints.
The various computer versions sound absolutely fantastic. But look mediocre and play so bad it has to be experienced to be believed. To try to explain though, the MSX and PC88 have no hardware support for scrolling playfields and it is a side scrolling action game. The x68000 version, despite being on the most powerful 16bit platform this side of the Neo Geo, is basically the PC98 version but ever so slightly less janky and ugly.

[Anonymous No.7188498]

>>7188473
>>7188492
Also, I'm using the two NEC computers interchangeably but shouldn't. I played Valis 2 on a PC98 emulator, but it is a PC88 game, which means 8bit graphics and scrolling designed for an 8bit computer rendering with software.

[Anonymous No.7188502]

>>7188492
Speaking of emulators, do you by chance have a guide on how to emulate PC-6001? I tried today and while I have the BIOS and was able to make it "start" I have no clue how to get anything to run on it.
http://eighttails.seesaa.net/
I'm using the PC6001VX emulator.

[Anonymous No.7188509]

Valis actually looks nice in 8bit. Until things start moving that is.

[Anonymous No.7188510]

>>7188356
>Modern Valis a cute desu.
Yes.

[Anonymous No.7188525]

>>7188502
Afraid not, that is too obscure for me. Only Japanese home computers I've tried emulating are PC-98, which takes some fiddling but almost always work on at least one of the two emulators, MSX, and x68000.

[Anonymous No.7188540]

[Anonymous No.7188547]

Yuko tits!

[Anonymous No.7188552]

Hasn't Valis suffered enough? What more indignity can she suffer.

[Anonymous No.7188569]

>>7182576
I will never understand people who demand a remake of things are already good, as if a remake will some how be better.

[Anonymous No.7188575]

>>7188569
Valis is exactly the type of thing that should get remade, if anything should, though. It isn't fucking Langrisser or Gunbuster, its an ok series of games with great presentation that could definitely be done better.
Not that it should get a remake though, just a new game.

[Anonymous No.7188601]

Does anyone remember that post of that guy who met his dead childhood friend wife over Valis? He named his kid after one of the characters, didn't he?

[Anonymous No.7188636]

>>7188460
"Female Mar" from Fire Emblem Awakening

[Anonymous No.7188639]

>>7188480
>NES ending was retconned or something?
I remember NES had a weird extra final boss that didn't really make sense so maybe best to overlook that weirdness.

[Anonymous No.7188648]

>>7188480
>Is the English translation for Valis 2 PC Engine bad?
Considering it translates Valis Sword as Bari Sword at random points...

The PC Engine dubs of the Valis games are incredibly laughable and infamous for how shitty they are. Their saving grace is that they don't 'change' story elements or localize, they just translate so literally and poorly that you have little clue of what's going on.

For context I'd say watch the cutscenes of Valis 1 on the genesis (the second-to-last cutscene takes up like 7 minutes in a 25 minute game loooooooooool) which sets up the world. Note I didn't say play, because Valis 1 on the genny plays like shit.

In Valis 2, the first 2 bosses are hard-gay thugs left over from Valis 1's baddy's army, the rest are the new crew from the flaming homo Megas himself.

Valis 2 has an entirely different story on the X68000 (and japanese PCs), and it tells a more interesting one full of melodrama with some fucked up bits. The PC Engine is more straightforward shoujo battle story, and I guess I would say the x68k etc. is more leaning into seinen. It's worth playing through at least once if you like the series, but the tradeoff is that it plays like shit (not impossible, but just like shit - you get used to it after restarting once or twice).

>>7188639
the extra final boss was Valia or whatever the queen of dreamland was, lol
IIRC in that version she was a secret cunt that caused all of the events to transpire to get rid of Rogles, her rival (and also a cunt). It's a neat dark twist but it makes no sense in the context of the rest of the series so they just ignored it, lol.

[Anonymous No.7188716]

>>7186649
>>7186680
>"haha faggot posts image on retro gaming image board showing his retro games"
>"oh wow you claim to collect games and have a big house to keep them all in"
>"you must be a millionaire"
>calls anon out for not posting their house on four channel dot org for internet points
you're the most retarded poster I've seen on /vr/ since the autistic tripfag who defended keeping his piss jars next to his consoles.

[Anonymous No.7188731]

When starting anniversary 35 for the Varys on North Amelican Nintendal system trademark please mark in online log point to play shiny game cheer!

[Anonymous No.7188736]

>>7185949
>>7185949
>You will never own a nice, big house with a Japanese sports car parked in the driveway and a dedicated games room on the top floor
>POORFAG!
still not seeing any displays of wealth from Mr. Moneybags.

>>7188716
>>"haha faggot posts image on retro gaming image board showing his retro games"
collector cope is pathetic lmao >>7185949 & >>7185914

sad innit?

[Anonymous No.7188738]

The fucking PC-Engine Super CD version was superior anyway

[Anonymous No.7188745]

>>7182576
We need to go back to the 80's. This non-artstyle makes me want to vomit.

[Anonymous No.7188763]

>>7188738
agreed

[Anonymous No.7188772]

>>7186245
I think you can compare the floor though. Find the bottom of the barrel crap from one era and compare it to the garbage from another. The bar can in fact be lower in one vs the other. And I think the bar today is easily lower than it was 30 years ago.

[Anonymous No.7188783]

>>7185949
>I live in my parents house, my room is full of games and they bought me a Honda Civic.

I translated this into what he really meant.

[Anonymous No.7188792]

>>7186290
This is why the quality dropped on the average. Back in the day revenue streams were more varied. Everybody watched TV so you had commercials. Merchandising was huge. And you could sell the show itself on home video. Today's streaming services have wrecked TV viewership and nobody buys home media anymore. The heyday of anime VHS and Laserdisc is long gone. So the market shifted away from the average viewer and toward the whales. That's created a feedback loop where a super small group of hardcore fans is responsible for 80% of the revenue. Making those people happy then becomes the entire goal.

[Anonymous No.7188829]

Hope this maybe leads to that mobile phone game getting rereleased in some form.
Looks decent for what it is (as good as a 2005 platform game for phones can look anyway), and the sprite work seems nice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-oSs8rhfbY

[Anonymous No.7188841]

>>7188552
hot
the manga series shows a bit of tentacle rape also but they always squirm out of it and survive

[Anonymous No.7189103]

>mfw I bought Valis III (japanese) as a teenager because it said "phantasm soldier" on the cover, so I tought it would be somewhat erotic

I never enjoyed this series.

[Anonymous No.7189121]

>>7189103
>phantasm
kek, did you think it was something like orgasm?

[Anonymous No.7189153]

>>7189121
No, but phantasm has sexual undertones in my language.

[Anonymous No.7189253]

So is this a new game for the Switch, or is it just talking about Valis IV coming to the SNES Online?

[Anonymous No.7189305]

>>7188387
why does she have clown nose ?

[Anonymous No.7189370]

>>7189253
Looks like new artwork so likely a new game, remake or compilation.

[Anonymous No.7189745]

>>7189305
>Be me
>Play Syd of Valis first
>Play other games next
>Wonder why she DOESN'T have a clown nose, or have a that sword concealed in her ice cream, oe her name isn't Syd, or...

[Anonymous No.7189752]

>>7189745
This game looks like an early HuCard game for the PC Engine. It is so weird that this is a mid era Genesis game.

[Anonymous No.7189761]

>>7188829
>>7189370
>>7189253
>>7188648
>>7188636
There some fun made testing.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=83Rxel6LSho

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zB9lmig5kx4

[Anonymous No.7189787]

>>7189752
Someone should have made Shantae HuCard.

[Anonymous No.7189849]

>>7182107
Still awaiting next-gen/3DS/Switch demake sequel to Valis IV.

[Anonymous No.7189908]

>>7188829
>/vmg/

Yup. Where it belong.

[Anonymous No.7189935]

>>7189305
Cute nose

[Anonymous No.7189961]

>>7182131
>boomers unironically think this giant fucking forehead is better

[Anonymous No.7189967]

>>7189745
An ice cream cone that transforms into a full-fledged heavenly sword sounds like a dangerous scope of ice cream, how does that even work? It's kinda the best part of the game tho, strictly speaking it's the worst version of Valis II, but I sure hope they bring conesword back in 5alis or whatever they're making.

[Anonymous No.7190123]

>>7189961
My gf has a giant forehead like that and I enjoy her compussy.

[Anonymous No.7190139]

>>7189961
>>7190123
That's a normal forehead. Pull your hair back and see. Most people's eyes are closer to the center of their head than at the top of it unless they're a homo habilis or something.

[Anonymous No.7190636]

>>7182107
bump

[Anonymous No.7191098]

>>7189961
this space for rent

[Anonymous No.7191168]

>>7189961
Nu-Remake trash.

[Anonymous No.7191174]

>>7189961
Yes. Also eat shit moefag.

[Anonymous No.7191189]

>>7189961
That's a normal forehead. Pull your hair back and look in a mirror...or are you some African
proto-human?!

[Anonymous No.7191260]

>>7188547
>Female Marth

[Anonymous No.7193149]

>>7186259
Heh? Explain plz
AFAIK, yakuzas still are the main sponsor of nip entertainment industry, and until recently, I think that subversion attempts were somewhat marginal. Also, recognizing the studios that signed a deal with the devil is pretty easy, as their series tend to have both a progressive tone and high production values. Take a look at early 2000's Madhouse, their series were visually top notch, while being pozzed as fuck (watch Black Lagoon if you haven't yet, you'll see what I mean). If I'm not mistaken, they had a deal with the J.P. Morgan bank. For what it's worth, I'm also suspicious about Mappa, Trigger, and whoever worked on Beastars

[Anonymous No.7193353]

>>7183121
>Imagine Nintendo making a Metroid eroge when the company is on the verge of bankrupcy, hoping to earn some easy buck from coomers, and then revisiting the series, everyone would remember the porn game anyway.
we will never have the Metroid II remake "Samus' XXX" where Samus is ruthlessly dominated by an "Epsilon Metroid" tentacle monster, becomes the Metroids' new queen, and has to choose between her happy new life as their breed machine or escape and carry on her cold-hearted genicidal mission.

[Anonymous No.7193379]

>>7187151
They are. Everything on the left is from movies or OVAs with high budgets while everything on the right is from TV series with a bunch of episodes with a budget that gets spread thin over those episodes. Anyone that posts that is either a new faggot that doesn't know better or a shitposter fishing for responses.

[Anonymous No.7193386]

>>7193149
Shush anon, you can't post such truths here.

[Anonymous No.7195134]

>>7193149
>while being pozzed as fuck (watch Black Lagoon if you haven't yet, you'll see what I mean)
noooooo one of the side characters can't be jewish and noooooo they can't kill neo nazis muh mustard raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace

what a fucking fag, being triggered by black lagoon