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Anonymous Sat Dec 12 03:03:46 2020 No.7167261 [Reply] [Original]

>play a JRPG
>ok this is a pretty cool fantasy setting
>it turns into a scifi setting halfway through
Why did they all do this?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 03:04:42 2020 No.7167263 Sci-fi rules fantasy drools

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 05:08:22 2020 No.7167478 File: 24 KB, 250x332, Medieval_madness_pinball_04_qvaw.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is this the pinball thread?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 05:36:12 2020 No.7167524 >>7167261 When does that happen I’m looking for more JRPGs that have scifi in then

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 08:50:16 2020 No.7167850 >>7167261 Because that was a staple until LotR-brained manchildren decided it had to be one or the other. Heck FF1 has a space station, mechs and time travel, while DQ has unexplained robot enemies.

Anonymous Sat Dec 12 14:49:31 2020 No.7168739

>>7167524
All of them, see >>7167850
It's fine and cool for what it is, but does EVERY one have to do this? Every one ends up having some "actually, this seemingly medieval magic sword and sorcery environment is just the post apocalyptic world of a futuristic high tech civilization, isn't that A TWIST?!?!" Like yeah, not when every game does it, it's not

Anonymous Sat Dec 12 16:20:08 2020 No.7169035
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>>7168739
For the most part, its due to Japans hang up from the War. Man vs. Nature and the "evil" of mans hands. Note that EVERY single advanced or mordern civilization from the past in those stories did themselves in, in a spectacular and near total way. In short, pride goeth before the fall and all, but have fun with the stuff thats left over.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 22:40:26 2020 No.7170084 >>7169035 Sure, but you don't have to keep doing it

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 22:52:05 2020 No.7170117 File: 112 KB, 1065x805, IMG_0321.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7170084 True, but try telling that to a people who are not even 100 years out of losing said war and on 35 odd years of being major video game makers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 22:59:51 2020 No.7170137 >>7167850 >DQ All monsters are cause of the demon Lord , he just felt like making a cool robot

Anonymous Sun Dec 13 04:44:37 2020 No.7170891

>>7167261
But without the moon spaceship thing in final fantasy 4 there wouldnt have been a ship I could walk around inside of which is like my favorite thing in video games (instead of like just pressing A and driving a ship from the outside like in most games)

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 05:00:34 2020 No.7170917 >>7167524 OG Star Ocean is pretty much this

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 05:03:21 2020 No.7170921 >>7167261 Are you mad that there is sci-fi elements or are you annoyed that so many of them use the same twist?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 05:23:49 2020 No.7170958 >>7170917 The third Star Ocean game is the only JRPG where I've been annoyed by the shift in setting like OP describes. I love the first Star Ocean though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 12:12:52 2020 No.7171721 >>7170921 The latter.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 13:03:04 2020 No.7171872 >>7167524 Wild Arms 3 is the first one that comes to mind when I think of games that have out of place sci-fi elements start popping up late in the game. The other games usually have the decency to establish those things earlier.

Anonymous Sun Dec 13 14:14:48 2020 No.7172174

>>7170921
Mostly the latter, though, if the point of these games is just to get immersed in the world/story it can be done right or wrong, it becomes pretty jarring to imagine you're fighting laser shooting cyborgs with swords and arrows, it just seems retarded at that point

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 14:50:55 2020 No.7172292 File: 21 KB, 519x360, IMG_0326.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7171872 WA in general did this. However it was established in the first game that tech was rare, very old and did not always work.

Anonymous Sun Dec 13 22:01:52 2020 No.7173701
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>>7172292
Wild Arms: Technology is rare, guns are considered mythical/cursed items of a war 1000 prior that put the world in the state its in.

Wild Arms 2: Technology is a somewhat mistrusted item and acts to a degree magical. Its found out that tech is not as powerful as magic

Wild Arms 3: Tech is a left over from a previous civ. that was human like us and crashed landed on Filgaia long time before. It is something to be horded as a power

Wild Arms 4: Closest to a modern state, world is trying to put itself back together after a globally devastating war, tech is considered nano machines, thus Clarke's saying goes into effect, honestly, this can be said of 2 as well

Wild Arms 5: Technology is in tandem with magic, but is weaker and seems to be something the aliens brought with them and refined more.

And remember, all of WA games are to a degree post apoc.

Anonymous Sun Dec 13 22:03:14 2020 No.7173705

>>7167524
FF4 does a 180 almost at the end with the "okay so it turns out that we need a spaceship to go to the moon because your dad was an alien and the main villain is your brother who is being mind controlled by an alien on the moon".
It had absolutely no buildup or hints of it up until the end

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 22:24:16 2020 No.7173768 My favorite pinball machine is Whitewater.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 22:27:24 2020 No.7173780 >>7167261 >>7167263 >>7167478 >>7167524 >>7167850 >>7168739 >>7169035 >>7170084 >>7170117 >>7170137 >>7170891 >>7170917 >>7170921 >>7170958 >>7171721 >>7171872 >>7172174 >>7172292 >>7173701 >>7173705 >>7173768 >>>/vrpg/

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 22:45:52 2020 No.7173815 >>7167524 Xenogears. For that matter, Xenosaga and Xenoblade Chronicles X. Also, G.O.D. Growth or Devolution. Phantasy Star, Lagrange Point, MS Saga.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 23:07:28 2020 No.7173849 File: 624 KB, 677x519, 24.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7170958 First Star Ocean was a literal Star Trek episode.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 23:21:33 2020 No.7173876 >>7167524 Phantasy Star.

Anonymous Sun Dec 13 23:32:28 2020 No.7173913

>>7167261
because a fallen world birthed from the ashes of technologically advanced civilizations is a cool setting. It's also literally the basis of lost civilization myths for thousands of years.

>>7167524
Final Fantasy I once you go to the sky temple.

Anonymous Sun Dec 13 23:37:10 2020 No.7173919
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>>7173913
The Ramayana, The Mahabharata, certain interpretations of Sumerian legend, Mu, Atlantis, Lemuria, etc. If its anything, its civilization wank. To pull from Steven Kings Dark Tower (fuck you, its decent) "Once we had great things, then we ruined them and the world moved on"
>>7173913
Space station.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 12:32:48 2020 No.7175419 >>7173919 Was it ever proved to be a space station?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 21:03:03 2020 No.7177215 File: 3.08 MB, 1546x1032, IronM-Pro-Detail-14a.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7167261

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 21:31:48 2020 No.7177301 >>7173768 Centaur, me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 22:45:01 2020 No.7177501 >>7175419 Play it, it is...and not just because of Death Machine.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 15 02:47:22 2020 No.7178065 Good thing I've barely played Pinball FX, considering people STILL haven't made a desktop-focused fork of Visual Pinball.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 15 14:10:20 2020 No.7179478 File: 338 KB, 1080x685, IMG_0306.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7173919 >>7173913 So, are you one that agrees tech SHOULD be in fantasy?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 15 14:26:11 2020 No.7179519 >Wizardry had elevators >Ultima had space travel >Might & Magic is this trope every single game >but when JRPGs do it! Ok then.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 15 17:32:30 2020 No.7180068 File: 545 KB, 1280x1572, IMG_0312.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7179519 I have come to believe its fine, mostly because of Clarkes Rule.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 15 22:04:08 2020 No.7180980 >>7180068 wut?

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