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The conspiracy theory doesn't add up for me.

Okay, so he left Nintendo to help Bandai develop the Wonderswan but that was a blip on the radar. Other than that Nintendo pushed them out of the way for all their other projects because he had the stink of the Virtual Boy on him.

This is not the kind of person you pay good money to have whacked. He presented no threat.

>> No.7165952

>>7165940
>The conspiracy theory doesn't add up for me.
There's a real good reason for that.

>> No.7165969

>>7165940
i dont know why he thought the virtual boy was a good idea

>> No.7165983

>>7165969
See, that's the thing. He didn't think it was a good idea to launch it at the time, but Nintendo pushed it out the door anyway.

>> No.7165993

>>7165969
>t. Zoomer who has never tried the VB
Which is exactly the reason it failed and Yokoi knew it; if he'd been given marketing budget as he requested, he could've got hands on demos out and people's first impressions could be "hey, that's cool!" rather than shitty grainy magazine screenshots that miss the fact that despite it being red on black, that color choice gives an immersive feeling as the pitch black background adds infinite depth to the strong red shapes. It was also a very powerful system for it's cost, and a great controller to boot.
The issue was terrible marketing and him not being allowed to create the titles he wanted to, which is why instead of a full Mario game we got Clash, which was supposed to just be a mini game.

>> No.7165996

>>7165940
>Nintendo gives all of their faith and a shit load of money to him after the INSANE success of the Gameboy
>He makes the Virtual Boy
>a fundamental and financial failure that ruined the reputation and hopes of a company looking into VR
I think it's kinda obvious that Nintendo would be bitter about that situation. Yokoi was ranked down and he did menial paperwork instead of actually designing shit after the failure of the Virtual Boy. A person getting off THAT easy and just doing paperwork is suspicious, so it makes sense to me that Nintendo wanted to teach him a lesson AFTER he left the company. It would he way too suspicious if he was killed during his employment at Nintendo.

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7166002

>a most... regrettable.... accident.....

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7166007

>>7165996
>Writing all this ignoring he designed the GBP right before leaving
>The handheld that saved the Gameboy and extending it's lifespan significantly, selling millions and millions and millions of units, being a key component to the Pokemon craze

>> No.7166048

>>7166007
And yet he stilled failed and made Nintendo angry.

>> No.7166113

>>7165940

>The conspiracy theory doesn't add up for me.

You could use that as the definition of conspiracy theories.

I think it's to help against the feeling of no control, things without reasons behind them are scary.
It cannot be that the guy had an unfortunate accident on a frequented road by pure chance, that would NEVER happen. Instead it must have come from a PLANNED controlled attack! In other words there msut have been a REASON behind it! Phew, that was close, everything is right with the world again...

>> No.7166118

>>7165993
Yeah the Virtual Boy was badass.

VB Wario Land is a great game, I have vague memories of playing it at a kiosk at Wal-Mart back in the day. People riff on the VB because it had a bunch of mediocre games, but it's like.... imagine if we judged the Genesis or the SNES or the PSX solely by their launch titles. That's not really fair, is it? The VB never had enough time for developers to actually learn the ins and outs of the system and do cool limit-pushing stuff with it. If the VB had lasted like three or four years, we'd have seen some truly amazing and unforgettable games.

>> No.7166131

>The driver of the car that hit Yokoi in the second accident was Gen Tsushima, a member of the tourism industry.
There was no conspiracy here.

>> No.7166139

>>7166131
Everybody has a price...

>> No.7166163

>>7165996
>*throwing dirt on the grave*
>i hope you've learned your lesson
Sorry, your theory is fine coming retarded. You kill people to prevent them or others from doing something. What's the lesson here? Don't ever try, or we'll kill you if you fuck up? Great business plan.

>> No.7166186

>>7165993
you sound like you just used wikipedia as a reference

>> No.7166228

>>7166118
whats with the new name wheres your tripcode

>> No.7166239

>>7166163
>fine coming
I'm sure I meant to type fucking.

>> No.7166260

>>7165940
who on earth thinks they killed him?
the most realistic scenario was him committing sudoku out of japanese shame or whatever since he was canned from Nintendo after years of being an innovator.

>> No.7166275

>>7166228
Dropped the trip after a particularly illuminating mushroom trip. Realized that tripcodes only exist to further the illusion of self.

>> No.7166386

This man invented the D-pad. Absolute legend. He was killed in a car accident - very hard to stage.

>> No.7166451

>>7166275
>>7166118
Why are you using a name on here?

>> No.7166460

>>7165940
>This is not the kind of person you pay good money to have whacked. He presented no threat.

You fell for the killing is just business meme

You kill someone to send a message or to settle a personal grudge, it's almost always the second one

>> No.7166463

>>7165969
Because VR, much like today, was trendy in the 90s

Also yes like the other Anon said, despite the red and black color palette the actual 3d effect on the virtual boy is really cool, it's just a hard sell because you HAVE to use one in person for the value to be demonstrated. Also the fact that they marketed it as some kind of game boy, which is just wasn't.

>> No.7166494

>>7165969
the man invented mobile gaming, he really was a visionary.
But like so many others, the tech just wasn't quite there yet. I'm sure his original design would have costed too much, and they had to make some cuts too.

But he wasn't wrong in that VR is insanely popular. He was just 20 years ahead of the times.

>> No.7166754

>>7166451
They do it so I can tell when I’m replying to my favorite tranny
Speaking of trips, whatever happened to gramps?

>> No.7166783 [DELETED] 

Creepypaster
E
Threadly reminder that Joe reditter simped for erin matei and got butthurt when mike rejected his pitched avgn episode script but he just ate it when mike replied in a "lmao I dont care faggot" matei fashion and then joe lashed out against fucking tony (KEK)
Also reminder joe has yet to fire back at mike after mike humiliated joe and exposed him as a cheater on a j&mm episode

>> No.7166785

>>7165940
Nobody betrays the Yakuza

>> No.7166895

>>7165993
It gives me a headache, which pretty much means none of that bullshit matters if I can't play it without feeling nauseous.

>> No.7167127

>>7166113
Which ironically creates a sense of complete lack of control when addressed rationally, as the result of such a thing being true means you lack the agency to control your life against these so called shadowy figures. Realistically it's the enticing nature of knowing something no one else truly knows or understands; that you have access to some secret knowledge about the world.

>> No.7167145

>>7166163
>What's the lesson here?
Working for your competitors is a colossal faux pas in Japanese business culture.
Yokoi was supposed to be a good little salaryman and accept his demeaning punishment.
In Yamauchi's eyes, Yokoi was a traitor.

>> No.7167150

>>7166463
VR was a gimmick in the 90s, and it's just as gimmicky now.
It will only stop being a gimmick once a proper tactile control interface becomes a reality, and that's a long way off.

>> No.7167154

>>7167145
This.
The PlayStation only exists because Nintendo backstabbed Sony in a very public and embarrassing fashion, and Sony decided to beat them at their own game purely out of spite.

>> No.7167220 [DELETED] 

Gb
Threadly reminder that Joe reditter simped for erin matei and got butthurt when mike rejected his pitched avgn episode script but he just ate it when mike replied in a "lmao I dont care faggot" matei fashion and then joe lashed out against fucking tony (KEK)
Also reminder joe has yet to fire back at mike after mike humiliated joe and exposed him as a cheater on a j&mm episode

>> No.7167225

>>7167154
Stop narrative crafting like it's a corny soap opera you schizo.

>> No.7167238

>>7167154
Sony came out on top due to Sega and Nintendo making blunder after blunder.

>> No.7167290

>>7167225
Dilating won't turn your open wound into a vagina.
kys

>> No.7167534

>>7166118
Walmart kiosk memories are the best. I remember the first time I played Super Mario 64 was while staring up at a Walmart kiosk monitor, my mind being blown by simple things like being able to explore the princess' castle.

>> No.7167536

>>7166186
What he wrote sounds like the exact opposite of that.

>> No.7167565

>>7166186
t. anti-wiki leftist

>> No.7167568

>>7167534
gay

>> No.7167813

>>7165940
"Jaime, pull up that Did You Know Gaming about how Yamauchi was a oni."

>> No.7167890

>>7166239
I like it.

>> No.7167901

>>7167150
>It will only stop being a gimmick once a proper tactile control interface becomes a reality
elaborate? I'm intrigued.

>> No.7167969

I read up on Hiroshi Yamauchi and Gunpei Yokoi on wikipedia and can't even describe how their personal life stories and Nintendo's history made me feel.

Those men were absolute visionaries and ready to take risks. I think Hiroshi Yamauchi could've made any kind of business successful in his era, from a food stand to an oil company, he was a natural born enterpreneur. But I can't help but feel that he wasn't above doing shady things to get ahead, he just seemed like that type who stops at nothing for success.

Yokoi was responsible for a great part of Nintendo's success in establishing itself as a major video game company, and it's clear that he was a very dedicated man. Yamauchi having anything to do with his departure from Nintendo or his death would be a very sad example of extreme ungratefulness. But I'm aware that the corporate world is brutal, not to mention that I'm talking about people from a culture where, not so long in the past, it was a perfectly normal thing for authority figures to order their subordinates to disembowel themselves for having made their superiors embarrassed, suspicious or angry.

>> No.7168609

>>7165940
Maybe the reason why it stands out is that it happened once and that was all that was needed for the rest of the industry to get the message.

>> No.7169747

>>7167568
Why?

>> No.7170163

>>7165993
Imagine defending a shit virtual reality console from the 90’s.

>> No.7170342

>>7166785
Probably good that Nintendo is considered to be one of the "cleanest" companies in Japan, then.
Now SEGA, THAT'S a Yakuza company...

>> No.7170396

So the Yakuza planned for Yokoi's driver to speed up and hit the back of a truck, and then when stopped they planned for Yokoi to walk out of the car to stretch his legs and then get hit by a guy from the tourism industry.
A lot of ifs that a single variable would fuck up. What if Yokoi stayed in the car and let his driver handle the insurance exchange? The assassination would be ruined.

Just like the Princess Diana conspiracies, people thinking that some shadow organization meticulously planned out every angle and took friction into account. Not realizing that car accidents are simply the biggest killer in first world countries, it's not surprising that rich and famous people also die in car accidents.

>> No.7170708

>>7165940
> help
yokoi's company and bandai had a partnership, retard.
> The conspiracy theory doesn't add up for me.
this board is getting more fucking retarded as the months and years go by.

>> No.7170756

>>7170708
Yeah
How could anyone be so stupid to even give that YouTuber bullshit a second glance

>> No.7170765

>>7170708
>>7170756
you people are 10x more annoying than any /x/ schizo posters who happen to start an amusing thread like this one. fuck off if you're just going to doompost

>> No.7170770

>>7165969
it's funny how big of a presence the virtual boy still has despite utterly failing
it's featured heavily in luigi's mansion 3, stuff like that

>> No.7170771

>>7170765
>NOOO NOT THE HECKIN STUPID BULLSHIT THAT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE AND HAS BEEN PLAYED TO DEATH THE LAST 10 YEARS
Come up with something fun and interesting and I'll gladly not doompost
Maybe samurai has every type of cancer, or miyamoto is functionally retarded and everyone else pretends he's actually a real game dev

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>>7165969
>>7165993
Its more that:
3D glasses got another resurgant, before that it was in the 70s for a short period due some projector tech improvements
Which means its time for a research project to see how far Tech had gotten along
So: Do a project to see if its viable
But: Can't back out because research project had too much put into it. Most likely external devkit forced the project to commit to a launch
And so it fails because despite the nifty bits, the headset is still a problem that can't be solved with the tech of the early 90s.

>> No.7170945

>makes one project that fails, after numerous successful ones
>instantly kicked out from the company you saved from collapse years before

It's just sad, that must have been so painful to him.

I'll never buy this "employee loyalty" bullshit.