NO REST FOR THE LIVING

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NO REST FOR THE LIVING Anonymous Thu Dec 10 00:06:45 2020 No.7160328 [Reply] [Original]

DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>7156167

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE/HERETIC/HEXEN/ETC
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other 90s FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Thief, Deus Ex)
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz
-Album of infographics with setup information and user-made content recommendations

Same thing, but in video format:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ietb4JwaaXA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGj4gXyCzg0

IWADs and more (>6 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake Trilogy (2020-11): https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhU
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Doom, Quake, Douk, Blood, and more)
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA
More /vr/ shooters
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ppJLNvQEPfP4FsOCQBak1TMvPUIswCac
Doom Shovelware
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Xy-YDWytlEa2CS9rit-PUgcieh4MrGzR
Fileplanet archives
https://www.quaddicted.com/files/mirrors/ftp.planetquake.com/
Doom RPG series
https://mega.nz/#!Y7AjEawA!Ta2RQuOC235v0wQoLtVR7HJoN7bsiawkujSlq8A1Da4
4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games (pre-configured):
https://mega.nz/folder/CldGAahb#yn_8LkRHraywPgKJMp5pqA

== INFO/LINKS ==

OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/yzwgaLp7

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
https://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 00:07:52 2020 No.7160335
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=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
500ml of /vr/
BETA: https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/7041037/#7043379
https://discord.gg/F968y8Wj4x

=== NEWS ===
[12-09] DBP19: A Doomer Boards Christmas Carol
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/themes/xmas/dbp19xmas2

[12-09] Impie's Straydog is back up after being banned for wrongthink
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za3KjI-szNs
http://www.mediafire.com/file/kld3fvdbm8cr0if/straydogtest.pk3/file

[12-09] KK/Altair uploaded new episode about his Doom "port" for Amiga
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86nhn7KooQ8 [Open]

[12-07] More stuff added to Macenwolf
https://www.moddb.com/mods/macenwolf/news/macenwolf-108-new-york-and-some-damp-prizon

[12-06] POOM a Doom "port" made for Pico8 engine
https://twitter.com/FSouchu/status/1335501419424702465
https://freds72.itch.io/poom

[12-05] Impressive Sega Genesis port of Doom by Krikzz using the Mega EverDrive PRO
https://github.com/krikzz/doom-68k

[12-05] Quake mod Copper updated.
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/copper_v1_15.html

[12-05] Scumhead released Lycanthorn II
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMbNxYOyPj8 [Open]

[12-03] Gothic Library DX for Cryptic Passage, restored based on beta
http://www.blood.freeminded.de/index.php?section=maps&id=624

[12-03] Sandy does a tour of MAP16 of Doom2 but in real life
https://youtu.be/g0DVwhy3R3k [Open]

[12-03] Zero Master does Doom II MAP18 in 12 seconds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDaakoJ15bc [Open]

[11-30] Hellevator public beta (Boom speedmapping)
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/117072

[11-30] DSDA-Doom 0.7.0 (PRBoom+ fork with extra tools)
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/118074

[11-29] FutureShock32 updated (UI, server browser)
fb.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=2701770990088559&id=1556221081310228

[11-29] Updated: Champions to 2.7, Critical Shots to 1.6
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=60456
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=68078

=== PREVIOUS ===
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>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 00:11:02 2020 No.7160343 can we stop these threads, just make a thread about your topic or like make a discord or something.... all these generals are are just politics and dumb drama instead of calling someone a faggot and ignoring...

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 00:11:30 2020 No.7160345 >>7160343 Faggot.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 00:11:44 2020 No.7160347 >>7160343 Blow it out your ass

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 00:12:21 2020 No.7160350 >>7160343 Once again, we have been doing these since 2013. Eat shit you fucking retard.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 00:13:13 2020 No.7160353 >>7160350 so? call me a zoomer but why is there such care for these threads when its just shit flinging and shilling your wads occasionally

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 00:14:52 2020 No.7160358 >>7160353 >calling someone a faggot and ignoring... hue hue hue

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 00:15:37 2020 No.7160359 >>7160358 watch as this thread will devolve into schizos yelling about alf and half life and other inane shit

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 00:17:05 2020 No.7160361

>>7160326
Basically judge's choice. It's really just a group of dudes who just talk out what they liked and think should win one, there's the "Cacorward Mentionation Thread", where members of Doomworld are open to suggest works worthy of consideration (you're not allowed to say yourself). That's why I think people shouldn't really take them too seriously, because they're only as much as an authority as you recognize them as.

I will admit however, I do have some respect for some of the people usually involved, so the idea of being presented an imaginary golden Cacodemon statue as an award for my work does give me a few sparks of excitement. Mainly because I would really like an actual golden Cacodemon statue.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 00:18:42 2020 No.7160364 >>7160353 Because it's fun, why don't you fucking cry about it queer?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 00:20:00 2020 No.7160370 >>7160343 >>7160353 Faggot

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 00:23:47 2020 No.7160380 >still responding to obvious bait >>7160361 Honestly, I wish the cacowards had a little more community involvement in them. Maybe a section dedicated to what the community thought was the best wad of the year.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 00:24:00 2020 No.7160382 >>7160353 go to bed >>7160342 Ah, jw how much of the decision making was public

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 00:28:03 2020 No.7160392 File: 11 KB, 320x200, Ken's_Labyrinth-title.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just beat Ken's Labyrinth for the first time. It's kind of shit but impressive for a kid.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 00:28:08 2020 No.7160394

>>7160382
>Ah, jw how much of the decision making was public
There's a public thread on doomworld where you can mention projects you think are deserving of an award. Couldn't tell you how much influence they actually have on the people who write for the awards though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 00:30:08 2020 No.7160398 >>7160361 Yeah the "year in review" concept is great, its probably quite nice to have some recognition for your work. >an actual golden Cacodemon statue that would be pretty slick

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 00:30:12 2020 No.7160401 >>7160392 I played through it one long summer. I agree. Having maps in each level was kinda cool though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 00:33:48 2020 No.7160410 File: 29 KB, 417x107, 1367796247916.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7160343

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 00:44:02 2020 No.7160435 File: 53 KB, 384x288, sandy-grin.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7160392 >>7160410 >Ken's Labyrinth was reviewed in 1993 in Dragon #199 by Sandy Petersen in the "Eye of the Monitor" column. Petersen gave the game 2 out of 5 stars.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 00:47:32 2020 No.7160441 >>7160380 I think that could be good, the judge's opinions weighed against the public's opinions. >>7160398 Romero got a physical one.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 00:53:47 2020 No.7160448 >>7160435 He was still writing for them while working at iD, Isle Of The Dead released not shortly after Doom and he trashed it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 00:55:14 2020 No.7160451 File: 305 KB, 692x970, Sandy Petersen Ken's Labyrinth review, Dragon 199.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7160435 Pic related, it's Sandy's review of Ken's Labyrinth for Dragon magazine in 1993

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 00:59:37 2020 No.7160467 File: 153 KB, 640x480, KEN1-5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7160451 >The monstrous spiders are ludicrous.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 01:05:04 2020 No.7160485 >Mordeth award didnt get given to a wad >Instead its for a long overdue rule change to a speedrunning category that removes any ambiguity the original and compet-n definitions suffered from.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 01:12:27 2020 No.7160501 File: 15 KB, 480x360, CHAIRMAN.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >REKKR? More like SHITTR, is it even an unofficially canonical fifth episode to DOOM bro? I don't fucking think so, drink my knob.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 01:12:29 2020 No.7160502

Why the fuck is TNT such a god damn shit addon? Who the fuck was the faggot that made it?
>hurr let's make it literally impossible to play on default difficulty
>hurr let's shove like 50 imps around a corner
>hurr let's add another like 10 revenents around the next corner, because fuck you
>lmao health packs? What are those?
>what if, like, you open a door and get completely surrounded by 10 pinkies who want to butt rape you
>dude lmao who gives a fuck about ammo bro just run bro
God this is such bullshit. I end up having to cheat ever round by giving myself all ammo and weapons, and do you what happens? By the end of the level, I have next to no god damn ammo left, and almost always no max health. By the time I get a little bit ways into the next level I already run out of ammo and health. Did anyone even fucking playtest this shit?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 01:15:10 2020 No.7160508 File: 248 KB, 500x421, b3f.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7160502 Dilate Civvie you crippled fag then git gud

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 01:17:46 2020 No.7160515

>>7160508
Having to gimp the difficulty setting because you keep become spit roasted by fucking imps of all enemies and having to restart the level 50 fucking times is not good design. Being forced to cheat to even get ahead is even worse. You're only option is to save scum like hell, because starting the level over after dying is like being stabbed in the nuts; this is objectively the worst.
Shit addon, shit design, shit gameplay.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 01:21:31 2020 No.7160523 >>7160502 How do you feel it compares to Plutonia pistol starts?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 01:23:47 2020 No.7160528 >>7160502 >>7160515 >tnt >hard I mean, it's harder to beat than Doom 2 itself, I guess. But still, Plutonia is a lot harder than TNT, and most mapsets nowadays are harder than both.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 01:28:00 2020 No.7160537 >>7160523 It's a hell of a lot better because it doesn't have a fetish for GOTHCA! moments, or packing 50 imps into an area. There's enough health and ammo around that it's not an issue.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 01:28:23 2020 No.7160539 >>7160501 >SHITRR >you're a plumber returning to his company office to find all his coworkers murdered by demons >you must kill all the demons >you're armed with a magical pipewrench and plunger

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 01:29:32 2020 No.7160541 >>7160515 >spitroasted by imps ????? Is this bait because usually everyone complains about plutonia being hard and tnt being uninspired, so this time we're switching it up?

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 01:29:58 2020 No.7160542 [DELETED]

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>he plays half-life and thinks rushing everything and using explosives matters when you can just step behind any geometry or entity and have the AI crash and have a 4 second opening to kill any opponent in the game because HL1 is a piece of shit that even so much as switching weapons causes the AI to break
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNy42Wd9gfI

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 01:30:19 2020 No.7160543 >>7160537 This would be the first I've heard of ammo issues with TNT so I'm curious how it'll play after I'm done with Plutonia.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 01:31:32 2020 No.7160550 >>7160539 Based, someone should make it

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 01:32:17 2020 No.7160553 File: 82 KB, 616x353, capsule_616x353.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why does Half-Life make you seethe so much, doomcels?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 01:33:23 2020 No.7160559 File: 371 KB, 812x834, 34328.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7160359 they'll never learn

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 01:35:28 2020 No.7160569

>>7160553
I have no idea, probably because it actually took the FPS genre out of the "hunt X key" "find exit" mazes it had been suck in since inception, Quake 2 doesn't count because that was going to be something else and basically Id halfheartedly copying HL.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 01:38:55 2020 No.7160579 File: 38 KB, 600x404, 1597333995605.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7160569 What about Unreal?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 01:40:08 2020 No.7160582 >>7160579 Unreal is highly overrated and Tim Sweeney is a known pedophile.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 01:40:12 2020 No.7160584 >>7160553 You've been trying to turn Doom and Half Life fans against each other for close to a year straight now without much in the way of results. Don't you think it's time to stop?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 01:41:08 2020 No.7160587 >>7160579 Is that Adrian with the really long hair?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 01:44:15 2020 No.7160593 I have literally never played Half-Life and I never will.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 01:45:10 2020 No.7160596 >>7160582 >Tim Sweeney is a known pedophile Source or stop being a cunt. Also Unreal is great.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 01:45:35 2020 No.7160601
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>>7160582
I'd agree, but I still acknowledge how it also was taking FPS games way from "get the key and exit mazes", introducing alt-fires, varied enemies that did more than just run at you, introduce player dodging, etc. all while coming out a few months before HL.
>>7160587
I think that's Tom Hall on the right.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 01:47:17 2020 No.7160604 >>7160582 You can't just randomly call people pedophiles.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 01:50:37 2020 No.7160614
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Damn, I was having a fun time with that death card mod that was mentioned a few threads ago, and then I went into a teleporter and didnt trigger the linedef that lowers the floor so I got stuck, again. Not the first time this happened either, so I just had to end my run. It's a fun mod, shame it didn't get more popular.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 01:54:20 2020 No.7160623 File: 87 KB, 741x499, 4ps9em.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7160596

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 01:55:22 2020 No.7160626 >>7160604 It isn't random.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 01:58:54 2020 No.7160637 File: 67 KB, 570x568, fgt.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7160553

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 02:02:26 2020 No.7160647 >>7160637 Why do people like Tom Hall so much? He was a whiney hyper moody autist and Doom was better off with him booted from id.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 02:05:02 2020 No.7160650 >>7160623 >>7160626 kys basedronybro faggot

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 02:06:09 2020 No.7160654 File: 3.82 MB, 220x165, 1606957731460.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7160647 What? He made based Rise of the Triad and Anachronox not to mention the fucking KEEN trilogy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 02:07:15 2020 No.7160660 >>7160650 Keep posting gibberish like that and your social credit score in Beijing is going to go down, Tim.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 02:08:17 2020 No.7160663 >>7160654 *KEEN series

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 02:09:29 2020 No.7160667 >>7160654 >He made based Rise of the Triad Uh >Anachronox Uhh >not to mention the fucking KEEN trilogy. Alright

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 02:10:03 2020 No.7160669 >>7160667 Come on, you know they're based

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 02:12:57 2020 No.7160673 >>7160669 You're being nice so I'll give them another shot. I still think he's a cringey autist though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 02:14:54 2020 No.7160675 File: 20 KB, 212x247, Tom_Hall_(cropped).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7160673 This look like the face of a cringey autist to you? Don't answer that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 02:15:32 2020 No.7160676 >>7160667 >not liking ROTT what's wrong with it?

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 02:16:09 2020 No.7160678

>>7160596
Unreal feels...I don't know, like nothing special. When playing it I didn't feel particularly immersed in anything, or really care about shit. You have to remember it was like Quake 1, in that it's a tech demo more or less with gameplay bolted onto it. I'm sure if I played them back when they were released I'd be absolutely blown away by them. But looking back at them retrospectively, there's nothing terribly special about them that separates them from other games from the same period a lot when looking at art direction and gameplay.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 02:20:26 2020 No.7160683 >>7160678 Yeah, it's hard to put into words but it feels somehow lifeless to me, sterile. Perhaps even SOULLESS.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 02:34:31 2020 No.7160714 I think it's cool to be in these threads during the cacowards, for a change.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 02:40:03 2020 No.7160725 File: 812 KB, 1543x2581, g5lRZ8J.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anything like this but for Blood or Shadow Warrior?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 02:42:53 2020 No.7160730 >tfw you work your ass off this year and they don't give you "most promising newcomer award" I don't think they even have it anymore. Why even bother living.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 02:47:39 2020 No.7160740 >>7160730 If you're doing it for the acknowledgement, then you're doing it for the wrong reasons.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 02:49:19 2020 No.7160746 >>7160730 Being recognized is nice. Doing shit to be recognized is dumb.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 02:52:29 2020 No.7160753 >>7160725 Theres nowhere near as much stuff made for them

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 02:53:33 2020 No.7160758 >>7160730 >working your ass off to be praised by 3.5 retards

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 02:54:10 2020 No.7160760 File: 6 KB, 122x132, 1598797146903.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7160730 kegan btfo

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 02:56:19 2020 No.7160765
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>>7160760
That's not me, dumbass. I got a Cacoward for GMOTA the other year but I'm not in it for the acknowledgment, I'm in it to make good shit and get better at making stuff.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 03:05:15 2020 No.7160781 File: 333 KB, 1500x2356, 1500px-CacowardPhysical.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7160765 Where do you keep it? Is it displayed?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 03:06:18 2020 No.7160787 File: 53 KB, 730x591, u did it.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7160781 Anon, only Romero got a physical one. The Golden Boner however, I keep in my heart.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 03:07:00 2020 No.7160790 >>7160787 you're a good lad

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 03:07:11 2020 No.7160791 >>7160765 Kegan: Is Half-Life cringe or shit?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 03:07:51 2020 No.7160793 >thread's keganposting for the next 2 hours

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 03:10:25 2020 No.7160798 File: 128 KB, 778x734, 1597813757731.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7160765 honestly think combine arms is gonna get a caco next year just because of how creative the link set is lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 03:13:21 2020 No.7160810 >>7160793 Go start a fucking Discord you crybaby

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 03:14:12 2020 No.7160812 File: 86 KB, 500x393, a fair price.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] make me fgt

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 03:16:24 2020 No.7160817 File: 75 KB, 500x887, Blazkowicz-Wolfenstein-3D.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7160812 ANY LAST WORDS? IM GETTIN PSYCHED!

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 03:22:42 2020 No.7160825 File: 11 KB, 374x299, CannedMeatIsOnTheMenuBoys.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7160765 gimme that good shit

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 03:26:51 2020 No.7160832 File: 107 KB, 320x240, 320px-Aliens_TC_title.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What is the best Doom TC of all time?

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 03:34:46 2020 No.7160850
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>>7160825
Well I just put in some extra pieces flying out when you break the mace, you probably saw the webm earlier with sound.
Gonna be working on the crate weapons next, making them suck less, cus most of them suck. After that, gonna refine the Blastmaster set, starting with the ice beam.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 03:34:56 2020 No.7160852 The only fan community worse than the Serious Sam fandom is the Cringe-Life fanbase.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 03:36:11 2020 No.7160859 >>7160850 all those extra particles actually do make this look quite a bit cooler I think

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 03:38:46 2020 No.7160862 File: 818 KB, 602x928, tim sweeney 1595017319312.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7160582 Just because children are attracted to Tim doesn't mean Tim is attracted to children

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 03:44:20 2020 No.7160868 >>7160862 Fucking hell anon, I just ate. Get that crap outta here.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 03:48:37 2020 No.7160876
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What Doom mods do you use? I don’t mean total conversions, but just gameplay and aesthetic mods for Doom I & II. I like bright maps plus, sprite shadow, nash gore (with cblood), sprite fixing project, and pekristan’s smooth weapon animations.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 03:49:54 2020 No.7160882 File: 643 KB, 1193x2020, psexh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7160850 You're a really good artist. What do you think of the sprites in Powerslave?

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 03:53:11 2020 No.7160886

>>7160882
I'm not that good, a lot of my sprites are just draw-overs of models. The pistol I did from scratch though. The trick is persistence and to have people who know what the fuck they're doing to be there to give you advice.
Powerslave in general is fucking neat, I like a lot about it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 03:54:05 2020 No.7160889 >>7160832 For me, it's blue dickgirl

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 03:55:51 2020 No.7160893 >>7160876 What happens when one or more of those mods isn't compatible with a wad you're playing, do you just deal with it or skip?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 03:57:30 2020 No.7160901 >>7160451 >monsters can get on top of you >manages to turn that into a flaw stay mad that you couldn't have that feature in Doom Sandy

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 03:58:24 2020 No.7160905 File: 381 KB, 1280x720, 19235_1558059298.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7160862 你好!我的名字叫蒂姆·斯威尼(TIM SWEENEY),我爱中国共产党。习近平是一个伟大的人,我希望将来与我的中国共产党朋友们进行更多的合作!

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 03:59:00 2020 No.7160907 >>7160893 Haven’t had that happen. Just playing the base games plus Final DOOM. I don’t see why these particular mods wouldn’t work with community wads though so long as they don’t have new monsters and weapons.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 03:59:32 2020 No.7160909 >>7160901 This review was written shortly before he started working at iD (so before Doom)

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 04:02:46 2020 No.7160917 Sprite autist, are you here? There waa a guy who gave really interesting break downs of sprite art a couple of threads ago. I would like to see your opinions on these >>7160882

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 04:06:45 2020 No.7160929
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>check Cacowards 2020
>only thing that doesn't look like pretentious faggot shit is Gods&Guardians
>click on link, goes to forum page rather than direct download link
>download on that forum OP: link is dead
>browse thread
>"Here is updated version!"
>link is also dead

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 04:08:01 2020 No.7160932 >>7160730 You can get recognized by us.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 04:08:30 2020 No.7160934
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Was this a barren year or something? Most of this stuff wouldn't get a sidebar mention in any other year. I mean
>Antaresian Reliquary
Compilation of already released random maps from like 2017
>Rowdy Rudy 2
Ok, but he's been making stuff exactly like that for like decades, this can't be that much better
>Syringe - @Pavera, @Tarnsman, @Marcaek, @Xaser
Doominati awarding themselves again, cringe
>obligatory GZDOOM maps with pentagrams in total darkness
yawn and cringe
>Faithless Trilogy
I mean, ok, but is there a Heretic quota or something? Jimmy's ...less megawads for Doom were never mentioned anywhere.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 04:09:28 2020 No.7160937 >>7160929 also, googling leads to be a v0.9 of the wad on wadarchieve even though there is supposed to be a v1.1 One fucking job

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 04:09:32 2020 No.7160939 File: 791 KB, 300x168, 1593721728166.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7160934 >Doominati

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 04:20:56 2020 No.7160964 >>7160934 I saw a lot of more original flavor on Doomworld. I haven't quite tracked what made it to idgames. Some of it was pretty cool. >>7160932 I did and I was mostly complaining in jest.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 04:24:22 2020 No.7160974 >>7160730 >I don't think they even have it anymore You mean the award? It's there, in Special Features. Go look.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 04:27:21 2020 No.7160980 >>7160974 1. I am fucking blind 2. Oh neat Zolgia got mentioned

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 04:28:17 2020 No.7160982 >>7160817 Send a chaingunner to kill a chaingunner.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 04:32:56 2020 No.7160990 File: 323 KB, 960x540, Screenshot_Doom_20201204_003513.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7160876 On just regular autoload, I've got spritefixes, brightmaps, Tilt++, and Beamflashlight. Anything else will depend on what I'm playing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 04:34:43 2020 No.7160992 File: 342 KB, 650x1248, 1606422112596(1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7160982 Damn right

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 04:37:45 2020 No.7160996 first time playing hexen 2 should I go with UHexen or Hammer of Thyrion?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 04:44:15 2020 No.7161000 >>7160929 Here is the working link - https://www.dropbox.com/s/ou492gew21vckna/GnG.zip?dl=0

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 04:46:48 2020 No.7161001 >>7160934 >Doominati awarding themselves again, cringe Pretty sure none of the authors of Syringe are in the cacoward committee

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 04:49:58 2020 No.7161004 >>7160934 You forgot this >lilth2.pk3 It was bad enough seeing the first one get a cacoward. But a fucking sequel? It's pretty much clear that the cacowards are a joke set up to mock people with taste like me.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 04:52:46 2020 No.7161005

>>7160917
>Sprite autist
lmao

I haven't really given Powerslave any in depth examination (though I have stolen things out of it over the years), but I could look a bit at those you posted. I have no real idea if they used rendered 3D models or digitized physical models for doing the monsters in the game, but I think I'll say that they've got to be physical, because the lighting is way too convincing for a 1997 era PC game developer to just make on their work stations, Blizzard wasn't getting shit down THIS well in their pre-rendered cinematics for Starcraft in 1998, and that was some truly top shelf stuff that still looks pretty damn good.

That's an argument in favor of digitizing physical models (and actors) for your graphics, if you can get a capture stage put together with good lighting, and you've got some decent costume maker and prop room people or agencies available to you, you can use that to make some very good visuals. There's a certain 'dated' look you'll get, people will compare it to Mortal Kombat and stuff (or Rise Of The Triad, if they actually happen to know it), but that also makes for a really delightful B-movie aesthetic which I think is just incredibly charming. On the topic of ROTT and MK, they're also excellent examples of how, just because you've got these realistic digitized graphics, doesn't mean that you can't make your game completely unrealistic and nuts.

There's something about the big bug monsters there which makes them feel oddly convincing, like, their chitinous exoskeleton appearance looks matted, like it's dry and they're maybe covered with dust from all those desert sand dunes. That cyclops thing there, or, err, quadclops(???) has a great and crude grin that I like.

The gore looks pretty nice there, very detailed, and I like the pronounced glow from attacks and stuff on these guys, that last part is a detail you don't want to undersell.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 04:55:11 2020 No.7161009 >>7161005 >>7160882 I know for a fact that some of these like Bastat are digitzed actors, in fact I think Bastat was actually a man. The anubis zombie most likely is too. The rest I'm not sure how they were made.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 04:55:28 2020 No.7161010

>>7160992
I think that's probably my favorite piece of art of old Wolfenstein 3D ever. I love the color, and the scale, and the fact that it really looks pretty close in just design to the actual game. There's some liberties with scale and detailing, but overall it has a great result.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 04:56:48 2020 No.7161013 >>7161009 I figured that part. >bastat >man What, the one with the big tittes? That's some top notch prosthetics work.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 04:58:05 2020 No.7161015 >>7160934 What 2020 wads would you have awarded?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 05:00:50 2020 No.7161023 File: 124 KB, 800x533, bossfight.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7161010 It looks like an iconic moment frozen in time, I love it. Have you seen the full piece?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 05:01:57 2020 No.7161025 File: 705 KB, 2007x1304, 1606422112596.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7161023 Ah shit wrong one. That one is good too though, same artist.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 05:02:39 2020 No.7161026
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>>7160832
Only one I play is Doom 4 Vanilla and I like it, especially with Crispy Doom. It also runs really easily in DOSBox using MBF 2.04. Try it with Sigil, it's video-game-heaven tier

>>7160876
I used to use Bolognese gore mod, Tilt++, Weapon Sway, Brightmaps Plus, Sprite Fix, Smooth Weapons Enhanced, PerK's Hi-Res SFX (or Sound Caulking), Sprite Shadow, Motion Blur, Bloom Boost, and Fullscreen HUD which keeps the big default HUD but removes the dead space.

These days, I use Vanilla Doom Smooth Weapons, Doom Sprite Fix, and PerK's Hi-Res SFX when I play in GLBoom. I use the same mods, minus the hi-res sfx, whenever I play Crispy Doom or Woof because I feel the hi-res sounds clash with the aesthetic.

Note that Doom Sprite Fix has an optional dehacked file that fixes a few more things like making the zombie and cyberdemon firing frames bright. You can use this additional dehacked file with vanilla smooth weapons safely in Crispy Doom, but for some reason, when you combine d2dehfix.deh with vsmooth.wad inside of PrBoom then you get buggy behavior so you can't do that.

Because Valiant has custom enemies and monsters, you cannot use vanilla smooth weapons nor doom sprite fix with it, but when I play it in GLBoom, I load perk's hi-res sfx before valiant so that I get the hi-res sfx without overriding valiant's custom sounds. And whether I play in GLBoom or Woof, I still use the sprite fix dehacked file to make zombies and cyberdemons full-bright when they fire

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 05:04:24 2020 No.7161029 >>7161023 >>7161025 I've seen the other ones too. I kind of like how stupidly huge the Plasmarifle is in the E3M8 one. Hadn't seen those other three though, they're pretty rad.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 05:06:56 2020 No.7161040
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>>7160876
When I play gameplay mods, I just play with it and maybe a monster pack. That's it.
Now with Hideous Destructor on the other hand, I stack shit up to make a custom setup.
That brass mod is something a friend made for my own sake to make the brass casings in HD fucking huge and a distinct color so I can be a brass goblin easier.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 05:10:22 2020 No.7161046

>>7160647

He put alot of the soul into doom, alot of what people today consider "doom" he put in the game. Like early design documents for doom had all the enemies be demonic marines demons, Tom pushed for it so that there would be non-bipedal enemies like the caco, lost soul, and mastermind. Same with levels, Carmack just wanted simple boxy levels for doom, Tom and Romero fought him to allow the engine for more realistic (for 1993) levels. Even alot of his idea that never were in doom 1-2 where put in doom 2016 and eternal, so to say "doom is better off without him is completely false.
Outside of doom he made Keen and Anachronox which are amazing games that still hold up today. RoTT might be less than amazing, came out too late and at a wrong time, but regardless that game had so much soul compared to other games around that time.

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>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 05:16:25 2020 No.7161054 >>7161051 I understand why the sprite compression at long distances was necessary in olden times, but these days I like the crisper look things have now.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 05:22:21 2020 No.7161061 >>7161054 I prefer Woof because it "feels more like Doom," but I don't deny that GLBoom looks great. I play the fuck out of both, one unsung advantage of pistol starts.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 05:26:56 2020 No.7161069

>>7161046
>Carmack just wanted simple boxy levels for doom, Tom and Romero fought him to allow the engine for more realistic (for 1993) levels.
That's not entirely accurate. It had been suggested to Tom (by either Romero or Carmack, I forget which), to go look at some photos of military bases and use those as reference for making levels, which Tom did, and he did some levels like that. Romero would look at those levels, and he concluded that they weren't really that exciting, that they looked not different enough from Wolfenstein 3D, he thought that they should do much more weird and abstract looking levels which could appropriately show off this impressive new technology which Carmack was developing (something that Carmack had basically asked them all to do).

So Romero put a lot of hard work into some new levels with a design direction he thought would be better, which would also use all the non-orthogonal walls, height variation, and light variation, as well as various effects with the lighting and sectors. When he showed that off to everyone, Carmack was really impressed by what Romero had been doing with his engine, he loved it, and he agreed with him that this was a far better design direction than striving for more realistic looking military bases.

Tom's levels would be the most realistic of them all at first, because that's what he had been asked to do, but they weren't realistic in a very good sense, they were pretty barren and unexciting. However, by the time Tom had left, and Sandy had come on board, Romero and Sandy would take a bunch of Tom's rough drafts and use their sort of realistic layout to build something much more interesting, and in my opinion it results in some of the best levels in the original game, juxtaposing that misaimed pseudo-realism with the much more abstract and fantastical, it's a very nice contrast.

I agree with you though that there's certainly not an insignificant amount of Tom's ideas and input in Doom, even today.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 05:29:26 2020 No.7161074 >Doomer Boards didn't even got a single mention >Manrisa got Cacoward

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 05:32:52 2020 No.7161080 What are your picks for best wads this years (Ultra-Violence: Not 2048 units)

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 05:33:31 2020 No.7161082 >>7161074 >tranny doominati >ever going to mention /vr/ by name come on anon. If you want a trophy make your own award show with blackjack and hookers

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 05:33:54 2020 No.7161083
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>>7161074
For what it's worth, I thought DBP20 was better than Syringe, and I UV-Maxed them both. I didn't play any of the other mentions though, except 1-2 levels of Antaresian Reliquary, which I thought looked very good

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 05:35:57 2020 No.7161087 File: 3 KB, 215x169, 1595521695493.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7161080 I'm surprised that Akeldama wasn't mentioned in the cacowards.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 05:40:59 2020 No.7161096
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>>7161069
Notably, Romero would actually take this 'too far' at first, before Doom's engine had a particularly good optimization scheme, he made this geometry, which caused the renderer to go ape. Romero's levels were too advanced for this advanced new technology, and a frustrated Carmack (who had to admit that this wasn't cutting it), had to figure something out.

Hitting a local college library, he would eventually find references to Binary Space Partitioning, an old concept which had been used in 3D modeling in the past, but never for a commercial real time 3D game. Carmack thought, "Why not though?" and started working on how to construct that code for Doom, and the result would make the engine cleaner and faster than ever, cleaner and faster than any software 3D to ever exist before, now they could take the levels even further than ever before, all because Romero carelessly pushed the envelope.
Sure, you had to pre-bake a BSP tree to pack with your level, which could take a bit of time (especially as you work on and alter your level over and over), but the performance gain was absolutely stellar.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 05:41:02 2020 No.7161097 >>7161082 Retard.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 05:42:37 2020 No.7161107 >>7161080 Uh, what significant things came out this year? I've been so busy with just modding and mapping that I haven't really kept up with recent releases, my freshest Doom experience in 2020 was Doom 64.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 05:43:50 2020 No.7161109 Cacowards? More like Caca-awards.

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>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 05:45:33 2020 No.7161113 >>7161109 What a shitload of fuck.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 05:48:15 2020 No.7161118 File: 199 KB, 1331x1474, 9d8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7161109

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 05:48:52 2020 No.7161120 >>7161109 I don't get it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 05:50:40 2020 No.7161124 >>7161107 Same. All I know is what I made lol.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 05:51:28 2020 No.7161125 >>7161120 Caca as in cancan becuase the whole things just a big song and dance.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 05:52:33 2020 No.7161126 Why don't cacoward fags put out a video? Too inept?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 05:53:19 2020 No.7161127 File: 148 KB, 327x452, Ristar apologizes for being so silly.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7161125 Shit, I should have guess that

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 05:59:02 2020 No.7161137 File: 2.72 MB, 1920x1080, 1581116555200.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I miss you Turok dev. Its been a year since he last posted

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 06:04:16 2020 No.7161145 >>7161080 180 minutes pour vivre, Rowdy Rudy 2, all the DBP stuff, Akeldama

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 06:04:46 2020 No.7161146 >>7161074 Doomer boards wads aren't that good, IMO. They're generally decent, but the quality of the maps is very inconsistent.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 06:11:16 2020 No.7161151 >>7160502 It's not bad or hard at all, sure there are piece of shit maps like Metal, Habitat or everything Drake O'Brien made but overall it's still on par with the best of 90's megawads.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 06:22:08 2020 No.7161161 >>7161109 cacodookie awards

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 06:37:40 2020 No.7161174 >>7161137 Probably because Turdcock fucking sucks

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 06:37:51 2020 No.7161175 >>7160502 >impossible to play on default difficulty G i t u d

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 06:42:55 2020 No.7161180 are there any single player maps/mods for Quake 3? not bots, actual single player

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 06:43:06 2020 No.7161181 >>7161137 probably because dave oshry ate his project and is making him do it for money

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 06:44:52 2020 No.7161185 Shamblwards when?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 06:45:51 2020 No.7161186 Who is the most underrated 90s FPS protagonist? The Hero from Powerslave or The Cyborg from Marathon?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 06:46:52 2020 No.7161187 >>7161181 You mean El Oshcuro? He's based.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 06:51:09 2020 No.7161196 >>7161187 I'm not weighing in on whether he is or isn't based anon, just saying that if I were a betting man someone working on a revival fps project who disappeared most likely got brought on by him.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 06:56:18 2020 No.7161205 File: 175 KB, 335x335, alpha.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >bridgeburner taking grand slam at the cacowardens

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 06:57:31 2020 No.7161207 >>7161180 Not really. Q2 and Q3A engine games are as close as it gets, Jedi Knight 2, RTCW

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 06:57:41 2020 No.7161208 >>7161205 Wait, where?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 07:00:05 2020 No.7161212 File: 214 KB, 1280x720, maxresddaefault.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7161208 Denny's

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 07:03:05 2020 No.7161214 File: 469 KB, 914x784, bony mcfuckface.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7161212 Smartass. Still smiled though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 07:06:14 2020 No.7161218 >>7161180 Yes, Hunter's Moon. https://www.moddb.com/mods/hunters-moon

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 07:12:15 2020 No.7161227 >>7161026 >Bolognese I couldn't get that to work with the colour correct mod. Ya know, blue cacodemon blood.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 07:18:28 2020 No.7161234 >>7161218 That's not for Q3A though, that's for Doom

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 07:18:49 2020 No.7161236 Thy Flesh Consumed truly epitomizes atrocious map design from someone trying to imitate Romero. You can very clearly see the difference between a Romero-made hard map set like Sigil and something that was slapped together by a fanboy.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 07:19:58 2020 No.7161238

>>7161227
Which color correct mod? Bolognese used to come with an optional .pk3 that would change caco/baron blood color, but it doesn't work in the newest version for some reason and no longer comes with the mod. I still use an older unofficial fan-made version of Bolognese that corrects the arch-vile bug and still works with the color correct mod. That version of Bolognese is called bbgorenew.pk3, if you're interested, and the colored blood mod might not come with it, you might need that from an older version of Bolognese

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 07:20:31 2020 No.7161240 >>7161234 Give it a try, it's quite impressive. Closest you're gonna get besides playing with bots.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 07:33:31 2020 No.7161257 >>7161236 Are you calling American McGee a 'bozo' ?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 07:40:53 2020 No.7161264 >>7161257 He's a fucking fag with no talent. Alice and Bad Day are dogshit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 07:41:13 2020 No.7161268 >>7161185 Not enough people map for Quake. There are only about 1500~ maps for Quake according to quaddicted, some lost to the ether no doubt over the decades; the community is just happy when people release maps at all to be quite honest.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 07:43:19 2020 No.7161271 >>7161083 Struggle is a crown jewel to me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 07:44:57 2020 No.7161274 >>7161264 Don't forget the fact that he got a copyright strike on Youtube for uploading gameplay footage of American McGee's Alice.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 07:46:09 2020 No.7161278 >>7161264 Oy wtf is wrong with Alice?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 07:51:46 2020 No.7161289 >>7161238 Know how I can get older version?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 07:53:53 2020 No.7161292 >>7161268 Are you serious? There's quake maps released constantly. Im In some mapping discord and there's constantly some themed map pack or speed map event happening at any given time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 07:54:50 2020 No.7161295 >>7161292 >discord See what I mean?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 07:57:31 2020 No.7161297 >>7161295 It's where I get news of new maps. What's the problem?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 07:58:57 2020 No.7161302 >>7161297 There isn't going to be a shamblewards if idjits keep their shit confined to discords.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 08:04:56 2020 No.7161313

>>7161302
It's not confined to discord. Im saying that that's where im seeing new Quake content updates rather than some 20+ year old site that you're looking up.

Since October 20th it looks like there's been 40+ maps released for Quake. Including a Halloween jam, a RTX Quake 2 total conversion, a food themed 15 map pack, a dozen random releases, a 10 map new episode, weapons mods, music mods and an upcoming Christmas pack.

In like less than two months. Seems active enough to me to have their own little awards thing to be quite honest.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 08:16:05 2020 No.7161326 >>7161313 Not that anon but where are they if not discord. Most newsposts here link to quaddicted, and the Halloween Jam was linked in the newspost when it was a thing, but I haven't seen any of this "40+ maps" in any newspost.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 08:21:09 2020 No.7161334 >>7161289 Here you go. https://anonfiles com/d3m9A7xapd/bbgorenew_zip This website gets spam-filtered so I had to break the link; add the dot to dot-com.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 08:22:46 2020 No.7161339

>>7161313
>It's not confined to discord
I ain't seen shit about them man, and that's why there ain't gonna be no shamblwards until someone does as good a job as quaddicted cataloguing releases.

It's definitely possible though. The roadblock right now, which quaddicted is very open about, is the fact that users cannot submit maps themselves because that's giving them to the keys to the vault of fucking up the site. The host publicly asks for someone versed in website building to find a solution around this, but no dice. The pieces are in place, but nobody's making a move. I'm guilty as well.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 08:38:20 2020 No.7161362

The enemy roster in Hexen feels a little weird, visually. There's no difference between a projectile thrower and a melee exclusive one. Maybe if the fire imps had a different color like green to show they throw fireballs and Nitros having something else?
I'm not sold on the idea that you just have to dance around the enemies waiting to see what they'll do.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 08:47:50 2020 No.7161379 >>7161236 Two maps in Thy Flesh Consumed WERE made by Romero, though. And none of the maps from the other authors seemed like Romero worship to me, either.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 08:54:52 2020 No.7161391 File: 24 KB, 302x302, ut3r7p6t_400x400.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7161334 thx man

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 08:57:06 2020 No.7161393 >Akeldama only gets a small mention on the special page of this years cacowards Lame.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 08:58:21 2020 No.7161397
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>>7160328
Its sad to see the state of this fucking thread
Even Quake 2 and DOOM anniversaries were forgotten, even the cacoawards fuckery
https://www.doomworld.com/cacowards/2020/

Which begs me to wonder...
Did you asked for this /doom/? beecause years ago we would had kicked and raped those discord and leftypolniggers niggers out of here and forced them to kill themselves.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 09:07:05 2020 No.7161405 >>7161379 >And none of the maps from the other authors seemed like Romero worship to me no wonder they're shit

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 09:10:55 2020 No.7161410 >>7160343 nigger

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 09:11:31 2020 No.7161412 >>7161397 This whole site has essentially been a virtual toilet for partisanfags and zoomers since the election, it was really only a matter of time until it got to a slower tighter-knit place like /doom/.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 09:11:36 2020 No.7161413

>>7161397
Are you okay? Last thread and this thread have been nearly nothing but talking about the cacowards. Who forgot? And yeah, Quake II is not fondly remembered. That's not news.
>beecause years ago we would had kicked and raped those discord and leftypolniggers niggers out of here and forced them to kill themselves.
And the only thing you're going to do now is bitch. How the mighty have fallen, eh?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 09:17:13 2020 No.7161419 Is there any example of a good use of the Spider Mastermind? There isn't a single wad where I've experienced that they put the monster in good use. Not even Plutonia could make this useful.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 09:17:50 2020 No.7161421 >>7161405 >Maps are shit because they're trying to copy Romero >Maps are shit because they weren't trying to copy Romero So which is it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 09:18:28 2020 No.7161423 >>7161419 Not really. it's too big and cumbersome. You're better off using a horde of chaingunners. Or even zombiemen.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 09:18:32 2020 No.7161424 >>7161362 don't know why I get the two confused like a dumbass. Meant to say Heretic.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 09:20:02 2020 No.7161428

>>7161419
Whitemare and Whitemare 2 have pretty great uses for it i.e. sticking them on high up platforms and you have to navigate cover before ever reaching her, or sticking her on platforms you cannot reach just yet and you must abuse monster-infighting to make sure it doesn't kill you. Those Russians really had a keen understanding of Doom.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 09:20:05 2020 No.7161429 >>7161421 maps are shit just use oblige lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 09:31:26 2020 No.7161443 File: 84 KB, 327x327, 1451928674910.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7161421 NOT THE ROMERO

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 09:34:46 2020 No.7161451

>>7161412
just look at the level of this answer >>7161413
the kikes who took over id opened the gates of literal hell against the entire community due to the good ol fashioned "Digital Inclusion, we must accept trannies and zoomers who grew on 9gag, /int/ and facebook eceleb memes", romero's wife turned him into a faggot without a spine, carmack quit gamedev, tim destroyed id and quake ip with it.

and now i've reached to a point that im hating what this community became.
mostly because everyone here decided to give a pair of wings to the snakes sent to us, and now they are biting us in the neck.
What saddens me more is that Cripplechan died and took their /doom/ with it, and doomworld is now a piece of shit, and the snakes infiltrated themselves everywhere.

i simply wish that sooner or later, everyone here grows a pair of titanium balls and starts kicking those shits out, because /doom/'s future looks grim as the late Starcraft general at /vg/

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 09:36:42 2020 No.7161457 File: 112 KB, 840x831, tips-fedora.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7161397 >>7161451 Lead the revolution!

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 09:37:56 2020 No.7161459 >>7161424 Happens in Hexen too with the shield fuckers. Some shoot projectiles and some don't. I think it makes for good challenge. Keeps you on your toes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 09:40:53 2020 No.7161465 >>7161451 >Digital Inclusion, we must accept trannies and zoomers who grew on 9gag, /int/ and facebook eceleb memes You gleaned that from my post? My comment about you doing nothing but bitching really got to you I see.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 09:41:52 2020 No.7161467

You know how you just sidestep barons fireballs and they're not even a threat like even a little bit? Sidestep, sidestep, sidestep?

Well in Doom 64 I was sidestepping Baron #58295 and suddenly one fired to where I was GOING to be and I sidestepped into it. And I was like, hot damn he got me.

Why isn't this an actual thing added to the base AI of the doom enemies? It would make the games so much better and challenging.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 09:43:08 2020 No.7161469

>>7161419
Masterminds are rarely used because they're hard to use effectively
They're super large hitbox means you can only really use them in big open spaces. They even can get stuck in place just from other monsters being too close to them because of it, making for pathetic deaths when in-fighting.
They're attacks being hitscan also means using multiple of them isn't going to provide much of an extra challenge, as they'll very likely just in-fight with each other.
And it doesn't help that a couple other monsters provide a similar role, but are easier to use.
Chaingunners also provide the rapid-fire hitscan role, but are much more compact and much weaker, meaning you can use them in tight spaces just fine, and can be used in most combat situations.
Cyberdemons also provide the tanky boss monster role, but have a much more sensible hitbox allowing for their use in medium-sized spaces, a stronger attack and more health so that they aren't as likely to die pathetically from in-fighting, and they can't even in-fight themselves.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 09:43:13 2020 No.7161470 File: 1.91 MB, 3264x2448, cacodemon shitpost.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7161451 damn anon sorry to hear that the jews ruined talking about doom on 4chan for you You should start HRT about it

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 09:43:43 2020 No.7161471 >>7161467 Babel mod.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 09:44:49 2020 No.7161474 >>7161467 You should what Hideous Destructor does to Hell Knights, they're fucking assholes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 09:47:25 2020 No.7161482 >>7161467 Some people REALLY hate predictive AI. Honestly I think its fine as long as the projectile isn't too fast so you can avoid it after its been fired rather than have it be unavoidable.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 10:06:09 2020 No.7161508

>>7161467
Predictive aim will either make playing insanely hard if it's perfect and bullshit "permanent partial invis mode" unpredictable if it isn't perfect.

Not really a related game but as an example, if you've ever played Transcendence you'll know how basically every enemy you don't massively overpower has to be cheesed, because the AI controlled ships and autotargeting weapons have perfect predictive aim to the point doing anything except dodging and running away when you're being shot at is a death sentence.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 10:08:00 2020 No.7161510 >>7161467 Because that'd be throwing everything Doom stands for out of the window. Also the basic enemies in Powerslave DOS do that, and it doesn't always work great.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 10:08:38 2020 No.7161512 File: 94 KB, 748x1024, 1607608848687m.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ahem are you ready lads?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 10:12:02 2020 No.7161519 File: 240 KB, 1000x952, hey buddy I think you got the wrong door, the leather club's three sectors down.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7161512

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 10:13:40 2020 No.7161526 File: 79 KB, 900x1000, 1588661641869.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7161512 H-Doom guy confirmed?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 10:14:38 2020 No.7161529 >cant jump >cant look around with a mouse how is this shit game so popular?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 10:15:14 2020 No.7161531 File: 484 KB, 640x480, 1601925974059.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >REKKR? More like REKKT! Come on, monkey fuck! Who's your fucking daddy? Let's go!

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 10:15:35 2020 No.7161534 > check cacowards page > find out that slax is gone what when how why ???

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 10:16:49 2020 No.7161535 >>7160587 shawn green

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 10:16:56 2020 No.7161536 >>7160760 Kegan has a cacoward already.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 10:17:02 2020 No.7161538 File: 23 KB, 480x270, DSBRSSIT_FUCKYOU.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7161519

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 10:21:21 2020 No.7161543 >>7161529 You’ll really hate shmups if you can’t get into Doom so just play Quake.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 10:25:21 2020 No.7161548 >>7161534 He passed away in November. We're not sure exact details but the world's gonna be a sadder place without him.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 10:27:10 2020 No.7161549 >>7161529 You just can't look up and down with a mouse. Mouse turning is in the game.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 10:30:17 2020 No.7161554 >>7161174 >hl sucks >unreal sucks >turok sucks What do you like?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 10:40:17 2020 No.7161580 >>7161554 sloppy butts

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 10:47:49 2020 No.7161591 >>7161313 >some 20+ year old site that you're looking up. How is that any different from opening discord and going to a server. I guess homogeneous interface between communities. That's it.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 10:49:20 2020 No.7161596
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Is ZDL a good way to have one folder with Doom stuff inside and use it to load them and save different settings and saved games?
Now I make a new folder for each mod I want to play. I never used a launcher before.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 10:52:11 2020 No.7161604

>>7161554
Turok - not as impressive or entertaining as people say, very basik and too consolised. Gore in 2 is nice.

hl - good for oine playthrough, but not more, gunplay is uninspired

unreal - great atmosphere, but gameplay stretched too thin, would be much better if condensed (tighter encounters with bit more fragile and less annoying enemies, less slogging through the huge levels when nothing interesting happens and enviroment is similar to where you were before)

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 10:53:46 2020 No.7161608 >>7161596 Yes since you can save a configuration.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 11:00:42 2020 No.7161625 >>7160542 Shit bait Alf.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 11:03:08 2020 No.7161631 >>7160593 Your loss zoomie.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 11:03:38 2020 No.7161635 >>7161625 you still took it, fool.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 11:04:56 2020 No.7161639 >>7161596 It's nice, you can just organize your WADs however you like in your own folders and also save configs.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 11:05:18 2020 No.7161641 >>7160852 The Alf fanbase is the worst.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 11:11:11 2020 No.7161650 >>7161554 Sucking cocks >>7161604 Embarrasing taste

>>	Kegan Thu Dec 10 11:14:33 2020 No.7161660 >>7160791 Pretty based. Also anyone who doesn't like Unreal or Turok too gets the rope.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 11:15:54 2020 No.7161663 These threads are so fucking reddit it hurts

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 11:17:04 2020 No.7161667 >>7161663 Yeah liking only Doom and hating other fps is reddit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 11:17:33 2020 No.7161669 >>7161667 Based and alfpilled

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 11:17:46 2020 No.7161670 >>7160678 I can load Quake today and have fun while it keeps having a sense of atmosphere and the sound design alone still holds up, not to mention the soundtrack. Unreal puts me to fucking sleep.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 11:20:04 2020 No.7161673 >>7160787 But do you keep it in your pants? Or do you let everyone see your throbbing golden boner?

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 11:22:40 2020 No.7161681
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>>7161608
>>7161639
I will try it. Kinda tired of having all these folders with duplicate files essentially (doom2.wad, extras).

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 11:28:39 2020 No.7161692 Name your favorite fps.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 11:29:00 2020 No.7161693 >>7161137 Alf ate him.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 11:29:54 2020 No.7161694 >>7161692 Arcane Dimensions

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 11:33:23 2020 No.7161703 >>7161694 Is it fair for me to compare new “shooter revival” releases to AD?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 11:35:24 2020 No.7161708 >>7161604 Great points, you massive knobgobbler. I asked what you do like.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 11:35:34 2020 No.7161709 >>7161703 You could put AD on Steam tomorrow for 25 bucks and it'd be totally at home. So yes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 11:38:35 2020 No.7161714 >>7161708 >Great points lol he doesn't like fps anon. He wants to shit up this general.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 11:38:59 2020 No.7161715 File: 2.92 MB, 960x540, nat_Tips hat.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7161694 based

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 11:39:00 2020 No.7161716 File: 75 KB, 992x838, 1607617695567.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Doom in smash Doom in smash

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 11:40:56 2020 No.7161720 File: 582 KB, 500x704, 1593858897653.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7161692 Can't get enough of best boy Caleb.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 11:43:32 2020 No.7161721 >>7161720 What the hell was Blood 2 ??

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 11:43:59 2020 No.7161724 >>7161721 Shh

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 11:47:41 2020 No.7161732

>>7161692
It used to be Quake, but At this point is just Doom for the endless work done through the decades by the community. Although Arcane Dimensions can give a run for it's money to be a contender.

I was thinking of playing some of the Build Engine games. Particularly Shadow Warrior and Blood, because I already did Duke in the past, although I haven't finished "The Birth", but I couldn't care less.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 11:47:44 2020 No.7161734 >>7161709 It set the standard as far as I’m concerned. >>7161721 Sadness happened.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 11:52:08 2020 No.7161740 >>7161721 Let's just remember that as an unfortunate accident. Like when a baby gets dropped on its head and he seems fine so no one bothers going to the doctor.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 11:53:02 2020 No.7161742
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>>7161732
I felt the same way about "The Birth" until I started diving into it, it's all sorts of fun.
SW and Blood are both fantastic, have you dug into them much before? If not, just be wary that they can end your runs much more quickly than what you can run into Duke.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 11:55:31 2020 No.7161749 >>7161732 I strongly suggest keeping autoaim on for Shadow Warrior. Very chaotic fights.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 11:55:54 2020 No.7161750 >>7161742 I haven't had any contact with SW at all, but I did play a demo of blood when I was a kid. Maybe I'll boot up a copy of Duke and do The Birth to see if I find the fun there. It's just that the end of Shrapnel City left me satisfied.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 11:56:59 2020 No.7161751 >>7161742 Despite Blood being memed for the cultists hitscanners I find Shadow Warrior much worse in this regard. The guys in Blood are stupidly fast to react. Not to mention the annoying ghosts that sometimes show up.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 11:59:16 2020 No.7161754 >>7161742 Well, to be fair there's laser tripmines that activate when you're a cunt's hair away from them. But that like the only one thing in douk off the top of my head

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 12:00:53 2020 No.7161760 >>7161751 Blood is legit hitscan hell, Shadow Warrior is more of an instant death missle hell.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 12:02:07 2020 No.7161764 What are good wads to get good at not being killed by cyberdemon?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 12:03:32 2020 No.7161769 File: 2.52 MB, 640x360, butt-pummeled.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7161764 Punch him in the butt until he blows up.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 12:05:43 2020 No.7161776
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>>7161760
Once you get a good flow to the combat and movement I find it easy to avoid and stun the cultists. Never managed that in Shadow Warrior, although you're right the missiles are more hellish.
Honestly I think SW has a stronger enemy variety than Blood. I love it but if there's anything I'd change in Blood is some of the enemies to make them more dangerous. As it is only the cultists keep the player on edge.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 12:06:23 2020 No.7161778 >>7161692 Chad Life

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 12:14:12 2020 No.7161787

>>7161776
>Honestly I think SW has a stronger enemy variety than Blood. I love it but if there's anything I'd change in Blood is some of the enemies to make them more dangerous. As it is only the cultists keep the player on edge.
Not that anon, but my thoughts exactly. But it does stand to Blood's greatness that you can make a very simple map, but mix and match cultists, and you'd have a recipe for a good time. They're like the villagers from Resident Evil 4: They're just so damn fun to kill.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 12:16:41 2020 No.7161793 >>7161716 I wonder what Tracks they would use

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 12:17:03 2020 No.7161795 >>7161787 >They're like the villagers from Resident Evil 4: They're just so damn fun to kill. F.E.A.R replicas are like this to me as well.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 12:17:46 2020 No.7161796 >>7161175 Hes probably referencing the key thats missing on HMP

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 12:18:37 2020 No.7161802 >>7161795 Hear, hear. Flashlight!

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 12:18:55 2020 No.7161804

>>7161787
>MARANAAAAAAAAAAAAH IT BURNS
Like music to my ears
I'd love to see a more active mod community for Blood. If Death Wish is anything to go by there's some monumental untapped potential here.
Plasma Pak adding a few variants to the cultists already helps a bit with this.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 12:19:52 2020 No.7161806 File: 2.93 MB, 640x360, dukennuken.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7161750 It's a lot of fun.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 12:19:56 2020 No.7161807 >>7161804 BLOOD /vr/ PROJECT RELEASE WHEN??????

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 12:24:09 2020 No.7161817 >>7161005 >>7161009 Most of the monsters in Powerslave were digitized physical models.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 12:24:37 2020 No.7161818 Do you faggots really enjoy Nightmare mode?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 12:24:50 2020 No.7161819 >>7161764 Cyberdreams.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 12:29:28 2020 No.7161826 >>7161482 Its kinda funny, ive watched gameplay videos of Powerslave and Hexen 2 (both games where some enemies track their shots) and people REFUSE to adapt to it. They just try to circlestrafe and get hit practically every time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 12:29:46 2020 No.7161827 >>7161818 Doom? No. Quake? Yeah, especially if a mod makes up for it like Copper, AD, Drake, etc. I think progs_dump does too.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 12:35:19 2020 No.7161843

Seeing the cacotard winner wad screenshots we can all agree the Doom community is tanking by now and forgot how to create proper mapsets. All these eye rapingly ugly coloured, sprawling, "muh unreal" slaughter shit is the norm by now. You faggots don't deserve mapsets like NRFTL or Sigil, which showed you the what to do.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 12:36:18 2020 No.7161847 >>7161843 Start up a mapping project. Show 'em how it's done.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 12:36:36 2020 No.7161849 >>7161843 I only use vanilla textures, do I deserve Sigil?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 12:36:55 2020 No.7161851 >>7161818 Its fun on certain maps (Underhalls is actually a lot of fun on nightmare) but a slog on others.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 12:41:24 2020 No.7161861

>>7161467
What's worse is the mother of all demons. Those fireballs are like the Vore's attacks but multiple every couple of seconds.
>>7161482
I'd argue a decent compromise would be that it can predict but only slightly. So projectiles could have a bit of an arc just to force the player to move a bit more instead of a very simple sidestep to avoid a projectile going in a straight line.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 12:43:05 2020 No.7161867 >>7161760 After playing both for awhile, you really do have to pick your poison. I haven’t found a “surprise” cultist ambush on Well Done to be anymore or less offensive than a “surprise” shadow ninja encounter with a side of coolies.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 12:53:34 2020 No.7161894
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Where were you when Quake 2 became real?

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/12/09/europe/french-army-soldiers-technology-ethics-scli-intl-scn/index.html

>France under the leadership of Macron is creating the foundation for the Strogg war machine
>Quake 2's story wasn't that far from reality

>>	Blood Anon Thu Dec 10 12:57:48 2020 No.7161904 >>7161807 When its done™

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 13:02:00 2020 No.7161916 >>7160502 I guess if you're that much of a little bitch you had better not play Plutonia.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 13:05:24 2020 No.7161924 >>7160676 Long, labyrinthine, boring levels and slog gameplay.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 13:06:35 2020 No.7161927 File: 163 KB, 472x407, 1577110113610.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7161894 Oh shit

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 13:06:46 2020 No.7161928 >>7161904 I'M GONNA RIP YOUR BALLS OFF SO YOU CANNOT CONTAMINATE THE REST OF THE WORLD

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 13:09:09 2020 No.7161938 File: 93 KB, 250x282, 1444148598954.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7161894 So it was actually not Strogg, but Frogg?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 13:12:57 2020 No.7161946 >>7161938 Makes absolute sense.

>>	Blood Anon Thu Dec 10 13:13:42 2020 No.7161948 >>7161928 You will never be an intelligent human.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 13:13:58 2020 No.7161950 >>7161716 it would be fitting if they based him on classic doom since that would fit the gaming history focus and that "imagine showing this in 2009" status but i can already expect it only 2016 and eternal stuff

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 13:14:18 2020 No.7161951 File: 772 KB, 1920x1080, Screenshot_Doom_20201210_211319.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >think you're clever because you can abuse straferunning >get softlocked because mapper didn't test his creation properly

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 13:15:17 2020 No.7161953 >>7160623 >>7160626 Images are not an argument in and of themselves fagtron. How the fuck is Tim Sweeney linked to Epstein and Dershowitz?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 13:16:02 2020 No.7161956 >>7161951 wad?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 13:16:34 2020 No.7161958 >>7161948 WERE YOU BORN A FAT SLIMY PIECE OF SHIT, OR DID YOU HAVE TO WORK ON IT?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 13:17:06 2020 No.7161960 File: 55 KB, 388x484, mon visage quand.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7161894 Le trespasser!

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 13:18:31 2020 No.7161963 >>7161953 >How the fuck is Tim Sweeney linked to Epstein But Warren Spector is. Gets the noggin joggin about Deus Ex, amirite there fellow schizos?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 13:19:55 2020 No.7161968 >>7161956 Technicolor Antichrist Box, one of cacoward runner ups.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 13:23:32 2020 No.7161974 File: 322 KB, 900x692, 1604277799779.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7160502 Lmao pleb Imagine finding TNT hard

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 13:26:19 2020 No.7161982 >>7161963 Ok Warren Specter probably is, but by how much, really? In addition, Tim Sweeney and Warren Spector are different people overall.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 13:26:45 2020 No.7161983 >>7160876 You posted my waifu, and pretty much what I use as well. I like you. I also use the Roland SC-55 music pack http://sc55.duke4.net/games.php#doom

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 13:28:06 2020 No.7161986 What if Decino was a judge in the cacowards?

>>	Blood Anon Thu Dec 10 13:29:55 2020 No.7161989 File: 1.68 MB, 869x1071, Cosmic Level Ineptitude.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >7161958 Loaded question, don't expect another reply pencil head. You haven't posted anything worthwhile since this projects inception.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 13:31:04 2020 No.7161990
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>>7160876
For GZDoom, it's immerse, droplets, and sbms for brightmaps. I've mostly been playing Babel with GZDoom. Otherwise it's vanilla smooth weapons and whatever options I'm feeling in Crispy Doom.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 13:31:22 2020 No.7161992 >>7161989 You do realize those are Full Metal Jacket quotes, right?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 13:33:30 2020 No.7161997 >>7161692 Hell on Earth

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 13:34:59 2020 No.7162002 >>7161001 Well major arlene, a member of the cacoward committee, got her map put as a runner up by her buddy

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 13:35:39 2020 No.7162005 >>7161989 JESUS H. CHRIST! I THINK YOU'VE GOT A HARDON!

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 13:35:47 2020 No.7162006 >>7160990 You don't feel like the flashlight ruins the intended darkness of some maps? Real nice hud tho

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 13:36:40 2020 No.7162009 >>7160876 Colored blood fixer, corpse death flipper.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 13:40:32 2020 No.7162020 >>7161960 LE TRESSEPASSEUR

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 13:40:45 2020 No.7162023 >>7161950 I imagine there would be 4 nu-doom colours and 4 classic doom colors

>>	Blood Anon Thu Dec 10 13:46:21 2020 No.7162036 >>7161992 Well shit.... It's been a while since I watched FMJ, didn't make the connection. I guess I stumbled headlong into his chasm of tricks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 13:48:31 2020 No.7162041 >>7161951 >his

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 13:50:51 2020 No.7162047 Hey Bloodanon, take your time with the holidays and such. 2048 Units of /vr/ had lots of bugs that were slowly ironed out after its release. I imagine you'd want to avoid that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 13:54:12 2020 No.7162052 >>7161986 >Cacowards 2021 Judges >decino >gman >civvie >icarus It would be based.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 13:54:49 2020 No.7162056 >>7162047 And furthermore, I'm pretty sure a collaborative effort like this is a first for Blood as a whole? Wouldn't want to go off half-cocked and make a bad first impression with the general retro FPS fanbase across the internet.

>>	Blood Anon Thu Dec 10 13:55:06 2020 No.7162057 >>7162047 For sure man, I want the first revision to be as polished as possible. I'm trying to keep up a reasonable pace but Fresh Supply is a total hemorrhoid to deal with. It breaks so much shit on a regular basis.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 13:56:51 2020 No.7162059 >>7162057 Not that anon, but why not stick to BuildGDX?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 13:58:26 2020 No.7162061 >>7160502 Well this is original complaint. I've never had problem with difficulty, only the fact that level design turns unfocused, boring and ugly after the midpoint.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 13:59:16 2020 No.7162063 >>7162052 Wanna guess how I know you're a fay-got?

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 13:59:49 2020 No.7162064

>>7160934
>Rowdy Rudy 2
>>Ok, but he's been making stuff exactly like that for like decades, this can't be that much better

Honestly one of the best entry-level wads in recent years. Yeah he's been on the same shit for a while now but this one did deserve an award for how focused it was.
Throw the guy a bone.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 14:02:15 2020 No.7162069 >>7162057 >Fresh Supply Why, even its main dev told people on twitter to just use nBlood and GDX. The longer you keep supporting it, the longer it'll take for the players to switch to N/GDX. You're just prolonging your own hell.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 14:05:54 2020 No.7162076 >>7162069 Not to mention the whole shit about FS no longer able to be updated.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 14:07:09 2020 No.7162084

>>7160934
>>7161015
I'm almost angry that Akeldama didn't even get mentioned as a runner-up. Lot of 1 map wads, gzdoom shit, even little wad of rejected dtwid2 maps getting mentioned. Akeldama is full 32 map megawad, with unique looks and very good classic gameplay, and not even a runner-up. What a shit show.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 14:07:10 2020 No.7162085 >>7162052 >>7162052 a separate "e-celeb" panel would be pretty interesting, give them a handful of titles and see how their opinions compare to the real judges.

>>	Blood Anon Thu Dec 10 14:07:14 2020 No.7162086 >>7162059 It seems like a lot of people play with Fresh Supply, regardless of the problems. I want to make all of the maps bootable and beatable in that port for those who are still using it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 14:12:12 2020 No.7162097 >>7160934 >Faithless Trilogy The only one in the list I'm actually that interested in. Interested-in-passing for a few, but I'll probably actually go out of my way for faithless.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 14:14:02 2020 No.7162098 File: 256 KB, 500x375, 1591296625541.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7162052 >gman

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 14:15:07 2020 No.7162102 >>7162084 yeah, i'm usually excited for cacowards because they mention stuff that I haven't played yet. this year was just them sucking each other off, megawads are always better than mini packs.

>>	Blood Anon Thu Dec 10 14:18:00 2020 No.7162113 >>7162069 >You're just prolonging your own hell I do this a lot, sometimes without noticing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 14:19:27 2020 No.7162115 >>7162102 >megawads are always better than mini packs I don't agree, but it does seem a bit one sided this year.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 14:20:26 2020 No.7162119 >>7160502 >TNT Hard Wait what? How is that even possible? I love TNT it's my favorite Iwad but TNT is anything but hard

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 14:23:10 2020 No.7162125 File: 732 KB, 1876x2739, 754.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7161894 Shit it's happening again

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 14:24:28 2020 No.7162128 >>7162115 ignore that dts-t exists and it becomes much more valid

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 14:29:56 2020 No.7162151 thinking about alternatives to the cacowards or other stuff to mention mods that rarely get brought up and now i remember inmost dens and how that is barely updated anymore

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 14:32:22 2020 No.7162154 >>7162151 it's a tough life, when all we can do is browse here for people showing us stuff, and check zdoom forums/doomworlds projects for anything that isn't buried under the circlejerking.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 14:32:58 2020 No.7162157 >>7162151 tfw onemandoom stopped updating too

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 14:34:38 2020 No.7162158 >>7161604 >>7161708 not even same anon m8

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 14:40:05 2020 No.7162168 >>7162151 Would be cool to get a new team doing their own awards just to shake things up. At the moment they have a monopoly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 14:43:28 2020 No.7162181 >>7162168 I think that Cacowards should work purely with voting. It would make it pure.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 14:47:39 2020 No.7162195 >>7162181 >x only won because of those shitlords in the 4chan thread rigging the vote >just doomerboards ensuring their own projects win they would never allow it

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 14:56:52 2020 No.7162227 File: 147 KB, 622x562, 14291625911650.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7162195 >2048 units of /vr/ wins because of Russian collusion

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 15:00:10 2020 No.7162235

>>7161818
It just changes the way you play the game completely. I used to hate it and then I really got into it. You go into it thinking you're gonna go for your normal speedrunning path but then you have to think about things like how to get through without alerting certain enemies because it'll just add to the mess. Back tracking becomes a strategic choice so you have to plan your way through, and that's why a lot people don't like it I think, it gives you the feeling that killing enemies isn't making progress, which it isn't really, so the way you measure progress is how far along your planned route you are.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 15:08:47 2020 No.7162253 >>7162181 It should work however the people that run it wants it to. I don't have a share in the cacoward "brand". However it would indeed be nice if there were other awards run by other people as well - the more the merrier.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 15:14:23 2020 No.7162265

>>7162253
this
you'd want the doom community to grow, if it meant more people with interest that could even garantue that doom actually lives on
it seems like some popular "doom members" are stubborn because they want to act like the "leaders" of the community

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 15:14:57 2020 No.7162269 >>7162227 >zdf lost the popular vote

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 15:20:31 2020 No.7162279 >>7160392 You can't do 0.1% of what Silverman is capable of

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 15:20:33 2020 No.7162280 >>7161451 Understandable sentiment indeed. >snakes No, they are not snakes, they are leeches. >4x2chan Its now split into 8kun and 8ch@nnel. How about 76chan, endchan and 5chon as well?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 15:21:05 2020 No.7162283 >>7161554 Wolf3D, Doom, Doom II, Doom 64, Rise of the Triad, Heretic, Hexen, Duke Nukem 3D, Blood, Shadow Warrior, Cybermage, Terminator: Future Shock, Ion Fury, Quake, Powerslave/Exhumed, Marathon trilogy and others

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 15:21:45 2020 No.7162287 File: 20 KB, 158x166, shades.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7160502 >getting mad over old video games

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 15:22:23 2020 No.7162290 So what wads were made this year by people who primarily hang around here that you would give award to?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 15:22:56 2020 No.7162292 File: 49 KB, 220x220, E2M2_maze_SW.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7162227 We found crates and crates of ballots just sitting here

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 15:23:26 2020 No.7162293 >>7160579 The engine is nothing short of a technological marvel for its time, even the software renderer.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 15:23:51 2020 No.7162294 >>7162290 None, these threads aren't for gaming or creativity, they are for politics and shitposting. Stop making these fucking awful threads. You HAVE to go back.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 15:24:17 2020 No.7162298 >>7162283 >ate alf life >ate turok >ate unrel >luv dum >luv wulf >luv rot >luv marfon >simple as - Alf

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 15:25:16 2020 No.7162302 >>7162287 I'd get mad about new games, but everyone already does it, so what's the point?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 15:27:13 2020 No.7162307 >>7162283 Yawn

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 15:27:20 2020 No.7162308 File: 299 KB, 610x397, WPK2swi.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7162298 oh yeah? I can enrage more than one seething autist by posting real 90's shootkino

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 15:27:39 2020 No.7162310 >>7160882 Powerslave's spritework was the ultimate mish mash frankenstein technique. Every trick in the book was used; digitized photos of puppets and actors, claymation, digital painting in photoshop and rendered elements.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 15:28:45 2020 No.7162314 I can namedrop other fps for gamer cred too xd

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 15:30:13 2020 No.7162318 File: 71 KB, 575x416, 1607446541070.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7162298 You say it as if that's a bad thing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 15:31:05 2020 No.7162319 File: 163 KB, 640x480, Grunt_headless.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] GORDON NOOOOOOOOOOO

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 15:31:08 2020 No.7162320 >>7162298 Melmac FC

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 15:31:23 2020 No.7162323 >>7162307 Are we really going to pretend those games aren't good anymore just to spite some schizo?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 15:32:08 2020 No.7162327 >>7162318 liking ROTT and Wolf 3D is pretty cringe.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 15:32:34 2020 No.7162328 The jews made me hate video games

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 15:33:10 2020 No.7162330 >>7162323 Yes

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 15:33:26 2020 No.7162331 File: 581 KB, 1395x2201, PC Computer - Exhumed Powerslave - Player.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7162310 Some of those monsters look fucking awesome though. The player is a straight up RoTT style digitized actor

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 15:38:12 2020 No.7162339 File: 18 KB, 499x555, I want to ______ that ______.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7160882 >scorpion lady

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 15:38:18 2020 No.7162340
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>>7162331
I've never liked the goggles on his eyes, makes him look goofy as fuck in his forward facing firing sprites. He looks pretty much like the cover art if they had just not used that silly shit. Maybe they wanted more definition in the face?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 15:40:47 2020 No.7162343 File: 196 KB, 1024x1820, proton_ferocity.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SOqhPPTv6m-78VHgZWmrAd2z1cmwJj7s/view?usp=sharing who comfy?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 15:40:52 2020 No.7162347 >>7162339 both of the insects and the tentacle eyed thing at the bottom are all looking pretty feminine to me, this site has destroyed my mind god damn it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 15:43:30 2020 No.7162350 >>7162331 >>7162340 The glasses look like they were added in after the fact with mspaint. I've been wondering if that's exactly what they did when they added the one liners to make the game more like Duke

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 15:49:11 2020 No.7162361 >>7162331 I’m about to check and compare on my PC shortly, but how do they compare to Blood sprites? Are they as big or smaller?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 15:53:19 2020 No.7162370 >>7162347 Its harmless enough.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 16:09:57 2020 No.7162397 Was 2020 just a bad year for Doom wads? Some of the wads on the cacowards are just complete trash. Like Syringe looks pretty but dear God some of the levels like MAP02 are shit in terms of gameplay.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 16:11:27 2020 No.7162402

The aspects of this place that make it gr8 and let it live tthroughout the years is more conductive to the sort of single person/small coordinated efforts seen in the mods that have come out. I think, as much as nu-internet sucks, that having different outlets for project reach is ultimately how we could get something more out there/see shit you don’t see here. Quake mapping for instance feels way more alive on twitshit and the existence of mapper discords puts a loop of OC out of reach of anyone not in them.

Of course though, if you aren’t on /vr/ then you’re not /vr/ and you have to deal with non anonymous groups and interests. Discords not whipped into shape turn into cesspools of drama or circlejerking and twitter causes everyone on it to go batshit bonkers from idpol war exposure. Yeah here’s your quake map projects but you have to take this estradiol shot and interact with the same people running the doominati/trans doom cabal

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 16:16:49 2020 No.7162405 >>7162397 What's bad about the gameplay? I thought it was fun.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 16:16:55 2020 No.7162406 >>7162397 It wasn't bad, just not as good as recent years. Doom community was spoiled for choices for a while.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 16:20:11 2020 No.7162412 >>7161508 I think it was done right with Lava Golems in Serious Sam, they will fire in the direction where you are currently going so you have to change the direction your going in order not to get hit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 16:26:23 2020 No.7162426 >>7162402 Discord exclusive mapping is a blight.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 16:27:09 2020 No.7162427 >>7161843 The problem isn't the there aren't good nonslaughter mapsets released this year, it's that they went unnoticed for some reason, like Akeldama getting only a small mention.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 16:28:04 2020 No.7162428
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>>7162412
Croteam were wizards once upon a time. Clashing styles they may have had, but TFE and TSE have an almost perfect enemy roster to flesh out the gameplay. /vr/'s Serious Mapjam when?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 16:30:15 2020 No.7162436 >>7162397 The fat years are over. Deal with it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 16:31:43 2020 No.7162439 >>7162428 Yeah, were. SS 3 and 4 are complete trash.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 16:33:04 2020 No.7162443 >>7162439 And the remakes are souless too

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 16:36:29 2020 No.7162448
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>>7162439
Not retro, but when 3 (Fusion) is pure Serious Sam gameplay? It's fucking amazing. Easily better than Serious Sam 4 and its fucking gadget bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 16:38:38 2020 No.7162452 I liked serious sam 4. I thought it was leagues better than 3. A serious sam classic mapping project would be fun.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 16:39:00 2020 No.7162454 >>7162436 Now it's time to wait for Erik Alm to finish Scythe X and bring about the new golden age of Doom wads

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 16:39:56 2020 No.7162459 >>7162397 I'm guessing you didn't like map02 because of the damaging floors?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 16:41:56 2020 No.7162464 >>7162452 You're not the only one, I honestly like it as much as the classics. All that story, gadget and skill tree shit I could do without, but the gunplay and the fights really carry the game in my opinion.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 16:42:43 2020 No.7162465

>>7162452
It's not BAD, but I wish it didn't have gadgets so fucking much. At the very least it has none of the stupid "slowed down" sections of 3.
>A serious sam classic mapping project would be fun.
I've been teaching myself Serious Editor with that in mind to host a "Beginner's /vr/ Serious Sam jam" since I doubt anyone else will. Slow and steady.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 16:43:58 2020 No.7162471 >>7162439 3 and 4 are fine games. Yes, they have gimmicks that feel very un-sam-like, but you can easily ignore them and very quickly you can just play them like any other sam game.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 16:46:28 2020 No.7162478 >>7162426 Sure, but the point is it's an additional mode of organization even if it's a shoddy replacement for like, an IRC and a personal file host. Imagine it done, but better than the way others are doing it. Just don't be a fag about it

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 16:50:02 2020 No.7162483 File: 2.74 MB, 2997x2000, 1488609833045.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7162459 It was primarily the overabundance of chaingunners, especially on high ledges. Putting chaingunners on high ledges is always a terrible idea.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 16:51:27 2020 No.7162490

>>7162464
Skill tree would be fine if taking any of the melee skills were actually viable. Right now all the dual wield skills are just so powerful you'd be stupid not to take that side of the skill tree. Gadgets definitely need a rebalance.
>>7162465
How is mapping for the older games? What I remember about it is a little fuzzy but isn't it similar to older unreal engines where you carve out parts of the map instead of adding sectors/brushes like other engines?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 16:52:08 2020 No.7162492 so, for shadow warrior i go for classic redux?

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 16:52:24 2020 No.7162493

>>7162397
Actually, outside of maybe ambitious 32 level megawads, I think this year was generally a good year for wads. It's just that not everything could make the Top Ten, so there was bound to be some disagreements.
Twelve wads received runner-up status, which is a lot more than usual, and that's not even going into the numerous wads that were given honorable mentions in the Special Features page.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 16:52:29 2020 No.7162494 >>7162492 Classic with WangGDX

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 16:53:30 2020 No.7162495 >>7162483 Eh, I felt the chaingunners were fine. But I'm used to fighting lots of them, so take that as you will.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 16:55:36 2020 No.7162502 File: 213 KB, 1078x676, temp.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 16:58:00 2020 No.7162509 >>7162502 Ooh, whats this from? Looks neat.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 17:06:07 2020 No.7162528
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>>7162452
Serious Sam's humor overall is kinda weird. It works in TFE and TSE, but the comedy in just about every game after that (except prolly Next Encounter, which was a bit more like a refined TF/SE in terms of comedy) seemed.... Off somehow. It almost feels like Croteam was just barely aware of the concept of humor beyond what they did in TF/SE, but not enough to the point of it making much sense. The best way I could put it is that the post-Encounter games' humor is like absurdist humor that's not trying to be absurd somehow, yet it still comes off as absurd if that makes any sense. It was a lot more prevalent in 2, especially with the cartoony aesthetic, but it's still kinda there in 3 and 4. 4 more so than 3, anyway. I think that's cus 3 was trying to be more serious than 4.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 17:07:30 2020 No.7162530 File: 168 KB, 1087x813, temp.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7162509 REKKR. Here's a crispy doom cap of the same area, with less moire pattern.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 17:09:34 2020 No.7162538 >>7162443 I liked the Xbox Serious Sam that combined TFE and TSE with the art style of SS2

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 17:12:04 2020 No.7162545 >>7162361 Bigger

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 17:12:25 2020 No.7162546
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>>7162528
It's a very mixed bag. I'm a simpleton and found 4 to be hilarious with all the stupid puns non-stop but I can see why others might not enjoy that. Wouldn't surprise me if the lore reason they spout puns all the time is because they use it as a coping mechanism to deal with the horrors of Mental's horde. 3 was pretty bland but not offensive like 2 was. I literally cannot play 2 because it hurts my brain with all the visuals, jokes, enemy designs, and sounds. TFE and TSE are great and don't push any unnecessary boundaries like you said.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 17:22:06 2020 No.7162565 psydoom update gavity ands the atorun

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 17:22:07 2020 No.7162567

>>7162546
>spoiler
I... Kinda thought of that too, yeah. Not like a DEEP AND BIG THONK GAYME THEORY thing, but it is fun to think about. If there were any other FPS games about a ragtag group of people trying to save the world for an alien or demonic force, I'd like to see that explored more.

Also 2 is kind of ironically kind of depressing considering 3 and 4, cus all the wacky and zany bullshit Sam does and encounters in it are a far cry from the somewhat genuine human connections he had in 3 and 4. Whereas in 2 he's basically in a living cartoon, meanwhile all remnants of his previous life on Earth is basically space dust. Obviously I don't take SS lore that seriously to the point of actually believing in that, but again, it's fun to think about if you don't take it seriously.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 17:23:12 2020 No.7162570
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>>7162492
WangGDX and you should keep an eye on VoidSW. It's only major problem is the music not working a third of the time but I love it otherwise.
That and WangGDX reads my mouse inputs weirdly.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 17:26:51 2020 No.7162573

>>7162490
I use/intend to do the jam with the Classics Revolution editor since it has textures and content from both games all in one.
>but isn't it similar to older unreal engines where you carve out parts of the map instead of adding sectors/brushes like other engines?
Both are possible. If you want to brush up, check this page:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=257827135
When it mentions "DesertTemple" for the texture resource, just go to First Encounter and select Hatshepsut.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 17:28:16 2020 No.7162575 File: 2.46 MB, 1920x1080, Sam4 2020-10-16 04-10-38-489.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7162528 It's very esoteric, but I love it all.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 17:31:31 2020 No.7162585 >>7162567 I really don't know what 2 was trying to do https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpmsZozXOm4

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 17:35:10 2020 No.7162601 >>7162528 One thing they've never been good at is art direction.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 17:36:22 2020 No.7162609

>>7162585
Like I mentioned, think of SS2 Sam as loosing his fucking mind after being far far away from his friends back on Earth and Earth itself for so long, both of which are completely disintegrated to smitheroons ergo making it unlikely he'll ever see them again regardless if he ever found and killed Mental, and it makes like, 0.5% more sense tops. Only catch is, you have to take Serious Sam seriously.

pun intended

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 17:36:55 2020 No.7162613 File: 1.35 MB, 240x180, CrudoxCrooooooooooooooooooooooooo.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7162528 Maybe it's a Croatian thing?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 17:37:53 2020 No.7162617 File: 2.53 MB, 1920x1080, SeriousSam 2020-04-22 22-45-40-276.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7162601 Bullshit my friend.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 17:38:56 2020 No.7162623 >>7162585 That one's aktschually a reference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRM2YcGpmxg

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 17:39:37 2020 No.7162626 >>7162613 I've always kinda thought that, actually. That it's some kind of weird cultural barrier or something.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 17:40:47 2020 No.7162629 >>7162623 that reference isn't funny ever, but instantly becomes a riot when someone doesn't get it.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 17:43:59 2020 No.7162638

>>7162617
Don't get me wrong, there are some beautifully modelled environments. But you can have a ton of beautiful assets and designs that don't really form something cohesive together - if you'd taken that picture with a gnaar up in the players face it would have been apparent, I think.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 17:45:29 2020 No.7162641 Another example would be the mesoamerican ruins filled with chainsaw-wielding pumpkinheads in TSE.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 17:50:34 2020 No.7162652

i'm illiterate on ss lore but if the main bad guys are aliens, do you ever visit their home?
like how doom has hell, wolfenstein has nazi castles/bases, quake has those dimensions and strogg bases etc
like, the "bowser's castle" for bowser and his minions and shit, but for serious sam

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 17:51:53 2020 No.7162660 >>7160380 >>7160714 >>7160730 >>7160765 >>7162052 >>7162102 >>7162151 Bros, cacowards have been circlejerk shit for 10 years. /VR/ SHOULD HAVE ITS OWN CACOWARDS WHO'S WITH ME

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 17:51:58 2020 No.7162662

>>7162638
Look, it was originally just about throwing some cool ideas together. Small team, in-house engine because no one in that part of the world at that time could afford to license a modern game engine. The first SS is garage mentality it its best. Just some FPS nerds coming together to make their own FPS, as good as it can be when some 20-something nerds take on their first work.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 17:52:26 2020 No.7162663 >>7162652 You visit the kleer homeworld in 2. Otherwise most of Serious Sam is about the battle for and loss of Earth.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 17:52:53 2020 No.7162668 >>7162660 Just post your picks so I could call you a fag.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 17:54:06 2020 No.7162672 >>7162652 There's a bored alien demigod kid called Mental and he decides to destroy Earth for fun before his mother makes his supper

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 17:55:38 2020 No.7162675 >>7162663 I think all of Serious Sam 2 is on alien planets, though most are not enemy homes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 18:00:16 2020 No.7162692 >>7162660 >for 10 years. You mean 17 years.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 18:02:05 2020 No.7162698

>>7162662
I'm not saying the game was bad anon. I like the first one, and I love the encounter design of TSE. I'm just saying that neither the first two games nor any that came after them had good art direction or, with the exception some exceptionally good set piece battles, well planned overall design at all really.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 18:03:13 2020 No.7162709

>>7162084
Akeldama was mentioned on the special features page
>The hefty Akeldama is a must-play for avowed fans of classics like Memento Mori and Requiem. It had a lot of buzz on Doomworld, thanks to its reliable infusion of that oldschool energy into big, polished adventure maps packed with hundreds of enemies, all under the catchy riffs and moody jams of its community-made soundtrack. Whether through project-leader @valkiriforce's stewardship or some kinship of spirit everyone latched onto, it looks and feels the part, although some will wish the bulk was broken up by shorter pacer maps.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 18:14:57 2020 No.7162762 >>7162660 /vr/'s version of cacowards would be just as much circlejerk as the cacowards itself, honestly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 18:21:55 2020 No.7162789 File: 31 KB, 962x539, 1532227033688.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Please someome make new Turok levels for god's sake!!

>>	Blood Anon Thu Dec 10 18:33:09 2020 No.7162826 >>7162789 Why not learn the editor yourself? Level design is more fun than gameplay once you get acclimated.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 18:54:46 2020 No.7162869

Playthrough video of map27 of 1994 tune-up community project is up. A large map, but quite linear and pretty easy. Probably a breather before the final stretch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3EVv6qG1Us
And the original.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-l7ivQds2cg

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 19:01:01 2020 No.7162881 >celebrating the shareware birthday lmao

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 19:01:31 2020 No.7162882 What are your most spicy opinions on individual maps or wads?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 19:02:25 2020 No.7162883 >>7162882 The Chasm is fine.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 19:03:31 2020 No.7162886 >>7162882 Episode 1 is not the best.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 19:03:53 2020 No.7162887 >>7162886 B A S E D

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 19:05:13 2020 No.7162892 >>7162882 Unholy cathedral is not that bad.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 19:09:49 2020 No.7162898 >>7162882 epic2 is a boring drag, and other than some nice looking maps is probably one of the worst megawads.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 19:10:12 2020 No.7162902 >>7162882 I think Doom 2 was better than Doom 1, and Mt Erebus was the best Doom 1 map.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 19:12:43 2020 No.7162908 >>7162826 Seconding.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 19:15:38 2020 No.7162918 >>7161742 Shadow Warrior has such cool weapons.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 19:16:54 2020 No.7162921 >>7162918 And its actually having fun instead of you know. Ion Fury glitter. But its still the most jank build game.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 19:17:08 2020 No.7162923 >>7162882 I didn't think Valiant was really anything special outside of some cool visuals.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 19:26:06 2020 No.7162934 >>7162921 >But its still the most jank build game. It's still leaps and bounds ahead of the likes of Witchaven or Redneck Rampage. If we're just counting Blood, Duke, Powerslave, and Shadow Warrior though, then yeah, it's at the bottom.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 19:26:50 2020 No.7162938 >>7162934 Sure. its a shame for redneck rampage. It looks and sounds really nice.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 19:27:33 2020 No.7162940 File: 172 KB, 1920x1080, scr-Master Leeps Temple-0007.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7162921 I think you mean the most based.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 19:28:16 2020 No.7162943 >>7162006 It can, but it only has so much range and effect (you can tune it), and levels like the one pictured was dark as fuck, so it was either that or not seeing anything.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 19:29:52 2020 No.7162945 >>7162052 Literally only Decino would be a worthwhile judge out of your suggested panel.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 19:31:35 2020 No.7162949 >>7162052 the only judge we need is joel, the vinesauce wad competitions have done more for the community than anything those guys have spawned.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 19:33:31 2020 No.7162953 >>7162949 decino still knows more about doom than most people we need him an marphyblack

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 19:36:27 2020 No.7162960 File: 227 KB, 700x700, 1604023778799.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7162227

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 19:36:57 2020 No.7162961 >>7162921 The only thing I was lukewarm to in that game were Shelly and some of he music. Guns, levels, enemies, detail, all great. >>7162938 First two maps of RR have left a real bad impression so far.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 19:37:37 2020 No.7162963 >>7162279 What, communicate with human beings?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 19:37:50 2020 No.7162968 >>7162882 It's fine if a map plays kinda bad if it looks really cool.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 19:38:31 2020 No.7162969 >>7162961 Its the wasted potential. I love how Ion Fury looks, and some details in it are so fucking good it hurts. I want more but without Shelly and those nobody enemies.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 19:41:14 2020 No.7162972 File: 2.92 MB, 640x360, 1605242042991.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7162969 >Its the wasted potential Some, sure, but not to that extent. It's a great game. >aliens >ninjas >cyborgs Only enemies with personality were cultists in my book

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 19:42:37 2020 No.7162978 >>7162972 And again I really dont like the way death animations look.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 19:43:42 2020 No.7162982 >>7162978 Sucks for you, anon

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 19:46:04 2020 No.7162989 >>7162982 It does. I still finished it. But I have like zero intention of playing it again.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 19:47:02 2020 No.7162993 >>7162989 Bummer. I’m going to give it another go after this movie, just for you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 20:16:03 2020 No.7163049 >>7161716 Did you say another broken anime fuckboy swordsman? Here ya go little buddy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 20:17:22 2020 No.7163053 File: 89 KB, 1331x537, 1540068059801.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Half-Life is shit

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 20:22:51 2020 No.7163071

>>7163053
This guy is legit retarded. You're a hero because you freed the vorts, and stopped the nihilanth. Everyone believes them because they fight against the combine with the rebels, who are led by the only people who know what the fuck is going on - the remaining lambda team (hence the symbol being used - not the black mesa logo, idiot). Blah blah blah that's enough I have to eat supper

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 20:24:28 2020 No.7163075 >>7163053 Stop imitating me faggot

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 20:38:11 2020 No.7163103
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>>7163075
Fuck off you LARPing piece of shit. You admitted you actually love Half-Life. You may have made the fuck up which gave birth to this but you aren't fit to wear the mantle. There is a new Alf in town, one who means what he says and everyone, even you, KNEEL and drink my KNOB.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 20:40:55 2020 No.7163107 >>7163103 Why are you posting screencaps from redditors lol?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 20:42:18 2020 No.7163110 >>7163107 That's from RPGcodex friend

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 20:42:51 2020 No.7163113 >>7163110 the R stands for reddit

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 20:43:19 2020 No.7163116 >>7163103 B-based!?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 20:44:22 2020 No.7163117 >>7163113 Can you refute a single thing he says or just shitpost?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 20:44:52 2020 No.7163120 >>7163110 No it's from wcnews and the same guy was a redditor named arsjac >>/vr/thread/S6838219

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 20:45:34 2020 No.7163121 >>7163120 Irrelevant. Refute his arguments. When you finish that I have more.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 20:46:05 2020 No.7163126 >>7163121 take your meds.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 20:46:38 2020 No.7163127 >>7163117 tf2 heavy voice No!

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 20:47:46 2020 No.7163130 >>7163075 >>7163103 lol cope HL ruined FPS

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 20:47:47 2020 No.7163129 imagine attention whoring on 4chan. Back to forums.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 21:04:13 2020 No.7163164 >>7163049 they're just turning it into gamefaqs the game doomguy's support mostly comes from reddit

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 21:05:49 2020 No.7163167 6 days more for Doom real birthday.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 21:25:55 2020 No.7163196 >>7163167 did marphyblack even brought this up?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 21:28:26 2020 No.7163202 >>7163110 That's even worse than Reddit.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 21:46:03 2020 No.7163228
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Finally beat Plutonia just now. It was...alright, I suppose. The difficulty of it isn't overexaggerated if all you've ever played are the other commercial Doom WADs. The level design is also pretty tight for the most part, but they don't feel very "Doom-y" in layout or looks, though maybe I just don't like the jungle theme.

Still suffers the same problems the other Dooms had in that a solid chunk of the middle maps are pretty weak compared to the rest of the WAD. The midi mod really saves it all, though. I can't imagine playing this with the base Doom 1 and 2 music playing all the time.
Tl;dr It was probably the most cohesive and well made commerical Doom WAD out of the 4, but I still prefer 1 and 2 over it. Fuck TnT, though. That one is just plain garbage for the most part.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 21:49:47 2020 No.7163238 >>7163164 roster shit is probably zoomer containment at this point

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 21:53:43 2020 No.7163254 It's almost 11th and you haven't decided which level from Episode 1 of the original Doom is the best.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 22:08:19 2020 No.7163282 >>7162881 Yeah, cacowards should be on the 17th instead, as that is when registered doom fully came out.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 22:10:20 2020 No.7163289 >>7163282 *16th

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 22:17:10 2020 No.7163303 >>7163254 Of course I have, it's Command Control.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 22:19:36 2020 No.7163309 >>7163303 Toxin Refinery is peak e1 and doesn't have any dumb mazes

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 22:28:07 2020 No.7163343 >>7163289 Correct

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 22:57:49 2020 No.7163472 >>7162660 /vr/ cacowards 2020: 2048 units of /vr/ wins every category.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 23:00:44 2020 No.7163482 >>7160678 >I'm sure if I played them back when they were released I'd be absolutely blown away by them yes anon, the render distance of that game was the thing that blew me away and made me buy a gpu

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 23:05:13 2020 No.7163491 >>7162882 This years cacowards were fine.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 23:07:19 2020 No.7163497 Need a wad with the Jaguar exclusive levels.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 23:08:50 2020 No.7163505 >>7162882 Eviternity would be much better if it didn't have map19.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 23:21:05 2020 No.7163543 >>7163505 Most people consider that level overlong and boring

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 23:28:45 2020 No.7163558 >>7162660 >>7163472 Well, we can have a category named "/vr/ highlights" which just informs general public about locally made projects, and award actual awards to outsiders. Maybe we should even get DBP onto this business as well.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 23:32:17 2020 No.7163569

>>7163505
>>7163543
Not only is it overly long and boring, but the only custom monster it uses is the Annihilator, which was apparently had instances of being stuck in walls in development versions (it has a bigger hitbox than the Baron, the monster it replaces), meaning the authour didnt even design the map with eviternity's custom monsters in mind at all. It also doesn't use much teal, despite the 4th episode's other maps featuring lots of teal. It just feels out of place. Like the author thought it was a community chest style project, and not a wad with actual theming.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 23:35:41 2020 No.7163578 >>7161397 this board is not about retro games anymore, anon

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 23:42:34 2020 No.7163594 >>7163578 yes it is* *if you consider crysis and TF2 retro

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 23:43:16 2020 No.7163595 >>7163594 I don't

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 23:44:39 2020 No.7163603 >>7160335 is there not a single news to post about?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 23:46:02 2020 No.7163605 >>7163603 i guess the cacowards came out

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 23:47:36 2020 No.7163607

>>7163569
>Not only is it overly long and boring, but the only custom monster it uses is the Annihilator, which was apparently had instances of being stuck in walls in development versions (it has a bigger hitbox than the Baron, the monster it replaces), meaning the authour didnt even design the map with eviternity's custom monsters in mind at all.
Thats a good thing, besides the plasma guy eviternity's extra monsters blow.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 23:54:08 2020 No.7163625 >>7161180 >>7161234 https://github.com/TheEnginesOfCreation/EntityPlus https://www.moddb.com/mods/entityplus https://lvlworld.com/search/entityplus

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 23:54:55 2020 No.7163629 >>7163607 >Thats a good thing. If the wad I want to play is Eviternity, then no it fucking isn't.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 00:01:05 2020 No.7163642 File: 34 KB, 1366x768, aa.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] this is what the irish flag will look like in 2022

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 00:01:55 2020 No.7163646 >>7163629 And on top of that, the Annihilator usage in map19 is atrociously bad compared to the rest of the wad. Sometimes you'll get a surprise encounter with one in a tight corridor.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 00:09:14 2020 No.7163656 So I beat Plut earlier, which was my final WAD needed before I felt comfortable moving onto actual fanmade stuff seriously. Which one should I start with?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 00:13:27 2020 No.7163663 >>7161692 ut2004

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 00:15:37 2020 No.7163668 >>7163656 2048 Units of /vr/

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 00:18:06 2020 No.7163675 >>7161692 Killer7

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 00:25:54 2020 No.7163698 >>7163663 not them but im going to play this and judge it here

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 00:27:58 2020 No.7163706

>>7163656
Back To Saturn X E1 & E2
Epic 2
Alien Vendetta (don't play on UV unless you're real good)
Scythe 1, 2 & X
Suspended In Dusk
2048 Units Of /vr/
Bloodstain
Interception
Mutiny (also don't play on UV unless you're seriously hardcore)
Ancient Aliens
Japanese Doom Community Project
Double Impact
Nihility : Infinite Teeth

There's really quite a lot of high quality mapsets out there. If you want something that's much more along the original iwads later, there's quite a trove of stuff for that too.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 00:29:04 2020 No.7163707 >>7163698 what version? it's considerably broken in the current year

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 00:30:47 2020 No.7163710 >>7163707 i'm retracting this because i don't want to deal with the fuckery.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 00:33:55 2020 No.7163719 >>7163706 This isn't meant as some kind of order suggestion or anything, by the way, just pick one of those if you want to.

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 00:33:57 2020 No.7163720

>>7163710
I was just about to say that if you are playing the gog/steam copy, overwrite it with the 3369 patch (not the x64 one)
and do this:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=661109411
that should be enough
if you want to go balls deep:
https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Unreal_Tournament_2004

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 00:35:55 2020 No.7163724 >>7163706 >>7163668 I'm gonna go with Ancient Aliens since that looks the coolest. Gonna be fun to finally play with mouselook on.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 00:36:55 2020 No.7163728 File: 180 KB, 640x448, Robo_10.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What do you guys think of the Sega Saturn's most forgotten FPS, Robotica?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 00:37:24 2020 No.7163732 >>7163728 Never heard of it. How does it play?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 00:38:35 2020 No.7163735 >>7163732 Really well. Here is a great article about it: https://hardcoregamer.com/2014/06/25/morgue-robotica/91020/

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 00:40:57 2020 No.7163750 >>7163728 has CV_11 done a video on it I only like games he plays

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 00:41:06 2020 No.7163751 >>7163724 Have fun! Remember to give our megawad a try later, we're really proud of it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 00:45:47 2020 No.7163769 >>7163751 I will, alongside the weaponset.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 00:46:34 2020 No.7163770 >>7163735 By the looks of it, this game isn't too particularly interesting. I'll give it a pass.

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 00:47:18 2020 No.7163774
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>>7163656
Why do so many people do this? Not saying there is anything wrong with it, but I've seen people over the last years, as well as even on these threads, that believe that they must play Doom I+II, Ultimate Doom, Final Doom, Doom 64, then Sigil before they can finally graduate into the world of user made doom wads. Is there some video out there that tell people this is the path to user wads, or are people intimidated into believing that ever user wad has to be Sunlust tiers of difficulty.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 00:48:20 2020 No.7163775 >>7161953 Sweeney is a fucking billionaire. That is who Epstein's clientele was, the type of people he catered to.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 00:49:50 2020 No.7163781 >>7163774 mostly stupidity yeah, but if you don't get them first you will never go back to the default iwads without exhausting yourself on everything else first. It's taken me like eight years to finally beat doom 2 from start to finish

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 00:56:08 2020 No.7163794
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>>7162660
We had the golden boners twice.
But there's no structure in place for something like that. It was just a regular from back then who did it. Was just for /vr/ projects

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 00:59:37 2020 No.7163802 >>7163774 I did it out of fear of being spoiled for choice and not being able to properly appreciate how far mapmaking and Doom in general has come from the time the original WADs were released. Though the expectation of difficulty is also part of it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 01:00:18 2020 No.7163803 File: 85 KB, 1280x720, Data-Picard-Pogo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7161953 >Fagtron

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 01:04:50 2020 No.7163809 >>7163774 I don't see anything wrong with it, it gives you a great metric to appreciate other wads. Besides, they're good, so they're worth playing first anyway, also, they start easy then get harder, which will acclimate you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 01:38:23 2020 No.7163860 >>7163774 It just makes sense to play the originals first.

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 01:47:47 2020 No.7163875

My least favorite part about Cacowards 2020 is Unity port getting award. Bethesda got so buttmad about Carmack releasing source code they fucking made their own closed-source version of Doom, and they are somehow praised for it? What is wrong with the people?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 01:57:21 2020 No.7163891 >>7162660 Jesus fucking christ no, don't you remember this disaster? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOGRDuY0DFI

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 02:01:34 2020 No.7163897 >>7163720 you dun goofed

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 02:04:42 2020 No.7163903 >>7163775 >is a billionaire >therefore a pedophile literally take your meds, no, I'm not a bot

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 02:06:36 2020 No.7163905 >>7163875 They aren't praised for that, the Unity port has dramatically upped the standard for entry-level dooming (which is good). Dosbox was a shit and don't even pretend otherwise.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 02:06:57 2020 No.7163906 File: 38 KB, 550x550, 1580595324941.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7163897 sorry, I just want more people playing ut2004

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 02:09:11 2020 No.7163910 File: 10 KB, 234x216, 079100784532.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7163906 Treasure your memories.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 02:11:56 2020 No.7163913 >>7163906 sorry anon, you will have to settle for these warframe skins: https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/product/warframe/unreal-tournament-weapon-bundle

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 02:14:16 2020 No.7163915

>>7163706
speaking of which...

i'm one of those anons tying to do a skill progression to actually git gud. i doubt i'll ever be able to beat sunlust, but i can dream.

i just started pistolstart uv scythe 2, and definitely i can understand the love for this wad.

the difficulty really ramps up, though! I'm up to map 32, and I had to do a number of restarts on map 15.

what are everyone's favorite scythe2 maps?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 02:14:46 2020 No.7163917 >>7163913 I've never played Warframe, is it any good?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 02:15:02 2020 No.7163918 >>7163913 I hope you step on a lego

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 02:19:04 2020 No.7163926 File: 130 KB, 962x692, 1537726377910.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7163794 i cant believe i missed my chances to make innuendos on 'golden boners'

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 02:19:34 2020 No.7163929 >>7163918 bit rude >>7163917 no idea, anon, but I did like previous digital extremes games like pariah and warpath

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 02:33:24 2020 No.7163961 File: 93 KB, 310x440, d104c1ba3891571b0dbcb504e928301ffb05e308bfdddcd3d8637fc1348a5c39.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7163917 Your enjoyment of this game heavily depends on whether you have Jewish ancestry.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 02:43:10 2020 No.7163981 >>7163913 This is a slap in the face of the ut community lol, who am I kidding?, there is no community

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 02:45:56 2020 No.7163984

>>7163875
What the fuck are you even talking about? The source code for Doom was released back in like 1997, when Bethesda was still just a small time dev, it'd make no fucking sense for them to be mad about that.
The real reason they put out the port was because it was an easy buck to make, just port and publish it on consoles. When people complained (which they did, a lot, and rightfully), they probably realized that they could see a whole lot more sales by fixing it up to be authentic, which likely wasn't very expensive for them to do either, and that the PR of "this port is good" was good advertising through word of mouth.

However, the award if anything is for guys like Sponge and the other guys who actually do the work on the port, because they have done a good job making an accurate and supported port widely available on current consoles and on PC. For just normalfags to see on a digital store frontpage and grab for a couple of bucks, and not have the shitty experience with just a prepackaged DosBox or most of the previous 21st century ports which were awful, I think that warrants some praise.
Could it be a little better though? Yeah, I think so, but they're still working on it, an update is on the way, and all the extra mapsets you get as a free bonus (and which they continue to add new ones to every now and then), means you're actually getting a lot of quality video game for a low price, and again, very widely available.

I think it's better than what Nintendo is currently doing in terms of rereleasing their old titles.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 02:47:09 2020 No.7163990 >>7163984 >What the fuck are you even talking about? Standard cumbrain behavior to bait people.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 02:47:37 2020 No.7163992 >>7163990 What the fuck are YOU talking about?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 02:50:43 2020 No.7163998 >>7163992 I'm talking about that guy is posting stupid shit to get people to reply to him.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 02:50:43 2020 No.7164000 File: 6 KB, 204x220, 5C926552-F834-4C70-9D72-A3DE68214A76.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7163750 nice bait but it's sad theres so many retards actually like this >i need eceleb to give me greenlight before i touch a game

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 02:55:00 2020 No.7164006 >>7163875 The reason they made their own port, instead of using a source port, is because the GPL license is not compatible with releasing on closed environments such as consoles. Exceptions can be made, but the hassle isnt usually worth it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 03:13:21 2020 No.7164030 >>7163926 post Daina lewds on booru im begging you

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 03:21:06 2020 No.7164042 >>7163228 >The level design is also pretty tight for the most part, but they don't feel very "Doom-y" in layout or looks, though maybe I just don't like the jungle theme. Same. Fucking boring ass wad.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 04:16:10 2020 No.7164101 File: 12 KB, 67x55, Donotlewd.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7164030 nah have em here in an album instead https://imgur.com/a/zGL0PWh

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 04:20:43 2020 No.7164103 File: 1.46 MB, 640x360, bless.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7164101

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 04:21:55 2020 No.7164105
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>>7163906
UT2004 had some nice ass custom player models

I remember seeing a lot of those rpg invasion servers last i checked. people played so long they got to waves where you step outside for one second as a newbie and you explode instantly. Memories

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 04:39:52 2020 No.7164128 >>7164101 finally the console pic

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 04:41:58 2020 No.7164130 >>7164105 >UT2004 had some nice ass custom player models Where? I can't see her ass, I can only see underboob. I was promised nice ass.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 04:58:07 2020 No.7164137 >>7164130 Seconding.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 06:07:08 2020 No.7164205 >>7164105 >nice ass custom player models >hand clips into weapon

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 06:29:27 2020 No.7164234
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>>7163915
Map25. These days I prefer short maps, and map25 is enormous, so if I were to replay Scythe2 I might pick a new favorite map. Scythe2 was one of the very first pwads I ever played, and the epic scale of map25 left a tremendous impression on me, and perhaps because it's so long and I spent so much time on it, it is the Scythe2 map that I remember the most vividly. (As an aside, the reason I prefer short maps is: I can play without using saves, the MIDI gets old after about 5-8 minutes, and because if you want a long-level experience you can just play an episode of short levels.)

I'm not sure if you're also trying to play saveless, but you won't be able to beat Scythe2 saveless on UV (yet) so don't worry. If you see a level you really like and want to grind out a deathless run on it, go for it, but don't feel like you MUST.

Map26 WILL filter you on UV, so I recommend this approach: try to beat map26 with a pistol-start and no-saves on skill 1. If you liked the map, try again on skill 2 and 3 and so on, otherwise, just move on to the next map.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 06:29:35 2020 No.7164235 >>7164205 It should be clipping into her bunghole, if you catch my drift.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 06:30:49 2020 No.7164237 >>7163917 Only if you can convince people to play it with you. The core gameplay is pretty fun, but the grind is a nightmare without help.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 06:44:12 2020 No.7164249 >>7164235 no, please elaborate

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 06:51:18 2020 No.7164257 >>7163875 >Bethesda got so buttmad about Carmack releasing source code they fucking made their own closed-source version of Doom, and they are somehow praised for it? Any port for consoles needs to be closed-source.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 06:52:38 2020 No.7164258 >>7164249 Anal masturbation.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 07:04:54 2020 No.7164273 >>7164042 I don't get how Plutonia's layouts wouldn't feel doomy, when like half of them literally use doom 1 and 2 levels as a base for ideas.

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 07:29:13 2020 No.7164314

>>7164273
Not enough tech bases or mazes. Plut rooms tend to be a bunch of arenas mashed together with bridges/trapped hallways in between. Impossible Mission(mainly the starting area and slime room) was the only Plutonia map that really felt like something you'd see in Doom 1 or 2.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 08:28:09 2020 No.7164379 >>7164314 >Not enough tech bases or mazes. Doom 2 barely had any of those either

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 10:01:17 2020 No.7164502

>>7161843
I agree with you 100%. It was so cringey seeing people praise moronic retards like Major Arlene and Bridgeburner. Fucking disgusting and stupid mappers who think it is okay and acceptable to camouflage garbage and abysmal gameplay with some nice "jaw-dropping" architecture, which is not even good anyways. It's a shame that pathetic wastes of sperm like these are being praised so much nowadays, they are literal tumors in the mapping community, and they need to be removed.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 10:04:50 2020 No.7164508 >>7164502 Is that you, S'Arais?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 10:08:12 2020 No.7164516 >>7164502 Personal history?

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 10:08:15 2020 No.7164517

>>7164508
No, I have a brain. All I am saying is that these two retards I mentioned are literally bastardizing the classic Doom experience and turning it into senseless, brainless killing that turns boring 10 seconds in. Where's the puzzles? The navigating? The getting lost and having to read your map and saying "Oh, this is where I go!"? The proper item and monster placement? I swear Xaser Acheron is one of the only few remaining mappers without any trace of Down Syndrome, and that sucks.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 10:10:07 2020 No.7164523 >>7164502 >>7164517 Be the change you want to see then. Make maps you want to play, if you make it, they will come. I do the same thing with gameplay mods, I make stuff I want to play.

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 10:13:03 2020 No.7164527

>>7164523
I can't make a change when 95% of the community is hellbent on "MOAR SLAUGHTERWADS, MOAR OF THEM!" A large part of the community (mostly cock-thirsting faggots) shitted on Romero's "SIGIL" for not having a single slaughtermap in it. You make a vanilla map nowadays and you get mostly ignored unless the monster is more than 500. Having two cancers like Arlene and Bridgeburner in the mapping scene only makes things worse.

Seeing what they shit nowadays makes me want to play Christen David Klie's maps until I go fucking blind.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 10:14:23 2020 No.7164528 >>7164527 It doesn't happen overnight. It has to be a slow burn, and you can still cause ripple effects. Besides, making content you want to see is infinitely more gratifying than sitting here complaining about people.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 10:15:32 2020 No.7164529 >>7164527 >>7164517 I don't like slaughter but you sound like a tedious fag.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 10:16:15 2020 No.7164530 >>7164527 Well then just continue bitching here, we love it

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 10:17:19 2020 No.7164532

>>7164528
There has been many, many attempts at reviving the classic "vanilla" feeling that encompasses everything I have mentioned. I really don't get any passion from playing the stuff I make because I don't feel the feeling of "surprise" since I know exactly where everything is.

>>7164529

I'd recommend you kill yourself, but you sound too retarded to do so.

>>7164530

I'll do so then.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 10:20:08 2020 No.7164539 >>7164532 Disappointing, really. These threads need more people who want to actually do something rather than just bitch and shitpost.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 10:22:23 2020 No.7164545 >>7164517 You're right that a lot of these wads are style over substance. But people are allowed to make their wads however they want dude. There's plenty of traditional wads being made too.

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 10:24:29 2020 No.7164549

>>7161843
>You faggots don't deserve mapsets like NRFTL or Sigil, which showed you the what to do.
Those two are good if all you want is just old school iwad-esque doom gameplay. But after playing Doom wads for over 20 years, I appreciate that the community isn't sticking to just that formula anymore

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 10:32:10 2020 No.7164567 >>7164539 I'll be making more maps and post them here soon, probably. Once I'm done with Hellevator. Which outside maps 27 and 28 is not slaughter at all.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 10:32:26 2020 No.7164569 >>7164529 This. Slaughter wads aren't my thing, but even I can recognise that they aren't the only wads that exist anymore. Even in the cacowards this year, there was plenty of non-slaughter wads in it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 10:33:36 2020 No.7164570 >>7164567 Good, you keep up the good work.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 10:44:57 2020 No.7164595 >>7163905 >Dosbox was a shit and don't even pretend otherwise. >>7163984 >shitty experience with just a prepackaged DosBox Cringe.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 10:49:30 2020 No.7164609 >>7164595 DosBox can't fix problems like the fact that the choking hands in Blood are tied to CPU timing, a proper port or sourceport is always superior to DosBox.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 10:51:52 2020 No.7164613 >>7164609 You know you can set CPU speed manually right?

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 10:51:59 2020 No.7164614

>>7164609
You've got a point, you need at least one hardcore purist in your maniacally Bethesda-loving ranks. I mean Bethesda is alright, they supposedly try to let id be id and do their own thing, but I can't help but suspect that public image. They claim to do a lot of things to win public support. Any corporation or large business does, it's part of selling the product.
So maybe it's just purely paranoia about corporations ruining everything. It's happened to a lot of things, and as everything in the world becomes more like a massive monopoly battle than a free market, we're kind of getting the short end of the stick as consumers. The filth of the gaming industry has infiltrated Doom, make no mistake... and I just don't trust it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 10:53:57 2020 No.7164620 File: 5 KB, 640x450, fdoom.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7164595 based dosbro

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 10:54:26 2020 No.7164621 >>7164620 dosbox =/= dos

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 10:58:57 2020 No.7164629

>>7164609
You understand that we're talking about entry-level. Unity port is undeniably better than the DosBox offering in terms of first impressions.
If you think a first-timer needs to tinker and work around limitations in order to play Doom in 2020 that's some sekret klub shit.

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 11:02:46 2020 No.7164639

>>7164613
Yeah, so slow down your game to deal with this one poor design decision.

>>7164614
The new port can't run Boom format maps, let alone anything as exotic as GzDoom stuff, which would be years of work to write compat for, I don't see it overtaking much in terms of modding.
For being just an entrylevel way for a normalfag to plain grab it from any visible place and for cheap, and play what's a very authentic Doom experience, complete with a lot of bonus maps, all for cheap, I think it's pretty good.

The old DosBox packaged releases of Doom for instance don't have any proper way to turn off mouse movement if you want to use mouseturning, which honestly is something the base game should really have let you do without having to result to exploits or novert, along with autorun.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 11:08:36 2020 No.7164648 >>7164609 I haven't played Blood, but Doom played fine with DOSBox.

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 11:09:46 2020 No.7164654

>>7164639
If you sit down, pour yourself a drink, and think about it for awhile, you'll realize that their intent isn't as benevolent as you suggest it is.

They already had the port for a long time now... they already used it for semi-nefarious purposes. And now it's available on PC for free. It's like Microsoft making their Edge browser a free, undeletable app for Windows 10, they WANT you to use it. And hell, in a few years, taking the wad out of the folder might just be a felony for tampering with commercial software, lol. PIRACY!!!

DOSBox is a decent enough port of DOS, in my opinion... its free, I use it for a lot of things, and it doesn't give me any arguments. And for any downfall, frankly that's just one more reason to brush off the port they gave you and switch to a dedicated Doom sourceport, freeing your mind, lol. I see literally no reason why this unity port needed to become the standard for the Steam version. *shrugs* Of course you can run wads on it easier than DOSbox, which is worth mentioning, but again, there are better ports for that. Easy to download and use ports. If you have the dedication to love oldschool Doom, it's not much of a stretch to suggest that you can figure out how to download a superior sourceport than DOSbox. In fact you might say it almost encouraged people to look for greener pastures if they wanted to play wads. And I'm proud of these people for taking that extra step into the computer abyss that frightens mere mortals, lol.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 11:11:35 2020 No.7164658 >>7164654 >DOSBox is a decent enough port of DOS, in my opinion Technically DOSBox is an emulator.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 11:19:10 2020 No.7164674 >Field too long bros...

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 11:21:19 2020 No.7164682

>>7164654
>If you sit down, pour yourself a drink, and think about it for awhile, you'll realize that their intent isn't as benevolent as you suggest it is.
Where did I insinuate that anywhere?

>semi-nefarious purposes.
Such as?

>And now it's available on PC for free. It's like Microsoft making their Edge browser a free, undeletable app for Windows 10, they WANT you to use it. And hell, in a few years, taking the wad out of the folder might just be a felony for tampering with commercial software, lol
.wad files aren't exactly difficult to source or share, I don't see how that makes a difference, we share commercial .wads (and games) right in this thread, and you don't see a paddy wagon pulling up in your drive way.
I don't think the port is published out of the goodness of Zenimax's hearts, but I also just think that to them, it's cheap PR and an easy way to make a little bit of cash flow, which isn't a hard sell to most corporations.

>DOSBox is a decent enough port of DOS, in my opinion... its free, I use it for a lot of things, and it doesn't give me any arguments.
The same can be said for Chocolate Doom and Crispy Doom. If you're emotionally attached to DOS, sure, whatever, but it's hardly the best.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 11:31:59 2020 No.7164696 >>7164674 just make two posts

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 11:32:17 2020 No.7164697 >>7163228 > tony hawks pro skater 3 right in the middle

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 11:35:26 2020 No.7164702

>>7164682
>and you don't see a paddy wagon pulling up in your drive way.
No, but what you're doing is a federal crime, punishable (at least in the US) with a mandatory minimum sentence of a quarter million fine and 20 years in jail. The law isn't "enforced" so it doesn't "feel real" but if they decided to do a crackdown, which they totally could, a lot of people you and I know would be going to jail for a long time.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 11:40:00 2020 No.7164707 >>7164702 That'd be a lot of police and legal resources to put to play for a crumbling empire.

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 11:41:57 2020 No.7164713

>>7164707
You're right. It won't happen on a massive scale. But it's one of those things where if a person is doing something that the gov doesn't like but isn't technically illegal, they could use that. Like how Al Capone got busted for tax evasion because they couldn't actually pin him for the murders. Political dissidence can't be made illegal without public outcry. Dissidents pirate movies. Blacks/weed all over again.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 11:42:38 2020 No.7164716 File: 87 KB, 680x953, 00b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7164697 >"Ameobaaaa Amaeobaaaa Ameobaaaa"

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 11:49:04 2020 No.7164734 New thread >>7164709 >>7164709 >>7164709

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 11:51:05 2020 No.7164737 File: 84 KB, 640x400, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] DOSBox CAN be good, but the pre-packaged setup with Doom has a tiny window with the wrong aspect ratio and you need to know how to configure DOSBox to fix it

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