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[Anonymous No.7140507]

DOOM THREAD / 90s FPS THREAD - Last thread >>7133314

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE/HERETIC/HEXEN/ETC
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other 90s FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Thief, Deus Ex)
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz
-Album of infographics with setup information and user-made content recommendations

Same thing, but in video format:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ietb4JwaaXA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGj4gXyCzg0

IWADs and more (>6 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake Trilogy (2020-11): https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhU
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Doom, Quake, Douk, Blood, and more)
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA
More /vr/ shooters
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ppJLNvQEPfP4FsOCQBak1TMvPUIswCac
Doom Shovelware
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Xy-YDWytlEa2CS9rit-PUgcieh4MrGzR
Fileplanet archives
https://www.quaddicted.com/files/mirrors/ftp.planetquake.com/
Doom RPG series
https://mega.nz/#!Y7AjEawA!Ta2RQuOC235v0wQoLtVR7HJoN7bsiawkujSlq8A1Da4
4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games (pre-configured):
https://mega.nz/folder/CldGAahb#yn_8LkRHraywPgKJMp5pqA

== INFO/LINKS ==

OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/yzwgaLp7

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
https://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS

[Anonymous No.7140515]

=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
500ml of /vr/
BETA: https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/7041037/#7043379
https://discord.gg/F968y8Wj4x

=== NEWS ===
[12-03] Gothic Library DX for Cryptic Passage, restored based on beta
http://www.blood.freeminded.de/index.php?section=maps&id=624

[12-03] Sandy does a tour of MAP16 of Doom2 but in real life
https://youtu.be/g0DVwhy3R3k

[12-03] Zero Master does Doom II MAP18 in 12 seconds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDaakoJ15bc

[11-30] Hellevator public beta (Boom speedmapping)
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/117072

[11-30] DSDA-Doom 0.7.0 (PRBoom+ fork with extra tools)
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/118074

[11-29] FutureShock32 updated (UI, server browser)
fb.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=2701770990088559&id=1556221081310228

[11-29] Updated: Champions to 2.7, Critical Shots to 1.6 >>7128308
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=60456
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=68078

[11-27] Dark forces 2 received a well made HD remaster pack
https://www.moddb.com/mods/jkgfxmod/news/jkgfxmod1-released

[11-24] Speedmap Snack Pack for Quake 1 released. Runs on the Copper mod.
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/snack.html

[11-20]Nightdive working on a Powerslave: EX PC and console enhanced edition
https://twitter.com/ThrowbackCorp/status/1329889365447897091?s=19

[11-19]POWERSLAVE: Exhumed is finally commercially released on GOG (DOS version only)
https://www.gog.com/game/powerslave

[11-18] Doom Free Roam pack, turns Doom 1 and 2 into a single istance open world game
https://www.moddb.com/mods/doom-free-roam-pack/news/doom-2-open-world-maps

[11-18] Eternity Engine 4.01 was released last month and it flew under everyone's radar.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/117429-eternity-engine-40100-tyrfing/

[11-18]Daerik does World 1st Sunlust D2All-UVMax
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/807388877
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcXHg-Wu36A

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[Anonymous No.7140562]

Which guy is getting the best head?

[Anonymous No.7140573]

So today I played Parallel Dimension, a wad from 1998. I had played this as a kid, and liked it then, but then had pretty much forgotten it for years, since it was never mentioned in Ten Years Of Doom. Back in the day it was one of those wads whose website was hosted by Doomworld. It was also one of the first wads (if not the first) to demonstrate the Boom engine and what was possible with it. The wad itself is replacement to second episode of Ultimate Doom, but holy fuck it is challenging. A bit unfair even at times. It doesn't have the modern fun challenge, but the old fuck you challenge from the trying times. Nonetheless it's still a good wad, and a classic. It should have deserved a cacoward, being an unique gem and notable Boom wad.

[Anonymous No.7140578]

Ok, we need a change of subject from that shit.

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?random

>click link to get a random upload from idgames
>play it (as far as you want anyway)
>no need to finish it if you don't like it - it's supposed to be fun
>take at least one screenshot
>post a link to it here in reply afterwards
>tell us what you thought about it
>if you get a DM map, texture pack, or utility, etc, reroll

[Anonymous No.7140592]

>>7140562
Ranger!

[Anonymous No.7140593]

Dog Mode appears as a flashing bone in a capsule. When picked up, you turn into a dog. This is a good thing, as you become invincible, can maul enemies to death by jumping on and biting them at the same time, shoot a powerful shockwave called the BarkBlast, and go into areas that would otherwise be impossible to enter. Dog Mode lasts 30 seconds.

In order to use the BarkBlast, you need to hold down the fire key for a few seconds. After a few seconds, a shockwave will automatically be released. While the key is being held down, you’ll hear barking that starts out slow, but quickly becomes fast. The faster the bark is, the closer it’ll be until the BarkBlast is released.

Areas that can only be accessed as a dog are marked with a wall that has a small opening at the bottom.

Dog Mode only appears in the registered version of the game, Dark War.

[Anonymous No.7140613]

Just beat Strife.
No idea why I haven't played it before, but I was blown away. Can't believe how underrated it is, it's like a Looking Glass version of doom.

[Anonymous No.7140614]

>>7140562
Guy on left. The one of the right looks like he is up to something bad like peeing in her mouth. The guy in the center looks more like he’s in pain like his penis just got bit.

[Anonymous No.7140683]

>>7140578
I'll do one.

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/g-i/gothic

A 2004 level called just Gothic. It's a simple and straightforward enough level, though it's dark as fuck, so I'm glad I have a flashlight. Just plays D_RUNNIN by default, so I just IDCLEV'd 28, which ended up feeling suitable in mood, made the level a little spookier.

There's not a lot to say about it, but it does give you reasonable amounts of health (actually, too much health, given that you can get a Megasphere soon after you can get a Soulsphere), while keeping you on a tight leash for ammo.

[Anonymous No.7140693]

Encountered this on an elevator. I tried fiddling with my graphics a bunch, but it stayed put. I'm not sure what it is, I'll have to go poke into the .wad and see if there's something fucked up with the BSP tree or something, but it doesn't look like anything that happens when that's broken, from my experience. The sector was fine functionally.

I really hope it's not indicative of a hardware problem.

[Anonymous No.7140695]

The ammo starvation would seem to be pretty deliberate, as to make you get into a Berserk boxing match with an arch-vile at the end. Not much else to say, but it wasn't bad.

[Anonymous No.7140702]

Is Shadow Warrior harder than Duke3d and Blood? I'm trying it for the first time and getting my ass handed to me even on second difficulty level.
Could be that douk&blood are only easy for me because i grew up playing them and i know how they work and what to expect? But mind you, i never played Doom and Quake1 as a kid, yet i was able to just pick em up and play recently without problems on uv and nightmare respectively.

[Anonymous No.7140703]

>>7140693
Nothing about it looks out of the ordinary in editors. Man, please just be a GzDoom bug.

[Anonymous No.7140707]

Is Quake 1.5 dead?

[Anonymous No.7140712]

>>7140578
Great first roll, I don't even. I know it's a DM level, but this is too good to not post

PHM.WAD (Pretty Hate Machine)
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/deathmatch/p-r/phm

[Anonymous No.7140720]

Playthrough video of map21 of 1994 tune-up community project is up. A large, nonlinear map allegedly based on the layout of Ultima Underworld.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51WFkstXago
And the original.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=allkR-KB5No

[Anonymous No.7140725]

>MFW I prefer Quake II over I, despite being a slightly inferior game.
Could not care less about that Lovecraft wankery. Give me body horror all day.

[Anonymous No.7140746]

>>7140562
Doomguy: Gawrgura
Ranger: Okayu
BJ: Korone

[Anonymous No.7140749]

>>7140578
ShmoLand Doom
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/s-u/shmo10
Absolute mess, map03 isn't even finishable because of a missing blue key, levels themselves are terrible, random silly sound replacements. Even by 96 standards it's bad.

[Anonymous No.7140751]

>>7140725
I like all the three Quakes. :3

[Anonymous No.7140764]

>>7140725
I used to love body horror until /pol/ tranny threads

[Anonymous No.7140772]

>>7140725
I too prefer Shadow Warrior over Blood, despite latter being the objectively better game.

[Anonymous No.7140773]

Recommend me WADs with good bosses.

[Anonymous No.7140776]

>>7140764
The Strogg is the advanced stages of trandom. It is a cautionary tale of a world in which body modification became the norm and how everything else was left to decay in negligence over the individuals unending narcissism. This of course led to war.

[Anonymous No.7140781]

>>7140578
Ezam of Fear
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/d-f/ezam
Maez itself isn't even a maez, key is hidden behind the first pillar, but holy shit this description

> You are in a scary maez. There are many walls. The music is scary. If you shoot your shotgun, your servants will hunt you down in seconds. The exit is in front of you, you search the maez for the key. Im sorry for not releasing a doom level for a long time because of problems in thailand with people with guns and I now have a new computer because my old computer broke down early in year and I had to save one and got a new computer for 2000 baht and has nice black speakers with a wicked subwoofer good for techno. But anyway I hope you enjoy this scary level its scary like that ghost forest wad made by some guy. I try my best to make shore that that are not many deadends so it will be easier to beat level for anyone impashient (hope I spell it right, my english not that good).

[Anonymous No.7140796]

Why does he look so much like a registered sex offender?

[Anonymous No.7140803]

>>7140796
He's not called BJ for nothing

[Anonymous No.7140805]

>>7140773
Fricassee MAP02, make sure to use a vanilla compatible port (PrBoom+, Crispy, etc.)
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/d-f/fricasse

[Anonymous No.7140808]

>>7140796
Because you're trying to convert a cartoon image to resemble a photo.

[Anonymous No.7140810]

>>7140796
This guy looks like a fucking bro who's absolutely cool to hang out with.

[Anonymous No.7140818]

>>7140796
To be fair it does a pretty good job, focusing on proportions rather than what the human mind reads as implied muscle structure, while ignoring caricature...
It's neat. But fuckin wrong.

[Anonymous No.7140824]

>>7140781
>because of problems in thailand with people with guns
>got a new computer for 2000 baht and has nice black speakers with a wicked subwoofer good for techno
Based priorities

[Anonymous No.7140836]

>>7140803
I woke up the house from laughing.

[Anonymous No.7140838]

>>7140578
Rocker1.wad
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/p-r/rocker1
a grand total of two buttons in this one, everything else was guesswork backtracking after reaching the key doors and looking for platforms that lowered when crossing a line. Just a bunch of corridors full of shotgunners and imps, but it wasn't terrible.

[Anonymous No.7140861]

>>7140573
Based and historicalpilled, thank you.

[Anonymous No.7140867]

>>7140593
Stop it, Oscurido ratfuck

[Anonymous No.7140868]

>>7140867
I KEK'D!

[Anonymous No.7140874]

>>7140702
No, it's not just you, alot of Shadow Warriors hitscanner enemies cannot be stunned at all whereas even Cultists in Blood can be. It's easily the hardest Build engine game of the big 3.

[Anonymous No.7140887]

>>7140702
You have what >>7140874 said about the way they shoot at you, then you have to worry about coolies and shadow ninjas. Make no mistake: It's fun as hell and you have a kickass arsenal to deal with them all, but they really throw some shit at you.

[Anonymous No.7140893]

>>7140887
I find myself playing shadow warrior more like call of duty than a build game because of shit like this, the wide open corridors full of enemies tucked in little side slots. Even blood didn't cause me to play as slowly for most of it. That one early level on the docks where everything starts scrambling around immediately after you fire your first shot had me saving every few steps because of the constant corner shots.

[Anonymous No.7140896]

>>7140578
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/d-f/demblues
Demonblues, by Memfis. It's an alright level, would be fine if you could slot it into some community project somewhere. Has some of those gothic textures.

[Anonymous No.7140902]

>>7140896
Level starts off by basically ambushing the fuck out of you, and then you gotta scramble. Tough, but I enjoyed it, and short enough that being killed and starting over isn't annoying.

[Anonymous No.7140907]

>>7140887
>122-70-0 in less than a nanoticond or a subtonk
i don't even

[Anonymous No.7140908]

>>7140902
Here's an Imp being exploded by a Hell Knight after he was done killing me.

[Anonymous No.7140914]

recommend me some good techbase-themed wads
Im so fucking bored

[Anonymous No.7140968]

>>7140914
BTSX E1 has some cool techbases.

[Anonymous No.7140997]

Unrelated: I think the current release of BuildGDX is broken in some places.

[Anonymous No.7141008]

>>7140914
Suspended In Dusk

[Anonymous No.7141019]

>>7140593
Why do you do this? It isn't funny, it isn't cute, and anyone who has played that mediocre game would know the shit you spam anyway.

[Anonymous No.7141025]

>>7140702
Blood is harder than Shadow Warrior is harder than Duke Nukem 3D.

[Anonymous No.7141034]

>>7141025
How did the instant hitscans of the cultists get past quality control?

[Anonymous No.7141037]

>>7141034
It's deliberate, not a flaw.

[Anonymous No.7141038]

>>7140796
This meme has always been rarted. The eyes are too small and too close together, the guy is too fat, and the jaw is all wrong.

[Anonymous No.7141050]

>>7141038
They didn't account for the 1.2x vertical scaling.

[Anonymous No.7141051]

>>7141037
okay but it's really annoying

[Anonymous No.7141053]

>>7141034
I'm guessing because 3D Realms sold it off before it was finished.

[Anonymous No.7141057]

>>7141034
Probably through lower difficulties tanking their accuracy, and they're as easily steered as enforcers.

[Anonymous No.7141059]

>>7140796
He looks autistic

[Anonymous No.7141061]

>>7141050
I guess, but it's more that nothing about the eyes are right. The eyes are too small, the brows are too thick, the guy's cheekbones are nowhere near where BJ's is, and he's too fat to show off any of BJ's bone structure. I'm almost convinced the creator of that image made it to be purposely cringeworthy.

[Anonymous No.7141062]

>>7141053
False

[Anonymous No.7141067]

>>7140796
That's Ben Shapiro

[Anonymous No.7141069]

>>7141061
I think it's just one of those AI upscalers.

[Anonymous No.7141071]

>>7141051
Git gud then? Even untalented fucks like Civvie did it.

[Anonymous No.7141072]

>>7141062
citation? I've always heard that 3DR sold Blood partway thru development to focus on Shadowarrior.

[Anonymous No.7141075]

>>7141069
Yeah, just like Gamepro actually printed shoot the cyberdemon until he dies. It's a troll.

[Anonymous No.7141078]

>>7141069
"AI" is just as good as the data it has been trained with.

[Anonymous No.7141079]

>>7141071
Who's Civvie?

I get it. I blow them up with tnt or lure them round corners and doubleshotty. But it means you have to tiptoe through levels and savescum which is tedious.

[Anonymous No.7141080]

>>7141072
Yeah but nothing about it was unfinished or untested. It was too long in dev for that.

[Anonymous No.7141083]

>>7141080
You are correct, but while I may have implied that what I said was true, not false. I was just taking the piss.

[Anonymous No.7141084]

>>7141079
Some e-celeb on Jewtube who introduced hordes of zoomers and normies to the BUILD games.

[Anonymous No.7141085]

>>7141079
>blow them up or lure them around corners and doubleshotty
Only if you want to.

[Anonymous No.7141086]

>>7141084
well said /vr/o

[Anonymous No.7141092]

>>7141079
You're missing the use of the tommy gun. You don't need to savescum at all, just prefire around corners. If nothing's there, you're out just a few bullets out of hundreds, no big loss.

[Anonymous No.7141110]

Get me some good chaingun carnage screenshots!

[Anonymous No.7141119]

[Anonymous No.7141124]

>>7141119
That's badass

[Anonymous No.7141128]

Reminder that you can use the third person view in Blood to peek around corners.
It's not a cheat.

[Anonymous No.7141137]

>>7141085
how did you get that hud in blood?

[Anonymous No.7141143]

>>7141137
I'm using GDX

[Anonymous No.7141149]

>>7141057
Ironically doom's hitscanners are way more accurate than blood's.
>>7141128
God will judge you in the end.

[Anonymous No.7141163]

>>7141143
what is GDX? is that a new version of dosbox?

[Anonymous No.7141173]

Had a strange dream where I was watching someone play doom coop using the skin I like in a youtube video or something. I was happy to see it since I'm pretty much the only person who uses it, so it was a bummer to wake up and realize it was probably just a dream.

Felt like a weird doom dream to have overall. Usually dont ever remember my dreams in general!

[Anonymous No.7141182]

>>7140773
Doom 64, straight up.

[Anonymous No.7141186]

>>7141163
BuildGDX. It's a source port for BUILD games written in Java.

[Anonymous No.7141205]

>>7141186
I was not aware the source code for blood was released, sorry for my ignorance I was without a functional pc for almost 8 years due to being homeless, last I heard there was discussions about releasing the source code.

[Anonymous No.7141209]

>>7141205
It still hasn't, but the guy developing GDX reverse engineered it and used some leaked alpha code to get it as close as possible.

[Anonymous No.7141213]

The statusbar for AD on QSS keeps getting all crunched up into itself whenever I try to run on 640X480 resolution. Anyway to fix this?

[Anonymous No.7141220]

>>7141209
ooooh cool, but legally dangerous. gotta link?

[Anonymous No.7141223]

>>7140908
Wow, what an encounter

[Anonymous No.7141227]

>>7141220
http://m210.duke4.net/
He's worked out support for almost all the Build games at this point. IIRC he's Russian so he doesn't have any fucks to give about legality.

[Anonymous No.7141257]

>>7141227
cool the only BUILD game I still like is Blood, Duke 3D is just kinda the standard and SW just feels like nip duke nukem, blood however is something special, thanks.

[Anonymous No.7141271]

>>7141149
Thats because they actually line up their shots, duh. That said, is there any info on how the damage calculations work in Blood? Everyone knows about the d8 system in Doom and the d4 system in Strife, but I have a hard time finding much about it in Blood (or most build games, for that matter)

[Anonymous No.7141281]

>>7141257
Duke is the standard for a reason. His game kicks ass.

[Anonymous No.7141294]

>>7141281
Of the main build games, I actually like Duke the least. Not even anything against it, since it still feels great, but for some reason even the things that piss me off to no end in Blood and SW (and even Ion Maiden, for that matter) don't detract enough to take away from what they do really well. Duke is solid, but I feel a lot less "just one more level" from it compared to the others, if that makes sense.

[Anonymous No.7141302]

>>7141294
duke's levels are packed, way denser with secrets and variety than the other games. Almost exhaustingly so.

[Anonymous No.7141316]

>>7141302
They also have a lot of sharp verticality at times, which is something that I feel is bad in Build games. Take Blood for example: Most of the time there is a height difference, you can usually address it from distance as well, making much less situations where you need to sharply aim up or down. Since sprite bilboarding makes the sprites poorly represent the actors collision box when warped on vertices, this makes gunplay feel much more accurate. Even with enemies like gargoyles, they (eventually) come down to your level to fight: They never throw their bones downward or anything that would force you to fight them at a sharp vertical difference.

I tend to use the jetpack a lot just for trying to match height in gunplay vs some enemies. Duke really wanted to show off how much more vertical it could be compared to Wolf/Doom/everything before it, but Blood really learned how to use that verticality properly. SW just kinda sits in the middle, and IF takes a lot of Bloods lessons in its design as well.

[Anonymous No.7141321]

>>7141281
It used too, I find it....boring nowadays.

[Anonymous No.7141341]

>>7141321
Same. Maybe because I played it so fucking much as a teenager when it was new. Countless hours. I didn't get to play Blood or Shadow Warrior till years later so they still feel fresher even though I've played fucktons of them now as well. Duke almost feels like the introduction to Build FPS, where the uninitiated embark. Blood and Shadow Warrior feel like much harder and more complex games begat by Duke's lead.

[Anonymous No.7141352]

>>7141341
Duke's personality and one liners will always be best though - Weyte comes close with Caleb though. No one will ever top Duke's delivery of "Eat shit and die." It's the text message ring tone on my phone.

[Anonymous No.7141361]

>>7141223
I've had much worse encounters with imps, Doom 2's own Map 12 has you get gangbanged by four of them at once, they're right on top of you after you step through that teleporter.

[Anonymous No.7141365]

>>7141316
yeah, some levels are painful with how much height difference there is. e1l5 and the submarine level really are a pain to play after your first run through, e2 and 3 stop that shit thank goodness

[Anonymous No.7141369]

>Spoils your secrets
Nothing personnel kid

[Anonymous No.7141373]

>>7141352
I genuinely love Duke's killing lines
>Eat shit and die.
>Die, you son of a bitch!
>I'll rip off your head and shit down your neck!
Duke is a really ridiculous and silly character, but he's also legit cool at the same time.

[Anonymous No.7141376]

Anyone here played the Operation Body Count Doom TC? It's actually really fucking good.

[Anonymous No.7141380]

>>7141369
this really is a pointless fucking powerup, the only secrets you actually need help with are the convoluted linedef trigger ones.

[Anonymous No.7141387]

>>7141373
Same. The level of camp in JSJ's deliveries is perfect, and their usages in the campaign are great. Wang will always be my favorite because of how fucking ridiculous he is, Caleb has some stinkers but the rest vary from great to amazing. Then there's Shelly. Poor fuckin Shelly. like 3 good lines in the whole game, and one gets so overused it gets annoying.

[Anonymous No.7141393]

>>7141281
Blood wins out for me simply because I like the sawed-off and Caleb. Duke's game is all around amazing.

[Anonymous No.7141398]

>>7141387
I turn the voice lines off completely for Ion Maiden, I can't stand to fucking play it otherwise.

[Anonymous No.7141405]

>>7141034
>>7141057
>>7141149
>>7141271
IIRC there's also "enemy aggressivness" value that determines certain prperties of attacks (like whether bundle or a single stick of TNT is thrown, and it also influences enemy reaction times, which makes the game a lot easier when you step it down even one notch.

[Anonymous No.7141413]

>>7141398
Its a shame because I don't even really think its the VA's fault, some of her lines are really well delivered. Most of them are just very poorly written, I get that they wanted to parrot some of the idiocy of Duke's lines, but a lot of them come off as far too derivative because of that. "Clean up on isle YOUR ASS" is a good example, its just.... bad. Then you get a few like the quarterback line from Die Hard and it shows that there was potential if they dropped the "Lady-Duke" shit.

[Anonymous No.7141414]

>>7141398
At least her game is great

[Anonymous No.7141425]

>>7141405
Yeah, looking at the custom options in FS shows a lot of variables to their AI, but its hard to say how many of them were hardcoded originally (since FS IS technically a rewrite) I know in BloodGDX you can adjust some of those variables manually as well, but the main issue is the startup, or lack thereof. Aggressiveness is essentially the chance of an enemy entering its attack states vs entering its movement states, while ideally having high aggressiveness paired with a short startup time on attacks is the best way to approach enemy AI (especially hitscanners.) Its also the most logical, since someone with a gun would be quick to attack from a distance, but would also take a moment to line up their shot in some manner.

[Anonymous No.7141430]

>>7141405
I haven't noticed much change to reaction times, but enemy damage, health, numbers, and accuracy are changing through difficulty. That much I can gauge just from the cultists at the start through GDX and dosbox.

[Anonymous No.7141442]

>>7141398
I always wonder how to make a quippy female character without it sounding ultra tryhard. My idea is to go in the extreme opposite direction and make an extremely caring and gentle person without a single hint of irony. Like a sweet old granny has to save the world so she can buy sugar for the cake shes baking for her grandchildren.

>Oh deary me, what a frightening sight.
>If only those alien monster wanted to try my delicious brownies instead of eating the neighbors

[Anonymous No.7141451]

>>7141425
Actually, this just gave me an idea for a minimod, wonder how easy it would be to ZScript: Aggressiveness having a fluid range, where it would be altered by things like the amount of time a target is in LoS, time since last attack, etc. Then, pair it with the spread of weapon fire, having the spread start wide (panic/reaction fire) and having it tighten depending on how long the enemy focuses in its target in between attacks.

I know there are ways of doing most of that manually with tokens and stuff, but I feel like making a universal system that constantly takes all the variables into account could make for some interesting gunplay.

[Anonymous No.7141460]

>>7141294
Imo duke has the most well-designed bestiary & arsenal, but the level design is the weakest. Of course there's amazing levels like Hollywood Holocaust. But there are so many mediocre or plain bad levels, they outweigh the greats. Whereas Blood and Shadow Warrior have impressive level design almost all the way through.

[Anonymous No.7141498]

Is there a greentext document for how to play Half Life's expansion packs?

[Anonymous No.7141559]

>>7141498
-game gearbox
and
-game bshift (or whatever it's called)
in hl.exe shortcut properties
i think that's what i used before i got steam

[Anonymous No.7141612]

Can DeHacked make you start without a pistol?

[Anonymous No.7141617]

Anyone got any good Quake wallpapers? Preferably something beyond just the symbol.

[Anonymous No.7141635]

Someone please tell me which doom source port to install on Linux to get started quickly. I like the idea of vlook but if no one else uses it then I guess I'll follow the fashion

[Anonymous No.7141654]

>>7141635
>I like the idea of vlook but if no one else uses it then I guess I'll follow the fashion
Depends really on how you like to play. The original game isn't designed for it, but the game is also designed to be moddable, and the source code was published for that very reason, so really, you can do what you feel like.

If you want the authentic gameplay and all, and just want to jump in and go, Crispy Doom is a good port, it's just the base game with some lifted limits and quality of life options (double resolution, correct blood splatter color for some monsters, etc). It's worth playing it in its original form, or close to it, just for frame of reference, and it's still really fun that way.
Another option is actually the official new ports, which are mostly very accurate.

Beyond that, you could get GzDoom, and just configure it and mod however you feel like, it really can do anything and everything (except good netplay).

[Anonymous No.7141662]

>>7141635
Doom: Pack II
https://youtu.be/kmkLrkEK424

[Anonymous No.7141693]

>>7140997
>BuildGDX
In what way? I haven't noticed anything.

[Anonymous No.7141751]

HUH

[Anonymous No.7141756]

>>7141751

[Anonymous No.7141763]

>>7141413
They really should've used Robocop, Die Hard, Lethal Weapon or even Dirty Harry for her one liners

[Anonymous No.7141774]

Redpill me on Arcane Dimensions.

[Anonymous No.7141784]

>>7141774
Community mappack that shows off bunches of new enemies and weapons, but the maps are of such quality that nu-id could easily strike a deal with the guys who made it, slap it on Steam tomorrow with tons of promotion, and everyone would be happy about it.

[Anonymous No.7141787]

where can i find the oggs for the dos version of powerslave? the megas didnt have them

[Anonymous No.7141791]

>>7141774
take the blue pill

[Anonymous No.7141792]

>>7141413
It also doesn't help that she's got very little line variety. Duke didn't exactly have an encyclopedia's worth or anything, but he had enough to work with and he was nowhere near as frequent as Shelly.

[Anonymous No.7141795]

>>7140578
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/hexen/j-l/k_d11

Two hubs for Hexen. Typical Hexen switch-hunt gameplay, sometimes it actually gives you hints ("look for a switch outside", "you hear a bridge rise in the distance") but way too often it does that oh so very Hexen thing where pulling a switch or crossing a linedef in a map does something non-obvious in a completely different map. All in all it was okay.

[Anonymous No.7141809]

>>7141787
In the recently added column in the downloads section in the OP you'll find a DOSpack that has them. You can also find them bundled in the Win98 section in that same link: uses pcexhumed by sirlemonhead. Look for Powerslave.7z (also contains Powerslave EX)

[Anonymous No.7141836]

>>7141809
thank you so much, I actually was playing ex but I didn't really like it that much, hoping I'll like powerslave/exhumed more.

[Anonymous No.7141838]

>>7140507
is there a way to play doom maps but with chex quest monsters only? my kid loves chex quest but he is bored of the same maps over and over again

[Anonymous No.7141861]

>>7141836
You're welcome. When you extract the .7z you will see two folders, Powerslave EX and Powerslave PC, in the PC one you will have the option to play the base game, or a community expansion pack called Return to Ruins which i hjghly recommend. If you want to start the exp. pack just double click Return to Ruins.bat

[Anonymous No.7141896]

>>7141414
RR and the expansions are highly enjoyable if you know how to play them.

[Anonymous No.7141901]

>>7140997
For some reason CD Audio in Powerslave doesn't work for me anymore while other games play their music just fine.

[Anonymous No.7141908]

>>7141316
This is such a bullshit criticism. Noone ever complained about "muh funhouse mirrors" before a certain eCeleb thought it up because it's not noticeable. There are also plenty of blood levels such as the hydro plant and auto factory that fit your description.

[Anonymous No.7141910]

>>7141294
I would argue the exact opposite. For me, a single level if Blood or SW can feel like a chore to get through, with many hitscan encounters in samey environments that just drag. but one level of Duke is a blast and makes me want more.

[Anonymous No.7141914]

>>7141908
This.

[Anonymous No.7141919]

>>7141908
I don't know what eceleb you're talking about, but its an issue I've had with the engine (and doom's to a much lesser extent) for decades. collision detection is cubic, while billboard representation is flat. The visual squishing isn't the problem so much as sheer inaccuracy of the collision box as a result. Having enemies both attack and/or have erratic movement when this happens is awful. I'm not going to claim it never happens in blood (since it happens in all games with sprites in a 3d environment, to varying degrees) but the general level design avoids it FAR more than Duke does. Underwater fighting just sucks in all build games really.

Basically if the enemies were voxels or models, it would be a moot point, but visual representation having a large disconnect from physical presence is always a bad thing, regardless of whether some trendy youtuber had an opinion on it.

[Anonymous No.7141920]

>>7141908
what are you even talking about

[Anonymous No.7141924]

>>7141919
>Underwater fighting just sucks in all build games really.
gid gud scrub

[Anonymous No.7141926]

>>7141919
Works well enough in the three main Build titles. In Powerslave it's a real chore.

[Anonymous No.7141931]

>>7141924
I mean, in Blood I've gotten really good at minimizing diving suit usage by timing the auto-activate and deactivate toggle in between attacks, while not taking really getting hit on WD. Even the aquatic enemies themselves aren't that bad because they're expressly designed for it, but cultist behavior when underwater suffers pretty badly from the same issue when there is any significant height difference.

[Anonymous No.7141941]

>>7140515
>FutureShock32
Wait a minute, there is a Terminator: Future Shock port out there?

[Anonymous No.7141956]

>>7141919
>I don't know what eceleb
Yes you do liar

>been playing Doom and Build for "decades"
Fucking kek

I've gone through Duke, Blood, and SW in full in DOS on hard, multiple times each, getting all kills and secrets. Muh billboarding has never been a noticeable identifiable problem. And you shouldn't be aiming up and down in Doom. Your criticism is youtuber bullshit and you know it.

[Anonymous No.7141958]

Any good Quake 2 map packs?

[Anonymous No.7141961]

>>7141956
>>7141919
"Billboarding" is literally only an issue if you use the true 3D renderers of sourceports.

In other words, since the Jonof port of Duke, which can be traced back to 2004; and MUCH MUCH later for other Build games, some only 1-2 years ago

[Anonymous No.7141962]

>>7141931
Yeah, hitscanners underwater in Blood are no fun, but in Duke and SW it's no problem.

[Anonymous No.7141967]

>>7141962
I think hitscanners are less prone to going underwater in the first place in Duke and SW, but maybe it's just that I only notice it in Blood because it's so egregious in that game.

[Anonymous No.7141971]

>>7141967
>I think hitscanners are less prone to going underwater in the first place in Duke and SW

I don't think there is any difference.
The problem with Cultists underwater is that they use the same hit detection as when they're laying on the ground. Being harder to hit when laying on the ground is fine, but underwater it's just a pain in the ass. I think the devs didn't think this through.

[Anonymous No.7141973]

>>7141924
>dip into water on 3rd map of Post Mortem to get key
>-CRU-
>get killed by TNT that exploded in the surface realm when you go up for a breath of air

[Anonymous No.7141975]

>>7141971
They also can't be stunned like when they're on land. All the rules of fighting them just go out the window.

[Anonymous No.7141979]

>>7141956
Doom specifically? no. Heretic and Hexen? yes. Not only that, but doom used impossibly tall actors by default, which nullified the problem entirely (even if it was made some awkward moments where a lost soul or caco could block movement from far above.)
If you don't like my argument, fine. I legitimately have no idea who you're talking about that has apparently made comments about it, but its something that exists.

[Anonymous No.7141981]

>>7141973
nitpicking

[Anonymous No.7141991]

>>7141861
Can you please post a link to that expansion pack?

[Anonymous No.7141992]

>>7141979
Well what am I supposed to make of your dismissal of Duke's kingship, based on a very shallow, unnoticeable, uncommon phenomenon that I have only heard on youtube, but that you are arguing in bad faith? Your initial post about vertical sprite distortion reads like a tortured rationalization of why you parrot the orthodox (and wrong) /vr/ opinion that Blood stands high above the other two members of the BUILD trinity.

[Anonymous No.7142001]

>>7141034
it's easier fighting them by going absolutely apeshit, jumping around and speeding rather than trying to proceed "carefully". throwing bundles around the corner is fine but trying to pick them one by one and playing peekaboo just won't work

[Anonymous No.7142014]

>>7141838
Samsara mod

[Anonymous No.7142016]

>>7141992
Make of it whatever your heart desires. I'm kinda tired of arguing with the boogeyman bullshit in these threads. I'd rather just actually discuss the games.

[Anonymous No.7142019]

>>7141991
Didn't he saw its in the DOS pack? Here's the link on Moddb
https://www.moddb.com/mods/return-to-ruins

[Anonymous No.7142021]

>>7142016
We are literally discussing the games

[Anonymous No.7142023]

[Anonymous No.7142027]

>>7142023
I always wanted to go out to that satellite

[Anonymous No.7142058]

>>7141617
Ask on /wg/ /vr/o

[Anonymous No.7142103]

>>7141617
Go to your favorite Quake map, find a nice spot, r_drawviewmodel 0, + sign until the HUD disappears, screenshot to your heart's content.

[Anonymous No.7142112]

>>7141991
It's already in the Powerslave.7z, the expansion pack are the 3 files called LEV01 LEV02 and LEV03, but my script automatically changes them temporarily to LEV1,2,3 to play them, so you don't have to manually rename them youself. When you want to play normal Powerslave you click the other .bat, and it will revert the name change.

[Anonymous No.7142116]

>>7142027
What are ya waitin' for, Christmas?

[Anonymous No.7142153]

>>7140578
Nebula 95: Nebula Shrine
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/m-o/neb01
Yesterday I got filtered really badly here. It's kinda obvious that layout is a re-purposed DM level, one round level with various height levels. Pretty cruel at times, but I managed to push through.
Apart from a few visual glitches and one possible softlock it's really fun to play if you like challenging levels with a bit of platforming while being raped by archvile and cyberdemon (thank fuck they started to infight on me, I ran out of ammo)
Think I'm gonna save this mapseries and add them to my collection.

[Anonymous No.7142158]

>>7140578
SquonkWalker
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/s-u/sqwalker
Never heard of this concept somehow - repurposed DM level again, but instead of manually placed enemies and scripts there's a Romero's head that spawns enemies instead. Prototype for wave shooters. To exit you can just shoot Romero and that's it - goal is highscore.

[Anonymous No.7142171]

So, clint found a old goodie used for some old doom wad music along with the sound canvas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3iU8Fo3z1o

[Anonymous No.7142174]

>>7142103
thats from arcane dimensions?

[Anonymous No.7142195]

>>7142174
Nay, it's a Drake based map called Nyarlathotep
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/nyarlathotep.html

[Anonymous No.7142202]

>>7142195
the zombie shit earlier on is annoying as fuck

[Anonymous No.7142209]

>>7141908
>x opinion didn't exist until y eceleb
This should be a bannable offense, it's like trying to project an appeal to authority on another person, and fosters completely retarded discussion, and ironically promoting a really gay obsession with e-celebs.

[Anonymous No.7142239]

I haven't kept up with doom affairs (or this place) for a while, when do the cacowards release? I remember it was on november but the page hasn't updated.

[Anonymous No.7142241]

>>7142239
It's always December 10th, Doom's original release date.

[Anonymous No.7142242]

>>7142239
They're published on Doom's anniversary.

[Anonymous No.7142260]

>>7141316
>They also have a lot of sharp verticality at times, which is something that I feel is bad in Build games
I don't agree, the emphasis on verticality I think is great, and most of the time it works.

[Anonymous No.7142271]

>>7142209
I agree with you absolutely in sentiment but I also think this argument will continue to persist because it will always contain an element of truth. There legitimately is too much freedom given to online game reviews when the author knows a large portion of their viewerbase is made up of people who have never played yet and may never play the game they are reviewing, so they can take liberities such as
>ah I've discovered a potential exploit/bug/minor annoyance, it doesn't matter that this happens almost never, I can make a good funnybit out of it for my yootoob
And then people pick up the opinion and spread it around.
But the reason I agree with you is we should be avoiding this argument because if we're going to discuss this kind of shit here we should at least meet on good faith and assume we all actually play and understand the games and aren't coming here from youtube reviews

[Anonymous No.7142272]

>>7142116
>>7142027
>>7142023
Looks more like small space station, like Salyut or Almaz. Maybe EDF established those to look out for aliens.

[Anonymous No.7142273]

Do you play WADs with mouselook on?

[Anonymous No.7142275]

>>7142273
Most modern wads are made with that in mind, so yes.
Old stuff/boom compatible I don't.

[Anonymous No.7142282]

>>7141975
I think this is also true when they're laying on the ground

[Anonymous No.7142285]

>>7142195
what are you on about, that's not Nyarlathotep. it's a map from Zerstorer Jam. same author though.

[Anonymous No.7142290]

>>7142260
>>7141316
I think they have different kind of verticality

Duke cares more about building rooms over rooms; even if gameplay isn't linked between the rooms

Blood cares more about fighting enemies which are on higher/lower ground

SW is kinda in between indeed

[Anonymous No.7142294]

Are classic imps leathery or are they covered in fur?

[Anonymous No.7142298]

>>7140796
>CLEAR AND OBVIOUS BLUE EYES
>brown
what the fuck

[Anonymous No.7142314]

>>7142239
Six days. Also if you've missed it, check out 2048 Units Of /vr/

[Anonymous No.7142315]

>>7142273
Yes.

[Anonymous No.7142317]

>>7142273
Depends on how old they are. If you play, for example, Mordeth with mouselook, crouch and jump, you should be axed.

[Anonymous No.7142318]

>>7140507
QUAKE 3 Birthday was December 2nd
and /doom/ forgot it over drama and bickering...
I hope that none forgets Q2 and DOOM sharing the same 2 days (Dec 9 and 10) for the next OP

[Anonymous No.7142324]

Fresh Supply or NBlood? Genuinely asking because I'm a newfag to Blood.

[Anonymous No.7142328]

>>7142019
Does that work with BuildGDX?

[Anonymous No.7142329]

>>7142318
also i was planning to put this as the OP image but got carried out with other stuff

[Anonymous No.7142331]

>>7142324
nBlood is more accurate

[Anonymous No.7142339]

>>7142298
The neural network used to generate this "realistic" picture from the pixel art does not know how to deal with such nuances

[Anonymous No.7142340]

>>7142339
that is rather sad, impressive on one hand but still sad

[Anonymous No.7142341]

>>7140796
That is 80's Dan Aykroyd

[Anonymous No.7142342]

>>7142324
BuildGDX, since Fresh Supply is no longer updated and still has problems. nBlood isn't perfect when it comes to mods.

[Anonymous No.7142347]

>>7141369
>>7141380
Computer Area Map isn't just to reveal secrets. It's main purpose is to reveal to the player the full map so that it's easier to get a grasp of the layout. It's most useful in large nonlinear levels.

[Anonymous No.7142348]

>>7142339
If you read into it, their algorith just finds an image that can be downscaled and distorted to the original. It doesn't generate shit.

[Anonymous No.7142350]

>>7142324
BuildGDX

[Anonymous No.7142351]

>>7142348
It's not that easy. It still needs a generative part.

[Anonymous No.7142357]

>>7142350
What's better: the Java or no Java version?

[Anonymous No.7142359]

>>7142357
I use the Java version and it does me fine.

[Anonymous No.7142361]

>>7141795
Hexen has great aesthetics and atmosphere, but I sometimes wish it was something beyond switch hunt

[Anonymous No.7142363]

>>7141751
WEEW

[Anonymous No.7142370]

>>7142273
I never play doom with freelook unless the map requires GZDoom.
Vanilla, and PrBoom wads are mostly what I play, and neither support true freelook (PrBoom+ does technically allow you to look up and down, but vanilla aiming still applies, making it useless for gameplay)

[Anonymous No.7142374]

>>7142324
Fresh Supply would be the answer if Atari wasn't a bunch of fucking cunts. Good thing they're hotel project and the console scam will make them go bankrupt again.

[Anonymous No.7142391]

>>7142273
I do play with mouse look all the time because I don't like autoaim, but I try to limit myself from shooting shit that I'm not supposed to.

[Anonymous No.7142402]

>>7142363
Ugh, uh, where is it?

[Anonymous No.7142409]

>>7141034
>for adult

[Anonymous No.7142414]

>>7141025
I find SW waaaay harder than Blood because of how much reloading is involved.

[Anonymous No.7142418]

>>7140693
What mod is that SSG from?

[Anonymous No.7142419]

>>7142418
Looks like the 2048 weapons

[Anonymous No.7142432]

>>7142414
SW also has a few enemies that can literally one-shot you if you aren't careful.

[Anonymous No.7142436]

>>7142432
Fuckin' ay. Anyone who says Blood is harder has not played SW.

[Anonymous No.7142450]

>>7142432
>>7142436
All it takes is one coolie or shadow ninja you don't even know is there, I was just trying to hit this coolie and had no idea I was staring at one

[Anonymous No.7142451]

>>7142432
Duke, SW and Blood give you extreme mobility. If you get one-shot by a missile or grenade, chances are that you deserve it.

[Anonymous No.7142454]

>>7142451
lol fuck off with that shit. Check the webm above you, and show me your no death NPNG demo of Zilla Construction.

[Anonymous No.7142456]

>>7142454
Come back when you know how to play properly.

[Anonymous No.7142457]

>>7142456
>Make claim
>Show me your demo
>No
Thanks for trying.

[Anonymous No.7142464]

>>7142457
You have no one to blame for your incompetence but yourself.

[Anonymous No.7142470]

>>7142464
I like demos. Das a personal way to get someone to heed one's words. No pain no gain, haha!

[Anonymous No.7142475]

>>7142391
Kind of do this, but only for shooty switches and Icon Of Sin. Anything else is fair game, if they don't wanna get shot, they picked the wrong day to leave hell, or wrong day to be at when I come to visit hell.

[Anonymous No.7142480]

>>7142357
They're both Java, one just has Java built in.

[Anonymous No.7142483]

>>7142419
2048GUNS, comes as an optional extra with 2048 Minutes Of /vr/, as either a baked in DeHacked version, or a Decorate version for some added effects (can also be loaded with any other .wad you feel like).
Largely cosmetic in nature, actual performance and handling is much the same as original Doom weapons, for the most part.

[Anonymous No.7142484]

>>7142454
>>7142451
>Duke, SW and Blood give you extreme mobility.
Mobility doesn't have much to do with it, if you don't know one of these guys is dashing around at high speed or you don't notice them in the middle of fighting you are dead.

[Anonymous No.7142485]

>>7142451
>hurr just git gud
I like Shadow Warrior, but you're in full denial if you think its not a mess when it comes to enemy balance compared to Duke and Blood.

[Anonymous No.7142489]

>>7142484
Fuckin' ay. The other guy's a dipshit.

[Anonymous No.7142491]

>>7142454
not him but Zilla Construction NPNG katana start isn't that bad. You get the canon, the forklift, and nukes.

Dark Woods is the worst. If you're not prepared for the carpet ride get ready to get fucked; and no coolie or Shadow Ninja theres, just a fuckton of regular ninjas from all sides.

[Anonymous No.7142496]

>>7142484
In this case I saw the shadow ninja on the left of the screen right away, he's in the light too, don't play with blinkers man.
You're also exposing yourself running around a huge area with no cover when it's established there has been respawns.

[Anonymous No.7142501]

>>7142496
So now it's there's enough mobility to not get one shot *provided you stay out of open areas? How about you nut up and record that demo.

[Anonymous No.7142506]

>>7142496
>In this case I saw the shadow ninja on the left of the screen right away
Yeup, that's why I saved it so I can see what one shotted me while I was paying attention to everything else in the game.
No one's saying it's impossible by the way, it's still a very awesome and fun game - just with the most fucked up enemy and difficulty balance compared to major build games.

[Anonymous No.7142508]

>>7142496
>exposing yourself running around a huge area with no cover
lmao
>I saw the shadow ninja on the left of the screen right away
You 100% watched that play twice

[Anonymous No.7142513]

>Zilla sends his regards, Lo Wang
>Sends two ninjas
What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.7142516]

>>7142508
>lmao

Build games aren't designed like 2020 Doom 2 megawads. You're not supposed to be running around everywhere like a retard. They were designed as cover shooters, most people had no idea what circle strafing was back then; which doesn't mean that it's impossible, just that it wasn't intended.

So yes, running around a in the literal middle of a huge empty space when you know hitscanners have just respawned is stupid

[Anonymous No.7142524]

>>7142516
>Build games aren't designed like 2020 Doom 2 megawads
And no other enemy is designed like a shadow ninja either, thankfully. This has nothing to do with hitscanners and more about being in an any given area and not knowing there's damage rivaling a cyberdemon's in the shadows.

[Anonymous No.7142527]

>>7142524
>nu-Wang
0/10

[Anonymous No.7142529]

>>7142516
Duke nukem 3D is perfectly playable as a run n gun romp.

[Anonymous No.7142531]

>>7142527
Yeah I don't get everyone's obssession with him, at least Caleb is usually as his handsome hairy version.
>>7142529
Yeah it's great, though I've been mainly talking about SW's coolies and invisible ninjas.

[Anonymous No.7142536]

>>7142516
>aren't designed like 2020 Doom 2 megawads. You're not supposed to be running around everywhere like a retard
original doom2 had plenty of levels like that, refueling base and the courtyard easily come to mind as having wide open spaces that encouraged movement instead of slinking around corners and playing slowly

[Anonymous No.7142543]

>>7142527
He really lost any right to be in this picture, considering how nuSW games have zero of Build interactivity in them. Which is especially bad considering how SW was the most interactive in the original trilogy.

[Anonymous No.7142561]

>>7142543
>there we go, old wang!
>but ranger and doom are wearing new helmet variants
Corvus' bitchin' garb nearly makes up for it

[Anonymous No.7142578]

There you go:
>Zilla Construction
>NPNG
>Katana Start
>auto-aim: off
>you even get the pop up of a /vr/ msg proving I couldn't have made more than one attempt

Honestly though when this motherfucker survived the nuke I was caught by surprise and thought I was dead for sure

anonfiles[dot com][slash]P8z1P7v5p8[slash]Dozer_flv

[Anonymous No.7142591]

>>7142578
Oh my

[Anonymous No.7142604]

>>7142271
>we should assume good faith arguments
>on 4chan
ok kid

[Anonymous No.7142640]

>>7142531
>Yeah I don't get everyone's obsession with him
because old Wang was le rayciss

[Anonymous No.7142698]

>>7142640
Well, I guess.
>>7142578
>gunning immediately for that shadow ninja that you're well aware will become a problem
That is an incredibly odd nuke choice, were you saving your repair kit for a different vehicle with invulnerability in the front?

[Anonymous No.7142780]

>>7142698
>That is an incredibly odd nuke choice

I was planning to nuke the pack of Ninjas behind the crates, the shadow ninja caught me by surprise and I was improvised

[Anonymous No.7142809]

>>7142419
>>7142483
Much appreciated, anons.

[Anonymous No.7142831]

>>7142780
You got pretty lucky that save, I'd say. If he shot you a second earlier you'd be dead. They only take a few shots to kill and yet yours also survived the nuke, you are quite the Shadow Warriah!

[Anonymous No.7142851]

>>7142831
I wouldn't call that luck, if you check the video, I had one second to react when he appears on screen, before he starts shooting; I reacted during that second. Never stay dead center to a shadow ninja to avoid the wave flame, even if he does his spread shot, that shit doesn't OHKO you

[Anonymous No.7142882]

>>7142851
>even if he does his spread shot, that shit doesn't OHKO you
That's the one with the fireball throwing in a circle, right? Because this one shots you.

[Anonymous No.7142890]

>>7142882
Okay, I guess you can say it technically doesn't because of my health going to 17 before I'm dead a nanosecond later, but that's not much different than what happens here. >>7140887
I'm also realizing that while the nightvision reveals the shadow ninjas it makes it harder to tell them apart.

[Anonymous No.7142903]

>>7142831
Can confirm, that is the spiny fireball circle attack. In addition to not OHKOing you it appears to be useless, so either these guys who throwing daisies at you or having you reset the level. Now that's some luck!

[Anonymous No.7142906]

>>7142890
Yeah, thats why I don't use night vision against them, unless I already know where they are and won't mistake them for a weaker variant. That said, I pretty much always try to grenade or rocket the fuckers as safely as I can, corner peeking always seems to just be a bad idea vs them unless you leave a lot of time between peeks (otherwise you get >>7142882 )

[Anonymous No.7142910]

I did it, /doom/. First playthrough, first episode, hardest difficulty. It quickly became very tedious, levels just blend together, i don't think i can manage two more episodes, i'm pretty sure there's not gonna be any revelations, just more of the same.

[Anonymous No.7142912]

VoidSW made me like Shadow Warrior even more now

[Anonymous No.7142925]

>>7142910
There's a couple new enemies, and the level design in the third episode is better than the first or second in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.7142926]

>>7142903
I think they do less dmg though, so they're less likely to OHKO you if you're over 100hp or have good armor

[Anonymous No.7142929]

>>7142906
Yeah, they're part of the reason I subscribe to SW being the hardest of these build games.
>>7142910
Now that's some true hitscanner hell. Great job!

[Anonymous No.7142931]

All this SW discussion warms my heart.
>>7142912
>VoidSW
Google tells me it's a soruceport, but why should I use it?

[Anonymous No.7142934]

>>7142910
It can be a pretty decent mental exercise to try and visualize the top down map view as you go through, just pick a north and go from there. I don't blame you for finding it tedious though, you definitely gotta be in the mood for it.

[Anonymous No.7142935]

>>7142931
because it's better than Redux, Jonof and SWP; yet it's still officially in beta state. The only real issue is that the underwater palette doesn't work yet, also the music may turn itself off but you can turn it back on

[Anonymous No.7142937]

>>7142931
Smoothest gameplay

[Anonymous No.7142938]

>>7142912
Mouse control was pretty borked with the GDX port so I'm digging VoidSW as well. But unlike Blood , I need the aim assist on for it. Duke gets 'hitscan only' aim assist, Blood is all off.

[Anonymous No.7142939]

>>7142937
>>7142935
>>7142938
Better than GDX? I gotta check it out then.

[Anonymous No.7142941]

>>7142939
Yeah that's what >>7142903 and >>7142698 are using, HUD is configurable of course.

[Anonymous No.7142948]

>>7142929
I don't know if I'd say hardest overall, but probably hardest to do saveless for sure. Blood and even Duke have plenty of gotcha moments that can chunk you just as fast, and thankfully the shadow ninjas don't have a ton of health so knowing their placements can nullify them a lot. They're still fuckin cunts though.

[Anonymous No.7142951]

>>7142906
They were designed specifically to deal with corner peakers.

[Anonymous No.7142954]

Hmm, I dunno. Going back and forth between WangGDX and VoidSW, GDX feels much better for me. I do like that the skybox isn't blank when you look up in Void, but that's not enough for me.

[Anonymous No.7142960]

>>7142948
With those guys, coolies, the speed of the enemies, the tracking on their 'hitscanning' and how you can't steer it off, I'd certainly consider it the hardest on all fronts. It's funny because you're also given nukes and smoke bombs so it's at times the easiest; it's a hot fun mess.
I've been going through episode 2 of Duke and I actually fucking LOVE it, these drones are nowhere near as bad as I remember after tons of ninjas and cultists.

[Anonymous No.7142961]

>>7142925
I spent the episode looking for secrets, maybe i'll try to quickly blaze through next two

>>7142929
>true hitscanner hell
Open door, run forward and back quickly and pick them off one by one when they enter, that was my strategy after a few deaths.

[Anonymous No.7142964]

>He plays Shadow Warrior with autoaim
No pain, no gain

[Anonymous No.7142973]

What are some good Shadow Warrior usermaps / episodes? I just got done with "When I was Young", pretty good overall with some hilariously bad voice acting. Would recommend.

https://www.moddb.com/mods/when-i-was-young/downloads/when-i-was-young-v11

[Anonymous No.7142982]

>>7142964
Too bad, anon. Even so, I'm always feeling like I'm shooting at pencil side hitboxes in these build games. In Doom everyone feels appropriately fat for their sprites.

[Anonymous No.7142986]

>>7142964
If its excusable in any 90s FPS, it's Shadow Warrior.

[Anonymous No.7142989]

WHOOPS, LO WANG DROP SOAP! YOU BEND OVER GET IT, HAHAHAHA!

[Anonymous No.7142995]

>>7142989
Friendly reminder that there is a legend that Naoko Takeuchi Loved Sailor Moon cameo in shadow warrior, and she went on to love FPS games because of her husband's autism with dragon quest.

[Anonymous No.7142997]

>>7142986
You also couldn't turn it off until the ports happened, same goes for all the build games I'm pretty sure.

[Anonymous No.7143003]

>>7141612
Yes and No,
What you can do is to make the player start with no ammo for the pistol, in gzdoom ports will instantly switch to the fists at least.
it's closest youl get from starting with fists.

[Anonymous No.7143004]

>>7142973
>Sixteen levels
Geez.

[Anonymous No.7143006]

>>7142964
Blood and Duke are fine without autoaim, but SW you'd be forgiven.

[Anonymous No.7143036]

>>7142938
Douk is H U E G

[Anonymous No.7143048]

>>7142997
holy shit, people still use my old draw of cab.

[Anonymous No.7143049]

>>7142973
Last Warrior TC is pretty good if you can get it running in sourceports, iirc the install is meant for DOS

50 Shells In Hell 1 and 2
Tribute to Action and the other maps by the same author
Showdown in Suzhou

there is also a restaurant map released some years ago but I can't remember the name. Bento Noodles I think.

There is also a famous old city map from the 90's but I can't remember its name either

check shadow warrior freeminded

[Anonymous No.7143057]

>>7143049
>check shadow warrior freeminded

and swcentral

[Anonymous No.7143061]

>>7143049
>Last Warrior TC
Definitely works with GDX.

[Anonymous No.7143064]

>>7143048
And another one.

[Anonymous No.7143071]

>>7143064
Kick ass, this is the only other pic I got of him

[Anonymous No.7143074]

>>7143071
cuz that and the doodle and the edit are the only ones that exist (and made actually), so in total there are 4 unless there are people wanting to do the cab's

[Anonymous No.7143090]

>>7142273
No. Unless I'm playing something like Unloved and I'm supposed to be shooting at enemies at the bottom of a steep staircase and it's impossible otherwise.

[Anonymous No.7143109]

>>7143064
>Hoshi no Cab-y

[Anonymous No.7143127]

The one thing I hate the most about BD/PB are the black fingerless gloves. It couldn't be more cringe.

[Anonymous No.7143221]

>>7142531
desu I just like his character as a dumb asshole, and his relationship with Hoji, who makes fun of him for being a dumb asshole. I'm hoping that they're going to be transitioning Lo Wang into the more seasoned character he was originally, as well as make him more gruff and cruel with age.

The lack of general interactivity in the new Shadow Warrior games is definitely a good point against them, I want to hope that they address this with Shadow Warrior 3 (they thankfully aren't making it a fucking looter shooter like Shadow Warrior 2 is, Christ), but I'm not confident that they will. I feel more hopeful that they'll give Shadow Warrior 3 actual level design this time, as that seems to be something they accepted as criticism for Shadow Warrior 2.

>>7142640
I'm kind of fine with that desu, I just dislike parts of the original voice act, the accent is a bit too exaggerated, making me think of old Hannah Barbera cartoons (because it really does sound cartoony at times too), and it takes me out of it. It does have a lot of coolness too it though.
>Just like Hiroshima!
>Just like Nagasaki!
>BANZAIII!

[Anonymous No.7143228]

>>7142960
always loved how the switch in setting going into ep2 was so complete and it just works. Loved how there were no pig cops, always made me wish doom had some gimmick for ep 3 like different skins for the hitscanners or something else to add to being in hell.

[Anonymous No.7143231]

Zoomie here, I tried playing Shadow Warrior on Redux but the mouse control and frames feel weird and fucky. Is there a fix or is there something wrong with my install?

[Anonymous No.7143234]

>>7143228
Yeah, it's a great thematic transition.

[Anonymous No.7143251]

>>7143231
Don't bother with the redux, use Build GDX my man. https://m210.duke4.net/index.php/downloads/download/8-java/53-buildgdx

[Anonymous No.7143280]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYqn-pIDvo8

[Anonymous No.7143289]

>>7143231
>>7143251
Dosbox + buildmfx will also do the trick

[Anonymous No.7143324]

>>7142997
No

[Anonymous No.7143326]

>>7143127
I like them

[Anonymous No.7143327]

>>7141059
>>7141067
Checks out.

[Anonymous No.7143348]

>>7143127
Give me the motherfuckin pampaloose

[Anonymous No.7143353]

>>7143324
And he's right! Does Duke have an option?

[Anonymous No.7143356]

>>7143127
>fingerless gloves
>cringe
You're fucking cringe.

[Anonymous No.7143360]

>>7143356
Based

[Anonymous No.7143371]

>>7143127
true, fingerless gloves make anyone non fictional look like they're just about to go film their own columbine basement circle jerk tape, save for if you really need them to do something

[Anonymous No.7143379]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuJK4K1Ef50

[Anonymous No.7143383]

>>7142516
You are retarded

[Anonymous No.7143384]

>>7142484
>>7142485
Gid gud noobs

[Anonymous No.7143386]

>>7143353
Can be forced externally on all Build games

[Anonymous No.7143403]

Where do I go to get Blood 2 working properly on Windows 10? The game works but has a very low framerate. I've tried dgVoodooSetup.exe and Peixoto's patch, but both of them didn't fix anything, Peixoto's patch even made the entire screen pink when I tried playing. Am I retarded and set these up wrong?

[Anonymous No.7143406]

>>7143356
Based Hacx poster.

[Anonymous No.7143408]

>>7143384
>implying difficulty
>>7143386
How is it turned off through dos?

[Anonymous No.7143417]

>>7143406
kek. Hacx was such a mess. Clearly an alpha build product. Imagine what it could have been if it was finished properly.

[Anonymous No.7143425]

>>7143417
Was it ever meant to be anything more than a Doom TC someone tried to sell?

[Anonymous No.7143432]

>>7143425
No idea. The art for the weapons excluding the tasergun and rocket launcher is top-tier though.

[Anonymous No.7143476]

>>7140593
>Dog Mode only appears in the registered version of the game, Dark War.
False. It's in the Reelism Doom mod too.

[Anonymous No.7143490]

>>7143432
The art assets are actually kind of a weird mix.
First, you've got a bunch of hand drawn sprites and textures, which are of terrific quality, great shading, great color, fantastic detail and designs, almost Strife tier, but then you have a whole bunch of graphics which look oddly shitty and amateurish right next to those, as well as a large number of ones which are crude 3D renders and lazy photoshop filter works.

It's actually a bit like Doom, if there was one more artist working at iD doing graphics and he really sucked.

[Anonymous No.7143495]

>These fucking bees in Master Leep's Temple
Gonna take the autoaim pill.

[Anonymous No.7143510]

>>7143495
A "autoaim bees only" option would be nice for VoidSW. If you use GDX there's an option to tell them to fuck off forever.

[Anonymous No.7143516]

>>7143510
I think I'm too stubborn to turn it on. I didn't use it for Ion Fury or Blood. I think I'm enjoying SW far more than either of those. Maybe I'm still juvenile at heart, but Lo Wang is just hilarious to me. It helps that he has more lines, comedic and serious, than Caleb or Shelly.
>It is natural to die
>Holy shit!
I never see SW talked about much, but this game rocks.

[Anonymous No.7143517]

>"Rise of the Triad was also the first 3D action game to have the ability to play as women or people of color."
-Tom Hall, possibly virtue singalling but also correct about yet another first for FPS in RoTT.

Minorities were not represented again until Lo Wang in Shadow Warrior and Superfly Johnson in Daikatana.

[Anonymous No.7143519]

>>7142239
Be sure to check Akeldama. It's best megawad that came out this year. Instant classic.

Also Faithless Trilogy, if Heretic is your thing. It's megawad with hub structures from Jimmy himself.

[Anonymous No.7143524]

Playthrough video of map22 of 1994 tune-up community project is up. In my opinion, this is the worst level of the wad so far. I may be too harsh on the level, but I mostly blame the source material, not the author.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pW_ShMmEGM
And the original. Can be summed up as "but why would the author do that?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgIb9H4i10Y

[Anonymous No.7143526]

>>7143517
Does he mean American game? Because, Japanese games had playable females (from a bunch of different backgrounds) way before this. He should of said FPS (and I bet even that is debatable)

[Anonymous No.7143528]

>>7143526
should uv*

[Anonymous No.7143529]

>>7143516
If all else fails, try the fists or toss some explosives underneath them. You'll have more control over explosives without autoaim. It is indeed a very fun game, Lo Wang controls real well and he's the funniest protagonist.

[Anonymous No.7143554]

>>7143526
Were they 3D action games? 3D dungeon crawlers or even stuff like Ultima Underworld don't count because they weren't action games. Remember, FPS were called 3D action games before FPS came into vogue

[Anonymous No.7143578]

>>7143490
>but then you have a whole bunch of graphics which look oddly shitty and amateurish right next to those, as well as a large number of ones which are crude 3D renders and lazy photoshop filter works.
Let me guess, most of those are the enemies, right? It's always a biggest obstacle for spriters. Even Strife resorted to rather meh prerenders for all the robot enemies.

[Anonymous No.7143582]

>>7142294
According to Adrian Carmack theyre furry. But I prefer to think of them as leathery. Its like how the creator of GIF's says its pronounced like jif.

[Anonymous No.7143587]

>>7143582
Yeah no fuckin way I'm ever saying jif like some fucking mongoloid. I also consider it to be the Imps flesh

[Anonymous No.7143603]

>>7143582
someone tell adrian to write up a bible for classic doom lore

[Anonymous No.7143605]

>>7143582
they're fucking leathery fuck you adrian

[Anonymous No.7143615]

>>7143582
Has someone ever asked adrian now that Paul is dead if he has any remaining concepts from Q2, like the Original ai with Rabid beserkers doing jump smash and hiting you while running?

[Anonymous No.7143618]

>>7142964
I play without autoaim... until they throw the fucking hornets at you. Fuck those cunts.
>>7142973
Showdown in Suzhou

[Anonymous No.7143642]

>>7143554
I stand corrected if the quote was from 1995 or something, but somehow I doubt that.. but I do think it's splitting hairs. Japan had a ton of female characters since they have been making video games

[Anonymous No.7143659]

>Sandy Peterson has an online store where he sells tons of tabletop games
I feel like out of all the original Doom people hes living the best life.

[Anonymous No.7143661]

>>7142294
So the question is whether they are niggers or furries?

[Anonymous No.7143667]

Is there any Doom mod ever influenced by King's Field?

[Anonymous No.7143673]

>>7143659
I dunno, Carmack seems to be living the high life, doing whatever the fuck he pleases and never looking back.

[Anonymous No.7143675]

>>7143659
Carmack's a fucking tech wizard and he created the Quake engine.

[Anonymous No.7143681]

>>7143667
Not sure but there is a small community around a King's Field level editor called Sword of Moonlight, never played any of their games but they seem pretty passionate.

[Anonymous No.7143727]

>>7143659
Have you seen his nice house and his huge family? He's indeed living the best life. I am jelly as all fuck that I have neither.

[Anonymous No.7143741]

>>7143615
No clue but you can ask him on Twitter. Also RIP Based Paul.

[Anonymous No.7143754]

>>7143642
Were they in 3D action games or not? He's talking about FPS dude

[Anonymous No.7143763]

>>7143673
he does friday beat saber servers

[Anonymous No.7143782]

>>7143727
Right? He works on tabletop games and pen & paper stuff, both lifelong hobbies of his, inspired by his favorite types of horror movies and books, he continues evangelizing his favorite horror author to anyone interested, as well as just talking about his and other people's work on board games and videogames, fields he has a serious legacy in.
Add to that being a grandpa with a nice house and kids/grandkids sharing your interests. He knows what he finds fun, he learned how to develop more of that kind of fun for himself, and for others, and I think that's a big reason for his successes.

I really look at him and his accomplishments with respect and envy. When I grow old, I hope I'm not some miserable fuck, but instead that I'm a jolly old man like that who enjoys life and has great achievements like he does to be proud of.

[Anonymous No.7143804]

>>7143554
Half-Life is really when the term FPS became common

[Anonymous No.7143807]

>>7143782
He fucking created Call of Cthulu. Dude is a legend in the tabletop RPG world.

[Anonymous No.7143813]

>>7143754
Never the word FPS comes out of the quote, so you see how this is pretty up in the air. You might have more leg to stand on if he said "Doom Clone"

[Anonymous No.7143832]

>>7143804
Half life came out in November of 1998. Your chart has "First Person Shooter" gaining popularity right in the middle of 1996, when Quake came out. It then begins its rocket upwards at the start of 1997 as 3d games become more and more common.

[Anonymous No.7143848]

>>7143741
Alternate reality where they all stayed friends and Quake 1 became an extremely based fantasy action game after which id continues on it's 90s trajectory into a productive and influential new millenium, please.

[Anonymous No.7143851]

>>7143848
>Alternate reality where they all stayed friends and Quake 1 became an extremely based fantasy action game
But I love Quake the way it is now.

[Anonymous No.7143852]

>>7142964
>he doesn't play DOS games in DOSBox with the default autoaim and vertical mouselook off

[Anonymous No.7143865]

>>7143851
yeah but you don't know how much you would have loved alt quake if they could have just got their shit together and been able to make the best of both worlds; another ground-breaking technology-forward first person fully 3d game with innovative genre defining gameplay elements aka daikatana but not an absolute fucking disaster

[Anonymous No.7143874]

>>7143408
I know you can turn off autoaim in DOS Blood by launching with the -noaim parameter. I tried it with Duke and SW just now and it didn't work.

[Anonymous No.7143879]

>>7143874
Mouse aim in Build games is janky anyway, as it can only update one axis at a time, unless you use a source port

[Anonymous No.7143894]

>>7143578
Not even. Some of the enemies look like shit (like the robots) but some of them actually look pretty good, like some of the mutants. Like, these sprites here, you can see a bunch of them are pre-rendered 3D, and the quality of the models vary, as well as the post processing of the models, sometimes they're decent, sometimes they're pretty fucking bad.

The Uzi for instance, looking at all of its frames together, you can tell it's a 3D model, and not a great one, it's kind of just a flat box with some plain looking Uzi textures slapped on it, but then the centered frames have obviously been worked over heavily by one of the guys who's really competent at spriting, because it looks pretty good and detailed. Looking at one of the reload frames, it looks slightly better than the others on some parts, but the overall model is just as meh, however the hand holding the magazine actually looks great.
Looking at various pickup sprites, they are also high quality.

Then you have the other weapons, the freeze gun looks excellent, the BFG was probably a 3D model which someone painted over to look good, the explosions are amazing looking, but then there's that green zap shotgun thing, which is a mediocre 3D model, with a really ugly and simple muzzle flash, complete with what looks like smoke lazily drawn on with the paint can in an old version of MS Paint. Looking at that big red quadruped, he looks kind of ok, but his death frames are hideous, with the worst splashing.
That Mancubus looking thing is pretty cool, and I love the mutant with the arm gun, not even so much in concept (it's ok), but it's just executed really well, his frames are good, clean, consistent, with fantastic shading and color.

Some of the worst stuff is the 3D without any post processing at all, like that flying head thing, the poison canister thing, the terminatrix thing, and that wall torch which didn't need to be pre rendered at all.

I want to continue with the textures, so BRB in a bit.

[Anonymous No.7143904]

>>7143894
Oh yeah, and Danny Evanger's sprites there are pretty fucking rough and muddy to look at.

[Anonymous No.7143930]

>>7143894
Wait a moment, am I missing something or is that shoulder cannon exactly like the DOOM Eternal one?

[Anonymous No.7143937]

Any boomers know some dos compatible boom202/mbf wads?

[Anonymous No.7143948]

>>7143659
Of course
There is more to his existence than just Doom and Quake

[Anonymous No.7143950]

>>7140578
Wolfenstein: Shadows of Destiny
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/v-z/wolf_shd

Seems like I got lucky. I played a couple of levels in, it's decent.
It tries to stick very close to Wolfenstein, no diagonal walls or floor height etc.
Feels a bit janky to navigate around the huge collision boxes on potted plants and stuff though.

[Anonymous No.7143963]

>>7143832
I said became common

[Anonymous No.7143972]

>>7143865
I mean come in man, what would it really have ended up as, knowing what we know now of how it progressed? A true 3D Hexen? Melee Quake 1 with some spells ane shit instead of guns? I don't believe they could've pulled off an actual RPG

[Anonymous No.7143989]

What about the video game Killing Time? there are two versions, one for pc / mac and the other for the 3DO console and theoretically one discontinued for PlayStation. I suspect that the PC version is a Doom clone, but they are one of the horror games that I still like to play.

[Anonymous No.7143991]

>>7143425
For everything to know about Hacx, check out this site of Rich "Nostromo" Johnston, a playtester and he also made Map 12 and tweaked a few others. He is caretaker of all the original files and he and a few others still work on it sometimes, with their goal being a HacX 2.0:
http://drnostromo.com/hacx/

[Anonymous No.7143992]

>>7143989
Listen to me: Killing Time is fucking based. Don't listen to any faggot who says otherwise. Gloom is as well.

[Anonymous No.7143998]

>>7143950
I believe that's a port of a Wolfenstein 3D campaign someone made.

[Anonymous No.7144003]

Any Doom or Quake mods that add flamethrowers?

[Anonymous No.7144007]

>>7144003
Yeah tons

[Anonymous No.7144014]

>>7141896
This. It's not the best game ever or anything but it is unjustly shit on.

[Anonymous No.7144020]

>>7141442
Just make her sound cute; female badasses don't work because they aren't real.

[Anonymous No.7144027]

>>7143992
yes I know, it is one of the few games that has an interesting history and development. I remember that I was even venturing into making a mod based on the Build engine and pain in the ass with Editart, I had a gallery of items, ornaments and sprites, but a lightning bolt screwed up my hard drive...shit happens.

[Anonymous No.7144043]

>>7144020
I can't identify with a cute woman or any woman really, I'm not a chick. I don't really play games with female protags. Metroid and that's because she looks like a robot. Dudes that always play as sexy female characters in games where they can seems very coomerish to me.

[Anonymous No.7144050]

>>7143894
I like your sprite observations, what do you think about the spritework in Powerslave?

[Anonymous No.7144051]

>>7143894
Now textures, it's a mix, you'll recognize some of these as having been used in previous games, being stock textures available for license, sometimes they're applied competently, other times not. Some are clearly raped by the limited color palette, not being converted or adapted to it properly, some are stock photos with little to no processing done, and then a large amount of them are some sort of pre-rendered 3D stuff, I think maybe they used some 3D program at the time which may have had an option for generating a continuous and repeating pattern, the end result being stuff which looks really oddly synthetic and not-lifelike. IIRC this may have been used for the Matrix levels, in which case this would actually be a really fitting aesthetic choice, if also incredibly ugly.

Again also, you see some handdrawn stuff, some which looks very good, and some which looks very amateurish. If you look at that lava fall there, it's one of the waterfall textures but recolored, then stretched horizontally for double its width, which gives it that awkward chunky look. Looking at flats, some tile well and look good (you'll recognize these from other games, as said), and some which look crude and bad, being hand drawn or pre-rendered by one of the amateurs on staff, and don't tile well at all. You also have a handful of textures which are pictures of three dimensional environments, which is something that wouldn't work visually unless seen only from a front angle, which isn't the case in game for all of these.

There's something so very delightfully 90s about all this stuff, in both good and bad ways.

[Anonymous No.7144059]

>>7144050
I haven't got the time and energy at the moment to go over all of those right now (and there's a lot of those), but I think they're really cool for the most part.

[Anonymous No.7144063]

>>7144051
Dude you're very knowledgeable about this shit and your breakdown is really interesting, I'd love to see you do this same this with other old sprite based FPS

[Anonymous No.7144097]

>>7144063
Well, I could tell you go open up Strife.wad with Slade, and to look at the textures and sprites there. They did some stuff as pre-rendered 3D, and some as stock textures, but if you look at the handdrawn stuff there, it's actually quite incredible, it's very consistent, the shading and lighting is very clean, the palette is used expertly.
In Doom, if you look closely at the sprites there, you can spot a little bit of color banding here and there, just a little, but it's there, most noticeable on some of the gibbing sprites, which are slightly lazy (but workable). For Strife's gore, there's no such shortcuts, it's all very expertly shaded with no banding or color bleeding. The way sparks and lightning light up some of the sprites also looks very clean.
There's also a lot of frames which, again, are very consistent in their motion and positioning, which makes all the hand drawn animation look very smooth and clean. Doom also actually has fairly smooth animations as is, though the sprite offsets there are pretty sloppy, thus they can look more choppy at times than the animations actually are (the Spritefixing project lets you fix that).

A neat thing is that Strife also used a palette trick to render certain shades and colors at fullbright, like Duke Nukem 3D, so you get certain elements glowing in the dark, so to say. Strife does take a couple of shortcuts here and there, but the artists did a pretty good job of covering that up.

[Anonymous No.7144129]

>>7143937
2048 runs in MBF 2.04. When testing to see if Boom/MBF wads run in DOS, skip Boom and go straight to MBF as MBF 2.04 will not crash nearly as often and the gameplay is the same

[Anonymous No.7144152]

>>7142484
Yeah, there's a shadow ninja there. Now you restart the level and play knowing there's one there. Like in Blood when you die to a mean enemy placement

[Anonymous No.7144154]

Which source port should I use for blood
I'm not using dosbox get right outta town if you think I'm using dosbox.

[Anonymous No.7144158]

>>7144154
buildgdx

[Anonymous No.7144160]

>>7143231
Go into settings. The vertical sensitivity and the horizontal sensitivity are set drastically apart.

[Anonymous No.7144167]

>>7144129
>"whats a good duke nukem mod"
>anon answers:
>play 2048

[Anonymous No.7144171]

>>7144160
Also there might be a V sync option

[Anonymous No.7144173]

>>7143406
>>7143417
>>7143425
>>7143991
>Okay. So you're going along, minding your own business, which just happens to be hacking into other people's databases, when your latest hack, some hi-tech company, catches you on-line and sends over some government jerk to arrest you. Mother said there'd be days like this. You broke a few national and international laws. So what's the big deal?! Hacking is what hackers do! But seems like you hacked into the wrong database this time. Ultra-secret and all that. Genemp Corporation. Some biotech something or other. Database called itself GENIE. Something peculiar in that. Awfully sophisticated database. Especially if it caught you in the middle of hacking, and you're the best, it's eerily sophisticated. Like it can actually think, or something.

>So they send you packing… to the federal pen. For the rest of your natural life. No computer, no gear, nothing. Total drag. Cement and bars, and the other guys inside aren't exactly your average beefcakes. They catch a glance at your cyber-jockey derrière and get a wet gleam in their eye. So what you do for the next twelve months is hit the weight room--hard and fast! You pump iron like your life depended on it--and it does. You learn to sleep with one eye open. Punching the heavy bag becomes your breakfast; tae-kwon-do your lunch, and for dinner… well, you gotta eat sometime. And practice? Plenty. 'Cause these boys got a gleam in their eyes that won't go away. But how you've changed! Over once scarecrow arms, muscles wrap tight and heavy, and you've got a fu-kick that makes the boys call you "Sir". Before you were just an average pencil-necked geek, now you could grace the front of Muscle and Guns Magazine. And just in time, too.

[Anonymous No.7144174]

>>7144167
Anon asked for Boom or MBF .wads which run in DOS, try to keep up.

[Anonymous No.7144175]

>>7144129
With it, you can even play Eviternity, but you have to add "-X" to the back of CWSDPMI.EXE in a .bat file. It will allow breaking the built-in memory barrier from cwsdpmi, however it will still crash on a few levels.

[Anonymous No.7144185]

>>7144173
>and the other guys inside aren't exactly your average beefcakes. They catch a glance at your cyber-jockey derrière and get a wet gleam in their eye

[Anonymous No.7144215]

>>7144152
None of those 'mean placements' are shooting napalm at you. At least those cultists are consistent and gradual with their bullets, as well as being much slower and predictable.

[Anonymous No.7144217]

>>7144051
That's Cage's work, right?
Pretty cool to see where he started from, his work is pretty great now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CoTrfG3LUQ

[Anonymous No.7144237]

>>7143989
>>7143992
This has been pretty terrific so far, it's actually pretty fun. I wasn't expecting such a good atmosphere.

[Anonymous No.7144241]

>>7144237
Weapon feedback looks kinda bad

[Anonymous No.7144242]

>>7144241
I wasn't expecting much for a random, ancient 3DO Doom clone.

[Anonymous No.7144243]

>>7144217
Wait, Cage worked on Hacx? What did he do there, the good graphics or the shitty graphics?

[Anonymous No.7144245]

>>7144097
I am looking at Strife sprites now, it is really good. You got any opinion on these scrapped sprites for Rise of the Triad when it was still Wolfenstein 3D: Part II?

You should write a blog or make videos analyzing this stuff.

[Anonymous No.7144249]

>>7144217
Damn, this guy better be getting paid for work that good.

[Anonymous No.7144250]

>>7144242
It's corny and goofy looking, but it's actually pretty good for what it is.

[Anonymous No.7144251]

>>7144241
It could be be better but Killing Time unfairly gets shit on as some kind of unplayable mess because it was a Doom clone on 3DO but its far from that.

[Anonymous No.7144260]

>>7144245
Couldn't give you all that much insight, since we don't have all of those graphics (or, the stuff that was released was all they got done before retooling it into ROTT), but I'd say it mostly has that cartoony aesthetic of Wolf3D, fairly stark colors, simple but competent shading. It doesn't look too bad, mostly, though overall I'm glad we got the ROTT that we did, and Wolfenstein would instead head towards RTCW.

[Anonymous No.7144268]

>>7144007
Tell me some

[Anonymous No.7144274]

>>7144250
Yeup, I'm pretty pleased with it

[Anonymous No.7144317]

>>7144243
It's hard to tell exactly what he had his hands on, he's credited worked on 2.0 on "Sprites, Texturing, Design". In the original release there was like 7 artists. Too many cooks in the kitchen.

[Anonymous No.7144339]

How do I autoload Copper into SQL so that I can play other map packs with it?

[Anonymous No.7144384]

IS Eviternity the best megawad ever made?

>Beautiful
>New content but not too crazy
>Each chapter has exclusive textures
>Awesome design
>Pretty hard but not unfair
>Perfect OST

[Anonymous No.7144386]

>>7144384
>locks you in arena
>spawns revenants
>spawns archvile
>repeat

[Anonymous No.7144390]

>>7144384
For me? It's Whitemare and Whitemare 2.

[Anonymous No.7144398]

Is the actual structure of an IWAD file different than a PWAD? Or does the game just determine it based on checksum or the contents?

[Anonymous No.7144454]

>>7144398
My understanding is that iwads have a flag somewhere that marks them as one. Otherwise, I don't think anything is different.

[Anonymous No.7144457]

>>7144386
I'm in the third chapter and never seen this happening

[Anonymous No.7144467]

[Anonymous No.7144529]

>>7144384
Best-looking, perhaps. Preacher has my favorite gameplay/level design, with Valiant a close second. Preacher has ammo spread thinly across the map so you have to keep moving, alerting more enemies, or you run out of ammo; and Valiant seems to be masterfully designed for pure fun, as it flows extremely well and is generous with rockets and shells (never enough super chaingun ammo though!) and health and mid-tier enemies

[Anonymous No.7144550]

>>7144174
I'm saying this might as well be the case. I submitted maps for 2048 and love the project but niggas here recommend it for everything.
>Anon asked for Boom or MBF .wads which run in DOS, try to keep up.
Yeah, and then you recommended 2048 which doesn't run in DOS

[Anonymous No.7144569]

>>7143832
Not him, but while the chart shows 1996 having a higher usage of "first-person shooter" than the previous years, it was still nothing compared to "Doom Clone". it wasn't really until mid-1997 that "First-person Shooter"'s usage skyrocketed, with it permanently overtaking "Doom Clone" by early 1998.

[Anonymous No.7144575]

>>7143832
Not him, but while the chart shows 1996 having a higher usage of "first-person shooter" than the previous years, it was still nothing compared to "Doom Clone". it wasn't until early 1998 that it permanently overtook "Doom Clone".

[Anonymous No.7144621]

>>7144173
Why did they wait 8 months for him to get ripped before raping him?

[Anonymous No.7144624]

>>7144245
>chaingun
>triad chaingun
That was all you had to do, rott.. all you had to do was give the player a better lategame hitscan weapon and things could have been so much better
well a few other things too probably (tom hall touchplates) but then at least killing monks wouldn't take 12 whole fucking seconds after you run out of explosives

[Anonymous No.7144641]

>>7144384
BTSX is the best for me, for its sheer scope of being a trilogy of megawads, with all textures and nearly all midis* being made specifically for it. And to top it all off, it looks great while still being compatible with the vanilla.exe.

* - E2M18's midi was actually a midi stewboy made for Interception (which came out a year before BTSX E2's beta), as stewboy accidentally sent in the wrong midi by mistake. The intended midi for BTSX which wasn't used ended up in Ancient Aliens MAP08

[Anonymous No.7144673]

Are there any Doom mods out there that let you use shields? Permanent or temporary is fine.

[Anonymous No.7144676]

>>7144673
What kinda shields are we talking here, energy shields or like actual shields the player holds to block shit?

[Anonymous No.7144681]

>>7144676
Actual shields the player holds to block shit

[Anonymous No.7144686]

>>7144681
GMOTA has a shield subweapon, and I'm working on an update for Combined_Arms that introduces a class that has a passive shield too.
I know there's some other mods too but I'll be damned if I can remember.

[Anonymous No.7144742]

Any of you guys ever try out those unoffical but commercially sold add-ons for Quake and shit? I was browsing the moddb page for Quake 2 and just found out about them, and they seem pretty damn cool. Quake 1 even has a (apparently awful) add-on brazenly called Q2.

[Anonymous No.7144821]

>>7144742
Abyss of Pandemonium is interesting. Some of the monsters there went on to be used in other mods, notably the juggernaut in the mod mission pack Travail. I really like it, but history isn't crazy about AoP. It's totally fine, it's got some new weapons and new monsters, but if someone plays Abyss directly after Scourge and Dissolution, they'd have to temper their expectations just a hair. A shame because it has some neat tricks; I think it's the first release to modify nightmare ogre behaviors to not just act like a turret when the player is in view. They'll shoot a volley of grenades, then try to close the gap, whereas Quake and mission pack ogres will default to turret mode on nightmare. As far as I know, this behavior wasn't replicated again until Arcane Dimensions in 2016, and then the mod Copper's release a bit after. That's quite impressive when you consider AoP came out in 1998. The axe's damage and behavior was modified to be more than just a fun thing to use when you're bored, it's got a bitching soundtrack, the bosses are really neat, the level design is average-good - I really fucking like it, but most do not care for it.

[Anonymous No.7144829]

>>7140515
Quake mod Copper updated.
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/copper_v1_15.html
Changelog: http://lunaran.com/files/copper_v1_15.txt

[Anonymous No.7144831]

>>7144742
in the late 90's anti-piracy laws were almost not enforced at all, so alot of unauthorised addons were sold commercially. Would be interesting if someone actually dumped those disks as-is in an organised collection.

[Anonymous No.7144839]

>>7144097
My favorite part is the death animation of those powersuit enemies, with a mutant dude falling out of the cockpit. A shame, really, it was probably the last good sprite they were able to make before they got strapped for cash/time.

[Anonymous No.7144847]

>>7144742
Shrak: some neat qc (shell casings, damaged skins, changing hub, hook), mundane levels, really bad models and animations, annoying flying eyes.
Abyss of Pandemonium: footsteps, rain, destructibles, custom gibbing, an entire knockoff-Q1 texture set. most new things shown off in the first level, new guns impractical and gimmicky.
Malice: a full edgy futuristic TC. actually pretty neat, but balance is weird (normal is too easy, hard is way too bulletspongey).
the rest of the commercial stuff is pretty much 100% trash.

>>7144831
https://www.quaddicted.com/files/commercial/

[Anonymous No.7144848]

>>7144339
I don't know much about SQL, but all you'd need to do is move the maps you wish to play into a maps folder within Copper. If the map or mappack has custom progs, it won't work no matter what. It'd be like trying to load a Quoth map in Arcane Dimensions.

[Anonymous No.7144853]

>>7144831
Quaddicted is good about that. Anon here >>7144847 beat me to it.

[Anonymous No.7145008]

>>7142910
This same anon here. What the fuck is this
>no aggro sound
>CHEST GUN
>arms flailing in a demoralizing way
>somber music
i've made a huge mistake

[Anonymous No.7145018]

>>7145008
Welcome to hell, enjoy!

[Anonymous No.7145025]

GOOD MORNING FUCKERS, IT'S SCREENSHOT SATURDAY. SO YOU GOT ANYTHING TO SHOW FOR IT? MAPS, MODS, SPRITES, NOW'S THE TIME TO POST IT.

[Anonymous No.7145028]

>>7145025
pls no I'm not ready

[Anonymous No.7145039]

>>7145008
Oh yeah, nazi gymnasts. Welcome to die.

[Anonymous No.7145042]

>>7144317
That looks just like some stuff from Build games

[Anonymous No.7145043]

>>7145008
Oh boy, you're in for a fun time. Just remember:
There's always one more.

[Anonymous No.7145045]

>>7144242
PC and 3DO version are fundamentally different from each other, optimized for the hardware they ran on

[Anonymous No.7145050]

>>7145043
I like how this webm almost loops

[Anonymous No.7145051]

>>7144237
PC version replaces some digitized actor sprites of 3DO version with prerendered ones, but leaves the filmed "story ghosts" as they were.
baffling choice t b h

[Anonymous No.7145052]

>>7145051
>>7145045
Is there any port of 3DO version or emulator is the only way?

[Anonymous No.7145058]

Are there any good games that share easthetic of Quake (That is travelling to medieval-looking place and gunning down evil wizards)

[Anonymous No.7145059]

>>7145050

[Anonymous No.7145074]

>>7145058
Wrath: Aeon of Ruin - commercial game
Mods:
Arcane Dimensions
Arcanum
Something_Wicked
mapjam9
Unforgiven
Nyarlathotep
Ter_Shibboleth

[Anonymous No.7145080]

>>7145052
You have to emulate. Has the added benefit of overclocking in emulation, since Killing Time was not a fast running game to begin with.

[Anonymous No.7145083]

>>7145052
Yes.

[Anonymous No.7145119]

>>7143804
>no one used "first perspective shooter"
Being a non-English speaker is suffering.

[Anonymous No.7145128]

>>7144621
I wonder that too

[Anonymous No.7145129]

>>7144050
Why do I feel that photorealism is still a good option in video games? today a lot of 3D shit that you don't want to see because everything happens very fast, instead, in the 90's it was a challenge due to post production time. You see the characters digitized and it's like directing on a movie set. Why don't you see more of this shit?

[Anonymous No.7145136]

>>7143524
You're doing good work anon

[Anonymous No.7145157]

>>7145119
Bros what's your favorite Ranger Simulator? For me, it's Half-Life.

[Anonymous No.7145198]

>>7145129
lol wut you see it all the time are you fucking stupid. Look at any random AAA video game. They all use facial scanning technology.

[Anonymous No.7145205]

>>7145008
Same thing ALWAYS happens to me when after years since the last time I tried, I sit down with Wolf3D to play it all the way through. I beat episode 1 and I get to those fucking zombie soldiers, I go through that door where you first encountered one, the same fucking thing happens and after maybe 1 or 2 more tries I say fuck it and quit

[Anonymous No.7145208]

>>7142910
>It quickly became very tedious, levels just blend together, i don't think i can manage two more episodes, i'm pretty sure there's not gonna be any revelations, just more of the same.

That's Wolfenstein 3D alright. I think the original game has the majority of its mileage in the first episode, E2 and E3 add new enemies, and use some new textures, but otherwise it's largely more of the same. E4, E5, and E6, The Nocturnal Missions, don't add anything really new aside from bosses and some new textures, they also have some of the most fucking tedious level design. Spear Of Destiny adds a little bit more stuff, but it's a lot of the same as E1, E2, and E3.
Do not play the FormGen expansions.

>>7145008
Haha, yeah, the mutants are bastards even on easy.

>>7145059
Thanks Romero, very cool.

[Anonymous No.7145215]

>>7145051
Would be cool if there was a port of the 3DO version to PC. Maybe Heineman still has the source code?

[Anonymous No.7145220]

How the mighty have fallen

https://youtu.be/r81e7A1Utak

[Anonymous No.7145232]

>>7145198
It is not the same, one is two-dimensional another is three-dimensional. 2D you can directly use the photograph of the actor intervened by frames, the other cut and paste into a puppet for free interaction of movements.

[Anonymous No.7145241]

>>7145232
You're asking why we don't digitize actors anymore in 2D video games? Because it's far more expensive than simply drawing and animating something yourself. Do you think Hollow Knight would have benefited from a digitized bug? Dead Cells from a digitized guy dressed up as the character? I don't mean to jump down your throat, but I'm astounded at the idiocy.

[Anonymous No.7145258]

>>7145232
>>7145241
It is also much easier to rotoscope a 3D model if you really want to

[Anonymous No.7145281]

I hate that DoomRL monsters gibbing gore effects lag my pc so much, but the monsters don't work with other gore mods even if I disable the fancy effects, so I have to either find a way to make DoomRL monster unable to be gibbed, find a way to make them compatible with other mods or keep playing with shitty vanilla effects instead

[Anonymous No.7145295]

>>7143804
That peak down in 1996 is Duke's release. From that point onward reviewers made a difference between "Doom clones" and "Duke clones"; which is when it started being obvious that a better term was needed

[Anonymous No.7145303]

>>7145220
>40 bucks for this shit
Never let your wife or Swedes touch your project

[Anonymous No.7145305]

>>7145303
Well, it always was his wife's project

[Anonymous No.7145314]

>>7145281
Options>DRLA options>Mosnter pack options>Fancy gore effects: off

[Anonymous No.7145316]

>>7145241
It's a rhetorical question obviously, digitizing a sprite actor must have been a pain in the ass perhaps, especially if it has a lot of actions in a pseudo 2D environment like DOOM where it requires more positions to give an orientation "feel" of depth and distance. As far as 3D is concerned, there is a lot of light direction shit and other technical shit that is irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.7145321]

>>7145220
Wow, apparently it's really fucking bad

[Anonymous No.7145326]

>>7144529
Gonna try both

[Anonymous No.7145329]

>>7145321
>not uploading the first take on Dailymotion or Bitchute

[Anonymous No.7145335]

>>7145321
This is just a cry for attention and wanting patreon bux.

[Anonymous No.7145337]

>>7145220
>prohibition-era chicago

[Anonymous No.7145341]

>>7145321
>I really wish I had tons of donators on the like of Subscribestar
Yeah, I bet you do

[Anonymous No.7145348]

>>7145018
I always wondered what the idea was with these guys. This is Adrian's art right? Are his arms like levers that turn gears inside him to fire the guns? Is he giving Hitler salutes as he fires?

[Anonymous No.7145349]

>>7145314
> or keep playing with shitty vanilla effects instead
its in the post

[Anonymous No.7145351]

>>7145321
>I'm not free to say words because if I say them I won't get my Youtube shekels

[Anonymous No.7145353]

>>7145335
>>7145341
I think it's more of a statement on how you can't speak out against clown world

[Anonymous No.7145354]

>>7140515
Scumhead released Lycanthorn II
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMbNxYOyPj8

[Anonymous No.7145357]

>>7145321
>Ooh poor me! I am shackled by the Youtube money! Only more of your money can save me!

Grade A scammer, guy knows what he's doing

[Anonymous No.7145359]

[Anonymous No.7145361]

>>7144621
Because they want to fuck men, not pussies.

[Anonymous No.7145363]

>>7145353
Yeah I'm sure, but the problem is these people always self-centralize the problem. You think that guy would still be railing for freedom of speech if he had his subscribers and his monthly income? Would he still make posts about
>aaa it's so horrible that I have to rely on this flawed system and can't simply say what I mean without being demonetized
Part of the reason this problem continues to get worse and worse is any content creator can be placated by receiving the alternate income they desire, at which point they stop speaking about the demonetization-for-opinions issue at all.

[Anonymous No.7145364]

>>7144174
I actually thought it ran in DOS, thus why I backed him, my mistake. Also, I agree that we shouldn't be recommending it needlessly.

[Anonymous No.7145365]

>>7145359
>meanwhile in japan

[Anonymous No.7145369]

>>7145351
Yes, that's how freedom works. If can't do something under the threat of negative consequences by a higher power then you aren't free to do it.

[Anonymous No.7145378]

>>7145329
This. He has not excuses. At least Sseth makes it clear he is doing it for the money, this guy is making out like he is being censored, when his greed shines through.

[Anonymous No.7145380]

>>7145369
Youtube isn't a real job

[Anonymous No.7145383]

>>7145215
>Maybe Heineman still has the source code?
She has it.
>Hello! might I ask, do you happen to have plans to release the Killing Time 3do source code sometime in the future? Well, That's if you still have it of course.
>I have everything.
https://twitter.com/burgerbecky/status/1256850897692512256

[Anonymous No.7145385]

>>7144575
And by that point you had Turok, Goldeneye, Quake 1 and 2, and Unreal out already.

[Anonymous No.7145387]

>>7145337
this kind of revisionism is disgusting

[Anonymous No.7145395]

>>7142995
Is there a source to this?

[Anonymous No.7145397]

>>7145337
This would be accurate if it was Weimar Germany

[Anonymous No.7145406]

>>7144641
BTSX was even release in the official port (unity)

[Anonymous No.7145435]

>>7145337
What am I missing here?

[Anonymous No.7145437]

Should i've started with Wolf 3D instead of Doom?

[Anonymous No.7145446]

>>7140507
The Abyss

Lunar Reactor

Dark Side

Hotel Hell

Derelict

Nightmare Zone

What's the most adventurous classic Duke map /vr/os? Episode 5 excluded.

[Anonymous No.7145448]

>>7145437
No. I think it may have been wiser to play Doom first because Doom is a better game and if it gets you hooked on boomer shooters you can give Wolf a go. If you like Doom give Wolf3D a try if you haven't yet.

[Anonymous No.7145450]

>>7145321
Basically he lacks the creativity to insult aspects of the game without resorting to generic swear words and is “frustrated” that he now actually has to put effort in writing.

[Anonymous No.7145451]

>>7145387
what revisionism? She's a fucking circus performer.

[Anonymous No.7145452]

>secrets within secrets within secrets within secrets
reminds me of king's field 2(3)

[Anonymous No.7145454]

>>7145452
one more

[Anonymous No.7145457]

>>7145454
i fucking knew one of those secrets gonna have a horde of enemies inside

[Anonymous No.7145465]

>>7145457
gee, i wonder if anyone is hiding in those alcoves
this is the last one i swear

[Anonymous No.7145470]

>>7145451
Yeah because people back then totally looked like that. Right. Ok.

[Anonymous No.7145482]

>>7145437
I don't think Wolfenstein has much to offer if you've played really any FPS before.

[Anonymous No.7145483]

>>7145337
I don't get it.

[Anonymous No.7145494]

>>7145470
Fucking ugly people? Yeah, those have existed for a long time, nevermind that hormone disorders are also a thing, so this could plain be a freak of nature, not a manmade monstrosity.

[Anonymous No.7145502]

>>7145437
Maybe give the first episode a go, then two and three if you really enjoyed it, but honestly it really is a VERY plain game compared to most things after it, it really doesn't develop much at all after that, and is largely just more of the same.
It can be somewhat enjoyable, but I would suggest only a level or two a day.

[Anonymous No.7145508]

>>7145446
The Abyss. In that level, the level design purposely misleads the player so that he can only see the correct path to take for progression when he backtracks. That, and the theme of the map, really contributes to the adventure feel.

[Anonymous No.7145519]

I went on the internet again today, and I found this.

[Anonymous No.7145520]

>>7145385
>Turdcock
Cringe

And I said became common, it still wasn't the generic tag it is now until Half-Life

[Anonymous No.7145521]

>>7145519
HUH that's pretty good

[Anonymous No.7145524]

>>7145519
Whoa neat, what is that? looks fucking based

[Anonymous No.7145526]

>>7145524
Fanart of Quake and Darkest Dungeon. Last time I went on the internet I found the artist's first part of it.

[Anonymous No.7145528]

>>7145519
>shambler
>axe
His odds aren't looking great here.

[Anonymous No.7145535]

>>7145528
He'll be fine if he can do the dance.

[Anonymous No.7145560]

NEW CIVVIE YALL

It's on various 90s throwback shooters
https://youtu.be/xbQvLjFRUJo

[Anonymous No.7145573]

>>7145560
the more i watch him the more i hate him
and all those retro throwback video games
>look like 90's vidya
>still require fucking space age pcs
kill me

[Anonymous No.7145576]

>>7145573
I can't tell if I'm annoyed with him in general or just right now. It's like Always Sunny, amazing show but sometimes I just need a break from those assholes.

[Anonymous No.7145583]

>>7145576
>>7145573
I've always had mixed feelings about him, sometimes he's funny and make poignant observations, sometimes I just think "God, you fucking scrub."

[Anonymous No.7145603]

>>7145576
>>7145583
he feels like a very carefully fabricated personality, edgy yet safe enough to be consoomed by the current year crowd
the amount of patreons after each video must make him choose his words very carefully

[Anonymous No.7145614]

>>7145494
It's a gross man in a dress, defend your pile of hormone filled poo all you want.
Why do people want to die on these hills? Why do we defend objectively terrible creative direction like this?

[Anonymous No.7145615]

>>7145603
He's cashing hard on the "video game Plinkett" idea, and for the most part it's alright

[Anonymous No.7145630]

>>7145615
i haven't seen any plinkett videos but weren't rlm revealed to be actual hacks?
they made that shitty space cop movie and dismissed all criticisms as "but it's supposed to be bad!"
how can anyone take them seriously after that is beyond me

[Anonymous No.7145640]

>>7145630
It was a shitpost in movie form from the very idea, I don't understand why you are so serious about it.

[Anonymous No.7145642]

>>7145583
I haven't watched any of his videos in a while but I sometimes start giggling uncontrollably when I remember the Voight-Kampff test bit from the PUA game

[Anonymous No.7145647]

>>7145614
>It's a gross man in a dress
Yeah, right at home in a circus freakshow, people used to pay money to see hideous and deformed people put on display, or people with weird body mods. Maybe the intent is that it's a tranny, but being a circus performer all bets are off, and unless the game makes a constant deal about the tranny, I can't imagine it mattering.

[Anonymous No.7145650]

>>7145640
i'm not, i barely even watched them, i'm just regurgitating what i read on /tv/ back then, people were mad
i have no irl friends anymore and this is me socializing

[Anonymous No.7145657]

>>7145630
>they made that shitty space cop movie and dismissed all criticisms as "but it's supposed to be bad!"
What? Have you seen it? It's fucking ridiculous, why would you look at something like that and assume it was 100% serious, knowing full well the irony that those guys swelter in all other productions that they do?

[Anonymous No.7145661]

>>7145650
>i'm just regurgitating what i read on /tv/ back then
One of the most autistic boards by far?

[Anonymous No.7145662]

>>7145630
Their The Recovered movie was a pretty decent low budget movie. They can make good stuff when they care.
Other than this one they usually just made shitpost comedies.

[Anonymous No.7145663]

>>7145661
for you

[Anonymous No.7145685]

>>7145615
He's not really doing a Plinkett thing in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.7145704]

>>7145647
>It's disgusting and belongs in a freakshow, why don't people like it???
The problem is it keeps worming its way into literally everything despite it being universally hated, the message is more important than making money or even making a good game and as previously stated, it's gross.
>B-but they went to the the drudges of society like circus performers so having a character like this makes sense!
Yep, they really went out of their way for it, not forced at all to include the farthest removed corners of a society so you have an excuse to keep child diddlers feeling all inclusive, that way they keep themselves from becoming statistics.

[Anonymous No.7145705]

>>7145685
>old weird guy doing critiques and being goofy occasionally debasing himself
He’s not literally “Plinkett but video games” but I’d imagine there’s far worse comparisons. I also don’t know too many other Youtubers.

[Anonymous No.7145708]

>>7145560
Did he just call Thief boring?

[Anonymous No.7145712]

>>7145704
>the farthest removed corners of a society
So, where you'd find criminal scum?

You're getting hilariously worked up about this.

[Anonymous No.7145714]

>>7145647
>Yeah, right at home in a circus freakshow
I WANT JOJO

[Anonymous No.7145715]

>>7145708
Hey at least that's something controversial and not his usual milquetoast takes.

[Anonymous No.7145718]

>>7145715
I guess.

It just proves how much of a faggot he is anyway.

[Anonymous No.7145721]

>>7145712
>I'm not mad you're mad, drag queens an LGBTQ+ fit right in with literal criminals and circus performers!!!!!

[Anonymous No.7145723]

>>7145560
>its a "game made in modern engine with amateur pixel art and a million eyerape postprocessing effects" episode
Yuck. Despite the brownness, HROT is definitely the most authentic & appealing looking of this bunch.

[Anonymous No.7145727]

>>7145721
>>7145704
>REEEEE ALL TRANNIES ARE PEDOPHILES, HOW DARE YOU PUT A TRANNY IN YOUR GAME?! I'M OFFENDED, BASK IN MY RIGHTEOUS INDIGNATION!

[Anonymous No.7145731]

>>7145715
>controversial
lmao
oldfags will bitch about it for a day and then forget
newfags will either won't even know what thief is or will agree with him
he's getting talked about either way
we're talking about him now
civvie's galaxy brain at work

[Anonymous No.7145735]

>>7145721
>drag queens an LGBTQ+ fit right in with literal criminals and circus performers
I don't understand what argument you're even making here.

[Anonymous No.7145745]

>>7145718
Best thing about Civvie is the sense of dissatisfaction he leaves new viewers with which steers them to better content.

[Anonymous No.7145749]

>>7145731
>People may talk and argue about it so it isn't controversial lel.

[Anonymous No.7145751]

>>7145745
>this shit i made got reposted
my work on this planet is done

[Anonymous No.7145759]

>>7145220
If Daikatana wasn't enough to show you that Romero can't design a good game for shit and needed Carmack and the other id guys to make a good game, I'm not exactly sure why people expected anything else but mediocrity.

[Anonymous No.7145773]

>>7145727
Dilate

[Anonymous No.7145776]

>>7145435
It's a tranny

[Anonymous No.7145779]

>>7145759
Dai-Katana isn't even that bad, with bug fixes and removing the AI companions, the game is overall pretty decent. If he wasn't high of his enormously inflated ego at the time, and arguably cocaine, depending on who you ask, it could have come out better.
You're however right in that he would be well served to have a counterpart to ground him in one way or another.

[Anonymous No.7145781]

>>7145524
Aww I was hoping it was an actual game

[Anonymous No.7145789]

>>7145727

[Anonymous No.7145796]

>>7145789
Yes, I get it, you want to dispense le red pill. Did you know that trannies aren't Retro Games?

[Anonymous No.7145804]

>>7145745
I dont feel he was calling Thief boring , more like its not his type of game. But its such a monumental game it deserves to be known.

I am glad for that faggot from the escapist for telling the gospel of Thief as well.

[Anonymous No.7145827]

>>7145796
Hello, everyone, I like to play vidya.
>Yes so what about trans people
No, that's gross, I'll take my game without that
>Wtf? Why aren't you talking about vidya?

[Anonymous No.7145846]

>>7145827
>mad that no one wants to talk about trans nigs

[Anonymous No.7145851]

>>7145526
>>7145519
reminds me of stories of how quake was meant to have rpg elements and even some non fps view for battles

[Anonymous No.7145859]

>>7141559
Done.
Next question: How do I get Blue Shift to not kill me or the NPC scientists on the elevator?

[Anonymous No.7145889]

>>7145859
the elevator at the start, when the resonance cascade happens? scientists are supposed to die but not you
i think your game version might be fucky

[Anonymous No.7145917]

>>7145859
try standing in different spots in the elevator
if that doesn't work put "sv_cheats 1" and "god" in console and then "god" again after it's over

[Anonymous No.7145920]

>>7145851
Was it actually supposed to have different view for battles? As far as I knew it was going to be a 3D FP RPG like Quake was but with some dialog and npcs and stats. I don't think they could've pulled off a full blown RPG.

[Anonymous No.7145931]

>>7145708
>Don't ask me to make a boring video, I just finished the thief series
I think he's talking about how dull those videos were

[Anonymous No.7145950]

>>7145889
Yeah, the elevator suddenly gets stuck on me or the scientists's model and starts crushing. Probably a clipping error.

[Anonymous No.7145957]

>>7145931
Its his problem.

Instead of doing a mission by mission more indepth approach, he played them like a fucking action fps.

Which is his persona I guess.

[Anonymous No.7145995]

>>7145950
reminds me of how old non-steam versions of hl would freeze you in the air for a second after changing maps
if you were walking or brushing against a wall you'd clip through and get stuck, had to jump

[Anonymous No.7146091]

>>7145560
Where's the Arcane Dimensions video you fat fuck

[Anonymous No.7146105]

You DO do 20 pushups and 100 crunches after each post you make, right? No pain, no gain, haha!

[Anonymous No.7146134]

>>7146105
>POV: you're talking to a guy who just finished reading Masters of Doom

[Anonymous No.7146138]

>>7146134
Never read it, but I assume that's Carmack, and he's based.

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