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7139424 No.7139424 [Reply] [Original]

Why does OPL suck?
>need to use SMB or HDD to have any semblance of compatibility
>need to have dozens of different versions installed for specific games like Ace combat 5
>Klonoa 2 doesn't work
>Outrun 2006 randomly freezes
>Tales of the abyss randomly freezes
>VMCs are a pain in the ass to setup and will randomly corrupt
>Sly 1 has broken physics (not OPL's fault though it's impossible to run off an HDD because it uses the PS1 cpu)
>most english patches don't work
>STILL no proper way to play PS1 games on the only other console that can output them in 240p
>We literally only got a method to install fmcb off a burned disk for PS2 slims this year, 20 years after the console released.
I appreciate the effort and as a whole, OPL is amazing and many hard to find games work well, but fuck is this really the best we can do for the best selling console of all time?
Again don't get me wrong, I didn't have to buy a rotting disk of God hand or Silent Hill 2 and I'm very grateful for that. It also saves consoles with broken disk drives from getting binned which is nice.

>> No.7139429

>>7139424
Isn't there a ODE in development?

>> No.7139430

>>7139424
>VMCs are a pain in the ass to setup and will randomly corrupt
Just buy some memory cards?

>> No.7139432

>>7139424
Oh and I forgot
>mod chips let you play burned PS1 disks, but installing them is basically vascular surgery
>component output is dark and noisy as fuck on all consoles even with the best cables
FUCK

>> No.7139440

>>7139429
which doesn't mean squat.

>>7139424
and development of features and fixing-gamebugs is pretty much non-existant right now.
last big change was GUI-theming.
no, seriously, themes.

>> No.7139445

How the FUCK do you setup FHDB without using a shit premade image?

>> No.7139469

It works on 100% of all the 10 games I know, so it must be a problem on your end. Sorry for that, mate.

>> No.7139535

>>7139424
You forgot
>no linux tools
>OPL and HDloader tools were designed to be run on fucking windows XP by huehues
>The best we have is HDLbatch which doesn't let you remove games what the fuck

>> No.7139539

>>7139535
>OPL and HDloader tools were designed to be run on fucking windows XP by huehues
My country makes me proud again by its sheer autism

>> No.7139547

>>7139432
>>component output is dark and noisy as fuck on all consoles even with the best cables
Sounds like you're just using bad cables, official sony and HDRV are great.

>>7139424
a lot of these are fixed if you just update opl.

>>7139440
>>7139429
rama is making it

>> No.7139551

>>7139424
>>STILL no proper way to play PS1 games on the only other console that can output them in 240p
POPstarter plays them in 240p, but its POPstarter
looks great when you do get a game that runs well though

>> No.7139552

>>7139547
Shut the fuck up faggot, you're absolutely clueless

>> No.7139553

>>7139552
Sounds like you're running an out of date version of opl

>> No.7139558

also there is a patch for some of the 2d fighting games to run them in 240p, there's not a lot of them though

>> No.7139560
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7139560

Based xbox
>easy softmod if you just wanna burn games
>mod chips are cheap and trivial to install
>use a generic IDE to SATA adapter and generic cheap HDD to load up every fucking game you could ever want
>not a single compatibility issue
>proper FTP support
>dont need a memory card
>can even emulate older consoles for a nice all in one experience.

>> No.7139563

>>7139558
works for shadow of the colossus and also improves the framerates too

>> No.7139632
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>>7139560
God even swiss handily outdoes the PS2 softmod scene. So much for the best selling console in the world.

>> No.7139649

>>7139632
only trannies play gcn games on a gamecube

>> No.7139731

>people rush to get shit working when console is new
>no matter how messed up it is, people praise it if it allows them to play pirated games on their PS2
>PS3 is released
>all hackers move on to the new challenge, leave all PS2 shit broken and half finished
>none of the people who care about the PS2 are willing to take the time to learn all the technical details and programming needed to improve the situation
There's your answer.

>> No.7139734

>>7139649
This, cube is the kiddy and the pedo platform simultaneously.

>> No.7139776

>>7139734
Very true

>> No.7139812

A SNDLE JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE

>> No.7139814

>>7139812
fuck wrong tab, thought this was /biz/

>> No.7139820

>>7139424
PS2 uses USB 1.1, you'll always need to run games off a hdd or ethernet.
OPL makes it clear that you should be using actual MCs, VMCs are essentially just a poc.
there will never be a way to boot PS1 games for the same reason Sly doesn't work.
I'll give you game compatibility, although it's more or less the same with the Xbox and GC/Wii.

>>7139432
you shouldn't be running actual discs, specially burned ones, unless you got a later slim, let alone installing a mod chip on your console.
Sony intentionally left design flaws on the PS2 that will blind the laser at best and outright kill it at worst, if you do a poor soldering job with the chip, or play burned/scratched discs.
it's particularly nasty with dragon units (5000x models without the ilink port).

>> No.7139827

>>7139563
where can I find this?

>> No.7139831

>>7139731
>PS2 emulation sucks
>launchers for modded hardware suck
Fortunately you can get around it by burning the game to a dvdr if you have to

>> No.7139935

>>7139424
i feeel your frustaion
i did the smb method, played a game, it worked fine; put another game. BANG! get a white screen, nothing work, need reinstall everthing...
wii, in the other hand, copy the wads to sd and click.
now i'm playing mario kart instead of shadow of the colossus.

>> No.7140147

>>7139535
based hues

>> No.7140185

>>7139820
This isn't true about the mod chip. It has nothing to do with "shit solder job" and everything to do with suicide code Sony put in the MECHACON controller. My understanding is this is mostly a problem on slims and modern mod chips have fixes for it

>> No.7140292

>>7140185
you're right in saying that the problem is the bugged mechacon. but modchips, specially poorly installed ones, with long wires for example, aggravate it. because while the chip does its thing, the mechacon is in a loop state, essentially overworking itself to death.
after a short while this usually translates to a dead pickup, but it can kill your console. every fat PS2 has a bugged mechacon but it's only really a problem with dragon models (5000x). they made the mechacon even buggier, and combined with cheaper internals and subpar cooling, even scratched discs would damage the board itself.
this is not really an issue if you're playing off the hdd/smb mind you. anyway, the first batch of slims was based off the 5000x model and had a notoriously high failure rate, to the point Sony was sued and had to fix the mechacon. so it's actually the opposite, slims (except for the 7000x) are better if you want to chip your console/play discs.
there were a few "fixes" for the mechacon throughout the years, like romeo. but none of them work. recently someone devised a small board that detects if the mechacon is looping, and shuts the console down to avoid (more) damage. but it's hardly a fix. better to just use OPL, really.

>> No.7140295

>>7140292
all you have is just short it you fucking brainlet.

>> No.7140303

>>7140295
short what?

>> No.7140318

>>7139560
totally agree with this based anon. The sad thing is that the Xbox is basically a fugly PIII computer

>> No.7140320

>>7139814
living the dream

>> No.7140368

>>7139424
Klonoa 2 works fine, what the hell are you talking about? It's emulation where klonoa 2 doesn't work. It's fine off an ISO on opl

>> No.7140487

What do you mean there's no proper way to play PS1 games? I'm playing RE1 and Silver Case with popstarter and they tun and look fine as far as i can tell.

>> No.7140508

>>7140368
Klonoa 2 will play properly, but either there are no sounds or they will play out of sync. In OPL they don't play - you can sorta listen to the music if you turn the volume all the way up, but the SFX will be heavily distorted BOOMS and CREAAAKs.

>>7140487
Read >>7139469
Just because it plays your favorite games fine, doesn't mean every game plays like that. Worse, Popstarter plays like shit on a ton of games.

>> No.7140569

More interested in getting them to perfect freedvdboot. Then I can order stamped chink discs of my favorite games.

>> No.7140579

>>7139424
i think it has everything to do with how much of a mess the ps2 is hardware wise. here's to hoping the ps2 ode doesn't fail us

>> No.7140661

>>7140569
>Chink
Crinfe zoom zoom
Nobody sells pressed bootlegs anymore you bum.

>> No.7141023

>>7139827
I made it myself and you can find it here:
https://mega.nz/file/fMg11bqQ#XglRRKov711EqRz6Y6OsUi3nn7wD5704tnhIw2dtl_E

>>7140508
you're running an out of date version of OPL or need to enable the correct modes, it has worked for a while now.

>> No.7141056

>>7141023
thanks for the dolphin porn

>> No.7141082

>>7139632
PS2 is glorified a PowerVR 3dfx machine from 1998 that can't even Run Quake 3 right

>> No.7141089

>>7141023
nice, thanks anon

>> No.7141210

Never had half of your problems dude idk what to tell you. I did run in to issues with Sly 1 at first, Sly wasn't properly grabbing on to objects and other weird things but I recall I was able to resolve that idk how, maybe something with codes I was running or the VMC, yeah when games aren't compatible with the VMC it sucks and all but very few aren't so you won't need much space on your memory card for those games, and they are very easy to set up in the current OPL. Just go in to settings, select slot 1 VMC, create the VMC, save your settings, what is that difficult there? Also idk what english patches you are trying but I've succesfully played all of Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix and most of Kingdom Hearts 1 Final Mix both english patched through OPL no freezes, shit's flawless, even use GSM to force 1080p output res (which does cause the game to freeze on FMV but that's understandable GSM compatability is hit or miss). If an english patch doesn't work it's probably because the person making the patch didn't test it on real hardware, not OPL's fault somehow. Idk about Klonoa 2 though I think I have it on my HDD and never tried to play it, will have to follow up on that.

>> No.7141215

>>7139558
Just run GSM before the game and set it to 240p. You have to find some old build though idk why they remove the 240p option in newer builds and OPL

>> No.7141851

>>7140661
OK retard

>> No.7142493

>PS2 emulators are shit. "Playable with minor glitches" is cope
>OPL launcher on a real PS2 is buggy shit, consult the compatibility list and enable the correct modes before doing anything. You might also have to use an old version because they broke a game. Playing videos over LAN is generally ass
>if you use a burned disc you will destroy your PS2's laser
What do we do piratebros?

>> No.7142747

>>7142493
wait for an ODE in 2025

>> No.7142784
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>>7142493
>if you use a burned disc you will destroy your PS2's laser
W-what?

>> No.7143081

the only bad part of OPL is the fact outrun 2006 crashes, aka the best racing game ever

>> No.7143121
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>>7142493
>>7142784
>>if you use a burned disc you will destroy your PS2's laser
What does this mean? Is this real? S-somebody tell me.
IVE BEEN PLAYING BURNED DISCS ON MY PS2 FOR 10 YEARS PLEASE TELL ME AM I DESTROYING IT

>> No.7143128

>>7142493
>PS2 emulators are shit.
What game can't you play? Only a few don't work with PCSX2 and they're shit anyways.

>> No.7143157

>>7143121
first it don't and a new one is like $20

>> No.7143220

>>7142784
>>7143121
anon is talking about >>7139820 and >>7140292
if you want to play discs get a slim (except a 7000x one)
worse thing that could happen is your laser dying, but they're a dime a dozen on aliexpress

>> No.7143281

>>7143128
>number of games that work perfectly according to the pcsx2 site: 17
The vast majority of games have something wrong with them that may or may not have a workaround. So great for people who don't really give a shit and are okay with "good enough" emulation, I guess it's on the same level of accuracy that very early Nesticle had for the NES.
Redditors who want to post a screenshot of a game running at 4k or playing ps2 games on not a ps2 love it, but if you want to really play the games you still need the hardware.

>> No.7143301

>>7142493
Buy another PS2 or replace the laser if yours dies?
PS2's are like $20.

My late-model slim works great with FreeMcBoot & burned PS2 and PS1 discs.
If it dies I'll just get another one.

>> No.7143449

>>7139424
>Sly 1 has broken physics (not OPL's fault though it's impossible to run off an HDD because it uses the PS1 cpu)
what's broken about the physics? are you sure you aren't retarded and talking about the anti-piracy?

>> No.7143458

>>7143281
>The vast majority of games have something wrong with them
Can you give any example at all?

If there's ever anything wrong, it just takes two clicks to change the renderer or a setting. Are you retarded?

>> No.7143471

>>7139424
I love when I use OPL to play Gran Turismo through SMB, after a dozen attract demos, the AI start to get coked out and drive into walls and the replay camera never changes. It might be my USB to ethernet adapter being shit but still funny and reinforces why SMB isn't the best option.

>> No.7143482

>>7141023
>I made it myself

Impressive and much appreciated for contributing something useful to the community. Care to tell us how you figured it out?

>> No.7143484

>>7143449
Some very rare games use the PS1 chip to do something. One of the Jak games also does it.

>>7143458
"Playable" may range from "perfect" to "only runs at 5fps on hardware mode". Most of the problems are solved by using software mode, which offloads everything to CPU and is not optimal.
And some games don't run at all. A good example is Armodyne.

>> No.7143486

>>7139424
God that looks comfy as hell.

>> No.7143498

>>7143458
I tested it back in February, so I don't know if those were fixed.
- Armored Cores don't show HUD on any hardware mode
- Ace Combats 4 and 5 have various graphical glitches, and only run "good enough" on software mode
- SRW Impact has problems when changing tracks (huge loading)
- The explosion effects in Another Century's Episode 2 are completely wrong

I can recall a few others, but the list is on my computer.

>> No.7143598

>>7139424
Sly cooper uses the ps1 cpu? What? How?

>> No.7143657

>>7143482
Yeah there's a guide on shmups and I just did it for shadow of the colossus, thinking it would work because ICO runs in 240p - them being the same engine technically means it might work. Then it worked and I was really impressed. If you change the display to progressive (480p) in the game settings and then switch back it's still 240p. The game definitely looks rougher but it does seem to run a little smoother, not massively but maybe 4-7 frames smoother at best. This does make a big difference when the game would just drop hard at times.

It still chugs but that's just the nature of it.

>> No.7143740

Cmon bros, step it up.

All you gotta do is make sure you're using the must up to date OPL. Check the game you're playing on this list. Make adjustments and poof. Golden.

https://www.ps2-home.com/forum/page/opl-game-compatibility-list-1

>> No.7143743

>>7143458
>playing SotC on software mode
PCSX2 is otherwise similar to N64 emulation, just "good enough".
funny how angrylion even requires a similarly powerful cpu to run.

>> No.7143765
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>>7139424
Well that sucks.

Why don't you give emulation a try?

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>>7143484
>>7143498
Ace Combat 4 is "playable"
>it just takes 2 clicks to change the settings bro
https://wiki.pcsx2.net/Ace_Combat_04:_Shattered_Skies

>> No.7143795
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7143795

>>7143765
It runs really well

>> No.7143809

>>7143743
>playing SotC on software mode
You just have to change one setting. Change it to hardware mode. As it says on the PCSX2 homepage, stupid. Go to Config > Video (GS) > Plugin Settings, use the OpenGL Hardware Renderer.
>N64 emulation
>angrylion requires a powerful cpu
You want to use mupen64plus. Even a Raspberry Pi can do all the N64 games at full speed now, dumbass.

>> No.7143898

>>7143809
yeah, that's the point, retard. if you're not using software rendering, then ps2 and n64 emulation is a perfect example of the cancerous "good enough" mentality.

>> No.7143949

i bought a used ps2 with OPL from some dude some time ago. It runs games through USB. i've been wanting to put more games in it but i've heard that to do so you have to reformat the entire USB or else they'll show as corrupted. is this true?

>> No.7143978

>>7143949
Don't play games through USB it's shit
Ethernet or HDD are the only real options

>> No.7144006

>>7139424
>most english patches don't work
Which ones? Why?
Berserk and Vampire Panic worked great for me.

>> No.7144048

>>7143949
This poster is right
>>7143978
The PS2 has USB 1.1 which has a transfer speed of 1.5 MB/sec. The PS2 can read DVDs at 5.28 MB/sec.

>> No.7144267

>>7143081
its better on xbox and pc anyways

>> No.7144694

>>7139424
We already have a PS2 for homebrew it's called Dreamcast

>> No.7144761

>>7143779
I'm not trying to be cheeky here. But one of the issues is solved by using Hardware Mode, and the other by using Software Mode. Now you see? This is "good enough", but nowhere near the "works 100%" that people love to tout.

>> No.7144885

Everytime I check out ps2 hacks/homebrew type forums it's always retards with half naked girls (ugly ones, the type youd feel bad for if you saw them in porn) and usually third worlders who just want things for free

Compare this to stuff like the dreamcast where it's just comfy autists, I don't get what makes some scenes cancer and slow and things like dreamcast where those guys have came up with so many replacement parts it's becoming ship of theseus level. AND THE PS2 DOESNT EVEN HAVE A NOCTUA TYPE FAN MOD or simple shit like that.

>> No.7144886

>>7144885
Half naked girls as their avatars and signatures I mean, was editing it and left out a part

>> No.7144908
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Holy shit clean your windows you pig

>> No.7145197

tales of the abyss works fine on my modchipped slim ps2 through network on OPL

>> No.7145227

>>7144885
>Everytime I check out ps2 hacks/homebrew type forums it's always retards with half naked girls (ugly ones, the type youd feel bad for if you saw them in porn) and usually third worlders who just want things for free
this

>> No.7145263

After hearing about all this stuff about OPL, the laser, and MECHACON chip makes me wonder about the possibility of a PS2 ODE, but I'm worried that even if that were possible, it'd probably have to be something like the PSIO or XStation, which requires soldering and other difficult-to-reverse modding, rather than a simple drop-in solution like the GDEMU. Anyone else have any more knowledge about this?

>>7144885
>Everytime I check out ps2 hacks/homebrew type forums it's always retards with half naked girls (ugly ones, the type youd feel bad for if you saw them in porn) and usually third worlders who just want things for free
Jay-Jay?

>> No.7145325

>>7140661
You order them from china yourself. Just send them the iso and the artwork you want printed on the dvd.

>> No.7145389

>>7145197
It "works fine", until the 1st boss. Actually, if you have a save after that boss, the rest of the game also works fine. There's some sort of check (I don't know if it's anti-piracy or not) right on that boss, so the only place it hangs is there.
I recall older versions of OPL also had a big chance to freeze on every battle transition (the now loading effects), but this was fixed in newer versions.

>> No.7145525

>>7144885
ps2 scene was born out of the desire for free shit, that's the difference. nobody cared about the dc except for autists, so you get quality stuff.

>>7145263
psio and xstation are the way they are because some components of the disc drive are in the board itself. so you have to reroute a few things.
I'm not sure but I think the ps2 is the same way. the drive doesn't even have a board attached to it.
now that I think about it, an ode may damage the console the same way modchips/burned or scratched discs do. so it'd probably be safer on a slim.

>> No.7145545

>>7140569
>>7145325
buy a DVD burner retardo

>> No.7145548 [DELETED] 

>>7145545
I learned my lesson trying to burn ps1 games
burning discs are a fool's errand

>> No.7145550

>>7145545
I learned my lesson trying to burn ps1 games
burning discs is a fool's errand

>> No.7145561

>>7145550
PS1 is more sensitive to shitty burns than anything after it. an occasional bad burn from doing them yourself is far less retarded than paying someone somewhere else to do it for you.

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>>7139424
Every time I see one of you faggots talkinge about freemcboot memory cards or playing games through smb I cringe, its all about that matrix modchip shit

>> No.7145785

>>7145613
>adding unnecessary cancer to your console
>cancer that can even damage it

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>>7139560

>> No.7146163

>>7144761
>bro the wiki clearly tells you to enable software and hardware mode at the same time

>> No.7146238

is there any way to fix outrun from crashing randomly? i have modes 1,3, and 6 turned on

>> No.7146376

>>7146238
No, I tried literally everything. ESR patch the iso and burn it.
Again, PS2 is the worst way to play outrun 2

>> No.7146385

>>7146376
shame, it's the best racing game on ps2

>> No.7146390

I feel like Ive played a lot of Outrun 2 ps2 via OPL and never had it crash once. I use smb and if it makes a difference, I'm playing the japanese version.

>> No.7146394

>>7139424
I've played through several guitar hero games using OPL over a network and only ever had issues if I was trying to play while connected to an ethernet port on a wireless access point
i can guarantee it's probably a networking issue if games are freezing or crashing

>> No.7146429

playing over network is for queers
get a hdd so you can take it to your friend's house and play global defense force

>> No.7146476

>>7145785
>citation needed
Have fun with the 10 games you can play with homebrew

>> No.7146489

>>7146429
Travel router + USB Flash drive is also portable...

>> No.7146502

>>7146489
*pushes you into a locker*
shaddup DORK

>> No.7146514

>>7139424
>OPL sucks
lol idiot

>> No.7146554

>>7146476
>citation needed

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>>7146554
Listen I don't understand what this fearmongering about modchips damaging your console is, if hues and thirdworlders could figure it out and do it reliably every single time I'm sure you should have no problem with it

>> No.7146575

>>7145545
I'm interested in repros of disc games. Stamped games look better and last longer.

>> No.7146673

>>7146570
>>7146570
>>7139820 and >>7140292
this stuff is easily verifiable too

>> No.7146696

>>7139424
shit

>> No.7146728

>>7146673
I haven't seen a fat ps2 in my entire life so you may be right on that

>> No.7146740

>>7143898
What are you trying to say? Just use the setting that works best for your game.
"Good enough" isn't a cancerous mentality unless you're actually autistic enough to get triggered over your children's toys not being exactly the same as you remember them when you were 9 years old.

>> No.7147091

>>7146740
hardware mode is often buggy and missing several effects. it's not about "what works best", it's literally broken in several regards.

>> No.7147414

>>7145525
That sucks. I really wish someone could figure out a solution to the MECHACON problem, at least on the affected models.

>> No.7148584

>>7145613
>not already having a fat PS2 with network adapter and IDE hard drive sitting around and making your own freemcboot memory card for literally free
I'm also able to use burned discs on softmod and grind down my PS2's laser if I feel like it

>> No.7148617

>>7146740
>"Good enough" isn't a cancerous mentality unless you're actually autistic enough to get triggered over your children's toys not being exactly the same as you remember them when you were 9 years old.
At least you admit the emulation is bad and noticeably inaccurate. It's for dumb zoomers to play for 10 minutes and wax nostalgic about the "old" days of Sonic X and Linkin Park, not to play the games as originally intended.

>> No.7149001

i tried playing The Bouncer but the game wont recognize me pressing the START button

>> No.7149012

>>7148617
Boomer here. I don't want to play PS2 games as they were because I'm not a nostalgia fag.
A lot of the PS2 games were too good for the shit hardware that the PS2 was.

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>>7149012

>> No.7149034

>>7139424
works on my machine

>> No.7149787

>>7139424
>opl sucks
>only the faggots at cybdyne are working on an ODE
>emulation sucks
I fucking hate the PS2

>> No.7149882

>>7143795
The wiki entry is out of date. On the the newer PCSX2 builds so long as you set the video plugin to use OpenGL all the graphics issues are fixed. The sound issue is still present but can be fixed using the workarounds mentioned on there.

>> No.7149918

>>7147091
>hardware mode is often buggy and missing several effects.
In that case, just switch to software mode. Go to Config > Video (GS) > Plugin Settings
This isn't rocket science.

>> No.7150245

>>7149918
yeah, now we're back to the original point you moron.
>playing SotC on software mode

>> No.7150746
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>>7145613
have a slim PS2 w/ this installed sitting in a box for a few years now, tried booting it up recently and noticed the laser was fucked as it was no longer reading discs

I wonder if its worth ordering a new laser to get it working again, it's not like I've been chomping at the bit to play PS2 games these days.

Except maybe Ape Escape 3. Haven't played that sumbich in years and my PC is too shit to emulate it at full speed.

>> No.7150819

>>7139424
>>7139432
>>7139535
>>7149787
> be losers of /vr/
> complains about a certain scene
> WHY YOU NOT DO WHAT WE SAY
> contributes nothing to advance the state of scene
> can't code
> can't dump games
> can't understand hardware architecture
> can't do anything except screech on an image board
never stop failing, /vr/. how about stop crying and actually do something about it? fucking morons.

>> No.7150885

>>7149001
THE BOUNCER
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DAURAGON C. MIKADO

>> No.7151237

>>7139424
>PS2 homebrew scene

I'd imagine that ultimately a huge factor comes down to the ability to easily debug games without an official dev kit? There are cycle accurate emulators that have debugging tools built right into them for most really old systems. PS2 emulation is shit in comparison so not really helpful for homebrew. I'm not aware of any tools you can install on a consumer PS2 for debugging purposes. Most people don't have the technical skill to mod their own PS2 into some kind of dev unit, assuming there are even schematics for such mods. So pretty much all you can do is build, deploy, manually play, and try to catch bugs by using debug code in your program itself to do memory dumps.

>> No.7151275

why would you even want to make ps1 homebrew?

I can understand old 2d consoles or even the PSX since they all have their own unique aesthetics, but the PS2 is basically just a worse version of the PS3 which is a worse version of the PS4 etc...

>> No.7151323

>>7150819
Someone needs to call you a faggot. Guess that duty falls to me.