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So what's the best model of PS2? I've read a ton of conflicting reports.

Going to be using component cables and using the DVD-drive. Not doing any modding or anything so laser quality is important

>> No.7119341

>>7119335
the original because its tray loading so you cna put it under a tv

>> No.7119347

>>7119335
>So what's the best model of PS2?
PC.
/thread

>> No.7119349

Slim, obviously

>> No.7119358

>>7119341
Yeah but the slim is so tiny it fits anywhere

>>7119349
Yeah but there's like 5 different Slims

>> No.7119365

>>7119358
If you're not modding it then who cares?

This is an old 2nd hand system. Whatever one is in best condition and wasn't left on the floor in a house with a smoker who owned a dog 5 cats and never vacuumed.

Slim is so so much smaller and more quiet than the fat. They really stretched out this gen. so the size difference is just massive.

>> No.7119367

They cut corners on the slims. One of the fats would be better.

>> No.7119368

>>7119358
7000x
Its the only slim model that has Ps1 hardware like the fat models, the other slims do it through emulation. You'll get a bit better backwards compatibility and a few Ps2 games use the Ps1 hardware.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_games_incompatible_with_PlayStation_2

>> No.7119385

>>7119335
The old fat models had the better laser but they were more likely to be used as the family DVD player for 5 years

>> No.7119441

>>7119335
SCPH-3900x are the best models, period.

>> No.7119495

>>7119368
Thanks bro. This is actually good info

>> No.7119571

do they still sell new PS2s?

>> No.7119592

>>7119571
Reed New

>> No.7119669

>>7119347
PCSX2 is awful. and largely due to its developers. it's the same as the N64 in the sense that "it's good enough" but even software mode has several issues while still being a resource hog.

>>7119335
based on what you said, either the 7900x (external power supply) or 9000x (internal power supply), the last slim revisions. they're the most reliable with the best laser. it'll still go blind if you make heavy use of it though, but thankfully they're cheap and easy to replace. avoid 5000x fats and 7000x slims for the reason below, even though they do have full PS1 compatibility.
if that's something you want, well, I'd still recommend a 79 or 90 model, but get an old fat instead. 3900x and V5/6 (no easy way to identify) are fine-ish. older would be better, but their lasers are shit and replacement parts are hard to come by.

>>7119368
the very first batch of slims also has an intentional hardware bug that eventually kills the console. same with 5000x models. it's not really an issue if you play off the hdd, or stream, but even if you use genuine discs exclusively, the PS2 might still shit itself to the point it won't even turn on anymore.

>>7119441
that's a myth. people started it because it's the last model with the firewire port, which nobody uses, and the hardware issues with the 5000x. problem is, 3900x also suffers from these issues. it's not as bad, though. but it's also the loudest model.

>>7119571
only from collectors on ebay. but you can get a "new" one off aliexpress.

>> No.7119782

>>7119669
Thanks a ton.

Going to be going with a PS1 for my PS1 games. I'm coming from using a PS3 for PS1 games. Never again. Going with original hardware from now on

>> No.7120023

>>7119782
no problem. in that case definitely get a 7900x or 9000x, they're the best models if you're actually using discs.
the internal psu shouldn't be a problem but having an external one means it's easier to replace it. just in case.
9000x should be easier to find though, maybe even new.

>> No.7120125

>>7119335
>Fat
+capable of using internal HDD
+cooler design
+perfect PS1 compatibility
-dogshit disc drive prone to failure

>Slim
+much more reliable disc drive (but some models can shit the bed with their PSU or whatever)
+very compact form factor
-lame top-loading disc drive
-not capable of internal HDD (and using USB won't help because PS2 only supports USB 1.0 speed which is slower than fuck)
-worse PS1 compatibility

>> No.7120145

>>7120125
Another pro for the slim is the built in network port that you can load games over

>> No.7120151

>>7120125
>disc drive prone to failure

Thats just the 30000, not 39 or 50.

That being said op, the most "reliable" model is going to be one that hasn't burnt out from being both a Playstation and a DVD player for over a decade.

>> No.7120268

>>7120125
>-not capable of internal HDD (and using USB won't help because PS2 only supports USB 1.0 speed which is slower than fuck)
You can easily play games via SMB using OPL with a raspi and a decently sized SSD.

>> No.7120556

>>7119441
this

>> No.7120567

>>7119335
5xxxx or 77xxx models are generally seen as the best fat and slim respectively. Avoid 70xxx as it has a major fault with the controller for the disc laser, avoid earlier fats as they overheat like a motherfucker. 9xxxx series can be good if you don't intend to play PS1 games (they removed the PS1 processor to save costs).

>> No.7120582

>>7120556
>>7120567
50 fats share the same hardware flaw as 70 slims you just mentioned. so do 39 fats, and V5/6 for that matter. to a lesser extent, but still.
PS2 also does not overheat unless you're talking about the really early modular ones. and even then, it was a rare occurrence.
and if memory serves, every slim except the very first one (the faulty one) lacks PS1 internals.

>> No.7120606

I just dug my old fat PS2 out of storage a couple days ago. What sort of modding can I do with it?

>> No.7120613

>>7120606
free mcboot, games off a hdd with a sata adapter.

>> No.7120614

>>7120582
Yeah, I mixed up when the PC emulator was added, it was the 75xxx run, the 77xxx did have the improved version of the emulator (the one in the PSTV) without the cheap internals of the 9xxxx series, so I would still recommend the 77xxx as the best slim.
As for overheating, most fats had overheating problems here, but that is what I get for living in Aussie desert.

>> No.7120617

>>7120614
wat model is the 77xxx

>> No.7120623

>>7120617
Not sure how many there are, mine is an SCPH-77002 model number. For people listing off PS2 models, they will normally say either (number)xxxx for the broad range of a generation of PS2, or for some models (3xxxx, 5xxxx, 7xxxx are the ones I see it most for) the second number gets listed for more clarity.

>> No.7120625

>>7120623
i live in canada

>> No.7120627

>>7120623
is that the best model for ps1 and ps2 games

>> No.7120635

>>7120627
https://www.strawpoll.me/35220697

>> No.7120646

>>7120635
that's kinda misleading. board version would be more accurate. also, 50004 is the same as 50000. last number is just the region (0 = jp, 1 = usa, 3 = eu, etc.)

>> No.7120652

retards saying the slims are "more reliable" are just that, tards.

there is no dust cover whatsoever the exhaust fan sucks in literally anything nearby and dumps it directly onto the DVD lens arm

i have had to clean/"fix" At least three like this


no issues with the fat
Just get whatever one you can locally
they are both cheap and disposable


mcboot Is only compatible with certain slims however

>> No.7120672

>>7120652
yeah, because dust certainly is more fatal than a hardware/software flaw designed to kill your system.

>> No.7120918

>>7119335
If you're keeping it stock, any slim model is perfectly fine

>> No.7121069

>>7119335
SCPH-7900x series for sure, the only slim without a tendency to scratch rings in your prized game discs.

>> No.7121105

Cheap fucks, why can't they design and build decent machines? My 7yo Asus mobo has over 5 years of runtime and no faults. Foxconn can't build for shit. They made the PS2s right?

>> No.7121116

>>7119335
I remember hacking my slim by strategically putting tissue paper in the right places so it always thinks the disc tray is closed

>> No.7121132

>>7120652
I have to agree with this. Slims disc trays are flimsy cheap pieces of shit.
If you're buying used, avoid slims at all costs. Went through 3 slims that wouldn't read discs consistently, then finally got a phat and never had a single problem

>> No.7121184

>>7121132
Well fuck, this makes me nervous.

>> No.7121342

>>7119669
What hardware issues with the 5000x series are there? I have one and it's lasted me years and oh so silent.

>> No.7121385

>anecdotal evidence, the thread
The fact is the latest model slim is going to be the most unused and most reliable.

>> No.7121514

>>7121184
it's coincidence. at this point you'll want whatever unit you can find with the least amount of use. 15 years later, all laser pickups are bound to be shit.
I couple years back I got myself a fat with a working 400b in better shape than most lasers I ever used. 400b is one of the worst pickups by the way.
if you're actually going to play discs, then you'll have to learn a thing or two about maintaining your console. that goes doubly if they're backups. just avoid 5000x fats and 7000x slims.

>>7121342
it more or less only applies if you're playing discs, not off the hdd, etc.
Sony left a flaw in the disc drive controller. if you play burned discs, or even scratched ones, the laser will overwork itself to the point it'll go blind in less than a year.
5000x fats and 7000x slims have several design flaws, like cheap capacitors, weaker cooling (the reason why it's silent) and even worse controllers, which all contribute to not only the laser going blind, but the actual components on the board overheating and dying. worse case scenario the PS2 won't even boot.

>> No.7121520

>>7121385
anecdotal evidence is more valuable to me than your vague assumption. The reason these console revisions come out is to cut costs and sell more, not necessarily making them more reliable.

>> No.7121550

>>7121520
it largely depends on what you're looking for. laser-wise, there isn't a good option, they're all shit. so you might as well aim for the newest unit with the least amount of use.
there's no notable hardware flaw in 79 or 90 units either, so in op's case they're probably his best shot.

>> No.7121579

>>7121520
I got an ASSumption for you.

*brappp*

>> No.7121584
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7121584

>>7121385
Especially this one

>> No.7121602

>>7121514
>cheap capacitors, weaker cooling (the reason why it's silent) and even worse controllers
I'm going to need some sources for this.

>> No.7121638

>>7121602
>capacitors
disregard that, I suck cocks. meant resistors. these issues are well known and have been documented throughout the years. you can just google it. for example: https://www.ps2-home.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6958
same with the fan. I believe it's the same as previous ones, only under volted. being quiet was a huge selling point for dragon units. except that it only aggravated the issue with lasers/BAs/resistors overheating.

>> No.7121658

Fat if you want to run FMCB without having to fiddle with external storage for your games
Slim if you want faster disk reading for better load times

>> No.7121713

>>7120268
Or a cheapo laptop running Ubuntu.

>> No.7121852

>>7121638
thanks anon, this helps. I got a 5000x thinking it was one of the more regarded models. Hopefully it doesn't crap out on me. I mostly use the HDD with ISO's of games so I should be alright.