/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.7117574]

The only handheld sonic game that's any good.

[Anonymous No.7117593]

>>7117574
Sonic Blast is underrated.

[Anonymous No.7117597]

Sonic the Hedgehog Pocket Adventure and Tails Adventure are alright

[Anonymous No.7117613]

>pic unrelated

[Anonymous No.7117809]

Sonic Battle exists
Sonic Advance 1 and 2 exists
>>7117597 exists

Advance 3 is the Knuckles Chaotix of the trillogy, hence why its shit on terms of gameplay.
Bosses and music were great.

[Anonymous No.7117812]

balance hack when?
fuck Creamniggers

[Anonymous No.7117919]

>>7117597

Yep.

[Anonymous No.7118075]

>>7117574
>just run in a straight line at the speed of sound untill you crush into fucking spikes and other obstacles that you have no way of reacting to because we're fixated on excessive speed and bad level design
No thanks, I'll just play Sonic 3 instead

[Anonymous No.7118186]

>>7117574
Advance 1 is the best one and Triple Trouble gets the second place, so clearly not. Also >>7117597
It's better than Advance 2 at least.
>>7118075
>not playing actually good console games like S1, S1-8bit, SCD or &K instead

[Anonymous No.7118189]

>>7117809
>DUHH CHARACTER FOLLOW YOU SO IT KNUX CHAOTIX
wow i guess sonic 2 is the knuckles chaotix of the genesis trilogy

[Anonymous No.7118193]

>>7118075
this is just the same bad faith criticism nintendrones apply to every sonic game. maybe actually play it first

[Anonymous No.7118201]

advance 1 and 3 are both easily better than sonic 1, cd and 2. they just trigger the soi manchildren who've been lying to themselves the past 14 years that sonic games are only good when you can only play as sonic (despite the sonic-only games being the ones no one actually liked) or retarded zoomers who think sonic games are about watching sonic blast down a hallway cause that's all they've ever known from post-secret rings sonic

[Anonymous No.7118292]

>>7118201
Sonic 1 was great.
CD is respectable, though actually exploring large 2D levels in 4 possible versions each wasn't for me.
2 was dumbening down on top of mostly shit levels.
Sonic-only games were pretty good before the boost and spindash, but Advance 1 is still the best game for a more varied gameplay and is the best 2D Sonic game overall.

[Anonymous No.7118358]

>>7118189
except Sonic 2 isn't focused on tag-team element, you can just play the entire game and reach high corners without the need of Tails.

[Anonymous No.7118368]

*blocks your path*

[Anonymous No.7118371]

>Advance 3
man i do love those damage box placements
>Ocean Base Zone Act 1
>stand near a hovering platform
>dies as it comes down on the pixel of sonic's shoe

[Anonymous No.7118389]

>>7118368
Peak soul, but SMS version is better.

[Anonymous No.7118398]

>>7118389
Not really, no.
Less colors, less assets, less sound, vertical scrolling issues, game design was not optimized for the SMS' screen resolution.

[Anonymous No.7118464]

>>7118358
you can ignore your teammate entirely in advance 3. just use a teamup that gives the lead character moves that work best for you. the tag team move is entirely optional

[Anonymous No.7118468]

>>7117574
What about Sonic Advance 1 and 2? Also I heard Sonic Blast Adventure on DS was decent.

[Anonymous No.7118498]

>>7118464
you still need tag-team to unlock special zones, not with Sonic 2

[Anonymous No.7118502]

>>7118468
>Sonic Blast Adventure
Sonic RUSH Adventure
not retro, but the level design is a step up.

[Anonymous No.7118513]

>>7118498
no, you don't. just use tails or knuckles when you want to find chao. are manchildren just clinically unable to play as characters besides sonic or something

[Anonymous No.7118556]

>>7117919
Isn't this just Sonic 2?

[Anonymous No.7118564]

>>7118398
I always assumed it was made for the SMS since many deaths in the GG version of Sonic 1 and 2 are because you can't see which is not an issue on the SMS. Sonic titles after that were made for GG don't have that problem anymore since .

[Anonymous No.7118578]

Not retro

[Anonymous No.7118585]

>>7118201
As somebody who grew up with the Advance games and played them religiously during my youth, I'd just like to say that you're insane. They feel like shit, the level design is aids and aestetically they borrow way too much from the earlier games.

Power ranking of 2D Sonic:

CD > 1 > 3&K > 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rush >>> Rush Adventure > Advance 1 > 3 > 2

[Anonymous No.7118626]

>>7118585
>Rush games better than Advance games
>CD better than 1
>3&K better than 2
Holy shit taste, batman.

[Anonymous No.7118658]

>>7118585
wow so a retard played the advance games and didn't like them. thanks for the info

[Anonymous No.7118659]

>>7118564
>I always assumed it was made for the SMS
The SMS version did come out first, but only like a month earlier or so, likely they spent a bit more time with the GG version and that's why it's more polished.
According to Yuzo Koshiro, he founded Ancient as a company in order to develop Sonic 1 for Game Gear, he never even mentions the SMS version.
>many deaths in the GG version of Sonic 1 and 2 are because you can't see which is not an issue on the SMS. Sonic titles after that were made for GG don't have that problem anymore since .
The one who has the issue with the screen is actually Sonic 2 (most infamous for the very first boss battle in the game). Sonic 1 however, doesn't have this issue and in fact, as I said, there's some issues with the SMS version instead. Sonic 1 was the only one developed by Ancient, it was not the same developer as Sonic 2, btw.
Basically, Sonic 1 is better on GG, while Sonic 2 is better on SMS.

[Anonymous No.7118695]

>>7118659
are all other Sonics better on GG or any of them besides 2 better on SMS?

[Anonymous No.7118707]

>>7118626
>Rush games better than Advance games
The Rush games do everything the Advances games do but better. The soundtrack alone is worth more than anything the GBA titles have to offer.

>CD better than 1
Sonic CD is almost a straight up remake of Sonic 1, just with bigger levels, more moves, and better music. I could understand preferring the MD original but the CD game's positives are as clear as night and day.

>3&K better than 2
Easily. 3&K at least attempted to stay true to it's roots, with a nice blend of speed and exploration. Sonic 2 is just:
"gotta go fas-OH SHIT A BADNIK*Rings sound*"

[Anonymous No.7118716]

>>7118695
I think most of them were developed with GG in mind, I only reapply played Sonic Chaos on GG besides 1 and 2, and Chaos was pretty good, didn't have any issues. The only one that's infamous on GG is Sonic 2 really.

[Anonymous No.7118736]

>>7118707
the only game rush is remotely similar to is advance 2. it doesn't innovate off of 1/3, it just kinda retries

i like rush too but the boost elements still limit the mechanics in a way the more free, movement-based mechanics of advance 1 and 3 didn't

[Anonymous No.7118741]

>>7118707
Rush games are basically better versions of Advance 2, the worst of the trilogy. At most you can say that they are better than Advance 3 if it's jank ruins the game for you, but not really.
CD being bigger doesn't necessarily make it better, also the music point is HIGHLY subjective. You might be into it if you like exploration, but S1 is a tighter experience overall.
3&K is really suffers from having S3 part. &K by itself is pretty good though.
Also, Advance 1 is better than at least S2 and S3, especially if you play it as someone other than Sonic.

[Anonymous No.7118748]

>>7118498
>you still need tag-team to unlock special zones
Not him, but I never had to use tag-team mechanics to unlock special zones.

[Anonymous No.7118875]

1 feels like an above average fan game.

2 is the laziest of the Advance ones and the epidemy of DIMPS' utter in ability to design a good stage.

Every level is suspended over a bottomless pit, Grind rails and speed pads play the stages for you and god help you if you want to explore routes because enemies and spikes are placed at the most retarded spots possible on purpose.

3 is just a mess and you can tell they had just given up.

Rush is just more of the same zombie-Sonic shit establish in the Advance series

[Anonymous No.7119145]

>>7118875
For some reason the Sonic Advance trilogy feels like its reacting too hard to bad faith criticisms.
1 admittedly does feel slow, but it felt properly scaled to the resolution of the GBA. But they took all the "too slow" complaints and made 2 so fast everything about it suffers for it.

[Anonymous No.7119203]

>Advance 1
>competent game but just a lesser Genesis title in everyway
>Advance 2
>some of the worst, blandest stage design I've ever seen in a platformer. Literally every stage feels identical. Great music and aesthetic though
>Advance 3
>better stage design, great sprite work, not ad solid as advance 1 but at least its not just a watered down genesis title
>Rush
>same as advance 2 - shit level design with overused setpieces and overreliance on bottomless pits, but great music and aesthetic

Never played rush 2

[Anonymous No.7119224]

>>7118201
advance 1 and 3 are both easily better than sonic 1, cd and 2. they just buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword
Opinion discarded.

[Anonymous No.7119237]

>>7119203
IMO, Rush Adventure was better than Rush when it came to the actual levels.

[Anonymous No.7119239]

>>7119224
i'm sorry you can't read

[Anonymous No.7119294]

>>7118502
Thanks for the correction, my bad. No shit it isn't retro, the guy brought up the whole series.

[Anonymous No.7119770]

>>7118075
>posts walter
>has shit taste
Sonic Advance isnt as good as 3 but its really good. You are bad at video games.

[Anonymous No.7120386]

Why Sonic Adventure 2 is the Best Sonic Game Ever Made

[Anonymous No.7120389]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l5LhMyVssw

[Anonymous No.7121714]

>>7117597

Tails Adventure is a pure soul and comfiness. Pocket Adventure is technically ok, when you want some more official classic (almost classic) sonic. PA definetely has a better level design than a Advance 1.

[Anonymous No.7121719]

>>7121714
it's a 10/10 game, IGN said so.

[Anonymous No.7121724]

>>7117574

3rd is the most ambitious of them. But it was 2006, so it's always most buggy. Also levels are clusterfuck, but some people like it this way.

[Anonymous No.7122693]

Man I haven't been here in forever, did /v/ and /vr/ have a huge ass split or something? cause I only see Sonic threads around here anymore it seems.

[Anonymous No.7122723]

>>7117613
This, fuck Advance 3, it doesn't even have tiny chao garden.

[Anonymous No.7123725]

Advance 1 is pure comfort, not overly hard, and it's definitely Pocket Adventure quality. The less pacey gameplay and stage gimmicks work in its favour.

Advance 2 feels nothing like Advance 1. Keeping up speed is rewarded wkth a boost, and air tricks can extend forward/upward momentum. This'd be great if the level design was more obvious where to go and what directions to hold on crazy upside down runways you're supposed to catch, as well as rails you can miss and sections where you NEED the upward trick or you die. No signposts or nothing, just fail and you're down a bottomless pit. These problem sections are learnable and good runs are possible, just utter bullshit for a first time player. Also special stages are more of a bitch to get to every game in the Advance series, and i'd honestly recommend against it in 2 onwards.

Have never done 3 but am interested. I hear the first playthrough is the only bullshit, then you can experiment with chars and have fun. Also terrible first zone.

[Anonymous No.7124490]

>>7117574
What does Chris think of the Advance series?

[Anonymous No.7124678]

>>7123725
It is weird to react to the complaints that everyone plays nearly identically and the individual skills they do have don't really matter given how speed based the level design is by making team ups change how everyone plays then lock all the characters behind beating the game with sonic.

[Anonymous No.7124725]

>>7124678
you unlock knuckles in the second zone and then amy like half way through the game. there's cream too who's almost at the end but she's the most superficial of the characters and gives the lamest teamup ability

i do agree that locking the characters off was a weird decision, no less making them only unlockable with sonic. but i guess they didn't want players cheesing levels with tails or knuckles then getting rewarded for it. or something.

[Anonymous No.7125192]

>>7124678
I just did all Advance 2 emeralds as Soni- YEAH FUCKING RIGHT I gave up redoing the last level again and just slapped a savestate right at the special stage. Ain't no one got time for that. Given you need at least 5 tries to learn the last special stage layout and a fair few at finding the best ring lines I'm happily saving myself the frustration.

Also, I just read you have to all emeralds everyone to get Amy, SONIC TEEEEEEEEEEAM

[Anonymous No.7125575]

>>7117574
My main complaint with Advance 3 is that Amy's hammer is nerfed compared to Advance 1 which isn't fun.

[Anonymous No.7126031]

>>7118201
>advance 1 and 3 are both easily better than sonic 1, cd and 2.
They're better than 3 & gay for sure.

[Anonymous No.7126041]

>>7125192
>SONIC TEEEEEEEEEEAM
They didnt make the game. They havent made MOST Sonic games...