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7112204 No.7112204 [Reply] [Original]

The real winners of 5th gen were N64 and Saturn combined. Together they offer better stuff than what the buff new guy offered.

>> No.7112210

nah

>> No.7112214

This is the first time I've seen someone make this comparison, but I can't say it doesn't fit.

>> No.7112216

>>7112204
I don't care I just want to say that pre-Frieza Dragon Ball has such a good art style + colors. I don't know why, I just fucking love it. Dr.Slump too but I prefer the manga

>> No.7112226

>>7112204
Vegeta (PS1) > Goku (N64) > Piccolo (Shiturn)

>> No.7112230

>>7112226
>shiturn shitposter is a ps1 fanboy
Not surprised.
I was thinking more along the lines of Piccolo being Nintendo and Goku being Sega. 2 old rivals who had to fight a powerful new threat, and one of them dies in the process.

>> No.7112236

>>7112230
>2 old rivals
Americans don't know that they were rivals. For them anything before Saiyan/Vegeta bullshit doesn't exist for some reason

>> No.7112237

>>7112230
Sega wasn't more powerful than Nintendo, though.

>> No.7112249

>>7112236
Well I'm not from USA, I watched DB first.
Still, it was evident that they were rivals though, they even say how they have to forcefully join forces to fight Raditz, and then when Goku dies and Piccolo takes Gohan with him, Krilin and the others go in panic mode, Piccolo's not a friend (at that point).

>> No.7112258

>>7112249
Piccolo was never really a friend as far as I remember. He was the original Shonen Jump edgelord antihero even before Vegeta. It's been a while since I watched Dragon Ball though, I don't even remember how Piccolo died

>> No.7112267

>>7112258
The main thing with Piccolo is that him (or rather, his father) was known as basically The Devil, which was kinda true since he was the embodiment of God's bad or impure side, whatever. But then I think things change when he becomes Gohan's master, and Piccolo/Kami's origins are revealed, he's not a monster or a demon/god, he's an alien and there's many like him. In Namek, Piccolo also fuses with that other namekian warrior, and at that point he's basically a total Earth ally and a Z senshi, he's a friend.

>> No.7112271
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>>7112258
>>7112267
oh and he dies defending Gohan, which is what I'd consider the moment you see Piccolo has truly become a good guy.

>> No.7112283
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>>7112267
>>7112271
Damn I really like that art, now I remember

>> No.7112705

>>7112204
>The real winners of 5th gen were the losers
probably not

>> No.7112713

>>7112705
Probably from the perspective of playing these consoles' libraries nowadays.
N64 and Saturn offer the best 3D and best 2D of 5th gen and together they have a number of games that frankly can take over PS1.

>> No.7112958

>>7112226
>>7112230
>N64 let's itself willingly killed off
yep that's sound like the N64 all right

>> No.7112964

>>7112958
improve your english man.

>> No.7112986

>>7112204
PC >>> PS1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saturn >> N64 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaguar = 3DO >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amiga CD32

>> No.7112997
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7112997

What are the Shorty and Scarface of video games?

>> No.7113000

>>7112986
>Jaguar = 3DO
no way, 3do is way better than that atarishit.

>> No.7113025

>>7112997
the PocketStation and the PSVita TV.

>> No.7113026

nah Metal Gear Solid alone wins the gen for me

>> No.7113028

>>7113026
Thief > MGS

>> No.7113049

>>7113028
not in a thousand years

>> No.7113060

>>7113049
I agree, we're talking right now and ever since those games came out.

>> No.7113086
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7113086

>>7113028
Based.

>> No.7113097

>>7113086
thief 1 is so shit in comparison to mgs1, you guys are nostalgia fags

>> No.7113159

>>7113097
>nostalgia
look where you are nigga

>> No.7113179

>>7112204
>being this delusional

Also: cope

>> No.7113185

>>7112204
So it's better to spend more money on two consoles because they're supposed to be better combined? As opposed to buying the one console that had 3x the lifespan, 5x as many games and had everything to offer in one place?

You're a fucking moron.

>> No.7113210

>>7112226
Playstation=goku. Almost always wins because of plot armor. Regularly defeats new foes who are supposedly more powerful
Sega=piccolo. Supposed to be a threat, but is just a glorified jobber
Nintendo=vegita. Get oversold as this powerful force to be reached with, but glory days ARE LONG gone now just second banana to a former rival and ultimately just a top tier loser. Better than the other losers, but still a loser.
Microsoft=Broly. Supposed ultimate badass, but that always loses in the end anyway.

>> No.7113236

>>7113185
I don't think that's the point. Today you can play the whole libraries for free through emulation, or just use an everdrive on N64 and CD-R backups on Saturn and PS1.

>> No.7113253

>>7112204
Saturn has great racing games, great shooters, great arcade style games, great beat em ups, lacking 3D action games, great RPGs, great strategy games, great fighters
N64 has great platformers, a lot of racing games, a lot of wrestling games, popular multiplayer titles

Nah, PS1+Saturn is still the best combo, N64 just doesn't have much to offer

>> No.7113259

>>7113253
There's too much overlap between Sat and PS, N64's multiplayer alone makes it a better combo with either Sat or PS, but ultimately I'd go with Saturn for better arcade ports and 2D games.

>> No.7113298

>>7112997
Holy shit dude, for 20 years I've had a hazy memory of some dark, creepy DBZ episode but was never able to find it, including a few weeks ago. Your throaway comment was what finally lead me to it, so thanks for the unintentional help!

>> No.7113314
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>>7113298
the early DBZ filler episodes are so strange but comfy at the same time.

>> No.7114478

>>7112236
But we watched DB (original) 3 years later, anon. Yes, you're right, it's way better. But Piccolo talks about being Goku's enemy in the first episode of DB and also in the SNES games which were some of the earliest ones fan translated to English.

>> No.7114483

>>7114478
*in the first episode of DBZ; *also in some of the SNES games (eg, Legend of the Super Saiyan, Hyper Dimension)

>> No.7114486

>sony is bigger than ever
>sega is dead
If anything Nintendo is Alucard who teamed up with Sony who is Ritcher the new foe to the player to kill Dracula who is Sega the real old rival to the player

>> No.7114793

>>7114478
Secret factor for the zoomies on this board: the original Dragon Ball aired before Z in the USA. Yes, it's the truth, you can google it. There is even a song called 'this isn't the tenka-ichi-budokai' by an American punk band which was recorded in like 1996

>> No.7114871

>>7112204
Raditz was more like the Dreamcast. This new power that outclassed what was currently the standard, but was soon forgotten when an even bigger power arrived soon after.

Also, is Yaumcha the Ngage?

>> No.7115024

>>7112986
PC elitist

>> No.7115219

>>7114793
I'm not Gen Z. I watched DBZ, then DB soon after, sometimes both in one day. Technically, DB aired first in America, but home video for a non-established cartoon didn't do well, and anime was not syndicated too often then (late 80s).

>> No.7115227
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>>7112705
OP is canadian

>> No.7115235
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>>7114793
>>7115219
The history of Dragon Ball in the west is very fascinating actually.
As far as I know the first attempt to bring DB to USA was by Harmony Gold (same guys who created Robotech out of Macross, Southern Cross and Mospeada), I think they renamed the series "Zero and the magic dragon" or something, and Goku was called Zero. Some other characters also had different names, like Yamcha = Redacki.
AFAIK it did air in USA for a bit, or maybe cable TV, but it didn't go very far, I think maybe only the Pilaf episodes, or up to the tenkaichi budokai or so.
What's more interesting is that somehow, this early localization by Harmony Gold was also used for the very first attempt at localizing dragon ball in Mexico (and the rest of latin america, which gets the mexican dub), I think this was around 1995 or so. However, quickly after, Mexico did a new dub, this time with the correct names, and they continued and did the whole series, and then Z. By 1996, Dragon Ball, the original, was a hit in all of Latin America.
USA had to wait a bit more, as it wasn't until around 1999 or 2000 that DBZ started getting popular in Toonami, and the original DB, as far as I know, was like a "side-series", they didn't watch DB first, and then DBZ, something like both aired at the same time, but Z being a lot more popular.
I do remember that the Garlic Jr DBZ movie was one of the very first anime DVDs I'd seen in stores, around 1998.

>> No.7115378

>>7112226
Piccolo is based, so you fucked up

>> No.7115432

>>7112283
Such an iconic moment

He dies believing that he'll never be able to be wished back, because the (earth) Dragon Balls die if he dies

>> No.7115549

>>7115378
He's a cuck, just like all namekucks.

>> No.7115597
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>>7115549
Namekians are the opposite of cucks. They're basically the universe's wizards. Fully invested in knowledge and magic to care about pussy, so much so that namek pussy doesn't even exist and they can auto-procreate.
The cucked one is Goku, his son is a disciple of his old rival. Not that Goku cares though.

>> No.7115691

>>7115235
> this early localization by Harmony Gold was also used for the very first attempt at localizing dragon ball in Mexico
So this is where it all began, huh

>> No.7115709

>>7112204
Radditz was cool though, so you’re still wrong.

>> No.7115716
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>>7115691
yeah, not sure if it had more than 1 revision before it finally got the dub we all know, but I do remember for sure watching the DB version where Goku was called Zero.

>> No.7115914

>>7115597
>has to raise a kid like a woman while the saiyans do the real fighting
Yeah, like he said, cucked.

>> No.7115940

>>7115914
>raise
lol what, he trained Gohan. I think the only help Gohan got from Piccolo during his training was giving him 1 (one) apple.

>> No.7116063

>>7115940
The relationship between them was significant enough that when the time came for his own uniform, he asked for Piccolo's instead of Goku's. Pretty fantastic. What a good kid. Piccolo is his first true master and when he needs to push himself he relies on Piccolo. Goku's Cell training was specifically for Super Saiyan.

>> No.7116891
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>>7116063
Yeah, and when they went to fight Cell, Gohan asked Piccolo for a new outfit instead of using the generic saiyan one or the kame gi.

>> No.7117081

>>7112713
But PSX emulates better and has more affordable eshop representation than N64 and Saturn. If you're playing these games now, the chances it's on real hardware are slim if you're a new player.

>> No.7117221

>>7117081
who cares about new players?

>> No.7117301

Nah. PS1 raped them both. Based Sony saving the industry.

>> No.7117308

>>7117301
Based 4theplayers black lives matter

>> No.7117339

>>7112216
i just started reading the dr slump manga for the first time (haven't seen the anime), it's pretty fun