Was this the last good Zelda game?

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Anonymous Mon Nov 23 23:04:13 2020 No.7110587 [Reply] [Original]

Was this the last good Zelda game?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 23 23:06:04 2020 No.7110594 File: 351 KB, 700x981, ZeldaIIboxart.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] no

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 23 23:10:23 2020 No.7110598 WW sucks, I can't believe that people find that acceptable let alone good

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 23 23:14:02 2020 No.7110610 >>7110594 Based, white, and redpilled. >>7110587 Wind Waker is another piss-poor rehash with nothing going for it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 23 23:20:13 2020 No.7110626 >>7110598 >>7110610 lol WW is literally the best Zelda game by FAR, and one of the best games of all time

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 23 23:27:53 2020 No.7110636 >>7110587 no, the Oracles were

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 23 23:29:04 2020 No.7110642 >>7110587 If being unfinished garbage is all it takes to be considered a good zelda games then I'd say the entire series is a 10/10

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 23 23:30:36 2020 No.7110646 >>7110626 Gamecube babies actually believe this.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 23 23:34:23 2020 No.7110647 >>7110587 i didnt like it

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 23 23:37:07 2020 No.7110650 >>7110587 Was the Zelda game that made me check out. It wasn't any fun, and when it was over I really felt that the franchise had gone down a path that wasn't Zelda anymore to me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 23 23:39:01 2020 No.7110652 >>7110650 I kind of like that about Wind Waker though. It's as soulful as the games before it, but it feels separate from them. You can play Wind Waker without having played a Zelda game before and it works as its own experience.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 23 23:45:03 2020 No.7110661 >>7110587 No. It was, however, the first really shitty one. Nah I’m just kidding OOT was the last good Zelda game.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 23 23:46:45 2020 No.7110663 >>7110652 'cept for all those parts where it won't stop riding OoT's dick and never gets its own identity.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 23 23:48:49 2020 No.7110667 >>7110663 It has its own identity. It's an ocean adventure with pirates and shit. That's a pretty far cry from the type of series Zelda usually is.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 23 23:55:50 2020 No.7110687 >>7110587 It's an aborted unpolished mess but yes it's the last good zelda game in the sense that at least it's actually entertaining to play. In contrast TP, SS, and BotW were exercises in pure boredom.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 23 23:57:34 2020 No.7110689 >>7110687 >it's the last good zelda game in the sense that at least it's actually entertaining to play Maybe like 40% is entertaining. Most of it is dull and brainless.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 00:03:46 2020 No.7110697 >>7110661 >reddit spacing >doesn't like MM Check out

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 00:36:21 2020 No.7110769 >>7110587 It's the last Zelda game that I've beaten twice. I'll go back and replay TP and SS one of these years.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 00:37:01 2020 No.7110773 >>7110769 Don't bother with SS. That game sucks shit out of Bob the Builder's hairy asshole.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 00:46:34 2020 No.7110805 >>7110667 Wind waker isn't the first game in the series with pirates

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 02:07:13 2020 No.7111004 >>7110587 no

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 02:12:58 2020 No.7111015 File: 136 KB, 600x853, external-content.duckduckgo-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7110587 NO

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 02:15:36 2020 No.7111020 >>7110587 zelda was never good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 02:17:49 2020 No.7111027 >>7110598 >>7110626 >>7110646 >>7110647 >>7110661 >>7110689 >>7111020 Any of you brainlets wanna elaborate on your worthless opinions, are has multiple choice quizes rotted your brains?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 02:23:36 2020 No.7111042 >>7110587 Yup

Anonymous Tue Nov 24 02:36:10 2020 No.7111064

>>7110587
No. Most Zelda games are good, even the new ones. The worst (TP, PH, SS) seem to be a brief period of rot that is being countered by the open world focus of the newer ALBW and BOTW. Hopefully whatever they come up with next has some stronger difficulty.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 02:38:43 2020 No.7111071 >>7111064 >The worst (TP, PH, SS) TP & PH are not bad

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 05:34:00 2020 No.7111340 >>7110587 it was the first bad one lol

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 05:37:20 2020 No.7111346 >>7111027 i just didnt like it

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 05:38:54 2020 No.7111348 File: 20 KB, 500x324, facepalm.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7110636 fucking zoomers

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 05:39:56 2020 No.7111349 >>7111064 >some stronger difficulty zeldas have been easy since zelda 3

Anonymous Tue Nov 24 06:11:55 2020 No.7111373

>>7110587
Twilight Princess's latter dungeons want a word with you. I think you have to take the good with the bad in every case with the Zelda series. Wind Waker is easy. Others have too much filler or slow pace. But there are always elements that really stick fondly with me, so for me it's about gearing up mentally for a playthrough and preparing to make the most of it. Patiently endure what is less than ideal. Enjoyment of things takes a bit of skill.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 06:55:09 2020 No.7111420 >>7110587 yes

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 07:37:04 2020 No.7111456 Not retro, but Spirit Tracks was the last good Zelda game.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 09:23:53 2020 No.7111575 >>7111071 TP is gargage

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 09:44:27 2020 No.7111613 >>7110587 no

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 09:45:59 2020 No.7111619 >>7110587 Not retro

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 10:36:46 2020 No.7111730 >>7111373 >Others have too much filler or slow pace. Wind waker's entire overworld was filler and slow paced

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 10:42:33 2020 No.7111746 File: 29 KB, 640x558, 1603580510666.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7111027 >gamecube era >leaps of 3d animation and nicer quality of video games graphics >hurr durr cel shaded wat >babby link on a boat fuck this shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 11:06:40 2020 No.7111786 >>7111575 WW is worse

Anonymous Tue Nov 24 11:38:43 2020 No.7111830
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>take a guy who can't beat octoroks in the first game and said he never wanted to make a game like Zelda
>put him in charge of the franchise
>series immediately torpedoes in quality

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 11:44:04 2020 No.7111843 >>7110587 Not retro

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 11:53:59 2020 No.7111861 >>7111619 >>7111843 Try reporting this thread then.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 11:55:14 2020 No.7111862 >>7111830 Majora's Mask was the first game Aonuma directed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 11:59:17 2020 No.7111879 >>7111862 That only proves the point.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 12:02:45 2020 No.7111883 >>7110594 this

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 12:29:57 2020 No.7111929 >>7111348 zoomers don't even know what the Oracle games are, their idea of Zelda begins and ends at the 3D titles

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 12:32:09 2020 No.7111934 File: 1.38 MB, 1102x988, 1596055941408.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7111929 False.

Anonymous Tue Nov 24 15:07:28 2020 No.7112362
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>>7111934
>>7111929
It's really gay how "REMEMBER THE '90S???" types of people were universally despised 10 years ago but the same thing hasn't happened yet for 2000s fetishists.

Probably because too many jews are still profiting off the nostalgia. What a worthless fucking decade. Shitty games, shitty music, shitty movies, shitty fashion, shitty culture. Bury it all. Fuck the PS2 and fuck the GameCube. N*gger.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 19:23:38 2020 No.7113148 >>7112362 >Probably because too many jews are still profiting off the nostalgia. >>>/pol/

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 19:27:14 2020 No.7113171 >>7112362 You are just mad that the PS2 made basically everything that came before it worthless to the point of cringe.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 22:10:25 2020 No.7113650 File: 55 KB, 358x500, 51I25VxTAfL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7110587 Close

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 22:43:24 2020 No.7113734 >linear as fuck >good zelda game You can’t have both. Zelda was the last good zelda game.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 22:53:16 2020 No.7113752 >>7110594 Wonder boy in monster land is a better execution of the ideas here

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 22:59:13 2020 No.7113767 >>7110594 That's not a Zelda game.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 23:29:43 2020 No.7113851 >>7110626 Not with that endgame

Anonymous Wed Nov 25 00:48:46 2020 No.7113989
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it was the first bad one actually

>dude what if we got rid of all the gritty elements that were essential to zelda's aesthetic
>dude what if we made the ocean huge and empty with the same repeating blue color throughout
>dude what if we got rid of all challenge from every aspect of the game
>dude what if we told you how to solve a puzzle in the final dungeon when the solution was a door over
>dude what if we got rid of a few dungeons and replaced them with stupid triforce hunt shit
>dude what if we tried to give ganon a sympathetic motive at the final battle, never expanded on it and killed him anyway
>dude what if we added a multi-weapon mechanic but made it useless since it drops after opening a door and are all shittier than the master sword anyway
>dude what if we made it so you constantly have to change the wind pattern to even navigate through the shit overworld
>dude what if we made it so that the biggest side quest in the game involves a camera with an extremely limited photo inventory
>dude what if we copy pasted shitty enemy gauntlets all over the world for padding
>dude what if we made the teleporting mechanic limited to a couple squares of the world
>dude what if we had the first major area in the game open up with a shitty stealth segment for no reason
>dude what if...hear me out...what if we made the players farm for butterfly charms to progress

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 01:01:43 2020 No.7114006 >>7113989 This has been debunked. Even you like Wind Waker since you keep posting Wind Waker reaction pics.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 01:02:29 2020 No.7114008 >>7114006 objective facts about the game are not debunkable

Anonymous Wed Nov 25 01:04:10 2020 No.7114012

>Advancing game gens was inevitable, anon!
>Don't listen to doomers, /vr/ won't change!
>There was shitposting before this!
The /v/ cancer has spread way faster than I thought it would after this change - so many fucking threads that just result in dumbshit arguments. Fuck whatever tranny mod decided this was a good decision.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 01:05:29 2020 No.7114016 >>7114008 https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/497254848/#497255549 Here you go.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 01:06:36 2020 No.7114018 File: 23 KB, 250x272, stopped[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7114016 >Wind Waker is one of Nintendo's grittiest games

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 01:07:37 2020 No.7114023 what dont you like about it

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 01:08:26 2020 No.7114028 >>7114016 >starts his "counterargument" by calling WW one of the grittiest nintendo games lmao you think I'm going to waste my time reading the rest of that shit?

Anonymous Wed Nov 25 01:09:52 2020 No.7114031

>>7114018
>>7114028
You have to remember Nintendo isn't a company known for gritty games. Nintendo's grittiest franchises are Zelda, Metroid, and possibly Mother.
Compared to most Nintendo games, Wind Waker is pretty gritty since it deals with the apocalypse, has a pretty dark villain, and has a pretty melancholy feeling to it overall. It's no Silent Hill obviously, but it's more mature than Nintendo's usual games (Mario, Kirby, Pikmin, Nintendogs, etc.)

Anonymous Wed Nov 25 01:15:58 2020 No.7114042

>>7114031
wrong, their grittiest series are xenoblade and FE. And zelda is gritty due to titles like OoT and MM, not fucking wind waker lol

>Wind Waker is pretty gritty since it deals with the apocalypse
no, it isn't. it's the most baby display of a post-apocalypse setting of nintendo. Everyone lives happily except for a few girls who temporarily get kidnapped. Contrast this with games like xenoblade x or metroid prime where the entire planet is annihilated or the sentient beings are all dead from radioactive poisoning.

>has a pretty dark villain
a complete pussy version of his OoT self, WW ganondorf doesn't even do a tenth of the shit OoT ganon does

>has a pretty melancholy feeling to it overall.
no it doesn't, not even close. MM would be melancholic, WW makes light of absolutely everything and tries to reconcile in the very end by killing off king hyrule for no reason. Even something as small as sages no longer being able to see link is stripped away with markar and medli being seen in the ending greeting link.

TL;DR, WW is baby mode

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 01:18:16 2020 No.7114046 >>7114031 >melancholic feel What in the actual fuck are you on about? You can't actually think this is true. >b-but here's my headcanon explaining why I'm right fuck off, I like the game but you are delusional.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 01:18:53 2020 No.7114047 >>7114046 this guy thinks WW is one of nintendo's gritty games, he's beyond help

Anonymous Wed Nov 25 01:19:40 2020 No.7114050

>>7114016
>Wind Waker is one of Nintendo's grittiest games.
It's not. It's post-apocalyptic, but not in a way that focuses on death. Ganondorf has depth, but not in a way that darkens the text.
>The ocean is beautiful.
The islands are beautiful. The ocean is average.
>Subjective.
The only challenge is the gauntlet. When your difficulty comes solely from attrition for one section, you're not THAT hard.
>Citation needed.
I assume they're talking about the torch puzzle where the whole thing is extremely telegraphed? If you love the game so much, why don't you remember it?
>I like the Triforce Hunt.
You're the only one posting subjective shit.
>Ganondorf isn't meant to be sympathetic, he's manipulating Link.
It's still not expanded on, and Ganondorf dies.
>Challenge, bitch.
How is a skippable mechanic challenging?
>Legitimate criticism.
As are most of the rest of these.
>I like the Nintendo Gallery sidequest.
Subjective!
>Wtf does that even mean?
There's a shit-ton of mini-dungeons that are repeated elsewhere in the Sea.
>Learn to sail.
No, the real rebuttal is that there shouldn't be 49 warp points in a game.
>There's a stealth segment at the beginning of OoT.
After an entire dungeon and a good deal of optional content.
>You pick up Joy Pendants naturally as the game goes on, no farming needed.
Yeah this is pretty much on point. If you're stopping to clear out the repetitive towers, you should get plenty of Pendants.

Anonymous Wed Nov 25 01:20:42 2020 No.7114054

>>7114042
I once read a YouTube comment that said Fire Emblem is for babies. How would you respond to that?

Anyway, I can't really argue with how you perceive the game. It's really a matter of how I remember it when I was a kid. I remember thinking WW had kind of a melancholy atmosphere with dungeons like the Forbidden Woods and the Earth Temple, which I still feel have an ethereal, otherworldly quality to them. Maybe it is just nostalgia, idk.
I will insist that WW's portrayal of Ganondorf is dark though, in the sense that he's made into more of an ambiguous villain than he was before. You can debate whether he's still pure evil or if he has a tragic past that explains his character. He also tries to kill children.

>>7114046
I explained the "melancholic feel" in this post.

Anonymous Wed Nov 25 01:21:34 2020 No.7114057

>>7114054
>I once read a YouTube comment that said Fire Emblem is for babies. How would you respond to that?
I wouldn't, I don't comment on youtube. I wouldn't argue against him thinking FE is for babies, but if FE is for babies, than wind waker is for zygotes.

Anonymous Wed Nov 25 01:24:15 2020 No.7114062

>>7114057
Honestly, my opinions have changed since I posted that stuff in that thread. I cringe reading it over.
I still think WW is a masterpiece, but I understand other people have issues with it. One of the things I love about it is the atmosphere, and I say that with the full knowledge that someone's gonna call me a söyboy. It's the last Zelda game that really made me feel like I was in another world. Again, I don't know if it's just nostalgia, but it's a beautiful game IMO.

Anonymous Wed Nov 25 01:24:28 2020 No.7114063

>>7114023
>easier than oot and mm. In regards to both combat and dungeon design. All wind waker dungeons lack large-scale or complex puzzles and will rarely have backtracking or maze-like elements.
>art style was arguably worse. The cartoon style really didn't add anything but allowing link to be more expressive. This ended up sacrificing a lot shit like interesting monster designs and interesting dungeon aesthetics (wind temple is particularly awful) none of the other NPCs benefited from the cartoony art style, either.
>failed to build on the gameplay systems of either Ocarina or Majoras Mask. Sailing aside, it was yet another rehash of Alttp's formula and sailing was just a means to travel the otherworld. It didn't lend itself to interesting gameplay whatsoever. I suppose you could make an argument for it leading to a number of gameplay aspects of BOTW, though (enemy weapons stealing, gliding)
>it's unfinished. Nintendo pushed this game out in two years? Which is astonishing because it came out not too long after "A delayed game is eventually good" Ocarina of Time.
>story was the first in a long line of zelda games failing to leave Ocarina's shadow, the game's story cam barely stand on its own.
>more than half the islands are copy pastes or minor edits. Seriously. Take out the reefs, the fairy islands, the triangle islands, the featureless archipelagos, and the like and how many islands with interesting features are you left with?

Anonymous Wed Nov 25 01:30:32 2020 No.7114078

>>7114062
wanna know something? I played WW as a kid and for years I considered it my favorite (between 2007-2012). Then I decided to replay it objectively with the thoughts of nostalgia put aside and my eyes were opened. WW has so many flaws, I couldn't bring myself to enjoy the game anymore. If the overworld wasn't so barren or the dungeons weren't so mediocre it would have been fine, but neither are good here

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 01:32:26 2020 No.7114084 Wind waker is the game Miyamoto is talking about when he says bad games are forever

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 01:35:28 2020 No.7114092 the best is Twilight Princess because it tried to be mature

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 08:46:32 2020 No.7114759 >>7114092 >wolf link >that shit final fight uh no

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 11:13:09 2020 No.7115035 >>7114759 i'd take wolf link anytime over that baby link shit in WW

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 11:50:03 2020 No.7115114 >>7110587 BOTW is great

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 12:15:22 2020 No.7115196 >>7110587 That's not majoras mask

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 13:46:28 2020 No.7115437 >>7110587 it was unironically the first bad zelda game if you don't include four swords

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 22:01:54 2020 No.7116643 >>7115437 >unironically

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 22:12:16 2020 No.7116665 >>7113650 awful game, how the hell could anyone enjoy the wolf mechanic or the boring dark world

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 22:29:38 2020 No.7116717 >>7115437 Didn't wind waker predate four swords?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 26 05:51:34 2020 No.7117612 >>7110587 Cadence of Hyrule is alright.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 26 13:59:29 2020 No.7118561 >>7110626 get lost tumblrbabby

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 26 14:00:30 2020 No.7118565 >>7111015 good job, you posted the WORSE 2D Zelda even.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 26 21:48:54 2020 No.7119736 bump

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 26 21:50:29 2020 No.7119738 >>7110587 BotW was top tier Zelda, the fuck out of here with WW

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 26 21:52:45 2020 No.7119750 File: 2.93 MB, 1920x1080, 1592351848117.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7119738 Breath of the Wild is Dora the Explorer.

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>>7110587
No TP is but it's reasonable to think WW is shit because it's got no content, it's short and the overworld is terrible.
The real retards are people who think Breath of Ubisoft was acceptable.
>>7114012
/vr/ was already repeat /v/tier threads about dumb fucking shit. Half the board was consolewars or 'DO PEOPLE ACTUALLY THINK OOT/SOTN IS GOOD?
Fuck off retard, you're probably sitting straining trying not to tell people just how old you are.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 26 22:27:17 2020 No.7119843 >>7119738 Botw is an ok game, but it is barely a zelda game.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 26 22:32:58 2020 No.7119858 File: 102 KB, 1280x720, 0C1CF416-6684-492E-9A81-1987FBB6ADE7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7119843 def. has the hottest version of link

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 26 23:35:47 2020 No.7120049 >>7119750 That's Wind Waker. >>7119843 BotW is more of a Zelda game than anything else with Aonuma's name on it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 26 23:39:19 2020 No.7120067 >>7120049 BOTW has more in common with Grand Theft Auto than anything else with the Zelda name on it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 26 23:45:50 2020 No.7120086 >>7120049 What do you mean "that's Wind Waker"?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 26 23:51:02 2020 No.7120102 Threads about the Zelda franchise in general belong in /v/ since it covers a lot of games that are not retro.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 26 23:54:37 2020 No.7120110 >>7110687 >>7110769 >>7110773 >>7111064 >>7111071 >>7111456 >>7114063 >>7115114 >>7119738 >>7119750 >>7119843 >>7119858 >>7120049 >>7120067 Reported and banned for not retro

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 27 00:44:38 2020 No.7120264 >>7110587 Yes, but also no, you just grew up. But yeah, it's also probably secretly the best.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 27 09:00:00 2020 No.7121052 >>7120102 Cool story, bro.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 27 17:48:13 2020 No.7122363 >>7120264 The best Zelda with boring ass sailing?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 27 17:53:53 2020 No.7122380 >>7114759 >Literally the best set of final bosses in the franchise Difficulty isn’t everything, especially when it comes to Zelda.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 27 21:19:17 2020 No.7122834 >>7111934 >Zoomer >Half of that shit came out when zoomers weren't even born or were 2 at most >>7112362 90s kids were never despised. People just found them annoying in the same way people find weebs annoying.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 27 21:21:24 2020 No.7122842 >>7122834 >90s kids were never despised. People just found them annoying in the same way people find weebs annoying. Oh cool thanks for clarifying! Really made all the difference in the world

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 28 07:41:15 2020 No.7123941 >>7119858 >Not trap Link

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 28 07:42:14 2020 No.7123943 I don't get this fixation with Zelda, is it nostalgia? Never got into any of the games except the GBC ones.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 28 09:54:48 2020 No.7124159 >>7120067 ?

Anonymous Sat Nov 28 10:04:27 2020 No.7124180

>>7110642
Don't know if I'm responding to bait, but I'm curious as to what makes WW "unfinished"? I didn't hate the game as much as I thought I would, but I don't put it on any pedestals, either. I haven't completed it since the time it came out so I definitely have forgotten some stuff.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 28 19:05:18 2020 No.7125298 >>7123943 What makes the Oracle games better than Link's Awakening?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 28 19:22:43 2020 No.7125347 >>7110587 Twilight Princess was good. Not as good as WW but still pretty fun.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 28 19:29:48 2020 No.7125363 >>7110587 No. Twilight Princess and ALBW deserve to be called at least good, let alone BoTW. Inb4 "not retro," fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 28 19:30:48 2020 No.7125364 >>7125298 Nothing because ain't

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 28 19:37:34 2020 No.7125383 >>7125347 >>7125363 TP is all right. You have a point there.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 28 19:49:55 2020 No.7125419 I love threads about the Zelda series as a whole They're the only place on 4channel where i can discuss breath of the wild, my favourite retro game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 28 19:51:36 2020 No.7125423 >>7125419 BotW isn't retro.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 28 20:09:07 2020 No.7125463 >>7125423 Then why are so many people talking about it in here?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 28 20:12:32 2020 No.7125474 >>7125463 >>7125423 >>7125419 When you make a thread like OP clearly talking about future games in a series people are obviously going to talk about non-retro stuff. No need to play retarded or get overly butthurt.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 28 20:13:29 2020 No.7125481 >>7125474 I made the thread to discuss Wind Waker, a retro game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 28 20:14:20 2020 No.7125484 >>7125481 Then you're retarded and should have actually said >hey I like wind waker Instead of doing what you did.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 28 20:15:05 2020 No.7125487 >>7125484 >hey I like Wind Waker Sounds like a very interesting thread. I'll be sure to make it and see how many replies it gets.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 28 20:17:06 2020 No.7125493 >>7125487 Not my fault you can't think of a good OP that doesn't invite non-retro talk. Might have helped if you actually brought up anything about Wind Waker to talk instead of just pointlessly inviting what amounts to gen wars

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 28 20:31:36 2020 No.7125540 >>7110587 The game turns into complete trash after the forest dungeon.

Zelda CDI games remastered Sat Nov 28 21:12:40 2020 No.7125661

>>7110587
I'm not a fan of wind waker to be honest. Never was. It's not a bad game, by all means, but I wouldn't really consider it a Zelda game. The artstyle never really fit with the franchise, and it still doesn't to this day. Most of the game is rather boring considering that most of the overworld is just a massive ocean with barely anything interesting going on, (even more boring than twilight princess's overworld). The dungeons are alright but the way they brought in new races such as Korok's and the Rito tribe being evolved versions of the Kokiri and Zora species was fucking dumb (which I'm extremely glad that this stupid explanation was retconned in BotW.) This game should have been its own standalone game instead of being a zelda game. We should have gotten something that expanded on the ocarina of time formula or at least something similar to the tech demo that was showed off that one e3. before anyone asks, No, I'm not a Twilight Princess shill. That game has its own problems but we're not discussing them in this thread now are we?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 28 21:13:44 2020 No.7125662 >>7125661 fuck I forgot to delete the name. oh well lesson learned

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 28 21:15:06 2020 No.7125663 >>7125661 That's one of the things I really like about WW though. You can play it as its own game without having played any Zelda games before and it works just as well.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 28 21:16:59 2020 No.7125669 >>7125663 That is true. Like I said, it works as a standalone game. It's not a bad game and I've played it several times already and I've never had a bad experience with it. It's just not what I'd call a good zelda game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 28 21:22:57 2020 No.7125683 >>7125661 Why the fuck am I reading this in AVGN's voice?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 28 22:46:58 2020 No.7125870 >>7122834 >Responding to the wojak autist Dude literally posts that picture every chance he can get in zelda threads.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 28 22:48:12 2020 No.7125874 >>7125870 >in Zelda threads

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 28 23:16:52 2020 No.7125921 >>7110587 The only good Zelda games are the first two on the NES, and BotW. ALttP started a terrible linear plot-focused tangent with lots of bad “puzzles”. Their only redeeming quality was the atmosphere, which isn’t dependent on their poor mechanics.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 29 03:19:43 2020 No.7126413 >>7125474 This is a board for retro games. Games that will be retro in the future are not eligible.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 29 04:44:48 2020 No.7126563 >>7125921 Pretty much this.

Anonymous Sun Nov 29 05:08:30 2020 No.7126587

>>7125661
>It's not a bad game
A lot of the game is trash. But OoT itself was full of trash in the first place, the reason its 3D sequels kept getting worse with each new installement until BotW tried to make things right is because they were building upon everything that was wrong with OoT.

Anonymous Sun Nov 29 07:04:51 2020 No.7126724
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>>7125683
OK, Wind Waker. I get a lot of requests for this one. Back when it was revealed, if you can believe this, everyone hated the graphics. The graphics are actually pretty cool, it's like you're playing a cartoon. But GODDAMN, if it's a cartoon it's like one played in slow motion! Link moves so SLOW on those stubby little legs of his... like a doped up snail covered in molasses. Getting in your boat is no better. If you're not going in the direction of the wind, you aren't going anywhere. So what do you do? Well first you open the menu... equip the rod... then you gotta hold the direction of the wind song, not time it like you'd THINK you have to do, then the game plays the exact same song you just played. THEN you can change direction, and watch Link confused at the sky every time. FUCK. Is all the song and dance really necessary?! It's an actual song and dance! And don't think you can avoid this, you'll need it to find the triforce pieces which are scattered all over the world... though good luck finding them, since it's all the same MS paint blue!

And even if you KNOW where they are, guess what? You can't see them unless you pay this fat little dwarf guy 400 bucks to tell you where they are. 400 bucks! And there's 8 pieces! This is worse than that guy who sold me those old Atari games! Now there's nothing wrong with triforce pieces, in the Legend of Zelda you had to find 8 of them too. But they were in dungeons, full of monsters and dead ends and this weird grumble grumble guy. Not a little kid's scavenger hunt! What were they THINKING!?

Wind Waker? More like SHIT TAKER! The wind isn't the only thing that blows! I'd rather get buried under Dodongo dung! I'd rather get manhandled by Manhandla! I'd rather dig my own grave with Digdogger!

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 29 07:11:27 2020 No.7126735 >>7110697 #triigeredyetimbers>>7111027 >>brainlets >> “are has”

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 29 11:50:19 2020 No.7127209 >>7126735 >triigered

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 29 14:35:05 2020 No.7127619 >>7110587 Seems that way.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 29 14:42:11 2020 No.7127643 https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/495591203/#495620210 This is your mindset on nostalgia

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 29 14:48:34 2020 No.7127658 >>7126724 All genuine points and are exactly the reasons Wind Waker just isn't a good game, impressive for a faggot shitposter, keep it up

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 29 16:17:36 2020 No.7127932 Imagine being such a contrarian you think BOTW isn't the best zelda game.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 29 21:44:20 2020 No.7128915 >>7127932 >Not Link's Awakening

Anonymous Sun Nov 29 22:27:42 2020 No.7129058
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>>7112362
>It's really gay how "REMEMBER THE '90S???" types of people were universally despised 10 years ago but the same thing hasn't happened yet for 2000s fetishists.
because 2000s kids weren't obnoxious about most of their shit like 90s kids were.

the worst you got was overlap with weebs but that's basically it.

>Probably because too many jews are still profiting off the nostalgia.
on what fucking planet or parallel earth are people profiting off of 2000s nostalgia? most of the major nostalgia callbacks have been things from the 80s or 90s.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 29 22:30:13 2020 No.7129064 >>7110594 this

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 29 22:32:39 2020 No.7129071 >>7113767 If u say so, shit taste

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 29 22:34:01 2020 No.7129076 >>7127932 it’s literally >>7110594 this thread was over after the 2nd post

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 30 01:45:54 2020 No.7129686 >>7126724 damn actually captured his voice pretty well. made me lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 30 10:46:40 2020 No.7130670 >>7110773 >That game sucks shit out of Bob the Builder's hairy asshole. That is awfully specific.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 30 10:57:35 2020 No.7130687 Come on guys Breath of the Wild is by far the best retro Zelda game.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 30 14:05:23 2020 No.7131178 The links awakening remake was good.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 30 21:00:26 2020 No.7132297 >>7126724 based >>7126587 don't act like BotW doesn't have its own issues that people are too willing to sweep under the rug

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 30 21:22:14 2020 No.7132359 >>7111015 I unironically enjoy this game

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 1 09:39:12 2020 No.7133704 >>7132359 >unironically

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 1 10:14:00 2020 No.7133759 >>7113989 It's been a long time since I played it, but il give you changing direction and the camera quest, camera quest especially was fucked.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 1 16:09:28 2020 No.7134662 >>7133759 >but il give you What did he mean by this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 1 18:06:31 2020 No.7134952 >zelda >good Choose one, friend. You can't have both

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 2 08:18:19 2020 No.7136616 >>7134952 What Zelda clones do you like instead?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 2 15:56:59 2020 No.7137630 >>7110587 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 2 20:23:27 2020 No.7138248 >>7110805 Which had them first?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 3 02:41:10 2020 No.7138952 File: 90 KB, 217x310, Cap'n_and_Piratians.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7138248 not them but Majora's Mask had the Gerudo Pirates and the Oracle games had undead pirates

Anonymous Thu Dec 3 05:32:57 2020 No.7139183

>>7110587
Its the beginning of the end taking zelda a white cultural supremacist game that is every white mans most deepest most desired fantasy with his gods and his religion and his history is represented and present and he can feel like an aryan hero.... Is all substituted for silly kyoto cartoon slapshit. eheheheehehehhe tinkle is so wacky!!! Ha ha look at beetle.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 3 08:51:28 2020 No.7139427 Okay bros but what about Breath of the Wild, the greatest Zelda game and dare I say it, the greatest retro game.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 3 16:41:25 2020 No.7140309 >>7110587 Yes

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 3 17:40:33 2020 No.7140446 >>7139427 >the greatest retro game. >March 3, 2017

Anonymous Thu Dec 3 21:01:49 2020 No.7140941
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twilight princess of a new life in your own mind and an anime thing that was just like a bad idea of it and i dont have to do with the fact its vidya is something you can get away from here too and you have a good time and i don't know how much i just want you dont have a good idea to rush though and oml it is not that hard for you and you have a good idea to ask about the game is just not the best thing about linux and it's still pretty good at the end game is just not a big problem for me to do with it and it is not the same thing but it was just the first one so he was just trying too much time to make a good idea to rush though its probably not a big problem

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 3 21:10:51 2020 No.7140961 >>7140941 u wot m8

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 4 02:13:21 2020 No.7141547 >>7110626 This is actually true. Stinky tastelets seething.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 4 12:26:19 2020 No.7142474 >>7141547 >tastelets

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 4 20:23:28 2020 No.7143636 >>7111042 What makes you say that?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 4 20:32:35 2020 No.7143652 >>7110587 Twilight princess is COMPLETE shit, but the series recovered afterward

Anonymous Fri Dec 4 20:44:01 2020 No.7143680

Everybody rags on Twilight Princess starting slow even though Wind Waker is literally worse. TP has the advantage of fast text speed and skippable cutscenes for one. The tutorials are extremely brief in TP as well. WW makes you do a significantly longer sword tutorial just so you could fight two enemies and then get cucked out of combat for the next half an hour so you can do the second shittiest stealth section in Zelda history.

That is what riles me up the most about WW's opening. It sets you up with the classic tunic, the sword and the shield before setting you off on a perilous journey to rescue your sister, only for the game to slug you with a gay ass rope jumping tutorial and then the Forsaken Fortress which immediately denies you any chance of having excitement and fun by disarming you. Then afterwards you will undoubtedly get side tracked with Windfall Island's eleven trillion sidequests before slowly dragging yourself to and through Dragon Roost Island before you finally step foot inside of a fucking dungeon two hours later. It's complete dogshit! Sure, herding goats and collecting bugs sucks in TP but they both still go significantly faster than this shit in WW.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 00:34:57 2020 No.7144151 >>7143680 Except almost nobody outside of few WW nostalgiafags is calling the game good. Trying to use such a thoroughly flawed game to prove that this other game isn't bad isn't doing that other game any favors.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 02:15:01 2020 No.7144346 >>7110587 No, after it came Twilight Princess for the Wii, and that was the last good Zelda game. Also the adventure of link is a piece of shit. I don't see why people like that stupid cunt of game so much. Even Zelda 1 is way better.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 02:17:02 2020 No.7144347 Don't care what anyone says, Skyward Sword was good. Top 5 Zelda game. BOTW was the shitty one. Didn't even feel like a Zelda game. WW and TP are meh.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 02:20:30 2020 No.7144351 No. Majora's Mask was. But what's even worse is when hot take faggots put Majora's Mask above Ocarina of Time. Every time you play OOT, it feels like the first time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 02:21:22 2020 No.7144352 >>7143680 Well, it's a game about exploring and having an adventure, not about beating it in 10 seconds.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 02:29:56 2020 No.7144369 >>7144352 >exploring and having an adventure When does that happen in wind waker?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 02:32:34 2020 No.7144373 File: 239 KB, 800x748, Zelda II - New Adventure of Link0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7110587 No, that would be Zelda 2.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 02:35:53 2020 No.7144380 >>7144373 Link the pedophile

Anonymous Sat Dec 5 02:52:10 2020 No.7144397

>>7144369
about 3 hours in after you slog through the tutorial, FF, and 3 dungeons(since the KoRL wont let you travel anywhere that isnt a dungeon or windfall). But see, youre not supposed to go on an adventure yet, because youre supposed to save all youre exploring until the trifocre hunt so it feels fresh and exciting and not like an overtly long, drawn out fetch quest

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 02:57:29 2020 No.7144405 >>7144397 What's your favorite Zelda then? They all have restrictions like those you are mentioning.

Anonymous Sat Dec 5 02:59:51 2020 No.7144410

>>7144405
no, they dont. no other zelda game forces you into a lengthy stealth segment, taking away your main method for defending yourself, and then restricts all movement to and from towns/hubs until you finish 3 specific dungeons, and leaves all the fun content """available""" (except you dont have the megaton hammer yet, lol :^)) for you but actually intending it to be done at the end of the game, because you have to pay an NPC to literally CONTINUE THE GAME

Anonymous Sat Dec 5 03:16:48 2020 No.7144435

>>7144410
Okay, I won't deny the part of lengthy stealth segment. But what about it? It was fun. Majoras Mask keeps you as a Deku for 3 days mandatory without being able to leave Clocktown.

Every Zelda restricts your movement until you get the item needed. And if I remember correctly, after you beat Dragon Roost Dungeon you can go anywhere, the problem is you don't have shit like the tornados for warping or items to enter some of the islands. But that's like saying you don't have the 3 stones from OoT to continue the story and warp in time.

The only thing I agree with you is that the beginning is awfully long, but Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword are worse in that aspect.

Anonymous Sat Dec 5 03:21:13 2020 No.7144441

>>7144435
>And if I remember correctly, after you beat Dragon Roost Dungeon you can go anywhere
no, you literally cant,. You get in the KorL, point anywhere but...forest temple(?), and set the sail and the KorL stops you to say you have more important things to do. You literally cannot explore anywhere until you do a sequence of dungeons

>but Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword are worse in that aspect
its not. You cna skip cutscenes and speed through dialouge, and the training dummy with the kids is a HELL of a lot shorter than orca's stupid fucking sword swinging lesson

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 03:22:27 2020 No.7144442 https://youtu.be/Ke8TZj63F0Q

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 03:23:36 2020 No.7144443 >>7144441 Well fuck it, you win anon

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 03:31:49 2020 No.7144453 >>7110587 >>insultingly easy, boring, and tedious game At least Twilight Princess manages to get better after its tutorial

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 03:33:38 2020 No.7144456 >>7144441 i still think it's fun :0)

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 13:45:57 2020 No.7145537 >>7144456 Why?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 17:10:29 2020 No.7146060 >>7110587 I could never get into Windwankers art style

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 17:15:06 2020 No.7146074 >>7120067 Open world. Yes? Well the first Zelda was too. So if anything gta mimics a game from 1985 according to your logic

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 23:45:37 2020 No.7147121 bump

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 23:48:20 2020 No.7147130 TP isn't bad but it's so uneventfully flat for most of the game. It's by far the safest game in the series. I didn't not enjoy the game but at the same time it's hard to get over how rigidly it sticks to the mold.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 23:49:24 2020 No.7147135 >>7110587 It was the last good 3d Zelda game. 2d zelda is better than 3d though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 23:57:07 2020 No.7147148 >>7147130 >safest >dumbass gimmicky wolf segments for an hour at a time Haha no TP was ass

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 00:00:47 2020 No.7147164 >>7147148 I like Skyward Sword so I disagree with the OP for reasons beyond just looking towards TP.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 00:15:13 2020 No.7147192 >>7147135 >2 good 3d zelda games >4 good 2d zelda games, 6 if you're generous I loved zelda as a kid, but I can barely stomach it now.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 00:19:15 2020 No.7147197 >>7147192 I hope you're talking about MM and not OoT...

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 08:36:48 2020 No.7147978 We still going?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 08:42:12 2020 No.7147986 >>7145537 i just enjoy Zelda games. i like the music, the art direction, the dungeons, the swordplay. i like the experience as a whole.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 10:21:18 2020 No.7148148 >>7147197 Kind of. Oot and mm are the '2 good 3d zeldas'

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 11:06:09 2020 No.7148236 >>7110587 sadly yes but that doesn't mean the N64 and CD-i ones were good

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 12:20:43 2020 No.7148406

>>7143680
tbf it isn't just TP that got off to a slow start but it's a disturbing trend in all modern games. In the first Zelda you could get the sword on the first screen. In LttP a casual player would get the sword in 5 - 10 minutes. In TP it took me 3 hours and I only had about an hour a day to play bc of work.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 18:01:57 2020 No.7149568 >>7148406 Imagine being so lazy that you don't spell out "because" in a long ass reply.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 19:01:59 2020 No.7149793 >>7119797 found the /v/tard >>7125921 what do you think of Link's Awakening?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 23:06:46 2020 No.7150375 File: 53 KB, 679x516, 1600122425040.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7149793 >found the /v/tard Ironic. Stop shitposting or go back to your fast board containment.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 23:26:16 2020 No.7150427 File: 82 KB, 719x879, chadhominem.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7150375 lol, retard

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 23:29:07 2020 No.7150439 >>7150427 found the /v/tard

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 23:31:50 2020 No.7150445 Where's the candle puzzle webm bros?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 7 00:55:51 2020 No.7150652 >>7111746 your criteria for good gamin is weak

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 7 03:43:13 2020 No.7150976 >>7111862 he had Koizumi to balance him out WW was his main project and the decline is noticeable

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 7 11:23:08 2020 No.7151792 >>7113767 Its literally called Zelda 2.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 7 11:24:25 2020 No.7151795 >>7111015 Wait people DON'T like this game?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 7 11:25:33 2020 No.7151797 >>7111064 >>7111071 >>7111575 >>7111786 The DS games are fine but Twilight Princess is absolutely the worst game in the series.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 7 11:41:22 2020 No.7151832 >>7127643 >not enjoying that part of the game Retard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 7 11:48:01 2020 No.7151842 >>7147164 Skyward Sword needs a non-motion controlled remake. Its a good game with god awful controls.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 7 14:11:19 2020 No.7152143 >>7110587 not that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 7 23:51:22 2020 No.7153693 >>7152143 Yes it is.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 7 23:52:28 2020 No.7153696 >>7151797 I wouldn't go that far.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 7 23:53:30 2020 No.7153701 >>7153696 Yeah, Twilight Princess wasn't terrible.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 8 00:18:42 2020 No.7153759 File: 138 KB, 683x817, 9cc.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7113989 >dude what if we made the ocean huge and empty with the same repeating blue color throughout you mean like the ocean?

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