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[Anonymous No.7103891]

Friendly reminder that the skies in Super Mario Bros. are objectively supposed to be purplish.

[Anonymous No.7103893]

>>7103891
They are whatever color my calibrated display shows.

[Anonymous No.7103902]

>>7103893
So, purplish. Great!

[Anonymous No.7103904]

actually they are violet and violets are blue

[Anonymous No.7103905]

>>7103891
it kinda does look bad in the new ones
diarrhea vibe

[Anonymous No.7103912]

Cool

[Anonymous No.7103921]

Why do you guys even care what some Jap thinks? They didn't even have a different word for blue and green like 100 years ago.

[Anonymous No.7103923]

Muh miyamotos intentions

[Anonymous No.7103931]

>>7103891
Looks like a C64 game.

[Anonymous No.7103935]

>>7103891
I don't mind. This is one of the important facets of learning another language, as Miyamoto did with English: learning new ways to express yourself.

[Anonymous No.7103938]

>>7103891
Why does this matter when the more saturated color scheme, the one with the blue sky, is clearly more appealing? There's a reason it's used in Mario Maker.

[Anonymous No.7103941]

>>7103938
You can use it, sure. But it’s objectively wrong.

[Anonymous No.7103949]

Obviously that shade of purple was chosen due to a the limitations of the NES colour palette. If you look at images of a Playchoice 10, the sky if blue. Stop being autists about this, you have the option of changing colour palettes in modern NES RGB mods today anyway.

[Anonymous No.7103952]

>>7103949
When CRT’s are photographed, that shade of purple appears more blue than it really is. Hence the blue appearance of the box screenshots, which were shot off screen. This is what the PlayChoice-10 looks like emulated.

[Anonymous No.7103981]

Well the sky blue, not purple, so we're just fixing his mistake.

[Anonymous No.7104007]

>>7103981
You can make it blue, but it’s objectively wrong.

[Anonymous No.7104137]

>>7103891
> objectively supposed to be purplish.
it's objectively supposed to be at the mercy of whatever 80s CRT interpreted as the NES' malformed NTSC colorburst.

[Anonymous No.7105438]

>>7104137
If you calibrated your set correctly, it’s purplish.

[Anonymous No.7105476]

>>7105438
>Brightness: max
>Color: max
>Sharpness: max
This is how every autist played games as a child, prove me wrong

[Anonymous No.7105543]

>>7103921
They did have when these games were made though.

[Anonymous No.7105548]

>>7104007
>>7103981
>>7103891
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHixChYgGRI

[Anonymous No.7105552]

>>7103891
literally every sky shown here is purple-ish. muh switch online version with the poop brown bricks looks like garbage anyway lol

[Anonymous No.7105623]

>>7105476
as a kid my mom told me that tvs were supposed to be adjusted so that skin tones looked natural, so that's what I always did
my sony shows it as much more purple than my philips, which looks like a luminescent blue with a bit of purple

[Anonymous No.7105808]

add Super Mario Bros. 35 in the right section

[Anonymous No.7105970]

>>7103893
based.
OP is cringe

[Anonymous No.7106000]

>>7105970
Based retard. OP is advocating for properly calibrated displays, because when tuned correctly it shows as purplish.

[Anonymous No.7107602]

>>7103891

[Anonymous No.7107607]

[Anonymous No.7107618]

>>7103891

[Anonymous No.7107623]

>>7105808
>>7107607
>>7103891
>>7103952

[Anonymous No.7107627]

I think 4 is the best choice

[Anonymous No.7107631]

>>7107627
FCEUX is perfect, and the others are wrong.

[Anonymous No.7107641]

>>7103904
Good post, have a (You)

[Anonymous No.7107642]

>>7103891
He literally says blue sky, it's just a purplish blue. Super Mario Maker is probably the closest.

[Anonymous No.7107746]

>>7103891
Friendly reminder that the skies in Super Mario Bros. are objectively supposed to be blue.

[Anonymous No.7107752]

>>7107631
nah the Sony CX one is perfect, FCEUX has way overblown reds and you can't differentiate the browns

[Anonymous No.7107776]

>>7103891
And what about the reds and greens ?? Even bigger difference there.

[Anonymous No.7107895]

>>7107752
>FCEUX has way overblown reds
I like that.

[Anonymous No.7107918]

[Anonymous No.7107921]

>>7107918
You're a bad person.

[Anonymous No.7107923]

>>7107918
that's clearly a master system, look at the pattern

[Anonymous No.7108201]

>>7105438
Right, and Mario isn't red, he's shit-yellow and brown. Dilate.

[Anonymous No.7108418]

>>7103891
The NES Classic, Nintendo Switch Online, and Mario 35 palette is the canon one. Bluecucks need to do some soul-searching and admit they were wrong.

[Anonymous No.7109451]

>>7107746
They were supposed to be blue originally, but Miyamoto ultimately settled on a purplish sky. Any displays that show a blue sky are not accurate. He already admitted this, there's no debate left. The NES palette has been consistent as of late in Nintendo releases ever since the NES Classic, that's the one to use.

[Anonymous No.7109465]

>>7109451
Purple is wrong and you cannot make me make it purple. Also when Super Mario Bros. (pronounced "brothers", zoomies) is set to purple sky it just so happens to make all the other games' palettes wrong. Get a clue.
The old Japanese man is obviously going senile.

[Anonymous No.7109473]

>>7109465
It doesn't make other palettes wrong at all. Your entire perspective on how NES games should look is skewed, bro. If you want to see NES games as intended, play them on an NES Classic or Nintendo Switch Online or otherwise just use an emulator with that palette. That's how they're meant to be.

[Anonymous No.7109498]

>>7109473
>It doesn't make other palettes wrong at all. Your entire perspective on how NES games should look is skewed, bro. If you want to see NES games as intended, play them on an NES Classic or Nintendo Switch Online

No.

[Anonymous No.7109630]

>>7105548
Based. If you haven't already, listen to the full interview. It's great. Top 5 song for me my nigga.

[Anonymous No.7109643]

>>7109465
>zoomies
take your meds schizo

[Anonymous No.7109652]

>>7109643
>t. has never accessed Super Player Mode because I play more with image controls than the actual controls

[Anonymous No.7109671]

>>7109498
Then play with the non-canon colours and deal with it

[Anonymous No.7109697]

>>7109671
Blue is canon.>>7107618
>>7107623
>>7107602

[Anonymous No.7109760]

>>7109697
Yet they deliberately went out of their way to make the NES Classic, NS Online and Mario 35 palettes feature purplish skies like Miyamoto described. Cope, bluecuck.

[Anonymous No.7110006]

>>7109760
The sky is blue on the NES classic, anon, at least the Famicom version that I got.

[Anonymous No.7110007]

>>7109652
English please.

[Anonymous No.7110018]

>>7110007
Kein danke.

[Anonymous No.7110212]

>>7110006
https://youtu.be/krB0nK97Zg0?t=785
Liar. Your Famicom mini is either fake and/or modded and running an emulator by default with the wrong palette enabled.

[Anonymous No.7110257]

>>7103904
>>7107641
>sugar is sweet but it's not as sweet as (You)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w3e8F9o8z4

[Anonymous No.7110287]

Kek do none of you zoomers have a nes and copy of this game?

[Anonymous No.7110335]

>>7110212
>*shows almost blue screen*
>HA ITS CLEARLY PURPLE!
Seek help. Also their setting are wrong. :)

[Anonymous No.7110346]

>>7110335
Never said it was purple, it's "purplish" just as Miyamoto said. And there are no settings to change, that's how it looks.

[Anonymous No.7110493]

>>7110346
Just so long as we're clear that "purplish" means "blue."

[Anonymous No.7110501]

>>7110493
If we can agree that the colour in the video is indeed the intended colour since this is the palette Nintendo has deemed official, then sure.

[Anonymous No.7110506]

>>7110501
Never. Really, it's like this, this: >>7107618
is admittedly too blue, but: >>7107627
FCEUX is perfect.

[Anonymous No.7110519]

>>7110506
Nope. None of those are purplish like Miyamoto describes and they're too far off from the official palette Nintendo uses for NES titles.

[Anonymous No.7110530]

>>7110519
And yet they set all advertisemenst of the NES version to be blue. And the arcade version, which came out in 1985 as well, but had a 1986 copyright (had to be there for that one, anon, and little evidence of that remains) was also set for a blue sky. Funny that.

[Anonymous No.7110556]

>>7110530
>>7110530
They didn't set the advertisements to be blue, it just ended up that way at times because of the way NTSC signals worked, it would always vary. There were advertisements that showed a more correct purplish sky much more in line with the palette Nintendo has settled on as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FynvXHZ3DZE

[Anonymous No.7110562]

>>7110556
>the blue is purple!
THERE ARE FoUR LiGhTS!1

[Anonymous No.7110563]

http://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/#/wii/mario25th/4/0

Like many games created in Japan at the time, Nintendo developed Super Mario Bros. with the NTSC-J standard, which uses a color temperature of 9300K. Also,so Sony Trinitrons that Nintendo developed and tested their games on showed blue skies.

[Anonymous No.7110573]

http://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/#/wii/mario25th/4/0
http://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/#/wii/nsmb/0/3

Nintendo developed Super Mario Bros. with the NTSC-J standard, which uses 9300K. Also, the Sony Trinitrons that Nintendo developed and tested on showed purple skies.

[Anonymous No.7110602]

>>7110562
Okay, you can say that sky is just plain blue if you like, but the fact remains that this palette is the correct one. https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/super-mario-bros-35-switch/

[Anonymous No.7110612]

>>7110602
Good, God that looks like shit, but enjoy if you like.

[Anonymous No.7110619]

>>7110562
XD

[Anonymous No.7110693]

I SEE SKIES OF BLUE, CLOUDS OF WHITE

https://youtu.be/vLrfjqgLbNU

[Anonymous No.7110746]

>>7110693
I love you, anon.

[Anonymous No.7110781]

>>7110563
>le trinitron meme
Retarded faggot. Doesn’t matter what set you use, NTSC will display colors the same way on any set if calibrated properly. You don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.

[Anonymous No.7110801]

>>7103891

None of the colors in that image are anything close to purple. OP is color blind as fuck.

[Anonymous No.7110868]

>>7110781
No, YOU don't know what the fuck you're talking about. If you calibrate a display to the NTSC-J standard of 9300 Kelvin that Nintendo used when developing Super Mario Bros. among countless other games back in the day, you will find that the skies will in fact appear blue. Kill yourself retarded faggot.

[Anonymous No.7110881]

>>7110602
lmao literally all colors there are wrong

[Anonymous No.7110919]

>>7110881
Your palette is wrong, Nintendo's official palette is correct. Deal with it nigger.

[Anonymous No.7111009]

>>7103891
>retard kids arguing about what crayon color tastes better

[Anonymous No.7111032]

>>7103952
Nah that reasoning is wrong. The sky is purplish but varying CRT brands all came out of the box with differing color calibration. Trinitron for example seem to default toward pinker reds and for Super Mario Bros in particular most Trinitrons will display a notably blue sky with default color settings.

[Anonymous No.7111046]

Was miyamtoto toking that "purple haze" if you know what I mean hehehehe

[Anonymous No.7111051]

>>7111046
Explain.

[Anonymous No.7111053]

>>7111051
Drugs anon

[Anonymous No.7111058]

>>7111053
Miyamoto-san would never take drugs

[Anonymous No.7111097]

>>7107746
Milla Jojovich?

[Anonymous No.7111104]

>>7111097
>Milla Jojovich?
Youa know it, bitch.

[Anonymous No.7111120]

>>7103891
>"The theme of 'Super Mario Bros.' was the 'blue sky.'"
>At that time, you could only have about 3 colors for the blue sky

Miyamoto specifies that the game's entire theme is "blue sky," and explains his choice as being forced by a limited palette. He didn't "envision" a purplish blue sky, he settled on it. It's right there in your own quotation.

Later games don't have such limitations, so he opted for a truer blue because (a) he could, and (b) he wanted to. If "purplish blue" was so important to him, he doesn't strike me as the kind of guy that would let that slide. The notion that because a purplish blue was initially settled on, that makes it "official" and no other color in the future is valid, is just absurd in and of itself. Even if we were to entertain its validity, the fact that Mario's color scheme--both in game sprite form and in official artwork--has changed with time would invalidate it.

Of course, I understand that you're shitposting, and if you're having fun with that, bless your heart.

[Anonymous No.7111125]

>>7111104
*golf clap*

[Anonymous No.7111671]

>>7111032
Ok, you’re clearly a zoomer and don’t know anything about technology used before you were born.

[Anonymous No.7111789]

>>7110781
>>7110868
So much valuable information that is ruined by me doubting both of you. It's hard to take either of you seriously when you're calling each other "retarded faggots". Can't you just pretend you're not on 4chan and be nice?

[Anonymous No.7112919]

>>7110287
Welcome to nu/vr/

[Anonymous No.7113419]

>>7111789
Ok, gonna keep this explanation short because it’s really been done to death and it’s pretty futile repeating myself:

Televisions did not ship (and still don’t today) with the most accurate picture settings out of the box. They do this for multiple reasons but basically, they want the picture to catch your eye on the show room floor. They think an unnaturally bright picture will look more vivid. Also, they tend to boost red so that people’s faces look livelier. Unless you correct this in the settings, you’re getting a worse picture than you should be. It doesn’t matter what Trinitrons looked like compared to Panasonics or whatever.
So how do you correct it? Do you start changing picture settings and just eyeball what looks good to you? You can, but that’s not any kind of objective correction. This is the SMPTE pattern. There’s a reason this used to be broadcast when networks turned off for the day, so you could use the pattern to make sure you were getting the same values for color as what was being broadcast. NTSC gets a bad rap because the color signal would drift when transmitted, but this isn’t a problem when you’re plugging something directly into your set, like an NES. NTSC is a standard with specific values for color. It’s not a standard made to only look correct on Trinitrons. With SMPTE bars you can get better color reproduction than the default settings, with varying levels of accuracy depending on what tools you use and the quality of your set. Consumer sets have their limits, but you can still get a high level of accuracy if you do it right. I’m not gonna get into how exactly to do it but if you do balance the colors, it should show the skies as being purplish.

[Anonymous No.7113628]

Any other games use blue and purple, main ones I can think of are micro machines as well as Tom and Jerry.