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DOOM THREAD / 90s FPS THREAD - Last thread >>7092495

Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other 90s FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~


(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Thief, Deus Ex)
-Album of infographics with setup information and user-made content recommendations

Same thing, but in video format:

IWADs and more (>6 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Classic Quake Trilogy pastebin (Updated 2020): https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhU
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Doom, Quake, Douk, Blood, and more)
More /vr/ shooters
Doom Shovelware
FTP archive for old stuff Fileplanet

Doom RPG series



Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/








>> No.7097242
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500ml of /vr/
BETA: https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/7041037/#7043379

=== NEWS ===

[11-19]POWERSLAVE: Exhumed is finally commercially released on GOG (DOS version only)

[11-18](released 4 days ago)Doom Free Roam pack, turns Doom 1 and 2 into a single istance open world game

[11-18](a month late)Eternity Engine 4.01 was released last month and it flew under everyone's radar.

[11-18]Daerik does World 1st Sunlust D2All-UVMax

[11-18]The DOOM 64 source code reverse engineering for the real N64 hardware finally released by GEC.

[11-15]New progs_dump id1 styled map released:

[11-14] LA Tailor Girl updated:

[11-10] Serious Sam Collection coming to Switch November 17

[11-7] Judge Doomer updates his alpha:
>>7059803 (Cross-thread) (Cross-thread)

[11-7] 2048 units of /vr/ mappers start Temporal Tantrum project:
>>7059720 (Cross-thread) (Cross-thread)

[11-6] Guncaster 3.777 released

[11-4] Faithless (Heretic megawad) - beta released

[11-4] Wadsmoosh 1.3 released (can grab intersmission screens from Unity ports)

=== PREVIOUS ===


>> No.7097257

Thank God, please let this be a fresh start

>> No.7097265

Can you imagine people who don't pistol start threads?

>> No.7097267
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Also this weekend will be RTCW, since the game was released this day as HL and is 20 years old, with Id not even referencing the game or paying a good homage for it

>> No.7097279
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No. Take your punishment. It's time for the replay.

>> No.7097281
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When ROTT was released to the Doom-crazed public, it got fairly good reviews: "Rise of the Triad is sure to have every Doom freak in the world lining up just to drool over it." Said one magazine. "I've played ROTT and it's good. REEEEEEEEEEEEALLY good! Honestly, I can't think of any reason why every DOOM nut in the country won't flock to this game when it's released. It's beautiful, fast and challenging. Rise of the Triad is truly an awesome game." Computer Gaming World raved. Other magazines gave it similar reviews, so-so reviews or just dismissed it as another clone.

>> No.7097282

Alien Vendetta, huh?

>> No.7097286

Way too early to make a new thread, but whatever.

>> No.7097290

Misri Halek deserved better then this

>> No.7097293
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Hey, it could be fucking based. Doom and Doom II RPG are as is Wolfenstein RPG. I could see something with the lore of Blood working well with NPCs and simple quests like what is found in the iD RPGs. Duke too could be a campy tongue-in-cheek affair with lots of 4th wall breaking inside jokes for retro shooter fans. It would work well.

>> No.7097295

Trying to post genuine posts in derailed generals is the true punishment I fear.

This is not a bad thing.

How is AV solo? I've only every played it hammered on Doomseeker coop, I don't remember a thing.

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>> No.7097308 [DELETED] 

we were almost at 600 posts, if it was months ago, this wouldn't be a problem, but now its better be safe than worry due to the rampant shitposting threads

Projecting yourself as 8bit hguy doesnt help either alf

>> No.7097310

Are you kidding DukeRPG or BloodRPG would be fucking rad

>> No.7097315 [DELETED] 
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Half-Life is gay and marked the end of the Golden Age of FPS. No amount of coping (you)s will ever change this fact.

>> No.7097316 [DELETED] 

/vr/ is not that fast, and these threads can last days after it reaches bump limit.

>> No.7097318 [DELETED] 

shut the hell up nobody cares and nobody asked

>> No.7097320

archvile party house with good music and detailed maps

>> No.7097325 [DELETED] 

Go back to suck off ROTT and other shitty obscure 2.5D that no one cares about.

>> No.7097327
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Yeah it would be, that's what I meant. It would be awesome. Carmack wrote the engine for the id RPGs so I don't see why he wouldn't have released the source code. Current id probably wouldn't but we can hope, it would be awesome just to do a TC with replacement assets and story to make it Duke or Blood or even Shadow Warrior

>> No.7097328

I think he was saying that all these ideas are rad. Either way, if somebody made Duke and Blood base mods for Doom RPG and they're good enough there could potentially be /VR/ community mapping based around it. That would be absolutely rad.

Archvile party house? You've piqued my interest.

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>> No.7097334

woah thats a lot of deleted posts

>> No.7097335 [DELETED] 

If you dont like 2.5 shooters why are you even in the thread?

>> No.7097338

Jannies, do as /pol/ did and ban alf
he's only here because they banned him and his friends there for derailing threads with copeposting

>> No.7097342
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Screaming at clouds about some guy from YouTube again I see?

>> No.7097343

Let me guess, Alf threw a tantrum over the OP?

>> No.7097346

desu they didn't develop it.

>> No.7097347

One guy made two posts saying it sucked and the schizo is calling for him to be banned.

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>> No.7097349

Wolf 2001 and 2009 are both abandonware without official releases.

>> No.7097354 [DELETED] 

>(Cross-thread) (Cross-thread)
you're in such a rush to stir shit that you start threads almost a full day in advance. just fuck off with your petty faggotry already.

>> No.7097356

give me a few hours to find it and i'll ruin it forever with doom remake 4 textures

>> No.7097358

Raven made that and the 2009 Wolfenstein. I recently played the 2009 one, which is by far the most forgotten game in the series, and its not too bad. Kind of a semi-open world city where you go on different missions and stuff. It's cool.

>> No.7097359

RTCW is still sold on steam and GoG

and it even got a community remaster recently, that it was even news here.

>> No.7097369

You answered the question I was typing out, bless your heart, Anon. I haven't played RtCW since around the time it came out, it'll be great to give it a go again.

>> No.7097372

Also the only game who has issues is Wolf2009, and you can blame Fucking Activision for it, though this may not be a problem soon once the deal is done inbetween Zenimax and MS, and MS goes on against Activision for the Mechwarrior 2 and other stuff that kotick is hiding at their archives claiming that they dont have time to find.

>> No.7097373 [DELETED] 

What are talking about faggot?

>> No.7097376

Uh google says Half Lifes 20th anniversary was 2 years ago

>> No.7097381
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reminder that this dude is going to space while alf is gonna die of a blood clot from sitting here and shitposting too long. half-life always wins baby

>> No.7097385

I bought RTCW on PC at launch for $59.99. I was about 13 or 14 and had been saving my money, for what I wasn't sure. I didn't even know it was coming out but I went to a Wal-Mart with my cousins and saw it. My older cousin called me a retard for spending my money on it, he hated FPS and was into shit like Starcraft and Diablo II, but goddamn if I didn't get countless of enjoyment out of it. Great game.

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Cope, Half-Life is shit

>> No.7097401

If I recall correctly it didn't require the disc to be inserted to play it once installed, so I remember just letting all my friends borrow and install it

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thread theme

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Superior thread theme:

>> No.7097414

and yet is still recent, because valve lifted their finger only to promote HL Alyx, but never did nothing towards HL over the years.
the SOURCE port is still broke, and the GoldSRC og game has issues with Steam that only XASH fixes it.

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Superior thread theme:

>> No.7097421

I didn't play it as much as other shooters that came out at the time (I was 7 and preferred Medal of Honor AA) but I remember my Dad had one Hell of a fun time with it. Now that I'm older it's time to check it out properly and get it running on my dad's pc for him too - I'm actually super excited now. Thanks for sharing your memories, dude. Also, are you in the States? Leaf here, I miss the days when a brand-new AAA PC game was around $40 CAD + taxes. New games here nowadays are $80 and the new-gen shit is now around $90. I know to take inflation into account, but spending close to $100 on a single game nowadays is fucking depressing and I even have a passable job here.

>> No.7097427

So its what, actually the 22nd anniversary then? That Twitter dude in OP is retarded.

>> No.7097431

I'm from the states yeah and it may have actually been 40 or 50, I don't really remember. It was alot for me to spend with my own money I remember.

>> No.7097432
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look at that lithe and luscious piece of demon booty

>> No.7097437
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oчeнь хopoшo! Very Nice!

>> No.7097446

oh god i completely forgot about liquidator 3d action

>> No.7097447

Why are you shilling this garbage?

>> No.7097451

Get out of here, Ivan.

>> No.7097452

hey so i did some investigation, i think the reason why they can't open source doom RPG is because fountainhead were the main devs

>> No.7097453

no it looks pretty shitty, but i like me some demon titties

>> No.7097454

that was 2 years ago, /vr/ even made fun of it and the thread was comfy because of maps and other stuff.
in fact the /vm/ thread got some stuff of late for their Sven Co-Op party vans

>> No.7097460

Why does it anger you? Its comically shitty and obscure. Are you a slav who is ashamed?

>> No.7097461

Aw I bet you're right. That fucking sucks. Carmack wrote the engine but the actual assets/making a game around it was Fountainhead I believe. Sucks.

>> No.7097462

That sound design is pretty bad, weapons seem to be just reskins of Douk 3D weapons just way uglier, and the key icon is fucked on the HUD, though I assume that's because he's playing EDuke which is breaking shit.
Fighting skeletons is good though.

>> No.7097463

it's DR. Freeman

>> No.7097464

Either way, that is still a Hell of a lot of money to save as a young teen in 2001. Kudos to you, dude. I got really lucky in that my dad introduced my older brother and I to gaming, the only reason I played most of the stuff we had as a kid was because dad worked endless overtime so our family could live. He's retiring pretty soon actually, it'll be good to see him relax and go back to some his old hobbies after years of slaving away.

>> No.7097476
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Half-Life is gay bro, Gordon Freeman is the worst FPS protag and gets shit all over by the likes of Doomguy, Ranger, Duke, Caleb, Lo Wang etc

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>> No.7097486

Wasn't there a Doom mod that recreated Doom RPG in the Doom engine? That could be modded into other ones like Duke or Blood

>> No.7097487

it's still really unfinished so far, i'd give it maybe a couple more years or so

>> No.7097490

>Either way, that is still a Hell of a lot of money to save as a young teen in 2001. Kudos to you, dude.

lol go back to le r eddit, thats fuck all to save if you actually want something

>> No.7097493 [DELETED] 

Friendly reminder that /doom/ does not like trannies

>> No.7097496

Half-Life gave birth to cs, which is THE game I love the most.
Apart from that, the game itself actually does suck a giraffe's dick
I mean COME ON, give me something to fucking shoot already, goddamn

>> No.7097497

>he's spamming his shitty obscure shooter because butthurt of the OP

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Honestly he just gets shit on for his appearance, which I call Stoner x Mongoloid in the comments constantly and it got to him. I think he has some chronic health issues but nothing life threatening.

>> No.7097501 [DELETED] 

Stay mad russian subhuman

>> No.7097502

No one thinks Liquidator 3D is good retard

>> No.7097505

I didn't get money from my parents all the time and when I did for doing something it wasn't much and kids are naturally inclined to spend money as soon as they get it

>> No.7097506

no anon, (you) are not allowed to derail the thread with that of all things

>> No.7097508

Thats awesome, my dad was a total boomer who had never played anything but Donkey Kong and had no interest in video games. I was an only child too so it was sort of just me and a couple friends and then later other people on the internet once we got it in like 1997 that I could share the hobby with

>> No.7097514

Naw they're fine. A few worked on BTSX, and all the ones I know are perfectly good people. I know a few that make pretty nice music too.

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What's your favorite "special" weapon in an FPS, weapons that are scarce/ammo is rare for like the BFG, etc.

Mine is the Excalibat.

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>> No.7097595
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Speaking of the potential to mod DOOM RPG into other famous FPS rpgs, why aren't there any TCs or major mods for Strife? I assume it could be modded in the way described by putting in assets and changing dialogue/missions to be Duke or Blood themed. Would be very neat I think.

>> No.7097605

Modding strife is an absolute pain in the ass, and a lot of things work differently from doom/hexen/etc. Even stuff like the conversation ID system can be wonky af, especially compared to just blanket "replaces" designations.

Its not insurmountable or anything, most modders just can't be bothered.

>> No.7097607
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I have never really delved into user made content for Half-Life. Anything you guys would recommend?

>> No.7097613

Sven co-op is always good.

>> No.7097614

Most children don't have rich parents or paperroutes and get a very small allowance, I got paid an allowance half my age once every two weeks until I finally grew old enough to get a job. It taught me the true value of money, something you clearly never learned.

My mom was the exact same way, she doesn't give a shit about most games but hot DAMN she blew DKC and Commander Keen apart back in the day. That being said too, about twice a year we'd rent an N64 for a weekend and the whole family would sit and watch/play together. It was good times, even if I was so young that my brother and sister btfo'd me on Goldeneye. My only memory of that game until I played it again years later was the music from the death screen hahahaha

>> No.7097625

Sweet Half-Life*
Point Of View*
Case Closed
Half-Quake: Amen*
Half-Quake: Sunrise*
Afraid of Monsters: Director's Cut*
Cry Of Fear*
Mistake -1

Must plays marked with an asterisk. I hear Half-Life Echoes is great, but I've yet to check it out.

>> No.7097636
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Damn, that sucks. I would love a Blood FPS/RPG hybrid even just a turn based one like Doom RPG. Heretic/Hexen would work really well in format as well. A java Duke Nukem themed one like Doom RPG would be a hell of a lot better than the complete dogshit ones Duke actually got

>> No.7097637
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Unattended meatballs don't waste their time. If only the BFG was somewhere around

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>> No.7097641

By the way, if anyone reading this ever decides to give Sweet Half-Life a roll, make a manual save when you reach the map shl10 (or maybe it's sh10, don't remember). It's not a spoiler to say that from the tenth map, the game diverges HEAVILY in two different routes depending on your actions in this map.

>> No.7097647

What wad and weapon set?

>> No.7097651

there is Strife Overhaul but the modder accidently made the entire thing break after a mandatory mission, making it impossible to complete the game

>> No.7097665

Wow what the fuck lol

>> No.7097673

I never understood the naming of that mod. Why is it named after Quake if it has nothing to do with it? Unless I'm missing something, but there doesn't seem to be a reference to Quake anywhere.

>> No.7097680
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Do you guys think DOOM would have been better or worse if Tom Hall's DOOM Bible, which he went on to adapt parts of for ROTT, would have been used? What about if it had actually been the one continuous world as Tom had originally thought it would be when writing said Bible?

Say what you will about Hall but he has creative skill, the Commander Keen series was a huge hit and it was his brainchild on top of Carmack's engine.

>> No.7097689

I don't quite remember. And then Amen has far less to do with the Quake name. Very peculiar trilogy, but one I love.

>> No.7097690

I wouldn't mind seeing a version of Doom if Tom Hall's ideas actually stuck, but I'm fine with the game we have.

>> No.7097691
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>Sven co-op is always gay

>> No.7097694

Eviternity, Jenesis hud and Eriance sprites. Weapon animations were stitched by me via DEHEXTRA with presumption of vanilla accuracy, correct tick timings and all that. Demos still get desynced though for some reason and I've no idea on how to fix that

>> No.7097705

He didn't post Liquidator tho.

>> No.7097724
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I think Assault on Tei Tanga incorporates some of his ideas:

The character select screen above is from Doom Delta which also incorporates things from the early versions/Tom's Doom bible

>> No.7097738

I posted Liquidator and I like Half-Life, not the same guys

>> No.7097742

Doom is really fun. I replayed Playstation doom for the first time in many years and had a blast. I quit a ways into the Doom 2 levels though. I don't know what it is, but I find Doom 2 really boring.

>> No.7097754

Does PSX Doom have the same levels as vanilla Doom/Doom 2 or are they different altogether? I've never played it.

>> No.7097757

Thank you, anon. I'll check out some of these and try one tommorow.

>> No.7097761
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I heard that Doom PSX has an all new soundtrack made by the guy who did the music for Doom 64 and that it is similarly creepy sounding. Is the rest of the game the same otherwise or is anything else different enough to warrant a playthough?

>> No.7097762

It is a remix of both games. It has a combination of the consolized Jaguar levels from Doom 1 with a large selection of Doom 2 levels (which are not consolized and thus do have performance issues unlike the Doom 1 levels). The 2 games are combined in one campaign and the Cyber Demon is moved near the end with the Spider Mastermind being the final boss of the game.

>> No.7097771

Where the fuck did they come up with Doomguy wearing fucking blue jeans and a denim jacket?

>> No.7097779

Same place the German soldiers in Wolfenstein 3d picked up their M16s.

>> No.7097783

He also did for Quake 2 for N64
also that is something that i would like to see redone with Q2PSX for Q2, same goes for Q1 N64

>> No.7097787

It is a cool way to experience Doom. If you've played it, its nothing new, but its a cool remix of the games with a cool new soundtrack. I know the original is a classic, but honestly I think the quality is heavily frontloaded and once you get past the first few levels where the classic soundtrack shines, I actually prefer new ambient soundtrack. Runs great for a 90s fps, but obviously modern source ports blow it away in performance. Not sure if it works with any sourceports. To be honest, I've never run Doom with one, only Hexen (which was awesome at high resolution/framerate).

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And then there is this thing with skybox, but no such issue with software renderer. Haven't checked other source ports but Graf's prboom

>> No.7097810

It's called a canadian tuxedo and it's what all chad's wear

t. chad

>> No.7097813
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Kek. That cover always cracked me up and annoys me at the same time. I have the covers of a shit load of retro fps blown up and printed out on my wall and I used the second cover from left and Spear of Destiny cover, I really like both of those. The cover for the strategy guide is also good in a cheesy 90s cover art kinda way even though the gun that soldier has is definitely not a Luger

>> No.7097816

>He also did for Quake 2 for N64
But Sonic Mayhem's soundtrack is literally the best of any iD game besides Doom. I would rather have Quad Machine and Descent Into Cerberon than the creepy weird shit like 64

>> No.7097817

Favorite level?
Favorite weapon?
Favorite track?
Favorite enemy?
Favorite boss?
Favorite mod?

>> No.7097832

Huh that actually sounds pretty interesting, is there a PSXDoom wad out there or will I just have to emulate it?

Ah, a fellow Leaf brother. I'll go put on my denim vest in your honour.

>> No.7097845

They Hunger is a classic.

>> No.7097854

ROTT wasn't very successful in sales (especially compared to Doom), but since it was a good game that had many features that Doom didn't have (Even features Quake doesn't have...even some Unreal doesn't have) it developed a small, cult following. Most people ignored it (or didn't know it existed). Or they just dismissed it as a thing of the past after hearing about the 90 degree wall thing. Many critcs at the time gave the game good scores and liked it but it also got shit on in some reviews for its dated tech. A real shame honestly because it really is a good game and a totally unique take on FPS design. For better or worse, there really is no other shooter like it.

>> No.7097884

Surface Tension
Op4's HMG
Drums and Riffs
Syndicate Black Ops for multiplayer
Sweet Half-Life

>> No.7097957
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Tricks and Traps
Deep Into the Code
Hell on Earth Starter Pack

Oh you meant Fag-Life? Idk its shit

>> No.7097967

Rent free

>> No.7097972

On a rail
I can't remember the track names
Sven Co-op

>> No.7098007

> tfw you pre-emptively pull out your bfg for a potential arch-vile trap, and there is indeed an arch-vile trap and you're prepared

>> No.7098035

I still can't wrap my mind about Half-life being a retro FPS. It's so relevant and innovative

>> No.7098036

Surface Tension
Gluon Gun
The credits theme
SSH and Sweet Half Life

>> No.7098046

I think its more of FPS's not really advancing since then. Yes graphics look 1000x better, but the gameplay feels the same. AI still feels like a joke, and gimmicks are gimmicks.

>> No.7098069

Episode 3 and 4 of Duke Nukem 3D are better than anything Doom had to offer

>> No.7098081

i don't see it as a retro FPS, it's in it's own weird little zone sandwiched between retro and modern

>> No.7098102
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>intersmission screens from Unity ports)
What are the differences from nash widepix?

>> No.7098126

19 Nov is my birthday c:

>> No.7098128

Happy belated birthday.

>> No.7098132

Fuck you

>> No.7098134

Skies that are too tall are fucky somehow. I had to crop some skies I used just for that.

>> No.7098146


>> No.7098246
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Gave Crispy DOOM a try recently and love it, perfect for people like me who want a mostly vanilla experience with a few modern touches like 60 fps and widescreen. What are some of the best WADs that can work with it i.e. limit removing but no Z/GZDOOM fuckery. I've been having alot of fun with Back to Saturn X as well as Alien Vendetta and want more.

>> No.7098270
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see for yourself I guess

>> No.7098279

I know it's probably going to be something lame and boring and I really shouldn't care at all but I really want to see Doom win GOTY at the VGAs this year. It's the only thing that deserves it.

>> No.7098293

I want btsx e3 to be released this year. :(

>> No.7098296

It's the evolutionary step between the annoying narrative-obsessed shooter of the oughts and early 10s and the pure gameplay retro shooter of the 90s. It's probably my favorite style of shooter, the only thing that I might change about it is a few less sluggish setpieces that end up annoying on the replay.

It hurts liking both uninterrupted smooth gameplay and immersive storytelling. You really do have to choose between one or the other 90% of the time.

>> No.7098308

Yes, and they visibly glitch out on moving sectors.

>> No.7098332

based ganymede

>> No.7098334

I think it'll either be Doom Eternal or Animal Crossing, desu

>> No.7098337

Episode 4's only good levels were Allen Blum's

>> No.7098351

I'm kinda doubting it'll be this year, unfortunately.

>> No.7098352

Probably because theres no real standard for handling tall skies in GL ports. They all do it differently.

>> No.7098374

As in the lightmap doesnt change as they move, or something more severe? That happens in Quake and nobody particularly cares.

>> No.7098417

the lightmaps stretch/compress along walls

>> No.7098443

Powerslave officially released?

That means someone has the license and is aware of the property. And they don't do a modern port?

Why not just contact Nightdive?

>> No.7098487

Alien Vendetta is great, but also very hard. Unless you're a highly seasoned and skilled player, I would suggest you do it on HMP.

>> No.7098525

There are two already existing perfectly good and accurate enough sourceports of the DOS version and they release a DOSbox version.

>> No.7098553

Is it odd that I find killing 1 or 2 Barons to be annoying and tedious but killing a horde of 50 to be a fun and tense challenge?

>> No.7098559

Sauce on that manga?
Google and Yandex lead to no result

>> No.7098589
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By the way it also works on roofs, not only on the floors.

>> No.7098590

Use saucenao for lineart japanese stuff

>> No.7098614
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I finally realized something about Ion Fury. As much as I love the gameplay, the aesthetics, and Shelly's really hot with a great voice, they didn't lean far enough AT ALL into Shelly's role as a police officer in this hellhole future D.C. Shelly's lines are more indicative of a woman being badass than a woman of the law. Instead of
>Get that fucking jalopy out of here!
Why couldn't it be something like
>Article 62, paragraph C, VTOL operating illegally. Deadly force authorized.
>Your second amendment won't save you now
as you gun down some enemies. Just anything at all related to her profession for fuck's sake. But by the same token, I think it would have been career suicide for everyone involved considering the times we live in to have a video game where you play as a cop gleefully engaging in police brutality.
tl;dr Ion Fury is 20 years too late to the party to be the game it oughta be but man that shotgun tickles my balls and so does Shelly.

>> No.7098618

The guy's LARPing as a Ruskie. He always takes on a different identity. I saw an actual Russian anon try to debate him and he pretended to be a girl. This is how fucking schizo Alf is. He takes a new identity every time he's cornered.

>> No.7098619

Your cousin sounds like an asshole.

>> No.7098657

is there a moon man monster pack wad

>> No.7098668

WWII Nazis using modern weapons reminds me of how in Medieval tapastries they'd usually depict wars from centuries prior (i.e. Wars in Rome) with Knightly armor and plate armor rather than armor and equipment that fits the time period. It's so fascinating.

>> No.7098676

20 bucks they didn't lean into Shelly being a cop to avoid upsetting people.

>> No.7098683


>> No.7098692

>Internal affairs, eat your heart out!
Oh fuck me the potential is endlessly salivating.

>> No.7098709

I like the Excalibat a lot, because it has a melee swing you can use without spending ammo, and it can send the fatass enforcers fucking flying up into the sky.

>> No.7098721
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>I have the covers of a shit load of retro fps blown up and printed out on my wall

You may enjoy these highres versions

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>> No.7098735
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>> No.7098737

That looks like fucking shit.

>> No.7098738
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>> No.7098742
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>> No.7098746
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There is a variant of this one with a different gun, also check the artists' page

>> No.7098749
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Only got lowres for this one also

>> No.7098751

Whoops meant to reply to >>7098657

>> No.7098753

Shelly being a cop seemed like a complete afterthought.

>> No.7098754

>faggot who likes BD tier mods lacks the taste to enjoy half-life
You really can't make this shit up

>> No.7098758

Goddamn I love Shadow Warrior.

>> No.7098761

This one is by Julie Bell, it was considered for the cover of Shadow Warrior at some point during its VERY long development history (its earliest prototype dates to 1992, as a very crude and simple demo of a corridor shooter). If you've ever looked at its development content, it's kind of crazy how much it changed at different times, the reboot from 2013 draws a bunch of ideas from there, like the emphasis on magical spells, or the magazine fed crossbow with the grenade darts.
Compare to the 1997 game, which left out a lot of the spellcasting, Lo Wang instead using mostly modern weapons and sci-fi gadgets.

Anyway, I like it a lot, it has color, and shows a cool muscled ninja dude in mortal combat with a big bad snake monster.

>> No.7098762

Noone cares about the contemporary reviews. ROTT just isn't a fun game. Fuck Civvie 11's cancerous opinions.

>> No.7098778

Older artwork sure does hit different.

>> No.7098779


>> No.7098793

Yeah, I love the aesthetic it has. I really hope Shadow Warrior 3 will be closer to the 1997 and 2013 games, because Shadow Warrior 2 made me fucking miserable.

>> No.7098823

All that buildup just to fire off your asinine contrarian opinion. Shaking my damn head.

>> No.7098832

Derelict is the only good E4 map.

>> No.7098836

Are the MP servers of Marathon alive nowadays or are they extinct? I'd host a /vr/ deathmatch server if I knew how to.

>> No.7098840

Marathon has a small sometimes dedicated multiplayer base. It's very easy to set up a server with AlephOne; it's right there in the main menu. The problem is Marahton's DM is dogshit compared to Doom's. Whoever gets the dual shotguns wins.

>> No.7098854

That's true. I'd love to have an MP focused TC dedicated in making the weapons more balanced. I'd do it if they could finally make a modern day working Forge, that shit was great and even more user friendly than Doom map editors.

>> No.7098865
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Play the PC version.

First release of PSX Doom is Doom and Doom 2 packed together as two campaigns.
Final Doom for the PSX is a mix of levels picked from TNT Evilution, The Plutonia Experiment, and The Master Levels. Since some of TNT's levels are too intense for the PSX, and most of Plutonia's levels are, a bunch of TNT's levels are modified, and most of Plutonia's levels are removed completely, mostly replaced with Master Levels.
I think that 90% of the Master Levels are kinda bad, so I don't love this decision. TNT also had a lot of really good and atmospheric music originally, which is replaced with the same old Hodges ambient themes, which I'm not crazy about either.

Yeah, music and sound design by Aubrey Hodges, so it's the same set of stuff there. I don't exactly love his music, it's ok at times for D64, but I think overall it's kind of boring. The sound design is excellent in some ways, but falters in others. In my opinion anyway.

For content, a bunch of Doom 1 levels are modified to make them perform better on the PSX, using existing "Console Doom" sets, this wasn't really done as much with Doom 2, so on those levels performance isn't always so great. The way the Arch-Vile works makes him unsuitable for the PSX, and he has a lot of frames originally, the decision by Williams was to plain axe him completely, since they felt they couldn't do him justice. Replacing his actor is a meathook prop, occasionally he's replaced with a Revenant in the levels. On UV, you can occasionally find a Doom 2 monster in a Doom 1 secret area. Icon Of Sin is completely absent due to pic related, instead there's two Spiderminds.

PSX Doom does overall add some cool stuff like colored sector lighting, the occasional use of an animated burning sky, as well as reverb for sound effects. There's a couple of new levels as well. The Final Doom release supports the use of the PSX mouse peripheral.

Overall, it's pretty cool, but D64 is much cooler.

>> No.7098869

Blow it out your ass.

>> No.7098927
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There's a Playstation Doom TC for GzDoom, yes (to allow for the colored sector stuff, sound reverb, etc). There's a version for imitating PSX monster and weapon behavior (and overall this gets it pretty damn close, though not perfect), and a version without, if you want to play the levels with gameplay mods.

This is a PSX Doom TC which is made from a modified fork of GzDoom to make it as close as possible:

Here's Consolation Prize, which is basically the "vaccinated" version of the PSX Doom level sets, complete with Final Doom level set:
I personally find that Immoral Conduct Special Edition (which you can grab a GzDoom conversion of here: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=48036 ) has an aesthetic that somehow fits nicely with the slightly gritty aesthetic of the Playstation levels, with their darker appearance, grainy textures, and colored lighting.

>> No.7098997
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Theres doom 2 monsters everywhere actually, probably my favorite part of ps1 doom.

>> No.7099021

I liked Duke Burger and Going Postal, myself.

>> No.7099060

I think the last three levels of E4 come together as a really cool series of challenge gauntlets.

>> No.7099110

ITT: Post your controversial opinions
I think Final Doomer is a more interesting way to play Doom since it revamps the pistol in such a way that pistol starts aren't about dodging enemies and obstacles until you find a shotgun, but about enjoying the act of killing demons.

>> No.7099128

Just what are the UAC storing in those boxes? How do they get in there?

>> No.7099184

>Favorite level?
any level with marines
>Favorite weapon?
The machinegun
>Favorite track?
Nuclear mission jam
>Favorite enemy?
the Marines
Favorite boss?
Favorite mod?

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>> No.7099206

>Favorite level?
I like the ones in Surface Tension

>Favorite weapon?
The experimental ones are fun for their high damage output, I'll say the Egon Gun, though you get it awfully late.
Overall, the shotgun is good as a general workhorse, since you can carry lots of shells with you. I wish there was a simple way to modify the weapons so that I could make the MP5/M4 not be really bleh.

>Favorite track?
Combine Harvester

>Favorite enemy?

>Favorite boss?
Is there much of one? I kinda like the fights with the attack helicopters.

>Favorite mod?
That's a true Sophie's Choice, but I'll say The Specialists.

>> No.7099231

How the fuck does faggot Randy hold on to Duke when he hasn't done jackshit with the IP since Forever

>> No.7099245
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Are there any WADs that come even close to Pirate Doom in terms of coziness? I love this shit.

>> No.7099251

Golden Souls series. Alfonzone on occasion.

>> No.7099263

Didn't know they incorporate Rayman in Pirate Doom.

>> No.7099265

He was about 5 years older than me and yeah he was and is an asshole. Jokes on him because hes still a forever alone and I have a wife and kids.

>> No.7099269

Fucking awesome, yes some of these will definitely replace lower res versions I had or will be joining the rest on the wall

>> No.7099281
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I looked at the readme for this megawad and it turns out this dude made two maps for Back to Saturn X so I'm definitely going to love this, thanks!

>> No.7099283
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Nah, fuck you.

>> No.7099314
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If you haven't played Scythe yet, I'd recommend that the strongest. It starts off very easy and ends very hard so it has the full spectrum of difficulty and will engage you no matter what. Also the low difficulty of the first episode (first ten maps) means you can try to beat them in one run without dying, and if that's too easy, you can do it with fast monsters on.

And as for other maps: (vanilla) Base Ganymede, Doom Zero, Suspended in Dusk, No End in Sight, (limit-removing) any of the DBP's (Doomer Boards Projects), there's like 30 of them, try DBP20 or DBP01 (this one doesn't have difficulty settings so you'll have to change it to skill 1 if you want to make it easier), Double Impact, A.L.T., Sacrament, Deathless, Deus Vult, End Point, JPCP, Nerve.wad, Scythe 2, Scythe X, Sigil, Syringe, Struggle: Antaresian Legacy, Whitemare

>> No.7099326
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Preacher.wad is by the same author. It's not cozy at all, it's extremely chaotic, but I thought I'd recommend it because it's my favorite PWAD. The way the levels are designed is, the ammo is spread thinly across the level so you have to keep moving to get more ammo or you run out, but this constant progression keeps alerting new monsters.

>> No.7099330

Based I love that the Sarias/Alf/DWTerminator schizo is featured. Im sure it's the same guy as when this was made.

>> No.7099338

Is that the Freedoom replacement for the Mancubus? That looks fucking stupid.

>> No.7099356

Rise of the Wool Ball

>> No.7099369

that nigger was sarais and another faggot who hated source ports back then, alf if you go by the archives was still at /v/.
jesus, those days were a rollercoaster of shit. Even marph left this place and he used to found some good and strange obscure shit to make videos later on

>> No.7099403

I meant the guy who still screams at clouds about anons being these guys, ala the guy talking to himself with hand puppets.

>> No.7099436
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The most they did was have Doctor Baldguy mention her disciplinary record. Regardless it's still my favorite shooter released this decade.

>> No.7099440

Lilth wad, Greezo 2, Terry.wad

>> No.7099452
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>> No.7099501

I've been here since the start, and I don't remember Marphy posting here.

I think that's just a common symptom of schizophrenia, and not necessarily the same dude. Notice he's also depicted as Donald Duck, after 'Donald', who was some sort of spook here (I think he was the Doomkart lunatic?)

>> No.7099658

long hair caleb is best caleb

>> No.7099660
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Which of these looks more appealing and actually fun?

>> No.7099670

holy shit, two cakes!

>> No.7099681

Was there a sprite or art done of the Bruce Campbell Caleb? I prefer old school Caleb but supposedly he wasn't supposed to look all fucked up in the cinematics like that. In my head canon though, it's old school Caleb but with long hair (and ears obviously)

>> No.7099686
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For me, it's bald, earless Caleb

>> No.7099690

Are you still seething anon?
Let it go.

>> No.7099706

Desuarchive is superior

Now answer the question

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>> No.7099713

You forgot to pick one, left or right?

>> No.7099720

marph lurked at /vr/ once in a while, it was mostly the obscure stuff that he did in his videos.

>> No.7099735

That comic reeks of AIDS cum and buttsex.

>> No.7099767

Cybermage was just another doom clone, nothing special.
Strife was way better.

>> No.7099776

Powerslave EX is back. Coming to consoles and PC.

>> No.7099779


>> No.7099780
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Wrong, Cybermage was an innovator ahead of its time.

>> No.7099784

Kaiser must be giggling atm

we saw only that the DOS version was released, next Op i'll edit with that
also does someone has RTCW meme images?

>> No.7099786

That's the Build version, not the PS1/Saturn version.

>> No.7099791

Literally who cares if companies tweet shit? The internet was a fucking mistake.

>> No.7099804

DUDE FUCK YES. We were just discussing Powerslave earlier. I was trying to figure out which version to play but if its coming to consoles I will just wait for that so I can get maximum comfy on my couch and play. Someone even asked what ever happened to Nightdive potentially rereleasing it, I guess there is your answer.

>> No.7099809

I noticed, but that's not the reason why I thought it was newsworthy. Like anon's post said, the tweet also mentions that Powerslave EX is coming, and that's the most we've heard of that in many years.

>> No.7099812

Better than nothing. Is the Saturn version really that much better?

>> No.7099814

I'm here with the Science Team!!!

>> No.7099816

Cope harder Bradley.

>> No.7099820

Half-Life sucks and ended the Golden Age of FPS.

>> No.7099826

now i hope that iron maiden doesnt go over this one like in the past, and embrace it because of the good ad.

mostly because the game itself fits with the music's lyrics

>> No.7099830

Is Plutonia 2 any good? Looks challenging, but the visuals of it are really turning me off.

>> No.7099832

Half Life is great and continued the golden age of shooters.
All those mods.

>> No.7099838
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No cope, you're simply wrong.

>> No.7099839

Play Strife or System Shock

>> No.7099846

It didn't. The Golden Age died with HL and we entered the Dark Age that we are still in the middle of, though the 90s shooter revival in recent years has provided some rays of light.

>> No.7099850

I've played both. Strife is decent. System Shock is hard to even call a proper FPS with those wonky as fuck controls and interface. Cybermage is on par with Strife in my opinion.

>> No.7099852

Its a completely different game.

>> No.7099853

No one believes your lies.

>> No.7099857

Would you say it's better overall?

>> No.7099859

>implying I need to choose
>implying you don't gargle ballsacks

>> No.7099860

Because you're all in denial. I hate to see it.

>> No.7099864

I didn't imply, I told you to choose. You don't want to because you know rhe answer is obviously Doom

>> No.7099865

Denial of what?
Of your shit taste?

>> No.7099869

That HL marked the death of the Golden Age of FPS 1992-1998

>> No.7099873

In your opinion.
We get it you are still butthurt over the OP.
This is getting sad anon.

>> No.7099875

Its objective fact. No amount of cope will change this.

>> No.7099886

Lol so mad

>> No.7099889

I don't need to make a choice. I pity you, maybe some day you can come to some sort of closure over whatever happened in your childhood.

>> No.7099913
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It ended the Golden Age of FPS. This is indisputable fact.

>> No.7099916

You choose the right side image then?

>> No.7099919

>can't bring proof

>> No.7099921

Simply look at a release of all FPS for 1998 and beyond. The SOUL dies and then virtually disappears completely with Gay-Life.

>> No.7099923

No the left one.
Now dilate.

>> No.7099926

Ok /v/edditor.

>> No.7099927
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Imagine going schizophrenic just because people like a video game that you don't like.

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>> No.7099943

You mean Unreal, Quake 3, Serious Sam, NOLF, Shogo, Sin, RTCW, ET, Deus Ex, System Shock 2, Tribes.

>> No.7099945

look. we all know you come here to whine about half life because it reminds you of the time 3 black men raped you in an alley in the fall of 1998 but seriously get over it.

shitting on half life won't unrape you.

>> No.7099946

More buzzwords and seethe.
Keep going your salt is delicious.

>> No.7099949

Indeed you are. :)

>> No.7099951

I said it virtually disappears. There are outliers, exceptions to the rule as with everything. But they're a handful in a sea of SOULLESS shit.

>> No.7099954

Awful cope.
Just admit you don't play fps instead of larping.

>> No.7099961

All of this cope will not make Gordon Freeman a good protagonist or HL not shit.

>> No.7099965

The aesthetics and level design are really reminiscent of plutonia 1, especially the first 15ish levels. Later on it attempts to "pick up where plutonia left off" which basically means the levels get a lot longer, harder, and somewhat confusing to navigate. The visuals never really change drastically. I think it leans more into the vague jungle/military theme of the first, but it's still mostly stock textures. You'll probably like well enough if you liked the first but expect a challenge.

>> No.7099970

Improve your reading comprehension.

>> No.7099972

You will never be sane.

>> No.7099978

Take your meds.
HL will still be beloved and there's nothing you can do about it.

>> No.7099982

and your cope would remove the scars left by tyrone and his buddies on your rectum.

>> No.7100003
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You're correct. Unfortunately there are many people in this world who have shit taste or weren't around to know that the sprite era was just better.

>> No.7100004
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>> No.7100012

Keep larping /v/edditor.

>> No.7100013
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If you want the truth alfnigger and its fag friends
THE GOLDEN AGE WAS GARBAGE, Many useless clones were born out of DOOM and Wolf3d success!
only DOOM was the best of it, and even back then people praised quake 1 only for its graphics and multiplayer, and later on the 1st machinima demos.
Half Life renovated the genre from its stagnation along with Quake 2, 3, Unreal and later on RTCW.
If you want to BLAME a game who you zoom shit shills it in secret, its the 1st Console Medal Of Honor games from 1999, who streamlined everything in the industry due to easiness of production, while the PC one(MOHAA) stood away from it and became one of the best FPS games from its time, since 2015 took notes from RTCW, though all of it was too late because the industry followed the console standards due to easiness of making corridor narrative shooters and the many rejected hollywood screenwriters working for free.

And if you really, REALLY want to know and BLAME who is the one behind curtains for what FPS is what it is now, blame Stephen Spielberg since the asshole had its tentacles on the industry thanks to the kike friends he has along with the fact that he was one of the majoritarian owners of Dreamworks Games.

and to shoot you in the balls, HALF LIFE IS STILL QUAKE, IN CODE AND EVERYTHING, EVEN ITS SPEED AND GAMEPLAY WHO EARLIER MAPS EVEN HAD IT BEFORE HL1 WAS A THING, because it isn't made to be played slowly, but FAST due to the AI reaction times.
Oh and a nice bonus so i can repeat myself again and laugh at you, Halo didn't killed FPS as people claims it, it was always console World War 2 Shooters, who by irony, were made for sony consoles at 1st. Because Sony has to ruin everything in gaming since 1994.
And eat a Dick alf, Half life is great, Quake series with its ups and downs is great, and without those to revitalize the industry, the genre would had died.

Marathon is underrated as fuck and is still impressive til this day.

>> No.7100016

I generally don't play anything released after RTCW but there are exceptions such as Ion Fury, Warlock, Painkiller, Serious Sam and a few others.

>> No.7100019
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Even the worst Doom Clone had more soul than HL

>> No.7100023

Maybe you should play more games instead of having a 22 year old game living in your head rent free.

>> No.7100030

Yep a zoomie seeking validation.

>> No.7100034

I play plenty, there are hundreds and hundreds of FPS released between 1992 and 1998 alone to explore and play.

>> No.7100038

Validation? I am well aware my views are not the popular, pretty much no one here seems to agree. Doesn't mean they aren't correct.

>> No.7100046

You are not fooling anyone.
Then why does it trigger when people discuss this game?

>> No.7100053
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Okay so moving on, should I just skip the Nightdive Powerslave release and play it emulated for Saturn? I assume I could map standard shooter controls for it on a controller if nothing else. I see everyone in the comments of that tweet announcing it sating "If its the Saturn version I'm in" "Oh no this is the Build version" etc. Does it suck or something?

>> No.7100062 [DELETED] 

Alf is fucking desperate
Again, this is the same asshole who got banned from /pol/ of all places since he irl is a fucking castrated tranny from the discord raiding group.

i pretty much gave the real redpill about it

Play the build, saturn and EX
all 3 are different games on its own
also watch the based DF Retro video about the game.
the saturn port is interesting because it was made with TV output in mind for dithered filtering

>> No.7100065
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Just reached MAP10 of Going Down as well as much perceivable limits of my sanity. Totally relentless, previous experience with this wad hasn't helped at all

>> No.7100068

I thought you guys said he was DWTerminator from YouTube?

>> No.7100072 [DELETED] 

Not a tranny, don't use Discord, don't who Alf even is besides the name you scream when someone says they don't like HL. Take your meds.

>> No.7100076 [DELETED] 
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>based DF Retro video

>> No.7100078

This guy posts like the anti RE4 fag.

>> No.7100083

Im not the one seething over OP pic anon.

>> No.7100084

>everyone I don't like is one guy

>> No.7100087

OP pic is irrelevant, I express the same view in threads with Doom or other shooters in the OP pic as well.

>> No.7100093

Yep same posting style.
Congrats on being one of /vr/ lolcows.

>> No.7100095

>gargle ballsacks
he doesn't gargle ballsacks AND play hl and doom
are you even enjoying life?

>> No.7100103
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>you guys
its the same anon replying to himself over and over in an unfathomable autism death spiral

>> No.7100104 [DELETED] 
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>Yep same posting style.
>Congrats on being one of /vr/ lolcows.
Congrats on having Schizophrenia

>> No.7100105

Only when the game is mentioned because you can't help yourself.

>> No.7100110

So all those posts are the same guy yelling at himself? Bizarre.

>> No.7100112

>proving my point
Nice wojak i see you edited the nintendo tag.
Must take you a lot of time.

>> No.7100113

The dev already released the port for free years ago but took it down for legal reasons. Of course nothing truly disappears from the internet. Technically it's a port of the PS1 version, but the PS1 and Saturn are basically the same besides a couple alternate levels.
The Build version is a completely different game. You can play it with BuildGDX.

>> No.7100114

>Congrats on having Schizophrenia
This is coming from the same guy who has spent over a year of his life shitposting about Half-Life.

>> No.7100116

Yes alf, continue, also shall i say that you also access /mlp/ off all places in this cursed imageboard?

its also him too, He always keeps repeating retarded baits and evading bans.
And when someone paints it that its him, his fag friends shows up to defend him.
The /pol/ thead has details it.

also last time, his asshole started bleeding because of a HL OP thread after the hexen anniversary one, the mods intervened and banned him and his buttbuddies from this board.
For they to return right now, is possibly due to the ban evasion that they did at /pol/ due to the Biden shill posting.

>> No.7100117

True, I have an insatiable urge to express the truth.

>> No.7100119

Why should anybody care about the personal insecurities of the guy who made an informative video about a game? Go to kiwifarms or something if you want to laugh at random strangers' personal problems.

>> No.7100120

I see people on Twitter saying the PSX version is a nerfed version of the Saturn one. They're all pretty much shitting on anything besides the Saturn version.

>> No.7100124

Never went on /mlp/ and I wasn't even posting regularly here whenever this Alf guy was posting. I just seem to have the same views and I get called him.

>> No.7100125 [DELETED] 

See retard.
Your posts are getting deleted and now the anniversary will last longer.
Thanks for you schizophrenia

>> No.7100129
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>Why should anybody care about the personal insecurities of the guy who made an informative video about a game? Go to kiwifarms or something if you want to laugh at random strangers' personal problems.

>> No.7100130

Seems like a mental problem to me.

>> No.7100135

I dislike Half Life and any time i post about it people freak out and assume im this alf guy. And when i posted my reasons, Alf actually copied my post and reposted it. So its best to not even bother criticizing HL, that sperg has ruined it for everyone.

>> No.7100138

That depends. If you want your typical 90s FPS experience, get the DOS version. If you want a first person Metroidvania with items and upgrades to collect, get the PS1/Saturn version, which is the version everyone recommends.

>> No.7100139
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certainly gives off that vibe

>anon starts to shit up the thread bitching about hl or whatever
>without fail someone starts complaining about discord raids or pins the blame on the alfposter, sarais, some random youtuber I never heard of, Mark, Term, you name it
>now even wojacks

at this point I really believe its just one reeeaaally dedicated shitposter

>> No.7100140

Calm down anon.

>> No.7100141

Yeah thats what happened to me too. I guess there is an actual "Alf", whoever the guy is that will just randomly make like a 3 word post that just says "Half-Life fucking sucks" or whatever. I assume that is him.

>> No.7100143

Why are you replying to yourself?

>> No.7100152

Thr DF Retro video DOES make the Saturn Metroidvania style look really fun and interesting though I don't usually like that style... It doesnt turn into a bunch of item hunting like Hexen is with switches does it?

>> No.7100162
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>want to watch mtpain27
>havent beaten the mapset he is reviewing
>dont want to get spoiled

I guess its time to strap up and finally finish Goind Down and JCPC

>> No.7100170
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Opinions on Prodoomer? It looks pretty awesome, the bestiary alone is massive.

>> No.7100174

Bloated. I don't know if it still has the obnoxious gears of war cog overlay when you're injured but that was a dumb design choice.
If you want to play a big dumb WAD with new monsters and weapons, play the Edge of Time instead, it's a fucking sensory overload.

>> No.7100178

Did the schizo fuck off?

>> No.7100195

i have already exclamed to you

>> No.7100203
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So /doom/, what do you think is the most underrated shooter of the 90s? My vote goes to Cyclones, released by Raven Software in 1994 and one of the first FPS to have true mouse controlled aiming.

What's yours?

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>> No.7100208

Well I kind of dig the skills/RPG system I see in Prodoomer

>> No.7100212

i liked this game a lot but now that it got a bunch of attention from some faggot youtube i've had to put up with so many mouthbreathing retards who never gave a fuck about the game until someone told them to. it's really fucking annoying.
cool game, bizarre and shitty level design, great weapons, gay "one missile weapon only" limit, fun dog mode / god mode / baseball bat silliness. really "videogamey" for lack of a better term but tons of fucking fun. too bad faggots and zoomers ruin it.

>> No.7100217

What YouTuber? Civvie did a video on it 3 years ago.

>> No.7100223
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>t. El Oscuro

>> No.7100224

I have Powerslave EX (incl. win10 mousefix) and a recent release of PCExhumed in here if you don't want to spend money on GOG/wait for Nightdive re-release: https://mega.nz/folder/3t8nzSIS#947kyMN6Z80f8HS7q2XlqA

>> No.7100242

there is one part where she gets the baton where she mentions something like "nothing a good beating cant solve" that fortunately the swj didnt pick up on lol

>> No.7100243
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Based as fuck, thank you anon.

Did Powerslave have multiplayer? I'd be interested in seeing what the player sprite looks like, as I like the design of the guy on the cover.

>> No.7100246

Sweet, I hope they'll bring both the PC version and console versions back, and make them available on both PC and console.

>> No.7100248

Poke646 is fun enough

>> No.7100249

Why would she talk like a fucking robot? You sound like you want her to be Judge Dredd

>> No.7100253

At this point its only the Build version that is coming to PC and consoles but we can dream

>> No.7100256
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it can't be.....

>> No.7100260

Why isn't this nigger banned yet?

>> No.7100261

>Letting other people ruin video games for you
Sperg alert

>> No.7100269

Nah I didn't mean it that way. She can add some pizazz and personality the way the VA can, but just more cop stuff. It's not like the VA is dead either. 3D Realms oughta get on it.

>> No.7100273

Long haired is pretty nice. Wouldn't mind.

>> No.7100276

You sound like an autistic faggot if you seriously let completely inane things like that ruin a game for you.

>> No.7100280
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Are those hands from Outlaws? For some reason the hand sprites in that creep me out, they look fucking weird. Kind of ruins what otherwise looks like a cool game

>> No.7100281


>> No.7100283

It's a start. Maybe they can do the Saturn/Playstation version as a free DLC or something.

>> No.7100284

Delete this

>> No.7100287

La Creatura Amerimutt wad when?

>> No.7100290

>Saturn/Playstation version as a free DLC or something.
If they did, I am sure it wouldn't be free. But I am afraid there is some kind of rights or licensing issues that will prevent the original console version from ever being rereleased

>> No.7100293
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When you make it, my good Oscurido.

>> No.7100316

>alll this seethe over a 22 year old game

>> No.7100328
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A challenge to expand your horizons:

Go here:
This wiki has almost 500 articles on different 90s shooters, many very obscure.

If you get something that isn't a game, try again

See if there is any way to easily play it in 2020, give it a try and report back. If its one you have already played, then give your opinions on it.

>> No.7100331

at least its not Smash Bros. Melee

>> No.7100336

It did. You can also turn on chasecam to see your guy (in both DOS and sourceports).

>> No.7100387
File: 581 KB, 1395x2201, PC Computer - Exhumed Powerslave - Player.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]

Here is the player sprites... It does look like the character on the cover but it looks like a digitized actor opposed to hand drawn which I assume the rest of the game is which seems a little jarring. He has alot of different animations/sprites though

>> No.7100396

The enemies are digitized clay models like Doom.

>> No.7100410 [DELETED] 

This kills the anti HL1 schizo.

>> No.7100413
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Was there ever a sprite based FPS that actually showed the player holding different weapons when they switched like some modern Doom mods? It seems like most just had a non-distinct weapon it used for everything.

>> No.7100418

The guy stopped posting two hours ago

>> No.7100421

Yeah, but I'm Russian and I have hacked this poll.

>> No.7100429

Oh, neat. Wonder if there are any behind the scenes photos of those models like there is Doom. Becoming interested in this game despite being aware of it for years.

>> No.7100436
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>> No.7100445

doom mods where you play as a girl
i know of so many already but i need more

>> No.7100450
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Witchhaven II: Beased or Cronge?

>> No.7100451

>Doomguy holds a rifle, no such rifle in the game
>Dook holds a rifle, no such rifle in the game
>Caleb is armed with dual revolvers, no such guns in the game
>Lo Wang is actually the closest to what he actually has, but still no cigar
>Ranger has a WH40K plasma gun

>> No.7100452 [DELETED] 

Gay, why dont you just chop your dick off too tranny?

>> No.7100456
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>>Caleb is armed with dual revolvers, no such guns in the game
They're his shotguns.

>> No.7100458

Name some. I'm a bit curious now that you mention it.

>> No.7100459

Cringe because of awful controls that are hard to modify.

>> No.7100465

Somehow even worse than the first game.

>> No.7100467

Demonsteele, Lt. Typhon, WW-Diaz, The Space Pirate whenever the fuck that comes out. I know there's more but I can't recall them.

>> No.7100474

doom radys class, demonsteele, highway acceleroid booster, lt. typhon, rebel rumble, la tailor girl
that's all i can think of off the top of my head

>> No.7100478

Nun With A Gun

>> No.7100481


>> No.7100485

There was a jump map wad made by a regular here, wasn't there? I could swear the player character was female in that.

>> No.7100489


>> No.7100523
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In ROTT the player characters hold a pistol in one hand and a weird laser rifle looking thing in the other. They shoot with the pistol for bullet weapons (even though you probably are actually using dual pistols or the MP40) and shoot with the raygun thing for the missle weapons.

Another thing I always wondered, does BJ actually have a player sprite in Wolf3D? I know there was no multiplayer on that.

>> No.7100537
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Mmm, robot coffee.

>> No.7100547

That Metroid mod by Terminus.

>> No.7100552
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He has level end sprite.

>> No.7100559

>weird laser rifle looking thing
I think that's supposed to be a rocket launcher.

>> No.7100590 [DELETED] 

>He still mad

>> No.7100624
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Yeah that is what it is supposed to be but it doesn't really look like it. You can actually see Lorelei (dark headed lady) holding that weapon on the intro cinematic.

>> No.7100637
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BJ didn't have actual player sprites but people have made then since. This is probably pretty close to what he would've look like if Wolfenstein did have multiplayer

>> No.7100669

Any of you lads ever played the Doom board game? Is it any good?


>> No.7100676
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Ugh I got Alien Cabal

I've played it before, years and years ago and its shit. This shit came out in 1997 ffs

>> No.7100694

The inconsistency of difficulty is actually what I hate most about Scythe 1. The small size to the maps helps with blasting through them at least, but the early maps are pathetically easy while the last maps get stupid fucking difficult by comparison. Difficulty scaling is indeed a good thing, but going from babby's first WAD to "I hope you're savescumming and not pistol starting" makes for really shitty progression.

The later levels in Scythe 2 can also be pretty bullshit, but nowhere near as much of a difference from the earlier levels. Its a much more acceptable shift in difficulty.

>> No.7100762

Should I read the DOOM novels? Or will weird inconsistencies with the games irritate my autism?

>> No.7100774
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Looks neat but I wish it used the classic Doom art, aesthetics and monsters instead of Doom 3s

>> No.7100790

> Greetings, everyone. Welcome to my 100% play through of Rise of the Triad on crezzy man difficulty.

>> No.7100875

But they're so fucking tiny!

>> No.7100879

I'd like to see someone like Decino or Dwars do that on the Extreme ROTT expansion

>> No.7100890

damn other people like the thing i like? awful, hate those guys

>> No.7100920

ITs a sawed off double barrel, they're not exactly as small as a pistol but they're a lot shorter than a longarm. Still find it odd they went with two when akimbo is a powerup and not the standard, maybe it goes back to the theory that akimbo was supposed to be an inventory item instead of a raw powerup?

>> No.7100923
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How dare they?

>> No.7100927

>Play the PC version
Some day. Or rather, I'll give it an actually attempt some day. I played like 30 minutes of the PC version back in 1995.

>> No.7100961

They really went all out on that advertisement lol

>> No.7100964

He sent the gnome to space.

>> No.7100971

The deleted replies shows that HLchads won.

>> No.7101024

I remember someone asked about decino's opinion on ROTT during his Brutal Doom stream and he said he didn't like it because he thinks it didn't age well. I don't see him ever playing it on his channel.

>> No.7101045

Some of the other people's replies got deleted too apparently

>> No.7101054

>didn't age well
Ah, the #1 fall back criticism of brainlets for something they don't like. Shame Decino used it.

>> No.7101064
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Speaking of RoTT, if anyone is interested I stumbled on this MASSIVE Rise of the Triad 20th Anniversary article written by Joe Siegler, one of the people who worked on the game:

Lots of behind the scenes stuff and anecdotes about its development. Good stuff and very interesting. Also has a pic of the dev team as the crew from Star Trek: TNG.

>> No.7101070
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All this time I thought Duke was pictured holding the RPG, but I guess you're right, it's something else. Almost like a silvery shotgun, but his is black of course.

>> No.7101081
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There is also this gun he is holding in the imtermission screen. I don't know if that was supposed to be the same one he has on his player sprite or not.

I assume the reason it was done like this is because they didn't have a way to swap out part of the sprite on the fly so they would've had to have a whole new character sprite for each weapon held, plus the rotations/animations etc.

>> No.7101083
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I feel that Hell Knights should have had a head swap to compliment their palette swap
Would have helped make them feel a little more different from the Barons

>> No.7101094

I assume that's part of the reason Hell Knights in all future Doom games besides 64 look completely different while Barons still largely look the same.

>> No.7101097
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Yes, it's probably my biggest regret about Doom and Douk. The character sprite not reflecting the weapon held. But I mean, I get it. When you consider the era, this is a lot of data, and very little to gain by using unique sprites when most people are probably just playing the campaign solo.

>> No.7101107

Baron and Hell Knights always felt like a pretty cheap swap. Some more variance in their attack would have been nice too.

>> No.7101113

Well besides the saved time and storage space, they didnt even have access to enough memory to load that many unique sprites.

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Right and when playing Deathmatch they aren't exactly going to be taking time to admire the other players sprite before taking a rocket to the face. It is a shame though. I know some modern Doom mods add weapon specific sprites, I wonder if there are any similar ones for Duke, Blood or Shadow Warrior?

Another thing could be to actually add the weapon that the sprites show. I always wished the pistol was changed to that rifle that Doomguy and the zombie grunts are holding. I think Brutal Doom[/sprite] adds it. It could behave exactly the same, I just want that gun to be in the game.

>> No.7101124

Hell Knights are a good idea in general since they fill an obviously missing role in Doom 1
makes a lot of sense.
Its just a shame all they did was cut his health in half and make him pale.

>> No.7101127
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Right and when playing Deathmatch they aren't exactly going to be taking time to admire the other players sprite before taking a rocket to the face. It is a shame though. I know some modern Doom mods add weapon specific sprites, I wonder if there are any similar ones for Duke, Blood or Shadow Warrior?

Another thing could be to actually add the weapon that the sprites show. I always wished the pistol was changed to that rifle that Doomguy and the zombie grunts are holding. I think Brutal Doom adds it. It could behave exactly the same, I just want that gun to be in the game.

>> No.7101129

It looks vaguely like a FAMAS. Especially with that... handle? on top.

>> No.7101136

I just noticed that Duke's death sprites look really similar to Doomguy's. Don't forget to give credit to Ultimecia, anon.

>> No.7101137

Why didn’t Doom 2 even pretend to have some new boss fights? Icon of Sin is cool but it barely counts

Doom 2 could have had a pair of Mancubi to act as early game bosses, then could have introduced them as standard enemies as the game progresses (like Doom did with the Barons). Revenants or even an Archvile could have worked too

>> No.7101140

>Doom 2 could have had a pair of Mancubi to act as early game bosses
Doesn't it somewhat do that with Dead Simple?

>> No.7101142


>> No.7101165

It did. Dead Simple is absolutely a boss level. The other anon just didn't notice it since there's no episodes.

>> No.7101207

>he actually spend hours fuming because of the OP.
kek never fails

>> No.7101213


Im pretty sure most people agree that the icon is lame as fuck

>> No.7101237

That's the firebomb she's holding

>> No.7101242

It's kind of funny how they made him equally as lame in the Doom remake. Worst thing about Doom was the "boss encounters" by far, I guess that's why people enjoy slaughter maps.

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>> No.7101253

>Doom remake
Doom doesn't have a remake.

>> No.7101276
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Are hell knights and barons fuzzy? Or is that only on their legs?

>> No.7101280

Naw dude, they wear brown pants.

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>> No.7101286

Last thoughts about the birthday boy?

>> No.7101287

HL1's crowbar is a pretty okay melee weapon, being able to throw it in Sven is cool, but losing it sucks.

>> No.7101291


Its a good fun game

>> No.7101310

Some other guy said something interesting in this thread or another, that Half-Life occupies this space of classic and contemporary because shooters since it have nary evolved. Some miscellaneous thoughts:
>Ultimately HL1's singleplayer maps and modding scene aren't that interesting to me because HL1's enemy variety doesn't allow for interesting gameplay among tens of thousands of maps like Doom, or the couple thousand of Quake...
>...but on the flipside, Half-Life's top singleplayer mods are as good as they're purported. HL1 doesn't have an Arcane Dimensions, but it has Afraid of Monsters, Paranoia, Heart Of Evil, Point Of View, etc.
>Multiplayer mods were a golden age of golden ages. Fucking amazing years those were.

>> No.7101312

Probably because it would mean having to do an all new player sprite set for every single weapon in the game, which back in times where games were still distributed on floppies, wasn't a great alternative.
In Quake's case, I assume they wouldn't want to go through the effort of having to pair up a special player character model of each gun with the player's model (and with how fast the multiplayer got, it made little difference). Perhaps it using vertex animation in place of skeletal animation made this more difficult? I only speculate.

Looking at his physical model, they look double barreled, but man they're so tiny, like little itty bitty .410 Bore or 28 Gauge shotguns, as opposed to the big bad shotguns you actually use in the game.


>> No.7101324

Oh man, I remember someone showing this game off here like he was really impressed by it, and we all thought it was really lame.

>> No.7101329

Damn, I was doing really good on Map 5 of Plutonia for my first time, but that final room with the Arch Viles and Chaingunners were too much after I ran out health pick-ups I could find.

>> No.7101335

Don't expect them to be anything fantastic, and know they'll diverge from the canon, for what that matters. It's the most Doom in the first one, there's some in the second one, but clearly they run out of Doom to write about.

>> No.7101358

Agreed, that level is definitely a boss fight, always felt that way

>> No.7101359

That's what the player sprites must be holding as well. They look hella tiny to be launching missiles is all I'm sayin. It look sci-fi raygun-ish to me.

>> No.7101360

Well its city looks alot more like one than Downtown in Doom II thats for sure. But for 1997 it had no excuse not to

>> No.7101362

Gay as fuck

>> No.7101365

>that Half-Life occupies this space of classic and contemporary because shooters since it have nary evolved.
That's utter nonsense. Games became Halo clones for ages after HL. 2 gun limit, regenerating health, dedicated grenade buttons... this is what shooters were for a good decade and a half. Though perhaps your statement is still true if you view that as more of a "devolution."

>> No.7101369
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Wolfenstein 3D is fucking based and fun

>> No.7101370
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Sweet jesus that booty.

>> No.7101375

I don't see anything.

>> No.7101376

The text crawl after the level is what really solidifies it imo. All the end levels in Doom 1 with bosses had it, and so does DS.

>> No.7101380

>2 gun limit, regenerating health, dedicated grenade buttons
None of which Half-Life did, you sad, sad, little boy.

>> No.7101381

I love the sound design. All the sounds have become completely iconic these days. People love making videos of those fun sounds. Not many games can claim the sound of whacking a crowbar against random objects as memorable.

>> No.7101382

Doesn't pain me to say you you have terrible taste.

>> No.7101384

She flat.

>> No.7101386

Do you need reading spectacles?
>Shooters since it have nary evolved.
I'd consider that an evolution, my friend. Games are not Half-Life clones to this day because they were Halo clones for the majority of the time between then and now.

>> No.7101390

You can kinda see an outward outline, but that image really doesn't give us a very good idea of what her ass is like.

>> No.7101391

That's fair. I gotta say I sort of forget about Halo and CoD a lot. Through that lens, Halo definitely had influence, and I'd say Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare's story mode has far more in common with Halo: Combat Evolved than Half-Life. I stand corrected.

>> No.7101394

>I sort of forget about Halo and CoD a lot.
I envy you. Well, it wasn't all bad. But I do not like the 2 gun era of shooters.

>> No.7101398

That booty fucking phlat. Sorry nigga but if you're going to make a coomer mod you better make that shit phat. No reason to skimp these days.

>> No.7101427

Size isn't as important as shape IMO, but you're right in that image doesn't sell that ass at all.

>> No.7101429

No good shape either, flat ass syndrome, no curvature there.

>> No.7101443

They didn't use shadows to accentuate it properly. If it was casting a shadow it would be more impressive.

>> No.7101514

I think it's much better than the first but it's still very flawed

>> No.7101518

Complaining about non visible accurate weapon on the sprites is something people do after the fact, not something that was ever brought up at the time.

>> No.7101537
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Aetherius (was known as DV-DS)

>> No.7101543
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It's basically a generic looking modern (at the time) military weapon. Slax (who passed away recently), once made a sprite which looks a fair bit like it could be the gun held by the player/zombie sprite.

>> No.7101545

Oh dear christ not this fucking nightmare

>> No.7101550
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If I ever fucking do anything with the damn mod aside from retexture vanilla Doom.

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He based its appearance on this gun (Algimec, an obscure 9mm carbine which flopped commercially after failing to get any interest by Italian police), probably because it had cool retro futuristic looks which *sort of* line up with the generic rifle in Doom.
Think of it a bit like Aliens, where the guns used were actually just old WW2 era M1A1 Tommyguns shooting blanks (and with a bunch of stuff bolted on), but in canon of the movie they were futuristic pulse rifles. This here is a completely unremarkable pistol caliber carbine, but it has kind of a cool look to it, so you can put it in Doom and say that it's also some sort of sci-fi assault rifle.

>> No.7101558

>literally nothing

>> No.7101560
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That's not an ass, THIS is an ass.

>> No.7101582

HUD design is my passion

>> No.7101596

They had less time to get it done than they did Doom 1 (though they had more experience and more mappers), and GT didn't want them wasting time making all new assets for monsters. All the new monsters in Doom 2 are either altered from existing sprites (chaingunner, meatball, knight, arachno), or made from monsters which weren't finished for the first game (fatso, boner, archie, icon), and thus had existing assets (and possibly even code) which were mostly done and they just needed to finish. I guess there's also the gnatzee, which they just ported over from Wolf3D.

All things considered, the new monsters are excellent and they really round out and complete the bestiary of the classic Doom games. Icon Of Sin isn't really that amazing of a bossfight, but it's at least cool and novel to look at, and it beats just ending the game on a cyberdemon or spidermind. I guess what I'm saying is that it was the thought that mattered, and I appreciate that Sandy pushed for trying to have SOMETHING to end the game on.

If it's any consolation, there's been some more novel takes on the big bastard in some megawads over the years, like with Plutonia 2, D2TWID, Bloodstain, and recently in 2048.

>> No.7101602

>beats just ending the game on a cyberdemon or spidermind.

>nervously looks a sigil

>> No.7101604

Hey, I got some love for Cybermage. Keep representing~

>> No.7101612

You should see how it plays. There's layers of autism so thick there that'll make your skin crawl.

>> No.7101650

You can only do so much with the Doom 1 set and no DeHacked magicry. Overall, the levels are good to play.

>> No.7101682

I don't think Doom 2 is well suited for duels.

>> No.7101705
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On a Rail/We've Got Hostiles
Diabolical Adrenaline Guitar/Hard Technology Rock
Scientist Slaughterhouse

>> No.7101748
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Marathon did.

>> No.7101750

What the fuck? Oddball is from Marathon? The more you know

>> No.7101775

I really wish you faggots would stop whinging over Youtuber shit every single thread and just discuss games.

>> No.7101781

>Slax died

Wait, what? How?

>> No.7101827

About a week back, and I don't know how.

>> No.7101835
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Is there any doom script that randomly changes the level in a given range (01-32) when you finish the level?
I know programming actually and this seems very easy to do but I know nothing about doom modding and c language.

>> No.7101841

The one where the rocket takes off
Drums and riffs
The assassins
The three tentacle thing that you burn to death
Ive never played a half life mod

>> No.7101842

>Ive never played a half life mod
Missing out on some gems man.

>> No.7101847

Yeah, in terms of FPS modding, Gold Source was pretty much as prolific and successful as modding Doom and Quake. People made some fantastic stuff over the years.

>> No.7101889

What the others said, Shelly is not Judge Dredd.
If a cop irl is shot at by a head on a drone, he certainly won't cite the law before shooting back.
I mean, in the US, shooting first and then talking seems to be the gold standard anyway.

>> No.7101897

Marathon guy has nice ass.

>> No.7101908

based eggplant speedrunning 2048 units

>> No.7101937

I mean, sure, Island Peril and Capstone were born off coying Doom and Wolf3d, but there were a fuckton of great games that came out in that time span and are still fun to play.
also, fuck alfags, they should be gassed, fucking niggers.

>> No.7101948

based. is he popular in here? i've been watching his videos and they're great. really high quality stuff for having such a low subscriber count.

>> No.7101981

Its a beautiful but a soulless husk of a game.

>> No.7101990

Nah m8 I wasn't looking for her to be Dredd. Just more than a woman who spouts one liners.

>> No.7102019

>all these replies claiming the police brutality schtick would be too offensive

Being offensive was a marketing scheme for lots of 90's shooters, why wouldn't it work here? Literally everything id did for example was cashing in on their bad boy reputation. Hell, remember Hatred, that mediocre top down shooter that made a gorillion dollars off it's controversy?

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In a build game? Compared to these dudes? The only stick out is Caleb and only with the way the first episode ends.

>> No.7102029

Dont bother anon you will only get more dickless apologists.

Yes, Ion Fury is boring.

>> No.7102032

link, is he playing with the weapons

>> No.7102034
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>Yes, Ion Fury is boring.

>> No.7102036

Its not a bad game really. I just dont want to replay it.

>> No.7102039

both with the weapons and without, but it doesn't really matter in this case

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>Its not a bad game really.
Now that's better

>> No.7102045

I would say its in a really shit spot. Its not worth remembering at all.

>> No.7102049

this is a cursed image

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>I would say its in a really shit spot
With all that level design, fun gameplay, and aesthetics?

>> No.7102052

Oops, there's your you >>7102045

>> No.7102058

All that sliding really cuts off a lot of fat in the behinds, huh?

>> No.7102085

I shill him from time to time but I think there are one or two other anons that dig him

>> No.7102098

> load up 'mt pain' doom reviews, because someone here mentioned it
> scythe rated badly and easier than eviternity

seriously i can not relate to people's stated difficulty levels whatsoever.

my theory is people aggressively savescum wads they like less, and this changing difficulty for them?

e.g., for me, plutonia and scythe are > 5x harder than eviternity. am i crazy?

there also seems to be some craze with saying newer wads are harder, but i often just don't see it?

>> No.7102112

Are there any Heretic wads which have you fight also Hexen monsters in Heretic?

>> No.7102117

What happened itt?

>> No.7102134

The last few maps of Scythe are some real ball-busters, but it's not that difficult in the first two episodes.

>> No.7102161

still i claim it is more difficult and will require overall more retries than eviternity

>> No.7102163

Doom 2 was disappointing.

>> No.7102225

>the reboot from 2013 draws a bunch of ideas from there, like the emphasis on magical spells, or the magazine fed crossbow with the grenade darts
I've read that the new guys at 3drealms gave Flying Wild Hog almost everything they had about old betas of Shadow Warrior to take ideas from
I'd guess that they found it useful

>> No.7102267

Let me have my minor gripe, dude.

>> No.7102268

Both are good and fun. Now you can rest your case.

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>> No.7102329

Agree, I think its the long spindlely fingers and the finger nails.

>> No.7102335

Tomorrow is UT birthday.
Hope he doesn't seethe over that game too.

>> No.7102346

The fact Unreal never got a proper sequel always makes me sad. The first game gave me such a feeling of wonder. It was a nice comfy shooter

>> No.7102352

How does Unreal run on modern hardware? I got Unreal Gold when it was free on Steam however many years ago but never got around to playing it. Does it have any source ports?

>> No.7102359

Fuck yeah its a good game

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I dont hate the sequel, it had that bimbo at least.
But yeah they could have expanded on the first game.

In fact looking at wheel of time and Undying, I am mad nobody did a melee focused Unreal 1 game. Unless you count enclave was that even unreal engine I dont remember.

>> No.7102369

Whoa neat, I see they did it by making the upper half and legs seperate sprites. Thats really cool

>> No.7102378

the thing about U2 is the speed, its slow as fuck.

>> No.7102383

I also dont like the aesthetic and while some of the lore expansion seems okay, its a bit meh.

Aida fit bimbo tits and ass however are great.

>> No.7102387

Rumor he was in bad health for awhile, had chronic health issues though no one knows what exactly, or they aren't saying.

>> No.7102393

>Unreal 2

>> No.7102404

post yfw he cried over OP pic

>> No.7102406

Theres a patch out there to fix things. I'm pretty sure the UI does not scale to good resolutions at all though. The game is outright unplayable without the patch

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I am mad nobody did a melee focused Unreal 1 game

>> No.7102448

I was going to mention it as well, but third person is not the same.

Cool level design however.

>> No.7102469

rune was always a mediocre game carried by level design

>> No.7102515

So you admit defeat?
Good to know.

>> No.7102554

i feel like doom's flaws might be a necessary evil so it has this legacy of being improved and expanded by fans

>> No.7102602

Any good Heretic mapsets with new/custom enemies?

>> No.7102607

Which wads are the best of the series DBP, Community Chest, MAYhem, Doomworld Mega Project, 32in24?

>> No.7102608

Masters of Chaos

>> No.7102737

>UIs not scaling
worst part of retro PC games. i play hl1, the best game ever made, at 800x600 just because of that.

>> No.7102791

Faithless and Call Of The Apostate.

>> No.7102794

and almost forgot The Wayfarer

>> No.7102796

No screenshot saturday?

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>> No.7102846

Because it is an obscure Build engine FPS and it is the FPS thread on /vr/. Go back to /v/, there are examples of shilling on /vr/ but it isnt one of them.

>> No.7102858

Nlack Operations was cool.

>> No.7102865
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>Jace Hall net worth: Jace Hall is an American film, television, and video game producer who has a net worth of $10 million.

Someone tell this rich motherfucker to buy the Blood IP already

>> No.7102871

Starcraft is aight and D2 is great, but your cousin is a fag for shitting on an obviously great FPS game.

>> No.7102885
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Appreciate you!

>> No.7102892
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>> No.7102927

This, I love hearing about old weird FPS even if they are shit. That's one good thing about FPS being so prolific in the 90s... There is always something new to see, I seriously doubt anyone has played every shooter ever released, or even every 2.5 sprite based shooter released.

>> No.7102931
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Been making my half of the map for a community project where two people each make half of the map. Mostly a remake of my vague recollections of Nirvana (I actually looked at Nirvana after and I got it all wrong) but also bits and pieces of other memories. No lighting yet and barely any things.

>> No.7102935

You've got real talent. Shame youre such a cooler.

>> No.7102940


>> No.7102952
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I may be a cooler, but I'm at least one of those vintage ones. I'm metal as fuck, I keep your beer cold and I even got a handy bottle opener.

>> No.7102962

is that ... a warm beverage?!?! BROS I'M...........I'M GONNA.........COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

>> No.7102964

Kek fuck off

>> No.7102965
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you're pretty good

>> No.7102981

i like it

>> No.7103013

every1 is reatarded

>> No.7103220

bj in 3d was cute, not gonna lie

>> No.7103234

>serious Sam
>Locked in a room
>40 jumping frogs appear
>Deal 8+ damage a hit
>LITERALLY can't avoid getting hit becuase Sam is slow as fuck

Closed game. Deleted. Shit. Garbage.

>> No.7103237

You know I've thought about that room, is it even possible to clear it without taking damage?

>> No.7103268

Get the tommygun.

>> No.7103282

Quake 2 is perfectly enjoyable and not being as good as the godly first installment doesn't make it anywhere close to bad.

>> No.7103310

Net worth isn't liquid capital.

>> No.7103341
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the slime
it shines

>> No.7103378

Anybody know a good place to extralegally get Duke Nukem World Tour edition? Its not in the OP, and the version on torrent sites has really poor audio quality that Ive heard was patched later.

>> No.7103398

Mr Friendly is my favourite cozy Doom mod - you don't kill anything and just roam the levels talking to demons and doing little sidequests for them.

>> No.7103416

Would make sense. I just wonder what the fuck happened with Shadow Warrior 2, why they turned it into a fucking looter shooter without level design, shat on the pieces of story that the reboot actually did decently, and also why they made the new support character an annoying nagging bitch as "Lo Wang's conscience", when Lo Wang has at most been depicted as an amoral and cruel anti-hero (hence the support character in the previous game actually fitting him).

>> No.7103423

i miss hoji

>> No.7103426

Audio wasn't patched later. The switch version that came out 3 year later had SLIGHTLY better audio but still not great. Everything else is still shit.

>> No.7103428

I love Final Doomer too, but I had to restart level three of Ancient Aliens because I felt so icky after pistol'ing all the Arachnotrons at the start.

>> No.7103449

Wow. Kind of amazing that they managed to make the sound quality worse than the original DOS version where the samples are mostly less than 11025 khz.

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Different dude here. Ion Fury is pretty fun but my major problem with it is that the detailed levels are almost too big so that secret hunting becomes a chore and finding keys can be a real pain in the ass sometimes. I searched each level high and low and found maybe a quarter of the secrets in the game, I can get behind well-hidden secrets but these became too obscure. That being said the gunplay absolutely kicks ass, the starting pistol and the crossbow are my absolute favourites
>Mfw shooting fully-charged crossbow alts into an area full of enemies

>> No.7103594

love this effect, droplets has it for the blood and it looks great crusted up with vanilla essence + dark doom.

>> No.7103597
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Sneak peek of the viewmodel of placeholder gun, taken from the wrongest angle.

>> No.7103620

Reminds me of that one shotgun from Fallout 3 for some reason

>> No.7103628

Your UV looks fucked

>> No.7103632

Eat my ass Jace just fucking buy it

>> No.7103658

He's probably waiting for Atari to drop fucking dead first. How that hasn't happened yet is beyond me.

>> No.7103673

The only reason why Atari is still afloat is because they're wearing the skin of a recognizable brand and most people don't know that the original Atari has been long dead.

>> No.7103682

New thread

>> No.7103736

We won HLbros.

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