THE SHOOTER'S MANSE

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THE SHOOTER'S MANSE Anonymous Wed Nov 18 07:58:57 2020 No.7092495 [Reply] [Original]

DOOM THREAD / 90s FPS THREAD - Last thread >>7088015

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE/HERETIC/HEXEN/ETC
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other 90s FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Thief, Deus Ex)
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz
-Album of infographics with setup information and user-made content recommendations

Same thing, but in video format:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ietb4JwaaXA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGj4gXyCzg0

IWADs and more (>6 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Classic Quake Trilogy pastebin (Updated 2020): https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhU
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Doom, Quake, Douk, Blood, and more)
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA
More /vr/ shooters
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ppJLNvQEPfP4FsOCQBak1TMvPUIswCac
Doom Shovelware
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Xy-YDWytlEa2CS9rit-PUgcieh4MrGzR
FTP archive for old stuff Fileplanet
https://www.quaddicted.com/files/mirrors/ftp.planetquake.com/

Doom RPG series
https://mega.nz/#!Y7AjEawA!Ta2RQuOC235v0wQoLtVR7HJoN7bsiawkujSlq8A1Da4

== INFO/LINKS ==

OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/yzwgaLp7

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
https://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 07:59:16 2020 No.7092496
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=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
500ml of /vr/
BETA: https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/7041037/#7043379
https://discord.gg/F968y8Wj4x

=== NEWS ===
[11-15]New progs_dump id1 styled map released:
https://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61976

[11-14] LA Tailor Girl updated:
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=58343&p=1173135#p1173135

[11-10] Serious Sam Collection coming to Switch November 17
https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/serious-sam-collection-switch/

[11-7] Judge Doomer updates his alpha:
>>7059803 (Cross-thread) (Cross-thread)

[11-7] 2048 units of /vr/ mappers start Temporal Tantrum project:
>>7059720 (Cross-thread) (Cross-thread)

[11-6] Guncaster 3.777 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=37066&p=1172380#p1172380

[11-4] Faithless (Heretic megawad) - beta released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/117375/

[11-4] Wadsmoosh 1.3 released (can grab intersmission screens from Unity ports)
https://jp.itch.io/wadsmoosh/devlog/192878/wadsmoosh-1

[11-2] 2048 unit of /vr/ is out on idgames (clean / with guns / only guns)
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/2048vr_v1.4
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/2048vr_v1.4g
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/combos/2048guns

[11-2]DBP 29 - Morbid Autumn Released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/117873/

[11-2]Anons creates unused texture resource for Quake games, also added fixed .fgds for Trenchbroom regarding Quake and Quoth.
https://www.quaddicted.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=4211

[10-31]500ML /vr/ Halloween Beta Released! >>7043379 (Dead) (Dead) (Cross-thread)
https://archive.org/details/500ml-vr-halloween-beta

[10-31]GZdoom 4.5 has been released(x64 only)
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=70459

[10-30]Kojima's PT remade in gzdoom.
https://batandy.itch.io/gz-pt

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://pastebin.com/PZDkqABT

TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 08:03:31 2020 No.7092506 Suck it down!

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 08:04:53 2020 No.7092507

This one came out 3 days ago,
https://www.moddb.com/mods/doom-free-roam-pack/news/doom-2-open-world-maps
Doom Free Roam pack, turns Doom 1 and 2 into a single istance open world game apparently, has anyone tried it? Had no idea that GzDoom would support such a thing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 08:05:49 2020 No.7092509 >>7092507 ...what? I guess I'll have to check this out when I get up

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 08:09:35 2020 No.7092512 >>7092496 >>7092507 Oh right might as well reply to the news post about it then. >*could support such a thing Speaking of Doom I can't believe that I deleted my doom folder, I had some good WADs there and I will never find them again, welp.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 08:16:17 2020 No.7092517 >>7092507 Could be fun to dick around in multiplayer

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 08:16:21 2020 No.7092519 Sunlust D2ALL UV-MAX was finally accomplished. The absolute madman.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 08:18:09 2020 No.7092521

>>7092507
There's really quite a lot that you can do with GzDoom if you put in the effort (and if you're well versed in ZScript). I haven't looked into what this is at all, but this isn't a difficult thing to do if you applied a persistent hub system to Doom and Doom 2's levels (like with Strife and Hexen), and then altered them a little bit to work with them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 08:18:18 2020 No.7092523 What's the ETA on 500 ml of /vr?

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 08:20:05 2020 No.7092525

>>7092507
GZDoom is a very powerful engine that has already had full-fledged games made on it, and many mods which may as well be their own games. The flak GZDoom gets is in regards to pure experiences of Doom, updates breaking old mods and maps, and performance issues on larger maps.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 08:26:07 2020 No.7092535

>>7092525
>The flak GZDoom gets is in regards to pure experiences of Doom
You can configure it to be close enough to matter, there'll be a couple of small things which will be off, but overall I think it's perfectly good to use it as a base for building upon (what's pretty much) Doom's base gameplay, if you want to do that.

>updates breaking old mods and maps
That does happen, but I can't think of a lot of examples of those. I think Pirate Doom was broken for a little while? I remember a lot of people were pissed about that because Pirate Doom rules.

>and performance issues on larger maps
True.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 08:28:58 2020 No.7092536 >>7092525 Well I know about Total Chaos but that one seemed to separate each section with a small loading so I thought maybe Gzdoom was not build for big spaces.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 08:43:28 2020 No.7092557

>>7092535
Don't mistake me, I use GZDoom all the time. Really, the only reason anyone ought to use anything else is purity for the sake of it, or recording demos. I played Thy Flesh Consumed on Chocolate Doom with pistol start, and that's my badge of honor to let me do whatever the fuck I want. Anyone casually playing Doom will be fine with GZDoom.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 08:46:04 2020 No.7092560 Levelord allegedly made and released 4 Doom levels before he worked on Blood and Duke Nukem 3D. Does anyone know which levels those are? Google doesn't help. According to an interview he was already using that nickname.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 08:49:01 2020 No.7092565 >>7092560 They would be a wad made of several levels apparently

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 08:55:30 2020 No.7092574 i forgive the faggot op for pushing a late at night thread, but this weekend will still be the HL thread. also could someone find RTCW and UT meme pics for next week since RTCW is november 20 and UT is November 22?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 08:57:55 2020 No.7092580 Has anybody ever made a Super Noah's Ark 3D wad?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 09:06:29 2020 No.7092596 Madlad did it. Doom 2 - 43:55 on Nightmare - all secrets, including the bugged secret on map15 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3V76cS9Huo Holy shit how can you be that dedicated?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 09:09:07 2020 No.7092601 >>7092596 >nightmare 100% secret run >even goes for the bugged secrets, even though you don't need to for the purpose of scoring He keeps doing it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 09:13:39 2020 No.7092608 >>7092560 graydoom

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 09:20:17 2020 No.7092613 Speaking of ZDoom, not many people are aware that recent versions of LZDoom (stripped down, less resource intensive GZDoom) now have the option to enable Doom's PRNG tables. Though the jury's out on how exactly this affects pwads.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 09:22:31 2020 No.7092615 >>7092574 also i was looking here How a "do you want to play some RTCW" would work along with wolf 3d? i even went to check HL but there isnt a full fledged guide for it

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 09:32:44 2020 No.7092621 >>7092608 thanks!

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 09:49:26 2020 No.7092642 >>7091381 >I think he's talking about the mental defectives obsessing over HL and shitting the thread up for it. That was it yeah.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 09:53:01 2020 No.7092647 >>7092523 This. I want that Quake project to finally start.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 10:15:05 2020 No.7092689 >>7092519 Link?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 10:15:10 2020 No.7092691 >>7092560 By the way, was he as popular in US as in Russia? Russian gaming journos kept bringing him up all the time because wow real American dev is living in Russia haven't you guys heard.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 10:15:56 2020 No.7092693 >>7092647 Pls no I'm still learning trenchbroom

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 10:16:43 2020 No.7092695 >>7092691 I'm from Western Europe but yes, he's popular. He managed to be the name behind "Duke Nukem 3D" despite himself saying AHB is the real deal

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 10:24:27 2020 No.7092707
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>>7092596
>Map 15:
>Includes 100% secrets, unfortunately at the cost of about 2 minutes, 1 of those because the pain elemental was messing around. Lost several attempts here to the pain elemental not showing up, once he even managed to go to the outside area instead. A couple of times I've been shot into the teleporter by some respawned shotgunner.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 10:26:48 2020 No.7092713 >>7092695 In fairness, Blum is ridiculously fucking good at making Duke maps.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 10:30:30 2020 No.7092717 >>7092707 Faster

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 10:34:31 2020 No.7092724 File: 44 KB, 300x300, painjog2.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7092717

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 10:35:27 2020 No.7092725 File: 81 KB, 510x510, 1586529702460.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 11:18:19 2020 No.7092815 >>7092725 There is an enemy in Risk of Rain 2, got a machine gun and gives me gunner's flashbacks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 11:43:24 2020 No.7092892 File: 142 KB, 573x727, Cpm_WpkUsAAbP-a(1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Take the ROTTpill, lads!

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 11:49:36 2020 No.7092909 >>7092892 I don't know what it is, but I just don't like playing triad: The graphics aren't personally appealing to me and map layouts feel like the devs tried to awkwardly cram a platformer from the earlier era into a 3D play space directly.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 12:15:58 2020 No.7092972 >>7092560 Graydoom, and it's shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 12:26:09 2020 No.7092986 File: 131 KB, 1280x720, maxresdefault (1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] EAT HIS ASS.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 12:44:02 2020 No.7093025 File: 79 KB, 900x1000, 1588661641869.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7092986

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 12:45:12 2020 No.7093028 >>7093025 What the hell is that render from anyways

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 12:50:32 2020 No.7093040 >>7093025 How long has it been since Doomguy felt the touch of a woman? lol

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 13:10:30 2020 No.7093090

>Playing through Ancient Aliens
>Feeling guilty about not pistol starting
I'm considering starting again and trying for a pistol start run instead. It feels silly losing all your weapons every time you go to a new area but at the same time I can't help but feel I'm breaking the maps a little by bringing over guns that weren't intended for the start of the map.
What the hell have you people done to me?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 13:15:10 2020 No.7093102 >>7093090 Just play saveless, pistol start any map that manages to kill you on continuous out of respect.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 13:19:56 2020 No.7093109 >>7092909 It's ok, ROTT is for CHADs only.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 13:20:31 2020 No.7093115 >>7093040 Real question, has he ever felt the touch of a woman?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 13:28:02 2020 No.7093130 Do you faggots believe this? >>7093119

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 13:31:44 2020 No.7093139 Man it's fun fucking around, while mapping for half life.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 13:33:45 2020 No.7093141 >>7093130 None of those are bad games on their own, it's not their fault everyone decided to make a template out of them and turn the FPS genre into homogeneous mush for years.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 13:34:13 2020 No.7093143 File: 131 KB, 248x274, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7093139 Of course i forget to do screenshots, when i needed it the most.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 13:35:12 2020 No.7093145 >>7093130 No. FPS never died.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 13:35:46 2020 No.7093148 >>7093130 it's just a troll

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 13:40:40 2020 No.7093156 >>7092496 https://github.com/Erick194/DOOM64-RE The DOOM 64 source code reverse engineering for the real N64 hardware finally released by GEC.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 13:49:48 2020 No.7093178

>ignore and report alf and his tranny discord squad posts and threads
also on the tech part, went on to test marty's Raytracing on Q1, and it doesnt work

The gun mesh takes priority over the entire screen, while in Q2 and Q3A this doesnt happen, possibly due to how the 1st person camera works

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 13:51:46 2020 No.7093183
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>>7092909
I'm not a fan of how "boxlike" every level is. With all the other cool stuff happening in this game, it was a bummer seeing how limited the level design had to be.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 13:56:33 2020 No.7093204 >>7093130 >Goldeneye lul. The only FPS games to copy Goldeneye were Perfect Dark and Timesplitters. The closest any other game ever got to copying it would be Hitman, and even then thats a stretch.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 14:04:11 2020 No.7093221 >>7093130 Yes. Though the golden age of FPS truly died with the advent of 3D/end of the sprite era

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 14:06:33 2020 No.7093227 >>7093221 Your loss then

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 14:07:02 2020 No.7093230

>>7093183
That is a downside but all the flying GADs, jump pads sending both you and
enemies up to 5 stories high to have gunfights in mid air, the ludicrous gibs and its overwhelming amount of SOUL make up for it.

There is nothing more based than blowing a guard to gibs while he is in midair from a jump pad with a heat seeker.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 14:08:04 2020 No.7093232 >>7093227 No, my gain. Your loss by suffering through shit games.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 14:09:44 2020 No.7093238 >>7093232 Muh doom clones Everytime. Get better taste please.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 14:10:26 2020 No.7093241 >>7093230 One thing I miss about mapping in Boom format rather than ZDoom - no way to make jump pads.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 14:11:26 2020 No.7093243

>>7093115
I'm sure he had fucked before shipping out and ending up on Phobos. But its probably been since before the first "DOOM incident" that he actually got laid because according to the Doom 64 manual he was severely emotionally fucked up after coming back from Hell

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 14:13:04 2020 No.7093249 File: 2.93 MB, 320x180, rott.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7093230 >That is a downside Yeah, that and the limited weaponset is a bummer. LOVE the gibs and music, though. I enjoy going back to it and Wolf 3D every once in awhile.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 14:14:05 2020 No.7093251 >>7093183 same, same goes for wolf3d, boxy maze levels i don't miss at all

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 14:15:31 2020 No.7093256 Base Ganymede doesn't fuck around, but I am liking the challenge so far.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 14:17:57 2020 No.7093264 >>7093249 Limited bullet weapons kind of sucks but there are still alot of missle type weapons. I love that MP40 though, feels good to just spray and unload on enemies because ammo is infinite.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 14:24:32 2020 No.7093280 >Pistol start for the first time on Doom II >get filtered by 04 I haven't felt this bad at video games in a while

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 14:26:00 2020 No.7093284 >>7093280 what difficulty? are you using infighting to save ammo?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 14:26:15 2020 No.7093285 File: 2.20 MB, 640x360, Wolf3D2019719.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7093264 I really miss the chaingun in ROTT. Explosions are fun and the MP is okay but this is still my winner.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 14:29:09 2020 No.7093294 >>7093284 UV, ammo isn't a problem I'm just having trouble getting out of the starting area since there's a ton of enemies and I can't kill em all with the pistol

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 14:29:58 2020 No.7093295 >>7093280 Really? That one was pretty easy imo. It was the next one I think that gave me trouble my first time.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 14:32:09 2020 No.7093303

>>7093294
open the door, let them shoot each other, stay in starting room, open door, let them shoot each other.
shoot them one by one by the time they make it to starting area. then pick up chaingun/shotgun and snipe the shotgunners behind the up and down barrier.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 14:37:45 2020 No.7093314 File: 174 KB, 794x1250, W3D.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7093285 Yeah the Wolf3D chaingun is pretty fucking based. Love BJs evil grin and the little ominous tune it plays when you pick it up.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 14:39:04 2020 No.7093317
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>>7093285
Honestly I am OK with the MP40 taking the place of the chaingun; I just wish there was a shotgun. In the bottom middle you can see the weapons they originally had planned when it was still going to be Wolfenstein 3D Part II.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 14:41:48 2020 No.7093319

>>7092507
Whoa, I am not at home to try this right now but that is awesome - a seamless open world was Carmack's original plan for DOOM before deciding it was too difficult and going back to individual levels. It would be awesome to see what it might have been like.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 15:05:12 2020 No.7093363
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>>7093256
>Base Ganymede doesn't fuck around
You will be pleased to see where Base Ganymede ranks in difficulty compared to other megawads
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/107015-wad-progression-for-skill-improvement/
It's a Doom 1 megawad so the difficulty will be lower since there are no revenants or arch-viles etc. Base Ganymede doesn't have particularly difficult encounters, it instead achieves difficulty by giving you barely any health and wearing you down by attrition. For example, IIRC there is only one spot in the entire megawad with two medkits side-by-side and that's on E1M7. Hitscanners are a tiny minority of enemies so with skill (and/or memorization) you can dodge almost everything so it's very fair. These are some of the best-looking maps which is doubly good considering it's a vanilla-compatible Doom 1 megawad using stock textures. I like the atmosphere and the music. Something about the setting captures my imagination.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 15:05:20 2020 No.7093364 >>7093130 Why do /v/edditors pretend we hate any fps that's not doom or quake? Are you trying to fit?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 15:13:56 2020 No.7093379 What are some good mapsets for Highway Acceleroid Booster?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 15:18:51 2020 No.7093389 File: 369 KB, 2560x1440, pXGi1Pe.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7093363 >that last wad on that list What is the appeal of maps like this?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 15:24:13 2020 No.7093404 >>7093363 aha, I am actually working my way through that very thread. I'm only 3 maps into BG and I'm already liking the vibe, cool Doom 1 techbases are my jam. I love working with the bare minimum, this should be great.

Blood Anon Wed Nov 18 15:45:24 2020 No.7093476
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>>7092523
>>7092647
Sometime later this month or very early December (Around November 30th or so). Here's what I'm working on now.

You guys can start getting the Quake stuff organized now if you really want to.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 15:48:04 2020 No.7093486 File: 928 KB, 1280x1024, Screenshot_Doom_20201028_190955.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] RAWR RAWR I'M GOING TO RESPOND TO THIS IMAGE SHITPOSTING ABOUT LITERALLY WHOM?

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 16:03:55 2020 No.7093527
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>>7092496
>>7092495
World first run of Sunlust D2All-UVMax has been accomplished today. Final time was 4 hours, 23 minutes, 47 seconds.

This means doing all 32 maps of Sunlust getting all kills, all secrets, in one single go without using saves. Daerik started the grind for this 5 months ago, back in June.

>>7092689
>>7092519
VOD is here
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/807388877

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 16:17:45 2020 No.7093556 File: 248 KB, 666x888, 1602131418050.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7093476 >HUH 2: ELECTRIC HUHALOO

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 16:18:33 2020 No.7093558 >>7093204 Is it even really copying if it's the same people?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 16:22:09 2020 No.7093570 How's Marathon? It any good?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 16:22:41 2020 No.7093571 Don't you just hate it when you play some good maps and they ruin your self-image as a competent map designer.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 16:34:35 2020 No.7093608 File: 1.19 MB, 1920x1080, q2_0004.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Base 13 or Tricks and Traps on Crack

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 16:42:06 2020 No.7093630 >>7093570 Slow movement, horrible mouse control, ugly enemies, unsatisfying weapons, boring level design

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 16:43:46 2020 No.7093635 >>7093570 it is good, ignore alf and his clones. also play by yourself, and form your own opinion.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 16:45:40 2020 No.7093649 >>7093635 Dude shut up with the conspiracy theories. I dont know who alf is or what he has to do with marathon, i just know it's a very unfun game and it's a better use of time to just play Doom mods or Build games.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 16:48:36 2020 No.7093665 >>7093649 >dude im not alf >repeats the same repeated shit as him about a good game series Shouldn't you be at /pol/ wit your friends doing cope and conseed posting? because as far as i know, you are ban evading.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 16:50:19 2020 No.7093672

>>7093256
>>7093363
Started this few days ago. Very enjoyable wad. There is always something interesting in challenging doom 1 wads, because you have to be very creative to create the challenge without doom 2 monsters. After bg, i'm gonna delve into no end sight, which has been praised as very challenging and great doom 1 wad.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 16:51:25 2020 No.7093678 File: 19 KB, 180x245, Auditor_basic.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7093635 >>7093649 >>7093665 Take your meds.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 16:54:19 2020 No.7093685 >>7093665 Dude, more than one person can dislike a game. Do you want this to be a hugbox where people can only discuss games positively?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 16:55:51 2020 No.7093690 >>7093251 I can forgive Wolf3D because it came out before Doom.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 16:57:52 2020 No.7093695 >>7093570 it's okay so far I did beat it once I'm currently going on a second run.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 17:01:31 2020 No.7093705 >>7093571 I got over that when I found out people liked the maps I made, that means I'm on the right track and I just need to keep improving.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 17:12:15 2020 No.7093732

>>7092560
>>7092972

My personal ranking of Levelord's Duke Nukem levels including his unreleased single player maps and World Tour maps:

>god tier
The Abyss
Sewers Below or Sewer

>good tier
Warp Factor
Flood Zone
LA Rumble

>ok tier
Raw Meat
Hotel Hell
Sewage Company or Sweeney
Shop-N-Bag
Pigsty
Red Ruckus
Tour de Nukem

>shit tier
Incubator
Spin Cycle
Bank Roll
Movie Set
Rabid Transit
Fahrenheit
XXX Stacy
Bloody Hell
Prima Arena

>unrated (because they are kinda awesome, but shit at the same time)
Lunatic Fringe
Tier Drops

He has a pretty mediocre record for a level designer. Allen Blum was certainly better.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 17:15:45 2020 No.7093742
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>>7093389
These maps add another type of challenge on top of vanilla Doom ones.
You are not fighting a set of monsters on designated locations - you are a speck of dust, about to be crushed by an enormous wave. You need to run, hide, conserve ammo, make monsters infight each other, retreat carefully and keep your distance.
I guess that's the appeal - overcoming impossible odds.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 17:17:36 2020 No.7093752 >>7093732 >god tier >sewer level I'm not trolling and not a civvie-fanboy, but is it really possible to make a good sewer level? Where is that map from? Is it from World Tour?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 17:21:00 2020 No.7093760 >>7093752 Toxic Touch from AV is a great sewer level.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 17:50:29 2020 No.7093856 >>7093364 Well I mean Halflife and Unreal are pretty gay so..

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 17:50:45 2020 No.7093857

>>7093760
It's great because it was made by the same guy who made AV's map 20
He's a master of creating maps with confined space. And he also gave Toxic Touch and Misri Halek good lightning, which is a rare thing in the history of sewer levels.

Not every sewer map has a designer like this, unfortunately

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 17:54:55 2020 No.7093868 File: 642 KB, 288x144, 1605673704767.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7093570 Marathon 2 is based. Dual wielding double barrels kicks ass. Story is cool. Gameplay is fun. I really dislike 1 though.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 17:56:53 2020 No.7093875
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>>7092507
Well it's more of a technical concept right now.
Here's what it looks like - just a field with remote areas representing individual levels - I would not call it a seamless open world.

There are some quests and NPC's, but they are experimental and scarce.
For example, you get a quest from marine in e1m1 to find another marine in e1m9 - and when you find this marine, he gives you a plasma rifle.
The idea is cool though

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 18:03:17 2020 No.7093886 File: 141 KB, 640x400, angst_1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7093221 This. It unironically lost its SOUL in the jump to 3D.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 18:03:51 2020 No.7093887 >>7093875 Looking like a GTA map. I'll watch out for updates.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 18:05:50 2020 No.7093894 >>7093363 Based Base Ganymede poster

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 18:07:05 2020 No.7093901 Do you even need to download Aleph One separately to play Marathon or do they come bundled with it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 18:08:07 2020 No.7093904 >>7092596 It's Zero Master, what do you expect?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 18:08:32 2020 No.7093906 >>7093875 Oh, that's what it's doing? Honestly that looks kind of like shit from the automap.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 18:13:25 2020 No.7093920
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>>7093875
>There are some quests and NPC's, but they are experimental and scarce.
>For example, you get a quest from marine in e1m1 to find another marine in e1m9 - and when you find this marine, he gives you a plasma rifle.
>The idea is cool though
Now THAT sounds cool. Getting Doom RPG vibes from that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 18:23:15 2020 No.7093956 >>7093476 I move there should be a wait. Blood projects are scarce enough, but a project of this size? It deserves some limelight

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 18:29:53 2020 No.7093971 >>7093868 the only downside to 2 and infinity is no music

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 18:36:09 2020 No.7093990
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http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/shadow-warrior/
>"There is a very fun game here, with aesthetic level looks at points, but when you’re having a blast shooting down demon hordes, Lo Wang will open his mouth and then you remember the context. You fight a sumo wrestler who has poison farts and just deflate. This should be a classic, but it’s very, very hard to get past the ugliness of its vastly outdated racism."

Thoughts? Does Shadow Warriors racism bother you like it does HG101 (and even Civvie for that matter)

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 18:39:01 2020 No.7093997 >>7093990 Not to the extent where I can't enjoy it. Was there anything in Duke as bad besides all the women?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 18:39:19 2020 No.7094000 >>7093990 these are the kind of people who don't like kung pow or mxc, not worth listening to their opinions.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 18:39:25 2020 No.7094001 >>7093990 No. I actually just think Lo Wang's voice is annoying to listen to.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 18:42:18 2020 No.7094004 >>7093990 It doesn't bother me in the least, it adds to the appeal and charm. Lo Wang is a badass to be admired. Infact I'd debate it even really exists, the wimp just whines over nothing in that article. hardcore gaming my ass

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 18:45:01 2020 No.7094008 >>7093990 Stop replying to this baiting faggot

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 18:45:26 2020 No.7094010 >>7093990 Lo Wang is awesome. He's also very clearly not meant to be taken seriously, he's a character like Ace Ventura.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 18:47:50 2020 No.7094017 File: 56 KB, 800x600, DANwjLdUIAEjhoC.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7094001 YOU TAKE THAT BACK YOU SON OF A BITCH. John William Galt was fucking based, god rest his rotund soul.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 18:48:25 2020 No.7094020 File: 314 KB, 648x800, sw expansion.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7093990 OH, YOU LITTLE TINY DICK!

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 18:48:52 2020 No.7094021 >>7094008 You replied homo. Discussion about stuff like this makes the threada interesting. If it was up to you the whole thread would just be mapping autism.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 18:50:05 2020 No.7094027

>>7093875
Interesting, but from the looks of it, seems like an unpolished concept, would like to see something like Strife, which by the way when I found I was quite impressed to see an early FPS attempting something like that, I can see it working for Doom 2 since is all set on Earth if I remember right, but it would still need a graphic overhaul to make it more consistent, Doom 2 was the biggest offender in term of looking nothing what it was supposed to.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 18:51:49 2020 No.7094029 >>7094021 Speaking of mapping autism, how do I put a spectre in the sector over sector with the probotector?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 18:51:57 2020 No.7094030 >>7094017 He's not dead.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 18:52:07 2020 No.7094031 >>7094021 He already has a thread up with that same article, he's just trying to derail the general into political discussion. Yes, if it was up to me this whole general would be mapping autism.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 18:52:11 2020 No.7094032 >>7093990 when it comes to his quotes I always imagine him having the time of his life while slaughtering ninjas, especially when using a tactical warhead

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 18:52:21 2020 No.7094034 File: 26 KB, 317x291, 1602555138228.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7094020 >takusan balls >su-KOOSHI penis

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 18:54:47 2020 No.7094038 >>7094021 >Mapping autism Yes please, fuck your faggot shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 18:54:53 2020 No.7094039 >>7094021 You're right, discussing race relations in the majority of contexts in 2020 totally isn't a black hole of a topic and always generates very interesting discussion. Fuck you and making me reply to you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 18:55:30 2020 No.7094041 File: 28 KB, 1536x144, partisan shitflinging.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7094021 Get fucked.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 18:55:50 2020 No.7094042 >>7094030 Someone in one of the last threads said he died recently but I guess they were mistaken. Well don't halt on the Galt

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 18:57:00 2020 No.7094045 >>7094038 You have to be the gayest motherfucker in these threads, you're the one who randomly just screams into the void "STOP REPLYING TO THEM" "STOP BEING FAGGOTS YOU GUIZE REEEE". I bet you're a slav too.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 18:58:01 2020 No.7094050 >>7094041 Seethe harder and maybe it'll happen

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 18:58:17 2020 No.7094051
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https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?random

I'm tired after work, so how about this game again?
Gonna download something myself after I post this.

>click link to get a random upload from idgames
>play it (as far as you want anyway)
>take at least one screenshot
>post a link to it here in reply afterwards
>tell us what you thought about it
>if you get a DM map, texture pack, or utility, etc, reroll

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 18:59:06 2020 No.7094052 >>7093990 Goddamn I'd love to tell this dude to shut the fuck up

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 19:00:31 2020 No.7094056 >>7093990 >(hope you like cute references to nuclear warcrimes!) He says ""Just like Hiroshima." "Just like Nagasaki."" A warcrime? Fucking retard, yeah right let's invade Japan and cause even more deaths, that's humane.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 19:00:58 2020 No.7094057 >>7094051 What happens if we roll a megawad? I just got Congestion 1024.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 19:02:22 2020 No.7094059 >>7094057 Play as far as you want. Maybe you found a megawad you really like and will eventually finish? Only one way to find out.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 19:02:27 2020 No.7094060 >>7094057 Play for as much as you want and share your thoughts based on levels you played through.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 19:03:25 2020 No.7094063 >>7094051 Fuck, yes, I'll roll. I'll need something to wind down before I finish this texture and then go to do my math studies.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 19:06:47 2020 No.7094068
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>>7094052
Well his official website is here:
https://bithedarkside.wordpress.com/

Also his description on his HG101 writer page:
>"Freelance games and anime writer, lover of indie games and old point and clicks. Bi, male, will go on forever about existentialism if given the chance."

Why the fuck does you being bi have to do with old video games? You never see people list "Straight" in bios like that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 19:08:20 2020 No.7094070 >>7094068 Because he thinks his sexuality can be a substitute for his personality?

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 19:09:52 2020 No.7094072 [DELETED]

>>7094056
The Japanese were utterly defeated. The fantasy of every Japanese citizen fighting to the death was just that, fantasy, they were starving at that point. They could've easily blockaded them until surrender. Nukes were a big dick move to assert dominance in the post war world, wasn't at all necessary to deal with the Japs.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 19:11:22 2020 No.7094075 File: 23 KB, 474x557, 1604483607717.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7094070 Sad.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 19:13:13 2020 No.7094076 >>7094034 I honestly have no idea what that line even means.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 19:13:47 2020 No.7094078 >>7093732 I hate that eCelebs have convinced retards who didn't play that Spin Cycle isn't an awesome level.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 19:18:56 2020 No.7094085
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>>7094051
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/s-u/supjosh
A really simple and straight forward 'myfirstwad' kind of level. Short, simple, and not hard, but not bad either. You gotta start out somewhere.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 19:20:20 2020 No.7094087
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>>7094051
I got Baron's Barbeque from 1995 (https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom/a-c/baron).). This level fucking sucked but showed some signs of promise. The author had the good sense to group barons and cacos together so you could make them infight and then berserk punch the remaining baron. One completely skippable cyberdemon fight gives you an invuln and a BFG which trivialize the ending. Too many doors textured as walls give this one a 1.5/5

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 19:20:56 2020 No.7094089

Say I have 3 variables, x, y, z, each with the potential of being 1-10.
Is there a better way to have a script do something if they're all the same without making 10 if/else statements?
(I want to do 10 different things, so just checking if x==y&&y==z wouldn't be sufficient)

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 19:23:32 2020 No.7094096
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>>7094051
>>7094059
>>7094060
Congestion 1024 (https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/1024))
Map 01: Water Facility
Being the first map, there isn't much to say in terms of difficulty, with only zombies, imps, and some demons to take care of in an open area. You can also immediately find a blue armor, which honestly isn't necessary, because you can also find a green armor a few seconds afterwards. Anyway, the flooded base theme is nice and the map even has one of those midtexture bridges. Nice opening.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 19:24:23 2020 No.7094101 >>7094089 I dont understand. If you want to do 10 different things depending on the number that they all equal, you'd need 10 code blocks any way you cut it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 19:28:27 2020 No.7094118 can anyone help me troubleshoot getting multiplayer up with zandorum/doomseeker? couldn't get it to work.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 19:30:24 2020 No.7094124 >>7094118 what is the issue you are having? make sure you've port forwarded 10666 and/or 10667 on your router, and that you go into the server settings box once its up and check visible on my network.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 19:30:25 2020 No.7094125 How would I go about using the Y variable with the factor of 10 with the infinite height actors and the tough actin' Tinactin on the sector zone bone?

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 19:30:27 2020 No.7094126

>>7093990
Does anyone really have trouble with casual racism in humorous contexts? Maybe it's because I grew up in a relatively low class area and went to public school, but nobody really gave a fuck. We all made fun of each other. When it got out I was jewish, do you know how many holocaust jokes were levied at me? But you just hit back; I'd call them wetbacks, or chingchongchis, or tell them to go back to their shitty samoan island. It wad all in good fun. Lo Wang makes me about as uncomfortable as a soft bed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 19:31:36 2020 No.7094129 >>7094101 I guess I was hoping there was a cleaner alternative, like a switch block, rather than if () { } else { if () { } else etc

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 19:31:54 2020 No.7094131
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>>7094096
Map 02: Garden of the Descent
A short hike up a cliffside. Wasn't sure how to progress at the start until I hit a random rock which built a staircase for me. The main threat comes from a revenant trying to kill you from above and a couple of hell knights at the peak of the cliff. Kind of awkward with the infinitely tall decorations, but it uses the limited space well.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 19:32:06 2020 No.7094134
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>>7094051
UAC's Auditorium from 1997 (levels/doom/a-c/audit.zip). "Based very loosely on the floor plan of the Singapore Press Holdings auditorium". Very loosely indeed. This level is a few paltry rectangles. The large fight in pic related was impressive but had no strategy behind hiding in the doorway (entering gets you riddled with bullets since there's no armour). This map uses E1M8's tags to unlock the exit after killing two barons. 2/5, this is the same year Requiem and HR came out but this feels like a '94 map.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 19:32:18 2020 No.7094135 >>7094126 >When it got out I was jewish That's unfortunate.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 19:34:37 2020 No.7094142 >>7094129 You can do switch in ACS. And else if ().

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 19:36:09 2020 No.7094148
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>>7094051
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom/v-z/wadofgum

wadofgum.wad

Literally dude's first wad.
Here you have a maze with flickering lights that literally has no purpose at all, a "puzzle" room where you need to pick a right switch to progress otherwise you'll get softlocked for good, secret door that's required for progressing and not marked by anything, empty rooms, this silly room with a judicial sitting where you need to get on top of that podium even though you don't know you can.

Too many gimmicks, but not bad for a first map

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 19:39:54 2020 No.7094157 >>7094148 Is that a jury box of Imps?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 19:40:41 2020 No.7094160 File: 1.01 MB, 1920x1200, Screenshot_Doom_20201119_031913.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7094157 I believe so, yeah. There was a full room of Imps too

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 19:44:53 2020 No.7094174
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>>7094051
better run trought [sic] the jungle from 2011 (levels/doom2/Ports/j-l/jungle). Apparently a speedmap, this had a nice outdoor area and some fairly detailed interiors. Very forgiving for a Plutonia themed map. None of the fights stick out to me but the balance was fine. The midi is the theme from Cannibal Holocaust which gave this level a serene feeling (if we ever do 94 protons of /vr/ I'm using this midi for sure). 3.5/5.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 19:48:54 2020 No.7094184
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>>7094051
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom/a-c/class_ep
Classic Episode, it's called. It's an E2 replacement, and a pretty nice one. I only played 2 maps, because I don't have so much time ATM, but I'll definitely come back to finish this one. Detailing and visuals are slightly plain at times, but not so plain as to feel barren or underdesigned by any means, the layouts are good and the combat encounters fun.

This would probably be a pretty good candidate for adding to the official ports.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 19:49:03 2020 No.7094186 >>7093886 Looks like shit desu.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 19:50:44 2020 No.7094192 >>7094174 I'm still up for 94 Protons Of /vr/ if you guys are interested, particularly if we're doing it in stages, as discussed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 19:55:50 2020 No.7094201 >>7094135 >Implying I'm not a shoe-in for the overlord cabal See you from up on down.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 20:13:43 2020 No.7094249 >>7093527 Based. Thought it would take longer.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 20:25:23 2020 No.7094282 >>7094160 Lol looks like they're there to hear the Baron on stage give a speech

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 20:25:58 2020 No.7094284
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>>7094131
Map 03: Dilapidation
A techbase map with a number of monster closets. You can get a plasma rifile in a secret, which helps a lot with a close quarters cacodemon/hell knight encounter. One thing I like is that you can see the same rocky textures as the last map through the cracks in the wall for a nice bit of continuity.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 20:27:24 2020 No.7094287 >>7094186 And it is. It's called Angst: Rahz's Revenge - but it still has more SOUL that any true 3D FPS, the only one that retained any SOUL at all was Quake 1 but it was long gone by the sequel

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 20:34:18 2020 No.7094303
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>>7094051
KILL OR BE KILLED from 2006: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom/j-l/killme
It's a 1994 map alright; big open rooms with hardly any opposition, 2 spots where you can get soft locked, and multiple uses of extremely slow and long elevators, and of course, haphazard texture use. Not to mention a strobe light maze, that only seems to exist to waste your time. Absolute trash.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 20:34:37 2020 No.7094304 File: 7 KB, 135x134, eternity.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7092495 Holy shit, Eternity Engine 4.01 was released last month and it flew under everyone's radar. https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/117429-eternity-engine-40100-tyrfing/

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 20:37:35 2020 No.7094318
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Are there any Doom 64 mods that make the weapons non-centered and adds reload/cocking animations for the shotguns ala Quake 1.5? Does Brutal Doom 64 add those? I can't stand the hovering centered weapons thing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 20:41:24 2020 No.7094332 >>7094304 >>7092496

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 20:43:14 2020 No.7094340
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>>7094284
Map 04: Outpost 1024
This map was excellent. Uses its space really well, even employing some of that psuedo-3d floor trickery to great effect. It starts to get pretty tough once it starts throwing a bunch mid-tier monsters at you while you have to avoid killing yourself with the rocket launcher's splash damage. Also uses a sweet midi rendition of Quad Machine from Quake 2.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 20:57:43 2020 No.7094379

>>7093990
Lmao I'm part-Chinese and I couldn't care less about the generalized Asian racism in the game. It was all played out as a dumb harmless joke, who really fucking cares that much? The most tasteless thing was probably calling a class of enemies coolies, but I'm not going to get bent out of shape over it. It's not like playing Shadow Warrior somehow supports the Asiatic Exclusion League and general hatred towards Asian people. Shadow Warrior was a shooter made in the '90's, people need to get over it and move on.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 20:59:37 2020 No.7094387
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>>7094027
Yeah, exactly.
And the concept is there - you've got 7-9 areas, and each one of them has something of value.
For example, talking about the first map, including half levels from e1 + Romero's Tech Gone Bad:

> you've got e1m1 with random marines giving you quests
> e1m2 where you find a red key, which is later used in other maps
> e1m9 where you find a marine which gives you the plasmagun
> e1m5 where you press a switch and open access to final level
> e1m6 where you find a skull key for final door

I'd love to see a hub area though.

And RPG elements
And gun-crafting
And enemy respawns
And more quests

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 21:01:34 2020 No.7094394 >>7094379 Lo Wang is a Jap not a Chicom Chink

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 21:04:12 2020 No.7094398 File: 446 KB, 1920x1200, swcr 2020-01-21 10-21-22-746.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7094379 Lo Wang's fucking awesome I'm Russian and I wish they made a build game mocking my nationality.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 21:04:27 2020 No.7094402

>>7094379
Yeah honestly thats what I thought was weird about Civvie's review. He whines about muh racism when talking about Lo Wang stupid one liners yet refers to Coolies through the whole review and never makes a peep about what is probably the only thing that some people could reasonably be offended at

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 21:05:41 2020 No.7094406 >>7094318 For 64 I do not think such a thing exists

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 21:05:47 2020 No.7094407 >>7094402 He brings that up in one of the videos.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 21:08:18 2020 No.7094413 File: 369 KB, 1920x1200, chocoDoom.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Goddamn dude, how come your eyes don't hurt? I only play Choco Doom for nostalgia and my head hurts after couple hours

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 21:08:52 2020 No.7094416 File: 495 KB, 720x533, Capture+_2020-11-18-20-07-20(1).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7094398 They did, Liquidator 3D. No but seriously it would just be squatting and drinking booze.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 21:09:32 2020 No.7094417 >>7094398 >You have been unperson'd! >Just like Stalingrad... >From Russia, with bombs! Fund it

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 21:09:55 2020 No.7094419 >>7094407 I forgot he had multiple episodes for it. I rewatched the first one the other day and that just kinda struck me as odd he didn't mention it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 21:13:41 2020 No.7094432 >>7094287 >soul meme

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 21:14:08 2020 No.7094436

>>7094394
They made lots of broad Asian generalizations while making Lo Wang Japanese.
>game with Japanese nuke references
>calls a type of enemies coolies even though coolie originally referred to Indian and Chinese immigrant workers that came to my country
Not that I find it that offensive, but yeah. I know that nobody on here really cares but it's still worth pointing out. If I was fresh off the boat I'd probably be PISSED at being compared to the Japanese, because despite all the awful shit China has done it's people still haven't forgotten what happened in Nanking.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 21:16:05 2020 No.7094439
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>>7094406
So I guess the only weapons that have it are the ones Brutal Doom adds in Brutal Doom 64? Bummer. I know in the manual art of the guns it looks like the shotgun has a lever action so I just pretend he is cocking it where I can't see it but that doesn't work for a double barrel.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 21:16:44 2020 No.7094441 >>7094394 He has a Chinese name and jokes about Nagasaki. Doesnt seem very Japanese to me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 21:17:19 2020 No.7094448 >>7094436 Yeah isn't "Lo Wang" a Chinese name also? Seems like he is sort of a mix of both, or just the comical American idea of "Orientals" which I think was the point

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 21:18:20 2020 No.7094451 >>7094441 I'm not sure it ever says specifically, he works for a Japanese company in Japan but his name is Chinese. So I'd guess an ethnic Chinese living in Japan

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 21:20:09 2020 No.7094461 >>7094451 The Shadow Warrior wiki literally says "China, Japan" as Country of Origin

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 21:24:09 2020 No.7094469

>>7094448
I'm assuming he's just an "oriental amalgamation" because the devs were a bunch of white dudes that loved old martial arts movies and neat Hong Kong flicks from the 80's. I can't really fault anybody for that, I'd rather Asian people were stereotypically depicted as ninjas over addicts in an opium den anyways hahaha

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 21:24:36 2020 No.7094470
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>>7094340
Last map for now.
Map 05: Autumn in Hell
Here we have a tricky temple map with some dickish moments. Starts you out next to a window where some shotgunners in the next room can immediately shoot you, then you have to go swimming in some nukage with some spectres and no radsuit. I died twice when the map throws an archvile at you with no cover, luckily I discovered a secret wall you could lower to get out of the room you're trapped in. With all that in mind, I still think this is a good map.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 21:28:55 2020 No.7094476 File: 96 KB, 1037x477, Doomguys.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Of the old school designs, which Doomguy do you think looks best? Classic Doomguy, Doomguy 64 or Doom from Q3A?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 21:30:14 2020 No.7094480 >>7094394 Lo Wang is like half Chinese.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 21:30:50 2020 No.7094482 >>7094480 So half Chinese and half Jap? Surely hes not a hapa

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 21:31:41 2020 No.7094483 >>7094476 Q3A>Classic>64 Just wish the ab window was covered in Q3A.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 21:32:08 2020 No.7094484 >>7094476 I'd go with classic. Q3 Doom looks cool but a little overdesigned. D64's design is just.... There.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 21:34:22 2020 No.7094492
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>>7094483
Yeah thats an issue I have with the classic Doomguy skin in Eternal. I get they are trying to make it look like the cover but it looks less like uniform that was ripped away as the original artwork intent and more like a queerish belly shirt

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 21:34:48 2020 No.7094493
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>>7094398
Affectionate parody is very much a real thing, and both Duke Nukem 3D and Shadow Warrior are examples of such. As goofy and sleazy as they get, and as much as they harp on the clichés, it's still about playing as a cool action hero who saves the world.

I wish more people understood that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 21:36:49 2020 No.7094496 File: 471 KB, 2380x1073, download (3).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7094476 Followup: of the more modern styles which do you prefer? Doom 3guy, Doom 4guy or Eternalguy?

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 21:39:22 2020 No.7094498
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>>7094476
Classic all the way, that design is iconic as fuck. I want to like Doomguy 64 but especially since it's a sprite but Q3A is pretty much just a 3D version of the classic design. 64 is cool but I don't really like the armor being black.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 21:40:44 2020 No.7094501

>>7094476
While I do appreciate the other designs nothing will beat the classic Doomguy for me, if for nothing else than years of familiarity drilling it into my brain.

To cap off my shitty part of the SW discussion too, I just wanted to add that the only people I notice getting deeply offended by the game are all white. I'm getting sick of the white liberal left, let us Asian people get offended about things that concern us. Barely any Asian people care about it? Huh, that must mean it doesn't really matter to them and that you should move on with your life. Fuck the white saviour complex.

>>7094493
It is affectionate, although a bit misguided. Either way, it's still a great game that I have fun playing and I'm not going to stop because some dumb white guys say so. I don't look for accurate cultural portrayal in a video game, ESPECIALLY a 90's Build Engine FPS ffs.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 21:44:03 2020 No.7094506
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>>7094476
I like oldschool Doomguy, as it also includes him on the covers, and as you see him on some of the intermission screens.

>>7094496
Of those three, I like Doom 3 Guy, mind he doesn't actually wear a helmet. Doom 4 Guy looks fine, and I would kind of have preferred if they kept his armor fully covering in Eternal. Oh well.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 21:46:49 2020 No.7094512

>>7094501
>just wanted to add that the only people I notice getting deeply offended by the game are all white
Not to veer too off topic but it seems to be that way with most racial outrage like that. It's white people who are cancelling others for 'cultural appropriation' or whatever. It's like they're trying to compensate for white guilt for the past by being the opposite exteme. It's gay and retarded.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 21:48:36 2020 No.7094519 >>7094496 E>3>16 Fucking hate the legs and arms in 2016 so goddamn much. They look absolutely fucking awful.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 21:48:47 2020 No.7094521

>>7094506
Well I used helmeted Doomguy to make it fit with all the other designs. I thought his actual face in Doom 3 was OK. I think that helmet is fucking hideous and so weirdly shaped its hard to tell what is what BUT I shit on the Praetor Master Chief suit so I gotta go with Doom 3 as well

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 21:51:42 2020 No.7094528

>>7094512
I totally agree with you. It's all so tiresome, lads.

Either way though, enough of my bitching. What are y'all playing right now? I got Doom 1 +2 on the Switch for dirt fucking cheap awhile ago and I'm about to run couch co-op Rekkr with my roommate. Good shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 21:55:11 2020 No.7094539 >>7094528 Make sure to turn off V-Sync on the Bethesda versions of Doom 1 and 2. Anons have said it causes considerable input lag.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 21:57:38 2020 No.7094547 >>7094539 THANK YOU! I always just thought that I was just way shittier at Doom with a controller than with mouse+kb, I will do this

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 21:58:25 2020 No.7094548

>>7094528
No idea. I've spent the last month downloading and getting all these games working and running smooth, but aside from E1 of Duke and a bit of a Doom 1/2 base, I haven't played much of them at all. You guys got any recs to playthrough? I got all the classic shit at this point set and ready to go, just need an idea on which to start with.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 21:59:00 2020 No.7094550

>>7094519
You know I could never put my finger on what I disliked so much about Doom 2016s design but I think you just said it, its the legs and arms.

I greatly prefer the classic Doomguy skin in Eternal but as another anon said in the previous thread, from a lore perspective he has been through alot of shit since Doom 1 to Eternal and basically given the powers of a demigod... It would make sense he would have upgraded new armor and weapons especially while fighting with the Night Sentinals, instead of still running around in his old marine uniform

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 22:00:47 2020 No.7094553

>>7094547
Yes, it feels weird doesn't it? Like you can't quite aim right or something? I beat Doom 1 and 2 on Ultra Violence on the old 360 ports including the No Rest For the Living bonus episode, but the first time I got on the Bethesda ports on Xbox One I fucking sucked and didn't understand why. Apparently that is what causes it.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 22:04:19 2020 No.7094554

>>7094548
Starting with the first Doom and progressing through all the major games you have by date of release wouldn't be a bad idea, if you start getting bored of the 2.5D titles then try Quake out (vanilla Q1 w/ mission packs, Quake 2 is still worth playing but I never thought the single player was as good as the first game's). There's no "wrong" way to go about playing through anything in the order you wish, but if you haven't played these games before playing in order of release might help give you a bit of context as to what the FPS market was like back in the '90's.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 22:08:27 2020 No.7094562

>>7094554
I beat Doom 1 and 2+TnT two months ago on my Xbone, before I got the PC I have now. Playing all these games was honestly the main reason I even decided to get one. Guess I'll take your advice and do Plutonia before moving on to beating Duke or ROTT next, with maybe Quake 1 somewhere there.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 22:14:49 2020 No.7094576 Only started playing Blood a month ago and I already have 20+ hours in game time. I might start playing mods like Death Wish.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 22:15:32 2020 No.7094578

>>7094562
Been playing the old Duke Nukem 3D port to Xbox 360 lately, good port and its got extras like a rewind feature and collectible concept art. Also it's not the gay Randy Pitchford version so that's a plus. This original port is still on sale on Xbox 360s marketplace for 10 bucks but only the Gearbox rerelease that is 20 is on Xbox One and I assume PS4.

Also bought Duke Nukem: The Manhattan Project and Marathon 2 on my 360 as well. Those two I can play on my Xbox One as well since they're on the marketplace and backwards compatible.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 22:24:49 2020 No.7094592

>>7094562
Oh yeah, I'd suggest tackling Blood last or when you're feeling up to a kind of challenge that you're not used to. Blood is a hard fuckin game, but a big part of the learning curve is figuring out the optimal uses of the weapons. It's the most detailed Build game I've ever played that's not Ion Fury, give er a go sometime.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 22:31:33 2020 No.7094608

>>7094578
Yeah, I really wasn't into Duke that much until now, but it was pretty damn fun to play and the guy is honestly pretty charming. Doubt I'll ever actually try out the full 3D Duke games, but it's nice to know they're options on Xbone.

>>7094592
I've heard, though I'm the enemy and weapon variety in it and Shadow Warrior don't seem that appealing to me right now. Maybe I'll change my mind once I finally get to them fully.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 22:35:17 2020 No.7094616 >>7094608 I liked Blood infinitely more than SW, personally

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 22:35:44 2020 No.7094618

>>7094416
>If you're reading this, you've probably never heard of this game before. Liquidator: 3D Action is a very obscure Russian game on the Build Engine. This game is so obscure it's like the whole game is unused.

Holy shit. It's even worse than Varingha Accident Brazillian shooter game, right?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 22:39:11 2020 No.7094624 >>7094616 I like Shadow Warrior's moment to moment gameplay better than Blood's, but Blood is very special to me. What seals the deal is the grenade launcher vs the dynamite. Keeps the action flowing 100% more than Blood.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 22:40:31 2020 No.7094631

>>7094539
>>7094547
>>7094553
It makes a *crazy* difference, it's like the game was gaslighting me.
>Am I actually THIS bad?
>Am I simply this heavily reliant on the mouse?
No, it was just VSync, the game played like normal for me after I turned it off and maxed sensitivity.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 22:42:03 2020 No.7094638
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So I took the Triadpill and I am really enjoying it. Plan to play the Extreme expansion next and then probably the 2013 remake. I know it's jank and it was made by like 5 people but I am gonna give it a shot.

Are there ANY Rise of the Triad mods or custom maps/mod community for the game? What about the Doom Rise of the Triad TC? Is it good?

Also some anons were talking about the 200 page players guide that was included with Extreme Rise of the Triad and how they couldn't find it anywhere online? I think this is it:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rise-of-the-Triad-Official-Players-Guide-1995-Apogee-Computer-Game-Guide/264921174823

Now we just need to find scans of it, lol. I would buy it myself and scan it if I had the means to scan.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 22:43:17 2020 No.7094643

>>7094501
>It is affectionate, although a bit misguided
Could you elaborate? The guys love Hong Kong and Jap shit, so they made the protagonist a mix of the two and he spouts of one-liners in an accent. Would it have been better if he spoke his native tongue?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 22:49:10 2020 No.7094658 >>7094618 Its pretty bad but goddamn dude the music. I can't stop listening to this on a loop: https://youtu.be/CeCBkVX5yto Someone should use this in a wad.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 22:50:15 2020 No.7094661 >>7094643 CHING CHONG NIPNONG NIHONGO ME CHINESE ME PLAY JOKE ME PUT PEEPEE IN YOUR COKE

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 22:50:20 2020 No.7094662

>>7094638
>Plan to play the Extreme expansion next
EROTT is actually an EXTREMELY sadistic level set, it's as if Dario & Milo Casali were the Toolbox Killers.
I think that unless you play as Thi Barrett, you literally can't beat one of the levels to progress the game further, because all the other characters are either too slow or too fast to make a particular leap, and there's a couple of cruel softlocks in it as well.

I'm not saying, "Don't play Extreme ROTT!", just that it's going to prolapse your anus on every level, and to be prepared for that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 22:51:50 2020 No.7094665 >>7094661 Yeah Lo Wang is funny.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 22:53:01 2020 No.7094673

>>7094662
>Toolbox Killers
Ah wish I hadn't been reminded of those guys. One of the most disturbing cases I ever read about, the transcript of the audio recording they made of torturing that girl was fucking brutal. There are some truly depraved people in the world. The one guy who always used pliers even signs his letters "Pliers Bittaker" from prison.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 22:53:05 2020 No.7094674 File: 164 KB, 878x621, 7x1V3BB.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7094643

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 22:55:40 2020 No.7094682 >>7094618 It's bad, but it's not that bad, it's like a total conversion of Duke 3D, but the levels are conected by a hub. There's also no ammo in the levels itself, I suppose the intent was to make the player ration whatever they got in the hub.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 22:56:49 2020 No.7094684 >>7094616 Shadow Warrior's gameplay is superior but Blood is a slightly tighter package. I don't think the gap in enjoyability is infinite between them. Then again, I always bet on Duke.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 22:58:32 2020 No.7094685
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>>7094662
I was somewhat prepared for that after watching this review of Extreme. It's really good and thorough, probably because the guy sounds like a slav and we all know how much they love old shooters. Its damn near half an hour long:
https://youtu.be/2vTgXyBbecY

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 22:59:16 2020 No.7094689 >>7094684 No pain no gain haha!

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 23:06:34 2020 No.7094706

>>7094056
The Japanese were utterIy defeated. The fantasy of every Japanese citizen fighting to the death was just that, fantasy, they were starving at that point. They could've easily blockaded them until surrender. Nukes were a big dick move to assert dominance in the post war world, wasn't at all necessary to deal with the Japs.

>what? Waste more lives of whites? These nips aren't even chistians? Just nuke them!

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 23:10:10 2020 No.7094716

>>7094643
I explained why in the other discussion posts, it should all just be linked in the comment thread (part Asian anon here). It's misguided in that they paint a bunch of different Asian people with the same brush, out of loving ignorance. I don't care but this why some people (mostly white people too lol) are mad.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 23:11:52 2020 No.7094719 >>7094716 >I don't care That's what I was after. Based. >>7094706 Go to bed, Hirohito.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 23:22:24 2020 No.7094732

>>7094706
The loss of life from the two nukes that were dropped pales in comparison to what the loss of life would have been on both sides from a full-scale invasion of Japan. It was probably mostly a power move to scare the Soviets in the end anyways, but that's still a justification. Nukes may be an unforgivable sin, but when weighing the options of two unforgivable evils in wartime you have to be utilitarian in thinking for your country to win/less of your countrymen to die. Look at all the desperate fighting in the Pacific - if you were a general would you really want to commit more of your already exhausted men to invade a country when there's an alternative?
War isn't moral, it's about survival.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 23:40:09 2020 No.7094759 >>7093221 I would slightly disagree as I'd argue it peaked with Quake.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 23:44:43 2020 No.7094767 File: 2.95 MB, 768x432, quake_100%2.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7094759 Agreed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 23:55:36 2020 No.7094782 >>7094759 Quake is the only 3D FPS that still has the SOUL of the Golden Age of FPS, probably because it was the first and not far removed from that era

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 23:57:46 2020 No.7094787 Are any of the Q2 mission packs worth it? I didn't like the base single player much at all so I'm curious if the mission packs are better.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 00:00:16 2020 No.7094795 >>7094732 >>7094706 You should've just surrendered after Pearl Harbor, the world would be a much better place.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 00:00:33 2020 No.7094796 HL1 is 22 years old today.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 00:01:15 2020 No.7094797 >>7094795 t. Hirohito

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 00:01:26 2020 No.7094798 >>7094795 I'm not even American

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 00:02:54 2020 No.7094802 File: 45 KB, 542x472, 1604081950830.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7094796 >HL1 is 22 years old today

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 00:03:48 2020 No.7094806 Aww, are you really masturbating all by yourself?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 00:04:01 2020 No.7094809 >>7094802 Cope.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 00:04:28 2020 No.7094812 >>7094802 Believe it or not, some people enjoy things that you DON'T enjoy! Mind-blowing, right? >>7094796 Jesus this makes me feel old

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 00:06:33 2020 No.7094816 sleep tight /vr/

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 00:07:24 2020 No.7094818 >>7094816 Have a good night, buddy

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 00:08:19 2020 No.7094819
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>>7094051
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/g-i/hex

Pretty fun little level. Neat ideas with elevators and the yellow key that tricks you with teleporter linedefs all around it.

How can I leave a review for it on idgames anyway?

>>7094096
Thanks, your posts made me want to check this wad out.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 00:09:01 2020 No.7094821 7094802 Like clockwork lol You are obsessed mate

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 00:11:16 2020 No.7094827 File: 24 KB, 169x183, 1345023675424.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7094796 cool

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 00:12:20 2020 No.7094830 >>7094796 Kelly Bailey is the best American video game composer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raqLH-raNvw

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 00:14:01 2020 No.7094836 File: 1.37 MB, 400x225, doom-guy-bed-shotgun-you-got-the-shotgun-pulls-out-14189011020.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7094816 Good night lad

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 00:14:54 2020 No.7094837 File: 148 KB, 352x358, HUUH8.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7094816

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 00:23:28 2020 No.7094854
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>>7094051
Blofields Mum
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/a-c/blofield

All I can say is BRUH.
First level is literally 3 rooms, none of them are of any use, since Romero's head is right near you when you spawn.
Second is even worse somehow.

I just love that author was so confident in his shit he literally posted his full address and full name in the readme. I get that it was 96, but come the fuck on.

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 00:25:08 2020 No.7094858
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>>7094854
Here's a screen that came in the zip:
Modified date/time 30.01.1996 - 21:10:04
"This is one of many screenshots from our new
game Doom4 Statn Kicks Arse. A demo will be
out on the ftp soon. Keep your eyes open."

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 00:27:56 2020 No.7094864

>>7094192
I'd be interested too, but there are concerns that if we started now it might interfere with the blood project or the planned quake project. Perhaps we would be stretching ourselves thin with 3 projects at once. Still, I have a bunch of questions about the project even if it will be a while till work begins on it. Would we be using the plutonia iwad and textures? Would it be vanilla compatible? Would we use custom midis or stock doom? Should the maps be short like the original plutonia or long like plutonia 2? I have opinions but I think these points are still up in the air.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 00:30:36 2020 No.7094871 >>7094802 (you)

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 00:33:51 2020 No.7094874

>>7094864
I have opinions too.

>Would we be using the plutonia iwad and textures?
Definitely. I think we could use a couple from PL2 here and there.

>Would it be vanilla compatible?
I would prefer Boom, as that's what I'm comfortable with, and I think it's much more flexible.

>Would we use custom midis or stock doom?
I generally think it's more fun to use different .midis than the original ones, makes it a little bit more distinct. At least, not restricting ourselves to nothing but D1/D2 ones.

>but there are concerns that if we started now it might interfere with the blood project or the planned quake project. Perhaps we would be stretching ourselves thin with 3 projects at once
That's a very real concern, I'm kind of stretched thin even now, lol. Perhaps 94 Protons Of /vr/ can be a 2021 project?

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 00:35:01 2020 No.7094875

Oh right.
>>7094864
>Should the maps be short like the original plutonia or long like plutonia 2?
Gee, I mean, I guess we could leave that to people's discretion, assuming they don't try to bite off way more than they can chew, and to not be afraid of making a shorter map.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 00:38:15 2020 No.7094881 File: 23 KB, 474x557, 1604483607717.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7094858 >Doom4 Statn Kicks Arse

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 00:43:26 2020 No.7094890

>>7094608
Yeah Duke 3D is fucking awesome. You should play all the official expansions too. Duke is definitely King Dick when it comes to Build Engine shooters, with Blood and Shadow Warrior being its lesser but still good descendents. Blood comes close to being as good as Duke though

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 00:46:29 2020 No.7094894 File: 13 KB, 666x720, Doom_clone_vs_first_person_shooter.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] As evidenced by counting their frequency on Usenet, "Doom clone" was a more common term than "first-person shooter" until the late 1990s.

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 00:54:52 2020 No.7094910

>>7094874
I guess I'm mostly concerned about authentically emulating plutonia's style. Custom midis are fine by me but I think boom format would kind of disqualify it from being a proper plutonia clone. Perhaps limit removing is best and we can save vanilla for 128 visplanes of /vr/.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 00:56:32 2020 No.7094915 >>7094890 Based fact spewer. Did u play that Downtown Journey ep

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 01:06:37 2020 No.7094930 >>7094910 >authentically emulating plutonia Well, does it reeeally have to? I'm fine with just aiming at Plutonia aesthetics and then making it challenging.

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 01:23:02 2020 No.7094952

>>7094910
Do you mean emulating Plutonia's gameplay? Please don't emulate Plutonia's visual style, it's so unbelievably boring texture-wise that it makes me not want to play it ever. I admire Plutonia for what it did in its point in time (with the hardware limitations and all that) but hot damn is the texturework ever bad when taken out of this context.

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 01:25:52 2020 No.7094960

Plutonia is pretty fun, but difficult. Aztec in particular just fucked me pretty hard, but a lot of those were from how cruel it could be with surprise monster spawns/placements. Playing with the Midi pack and Final Doomer's weapons seem like a good choice as well.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 01:29:37 2020 No.7094967 >>7094952 It looks better than Doom 2.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 01:45:45 2020 No.7094998 >>7094967 I'd still argue that's a matter of preference but I don't think you're wrong at all. It's also worth noting that Final Doom came out about two years after Doom 2's release.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 01:51:25 2020 No.7095009 >>7094952 Well, if we aren't somehow imitating Plutonia's visuals, how Plutonia would it actually be?

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 01:56:12 2020 No.7095016

>>7095009
Slightly similar level design (partial "remixes" of sections or specific encounters, if you will) with more bastardly encounters could go a long way. I'm just talking suggestions out of my ass, I'm sure you guys will do great work like you always do. Just fuck Plutonia's boring visuals, man. I hate em.

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 01:56:37 2020 No.7095017
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>>7094051
av20 from memory
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/a-c/av20mem

Apparently it's a remake of Alien Vendetta Map20 from memory. I couldn't pass the first room because of invisible walls everywhere (apparently that's how it was designed), but looking at a monstercount I don't even care to try and continue.

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 02:14:58 2020 No.7095034
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>>7094051
Parthenon
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom/p-r/parth11

A bunch of very tight corridors filled with only zombies around this mostly empty arena.
Pretty boring, although blue key trap was well done.

Date on idgames is wrong - it originally came out on 16.06.94 and it shows.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 02:21:55 2020 No.7095045 >>7093379 Just try 'Big Doom' with what ever mapset you like Use '10x' or 'AI Director' to fill the maps with more enemies if you find the levels now too bare

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 02:32:52 2020 No.7095071

>>7094930
>>7094960

Wow, it seems like everyone has different ideas about what we're trying to do. I personally like the idea of lost level style maps, that believably could have been part of plutonia, like doom the way Id did but for plutonia. Obviously it's a bit dated visually, but pretty much all conventional maps still takes cues from its level design, so without the aesthetics it may as well be its own thing. That's just my interest because I really love the original though, and I think a throwback would be a fun exercise. I guess it will ultimately be up to the project leader.

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 02:48:43 2020 No.7095081
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>>7095034
Alright, this one isn't random, but readme for Panthenon referenced it

Megawatt
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom/m-o/megapack

For a 94 level it's a real treat. While texture work is pretty basic, it plays well. There are two issues I had with it - not so obvious teleport and the fact that you can sequence break and softlock yourself in a pit with a door that opens from the other side only.

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 02:50:08 2020 No.7095083
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>>7095081
>Panthenon
Jfc I'm sleepy. Parthenon

Second level, Megalab, is much more complex and fun, it shows how mapper's skill improved. Although I got lost now, most likely because I'm falling asleep already, so gonna finish it later.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 02:55:26 2020 No.7095089 >>7094287 Absolutely delusional if you think that looks better or has more soul than Half Life 1

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 02:58:58 2020 No.7095093 >>7093570 It's great although I'd say the first game is the weakest in the level design department. Marathon 2 and Infinity are great.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 03:00:20 2020 No.7095097 There's a lot of /v/eddit bait in this thread

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 03:02:26 2020 No.7095105 noting new, just ignore it

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 03:03:28 2020 No.7095109

>>7095071
Plutonia obviously has an aesthetic though, which involves filthy brickwork (gray, tan, brown), patched grass and vines (green, brown), rusty metal (dark brown) wood (pale tan), and water, sometimes murky (blue or brown), then a sky that's either a bright gray overcast, or a strong red miasma.

As you say, if it would just be a nod to the gameplay, which are common conventions these days, how is it really special and Plutonia like? It would be getting pretty brown, but there's more colors typical to Plutonia which can be used to break up the brown.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 03:04:32 2020 No.7095110 >>7095071 >Obviously it's a bit dated visually You could put more effort into linedef/sector detailing with the style of textures suitable for Plutonia.

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 03:05:57 2020 No.7095113

>>7093901
You can straight up download the Marathon game folder. If you plan to download any of the fanmade scenarios, you need to download Aleph One and copy and paste it into the scenario files. In case you wanna play online deathmatch/coop, you'd need to download the latest Aleph One version and paste it in the game folder although I don't know if there are any servers alive.

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 03:16:06 2020 No.7095128

>>7095113
Would be great if they could finally make a compatible version of Forge mode for modern OSs. It would simplify making content for Marathon a ton and probably just require two programs to make scenarios instead of five. Did the Aleph One guys every say anything about Forge?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 03:51:41 2020 No.7095172 >>7094134 is that chocolate doom?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 03:54:58 2020 No.7095176 File: 1.03 MB, 2448x3264, 7b33a58.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Cannot wait for Blood project release.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 03:58:43 2020 No.7095180 >>7094068 Identity politics. Hoping his weblog gains a little traction when he describes himself as Bi, to fit in with SJW and transfurries

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 04:01:01 2020 No.7095182 >>7095176 Is there an ETA for it, or is it a "when it's done it's done" sort of deal? Either way I'm going to have to practice Blood a bunch before release because I fucking suck at the game.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 04:02:05 2020 No.7095185 >>7095182 >>7093476

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 04:07:13 2020 No.7095193 File: 96 KB, 475x258, 1590692633405.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7094802

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 04:16:07 2020 No.7095202 >>7093886 >>7094287 The goldsrc/source engines have a fuckton of soul, and the games valve made with it are amazing. If you don't think so you're just being a contrarian or never palyed them.

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 04:17:55 2020 No.7095204

>>7094562
>I beat Doom 1 and 2+TnT two months ago on my Xbone
This is very good because you got the most boring stuff out of the way. Maps will just get better and better from here. The IWADs are important to play because of history but I found myself getting lost and bored when replaying Doom 2 and TNT and I still haven't finished those playthroughs.
>any recs to playthrough?
Quake: original campaign, mission pack 1, mission pack 2.
I like the Mark V WinQuake source port. It's like Crispy Doom in that you can play in 320x240 or 640x480 with wide-screen rendering. It's the modern source port closest to DOS, IMO; I would just use DOS but for some reason the game runs in slo-mo when there are too many particles when using DOSBox.

Duke 3D: original four episodes.
I like DOS for Duke, but if you want a modern source port, use EDuke32 or RedNukem. I was using RedNukem because I found a really annoying bug in EDuke but it may have been patched by now, I dunno, I've just been using DOS Duke.
I like the way MIDIs sound in DOSBox, but if you want to use a modern port, you can use the digital music packs: http://sc55.duke4.net/games.php
Just put that zip file in a new directory in your Duke folder called "autoload" and enable autoload upon starting up EDuke/RedNukem. Also I think you can find a high-quality SFX mod somewhere on that above website as well that you also put in the autoload folder. It takes sounds from the PlayStation port or something IIRC. They sound slightly better, good for a modern port but obviously unnecessary for DOS

ROTT: I never played it since it's based on the Wolfenstein engine

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 04:20:39 2020 No.7095210 >>7094782 Probably helps that Quake came out when Build engine games were still getting made.

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 04:21:20 2020 No.7095212

>>7094562
Doom: too many custom maps to list. I'd say do Scythe as your first custom map. Play using the Crispy Doom source port and try the options like vertical weapon recoil and test out the new HUD with -/+ keys. Try it with the Vanilla Doom Smooth Weapons mod.
You can also download Doom digital music packs from thesame website as above: http://sc55.duke4.net/games.php#doom
To get them to work in GZDoom just load them like any other mod, to use them in Crispy Doom you gotta configure crispy.cfg IIRC.
Download a MIDI player called Virtual MIDI Synth. I think you need to also download MIDIMapper from the same website if VMS doesn't work. Set your MIDI player in Doom to portmidi to use it. Anyway, download that MIDI player, and download these soundfonts:
Mysung Kite (I use this for most MIDIs),
RLNDGM (Jimmy composes his MIDIs with a very similar soundfont, so while the individual instruments sound flatter compared to a 1+gig soundfont like Mysung Kite, the balance of the instruments across the whole sounds much better)
Orpheus (another large soundfont file like Mysung Kite. Sounds good, I like the other better, but you might like this one)
SC-55 soundfont replicates the Roland SC-55, the device the original Doom and Duke music was composed on, so this soundfont sounds the same as the digital music packs above, but the music packs sound vastly, vastly better because it's lossless audio recorded on an actual Roland sound canvas. Anyway, this soundfont is still good to have even though I never use it.
Arachno soundfont, only because this is what you want should you ever play Valiant.wad
I don't like tinkering with soundfonts as it takes forever so those are the must-haves I think.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 04:23:15 2020 No.7095216 >>7094476 Classic>Q3A>64

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 04:25:26 2020 No.7095226 File: 27 KB, 500x333, 1323030468025.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7094910 >128 visplanes of /vr/

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 04:25:40 2020 No.7095227 >>7095193 Love ya

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 04:37:46 2020 No.7095238 >>7095185 Thanks mate, I'm half-cut and clearly can't read hahaha

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 05:42:57 2020 No.7095331 OH LOOK, YOU COMING APART!

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 06:01:14 2020 No.7095363 Best way to play Blood? NBlood? Fresh Supply?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 06:03:10 2020 No.7095368 >>7095363 Fresh Supply if you want to be optimistic and hope that more money thrown at Atari will make them realize people are interested. BuildGDX/NBlood if you don't give a shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 06:10:55 2020 No.7095374 >>7092596 I wish I had that amount of free time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 06:12:27 2020 No.7095375 >>7093571 Since 1998.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 06:13:29 2020 No.7095378 >>7094076 >lots of balls >a liiiiittle bit of penis

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 06:13:55 2020 No.7095379 >>7095374 >He said, posting on /vr/ https://youtu.be/r72a19Lbz7k?t=137

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 06:42:51 2020 No.7095402 >>7092525 no it isn't play nuts.wad and see it yourself the scripting VM needs more JIT

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 06:47:02 2020 No.7095405 >>7095180 yeah and not to be fist to be cancelled if trouble arises

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 06:47:36 2020 No.7095406 >>7095402 >and performance issues on larger maps.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 06:50:23 2020 No.7095408 >>7095406 >due to fuck a lot monsters and animated decorations yeah, scripting subsystem needs a LOT work

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 06:50:34 2020 No.7095409 >>7095402 >a huge and ridiculous bullshit map which was made to stretch Vanilla Doom's anus doesn't run well on a future port with a heavy emphasis on hardware rendering and complex scripting

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 06:51:13 2020 No.7095412 >>7095408 Do enlighten us on what you'd change.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 06:53:41 2020 No.7095416 >>7095368 After you go with one make sure to encourage Jace Hall to buy the IP from Atari, it may never happen but maybe we can make a collective dream into reality through sheer force of will

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 06:57:20 2020 No.7095421 >>7095412 threading and JIT THREADING AND JIT lightmaps so decorations that produce light (dynamic) won't slow down the rendering speed separate processing queue(s) for monster AI and others (threads)

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 07:00:11 2020 No.7095426 >>7095421 >threading So rebuild the engine? I don't know what JIT is.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 07:07:10 2020 No.7095436 >>7094894 Looks like it was right about the time Quake 2 came out that First-Person Shooter over-took Doom Clone

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 07:07:31 2020 No.7095438 >>7095426 JIT (Just In Time) : repeatedly run script or parts of it will be compiled to target CPU instruction sets, thus increasing the execution speed tremendously

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 07:42:10 2020 No.7095487 >>7095438 You should tell Graf about that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 07:44:57 2020 No.7095490 >>7095487 i think Graf or other developer knows that, because i have seen references for asmjit at the source code

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 07:52:53 2020 No.7095495 Is ROTT 2013 worth it? I know it has some optimization issues.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 08:14:20 2020 No.7095524 >>7095495 looks fun in my eyes and pretty true to the original game for better or for worse. Im not even sure where to get the original ROTT anymore and i dont want to pay for it either

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 08:52:10 2020 No.7095604 >>7095524 from the internet? by using google search?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 09:02:39 2020 No.7095623 >>7094387 I hope somebody uses it as a base. >>7094413 I remember playing Doom 1 on Windows 98 on a laptop with a screen that was probably the size of the switch, did it really look like that?

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 09:06:46 2020 No.7095625

>>7095524>Im not even sure where to get the original ROTT anymore and i dont want to pay for it either
Then wait for the remaster to come out and pirate it, since no one is doing a decent source port. I don't even know what the fuck happened to Kaiser's ROTT source port.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 09:08:01 2020 No.7095628 >>7095623 >Windows 98 laptop It was probably Doom95 which has a higher resolution.

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 09:19:27 2020 No.7095645

>>7094528
Jelly of you, I bought that, plus Metal slug and some other games to play it with my brother since he has the Switch, never happened, and he tells me that it has been taking dust for months, told me he would give it to me (2 months ago). Ever used Nucleus coop?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 09:38:44 2020 No.7095672 >>7094492 the QC full armor shows that the belly is covered, but the armor was ripped by demons

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 09:41:38 2020 No.7095675 >>7094796 yes but the thread OP will be out only later today or tomorrow depending of how this thread will go also RTCW bday is tomorrow too, therefore if a drawfag does a art of BJ and Gordon Bday would be nice UT is november 22

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 09:48:18 2020 No.7095690 File: 2.16 MB, 1920x1500, 84978375_p0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Traditional shambler waifu or trendy timbler waifu?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 10:08:07 2020 No.7095717 >>7095690 traditional duh

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 10:10:13 2020 No.7095720 >>7094638 >What about the Doom Rise of the Triad TC? Is it good? I only played it once, but I really enjoyed it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 10:14:24 2020 No.7095724 >>7095690 Is this supposed to be a trick question?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 10:23:00 2020 No.7095732 >>7095495 It's only good remake/sequel of classic shooters I've seen aside from Black Mesa. Mostly because the original sucked, so the bar was set low..

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 10:30:41 2020 No.7095749

As someone who prefers to play in software renderer, I have to say, I really appreciate modern Vanilla compatible megawads for the simple fact that they can provide good looking visuals while having no performance impact in any source port no matter the choice of renderer.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 10:32:29 2020 No.7095752 >newest version of gzdoom defaults freelook to on FOR WHAT PURPOSE

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 10:33:43 2020 No.7095756 >>7095752 for the newbie casuals

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 10:33:54 2020 No.7095757
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>>7094051
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom/s-u/swfort

I started cheating after falling into inescapeable lava just to find if it gets any good. Doesn't seem so. Mandatory secrets and anooying platforms, little to no fun.
Nice fort though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 10:34:58 2020 No.7095758 >>7095757 Oh damn it, I didn't actually make a screenshot. But there's not much to see.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 10:39:58 2020 No.7095764 >>7095752 The default settings are how graf plays.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 10:44:50 2020 No.7095772 >>7095764 I guess we should count our blessings that revenants firing homing missiles isn't an option that defaults to off.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 10:55:14 2020 No.7095793 >>7095752 because it's gzdoom and it should be on gzdoom isn't for playing doom, it's for playing modern gameplay mods

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 11:05:13 2020 No.7095817 >>7095752 GZDoom isn't the right choice for pure Doom gameplay to begin with. Sure, it's doable after going through settings, but other source ports do it more accurately, and often out of the box.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 11:07:32 2020 No.7095821 >>7095690 traditional shambler is cute

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 11:08:20 2020 No.7095824 File: 170 KB, 634x640, 977349FD-D995-4F6A-BA55-05990276697B.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7095752

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 11:45:13 2020 No.7095892 >>7094915 Nah I haven't played that yet. Is it any good?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 11:47:41 2020 No.7095898 >>7095625 Thr pirated GOG version is on PirateBay bro lol and I am pretty sure the full version is in thr massive mega archives linked in OP. Anyway, I am playing the GOG version that I torrented.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 11:56:52 2020 No.7095915 File: 96 KB, 512x320, rott.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7095732 Hey fuck you, ROTT is BASED. 'NUFF SAID.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 11:58:27 2020 No.7095920 >>7095524 I got the remake and the original by just searching torrent trackers, yeah there aren't many seeders for either, but they're there.

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 12:05:32 2020 No.7095934
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>>7095416
Ok ok BuyBloodposter - it isn't likely to happen if Jace doesn't win this counter lawsuit against Billy because he won't have the liquid funds to do it with otherwise.

As a sidenote: Twin Galaxies (Jace Hall) is countersueing Billy for $3,333,360, which is the exact score of a perfect game of Pac-Man, which Billy was NOT the first to get.

Based Jace.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 12:10:24 2020 No.7095941 File: 23 KB, 576x432, 1605064721020.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >mfw ICARUSLIV3S doesn't play Doom without Smooth Doom as its "a modern convenience that just makes everything look better."

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 12:11:24 2020 No.7095943
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>>7094051
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/heretic/Ports/burialgr
First map i get is a heretic map and not a bad one either, it was made 2000 and i had a good time playing it Granted i was kinda stuck on the blue key area and it was quite nice.

Now that i've read the readme file, it states that i order to play it right i should have used wHeretic but i've used GZdoom so it's possible it could be for that reason.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 12:20:50 2020 No.7095956 >>7095941 Smooth doom is great contrariannigger

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 12:22:19 2020 No.7095960 >>7095941 what a strange thing to be mad about

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 12:27:10 2020 No.7095969 >>7095956 >>7095956 No it isn't, original pixels or bust. Smoothing filters have always been cringe since they first started showing up in emulators.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 12:28:17 2020 No.7095971 >>7095969 its...its not a filter guy

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 12:30:02 2020 No.7095976 >>7095971 Filter, shader, piss and shit wader, who cares it looks shitty

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 12:30:43 2020 No.7095979 >>7095976 it isn't any of those things. do you even know what it is?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 12:33:07 2020 No.7095986 >>7095979 I don't care what it is, it looks ugly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 12:43:00 2020 No.7096009 >>7094685 Good review, theres not a ton of RoTT content on YT so it's nice to see

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 12:44:19 2020 No.7096012 HL1 turned 22 this year

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 12:48:06 2020 No.7096023 >>7096012 And yet Valve didn't made the original game Free to keep yet

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 13:16:59 2020 No.7096093 >>7095941 I used to think this, but I've gone back to vanilla because it just looks and feel better in the long run.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 13:17:56 2020 No.7096096 >>7096023 That's because they can't milk money off of whales buying cosmetics like TF2 or CS:GO.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 13:21:17 2020 No.7096114 File: 38 KB, 800x400, 5a972322aae6051d008b45b4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7096012 Fuck Half-Life you queer

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 13:22:18 2020 No.7096116 7096114 No one is falling for your baits again alf

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 13:23:59 2020 No.7096118

>>7093875
wow this looks bad. A completely barren landscape with a couple of dungeons that had thought put into them (created by Id, not the modder I wager) strewn about reminds me of Skyrim a lot.
If these were connected by tighter transitional areas that aren't just single sector stretching out for miles and had been structured more like Strife, it would have been amazing. Right now, it looks as low effort as you can get.
I mean look at the shapes of outer walls of buildings. That's embarrassing

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 13:24:46 2020 No.7096124 >>7094894 >>7095436 So where's the anon who autistically bitches about Quake 2 ruining everything forever?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 13:25:41 2020 No.7096127 Just curious, who here prefers pistol starts and who prefers playing continuously. Personally, I'm on the fence. Continuous just feels good but pistol starting means you're playing the map as the mapper intended for the most part.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 13:26:11 2020 No.7096128 >>7095009 >2048 chaingunners of /vr/

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 13:29:46 2020 No.7096134 >>7096128 We need 500 hours of /vr/Q2, all maps with Gunners, Shotgunners, Turrets and every bad shit from Xatrix and rogue. also bonus for parasite traps with no Shotgun like the old JF Gustaffsson maps.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 13:31:11 2020 No.7096137 >>7096127 I'm on the fence too, in a sense. I play saveless, accepting a pistol start on any level that kills me, or when I decide to quit and -warp to where I left off in a megawad.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 13:39:09 2020 No.7096154 >>7095941 Eat shit bud, vsmooth is the way to go unless it doesn't play nice with a certain pwad.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 14:19:31 2020 No.7096230 >>7096127 I'm in for longplays. I mostly play megawads, and each one of them is a journey. So this means continuous play and no pistol-starts. If the mapper intended pistol start, he should have made a death exit the map before.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 14:20:51 2020 No.7096232 >>7096127 I play original Doom IWADs continuously since they aren't tightly desgined. Except for Plutonia I guess which I recently started with a pistol start. PWADs I usually play with pistol start.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 14:22:00 2020 No.7096234 >>7095934 >It isn't likely to happen if TG doesn't win the lawsuit against Billy shithead Even if it doesn't result in the resurrection of Blood I hope TG wins the suit - fuck Billy Mitchell

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 14:25:25 2020 No.7096245 >>7092496 https://www.gog.com/game/powerslave Powerslave (DOS) has been re-released commercially

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 14:29:24 2020 No.7096251 >>7096245 YESSSSSSSSS FUCKING FINALLY

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 14:30:24 2020 No.7096254 File: 301 KB, 512x512, 1600734805908.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7096127 If it's a first time through a mapset, I go continuous while abstaining from midlevel saves unless it's a huge, huge level and I'm getting wrecked.

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 14:30:50 2020 No.7096260

>>7095645
I've never heard of Nucleus co-op, what's that?

>>7096118
It's basically a proof-of-concept demo anyways, it's not great but the quality of writing in the mod description on moddb is an indicator of the mod's overall quality so I don't really understand what you expected.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 14:32:21 2020 No.7096263 File: 406 KB, 1920x1080, e9b3abef2324a6e7952f8bc83b5119c3c51e8e503cbdc6655452b75c87312500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7096245 That's a familiar revolver

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 14:34:47 2020 No.7096269 >>7092496 >>7093527 >>7094249 >>7092689 >>7092519 Youtube video is up, demo has been submitted https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcXHg-Wu36A

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 14:35:17 2020 No.7096270 >>7095941 i would like smooth doom more if it was properly integrated and didnt conflict with every mod ever made

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 14:35:29 2020 No.7096274 >>7096263 yeah that revolver's been in every single doom mod i swear

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 14:36:10 2020 No.7096275

>>7095495
Optimization is horrible, level design is linear, gameplay is mediocre, and they completely ruined the humor. You know how the original ROTT has absurd stuff like turning into a dog or putting on itchy armor? Well these devs thought it would be funny to make your character burp and fart every time you get a health pickup.

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 14:40:27 2020 No.7096287

>>7096234
Billy is fucked this time - word is Jace has been pissed with his TG purchase from the beginning because Walter Day and Billy misrepresented things and it ended up being a big pile of shit when he finally got it, full of literal frauds like Billy and Todd Rodgers. TG is going for the jugular in this countersuit, they are attacking his entire career/reputation that he claims in his lawsuit was destroyed by Jace/TG removing his scores and saying he cheated. They have proof he didn't get the first perfect Pac-Man. His famous supposed award from Namco as "Video Gamer of the Century" (pic related)? They have proof Walter Day created that award a month before this photo and they then called Namco and said it would be a good photo op for them to let Billy play a live perfect game of Pac-Man and then presenting him with an award. The award he is being given here is literally just congratulating him on the perfect Pac-Man he had just played. Walter and Billy lied and said Namco gave the 'Century' award. They have proof of all this and can easily ask Namco themselves if they gave him such an award. This shit has been rumored for years but now it will be presented in a court of law where Billy will have to actually prove otherwise, he won't be able to slither his way out this time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 14:41:33 2020 No.7096291 File: 84 KB, 497x326, sham event.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7096287 Forgot pic

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 14:47:55 2020 No.7096306

>>7096275
It's really not that bad. It's actually pretty good for what it is and was obviously a labor of love by fan of the the original. Interceptor is a tiny team so what they were able to do is good I think. Some of the voice lines are a little annoying and it had horrible optimization issues at launch but they have been patched. It's still not perfect but alot of the bad press it got at launch were due to those issues which aren't really such an issue anymore.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 14:50:10 2020 No.7096310 >>7096287 I see that the only people who'll get something out of this are lawyers. Judges would not bother looking into fake records from 20-40 years ago. Probably they'll have some bullshit "meet in the middle" agreement which will change nothing

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 14:51:56 2020 No.7096312 >>7096310 They will look into them because he is literally suing them for libel and slander for saying these things aren't true. They are. That's what the suit is about.

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 14:56:19 2020 No.7096325

>>7096312
*They aren't

Karl Jobst covers the new counter lawsuit by TG pretty well here:
https://youtu.be/yJ74cr1x6SE

Billy intimidated Apollo Legend into folding and not only taking down his Billy video but even giving him full ownership of it. He won't be able to do the same with Jace. He has the funds and hates Billy, this will go to court, unless Billy folds there will be no out of court settlements this time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 14:58:50 2020 No.7096332 >>7093990 sucks that I can't just say I don't find Shadow Warrior/Lo Wang all that funny without being lumped in with the "oof, yikes, sweety" type people. WHO WANTA SOME WANG still a classic though.

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 15:00:27 2020 No.7096337

>>7095416
It'll never happen. I don't know if you're aware but Blood II fucking bombed and the original wasn't exactly a blockbuster in sales either. It has a dedicated cult following of course but I don't know why from a business perspective Jace would even want to buy the IP

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 15:03:54 2020 No.7096349 >>7096332 I THINKA MY DINGHY HANGIN OUT is always fun

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 15:15:49 2020 No.7096389 >>7096332 Its okay to find him not that funny, hopefully no one gave that impression, what's tedious is not finding him funny because of hurt fee fees and boo boos. If you just don't find him that funny that's a-ok

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 15:18:14 2020 No.7096398

>>7096337
He's a very rich man, if he cares enough about the first games he ever worked on then he might save the source code from being lost to time forever. From a purely business perspective it wouldn't make sense and I doubt it will ever happen but a guy can dream, can't he?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 15:21:45 2020 No.7096418 >>7096398 Jace has claimed he has the source code

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 15:44:33 2020 No.7096490

>>7096418
So if he's not lying then he hasn't forgotten about it, at least. I think other "lesser known" (ie anything that wasn't as popular as Doom, Quake, or Duke) 90's shooters should all have their source code released - they're an important part of gaming history and losing source code to time is a damned shame.

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 15:46:43 2020 No.7096496
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Did you know that Extreme Rise of the Triad was the first FPS with non-linear level progression in the form of some stages having multiple exits that lead to different sets of levels for the episode before reaching the boss - even if it is in a more primitive form than Hexen which was released a few months later.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 16:05:00 2020 No.7096557 >>7096127 Mostly continuous but often I want to start in a specific level rather than just the first one. Not carrying things from previous levels feels like a waste.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 16:05:53 2020 No.7096559 >>7095752 >he uses gzdoom >instead of lzdoom Anon, I...

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 16:17:07 2020 No.7096597

>>7096127
I'm fine with both, generally I'll play continuous on a difficult mapset or if I'm stoned/drunk and feel like just having fun. I save the pistol starts for when I want to challenge my skills and understanding of the game or if I'm playing a new community wad that was specifically designed around it. Both are great ways to play, just for different reasons.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 16:17:39 2020 No.7096604 >>7096389 i just think his lines play way too often for how few there are of them

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 16:21:00 2020 No.7096614 >>7096496 Did you know that RoTT gameplay sucked?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 16:23:51 2020 No.7096621 File: 30 KB, 320x200, ROTT COMM-BAT deathmatch.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7096614 No I didn't because it isn't true and you're an enormous homosexual who probably never even played it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 16:25:20 2020 No.7096627 >>7096621 This is a screencap of the devs playing Deathmatch, you can see Tom Hall's username in the top left corner as he is the one who took the cap.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 16:26:13 2020 No.7096629 >>7093705 People who played my maps like them too (All three of the people) but I always lose in my eyes to something else that is actually good and feel like I can't move past it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 16:29:44 2020 No.7096638 >>7096496 >>7096621 You're really only serving to worsen public opinion of ROTT with such aggressive over-selling. I like the game but this is just embarrassing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 16:31:05 2020 No.7096641 >>7096638 Especially when the remaster isn't out for a while yet. Gonna make people not play it out of spite at this rate

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 16:31:12 2020 No.7096645 >>7096638 How is that overselling? All this is true. Why do you hate ROTT so much?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 16:31:14 2020 No.7096646 >>7096638 This, it was funny for a few threads now it's just annoying

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 16:32:33 2020 No.7096648

>>7096641
All these facts are just that, facts. It helps to raise awareness and bump the thread. Would it be better for no discussion of it at all to occur? Because that's how it was. Now at least a few anons have said they started playing it because of said discussion recently.

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 16:33:09 2020 No.7096657

>>7093571
As a new mapper, I find that the ridiculously good mapsets make me feel like absolute shit until I remember that most of these guys have been mapping for years. Maybe in 10 years or so I'll make something rad as shit like Ancient Aliens, you never know until you apply and refine a skillset for years and look back on your progress. Most pros in every field all start the same way, with improvement coming through countless hours of hard work and perseverance.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 16:34:06 2020 No.7096660 File: 76 KB, 512x320, gibs, ludicrously.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ROTTposting will continue until morale improves.

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 16:36:05 2020 No.7096670

>>7096657
Its easy to get discouraged when you see the absolutely amazing work some can achieve but you're right that most have been at it for years and they all had to start somewhere too. Also not everyone picks up on and retains level design principles from other mappers that have a higher skill and that is key, the best mappers are able to do this and that is why they got as good as they are.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 16:36:35 2020 No.7096672 >>7096645 >>7096648 Because you act like a Jehova's Witness or brutal kiddie. Pestering people with "Have you heard about our Lord and Savior Tom Hall" is not going to attract them.

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 16:36:59 2020 No.7096673

>>7096641
If somebody refuses to play a certain game because of what people say on the internet, that person really needs to take a hard look at their own life and sort their priorities. Jesus Christ, this board is 18+, I shouldn't even have to point this out.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 16:37:23 2020 No.7096675 >>7096672 Have you heard the good news about ROTT? The Second Coming is almost upon us.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 16:38:06 2020 No.7096676 Was the original Marathon always this floaty or is it the A1 engine being weird? I don't mind it but it is a bit annoying since you can't strafe mid-air.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 16:38:23 2020 No.7096679 >>7096673 This, what kind of retard doesn't play something "out of spite" because they see other people talking about it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 16:40:47 2020 No.7096687 >>7096679 Manchildren who love gatekeeping any and everything despite the only thing that they're really saving is their virginity in the process.

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 16:41:18 2020 No.7096689

>>7096676
Its intended, its to simulate low gravity, Marathon 2 and 3 are the same. You can skim across water if you have momentum and float over gaps. It feels weird at first coming from traditional FPS movement but once you get used to it then its fine.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 16:41:32 2020 No.7096691 >>7096641 There's a remaster coming?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 16:42:53 2020 No.7096696 >>7096691 Yes, Graf is working on it. I don't know that its so much a remaster as a new official sourceport. Its coming to PC and all consoles first quarter 2021.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 16:45:12 2020 No.7096701 >>7096696 It'll have widescreen support and probably multiplayer which is cool. I sure there will be other modern conviences added as well which is standard at this point for this style of rerelease

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 16:46:13 2020 No.7096704
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>>7096689
Well my gripe with it is that when you're heading towards a hole sideways and start falling, you're suddenly forced to move forward. No problem with the rest of the game though, it's great.
>>7096696
Pretty nice, I'll look forward to it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 16:46:44 2020 No.7096706 >>7096701 The weird teaser that 3DRealms posted on YouTube showed it briefly being played on a Switch, hopefully this means couch co-op

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 16:55:48 2020 No.7096725 Does anyone have that image of ranger from quake where it says beat the niggur?

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 16:56:29 2020 No.7096727

>>7096706
That would be pretty awesome, I will be getting the Xbox One version, would be pretty based to play on the couch with my older brother as we used to play it as kids.

Now we just need a rerelease of Shadow Warrior and Blood to come to all platforms and I'd be set as far as FPS to play on my living room couch. I know they did Fresh Supply but I hear it was a shitshow and PC only which is a shame.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 16:58:21 2020 No.7096732 >>7096727 Shadow Warrior will never be a multiplatform reality in today's Western political climate, sadly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 16:58:27 2020 No.7096734 File: 69 KB, 174x264, 1605419755326.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7096725 BEAT EM

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 16:59:29 2020 No.7096736 >>7096732 Well Duke got a port to 360/PS3 and more recently the modern consoles and its seen as "problematic" as well. Though yeah it doesn't have the muh racism issue.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 16:59:55 2020 No.7096737 >>7096732 When will culture war fuck off and die?

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 17:01:06 2020 No.7096740
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Today in the furry choco doom derivate game, we have invented a way to trick in a 3rd dimension.
currently it's limited to just having the lighting be up 256 but we will be changing it soon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 17:01:19 2020 No.7096741 >>7096734 Thanks

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 17:02:14 2020 No.7096746 >>7096737 It'll happen when extreme people from both sides devour their own movements like they always do.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 17:03:01 2020 No.7096748 File: 16 KB, 154x256, communityIcon_dxou2b1ku5x11.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] hmmm today i will play some doom, maybe jpcp ? recommend crispy playable wads.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 17:03:38 2020 No.7096749 >>7096746 So around 4 years from now, nice.

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 17:05:33 2020 No.7096754

>>7096727
A rerelease of Quake 1 would be really cool. Its rumored id is planning to do a big reboot of the original Quake ala nuDOOM after they finish with DOOM. Could be bullshit but I would love to see an expansion of the Cthulu mythos from the original Quake and a modern port to consoles and PC would probably come along with that. I can play the HD remaster of Quake 2 that came with Quake 4 on Xbox 360 and it had a game that is basically Q3A on Xbox Live Arcade that I can play (albeit with bots) but the only console option is like Saturn or PSX or N64.

Yes I know PC is superior to console versions but I like the convenience

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 17:05:51 2020 No.7096757 If the USA collapses I hope that John Carmack himself will rise from a fallen empire's ashes like a mighty pheonix and lead us all into a technological utopia.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 17:06:57 2020 No.7096762 >>7096754 >q2 remaster on 360 ha someone ever dug the files that one? i remember seeing people doing that

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 17:07:12 2020 No.7096764 >Just beat Caged on Plutonia Starting to really feel it lads. Much better than TnT so far.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 17:08:26 2020 No.7096769 File: 37 KB, 939x529, EkgAoW-XUAA_Vhs.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7096757 He shall come bearing not an olive branch, but a flaming sword. https://youtu.be/X68Mm_kYRjc

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 17:09:23 2020 No.7096772

>>7096754
If they reboot Quake and it's more true to the spirit of the original than both nuDooms were to Doom, I will blow a load in my pants the moment I learn the news. I play on PC all the time but being able to introduce my console-only friends to the mighty Quake sounds like great fun.

>>7096769
10/10

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 17:13:35 2020 No.7096782

>>7096762
Not sure. It seems obscure as fuck, I never see people talk about it. It came with the first priting run on Quake 4 on 360. I just happened to get it included in the case with a copy of Q4 I bought used for 5 bucks.

It is apparently the first HD remaster of any game on Xbox 360, which I didn't know. Digital Foundry did a segment on the port in their Quake 2 video:

https://youtu.be/DFYjSkUdfb4
360 port is discussed at 26:25

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 17:14:05 2020 No.7096783 >>7093285 I love mowing down a room of guards with this thing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 17:14:47 2020 No.7096784 >>7096764 I still didn't beat it on UV with pistol start. Awful lots of shit going on there.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 17:15:51 2020 No.7096790 >>7096769 I felt like I was the only one who followed Jace Hall's show. All his uploads have like a couple hundred views or something.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 17:18:04 2020 No.7096797 >>7096748 struggle

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 17:18:14 2020 No.7096798 >>7096784 Caged was a fucking hellhole. So many times I died in like 3 seconds before I could get my bearings. I've been playing UVPS, but I've off-set it a bit letting myself save once a map.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 17:18:32 2020 No.7096802 >>7096790 I haven't watched any thing else of it but the Carmack choke out scene is somewhat legendary. Is the show good otherwise?

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 17:22:33 2020 No.7096804

>>7096260
Nucleus is a tool that turns lots of coop games into splitscreen games like say...Ark, Dead Rising 2, Dying Light, Payday, etc...
>>7096245
>Dosbox
why? The guy who ported Turok had already done a Powerslave conversion, heck I think the download is somewhere on these pastebins.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 17:26:45 2020 No.7096809 >>7096696 >Graf is working on it Good for him, that's awesome

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 17:27:01 2020 No.7096812

Ancient Aliens is really pushing my shit in, even playing continuous. Still, I appreciate how great the design is and love the use of tough monsters as hard to kill sentry turrets. Those telefrag animations are so good.
I just spent way too long on map five until I realised you're meant to run past the revenant ambush at the end and use the switch to open the area up.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 17:27:32 2020 No.7096813 File: 27 KB, 320x200, rise-of-the-triad-the-hunt-begins_13.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7096783 It's a based feeling, a feeling I get similarly when mowing down guards with the MP40 in ROTT.

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 17:32:05 2020 No.7096827

>>7096127
I prefer pistol starts, but I see no reason to be inflexible about it. For example, I did a continuous playthrough of Adventures of Square just to blast through it and see what it's all about, so I suppose it just depends. Doom I play pistol starts so I don't have to worry about exiting with 10% health, and also carrying weapons over tends to trivialize the starting sections of the next map. You don't NEED to carry over weapons, everything the map maker himself thinks you need is given to you.

The real question is whether to save or not. I would just say play however you want so that you play through as many map sets as possible, and anything that is your favorite you can grind over and over with pistol-starts no-saves attempts. If you attempt to blind pistol start no save everything you run the risk of playing shitty maps over and over with no saves and burning yourself out

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 17:36:53 2020 No.7096837

>>7096802
I think it's good considering the Jace Hall Show predates the youtuber/twitch era, his show was originally on GameTrailers. There's a good amount of fun and humor and makes himself look pretty based.

Here's Ice T kino
https://youtu.be/MLXhw7AlH0I?t=52
https://youtu.be/QqBs7zNF70g?t=108
1:48, later continues at 3:54

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 17:39:42 2020 No.7096840

>>7096827
I view doing no saves as more of a challenge thing myself. I'm not a good player so some of the thougher wads would burn me out through a groundhog day style endless restart fest if I didn't let myself save occasionally.
Actually save scumming is bad though, and a habit I sometimes get into if I'm annoyed enough at a map.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 17:39:55 2020 No.7096841 File: 59 KB, 531x467, xA8LLRu.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7096769

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 17:41:10 2020 No.7096847 >>7096837 Looks cool, I'm gonna check it out the series then.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 17:43:04 2020 No.7096850 >>7096769 >Buildlets must fear Idtech gods

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 17:45:09 2020 No.7096854 [DELETED]

>>7096754
>an expansion of the Cthulu mythos
>I will blow a load in my pants

Ah yes I can't wait for my high octane, 4k 200 FPS combat to broken up by a 45 page grimoire about Glomel-goth and dinklederp's quantum phase-particle wormhole (that's also mAgIC"

All to explain why i'm being shot at by lazors and chased by a guy with a sword in the same arena

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 17:46:30 2020 No.7096858 >>7096854 >implying original doom lore was any better

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 17:50:55 2020 No.7096862 File: 1.09 MB, 1240x1754, PC_Format_97_April_Ad_150dpi.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7092495 How do I get music to play with the PCExhumed sourceport?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 17:51:46 2020 No.7096864 >>7096757 >Carmack becomes a warlord >dicks around for couple of years, then moves on to something else

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 17:53:27 2020 No.7096870

>>7096840
A method I discovered while playtesting anonymous maps is play pistol starts no saves, but start on skill 1, just in case there is any bullshit. This pretty much guarantees you get through the map with no saves in a speedy manner, and you still get the thrill of falling for each trap and battling on. Then, since you already know the map, you can try it again on skill 2, and skill 3, and finally skill 4. You could even try again with fast monsters and then nightmare after that. This is a good training method, especially for difficult maps, because playing without saves will hone your skill. However this can also lead to burnout if you start on too low/high of a skill level or if you blindly employ this time-consuming method on an unfun set of maps. That's why I say, just play through however you want, and save the grinding for the really good maps you find

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 17:56:51 2020 No.7096875

>>7096782
yes, and that port is more updated than Q2's pc release, also the game behaves differently than the PC release when it comes to image filtering and anti aliasing.
Though the AI issues still persists, and mostly because of the Animation frames.

in fact, something that could be fixed if modern Q2 source ports supports DLL patches for it along with IQM
A Quick frame Gunner would be a nightmare

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:01:00 2020 No.7096886

>>7096862
Exhumed/Powerslave seems based as fuck but its probably the last major classic FPS I have never played. They are very different games right? I have heard the PC port is very different than the original version but I don't want to play it on a fucking Sega Saturn. What is the best way/version to play to get the full experience in 2020?

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:02:51 2020 No.7096887

>>7096886
GOG just released the game so probably get it from there. I got it from the "third wave" folder in one of the links in the OP post, though. Use the PCExhumed sourceport too.
I've only played it a little bit but the sprite work and sound design is A+. I've seen a lot of these textures in several Doom pwads.
I'm still trying to figure out how to get the music working, though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:03:00 2020 No.7096889 >>7096790 Beside him getting chocked the only one I remember is the one where they were the first to show Duke Nukem Forever gameplay.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:08:53 2020 No.7096901 >>7096887 Is the level design/gameplay changed alot in the PC version as compared to the original? Gameplay I have seen of the Saturn version makes it look almost like an FPS metroidvania.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:10:12 2020 No.7096907 >>7096886 SSF emulator works really well and powerslave looks decent anon.

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:11:00 2020 No.7096909

>>7096862
>>7096886
BuildGDX is better than PCExhumed. Easy to get music set up, comes with widescreen sprites, can add skyboxes, and it supports free saving rather than checkpoints.

The Saturn version is a completely different game from the DOS version. It has a sourceport too, Powerslave EX. It's technically unfinished and not officially available anymore, but it works fine and can be found easily with a little googling.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:11:07 2020 No.7096910 >>7096889 I can't remember but I think they also showed Borderlands before the cartoon direction

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:14:51 2020 No.7096917

>>7096907
Can it be set up to have dual analog stick controls with a modern PC gamepad? If so Id be willing to try it, but playing an FPS on thr Saturn's controller seems like a nightmare.
>>7096909
So BuildGDX supports Powerslave? It's not a Build engine game is it?

What version do you guys recommend? The original or the later PC version?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:15:51 2020 No.7096918 >>7096909 Powerslave EX is based on the PSX version, which is another VERY VERY Differently game.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:16:54 2020 No.7096921 >>7096918 So wait goddamn, there are 3 distinct versions? Saturn, PSX and PC and they are totally different?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:17:59 2020 No.7096925 >>7096782 Great video. Thx.

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:18:58 2020 No.7096929

>>7096917
The DOS version of Powerslave was made on Build. It's a pretty good game, but most people find the console version more interesting because it has Metroid-like progression with powerups and backtracking.
>>7096918
>>7096921
Nah not really, the Saturn and PS1 versions are basically the same with some differences in levels.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:19:37 2020 No.7096931 >>7096929 So the DOS version plays more like a standard 90s FPS then I assume?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:20:31 2020 No.7096935 >>7095752 Just turn it off?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:21:29 2020 No.7096937 >>7096931 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCsO8O4W4Fw watch this

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:22:28 2020 No.7096939
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>>7096925
No problem. Since Powerslave seems to be the current topic, you should check out this video DF did breaking down every version of the game:
https://youtu.be/HCsO8O4W4Fw

People meme on John Linnenman but he makes good content with a more tech skew than someone like Civvie or what have you who also cover retro FPS (he does other games too though)

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:23:31 2020 No.7096942 >>7096937 >>7096939 lmao we linked the same video, it really is the best one on the game on YT though

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:24:05 2020 No.7096943 >>7095969 Smooth Doom isn't any kind of shader or filter, it's a mod that adds more animation frames, hence making things look 'smoother'

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:26:04 2020 No.7096948 File: 43 KB, 604x479, 1603993678730.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7096939 >John Linneman

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:26:47 2020 No.7096950 >>7096948 He's literally me

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:27:05 2020 No.7096951 >>7096943 Oh. It looks weird to me, I don't like it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:32:00 2020 No.7096964 >>7096310 It sounds like you aren't really familiar with how a court of law works.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:32:32 2020 No.7096965 is there a moon man monster pack wad?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:32:48 2020 No.7096967 >>7096310 Get out of here, Billy.

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:38:33 2020 No.7096982
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>>7094638
The Doom TC is called Return of the Triad and it kicks ass. Recommended. I just wish it was longer and it could be truer to the original in some ways. It was apparently made by the guys who went on to do Amid Evil:
Official site:
https://www.elzee.co.nz/rotttc/
Doomwiki Entry:
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Return_of_the_Triad
ICARUSLIV3S did a Doom Mod Madness on it:
https://youtu.be/eWtohkHlhZU
And there was at some point a project called Re-Return of the Triad that was supposed to make it truer to the original ROTT but doesn't look like it went anywhere:
https://zandronum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=1291

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:39:06 2020 No.7096985 >>7096909 I'm trying it rn and it feels like such a zoomer way to play. It's also lagging for some reason and the mouse movement feels weird. And even then, the music is still not working.

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:40:48 2020 No.7096990

>>7096951
Absolutely fair, I don't like it all that much either. I like smooth weapon animations, but for monsters it looks weird, probably because there's only 8 rotations.

There's real smoothness in the original Doom frames already, the frame offsets are just kind of sloppy, making some animations look more jittery than they really are. The Doom Spritefix Project addresses that (among a couple of stray pixels and stuff like that), and I think it looks way better than Smooth Doom's monsters, everything animates at the same speed and the same number of frames. Give that a try instead and see.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:40:49 2020 No.7096989 >>7096985 I am almost leaning towards playing it on fucking Saturn emulator after watching this video on it. So it sucks on BuildGDX?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:41:46 2020 No.7096993 >>7096251 You waited eagerly to pay for a game that you easily could have pirated?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:42:27 2020 No.7096994 >>7096990 Based post anon, thank you, and I will check it out.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:44:09 2020 No.7097001 >>7096993 Kek. He is just happy he can get it in a DOSBox wrapper. Seriously though, is the music a rights issue or something? Was it removed from the GOG version or is it just a bug for the anon having trouble?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:46:35 2020 No.7097005 >An anon tells me Dusk's music load time was patched out >Reinstall Dusk >It wasn't Fuck you dude.

Marisa Kirisame !!FrQCaIaTfJw Thu Nov 19 18:49:44 2020 No.7097010

>>7095490
GZDoom already uses asmjit. The speed gains with really complex zscript are very noticeable. But JIT isn't going to magically speed up everything, though, as most of the overhead you see in stupid maps like nuts comes from native code (mainly sight checks). There's also the fact every single actor executes over ten times more code each tic than in vanilla doom (plus physics functions like P_XYMovement also have extra added complexity).

But you speak of "threading" as the solution to everything. Well, anon, it's easy to talk and theorize about things you have no idea about. Your suggestion clearly shows that you've never worked with multithreaded code. I have, and it's one of the reasons why I no longer have any sanity left. Game engines don't work in a way that would allow logic to simply be multithreaded.

You've also mentioned lightmaps as a way to speed up lighting. That's not going to work on an engine like this, where all world geometry is mutable.

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:49:53 2020 No.7097012
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I fucking love that M60 machine gun sprite from Powerslave/Exhumed.

It was rumored Nightdive was going to do a remaster. Nothing ever came of that?
https://goodmorninggamers.blogspot.com/2018/05/Exhumed-remaster-nightdive-studios.html

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:50:54 2020 No.7097013 >>7097010 Fuck off tranny

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:50:59 2020 No.7097014 >>7096496 It's a shame that you have to experience it through EROTT, it'd been cool if the original game had a setup like that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:51:13 2020 No.7097016 >>7097005 They didn't patch out the fake DOS screen but the music loads damn-near instantly for me now on my shitty laptop. Sounds like a personal problem.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:52:12 2020 No.7097020 >>7097013 Prove him wrong.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:52:28 2020 No.7097021 File: 50 KB, 750x1000, ssrco,classic_tee,flatlay,101010_01c5ca27c6,front,wide_portrait,750x1000.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7097014 Indeed, and I do agree with you on that. I want this shirt.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:52:51 2020 No.7097024 File: 132 KB, 640x480, Revenant2.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7097016 aaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:53:30 2020 No.7097026 >>7097020 Hes right but hes still a tranny

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:54:17 2020 No.7097029 >>7097010 Based >>7097013 Not based

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:55:17 2020 No.7097036 File: 14 KB, 267x474, D3_Revenant.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7097024 Oi hes locked in the pisser innit

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:55:32 2020 No.7097037

>>7096638
He could dial it down a bit, I love ROTT, but he's being a bit too comm-bative and taking gay bait.
He should record some gameplay and then cut out fun and wild parts for short .webms, that'd be much more entertaining and sell the game better.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:56:50 2020 No.7097043 File: 43 KB, 320x320, 1379169-rott_char1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7097037 >comm-bative Oh I see you, I see you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:58:02 2020 No.7097050 >>7096989 Saturn version must be great if you like Metroidvanias. I hear it's much easier than the PS1's, though. I'm gonna play them once I'm done with the DOS one. Game's bitching so far.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 18:59:38 2020 No.7097057 >>7097005 >not retro

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 19:00:34 2020 No.7097061 File: 61 KB, 780x492, IsgfphK.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7097057

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 19:01:09 2020 No.7097062 >>7097036 ARRRRRRR

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 19:03:35 2020 No.7097070 File: 347 KB, 400x290, djdusjw.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just play Grafs sourceport, you'll love it I promise.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 19:04:02 2020 No.7097072 Why would the make a serious Sam collection and omit 2?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 19:07:28 2020 No.7097080 File: 1.51 MB, 300x235, tumblr_1124787173ac85357127fd962e3da2c3_26c7a35b_400.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7096813 Too bad you can't wield them akimbo like the pistols

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 19:11:42 2020 No.7097092 >>7096993 no not really i'm just happy now it'll possibly get more spread

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 19:12:08 2020 No.7097093 >>7097080 Nu Wolfenstein kinda does it, even if its MP45.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 19:12:36 2020 No.7097094 File: 32 KB, 258x387, Serious_Sam_-_The_First_Encounter.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7097072 Because its shit? Idk I don't really like any Serious Sam games except for based First and Second Encounter

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 19:12:44 2020 No.7097095 >>7097012 according to kaiser it's on the backburner for now

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 19:13:58 2020 No.7097098 >>7097072 They're embarrassed of it for the wrong reasons. 2's a great game

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 19:14:45 2020 No.7097104 >>7097026 I don't care.

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 19:15:04 2020 No.7097105

>>7097072
Because in Croteam's mind 3 is somehow better than 2, even though it's a giant pile of shit in comparison in almost every way. Playing TFE and TSE couch co-op with my friends will still be enough to justify a purchase for me, I just want the collection to do well enough for them to launch Sam 4 on console when it's finally finished.

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 19:15:19 2020 No.7097106

>>7097092
Yeah its ALWAYS a good thing when retro FPS get these official rereleases even if they bring nothing really new to the table just for the fact that it gets them back into the limelight and talked about to a certain degree, certainly more than they were before that and even make new retro FPS fans and that is always welcome.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 19:16:02 2020 No.7097109 >>7097094 YOU DID NOT JUST SAY SAM 2 IS SHIT

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 19:16:21 2020 No.7097110 >>7097104 Because you're gay.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 19:17:43 2020 No.7097116 >>7097109 I dunno its better than sequels.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 19:17:59 2020 No.7097118 >>7097109 I did and it is. Cope. Slower movement than any other serious sam game. Slow movement sucks in a shooter with large levels. Weapons lack any punch or feel to them at all.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 19:18:18 2020 No.7097119 >>7097110 I don't want to fuck any man or tranny, I'm just sick of hearing people talk about trannies. Go play some Doom.

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 19:25:34 2020 No.7097136

>>7097119
I'm almost 99% sure that tranny became a buzzword on this site because of the constant trap threads everywhere in /b/. This site is full of closeted homos and they ALL love projecting.
>t. actual tranny

Back to Doom, though! What are y'all playing? I finally decided to buck up and download Sunlust, wish me luck /vr/os.

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 19:32:12 2020 No.7097151

>>7097093
True. I really liked the first nuWolfenstein game. Haven't beaten New Collosus but it doesn't seem to have the same appeal for some reason. Wish they hadn't made that Youngblood abomination to sour everyone on the series. Never played the Old Blood or whatever, is it any good?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 19:33:25 2020 No.7097153 >>7097136 Dilate freak

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 19:34:54 2020 No.7097159 >>7097153 I'll dilate gladly

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 19:36:20 2020 No.7097165 >>7097010 >why I no longer have any sanity left dam

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 19:40:34 2020 No.7097180
File: 17 KB, 240x201, java-drpg-cyberdemon.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anyone know if the source code was ever released for DOOM RPG? It would be fucking awesome to be able to mod it with new textures and sprites, etc. You could make new DOOM RPG scenarios or even other shooter themed RPGs like a Blood RPG or Duke RPG in the same format.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 19:41:42 2020 No.7097186 >>7097180 >DukeRPG You're onto something, dude

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 19:42:07 2020 No.7097187 >>7097118 There's a good mod that remedies some of your grievances. https://www.moddb.com/mods/serioussam2renovation

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 19:42:35 2020 No.7097192 File: 244 KB, 876x1035, 1572273268251.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7097159 Repulsive, its a wound my man, mutilated cock is not a vagina.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 19:43:32 2020 No.7097194 >>7097159 >>7097192 Take it elsewhere you fucking retards. Jesus christ both of you are shameful.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 19:48:37 2020 No.7097209 >>7096948 That makes me feel bad for the guy. He sick or something?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 19:51:14 2020 No.7097214 >>7097194 >makes two posts >shameful I notice you didn't try to improve the thread with actual discussion despite bitching with everyone else. What have you been playing?

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 19:53:22 2020 No.7097224 [DELETED]

>>7097214
Because I'm not braindead enough to pretend making an offtopic post can be acceptable as long as you end it with something on topic.
If you really want to fix your posting habits, don't reply to me and instead just post something worthwhile to the thread rather than engaging in a retarded argument with me. Retard.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 19:58:35 2020 No.7097238 >>7097224 Diff anon here. You're still responding too. Feeding trolls encourages them and you're clearly old enough to know that already How's everyone's maps coming along?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 20:00:02 2020 No.7097247 File: 134 KB, 1600x1024, kSiQibw.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7097153 >>7097159 >>7097194 >>7097209 >>7097214 >>7097224 I'm sending you all to hell

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 20:00:15 2020 No.7097249 New bread >>7097239 >>7097239 >>7097239

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 20:01:40 2020 No.7097258 [DELETED]

>>7097238
I know I'm not contributing anything, I'm just fucking tired of people thinking they're in the clear for posting useless garbage just because they spoil it or finish it with something on topic. If we have any fucking sensible janitors paying attention they'll delete my dumbass posts and the other fucking trash posts in this thread, as of late nothing comes from it unless the thread gets REALLY bad. It's fucking awful.

By spoilering your offtopic content and then ending it with an ontopic post, you're arguably worse than a full on troll because you can't even commit to being on topic OR being a blatant shitposter.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 20:04:00 2020 No.7097272 >>7097258 >>7097258

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 20:04:51 2020 No.7097275 >>7097247 what did you do to Misri Halek you fuger?!

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 20:49:55 2020 No.7097439 >>7096985 Trying what, BuildGDX? On the same site as BuildGDX there's a music pack that you can download and just drop in the game folder and itll work. >>7097010 Doesn't Kaiser's Strife port have lightmaps? And some other Doom port called Vavoom?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 20 08:33:45 2020 No.7098712 word.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 20 08:35:02 2020 No.7098716 >>7098712 Nope

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