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7087706 No.7087706 [Reply] [Original]

Best emulator ever? Best emulator ever.

>> No.7087710

STOP MAKIJG THREADS

CRINGE BING CRINGE BING BING WAHOOO

OI ME SPECCY

Jet Set Willy is the based of the REDPILLED oomer boomer

monster energy drink

>> No.7087721

>>7087706
its not an emulator

>> No.7087726

>>7087710
You okay, man?

>> No.7087731

>>7087726
DIE /vr/ DIE

>> No.7087812 [DELETED] 

trump lost the election lol

>> No.7088136

it's not an emulator, but it's a really useful thing if you don't mind spending hours tinkering with it

>> No.7088273

Why is dolphin on retroarch so shit?
Is pcsx2 going to be the same?

>> No.7088426

>>7088273
it's not really, I've got it working a lot better framepace than the standalone emu

>> No.7088437

Since the thread is here, how is Retroarch's 4 player online gameplay when it comes to arcade games?

>> No.7088445

>>7087710
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VEmni_QzYk
is this you

>> No.7088451

>>7087706
Fuck zoomerarch and it's not an emulator neither though you've been told.

>> No.7088483

>>7088273
Dolphin core works ok for me, what's your problem with it? Aside from the missing rumble, that is.

>> No.7088513

>>7087721
you're right. it's 20+ emulators

>> No.7088527

>>7088513
not quite, Retroarch is simultaneously a front end and a back end for libretro emulator cores.

>> No.7088534

>>7088527
that's what i SAID. "20+ emulators"

>> No.7088537

>>7088534
Retroarch is not an emulator on itself, it's a utility to launch libretro cores

>> No.7088541

>>7088537
twen
ty
plus
emu
la
torssss

uh

>> No.7088545

>>7088541
brainlets normally have a hard time with retroarch

>> No.7088786

>Tedious manual autism for certain roms and all ios
Maybe good for playing 8bit and 16bit games only. If playing on PC I would rather have each emulator downloaded separately

>> No.7088908

>>7087706
Fuck zoomerarch and it's not an emulator neither though you've been told.

>> No.7088925

>>7088908
>zoomerarch
lol imagine being so filtered by a program you think only younger people use it
I'm sure you think ZSNES is still the best emulator out there

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>>7087706

>> No.7088953

>>7088786
Works on my iOS device

>> No.7089020

>>7087710
take your meds australia-kun

>> No.7089025

It's not an emulator in itself, OP. It's a frontend for the Libretro module system.
Having a whole bunch of quality emulators in a portable package though is very convenient.

>> No.7089052

I like it for the lower input delay and
>>7089025
univeral input mapping and shaders are very convenient.

But I couldn't figure out how to get it to apply PPSSPP texture packs. There was an option that seemed to refer to it, but turning it on did nothing.

>> No.7089069

>>7089052
The Libretro version of PPSSPP isn't a replacement for the standalone program. Standalone's overall better.

>> No.7089076

>>7089069
in what manner?

>> No.7089083

>>7087710
Stop pretending your jet set Willy shit is a meme, it’s not and we all hate you

>> No.7089090

>>7087706
Retroarch is a frontend. Mednafen is the best emulator.

>> No.7089093

confusing menus

>> No.7089095

>>7089069
Doesn't it have better shaders than normal PPSSPP? There's a cool "handhelds" shader folder.

>> No.7089115

>>7089076
Not him, but for me it's one of the few cores that feels more delayed than the stand alone.

>> No.7089130

>>7089069
Any other cores where stand alone is better?

>> No.7089142

>>7089115
You're probably using GL, it adds 3 frames on top of dx11, and it's the same in standalone.

>> No.7089145

>>7087706
bait?

>> No.7089160

>>7089115
it's the same in the standalone, it's a known issue with the emulator itself
>>7089130
probably a lot of the MAME stuff, but that's because of all the fuckery they do every time they update MAME

>> No.7089162

>>7089160
>probably a lot of the MAME stuff
Not really.

>> No.7089164

>>7089142
Thanks

>> No.7089172

>>7089090
Mednafen WITH Retroarch is best emulator
ftfy

>> No.7089173

>No PS2 emulator in it

lame

>> No.7089175

>>7089173
>any PS2 emulator ever
lame

>> No.7089186

>>7089142
DX11 gives me stutters.

>> No.7089189

>>7089090
In certain ways, the Libretro forks of Mednafen's modules are much more feature rich. Mostly where it comes to adding PGXP, texture resizing and overclocking.

>> No.7089191

>>7089173
They're actually working on a port of PCSX2 right now that's already showing promise.

>> No.7090104

>>7087706

https://twitter.com/libretro/status/1328772047170887681

RetroArch on Steam is now ready for playtesting! Click on 'Request Access' and you’ll get notified when we are ready for more participants.

>> No.7090106

>>7087706
It's pretty fucking great but it's not an emulator and while you do have to swallow some pretty ugly workflow/UI design to get low lag, shaders, and per game settings, it fucking delivers in the end.

>> No.7090118

>>7088273
All hardware accelerated cores except for Flycast and Beetle HW, and even they have their idiosyncrasies, blow in RA. They can't run ahead or rewind either. I really hope PCSX2 at least irons out the fuck awful judder and lag the standalone has, though.

>> No.7090131

>>7089173
I... it has Play!... it's shader cache-y with 2006 tier compatibility and runs like shit on everything, but it's there...
pls be gud PCSX2 core

>> No.7090139

>>7089076
http://nonmame.retrogames.com/

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>>7090139
huh?

>> No.7090146

>>7090142
they know there shit

>> No.7090148

>>7090142
Even as a total Retroarch faggot I can't really abide by that call. The core has always been laggy, out of date, and just doesn't work right in some games every time I've tried it compared to the standalone.

>> No.7090157

>>7090148
works on my machine mr total Retroarch faggot

>> No.7090159

I've never really understood the weird divide this program has caused. If it runs well in it, you should use RA as the shader/scaling/pacing/lag situation is best in it. If it doesn't just use the standalone. They still exist. You can and should use both depending. RA will never be great at GPU driven emulation.

>> No.7090161

>>7090159
>RA will never be great at GPU driven emulation.
Why?

>> No.7090163

>>7090157
It works but not as well. I remember it having a Darkstalkers issue that the current standalone had fixed way sooner, and it is laggier. Situation always improves, I'm sure, but it's not a shining example of libretro.

>> No.7090165

>>7090161
No run ahead, no rewind, lag seems to be a variable and not nearly as cut down as the software driven cores. Just various jank experienced from everything rendering from within RA's already GPU driven shader/scaling system. Vulkan Beetle and Flycast are good but everything else is skippable. I only use Mupen in Parallel mode.

>> No.7090186

I think I'm more excited for DOSBox Pure than the PCSX2 core.

>> No.7090187

>>7090165
This would've been a valid argument had standalone versions have these features.

>> No.7090193

>>7087710
it seems that you have drank too much of that wojack substance from the dank part of the internet.

please do stay away from drinking it

>> No.7090196
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>>7087706
It's the best last resort.

>> No.7090201

>>7090187
While I do like RA I'll be first to admit it kinda sucks to use. I'm used to it because I've used it for years, but it's much less compelling to recommend if it's in feature parity with friendly programs.

>> No.7090210

>>7090196
>MAME within RA
disgusting, one of the worst use cases for it

>> No.7090245

>>7090210
My MAME resets my gamepad config if its not plugged in when i start it. Retroarch auto maps instead.

>> No.7090257

>>7090245
You can life-hack around that by making the generic input configs read only, but it does suck ass. I remember MAME in older cores having its own input saving issues, but I imagine it's better now.

>> No.7090370

>>7090104
this is bad I think, I imagine nintendo shit will get pulled now

>> No.7090409

>>7087706
nah it sucks, only beetle psx hw is good

>> No.7090421

>>7087706
Why is Retroarch shilled so much in /vr/?
>"haha its open source xDDDD"
Still

>> No.7090426

Anyone using this on an nvidia shield? I'm pretty into it desu. I have it plugged into a 4k oled and figured out how to get the shield's UI actually rendering in true 4K. The results with shaders are honestly the best visuals ive seen from any emulator setup so far. I only have a composite cable for my dreamcast and just a ps2 for pirating ps1 games, so I honestly think I'm done with my original hardware/crt setup for those 2 systems. In a few years when theres a shield or similar device with a good enough processor to do modern games in MAME, ps2 etc? Whew

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>>7090104
>Steam
this is retarded

>> No.7090495

>>7087706
For generations up to 5 + dreamcast. Yes.

>> No.7090520

>>7087706
How to texture dump in PSCX2? I wanted to use a texture of a game in a wallpaper but I don't know how to do it.

>> No.7091005

>>7090104
I still don't understand Libretro's boner over getting this Steam version working. Like I just don't get it.

>> No.7091561

>>7088273
> Is pcsx2 going to be the same?
Worse. The codebase is completely fucked. They only just ported it to x64 architecture which has been standard for 15 years now.

>> No.7091567

>>7087706
I hate retroarch and how overcomplicated it is and how it steals away effort from standalone emulators that would have standalone debuggers and native UI.

>> No.7091583

>>7091567
>Overcomplicated
That's control. That's what having complete control over how your frontend feels like. Take some time to get familiar and learn the quirks, and you will never want to use Nesticle or VBA again.

>> No.7091587

>>7089025
>install lakka
>needs network access with other computers to paste psx bios in

shit's gay

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>>7088925
>>7091583
Some people aren't zoomer's so we want to press alt and see the file, edit, view, etc.

If it's not like this then fuck it.

It's one of the reasons people hate upgrading to newer software and also a reason to hate phone software.

>> No.7091617

>>7091603
You do realize it has support for that, right? Toggle desktop menu. Or did you get filtered that quickly that you didn't even bother to look?

>> No.7092048

What's the best CRT shader available for Retroarch?

>> No.7092052

>>7091583
No it's overcomplicated in the sense that you have an OS sitting on top of your OS for no reason

>> No.7092112

>>7092048
xm29+ royale

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>>7091617
>you didn't even bother to look?
Why would I want to look? The stand alone was fine and not looking like zoomer trash. What's the motive if the older emulators worked fine?

It's easier to keep a handle on older software too. I won't remember what to do about the cores. There are too many to know about. Stressful.

>> No.7092125

>>7092121
Filtering retards is a nice perk of Retroarch.

>> No.7092126

>>7092125
>>I use it because it's new!

Zoomers go hurrrrrrr

>> No.7092127

>>7092126
maybe you wouldn't strawman as much if you weren't such a retard

>> No.7092232

>>7087710
undeniably based

>> No.7092251

>>7087706
It's shit for MAME. Needs to reconfigure hotkeys so no redundant functions like save/load states, pause button. Also the escape key will fuck up both MAME and RA.

>> No.7092985

How come the 3DS version doesn't work?

>> No.7093097

>>7092125
do you also use iTunes over a normal media player like VLC
I really fucking hate that entire class of software.

>> No.7093297

>>7091005
I assume they have plans for monetization. Or that they want to kill other emulators in one swift stroke, going mainstream like this.
Or maybe, they wanna attract more devs.

>> No.7093305

>>7087706
It's the best in a sense that it's convenient where you have all the other emulators in one bag, but I still prefer standalone emulators since I mostly play romhacks nowadays.

>> No.7093340

>HOLY FREAKIN' CRAP LOIS, IT'S THE GUY WHO CREATED RETROARCH!
>*Peter promptly slugs him, knocking him out cold*
>AND THAT'S WHAT YOU GET FOR CREATING SUCH A SHITTY PIECE OF SOFTWARE

>> No.7093531

>>7087706
anybody know how to prevent the configuration from being cleared on the steam ver?

>> No.7093539

>>7087710
Fpbp

>> No.7093551
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>>7092127
So why do you use it other than the reason being that discord is popular and all your friends use it?

Generally popular things are shit. People hate npc/sheep/bluepills/normalfags/invaders/newfags for a reason. They tend to ruin shit.

I'm pretty sure sony is developing retroarch or the bios would come with it in lakka. Sony has flashbacks now after all, so they are going to do what any kike'd shit would do now days and take shit down, like with how emuparadise turned to shit over the nes-mini.

Yes, other emulators back in the day used to not come with bios often enough, people are even afraid to host hacks on sites of roms even more than actual roms, but you don't need two computers nor the Internet to paste the bios in.

Is retroarch all linux users? No, but after the shitty UI plus the lakka experience I really have no time for the overly large file that is zoomerarch. Bloatware. First time I tried it was on an android years ago and it ran slower than any other emulator could. Was unusable. I've hated zoomerarch for years. Is android bad to begin with? Yeah yeah, but I'm just saying fuck zoomerarch. It's not even about zoomerarch. It's about how ever single time I ever 'upgrade' something in the past 10 or so years, probably more like 15 years, it's been a downgrade in general. Software, OS's, websites, the whole enchilada. If they still sold cheap win9x computers I'd be using them and I am pissed that I have to use winxp and win7.

>> No.7093813
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7093813

>>7090245
>>7090257

Get you a stable remap going!
"What's the matter, boy? MAME forgot your buttons again? That sucks!" -"Tired of having to reconfigure your inputs all the time? You're about to lose it and ready to give up? Wait! There's yet hope."

Introducing:
By default MAME instantly resets any button configuration that is being loaded or currently in use if the specified controller is not connected or drops connection while the program is still being executed. Scenarios like this include a wireless controller going into sleep mode, a weak battery giving out during gameplay or a cable pulled too early. But there's a solution: Write your own remap file using a stable controller ID and MAME's devicemap feature today - MAME won't forget your buttons ever again!

How to:
1. Connect your controller of choice.
2. Go to Control Panel > Device Manager > Human Interface Devices > HID Conform Game Controller > Your Controller > Properties > Details > pick Hardware IDs from the drop down menu and note it down.
3. Write a text document like pic related to permanently map your buttons to player 1 using your controller's hardware ID*** (see 2nd post). Save as a cfg-file and name it a single word without any spaces or special characters.
4. Put the new cfg-file into a directory called 'ctrlr' inside your MAME program directory. Create it if it doesn't exist already.
5. Open mame.ini > Under section '# CORE SEARCH PATH OPTIONS' set 'ctrlrpath' to 'ctrlr'. Under section '# CORE INPUT OPTIONS' set 'ctrlr' to the name of your remap cfg-file. Leave out the file extension.
6. Delete 'default.cfg' in the 'cfg' directory of your MAME installation. Your remap is the new default now! This step might not be 100% necessary but it autogenerates a new one anyway if needed.
7. Done

>> No.7093818

>>7090245
>>7090257

>>7093813 continued

Result:
MAME won't ever forget your buttons again. Doesn't matter if your controller loses connection, goes into sleep mode, the battery dies or you pull the cable too early. It's Plug-and-Play now and will be recognized 100% reliably by its hardware ID.

Advice:
If you are using an 8-button arcade stick the layout illustrated below is highly recommended as it is the most suited default across all machines, offering you the NeoGeo 4-button top row and 6-button layout a la Street Fighter at the same time.

1234
4567

Note that none of this prevents you from making further adjustments to input settings on a per game basis from inside the MAME GUI if necessary. MAME creates a config file for every game you boot inside the cfg directory and those have precedence over the default which we have redefined here.

Documentation
https://docs.mamedev.org/advanced/devicemap.html

***DISCLAIMER (see 1st post)
Controller button names and enumeration as well as hardware ID will vary. Figuring them out is up to the user. It is recommended to create a game specific remap including all physical buttons first and using that as reference. It will be located in the cfg directory.

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>>7090245
>>7090257
all-in-one edit

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7093929

>>7091583
>Nesticle
Is this bait to fool zoomers? But having used Nesticle in the past, no Retroarch does not have a better interface. It's less complicated than absolute trash emulators like epsxe, but it overcomplicates everything else. Might be easier to understand than Mednafen that doesn't include a GUI, but I'd rather set up the real emulator than use the less accurate PCE-fast "core" for Turbografx games.

>> No.7093946

>>7093929
it has the accurate core too for pce

>> No.7093967

>>7090210
Sounds like a nightmare, especially for tards who throw a fit when you try to explain mame rom versions to them.

>> No.7094931

>>7087706
They better reduce the cores to the ones that are actually good. They have too many to choose from and some of those are already dead/obsolete.

>> No.7094936

>>7094931
You know which ones are worth using anyway.

>> No.7094971

Do retroarch threads always garner hundreds of replies because the devs use this board to shill it?

>> No.7094972

>>7094971
It's because it's good.

>> No.7094975

>>7094972
$0.01 has been deposited into your RetroArch Marketing account.

>> No.7095019

>>7093551
>So why do you use it
convenience
shaders
run ahead

>> No.7095175

They need to make a fucking release again soon, and stop wasting time "refuting" bullshit like this: https://www.libretro.com/index.php/setting-the-record-straight-on-cores-and-their-up-to-date-status/ . We all know you've had a problem in this area for *years*, SquarePusher. No one's buying the "It's all a big misunderstanding!" bullshit routine at this late date.

>> No.7095186

>>7095175
>nooooo stop calling out my bullshit
lmao cope

>> No.7095196

>>7090104
>>7091005
I actually like it, more streamlined and they would put more focus on cores that are actually developed and taken care of by the developers who do them. The only problem I see that will arise from this is that the development would be slower since there are technically two RetroArch that exists.
Outside the PPSSPP core, which else is "worse" than the stand alone anyway? That's the only one I use outside RetroArch

>> No.7095219

>>7095196
Base Dolphin is better.

>> No.7095230

>>7095219
In what way?

>> No.7095234

>>7095186
seethe

>> No.7095235

>>7095230
I just think it runs better from what I've tested.

>> No.7095365

>>7095219
I think YMMV on that, I used the base dolphin before I used the retroarch version and I didn't notice a difference.

>> No.7095430

Wasn't RetroArch hacked recently? How is it the best if it's vulnerable like that?

>> No.7095452

>>7095430
They've patched up all the damage done by the faggot that did it as of a couple months now. Got new servers and everything.

>> No.7095841

>>7087706
>>7087706
Why would I choose RetroArch, I only play DS using desmume/PSP using ppsspp/GBA using vba/SNES using a special snes emulator for a japanese game. Do I really need it?

>> No.7095914

>>7087706
i love this frontend. i use it via the command line through MaLa frontend. thats another frontend that doesnt get enough recognition. its not hard to customize and its not a stupid frontend like Hypersperg. you dont have to pay for it.
ok. discuss/flame/etc

>> No.7095924

>>7091587
recalbox <<<<< lakka

>> No.7095954

>>7095019
dont shaders negate runahead?
or you gotta have a really state of the art pc to play old games?