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what does /vr/ think of Shadow the Hedgehog? (the game)

>> No.7068417

Never played it but I know for sure the story is a good direction for sonic, because it's so off it's actually very funny

>> No.7068467

It's worse than 06. I could write an essay on how offensively fucking bad this game is, without even bringing up the premise and story.

>> No.7068485

>>7068414
this andsonic the hedgehog (the game) are things i'd love to play for once

>> No.7068510

>>7068485
Sonic 06 is one of those shitty games that's a load of fun to play with friends.

>> No.7068597

>>7068414
It's actually fun. Don't see why it got so much hate.

>> No.7068817

>>7068467
What's wrong with it? It looks like it plays like Sonic Heroes

>> No.7068878

>>7068817
It plays worse. It controls like dogshit on ice. The level design is awful, the physics are awful, every thing about the way it plays is dreadfully unfun, and the developers made every wrong game design choice you can possibly make. Most of the objective-based missions that don't involve merely getting to some point in the level require you to destroy a bunch of something or kill a bunch of something else, completely throwing off the pacing of the gameplay when you have to look for where those things are hidden. It's designed around this good vs evil choice system but regardless of your alignment you still get attacked by both sets of enemies, so there's no motivation not to kill them even if they're on your side. The hero ability, chaos control, is entirely useless for 99% of hero missions because it just takes you farther into the level when you're most likely doing a mission where you have to take out specific enemies or do something that the ability would skip over.

>> No.7069834
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7069834

Sunset Overdrive should have been Shadow the Hedgehog.

Sonic Unleashed shouldn't exist, we should have got Knuckle Adventure.

>> No.7069871

>>7068414
What about Shadow the Hedgehog (the hedgehog)?

>> No.7069886
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7069886

For me, it's the toilet seat gun

>> No.7069912

>>7068414
It was one of those games I had fun with when I was 11 but wouldn't touch now. Still find it funny how they made someone give a name to all 300-some combinations of cutscenes

>> No.7069915
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>>7069886
Reminds me of picrel.

>> No.7069937 [DELETED] 

>>7068414
Should be played only on Xbox.

>> No.7069991

>>7069937
GC version is better than xbox. xbox version obv runs better than the ps2 but the ps2 has 2 player and dual audio like the GC version

with that all said, this game is a wretched, putrid piece of garbage. an absolute turd like this anon said >>7068878 , but even thats just an overview. almost every moment of the game, unintentionally funny swearing animals notwithstanding, is a painful slog. in the span of a single year, this game and the horrifically unfinished sonic "06"are the one-two punch that made sonic the hedgehog into a joke franchise.

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>>7069871
I think he's unironically cool.

>> No.7071728

>>7068414
The core experience is trash, but the multiplayer was funny as hell, because you're basically ice skating with uncontrollable guns. I had a good time playing it with some friends

>> No.7072234

>>7068414

This marked the exact moment in time where Sega became irreparable, milking their franchise with a black hedgehog toting a gun. did he listen to rap by any chance?
you can't really hate on the weirdos who draw pregnant Sonic with a horse cock when Sega themselves whores out the IP like they did with Shadow.

>> No.7072328

>>7068417
It actually follows the lore of Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 quite well, unless you consider that off too

>> No.7072338

>>7072328
Not really, having a consistent story is cool, I just think the tone and dialogue doesn't feel right for a Sonic game
Then again, they were already foreshadowing this atmosphere with the adventure games anyway

>> No.7072345

>>7072338
Ah.. yeah, I get you completely.

>> No.7072346

I played Heroes and this back to back and it's honestly better than Heroes. It JUST manages to scrape a 3/10 for me whereas Heroes is a firm 2/10. That's on a normal distribution (bell curve) type rating system so both are awful.

>> No.7072465

Fun game. People blew things out of proportions because of the guns. It's edgy, but that alone doesn't necessarily make it a bad game.
With the exception of Mania, I had more fun playing Shadow than any other Sonic game since SA2.

>> No.7072621
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7072621

HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY SHADOW I GOTTA ASK YA SOMETHING

>> No.7072638

>>7072621
VECTOR TOLD ME TO FIND THREE SECRET DISCS. BUT LIKE... WHAT'S A SECRET DISC??????????

>> No.7072652

>>7068414
Not good, but not as bad as people say. People that say the edginess of it is unfitting forget that SA2 has heavy implications and plot relevance of the murder of a child. The gameplay isn't good, but it's not far below average either. It's definitely a weird game for the series but Heroes' "LET'S SHOW THAT CREEP THE REAL SUPERPOWER OF TEAMWORK" tone was way less fitting for what the series had established with the Adventure games than Shadow ever was

>> No.7073138

>>7068414
it was a good game that filtered a LOT of redditors.

>> No.7074435

>>7068414
Absolute fucking cringe garbage.

>> No.7074523

If you like this game, you'd probably like 06 as well.

>> No.7074528

>>7074435

It's like Sega hired a drooling 10 year old and asked him to create the perfect Sonic game.

>durrrr he has a gun!
>blblbl he rides a cool motohcycle blblbl
>He has a very dark and edgy past, and supah powahs!!
>DARKNESS BUT COOL!!

And back then I thought Sega couldn't sink any lower than they did with long legged basketball player Sonic and his human pals.

>> No.7074549

>>7074528
All I want is a shadow may cry game.

>> No.7074614

>>7068414
I think this was the first bad game I've ever played, up until then I didn't play many games, it felt like a fever dream unlocking a car and trying to drive it, it was like it was made of paper and the handling felt like it was digital, either you turn all the way or you don't turn at all

>> No.7074720
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7074720

It's unironically kino. The guns are fun and switch up the gameplay from Sonic's, the ten endings allow for more build up of your skills and allow for shittons more playtime, the story has a loveable nu 2000s edgy, bite to it, and the chaos powers are awesome.

The only thing this game should get criticized for is how it turned Shadow into the meme that he is today, but overall, this game is fucking great and I still replay it every now and then.

Take the CHADow redpill bros, and NEVER TURN BACK NEVER TURN BACK

>> No.7074740 [DELETED] 

>>7068414
Allowing the 6th gen here was a mistake.

>> No.7074751

>>7068414
Sega got high off toad balls and saw a gun on the street, the rest is history

>> No.7074757

>>7068414
haven't played it but it's probably a good game, with shitty branding

>> No.7074829

>Be Sega
>Create Sonic
>"You know what Sonic needs?"
>"A human girlfriend and a band?"
>"Nonononoooo, he needs to have a dark evil version of himself!"
>"Robot Sonic it is!"
>Not good enough..
>"Mecha Robot Sonic Mark 2 it is!"
>"Not good enough"
>"Evil pinkish/red Hedgehog who turns out isn't actually evil but still bothers Sonic?"
>"Not good enough"
>"Dark Hedgehog who's a motorcycle riding gun totin' clone badass with a dark tragic past?"
>"YESSS, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED!"

>> No.7075675

>>7068597
this

>> No.7075679

>>7074829
thanks arin hansen for your unfunny analysis

>> No.7075710

>>7068414
Sonic would have been way better today if this character was never created

>> No.7075718

>>7074528
>It's like Sega hired a drooling 10 year old and asked him to create the perfect Sonic game.
They probably did. This was peak cool in 2005 with alot of 14 year olds.

>>7074549
same

>> No.7075739

>>7074720
pure autism
anyone who thinks that the 2010's are the most satirical decade is underage
The only reason these old Sonic games are memorable is because of the camp and how janky they are

>> No.7075740

>>7074829
He's not a clone, dumbass
He's half alien, half hedgehog

>> No.7075786

The story and edginess are honestly the last of this game's problems.

>> No.7075792

Not retro

>> No.7075816

>>7074720
The person who made those shitty posts are underage and shame on you for saving them. Also kill yourself for such a cringe post.

>> No.7075834

Sonic Team wanted to see the success of Jak 2 but made an embarrassing mess instead

>> No.7075874

>>7074720
>the ten endings allow for more build up of your skills and allow for shittons more playtime
To be fair it's not really the endings, it's moreso the massive amount of levels and different paths to get to each one. There's a lot more cutscene variety considering each one has an opening and three ending cutscenes, where as the endings have you going against one of three bosses and the endings themselves are just Shadow going THIS IS WHO I AM while standing above one of three characters

>> No.7075970

>>7075740

oh yeah right, that's a lot worse.

>> No.7076026

I think I don't want to see this garbage on /vr/.

>> No.7076303

Shit, the evidence I needed to understand the sega I knew was far long gone.
Heroes already damaged sonic reputation, this was the coup de grace.

>> No.7076308

>>7068414
Not retro

>> No.7076390

>>7076308
I have some bad news for you, my friend

>> No.7076394
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>>7069834
>Sonic Unleashed shouldn't exist

>> No.7076517

>>7068414
I thought it was funny that the black sonic had a gun

>> No.7076547

>>7069834
Knuckles ins't allowed his own game after Chaotix happened

>> No.7076768

>>7075816
>This poster is buzzword! And buzzword buzzword buzzword! You should kill yourself for making such a buzzword post!
No faggot. This game is genuinely alright and the fact that you can't suspend your disbelief for anything shows that you're a cynical retarded adult.

>> No.7076783

>>7075739
>2010s are the most satirical decade
Never once said that tardy. Try reading the post again.

>> No.7076829

>>7076783
>this obsession with irony and this insisting on not taking anything seriously bullshit has to have been the worst trend to plague the 2010's

>> No.7076923

>>7076829
Thats not saying that 2010s was the most satirical decade you retard. Lmao.

>> No.7077264

>>7074720
It's a joke that this post hates the Avengers making jokes, because Shadow is like the Nolan Batman movies: using a cartoon character for children to tell a melodramatic story full of darkness to give the pretention of it being something worth an adult's time. Happy bright unserious shit for kids and chuuni melodramatic shit for kids are two sides of the same coin. They're both dumb.

>> No.7078258

>>7077264
So games like Mother 3 would be retarded under your own logic then? Because that game is given nonstop praise.

>> No.7078297

>>7078258
Mother 3 isn't happy bouncy constant jokes, and isn't chuuni dark edge. Its presentation is more nuanced and capable of ambiguity, and written by someone intending to tell that kind of nuanced story rather than someone intending to make the next part in a successful franchise for children. Maturity is a continuum, and M3 is closer down the line than fucking Shadow the Hedgehog. Hopefully someone who likes M3 would have the taste to start seeking more complex media, but I have no hope for the person saying that Sonic Adventure 2 is great storytelling.

>> No.7078319

>>7078297
The only thing that Sonic Adventure 2 suffered from was a bad dub. The games always had a hint of dark edge since Sonic 3.

>> No.7078332

>>7078319
If your bar for nuanced storytelling is Sonic 3, then considering SA2 "beautiful and touching" makes perfect sense.

>> No.7078336

>>7078332
Sonic 3s Japanese game manual has the entire chaos genocide story.

>> No.7078372

>>7068467
the game itself had more replay value than 06 because multiple branching path lead to various ending

>> No.7078391

>>7078372
I wouldn't consider a game to have "replay value" if it's so incredibly bad that I never want to play it again.

>> No.7078437

Imagine Sonic Adventure 2 but it's only Sonic levels and nothing to change the pace up. Vehicles and weapons are actually fun to use and the multiple paths a la Star Fox 64 make you replay the game.
It's alright but nothing special, if you liked the sonic levels of SA1 and 2 then nothing wrong with this game.

>> No.7078497

>>7078336
I would not say that a story about an empire of bad echidnas who tried to kill a bunch of blue babies in order to steal magic emeralds and were wiped out by the angry water monster who was upset at these bad guy baby killers is an example of nuanced storytelling, no.

>> No.7078765

>>7078336
Consider suicide.

>> No.7078789

>>7068414
>The game itself
It ran like crap on my ps2
>that image
an autistic guy stalked me and my gf

>> No.7078973

I've only played it a little but having stages be about more than just getting to the end feels satisfying for a character who is about more than speed.

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>>7068414