bad/inferior ports you enjoy

[Anonymous No.7064219]

Not sure why, probably because I grew up playing shit on the couch. Nostalgia goggles also make me prefer the N64

[Anonymous No.7064225]

Again, N64 nostalgia goggles. It does feel like a lot of care went into this one though, with the little extras like item randomizer

[Anonymous No.7064247]

>>7064219
What's inferior about it? The N64 port is great, I know some of the levels are slightly smaller.

[Anonymous No.7064302]

>>7064219
My favorite thing about these ports are Aubrey's music.
https://aubreyhodges.bandcamp.com/album/quake-nintendo-64-official-soundtrack

[Anonymous No.7064340]

Strider on turbografx. It was in development hell for 4.5 years, and has bizarre color pallette, missing music, 30 fps, and flicker

that said, the redbook audio and new stage are nice additions, and the new cutscenes are pretty

[Anonymous No.7064364]

>>7064247
Textures/resolution, and no real-time lighting like the Saturn version. Less legitimately: folks that swear by M&KB for control, or argue that the PC version allows for higher resolutions/improved textures.
I'm with you, though. I love it on N64, scanlines and all.

[Anonymous No.7064435]

>>7064219
saturn quake does it for me

[Anonymous No.7064449]

>>7064435
Saturn Quake is shit and people simping for it have never really played to the end

[Anonymous No.7064878]

>>7064435
Saturn Quake pushes more polygons than the N64 version. The N64 version had simplified levels and removes tons of level geometry. It also has that "smear vaseline all over your screen" blurriness effect caused by having to use low resolution textures due to the systems low amount of VRAM.

The Saturn also had better ports of DN3D, Powerslave, and Hexen compared to competing consoles. It's weird to think that if the Saturn version of Doom hadn't been such a clusterfuck it would have been the system to pick up if you wanted home console ports of classic PC shooters.

[Anonymous No.7064882]

>>7064878
>The Saturn also had better ports of...Hexen

Most definitely does not. The only console the game runs well is N64. And as a bonus, it has cleaner graphics.

[Anonymous No.7064893]

>>7064882
> Hexen N64
> Cleaner graphics

If by "cleaner" you mean "a blurry mess", than I will admit that the N64 definitely has cleaner graphics.

[Anonymous No.7064924]

I don't know what were they thinking, doing this port. But I played it a lot, mostly because it wasthe first contact I had with the franchise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5cxU1lwaJU

[Anonymous No.7064987]

>>7064364
M&KB is superior and all but people literally attended QuakeCon using flight sticks to aim back in the day. When it comes to aiming preference anyone attempting to claim a pc port from this period is "unplayable" probably never played the game.

[Anonymous No.7065368]

Played a bunch of the N64 versions of first person shooters recently, and was surprised by how actually playable they are, and how much I enjoyed them. The N64 stick makes aiming feel very smooth, while modern analogue sticks tend to feel more twitchy. It's not keyboard and mouse, but it feels good.

[Anonymous No.7065372]

>>7064893
Only the saturn haz rgb out of the box if that's teh question

[Anonymous No.7065407]

>>7064219
It's missing a lot of content and doesn't run great, but it was the first PS2 game I ever played and I played it before the PC version.

It also had this comfy song which I don't remember being in the PC version but maybe it was.

https://youtu.be/bYwa8v7GNNk

[Anonymous No.7065412]

>>7064364
It's weird that the levels are actually simpler on the saturn version. They cut down the geometry significantly on N64.

[Anonymous No.7065419]

>>7064364
It's weird that the levels are actually simpler than on the saturn version. They cut down the geometry significantly on N64. There's also a regular poster who spends all of his time trying to shit on the quake saturn port and has literally never played past the second stage in any episode.

[Anonymous No.7065427]

>>7064219
Inferior is a bit subjective because Quake 64 has an absolutely kino Aubrey Hodges soundtrack.

[Anonymous No.7065432]

>>7065407
I was pretty serious about the PC game on LAN houses back then. Then when I got my Dreamcast I would play it online all day long at home.
Somehow I could own everyone on the Dreamcast version even though I was playing on the controller.
Still crank it up on Steam every now and then when I want to get REAL angry about losing to the AI.

[Anonymous No.7065438]

>>7064878
The Saturn version has more simplified levels than the N64. It doesn't even have proper enemy placements for different difficulties, everything is the normal mode enemy spawns.

[Anonymous No.7065449]

>>7064219
I didn't play much Quake 3 on PC but I enjoyed the dreamcast port with my mates split screen

[Anonymous No.7065470]

>>7064219
The have nu quake for dreamcast now. Seems pretty good.

[Anonymous No.7065480]

>>7064878
LMAO. Kid, have you even played Saturn Quake? More fucking polygons? What are you smoking? The game doesn't even run on the actual Quake engine, every level and asset had to be approximated and run through a new engine because the Saturn couldn't handle anything that wasn't pseudo 2D. The fucking weapon model isn't even 3D, it's a 2D Sprite unlike every other version of the game. The levels are significantly scaled back, even compared to the N64 version. The only "good" thing about the Saturn version is the dynamic lighting effects caused by weapon fire. In every other way the game is inferior to all other versions and isn't worth playijg.
>Hexen Saturn better than N64
Okay, now this is a laugh riot. I like how you even used the de facto "vaseline" argument because you're never actually played the game. Fun fact: Hexen 64 is actually one of the few N64 games that gives you the option to turn off the "vaseline filter" in the options menu, so that argument doesn't work. Now putting aside the fact that Hexen on Saturn looks like complete garbage, runs at 8fps, is missing huge level segments and has no multiplayer, this version couldn't even manage to pull off fucking directional sprites for enemies -- that is, enemy sprites will always face you no matter what way you turn. This isn't even accounting for the huge graphical issues and bugs this version has. If you have somehow convinced yourself that Saturn Hexen is better than the N64 version, you are literally brain damaged.

The Saturn has two good shooters: Powerslave and Duke 3D. But the id shooters are notoriously bad and none are better than their N64 or PS1 counterparts.

[Anonymous No.7065490]

>>7065419
This is a blatant lie. E1M1 of Saturn Quake even had to add walls inside the central complex because the Saturn couldn't render it lmao. Every other level of the game is smaller and scaled back, meanwhile the N64 version has almost entirely intact levels with different textures and lighting effects.

[Anonymous No.7065492]

>>7065438
>The Saturn version has more simplified levels than the N64
This is a lie, the geometry in Saturn closely matches the PC version (there is likely some deviation here and there.) This is the anon who has never played past the second map in any episode. Do not listen to him as he has a weird, obsessive vendetta against the Saturn. You can see the Saturn version is higher poly in the first room alone.

[Anonymous No.7065498]

>>7065492
Saturn Quake is objectively simplified to shit compared to the N64. You can stop lying now, everyone here clearly knows the truth.

[Anonymous No.7065507]

>>7065492
>This is the anon who has never played past the second map in any episode. Do not listen to him as he has a weird, obsessive vendetta against the Saturn.

Lol you predicted it. This is so bizarre. I do agree with him about Hexen 64 being fun though.

[Anonymous No.7065536]

>>7065498
>>7065507
t. assmad Saturn autist. I own every version of every Quake game ever released and the Saturn version is a piece of shit. Lower poly count, runs 5-10fps if you're lucky, dark and muddy as fuck, weapon sprite is 2D, enemy models look like shit and were slowed down to compensate for dpad aiming, no multiplayer, the list goes on. You must have been real thirsty for a good shooter in 1997 to cling to this fecal turd.

[Anonymous No.7065542]

>>7065536
There's one loser on this board (and /v/) who has been trying desperately to convince people this is the best version of Quake. Yes, even better than the PC version.

[Anonymous No.7065543]

>>7065492
So this is the power of the Sega Saturn...

[Anonymous No.7065554]

>>7065536
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR8Uv7i4GSE

Saturn looks clearer to me.


I mainly played Hexen on 64 though due to multiplayer.

[Anonymous No.7065558]

>>7065554
I don't give a fuck what looks "clearer" to you retard, you're ignoring the fact that you can turn off filtering on the N64 version and that the Saturn doesn't even have enemy sprites lmao. Stop huffing farts.

[Anonymous No.7065560]

>>7065543
Looks comfy

[Anonymous No.7065561]

>>7065560
>I like eating shit
Said like a true 76 IQ Saturn cultist.

[Anonymous No.7065562]

>>7065558
You lost dude, get over it and move on. Next you're gonna tell us Playstations Xmen Vs Street fighter is superior to Saturns.

[Anonymous No.7065567]

>>7065543
There are actually less Shamblers in the Saturn version thanks to it only having enemy spawns for normal mode even on higher difficulties. They live up to their name in the Saturn port too, like most enemies in that version they are really slow.

[Anonymous No.7065571]

>>7065561
Why so negative? Just enjoy your video games.

[Anonymous No.7065573]

>>7065562
I wouldn't know because I don't play capeshit fighting games but what I do know is that the Saturn can't pull off id software games and you are quite possibly retarded

[Anonymous No.7065574]

>>7065562
Hexen on Saturn is just shitty. N64 at least runs better and can be played 4 player co op.

[Anonymous No.7065575]

>>7065571
He cannot accept he's wrong. Give him time.

[Anonymous No.7065580]

>>7065567
If I remember right, itsnt it impossible to surprise an enemy in Saturn Quake? It feels like they're always in alert mode even if they're not pursuing you, like SNES Doom.

[Anonymous No.7065581]

>>7065575
assmad samefagging is not a good look. sorry I pooped on your favorite childhood game.

[Anonymous No.7065582]

If nothing else Saturn has this which is pretty awesome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4lCaLsoYxg&ab_channel=NOrepU8TON

[Anonymous No.7065583]

>>7065580
That would explain why the second level is such a clusterfuck when you spawn.

[Anonymous No.7065590]

>>7065581
You're paranoid dude. Did a Saturn steal your girl?

[Anonymous No.7065597]

>>7065582
>the best thing about the Saturn version of Quake is that it has a secret area where you can view screenshots with comic sans captions on them
lol.

[Anonymous No.7065602]

>>7065590
t. no argument. Stay mad saturnfat

[Anonymous No.7065605]

>>7065597
fucking zoomer
http://www.dankandscud.com/issues/

[Anonymous No.7065609]

>>7065605
Only a zoomer would play the Saturn version of Quake because everyone else was playing the PC game.

[Anonymous No.7065629]

Love me Saturn Quake, don't mind the n64autist, he's just mad he's bad at quake and doesn't know where the nightmare secret is!

[Anonymous No.7065638]

>>7065629
Apparently you're not very good at Quake either because you're not even playing Quake. You're playing Powerslave with vaguely Quake-like art assets and music at a blistering 5fps.

[Anonymous No.7065640]

>>7065638
>blah blah blah
just shoot and move, dammit!

[Anonymous No.7065647]

>>7065629
>bad at quake
Strong words coming from the guy nearly dying in that gameplay.

[Anonymous No.7065648]

>>7065640
>just shoot and move
Ironically those are two things you can't do at the same time on the Saturn version LMAO

[Anonymous No.7065657]

>>7064878
Powerslave on Saturn isn't a port. It's the original version.

Well technically the DOS version was made first but Saturn was released first and is a different game.

[Anonymous No.7065660]

Unreal Tournament on Dreamcast.

Some of the exclusive maps are really fucking good.

[Anonymous No.7065662]

Why do people praise the Slavedriver engine?

[Anonymous No.7065669]

[Anonymous No.7065671]

>>7065647
Nightmare is finally tough on Saturn, Lobotomy improved the game! Much better than those boys at id.

>>7065648
What, you only have one hand?

[Anonymous No.7065678]

>>7065671
Jesus Christ even when trying to make the game look good you struggle with the horrible controls. Now you're resorting to ironic shitposting as a cope for getting exposed.

[Anonymous No.7065683]

>>7065407
The superior version

[Anonymous No.7065684]

>>7065671
You only have half a brain? The controller only has a dpad, you have to toggle between vertical movement and vertical aiming. You can only move and shoot simultaneously if you use the analog pad and even then, it's a left-handed control scheme with awful button layout.

[Anonymous No.7065689]

The PS2 version of Turok: Evolution looked, ran, and sounded like shit compared to the Xbox and Gamecube versions, but having the ability to gib nearly every enemy was fun as fuck.

[Anonymous No.7065695]

>>7065683
That's basically a console port of UT2K3. Not the same game at all but it is a lot better generally.

[Anonymous No.7065696]

>>7065662
It was faster and more suited to the hardware in ran on than simply porting over BUILD. You can see the later in the PS1 game Duke Nukem: Total Meltdown.

[Anonymous No.7065707]

>>7065684
Look at this kid! Doesn't even know how to strafe. This is why you can't figure out how to use a controller.

[Anonymous No.7065716]

>>7065662
Here's the thing about the Sega Saturn... see, it only sold 9 million units and basically nobody outside of autistic Japs actually bought one. As a result, it had very few worthwhile games, and most of those games were 2D titles. The slave-driver shooters are some of the few semi-competent 3D experiences on the console. Sega autists quickly clung to these games because, despite being shit in comparison to other games of the time, they are sadly some of the better experiences that this awful console has on offer.

[Anonymous No.7065719]

>>7065707
Strafing? You literally can't look up and down while moving forward. You are brain damaged little guy.

[Anonymous No.7065724]

>>7065719
You know Quake has more movement than forward/backward, right? In fact it's not a great idea to move forward/backward in combat. I mean you at least know this much, right? Cmon kid don't give up on me yet.

[Anonymous No.7065728]

>>7065724
This game is not Quake and you are retarded. Good day.

[Anonymous No.7065729]

>>7065728
Poor thing doesn't even know what Quake IS. What a weird little kid. Stick to twitter, ok champ?

[Anonymous No.7065732]

>>7065662
The engine is a marvel for the time(and its platform). The guys at Lobotomy really knew the hardware in and out.

[Anonymous No.7065738]

>>7065716
Do you feel above other people because of the video games you play?

[Anonymous No.7065743]

>>7065732
>The engine is a marvel for the time
Only within the context of the Sega Saturn attempting 3D.

[Anonymous No.7065749]

>>7065743
Of course, the Saturn's a 2D console. Any 3D on it is immediately more impressive than a console built for 3D acceleration.

[Anonymous No.7065756]

>>7065749
People praise the few playable 3D games on the Saturn like people praise special ed children.

[Anonymous No.7065758]

>>7065756
Sure, kids like you deserve to feel good too.

[Anonymous No.7065782]

>>7065470
Quake live? Certainly not quake champions.

[Anonymous No.7065785]

>>7065743
>Only within the context of the Sega Saturn attempting 3D.

No, it's a marvel in any context. Powerslave was being developped at the same time as Quake.

[Anonymous No.7065786]

>>7065785
True, pre-Quake 3D in games was more a novelty like star fox.

[Anonymous No.7065789]

>>7065662
The AI of the enemies and weapons and everything is indeed inferior in the Saturn version of the game.

Has nothing to do with the "engine" itself though.

[Anonymous No.7065790]

>>7065743
Wow you're a bitter SOB

[Anonymous No.7065795]

>>7065790
anti-saturn posters hate fun. See how they ruined this thread? It went from "hey these games aren't perfect but I enjoy them" to "these games are the worst things ever done by man. If you enjoy them, you are complicit in their crimes against humanity."

[Anonymous No.7065802]

>>7065785
It's not even close to a "marvel" when compared to Build.

[Anonymous No.7065807]

>>7065802
meh, not 3d.

[Anonymous No.7065810]

>>7065802
Do you still play games or is complaining a full time activity for you?

[Anonymous No.7065814]

>>7065810
He's on here 24/7 to counter someone who:
-finds a flaw in the n64
-praises the saturn
-doesn't love his webms he constantly reposts
I wish I was kidding. Dude doesn't even have a job.

[Anonymous No.7065815]

>>7065789
Because Saturn Quake isn't really Quake - the entire thing was rewritten to try to put it on Saturn. It's amazing they got it running at all, but it's sort of like one of those early "Super Mario Bros." ports on PC... it's really a different game and doesn't feel right.

[Anonymous No.7065819]

>>7065810
You think these webms came into existence by magic?

[Anonymous No.7065826]

>>7065819
anon you recorded these years ago. Don't you play games? Do you wanna talk?

[Anonymous No.7065830]

>>7065826
I recorded these particular ones on May 15 2020.

[Anonymous No.7065834]

>>7065830
Half a year with no games.

[Anonymous No.7065849]

>>7065834
I don't make webms every time I play a game, I don't even record gameplay every time I play a game.

[Anonymous No.7065850]

>>7065849
get off 4chan for a while.

[Anonymous No.7065883]

>>7065542
Jesus

[Anonymous No.7065887]

>>7065583
>>7065567
>>7065543
Someone is really trying to push this as not fucking garbage? For what reason?

[Anonymous No.7065894]

>>7065542
I'm sure this is how fast Quake shareware ran on my 80486

[Anonymous No.7065897]

>>7065887
For what reason in the first place?

[Anonymous No.7065915]

>>7065897
Huh?

[Anonymous No.7065936]

>>7065915
What?

[Anonymous No.7065951]

>>7065936
I mean the port looks like fucking dogshit. You'd have to be crazy to say it looks good That's all.

[Anonymous No.7065952]

>>7065951
>>7064219

[Anonymous No.7066050]

>>7065554
Play the fucking game
The Saturn port sucks if you actually play it instead of looking at screenshots and videos
The N64 port uses the real Quake engine
The Saturn port uses an engine developed for ports of build engine games. It was intended for quirky 2.5D games.
Is it impressive? Of course. But it plays nothing like Quake and it shows in later levels where the challenge becomes more intense.

[Anonymous No.7066073]

>>7066050
>The Saturn port uses an engine developed for ports of build engine games.

Wrong.

[Anonymous No.7066092]

>>7066050
>it plays nothing like quake
ok?

[Anonymous No.7066115]

This thread is like monkeys throwing poop at each other

[Anonymous No.7066121]

>>7064449
I'd get out my saturn and take a pic of my completed save but I'm too lazy. The isn't easy though I'll give you that.

[Anonymous No.7066184]

haha cannot believe my og saturn post caused all this shit-flinging between the saturn and n64 versions of the game.

There used to be a wicked video on youtube comparing e1m1 on both systems and it did a good job at showing how poor a job the n64 port did at textures and polygons at points. Not saying that saturn port is the best because it really isn't but it shows how much attention was put into it compared to the n64 version.

Pic related

Someone here mentioned the saturn not having multiplayer. Well if it was going to play anywhere near as crap as the n64 multiplayer than I'm glad it didn't

[Anonymous No.7066190]

[Anonymous No.7066197]

[Anonymous No.7066209]

>>7065850
Likewise, sport.

[Anonymous No.7066217]

>>7064219

Shitty controls aside, I really dig how it looks. 4player deathmatch was really fun too.

[Anonymous No.7066220]

>>7066184
There's a certain subset of posters who are highly volatile when there's any praise leveled at the saturn or critique toward the n64, gotta say quake is the perfect powderkeg for this.

[Anonymous No.7066224]

>>7066217
Forgot to mention its Quake 2 for playstation

[Anonymous No.7066226]

>>7064893
Except that they are very clean and you can see distant detail. Saturn (And playstation) versions are true to the PC original: distant objects are an indistinguishable mess of shifting pixels.

[Anonymous No.7066231]

>>7066224
There's a nice patch which gives this version of the game modern controls.

[Anonymous No.7066248]

>>7065542
It's neat that it's running as well as it is, but theres no reason to play that if you have any other version.
Although people say the same about the doom SNES port, and I play that sporadically anyway so... Who am I to judge.

[Anonymous No.7066250]

>>7064893
I remember trying to play hexen on n64 at a friend's house and hating it for some reason. Maybe the controls were shit? I don't recall.

[Anonymous No.7066284]

>>7066197
>SNK isn't even working on it, handed off to some shitty US Nintendo studio
>Screen is smaller, but the enemies still spawn like an NES, so you constantly get attacked off-screen.
>Completely changed the fucking music
Seriously, why change the music? The NES music is awesome.

It sucks that it's a botched port. Crystalis is an awesome game that deserves more love.

[Anonymous No.7066334]

>>7065554
Think the actual game looks better on the N64, though the sharper text and menus look nicer on the Saturn. Seems like a lot of N64 issues would be solved if developers used the filtering more selectively, rather than just lathering it on everything.

[Anonymous No.7066356]

>>7065554
>Saturn looks clearer to me.
Are you blind or something? This is a screencap from that video you linked.

[Anonymous No.7066361]

>>7066334
Saturn also suffers from the same issue the doom port on snes had with only being able to view the front of enemies.

[Anonymous No.7066386]

This would have been my go-to console version if it had music, but as it is I'd have to go with the unlockable Wolf 3D on RtCW Xbox.

[Anonymous No.7066392]

>>7065554
>Saturn looks clearer to me.
Of course it looks clearer - it's a bunch of sharped squares just like the PS1. The N64 anti-aliased it all in hardware to give a much more natural look.

[Anonymous No.7066498]

>>7064364
It's baked coloured lighting is awesome though

[Anonymous No.7066680]

>>7066190
>Gets hit with "dirty disk error"
Shit gave me compulsive game saving anxiety.

[Anonymous No.7066684]

>>7065470
?

[Anonymous No.7067125]

>>7066356
>>7066050
Thumbnail speaks for itself.

[Anonymous No.7067178]

>>7065695
I remember there being a later unreal for consoles. This would be the 3rd one and not the single player ones. Was there another unreal that was online multiplayer before unreal 3 ? Not the two we just listed.
>>7065782
NuQuake is a port of quake 1 for dreamcast. I saw it on reddit. Seems legit.

[Anonymous No.7067357]

>>7065602
t. also no argument

[Anonymous No.7067513]

Graphics weren't as nice as PC, but new missions with Cate wearing a new outfit were enough to get me to bite.

[Anonymous No.7067537]

>>7065819
>>7065830
Why are you comparing a 133MHz Pentium to 2 x 25MHz SH2s like besting that hardware was a feat? There was a minor price difference at the time and by minor I mean major.

[Anonymous No.7067541]

>>7064225
>they didnt put the first one on 64
wtf was their problem

[Anonymous No.7067550]

>>7067541
RE2 is the best Resident Evil. All others are inferior.

[Anonymous No.7068938]

>>7064225
The EX-Flies too. But as you said it, lots of care went in, especially in the technical side of things. They fitted even *most* cinematics in a 64mb cartdrige.

Had they put Duke64 on a similair cart, they would have had space for all the levels (Ep. 4 too) all the soundtrack, the Build editor and 3 to 4MB to spare for custom maps.