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DOOM THREAD / 90s FPS THREAD - Last thread >>7052335

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE/HERETIC/HEXEN/ETC
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other 90s FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Thief, Deus Ex)
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz
-Album of infographics with setup information and user-made content recommendations

Same thing, but in video format:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ietb4JwaaXA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGj4gXyCzg0

IWADs and more (>6 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Classic Quake Trilogy pastebin (Updated 2020): https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhU
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Doom, Quake, Douk, Blood, and more)
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA
More /vr/ shooters
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ppJLNvQEPfP4FsOCQBak1TMvPUIswCac
Doom Shovelware
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Xy-YDWytlEa2CS9rit-PUgcieh4MrGzR
FTP archive for old stuff Fileplanet
https://www.quaddicted.com/files/mirrors/ftp.planetquake.com/

Doom RPG series
https://mega.nz/#!Y7AjEawA!Ta2RQuOC235v0wQoLtVR7HJoN7bsiawkujSlq8A1Da4

== INFO/LINKS ==

OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/yzwgaLp7

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
https://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS

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=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
500ml of /vr/
BETA >>7043379

=== NEWS ===
[11-6] Guncaster 3.777 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=37066&p=1172380#p1172380

[11-4] Faithless (Heretic megawad) - beta released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/117375/

[11-4] Wadsmoosh 1.3 released (can grab intersmission screens from Unity ports)
https://jp.itch.io/wadsmoosh/devlog/192878/wadsmoosh-1

[11-2] 2048 unit of /vr/ is out on idgames (clean / with guns / only guns)
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/2048vr_v1.4
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/2048vr_v1.4g
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/combos/2048guns

[11-2]DBP 29 - Morbid Autumn Released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/117873/

[11-2]Anons creates unused texture resource for Quake games, also added fixed .fgds for Trenchbroom regarding Quake and Quoth.
https://www.quaddicted.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=4211

[10-31]500ML /vr/ Halloween Beta Released! >>7043379
https://archive.org/details/500ml-vr-halloween-beta

[10-31]GZdoom 4.5 has been released(x64 only)
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=70459

[10-30]Kojima's PT remade in gzdoom.
https://batandy.itch.io/gz-pt

[10-30] Mystery of Red Island demo
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/117504/

[10-30] Hexen turns 25! Anon shares their folder of Hexen wads to play.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/0f63jfeuqhtl0re/hexen.rar/file

[10-29] Somewhere in Nevada 0.03 alpha
https://anonymousfiles.io/VwBCcwUZ/

[10-29] vkQuake updated
https://github.com/Novum/vkQuake/releases/

[10-29] ter_shibboleth got a redux version with a conversion to the Drake mod
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/ter_shibboleth_drake_redux.html

[10-29] Zero Master beats Plutonia on Nightmare in 34:28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLLQ06vzt28

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://pastebin.com/PZDkqABT

TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST.

>> No.7059493

i thought generals belonged in /vg/

>> No.7059503
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Been digging into alot of obscure retro FPS after the anon posted a list of every FPS released in the 90s by year in the thread before last. Today I checked out Liquidator 3D, a Russian Build Engine game I never knew about. That's why I love old school shooters, there is always new stuff to discover.

I know there are a lot of Russian and Eastern European anons in this thread who may have played it back in the day. For those or anyone else who had played it, thoughts?

The music is actually really good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeCBkVX5yto
The theme kicks ass:
https://youtu.be/XPjThxI9HnI

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Reposting from previous thread. I made one of two possible options for MAP29 in a community project. Will have to decide whenever to go with it or another submission. This is the probably final version, with difficulty flags:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/fqpau9nxpo56t2t/MAP29.wad/file

Boom format, tested in PrBoom+ 29th slot. Would really appreciate more feedback.

>> No.7059541
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7059541

Alright, ill bite, what's with the heavy breathing and farting at this level? Is that...anal sex?

>> No.7059546

Which is the best 1997 fps?

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You will know what to do when the time comes.

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>>7059503
Now it reminds me, did you know that Blood had two Russian localizations?
First one was pretty straightforward, except for swapping cultists voice lines to gibberish in Ukrainian.
But the second one, oh boy, was known as "Lenin, First Blood" with minor custom textures, very off voice acting and a lot of bad jokes about communism, Russia, booze and so on. You were playing as Lenin, of course.
There is also very obscure Ukrainian localization which had surprisingly funny voice line replacements too.

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That's it...?

>> No.7059571

>>7059568
The 90s and 2000s seems like a very interesting era for bootlegging and Eastern Europe/Russia, a real wild west, sorry, wild east. Some people just translating (doing either a poor job, or a surprisingly competent job), and then you have weird shit like that.

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Ok, now that I'm done. Seriously what the fuck did I play?

>> No.7059574
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random invisibility power-up at the end of this level, after you've killed practically everything.

>> No.7059575

Is post mortem just extra levels or does it have a story?

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>>7059570

>> No.7059584

>>7059575
Yeah, it has basic story but without cutscenes.

>> No.7059589

>>7059570
Yes, Tchernobog is surprisingly harmless even at max difficulty.
On other hand, bosses in the Post Mortem are much harder.
Also, don't forget to play Cryptic Passage and Dead Wish.

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/doom/ dating sim when?

>> No.7059612

>>7059609
No Wang?

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this cutscene is silly.

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7059639

Could kotel ne gori be considered a boomer shooter?

>> No.7059640

>>7059639
Is this more of that tripe that's made in the Godot engine by that Russian schizo?

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>>7059612

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>> No.7059650
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>> No.7059680

>>7059484
>Not "QUESTIONABLE ETHICS"
SOILED IT

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>>7058791
Yes. Might be troublesome for open space where she's got her helmet on so I might have to get creative or just save that for death mugs.
>>7058810
Yes.
>>7058234
Yes.

>> No.7059686

>>7059639
Not sure what the fuck im looking at but im guessing no.
>>7059650
I gave up on this game at the mirror level because the level design sucked and there wasnt enough ammo, does it get better?

>> No.7059701

What are some good sound fonts you can find online? Or anything that replaces the instruments typically found in one with others? For example piano->organ, guitar->banjo, etc. stuff like that.

>> No.7059703

>>7059701
Regression fm. It's like a beautiful marriage of midi and adlib.

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>>7059686
No.

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>>7059485
At the start of October a few of us who made maps for 2048 units of /vr/ decided to make a project for NaNoWADMo, a Doomworld initiative to make a mapset in October.
We're a long way off the megawad we hoped to achieve but we've released a demo of what we have while we keep going to the end of the year.
So, here it is: the October demo of Temporal Tantrum!
The demons have stolen a time machine from UAC and are attacking humanity at different points in time and space.
The demo consists of eight maps. Difficulties range from easy to very hard but be warned, the last three maps are much harder than the first five.
This demo is MBF-compatible, uses the Doom II IWAD, and was tested in PrBoom, complevel 11. It adds four new enemies (melee revenant, evil marine, astral cacodemon and diabolist) as well as modifying the Spider Mastermind.
As this is a demo and is early in development, only some maps have difficulty levels implemented. This is specified in the readme.
WAD link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SwZYe-AC7sBnzJsdKsWVAeRm5s3UMd3a/view?usp=sharing
Doomworld thread link: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/117972-nanowadmo-temporal-tantrum-wip-october-demo/

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>>7059714
basically, the game is only worth playing if you enjoy the art and music.

the take-away from this is that Mcgee is both a bad game designer, and a filthy fucking save-scummer, because there's no way you can do any of these levels or bosses in a single segment.
(can't believe they gave him a damn sequel.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siDD2amDQUY
THE END

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>>7059531
If this is the final version then why do you want feedback? I Played your map last thread, If you want feedback, you have to actually ask for it.
I appreciate the thinning and spacing out of the archviles since last time it felt like spam and I especially appreciate making the bfg secret easier to hit. I think all the changes you made from last version are for the better, except that 7 cacos failed to teleport in this time.
Aesthetics wise, I think the textures change too often for such a small map, making it look incongruous. It could use a stronger visual theme to pull it together. The various phased lights looked good however, and all the voodoo magic tricks were neat.
This map is pretty difficult, which is usually what people want from a penultimate level, just be aware. I wasn't able to beat the ending battle without using the invulnerability secret on UV.

>> No.7059798

>>7059541
Have you looked at the map? Have you read the wiki page? If you look at the map, it should be pretty clear.

>> No.7059803

>>7059485
Repost from last thread because I forgot to link it to the news:

Small update for the alpha; did some fixing in the levels, improved code in a few places. Apart from that I will probably not be able to post any progress this weekend as I have hit mappers block on the current map and kinda lack the drive to start another one (enough ideas exist).

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wwczt9xghhxh8ph/JUDGEDOOM.zip?dl=0

>> No.7059809

>>7059787
I want to gauge more opinions on this map since it's competing with a another for the Last slot. And I'm trying to get nudged.

Lol at cacos, didn't see it coming but makes sense in retrospect.

>> No.7059841 [DELETED] 

I've played Heretic 2 (quake 2 engine) and I saw some transparent root and vine (fence) textures I would like to use. I can extract the regular icons/sprites/textures from the game with SLADE just fine, but those fence textures I just can't find. How to extract textures from a .bsp2 format? Texmex kicks the bucket with a memory error.

I've seen some root textures in Arcane Dimensions and Unreal, but what are some others? Stuff that would go well with an abandonded temple?

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>>7059841
I don't think Heretic 2 stores textures in its bsps
seems like those vines could just be models. take a look in /models/objects, the .m32 skins seem to be what you're after. Noesis supports .m32, and it seems to be a simple enough format.

>> No.7059860

>>7059841
also, the vines constantly used in Q1 maps are from Daikatana, fyi. Rune might have some, also.

>> No.7059861

Would Marathon be more popular had it released to PC since the beginning?

>> No.7059890

>>7059531
I gave it about a half a dozen attempts, but consistently either got ammo starved in the starting room or killed by the Archvile trap. I give up.

>> No.7059916

>>7059890
If you are Quick enough you can kill one vile with rockets and get a lot of breathing room. Or pick up blue key and get invulnerability if you are into this sort of things.

The starting room is low on ammo but it's not terrible demanding. You don't need to kill revenants yet.

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>>7059859
Yeah, I just found them under models/objects/moss with slade. I overlooked and spoke to soon.
Thanks for the suggestions!

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>> No.7059926

>>7059925
Wouldn't she be heavily heaving at this point?

>> No.7059929
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>>7059926
Saving that for 25 percent. Has to be the same number of frames for each damage stage.

>> No.7059930

>>7059929
nice.

>> No.7059932

>>7059929
BOOBA

>> No.7059937
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ALRIGHT YOU FUCKERS. IT'S THAT TIME OF THE WEEK AGAIN. TIME TO SHOW US WHAT YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON. SPRITES, MAPS, MODS? LET'S SEE IT.

SPRITENOOB'S ALREADY GOT THIS STARTED. WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF YOU

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also leftside damage sprites

>> No.7059941

>>7059938
That's a really good animation there. Like that has a good sense of impact.

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>>7059937
So, what I was up to all these months? I've been going through some important stuff in my life namely, I reinstalled Fallout:NV, so I was unable to work on my project. More importantly, I was thinking hard over the direction I should take the project in, and I've made some radical decisions - for one, I just couldn't find a way to make magic system work in current setting and context, so I scrapped it entirely along with inventory. I will keep the fantasy setting, though. Gameplay-wise I'm thinking about doing something similar to first-person Metal Slug (which, as I realized, would have certain similarities to RoTT) - you will have infinite-ammo sidearm, grenades, and you will be able to carry up to three heavy weapons such as HEAVEE MASHEEN GUNS and RAWKIT LAWNCHAIRS. Enemies will be a mix of vehicles and fodder infantry - no hitscanners, though. Right now, the big question is how do I approach level design - making a linear run-and-gun levels is an obvious solution, but I want to avoid it. Since I already have some enemies, as soon as I make some more guns, I will start experimenting with level design to produce a gameplay prototype.

>> No.7059962
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Guys, anybody here played AvP 2000 Redux mod? Is it good?
Haven't replayed this game in many years and I wonder if it's a decent mod to play it with.

Ideally I'd just go with AI upscaled textures, but I think nobody did those for AvP

>> No.7059965

>>7059954
Good to see you're still alive. Thrilled how it will turn out.

>> No.7059985

>>7059685
Dayum, i have to say, you really are JAMming alright!

>> No.7060006

Can you plug up leaks in Trenchbroom/Quake with brushes that are triggers? Please say yes.

>> No.7060009

7 maps into speed of doom damn this wad kicks ass maps 5 6 and 7 all stellar shit really

>> No.7060031

>>7060006
Tested, didn't work. So I beseech you this, Trenchbroom gurus:
1. Is there a way to make a brush transparent and able to plug a leak? And by transparent I mean the player can fall through it, but the brush is not water.
2. Is there a way to force axe spawn only, no shotgun for id1 and/or Quoth? Some kind of worldspawn setting, or would I have to do QuakeC?

>> No.7060032

>>7060006
nope
only solid sealing geo

>> No.7060038

>>7060031
1. invisible - yes (with skip texture), non-solid - no
2. there are ways to take away weapons or ammo, but only through hacks, I'll have to check for specifics.

>> No.7060039

>>7059503
>Liquidator 3D
Isn't really obscure since so many people did videos on it.

>> No.7060040

>>7059541
You sound like an idiot, really.

>> No.7060042

>>7059572
You are hopeless.

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>>7060031
here's one way to do it, works in vanilla and quoth

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>>7060031
and then you do this to take away the weapon itself as well

>> No.7060065

>>7059962
Yeah its decent. AVP is always fun I like it more than AVP2.

Check out Alien Eradication as well.

>> No.7060076

>>7060038
>invisible - yes (with skip texture), non-solid - no
That might work for what I have planned. Forgive me, but I can't seem to find the skip texture online, or in Trenchbroom's interface. Where would I get it? Or do I somehow assign a brush this texture manually?
>>7060047
>>7060051
That worked, holy crap. Thanks.

>> No.7060101

>>7060076
it can be any texture named "skip", rip it out of some other map/wad or just duplicate and rename one of the textures in your existing texture wad.
I suspect skip isn't actually going to solve your problem, it's used for other things generally. what are you attempting, with the leaks? why can't you use a regular texture or sky instead?

>> No.7060102

>>7060065
Thanks, will use it then.
Yeah, I planned to play A:E too, looks great

>> No.7060112

>>7060102
I thought it was an afterthought mod for DOom.

But the motherfucker did amazing levels with great design. Deserves money.

Its like a magnum opus AVp\Alien Trilogy dream.

>> No.7060117

>>7060101
>it can be any texture named "skip", rip it out of some other map/wad or just duplicate and rename one of the textures in your existing texture wad.
Sweet.
>what are you attempting, with the leaks? why can't you use a regular texture or sky instead?
There's an arena, and to provide the illusion of an enormous void, I am giving the four walls and the ceiling a void skybox. But I don't want to make the arena itself very large, so my goal here is to make a small gap between each of the four walls and the floor the player is on with this skip textured floor. What I wanted to do was make the player fall through it, but that's not possible without foregoing vising. So instead I'll make the floor a teleporter and do something else instead.

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>>7060117
yeah, I still don't get it. it's not a given at all that a particular engine will draw sky behind skip - it might draw nothing, or HOM, or who knows what.
again, why not texture the bounds with sky? you can make it as large or small as you want, it will look seamless.

>> No.7060145

>>7060134
Well it didn't draw anything, that's true. I need to rethink how to do this.
>why not texture the bounds with sky? you can make it as large or small as you want, it will look seamless.
The arena isn't very large, and the player will be using most of it. If they run into the sky, and the sky is a wall, it sort of ruins the façade. Thanks for the suggestions, and definitely thanks for helping me with axe starts.

>> No.7060169

>>7059609
ngl i like the idea of prettyboy caleb

>> No.7060176

>>7059484
I can't get quake's music to autoplay with quakespasm. Any help? It's in the correct spot I think, id1/music. They all have the correct names. I can manually play them in console it just won't play on its own.

>> No.7060180

>>7060006
What prevents you from just putting your whole level into a box?

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>>7060180
I'm quite new at this.

>> No.7060198

>>7059861
Yeah. Bungie made it Mac exclusive during the worst time of Apple.

>> No.7060225

>>7060176
Did you enable external music?

>> No.7060314

>>7059685
Jaw-dropping!
>>7059720
Looks a really fun wad.

>> No.7060346

>>7059861
Yes.

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>>7059937
Is it that time of week already? I'm making a boat level for Doomworld's boat project

>> No.7060370

>>7059484
>Questionable Choices
>Not Ethics
I'm disappointed in you OP.

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>>7059685
DELET THIS

>> No.7060424

>>7059503
I think it is somewhat neat, a lot of the enemies and items have some odd quirk about them.
The level design, other than being somewhat confusing, can get really annoying at times. For example, the first level require you to find a key in a secret room, and another level has a door permanently closed behind you upon walking over a non-obvious trigger, thus soft-locking the game.
Still, Liquidator is one of the more interesting Duke3D TC's I've played.

>> No.7060541

I don't think I ever beaten Plutonia on UV. Should I do it, or play Scythe on UV instead?

>> No.7060570

>>7060039
Really? I saw like 2 videos and I think a lets play of it when I searched it on YouTube, seems obscure as fuck.

>> No.7060576

>>7059503
The first song linked is funky as fuck, makes you wanna dance

>> No.7060593

>>7060541
Give it a spin, try it out with the Plutonia midi pack.

>> No.7060663

>>7060006
Theres no reason you could possibly need to seal a leak with a transparent or translucent brush. Unless you were trying to make the Quake version of lilith.pk3.
>2. Is there a way to force axe spawn only, no shotgun for id1 and/or Quoth? Some kind of worldspawn setting, or would I have to do QuakeC?
Google "Quake maphacks". I've never done it myself but I've read there's a workaround to take the player's shells on map start.

>> No.7060801
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7060801

Has there ever been a Twin Peaks themed Doom mod? I feel like that would be nice.

>> No.7060826

>>7060801
Eviternity has a track that practically reeks Angelo Badalamenti, closest thing I can think of. An abstract lodge-themed wad could be really interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2uzvmam1SQ

>> No.7060830

>>7060801
I wish remedy did more slow paced either survival horror or just adventure games.

I mean I love max payne, but its a missed opportunity and honestly their console shit is just wasted like recent control.

>> No.7060891

>>7059609
Maybe this could fit with DOUK and Gordon, but last time i checked 'Caleb', 'Doomguy' and 'bishie pretty boys' DO NOT fit together in the same sentence!

>> No.7060917

>>7060801
damn fine midi anon

>> No.7060918
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Anybody here work with textures?
I'm looking for tips and tricks.

Or even if you don't, what are some of the core things you mappers look for? I find myself getting sidetracked a lot.

>> No.7060919

>>7060917
meant for
>>7060826
obv

>> No.7060942

>>7060541
Both are good and worth playing. Just flip a coin.

>> No.7060970
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>>7060801
I made this room for 500ml/vr/ but never finished the level (would have been an easter egg in an otherwise unrelated level anyways).

>> No.7060983
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>>7059484
Any SCP-themed WADs for Idtech1 games or Build engine games?

>> No.7061008

>>7059861
I hope Marathon gets some love. I just finished the first game and the story fucking blew my expectations and I can't wait to jump to 2 and Infinity.

>> No.7061023
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7061023

What a ride that was. Time to move onto Plutonia 2.

>> No.7061053

Glad to be know we all agree over Dark Forces II being the best 1997 fps.

>> No.7061131

>>7060039
Who has done videos on it? I know Civvie hasn't covered it, I can't even find a single video review on YouTube, just gameplay vids without commentary.

>> No.7061160

>>7061131
He's talking out of his ass. There's no reviews of this game, only longplays. Also I'm Russian and I only learned about this game when I was browsing Russian-made titles on my favorite abandonware site. The only notable thing about it is that it was produced by Akella, the same company that made Postal III. I don't know why it is getting so much attention in this thread, it's just an illegally published shovelware game. If you want some proper Russian first-person kusoge, at least try Dungeons of Kremlin series.

>> No.7061206
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7061206

Finished Quake 2 in 2 evenings, it was a blast. There're some annoying quirks, such as very slow weapon switch or projectiles going through enemies if not shot on lower half. But still, clear sense of progression is what kept me interested. There's always a context, some objective to work towards. Pretty much HL1 before HL1 itself.
Guess it's time for expansions. Are both of them good?

>> No.7061225

>>7061206
They're good but if I remember correctly they have slow starts

>> No.7061261

>>7061206
my dude, those will be a hell of a ride on nightmare.

>> No.7061267

>>7060918
>I'm looking for tips and tricks.
With regards to what exactly?

>> No.7061275

How do i use the bar that gets added when i pick up the BFG in GMOTA

>> No.7061282

>>7061225
>>7061261
Think I'll go with The Reckoning first. Interesting to see Xatrix's work before Kingpin and RTCW. I guess there'll be a lot of hitscanners.

>> No.7061285

>>7060970
Wasn't that already in Ion Maiden?!

>> No.7061290

>>7061275
I think it's enter.

>> No.7061332

is kegan okay?

>> No.7061343
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>>7061332
I'm fine. Slax's passing fucked me up pretty bad but I'm working on getting my ass back in gear with things.

>> No.7061354

>>7061343
Hey man, your works are the best. Can't wait to see some standalone games from you someday.

>> No.7061361

>>7061285
Wouldn't be surprised, didn't play it though.

>> No.7061362

>>7061343
hope it goes well man, my condolences with your friend

>> No.7061369

>>7060801
>>7060826
Map 30 theme from the Plutonia Midi Pack reminds me of the Twin Peaks intro theme a bit.

>> No.7061370

>>7061354
I'm trying my damnedest to make shit good before I move onto that, I still got a lot of work to do.

>>7061362
Thank you, he was a great dude, and I'm gonna miss him.

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7061371

Finally back to working from home again so maybe I can get some time to make a new map soon.

>> No.7061372

So can anyone explain the difference between Clusterfuck and all the other clones? Whats the difference between it, LSD, Pandemonium (I think?) And Complete Chaos?

Is one version better than the other?

>> No.7061397
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>>7060225
Yeah I did. Any ideas guys? Don't know what I'm doing wrong here. I've got all the mp3 and ogg tracks in quake/id1/music and they all have the correct names, track02, etc. Quakespasm is in my /quake/ folder. I even have tracklist.cfg in /id1. And like I said I can make it play manually with console commands. It really sucks playing Quake with no music.

>> No.7061412

Slax?

>> No.7061419
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>>7059937
Slowly putting together a Hideous Destructor weapon skin pack, decided to replace the medikit's staple gun sprite so it looks more like a telescopic syringe device and less like a car battery with a pistol grip.

>> No.7061463
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7061463

>>7061412
Spriter and artist. Would occasionally drawfag here.

Here's sprites he made for an Algimec, which is an obscure and completely generic 9mm carbine of pretty much zero note, but it happens to look vaguely like the non-descript rifle that you see Doomguy and the Zombiemen carry, and looks Doomy in its overall aesthetic. I brought that up once, and he posted some stuff for it, this sprite, as well as some drawings, he was thinking of using its appearance for a sci-fi rifle once.

>> No.7061465
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>> No.7061467
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7061467

I'm just gonna post some doodles Slax has done

>> No.7061469
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The gun in question. With its chunky plastic furniture, big carry handle, and gray phosphated sheet steel body, it really looks at home with Doom's aesthetics.

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>>7061467

>> No.7061478
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>>7061467
>>7061472
I welcome that, I have no more of his stuff readily at hand, and I think some people have no idea some of the stuff he actually made which got posted a bunch.

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>>7061472

>>7061478
He's drawn a lot of goofy shit over years, I'll just keep to doom stuff

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>>7061480

>> No.7061485
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>>7061481

>> No.7061489
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>>7061485
I can keep it coming

>> No.7061490

I barely scraped through the last 10 levels of Scythe 1 on UV, should I just play other big wads like going down/ancient ayylmao/eviternity on HMP?

>> No.7061494
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>>7061489

>> No.7061498

>>7061490
No. It'll put hair on your chest and you will get better in the long term.

>> No.7061501

>>7061490
Yes, doing harder custom maps nosaves on UV can be really unfun unless you're a total beast and don't mind replaying a lot of a single level due to eventual fuckups/RNG. You can always go back and play the ones you liked on UV via IDCLEV, it's what I do.

>> No.7061512

Which Blood do I download if I want to get into it? Fresh Supply or the original game?

>> No.7061515

>>7061490
You can start with a couple of those on HMP, gradually you'll get better. In case you haven't seen this one yet, it has some great tips: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJcf0aOwmiA

>> No.7061520

>>7061490
All of those are more difficult than Scythe, so if you didnt have fun on UV you should probably switch.

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>>7061494

>> No.7061536

>>7061512
You get the OG files and a source port like NBlood or BuildGDX. Im sure an autist will tell you which is better ATM.

>> No.7061539

>>7061160
>Dungeons of Kremlin
Is it an FPS?

>> No.7061542

>>7061206
And another BASED QUAD MACHINE is born.
https://youtu.be/Z6VpX-feA2M

>> No.7061546
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>>7061526
He's drawn a LOT of goofy shit involving Arti but I don't want to spam anymore, so this is the last one out of me

>> No.7061549

>>7061512
Fresh Supply is fine for any layman, but just be aware that due to Atari's stranglehold on the Blood rights, FS will not be getting anymore updates, while BloodGDX can be updated forever.

>> No.7061553

>>7061206
Quake II ain't bad at all. It's my ultimate go-to when I'm truly bored. Good enemy variety, fantastic super shotgun, and an amazing soundtrack.

>> No.7061559

>>7061160
I knew of this for years. Not obscure in any way. It's also pretty shit.

>> No.7061563

>>7061361
It was
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KGr3OUQ6fI

>> No.7061579

>>7061549
>>7061536
Alright, thanks. I'll go with One Unit and a good sourceport instead of FS>

>> No.7061585

In light of Wadsmoosh's recent update, does anyone have the unity i/wads available? I'd like to have the widescreen assets but lmao fuck giving Bethesda money for their port.

>> No.7061610

>>7061585
I think the recent version of GzDoom has its own widescreen assets for some iwads. I think the new ports are only 10bux together though (with all the expansions and map packs being free), and they're actually vanilla accurate. I suppose you could pirate the new stuff.

>> No.7061618

>>7061585
You don't need to buy anything. You can download the widescreen .png's yourself and put them in wads using Slade. Do a search for doom widescreen assets

>> No.7061705

Playthrough video of map09 of 1994 tune-up community project is up. A huge level with architecture that reminds me of Lunatic or other Skillsaw maps. Spent like 4-5 extra minutes looking for the last secret like a dumbass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0qC6ikMT50
And the original that was used as a base.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jm0P4JO6lVY

>> No.7061710

What are some good weapon additions for somebody that's never used anything besides finaldoomer?

>> No.7061732

>>7061710
Combined Arms, but they're super OP so balance them out with Colorful Hell. Ditto for Dakka.

There's also a mod called Babel which doesn't really add weapons, but changes the way the normal ones function, along with changing enemy behaviors. I thoroughly recommend it.
https://babel-mod.neocities.org/

>> No.7061735

>>7061732
I wouldn't call them super OP. Though the default set is fucked at the moment.

>> No.7061767

>>7061735
>Triple rocket launcher
>Loading five shells at once
>SSG shells turn into little spiders you can blow up at any time
>That nailgun
Combined Harms does nothing against these weapons, although I like the EYE enemy sounds.

>> No.7061768

>>7061732
https://allfearthesentinel.net/zandronum/download.php?file=smwgmpkuacultrafixv2.pk3
old but very good

>> No.7061785

>>7061767
That's why I said the default set is fucked. I'm trashing most of that with this update, nerfing others. The triple rocket launcher is gone, the five shell thing is staying, though it's power has been reduced, the SSG spawns less caltrops, and the nailgun is just gone.

>> No.7061807

>>7061767
also I still need to give the monster set a different name because vocally discussing Combined_Harms just causes confusion, talking about it in text is confusing, and abbrevating it is confusing because it starts with the same letters as Colorful Hell.

I'm not sure what the fuck I was thinking when I named the monster pack that.

>> No.7061882

>>7061768
>Can't fire dual-wielded weapons simultaneously
ONE JOB

>> No.7061941

>>7061053
This is /vr/, no way the autists here will admit it’s anything other than muh Blood. That said Jedi Knight is awesome and may be the correct answer. Doom 64, Goldeneye, Shadow Warrior, and the Quake Mission Packs are up there too.

>> No.7061942

>>7061512
Fresh Supply comes with the core game, so you can use it with sourceports like GDX anyway. That said, GDX felt a lot better to play through.

Unrelated question: Is the Life Leech's primary really this useless? The altfire can be great for a few areas, but since the primary no longer drains health it just feels incredibly underpowered, unless I'm doing something wrong?

>> No.7062023

>>7061942
The Life Leech's primary saps away some of your health when it runs out of ammo. That said, I feel like it's not as effective as sapping enemy health as it did before.

>> No.7062032

>>7062023
Its damage is absolutely awful though, and the primary wastes ammo faster than the secondary half the time. Tesla cannon basically makes it just feel like a wasted weapon slot by comparison.

>> No.7062038
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got around to playing Unloved, kinda silly how at one point jumping is progress-critical, yet at others it doesn't expect you to jump over obstacles.
or was there another way of getting the playpen card?

>> No.7062085

>>7062038
unloved is a master piece man.

>> No.7062208

>chaingunner ripping through a cacodemon in flawless victory

hmmm... tastx

>> No.7062239

>>7061539
It is. Someone even made a remake recently, but unfortunately they have chosen the worst possible publisher for their game, who managed to get his entire library get nuked on the Steam.

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>>7059612
Wang would be your mentor, since he's the old pervert.

>> No.7062243

>>7059612
Wang was supposed to have sister named No Wang.

>> No.7062343

>>7062240
>Imagine being so much of a simp that you rip out your beating heart to hand it over to a naked anime babe

>> No.7062370

The 3 greatest Shadow Warrior maps are Bath House, Water Torture and Monastery Gardens (Wanton Destruction). Agree, Y/N?

>> No.7062381

>>7062343
It's not his heart though. It's an instant threesome device.

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>>7059484
The game with a hypermasculine protagonist gains popularity from a lot of anti-Trump incels over the world, what a surprise! Why don't these Twittranies cancel Doom first since it has "hyperandronormativity propaganda"? Because all of Doomworld is a fucking hypocrite. I kinda wish Doom stayed obscure without Bethesda milking the cock and making it burst with pure seed, as if a metaphor for new "fans" of Doom being born.

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>>7062476

>> No.7062485

>>7062480
>>7062476
Yep, it's time to go hom and play a nice relaxing game of solitaire.

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Is there any way to get blood on android? There's magic dosbox, but it hasn't been updated in years and it hard to set up.

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>>7059937

>> No.7062637

I wanna play some DBPs but I don't want to dig through all of them. What are the best ones?

>> No.7062645

That which I love most, is that these "violent videogames" KEEP THE DRAMA HELL & ALL DAT SHIT, the "violence", IN THE BOXEN. NOT out on the streets. It's like, war, but with no real loss, except for passing time. I love taking on Hell Itself rising up against me, but not in real life, more like inside the simulated modeled imaginary world. There is something about the various Caco Daemonia asploding that makes me moist ^.^ I think it's great to have these sorts of games around. Personally I couldn't shoot a shotgun shot at a flying target from 40 feet away as of yet, but I'm good with my hands. I find it alot more enjoyable to NOT have to do so, but there are times when you must strike Lavos at the core, or take out a cosmic horror with The Power of Prayer, or pop a spider cyborg final boss with a bunch of guns.

>> No.7062658

>>7062603
Poke a hole in your finger.

>> No.7062736

>>7062603
>playing a game like Blood ob a touch screen
You're either a masochist ot a straight up madman.

>> No.7062754
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>>7062736
it's decent for doom/quake. only real downside is that it can't handle heavier mods/wads.

the apps, (delta touch/quad touch), are only ~$3 each, and have 7 sourceports.

would recommend looking into if you wanna play doom on your phone.

>> No.7062817

>>7062370
It's been too long since I played through the OG campaign, but one of my favorite levels in recent memory is the riverboat assault in Twin Dragon(?) I dig Hara Kiri harbor for the boat too.

>> No.7062856
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Not sure if this is the right place to ask,i tried using a old dbz mod from a video yet when the weapon fires the screen flashes (and that will for sure kill my eyes real fast) is there any way to remove this? i am looking it up in slade but no success so far

>> No.7062891

>>7062856
Link?

>> No.7062893

>>7062891
https://youtu.be/QEdyOuXHlm0
sure a newer one exists but its so flashy that it makes my fps tank and the weapons are clunky as fuck

>> No.7062907

>>7062893
Seriously? The flashes are just weapon sprites right there in the wad. All you need to do is replace them.

>> No.7062909

>>7062907
Ah i assumed it was a bug,my mistake,thank you anon

>> No.7062937

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqFM5ZLmflM
not even Doom can escape the VHS filter

>> No.7062987

I'm currently giving Faithless a go. From my initial experiences, gameplay is feeling like it wants to be more slow-paced in some ways, which I'm not ragging on. It's something different. Or I just haven't bothered to hold the sprint key and still able to play perfectly fine at the beginning areas.
Kinda having fun.

>> No.7063128

Wolfenstein but in actual 3D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCjVx1iPOBg

>> No.7063145

>>7062239
Oh god it looks fucking horrible

>> No.7063337

>>7062370
Keith Schuler's levels: Master Leep's Temple, Bath House, Auto Maul, Water Torture

Dark Woods of the Serpent and Floating Fortress have some annoying moments, but they are good too.

>> No.7063379

>>7063128
Wait it's actually 2.5D, nevermind.

>> No.7063425

>>7063337
Auto Maul, really? To me that is a classic example of the secret level just being a mediocre map they didnt think was worthy of being in the main campaign. Like Freeway in Duke 3D.

>> No.7063436

>>7062645
Take your meds.

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Is there any way to play this yet with a fuck tonne of issues (despite using dgvoodoo)?
>awful frame pacing
>cursor stuck in middle of screen
>audio skipping
>broken mouse input

>> No.7063461

>>7063436
kys

>> No.7063468

>>7062645
Are you okay anon? Try again tomorrow.

>> No.7063473

>>7062937
This looks really fucking good

>> No.7063483

Aside from Trespasser and HL2 which other retro fps have physics?

>> No.7063487

>>7063483
painkiller

>> No.7063493

>>7063454
wait until you try blood 2

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>>7063493
>build engine

>> No.7063502

>>7063498
>Blood 2
>build engine
you're not a very bright boy, are you?

>> No.7063504

>>7063493
oh wait wtf its lithtech
which is why you mentioned it
nevermind im retard
>>7063502
no im not

>> No.7063506

>>7063504
You're honest at least. I respect that.
That old Lithtech engine was a fucking enigma

>> No.7063509

>>7063504
yeah, it and Shogos engine are very similar since Blood 2 was rushed
I think its the worst because even if you like some element of the game it just crashes like 50% of the time so you cant even appreciate it.
My friend dug Shogo though but he just had to compensate with the tech issues.

>> No.7063550

>>7063509
>>7063454
Maybe they shouldn't have rushed to beat Half Life and Unreal.
Dummies.

>> No.7063570

>>7063550
It was the publisher's fault. And the publisher wouldnt even give them money to patch the game post-release.

>> No.7063613

>>7063493
Don't try Blood 2.

>> No.7063625

Is there a way to set relative paths for resources in UDB?

>> No.7063735

>>7063454
Shogo and Blood 2 are trash. It's not solely a "Lithtech 1 on modern hardware" issue. These games were a chore to play back when they came out.

>> No.7063770

>>7062937
>not even Doom can escape the VHS filter
and that's a good thing

>> No.7063797

WHO WANTA SOME WANG?

>> No.7063814

Ultima Underworld and System Shock bros....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jflI-riB4To

>> No.7063823

I just finished Going Down and I'm interested in playing the first Memento Mori, is it true that it's impossible to solo it?

>> No.7063827

>>7062937
>>7063770
I don't understand people's infatuation with making things look like shitty old VHS tapes, I grew up with the format, and I didn't like the clunky pieces of shit or their rapid degradation in quality as a kid, and I like them less now.
Is this like with chromatic aberration, where hipsters intentionally apply what was originally considered an undesirable flaw to make their work look worse and more difficult to interpret, because they think making it look like garbage on purpose makes it come off as 'authentic' or something?

>> No.7063846

>>7063827
Cool, you are so progressive. How can anyone measure up to that. Wow

>> No.7063854

>>7063846
He's right though, VHS sucked compared to DVD, let alone what we have now.

>> No.7063857

If Shogo is so bad then why the theme song is used in a F.E.A.R. easter egg.
Checkmate.

>> No.7063858

>>7063854
Call the popo, I don't give af.

>> No.7063863

>>7063846
Progressive? What?

>>7063854
It sucked compared to Laserdisc, which is still cool.

>> No.7063875

Videotapes were so shit. I am so glad we moved on from that format.

>have to rewind them
>the picture quality is shit
>picture wears out
>muddy sound quality
>accidentally tangling the tape
>bulky and annoying to store
>shit getting jammed in the VCR slot
>mom taped over your favorite video

>> No.7063880

>>7063814
Interesting, to say the least. However, its more of a game that uses Raycasting than Ray Tracing, let alone the Build-Engine levels of slope rendering.

>> No.7063881

>>7062937
Looking good anon. I'm slapping VHS filters on all my 3DCG stuff for Instagram and reddit. Brings in the views.

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>>7063875
You can feel the steam coming from this post. Anon is seething.

>> No.7063889

>>7063880
Please, just stop...you are embarrassing yourself.

>> No.7063893

>>7063875
they have their advantages compared to discs though

>quality degradation just leads to a slightly warped picture instead of permanently freezing and rendering the movie unwatchable like on dvd/bluray
>no obnoxious proprietary firmware keeping you from skipping commercials
>recording whatever you want off tv was as easy as possible. afaik there was never as a convenient way to do this with discs

also back in the crt days a dvd hardly even looked any noticeably better than a vhs tape. i remember it pretty much felt like watching a vhs tape but with a menu and bonus features

>> No.7063894

>>7063875
>have to rewind them
Understandable.
>the picture quality is shit
Eh, I disagree. Its not shit, but still inferior to Betamax and LaserDisc, especially when it first came out.
>muddy sound Quality.
Understandable to a point
>picture wears out
Depends on how often and constantly its used.
>accidentally tangling the tape
THATS ON YOU!
>shit getting Jammed in the VCR slot
That happens from time to time, and it happens less often if you don't fuck around with the inners of either the VCR machine or the tape
>mom taped over your favorite video
NOT MY FUCKING PROBLEM!

>> No.7063897

>>7063875
I mean it was nice to record shit off of TV, that was the thing I liked, but yeah, it was like late period cheap 3.5" floppies, except if there was no much better and nicer made larger floppies to precede it.

>> No.7063901

>>7063889
I am not >>7063814.

>> No.7063903

>>7063894
>Depends on how often and constantly its used.
Maybe I have a movie I really like and watch it often? I don't like the idea of having to sacrifice the fidelity of my copy to actually watch it.

>> No.7063905

>>7063846
>>7063854
>T.was born after 1998

>> No.7063930

>>7063823
Never mind it being "impossible", I can't get the music to stop being vanilla.

>> No.7063937

>>7063930
You have to load MMMUS.WAD

>> No.7063938

>>7063814
Good spritework, but the game looks like a complete snoozefest, thank god Doom showed how first person games should be like.
Someone should rip the sprites from it so they can be used for a better game like Doom.

>> No.7063948

>>7063884
>>7063893
>>7063894
>>7063897
Only on 4chan could you find people contrarian enough to prefer videotapes over DVDs or streaming.

>> No.7063952

>>7063937
It works, thanks.

>> No.7063956

>>7063948
i didn't even mention streaming. it also kinda sucks in its own way but not in any direct comparison to vhs

>> No.7063958

>>7063948
Streaming isn't bad but it has drawbacks worth considering. Also I wasn't really making a pro-VHS post.

>> No.7063959

>>7063948
Streaming movies and TV has its own share of downsides too.
>can't own it for keeps.
>If the service goes under aka out of business, EVERYTHING currently on your queue is GONE FOREVER
>Need a password every time
>too much reliance on subscription

>> No.7063962
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>>7063880
>Ray Tracing
Let's throw away that term. It does not matter in that context here.
BUILD is indeed a raycaster. Its data structure however is not using BSP, unlike Doom. It uses a portal rendering system. That allows for moving sectors at runtime, in the form of swing doors, rotating sector constructs, vehicles ect.

Note that the rendering loop renders a frame via vertical slices in screen space. When done, it swaps buffers and continues that process.

>> No.7063969

really the best overall video media form is just a local video file on your computer. so of course no movie-producing corporation wants you doing it that way

>> No.7063991

>>7063827
>>7063875
>>7063881
>Arguing about artificially implementing flaws or limitations
These thread sometimes man for fucks sake

>> No.7064002

>>7063991
What you gonna do about it, huh? Huh? Have a sip of gamer girl bathwater.

>> No.7064007

>>7063991
If something looks like shit and is retarded, I'm not going to be quiet about it. VHS filters are smudge filter tier, it's just ugly and people should be lambasted for doing it.

>> No.7064012

>>7063962
>That allows for moving sectors at runtime, in the form of swing doors, rotating sector constructs, vehicles ect.
How does Hexen pull those swinging doors off, since it still uses id1?

>> No.7064023

>>7063823
>is it true that it's impossible to solo it?
The only thing "impossible" is naturally accessing MAP32, because the MAP31 secret exit is on the P2/P4 side of the map (players in co-op are paired off and play entirely separate areas before meeting up). You can actually use a glitch to get to the P2 side without noclip though.
The only time I got actually fucked over by MM1's co-op focus was MAP04, because the super shotgun is locked behind a secret requiring two players, and the end of the level makes you fight a baron in an extremely small corridor with the entrance sealed off, it's basically impossible to deal with him and I had to savescum to beat him without cheating. Just noclip and grab the SSG on MAP04, trust me

>> No.7064032

>>7063425
It's a memorable map with a fun gameplay and lots of cars. Freeway is also a fantastic level, I would put it ahead of the likes of Movie Set, Bank Roll or Fahrenheit easily.

>> No.7064037

>>7064012
Polyobjects. A hacky way to get around the limitations, but it's limited.
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Polyobject

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>>7064002
>everyone who disagrees with me is a simp or a retard.

>> No.7064064

>>7064051
Naturally.

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>>7064064
How so, dear retard who thinks he's so damn smart?

>> No.7064105

Rate my doom 2 setup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dScSahrEkF8&feature=youtu.be

>> No.7064117

>>7064105
Where 's the fun with overpowered weapons like that? Also I can't see shit.

>> No.7064184

>>7064117
Some people just want to slaughter some demons. I'm not much for it myself, I like to balance out OP stuff with Colorful Hell, or Universal Entropy.

>> No.7064290

>>7064105
That's a very quiet murderous rampage you're going on there, anon

>> No.7064431

>pew pew in a corridor
lol so revolutionary doombabs

>> No.7064447
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>>7064431
Nice strawman fuckwad.

>> No.7064506

>>7060065
I think some of the movement feels better than AVP2, but collision feels softer and sorta "off".
AVP2 feels more solid.
Plus the alien campaign in AVP2 is ace.

>> No.7064625
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>>7064069

>> No.7064705

Is there a /vr/ equivalent for crpgs? Besides, the one on /vg/.

>> No.7064768

>>7064705
you could just talk about them in modern crpg threads on /v/ since most of the posts are about bg2 and planescape anyways.

>> No.7064840

>>7059624
what's this?

>> No.7064853

>>7064840
McGee's Alice

>> No.7064857
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7064857

Retard question, Can I just use Quakespasm for Hexen 2 or do I need to use something else?

>> No.7064865

>>7064857
I don't think you can use Quakespasm with Hexen II, but you can use this source port.
http://uhexen2.sourceforge.net/

>> No.7064881

Any good Chinese-themed mods/WADs for Doom?
>inb4 just play Shadow Warrior or Legend of the Seven Paladins
>inb4 just play Shadow Warrior TC

>> No.7064890
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7064890

>>7064881
Batman TC

>> No.7064904

>>7064865
Works perfectly, thanks anon

>> No.7064905

Playthrough video of map10 of 1994 tune-up community project is up. A beautiful techbase map with lots of transparent textures.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiFhSaRmEFA
And the original.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAU1pfQYYf0

>> No.7064973

>>7060169
What, are you fucking gay?

>> No.7065072

>>7064007
Same could be said about playing Doom at 320x240 resolution, but still some people prefer it for nostalgia's sake.

>> No.7065076

>>7061397
still need help on this. trying to get quake music to autoplay in quakespasm. i can manually play the music with console commands but it won’t play automatically where it should.

>> No.7065103

>>7065076
the way you're describing it, it should just work.
since they play through console, it must have something to do with the filenames. does it say "couldn't find cdrip for track X" in console when you load into the level? maybe case sensitivity? underscores?

>> No.7065124

>>7065103
they are just called track02, track03 etc, they are all ogg files

the only error i see is that it failed to run an autoexec.cfg but im not sure thats related

>> No.7065131

>>7065124
>>7061397
I had some problems with playing the music on MarkV when I was getting everything working last month. This guide helped me out in getting it to work, though I'm unsure if it's applicable to QuakeSpasm.
I think removing/replacing all the files I downloaded with the game and replacing them with the set the OP linked in his guide was what finally got it working to me, somehow.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=119489135

>> No.7065139

>>7062370
Are you me? Shit, people reading that post probably think you're me.

Hi me.

>> No.7065145

Is there a non-mega link for Dusk? Something about the one in the OP on that site just won't dl properly for me.

>> No.7065176

>>7065124
you're certain you have external music on, right? try "bgm_extmusic 1;restart"
maybe it's trying to play your CD (real or virtual), try ejecting it. QS shouldn't prioritize CD music, but e.g. MarkV does.

>>7065145
not retro. gog-games.com

>> No.7065193

>>7065145
Rutracker, you retard.

>> No.7065284

>>7065131
I followed that steam guide from the beginning and it still doesn't work

>>7065176
yes it's on, and that console command had no effect

i opened my disc tray and tried booting it up, still no music

>> No.7065436

Does TITLEPIC have to be paletted in accordance to PLAYPAL 1 or something like that?

>> No.7065439

What's the best way to play ROTT these days? Or do I wait for the remastered source port?

>> No.7065513
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r8 the setup lads

>> No.7065525

>>7065513
that screens look fucking great, crispy as fuck

>> No.7065531

>>7065513
Comfy. No SC55?

>> No.7065532
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>>7065513
I love beige boxes

>> No.7065591

>>7065513
I had a N64 and a PS1 with access to a thousand games for half the price

>> No.7065623
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>>7065591
>paying money for games

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>>7065525
>>7065532
thx bbs

>>7065531
>SC55
If you're referring to my soundcard, yea I have that working. It took a bit of work to find the driver but it works for everything on W98 and some stuff so far on DOS.

>>7065591
I got the monitor and speakers for free, keyboard was $5, mouse was $20, case was $150 and all the internals were ~$100. also,
>paying money for games

>> No.7065653

>>7065649
I meant a MIDI device, Roland SC-55 or something like that

>> No.7065658

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOF0jFabSf4

>> No.7065674
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>>7065658
>that blood splatter
brooootal

>> No.7065685

>>7065513
Honestly beautiful.

>> No.7065739

>>7065649
>I got the monitor and speakers for free, keyboard was $5, mouse was $20, case was $150 and all the internals were ~$100. also,
mind listing all of them?
>>7065653
how much does a midi device cost?

>> No.7065771

>>7065513
Can it run Nuts?

>> No.7065895

>>7065739
Quite a lot, sadly, if you want to get an authentic one - around 200 dollars.
What you can alternatively do is to buy a small thin PC for around 50 dollars and set up an emulator. While it will not be as authentic, it'll sound good enough and still work on old PCs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRyPjvbDkvg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSk9S1bkRS8

>> No.7065910

>>7065513
>No CPU counter
>no turbo button
Never gonna make it.

>> No.7065935

>>7065910
That's why I love /vr/. Nothing is ever good enough for the raging autist.

>> No.7066063

>>7059570
wad?

>> No.7066070

>>7066063
That's Blood, not Doom silly.

>> No.7066129 [DELETED] 

https://twitter.com/3DRealms/status/1325377186124193792

>> No.7066137 [DELETED] 

>>7066129
Not retro.

>> No.7066203

>>7066137
You're not retro.

>> No.7066289

>>7065513
Love it. Wish I had room in my house for all the autistic shit I want.

>> No.7066293

>>7063962
I love these rendering gifs/webms. If you have anymore you should post them. I've seen them for doom, build, system shock (which has to render everything back to front)...

>> No.7066310

Does anyone here have the DOSBox version of Doom on Bethesda.net?

>> No.7066320

>>7064506
I find the gameplay with any race better and more experimental in AVP2000.

Its more my cup of tea. I think its the last of the true retro fps of that era.

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>>7065771
bofa deez nuts

>>7065739
>Monitor
19” Dell P991. People seem to complain a lot online about the black levels on Dell/Trinitron CRT monitors, but I have no issues with mine. The monitor stand/swivel was broken when I got the monitor, but I took it off anyway so it would fit on my tiny Ikea desk with my keyboard

>Keyboard
brand name is “ConnectKey.” It’s an AT keyboard, so it’s connected to a Din 5-pin female / Mini-Din 6-pin male adapter

>Mouse
Microsoft IntelliMouse

>Speakers
CTX SCTX-80

>Hard drive
Maxtor 60 GB hdd

>CPU:
AMD Athlon (K7)

>Memory
256 MB ram

>Motherboard
I don’t know the actual model number, but it’s an IBM Aptiva board that I pulled from the E-Series 590 on the floor. I couldn’t get the original MOBO to post on the one inside the nice case on my desk, so I swapped them.

>Soundcard
ESS ES1938S Solo-1. No MIDI support yet :-( which has only been an inconvenience so far with Star Wars Dark Forces. Getting that working is probably the next thing I’ll tackle on the rig, see >>7065895


>GPU:
Not sure; whatever the normie VGA GPU was that came with the Aptiva

>Network card:
Not sure; I still have to find and install the driver, but I don’t think I’ll ever really use it because I don’t have a huge need for interwebz or LAN on the rig.

>> No.7066438

>>7066432
Dude are you a vampire?

>> No.7066457

I'm using a LCD monitor for Half Life and its mods.
Is it wrong?.

>> No.7066481

>>7066457
take the CRT pill anon

>> No.7066575
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Hey everyone, I wanted to update you guys on the current status of 500ml. Progress is steady but a November 10th release date is unrealistic,
that was a bad call on my part. Two of the maps are entirely finished with more in progress, so this project is far from abandon ware.

Everything in MAPEDIT is considerably slower compared to modern tools such as doom builder, that's why we need some more time to polish everything up and make something cool.

>> No.7066585

>>7066457
Nah.

>>7066481
I don't miss CRTs, they glared like crazy.

>> No.7066607

>>7066585
Only cheap consumer CRTs

>> No.7066621

>>7066575
Never mapped for Blood, only extensively for DN3D and SW. It's absolutely correct...good maps need an enormous amount of polishing and endless iterations in BUILD.
Good luck with your project.

>> No.7066636

>>7066575
Take your time guys, a quality product is worth the wait.

>> No.7066641

Why doesn't the boomer community crowdfund a new fucking Build level editor that's not a piece of shit?

>> No.7066672

>>7066621
Appreciate the kind words anon, thanks. Could you share the Build maps you've worked on?

>>7066636
Will do, I refuse to rush out an unfinished levelset.

>>7066641
X-Mapedit is in the works, but thats still DOS. The Build editor isn't as shit as people like to claim, it's just slow.

>> No.7066696

>>7066432
Is that Dell a Pentium 3? I have one with the same case and the power supply died. I can't replace it with a generic power supply because they used non-standard voltages so a simple wire adapter won't work.

>> No.7066716

>>7066672
>Dos
are you kidding? Why even the fuck?

>> No.7066817
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duke nukem ain't afraid of no ghost bitch

>> No.7066840

>>7066817
>damn, fetus in the sink
>shake it, baby
why did you do this

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>>7066716
Show me on the doll where DOSbox touched you.

>> No.7066851

>>7066840
>"There was some gum to chew here before kicking ass."
>"It's gone now."

>> No.7066856

>>7066841
Not him but having to use a VM simulating vastly weaker hardware seems like a massive pain. Seems like it'd be super slow to use

>> No.7066885

>>7066856
That's a fair point, but you can configure it to run from a shortcut, so it's not as awful as you might expect. The frame rate is also quite good (90-140 fps).

>> No.7066903

>>7066716
Because fuck you

>> No.7066921

>>7066672
May take some time. I have to search through archive.org, because some of my DN3D maps definitely made it onto shovelware CDs. That's the price you paid when uploading your stuff to public BBS and forums in the 90s.

On the other hand it's great stuff got archived that way because I don't have my old stuff anymore, save for some text documents with the map names and some leftover notes from designing them.

>> No.7066927

>>7066856
There is no other way to use MAPEDIT atm. The next thing you could do is setting up an old PC with DOS.

>> No.7066934

>>7066817
I had to quit this after the flashlight turned to colors
is the real pt this boring?

>> No.7066973

>>7066934
it was a 10 minute tech demo silent hill teaser. yes.

>> No.7067058

Playthrough video of map11 of 1994 tune-up community project is up. The two maps barely have any differences gameplay-wise. Honestly, the original map is damn fine for 1994.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKBxd95u3ac
And the original.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmWQpGnAoEY

>> No.7067176

newfag to doom. What port and mods should I roll with? I'm not really interested in the 90's vanilla experience.

>> No.7067181

>>7067176
Read the OP, dumbass

>> No.7067201

>>7067176
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISSTfix7-iA

>> No.7067229

>>7067058
If you're still here, I enjoy your videos, keep up the good work. Also, for the original elements.wad video, I think your mic shat itself around the end.

>> No.7067232

>>7067176
The Unity port :^).

>> No.7067236

>>7067229
Thanks! I'll look into the mic issues.

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>>7067176
SmoothDoom.pk3
smoothtextures.pk3
DoomMetalVol5_44100.wad
pk_doom_sfx_20120224.wad
caulkpc.pk3
footsteps.pk3
immerse_v104.pk3
ZMovement 3.1.pk3
nashgore.pk3
SB_ALL.wad
SpriteShadow v1.9.pk3
fancyworld_v2.pk3
doomvisor_hudWW_Red.pk3
brightmaps_plus.pk3
STEVE_FLASHLIGHT_PLUS.PK7
autoautosave-1.3.pk3

>> No.7067276

why the fuck is my gzdoom so dark I've fiddled with every setting I can think of to fix this

>> No.7067279

>>7067269
Smooth DOOM looks cartoonish. The imps look ridiculous moving their feet a mile per minute and going nowhere.

>> No.7067281

>>7067269
Link?

>> No.7067282

>>7067279
I'm not pointing a gun to your dick, just remove it

>> No.7067286

>>7067281
give me some minutes, I'm dinning

>> No.7067292

>>7059484
Yeah

>> No.7067297

>>7067279
beautiful doom > smooth doom
make the jump, the glowing eyes and lightdefs look fucking fantastic with vanilla essence, add that to your order too and get nice and crusty.

>> No.7067298

>>7064625
Based bonkposter.

>> No.7067304

>>7066851
Chuckled

>> No.7067306

>>7067269
>no brutal doom
dafuq?

>> No.7067324

>>7067201
>>7067232
>>7067269
Thanks yall!

>> No.7067336

>>7067269
>no bolognese gore

Are you daft?

>> No.7067410

I'm stuck in GZPT. I think I'm towards the end since I got the "I'll call soon" screen but I have no idea what to do next. Is it possible to softlock yourself?

>> No.7067490
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>>7067281
probably fucked up something
my immerse has realaim disabled
I don't know, tinker it as you like
I think the .ini should had your windows user name, I'm not sure
https://mega.nz/file/ehBAFB5B#c9MMfAPBbNXBCdtkp3Gv-juRUZ9JI7aPdrwro6n1b2E

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>> No.7067540

>tfw find out eternity dev builds now have render scaling options.
Now I can play with chunky pixels.

>> No.7067607

>>7067269
Pretty based list desu

>Immerse+footsteps
I thought Immerse had footsteps could be wrong (too lazy to check)

>SB_ALL.wad
What is this? not getting any results

>STEVE_FLASHLIGHT_PLUS.PK7
The flashlight for darkdoomz (with openGL rendering) is fucking excellent.

>Fancyworld_v2
very nice i'll have to put this to use

>> No.7067658

Why are so many Slavshits into Doom?

>> No.7067672

>>7067658
The general answer when that question comes up with any game is:
>game is good and fun to play
>has modest or very low system requirements
>optionally can be modded to some degree

>> No.7067690

>>7067658
Most of that part of the world is still relatively poor, and so Doom, CS, Half-Life 1 and 2, STALKER, are all very much still in play. Though I'm quite curious why they're averse to Quake.

>> No.7067716

>>7067690
Lovecraftian True 3D shatters the squatting Slavs psyche

>> No.7067740

>>7067658
russian gaming is historically very pc-centric since console gaming was garbage in russia til the 2010s pretty much

>> No.7067753

>>7067672
Oh yeah, and local multiplayer options can be attractive too (games like Worms 2 and Heroes 3), because internet wasn't too fast once upon a time, but then when it did get faster, games like these stuck around, because they're good.

>>7067740
There's that too. Dendy comes to mind.

>> No.7068012

>>7067658
It's not just slavs. There's also a decently sized french community, too.

>> No.7068034

>>7067269
>>7067490
Thanks! Even more mods to add in my pack.

>> No.7068038

>>7067658
I haven't had a console till 2010 and my first one was PS3, while I had PC my whole life and played Doom since I was a very little kid (I even had a nightmare about cacodemons coming out of the monitor and I couldn't even stop them by turning off the power).
I can imagine many slavs were in similar situation.

>> No.7068046

>>7068038
cyka

>> No.7068070

>>7068012
Yes, but France is not relevant and barely has any nukes to speak of.

>> No.7068096
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Decided to remake Nirvana from memory for a community project.

>> No.7068097
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7068097

>When your no quicksave run on Well Done is going too well, so a door decides to crush you at the end of a level

>> No.7068116

>>7068096
That actually looks pretty nice

>> No.7068119

>>7068096
Nicely done. What community project btw?

>> No.7068126

>>7068119
Line in the sand. Another person will make area where currently startan is.

>> No.7068236
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7068236

>>7068097
Tough break kid

>> No.7068239

>>7067672
I read this in Decinos voice for some reason. Do you guys think he lurks here? Does he post on Doomworld? What about that fat ass Doomkid? I wonder if he lurks.

>> No.7068243

>>7068038
Sounds to me like a hallucination due to alcohol withdrawal, you just needed some more vodka.

>> No.7068279
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7068279

God, what is the feeling when you somehow give yourself a comfortable feeling while making maps?

>> No.7068295
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>>7068279
Maybe ditch the status bar and use a blank weapon sprite if you're going to show off something with a palette that far detached from vanilla, at least until you make paletted replacements.

>> No.7068301

>>7068295
I am not the guy who works on that part, but thats is planned to be changed do not worry.
i might just redo the screenshot afterwards.

Also i am saving that.

>> No.7068302

>>7068279
Broken palette aside, I really like the atmosphere of the level with it.
Reminds me of Duke3d a bit

>> No.7068358

>>7068295
>>7068302
Just also you all know
The entire project is a game that is going to be 'purchase' in the future, I am a mapper and idea guy of the project so far, leader is doing the Assets and make his own derivate of either chocolate or crispy doom the sourceport in which is going to be used is gonna go open source after release, the wad however will cost.
Just to make sure.

>> No.7068390

Pop Quiz: Name the two official iD releases in the DOOM series where you don't play as Doom Guy. (Don't google it queer)

>> No.7068391

>>7068390
DoomRPG and resurrection of evil?

>> No.7068392

>>7068358
Wish you good luck with this, then.

>> No.7068394

>>7068390
The Doom 3 addons?

>> No.7068398

>>7068358
I don't think anyone would mind a high quality Doom engine project akin to what Ion Fury is for Build. Hell, Rekkr probably could have gotten away with a commercial release.

>> No.7068407

>>7068391
>>7068394
Close, it's the Doom 3 add on Resurrection of Evil and Doom II RPG. You play as Doom Guy in the first Doom RPG.

I suppose you could include 3s Lost Missions

>> No.7068412

>>7068407
Doom II RPG is also the only game with 3 different protagonists to choose from.

>> No.7068425

>>7068392
I appricieate it.
let me tell you though the entire project made me think of how Romero/Peterson feel when developing doom (and then ask carmack for features)
Which by the way this game shall have Scrolling sectors and destructible (albeit selected types of) walls.

>> No.7068428

For people who participate in the more mainstream Doom community like Doomworld: Are these Retro FPS Generals here well known? Are they regarded well among people in the commnity or as a shithole? And do you think prominent people like Nash or Graf or even content creators like Dwars, Decino etc. post here or lurk at the very least?

I ask because for an anonymous community we have some super fucking knowledgable people and we've pulled off some incredible community projects but this is the only Doom community I have ever participated in so I have no idea how these threads are viewed

>> No.7068441

>>7068425
Make sure to use some obscure vanilla engine quirk as a feature so Graf has work to do on the compatibility front.

>> No.7068448

>>7068441
I mean One time when i requested to make The reverse of the usual lift system (aka i requested he could "WR Lift raise wait lower" and a turbo version), i missread one of his things says Up/Wait/Down/Stop to Up/Left/Down/Right, so questioned him if we were doign 3d floors, he responds with "Maybe later".

>> No.7068497

>>7068096
That's a neat concept, remaking a map from memory. I'm gonna steal that.

>> No.7068515

>>7068497
I didn't strictly speaking meant to remake the map, simply borrow some concepts like islands in acid and teleport. But after mapping I checked and found out just how much I remembered wrong. For example the start is nothing like what I drawn. And starcase to two teleports is going down not up.

>> No.7068521
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wtf i'm enjoying a game made on build engine

>> No.7068530

>>7068521
Not retro.

>> No.7068532

>>7068521
3G Lipstick?

>> No.7068534

>>7068428
From what I can tell they'll give us credit where credit is due but they still think of us as the ebil hackers on steroids, and anything good we do is us "breaking the norm".

>> No.7068538 [DELETED] 

>>7068534
Is Doomworld full of reddit trannys who can't handle people saying nigger here?

>> No.7068541

>>7068530
nobody asked
>>7068532
Near the start of the game I had 6 rounds of something and I was pushing G trying to see what item it was

>> No.7068543

>>7068541
Cope.

>> No.7068546

>>7059485
Serious Sam Collection coming to Switch November 17
https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/serious-sam-collection-switch/

>> No.7068547
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>>7068541
Yeah, its a style I can tell but imo this is clearer

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>>7068543
>noooooo you can't post ion fury its not retrooooo
>cooooopeee

>> No.7068551

>>7068538
Not all of them are like that but a noticeable chunk of them are, yeah. And the mods are on their side.

>> No.7068585

>>7068548
Why are you posting pictures of yourself, anon?

>> No.7068595
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7068595

>launch nuke
"JUST RIKE HIROSHIMA"
how did they get away with this

>> No.7068606
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7068606

>>7068548

>> No.7068614
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7068614

>Stab cultist with pitchform
"Just like Sneed's Feed and Seed..."
how did they get away with this

>> No.7068623

>>7068595
To be fair he said it in a somewhat shocked tone like "what have I done, so much death that I inflicted on these creatures what if they were innocent people?" Only to proceed slicing a buncha coolies afterwards while going "BANZAAAAAAAAIIIIII"

>> No.7068641 [DELETED] 

>>7068551
Wow, already deleted. Holy shit, you're such a faggot janny and you fucking do it for free.

Anyway the question I asked for those who missed it was if Doomworld was full of resertera tier tranny spergs who hate 4chan because they might get called a racial slur.

>> No.7068663

>>7068595
>>7068623
Well, he's Chinese, so it's okay. Everyone in Asia hates Japan and China too, but that's beside the point.

>> No.7068664

>>7068614
>You're going to need a lower soil pH...

>> No.7068743

>>7068595
America wasn't entirely pussified in the 90s

>> No.7068748
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7068748

>>7068614
Say sneed one more time motherfucker

>> No.7068750

>>7063483
Serious Sam doesn't really have physics but it does have some interesting gravity effects

>> No.7068754
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7068754

>>7068748
SNEED

>> No.7068767
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7068767

>>7068754
>>7068748
>>7068614

>> No.7068805

>>7068767
fake, those aren't demons

>> No.7068809

Unreal vs Half Life or Duke 3D vs Quake
Which was the better debate and caused more fighting?

>> No.7068862

>>7068805
They're demons by anime demon girl standards

>> No.7068882

>>7068390
Doom 3 Resurrection Of Evil
That one XBox expansion to Doom 3
Doom RPG
Doom 4
Doom Eternal

>> No.7068886

>>7068390
Who's iD?

>> No.7068895
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>>7068595
Because it sounds fucking badass.
Shadow Warrior 3 better have the nuclear rocket propelled grenade, and crass but tough sounding lines like that.
IN NAGASAKI
THEY LIKE BUKKAKE

>> No.7068903
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7068903

>>7068641
Yeah, some are, some are not, some are surprisingly level headed. Some who are rera-tier fags are also mods, so avoid poking them if you go there. Why make trouble for yourself with a bunch of strangers you don't respect for no gain to yourself?

>> No.7068914
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7068914

>>7068882
>Doom 4
>Doom Eternal
Incorrect. Pic related.
Doom 3
Incorrect, we aren't talking about official continuity but official releases in the franchise, its a separate reboot but he was still Doom Guy.
>Resurrection of Evil
Correct
>Doom 3 Lost Missions
Also correct
>Doom RPG
Incorrect, only Doom II RPG has different player characters. The first game is Doom Guy.

As for official current iD continuity, the series seems to be DOOM, DOOM II, DOOM 64 and then Doom 4 and Eternal.

>> No.7068916

>>7068428
I dont think anybody particularly cares. We arent like Doomer Boards tier well-known and praised. But when stuff from here like 2048 is posted, people enjoy it.
There are various creators who post here, like Combine Kegan and Revae (Rekkrguy).

>> No.7068919

>>7068916
Based Decino posts here, I'm him.

>> No.7068927

>>7068914
>Incorrect. Pic related.
Largely different gaiden entries by different developers two decades later.

>its a separate reboot but he was still Doom Guy.
I gave the full title of the expansion.

>> No.7068951

>he thinks zoom 2016 and zoom eternal are canon

>> No.7068961

>>7068927
You were wrong, sorry
>>7068951
They are according to the owners of the IP, which is why I said official.

>> No.7068972

>>7068961
>the owners of the IP
So wholly illegitimate? Neat.

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7069009

>>7068916
you never know when they strike

>> No.7069010

>>7068961
>They are according to the owners of the IP
Forgive me for not lending much respect to that notion in the year 2020.

>> No.7069039

>>7068390
Don't you play as a scientist whose conciousness was uploaded into a computer in Doom VFR?

>> No.7069043

Here's the real question.
Do you play as Doomguy in Action Doom?

>> No.7069048

>>7069043
No, you play as Action Doomguy

>> No.7069082
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7069082

does someone knows how do PCX or tga alphas works in quake 2?
found this on deviantart, but the guy made only the help menu

>> No.7069106

>>7068951
Who cares about story any way in doom. It's the aesthetics and gameplay.

>> No.7069119
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>>7069082
just save a tga with transparency as pics/help.tga
works in yamagi.
for pcx you'd use index 255 as transparency.

>> No.7069131

>>7069043
Actionguy

>> No.7069157

why did it take me this long to do pistol starts, having the feeling of arsenal progression every level is great

>> No.7069171

>>7068614
Caleb looks like an android of some kind in this cutscene.

>> No.7069172

>>7067607
>>SB_ALL.wad
3d skybox for 1, 2 and final doom

>> No.7069191

>>7069171
He looks like that in all cutscenes.

>> No.7069207

>>7069157
I've evolved to doing uv pistol with legendoom lite. getting trapped in a small ambush room and having a baron go super saiyan is a special kind of fear.

>> No.7069212
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>>7068038
>I even had a nightmare about cacodemons coming out of the monitor
>cacodemons will never come out of your monitor
this is it

>> No.7069217
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7069217

Fuck these guys

>> No.7069219

>>7067607
>>7069172
I think they came from this thread
and yes, immerse has footsteps, you can remove it

>> No.7069220

Playing Plutonia on UV with pistol start. I played it before, and finished it on some difficulty but have almost zero recollections about it.

I still don't get why is there an invisible bridge on MAP02
I have narrow curved passages on MAP03
MAP04 is really cool, but I wish they didn't make me run through damaging floor so much.

>> No.7069225

>>7069219
fuggggggggggggggggggggggg
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=53873#p947897

>> No.7069230

>>7069220
>I still don't get why is there an invisible bridge on MAP02
Honestly, I think the only reason that it's there is because Dario/Milo thought it was a cool mapping trick to show off at the time, and figured that was as good a place as any to cram it in.
It's better demonstrated (and conveyed) in map 04, I always thought it was too ambiguous and unclear in terms of progression.

>> No.7069259
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>>7069119
i may try to upscale the menus a bit using lolipop or fatality depending of which one looks better
also the nearest setting works really well with the handmade HD and upscale pack on moddb
Reshade raytracing works too, but you need to use Kmq2 to config since yamagi has mouse issues

>>7069217
>lets make a annoying hitscanner enemy, but with continuous damage and a complete asshole
the wonders of Q2 Mission packs
Because why make it harder?

>> No.7069323

>>7069259
Harder is nice because main campaign is really easy. And The Reckoning felt like the right type of hard at first. But then came those mod-tier enemies, like laser guard or new gladiator with million hp.
And the final boss is Makron again. Disappointing. Hope Ground Zero is better.

>> No.7069328

>>7069323
Ground zero was supposed to have a unique boss, but the development was rushed, Rogue is harder, but there are tons of unused stuff in it.

>> No.7069520

Just finished map 28 of Memento Mori and it was fucking great, hope there's more like it in 2.

>> No.7069524

Why it took Carmack three Quakes to get slopes right? In Q1 you slowly slide off if surface isn't strictly horizontal, in Q2 you can stand still on a terrain but going downhill makes you hop a little. Only in Q3 physics became adequate. He didn't care that much about anything besides rendering, did he?

>> No.7069565

>>7069524
Carmack tends to only care about one very specific thing at a moment. When making Wolf3D, game designers had to literally beg him to implement pushwalls so they could make secrets in levels, because he didn't saw how it was relevant to his goal of making the absolutely fastest-running first-person game on the market. Doom 3 was all about lighting, everything less was secondary to that. He haven't bothered implementing skeletal animation in Quake 3 even though it was becoming industry standard at this point - shaders and NURBS were more important to him

>> No.7069573

>>7069565
and yet you can hack that back to Q1,Q2 and Q3
IQM support for all 3 would be great along with an independent animation support so custom animations are possible for existing monsters.

>> No.7069578

>>7069573
>you can hack that back to Q1
And that's how GoldSrc came to be.

>> No.7069590

Playthrough video of map11 of 1994 tune-up community project is up. Decided to do a blind playthrough. A stunning map, well decorates, full of traps and encounters that never feel unfair. My favorite so far.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V-H6XVQftM
And the original.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHPKOMSN-Zw

>> No.7069593

>>7069119
>>7069259
How the fuck do you add transparency to a TGA file on photoshop/gimp?

>> No.7069597

>>7069590
Neat vid, wouldn't bother playing through that original wad myself, so I enjoyed watching you do it.
Are you slav, by any chance?

>> No.7069605

>>7069597
Thank you!
Obviously.

>> No.7069738

found a donde post with some neat resources for Q2 and Q1 skins
https://dondeq2.com/2019/01/17/shattered-art-skins-and-models-by-shatter-and-shine/

>> No.7069986

Why is there so little monster mods in comparison to everything else? A lot of them are randomized as well which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but sometimes it doesn't hurt to have a little stability and less chaos.

>> No.7069987

>>7069986
monster spriting is incredibly tedious, like the most mind numbing job in the world. 8 separate sprites or something for every frame if you don't cheap out and just make them face you all the time.

>> No.7069990

>>7069986
It's easier to make guns than it is to make monsters, especially fully custom weapons compared to fully custom monsters, because spritework is a fucking pain in the ass.

>> No.7069998

>>7068428
I remember when Doom Radio was still going around one of the questions that Alfonzo asked an interviewee was "have you heard of /vr/, etc". I think they were like "yeh, I heard of them, but don't go there".
Though I bet they do. Most people don't want to publicly admit they go to 4chan, for whatever dumb reason.

>> No.7070018

>>7069986
What is Guncaster Vindicated?

>> No.7070196

>>7068279
Bliss. There's nothing like creating and enjoying it. Music, art, mappmaking. Bliss.

>> No.7070197

>>7068895
Are the new Shadow Warriors worth playing?

>> No.7070219

>>7070197
First one's okay. Sort of a rough draft of the formula that id themselves would go on to use in 2016/Eternal. Second one is a looter shooter. If you're into that kind of thing I guess it's not the worst you could play.

>> No.7070223

>>7070219
None of that sounds very appealing really, and I like nu-Doom.

>> No.7070227

Thoughts on Prodeus

>> No.7070229

>>7070227
The name should have been Proteus because all I can think of is Spurdo otherwise.
>Prodeus :DDD

>> No.7070260

>>7069593
in gimp you do transparency as usual and just export. layer masks work, or you can right-click on a layer and add an alpha channel, then delete/erase parts.
in photoshop you have to add an actual alpha channel in the channels tab, then save as 32bpp

>> No.7070280

what's a "fun" boom compatible map design idea I can attempt to implement? Something that hasn't exactly been done to death at this point.

>> No.7070285

>>7068521
you didn't like blood or duke 3d? not very based...

>> No.7070326

>>7068521
Based

>> No.7070620

test

>> No.7070626
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I'm IN

>> No.7070697

>>7069987
>8 separate sprites
Default is five, actually (side-facing sprites can be mirrored, game does it automatically if you name your sprites in special way), though ZDoom supports 16 directions if you are a complete madman (or you are making sprites out of prerendered 3D models). Point still stands - it's a massive pain in the ass.

>> No.7070729

https://youtu.be/SlV1p7bhAUY

Inspires even more existensial dread than the original track

>> No.7070787

>>7070697
Five only if it's a symmetrical monster. For the zombies, it's just silly if they swap hands all the time, which is why the sprite fixing project is a must imo.
But yeah, making monsters is a fucking pain in the ass in any case.

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>>7070196
Thanks, now i know how to call it.
>>7068279
I guess i should add some more in regards of what the main dev has so that everyone can get on the same boat, because i kinda spread missinformation:
first thing first, there wont be a crispy version of the engine the dev is sticking with choco, but it will use the crispy version for a 640x400 resolution,
Next on the list of things i havent told is that in the game you play as 3 furry protagonists, a wolf (the warrior), a deer (a Wizard/lich and also the perfect gal for slaughterwads) and crow/raven(which is a rogue and a potion seller), they have their own mechanics but it's way to early to explain each, but i do know there is going to be 20 weapons.

also check out these cool doors.

>> No.7070825

>>7070814
>but it will make a version of the 640 400 resolution for his engine inspired by crispy*
Holy fuck i miswrite it that hard

>> No.7070834

Wanna play GRAVEN early
Here’s your chance
https://twitter.com/3DRealms/status/1325377186124193792

>> No.7070850

>>7070834
Suck my dick 3d realms

>> No.7070852

>>7070850
Blow it out your ass!

>> No.7070857
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7070857

>>7070852
ok nvm 3d realms seems based

>> No.7070859

>>7070834
>Wanna play GRAVEN early
Dude, I've been doing QA and bugfixing for the past few years on commercial projects. I don't want to betatest this broken shit.
When I want to play a game I don't want to deal with bugs and glitches, I want to play the game.
Hire goddamn testers and do it properly.

>> No.7070868

>>7070787
>But yeah, making monsters is a fucking pain in the ass in any case.
Would it actually be easier to model a 3D monster and then take screenshots of it at each angle, similar to how iD took photographs of a real world model at each angle?

>> No.7070887

Is the not terrible doom wiki kill?

>> No.7070890

>>7070868
Pretty sure that's what the folks for Rekkr actually did. Made a bunch of 3D models, took a bunch of screenshots and cleaned them up for use in the game.

>> No.7070927

>>7070260
nah i did it on paint and then gimp
i hate how photoshop handles alpha now

also i forgot to upload it but here is a cleaner TGA help pic >>7059484 >>7069082 so thanks to >>7069119 for help
anonfiles com/T1VbL3o4pc/help_tga

>> No.7070990

>>7069565
The reason Carmack didn't want to put in push walls was that he didn't think he could implement it in a way that would look good and clean, it was after heavy insistence by Hall and Romero that he realized it was actually pretty important and devised a way to do it.

>> No.7070994

>>7070990
Carmack fought for a Use Button in quake 1 and 2, something that was added later on in other games

>> No.7071000
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7071000

Decided to make an "Action-Horror" Scale of the Doom series, with a few selected (kino, boomer, relevant, flavor etc) other games in orange.

>> No.7071031
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7071031

Testing a placeholder melee animation. Since I don't need an alt-fire for other weapons, I will use it for grenade throwing, and melee will be an alternate attack for sidearm working similarly to Metal Slug - if enemy is close, you will hit him with melee, otherwise you will fire the sidearm.

>> No.7071064
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>> No.7071069

>>7071064
cute

>> No.7071096

>>7070223
If you liked Doom 4, you would probably like Shadow Warrior 2013. The gunplay isn't excellent, but the swordplay feels really good, also the enemy roster has this nice variety where different ones fill different roles an do different things, rather than shitloads of generic reskins that almost never do anything special like in Shadow Warrior 2.
Level design is so-so, it's acceptable, but could be better. Shadow Warrior 2's level design is straight up fucking unacceptable and someone should have been caned for it.

I really like the music, even in SW2.

>> No.7071594

>>7071000
Duke 3D might actually have more horror atmosphere than Doom Eternal, with how grim some of the levels are in episode 1 & 2. Eternal pretty much makes no attempt at atmosphere.

>> No.7071670

>>7071000
RE2 is definitely WAYYYY more action than 1. Hell, after the first also not too hard stint in the beginning of the police station, you're basically swimming in shotgun shells. So put RE2 further towards action and RE3 further towards horror so they share a bar, and make RE4 further towards action.
And for me personally, Manhunt was never that "horror", but it's also not an action game like the other action games, it was more of a stealth anyway, so I would probably even take it out of this list.

>> No.7071674

>>7070890
Doesn't Nash also do this?
I mean, if I knew my way around Blender (or had that old version of Sketchup I managed to do some really cool stuff with), I would definitely make some monsters, enough ideas are there, but fuck drawing everything from scratch.

>> No.7071739

>>7070890
And Hellforged guy. And 3D Realms when they made Duke Nukem and Shadow Warrior. Its a pretty common process for 2.5d shooters.
On the other hand, Raven hand-drew all the monsters for Hexen. I think they only used 3d models for a couple enemies in Heretic.

>> No.7072170
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7072170

Here's a level I made in like 30 minutes. The platforms alternate and change hurtfloor effect repeatedly. Kinda shitty but I thought it was fun, pick skill 2 for a mega at the start and 3 for blue armour (I beat it once on UV). Walk under the disco ball to exit.
https://anonymousfiles.io/t1o8bxL6/

>> No.7072174

>>7072170
Fuck, forgot to mention it's for Doom2, complevel 9, and in the MAP07 slot.

>> No.7072215

>>7072170
you spin me round anon.

>> No.7072250

>>7072170
Well, that's 30 minutes you ain't getting back.

>> No.7072275

>>7072170
A solid idea for an encounter, but I don't think floor moving this fast is very fun.

>> No.7072343

>>7069217
Fuck all the enemies in those mission packs

>> No.7072350
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7072350

How do you make good music for doom maps ?
I made this loop earlier but I don't know if it's usable.
https://anonymousfiles.io/Vo6GhOo4/
How lengthy should a music track be ? Depends on the map I guess.
Also is MIDI is still the way to got or should I export mp3 for gzdoom ? both ?

>> No.7072359

>>7072350
>or should I export mp3 for gzdoom
If you do, I will personally invent Fist over Internet Protocol (FoIP) to punch you in the face.

>> No.7072369

>>7072350
>Also is MIDI is still the way to got
Yes, anything else just feels weird.

>> No.7072374

>>7072350
Unless you want to make REALLY sure that the player hears the exact soundfont you want, I see little point in recording a .midi as an .mp3 to add to a GzDoom mapset.
Like, I'd do that if I wanted the music in my map to sound EXACTLY like it does in the NES game I took the music from, but otherwise, just do it as a .midi/.mus file, GzDoom will play it, and there's options for using stuff like SC55 with it if you want.

>> No.7072415

>>7071096
Hmm, I'll add it to the never-ending backlog queue.

>> No.7072421

>Page 10
NEWSPOST ANON WHERE IS THE NEW THREAD

>> No.7072428

>>7069738
The links still work, also found this too
https://www.per-thormann.de/roots-for-quake-ii/

>> No.7072431
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7072431

>>7072421
i was going to do, but im trying to un fuck a bit the inventory menu upscaling
i wish the guy at deviantart had done that too along with his stuff
https://www.deviantart.com/s13n1/gallery

>> No.7072435

>>7072431
>AAAAAAAAAA MY DICK DON'T JUST STAND THERE HUMAN KILL ME

>> No.7072450

>>7072431
and this is the next op image

>> No.7072454

>>7072359
please explain.

>> No.7072456

>>7072415
FWIW, I went into the game with absolutely zero expectations, first impressions was that I thought of the new Lo Wang as a contemptible dork, and I mocked him every time he spoke, but the gameplay was really fun, and I grew to like what a dumb nerd he was because the game acknowledges it and makes fun of him for it.
SW2 tries to do that, sort of, but doesn't really understand how and why it worked the 'first' time, and also tries to have its new and annoying support character to act as Lo Wang's "conscience", which I think is an extremely misplaced idea (considering the previous support character is kind of a selfish dirtbag, like Lo Wang is also supposed to be).

I'm hoping that in the future, aside from SW2 being retconned, that they get past that stage and develop him into the older, more hard-ass and cruel bearded warlord from the original game, not a villain, but kind of an anti-hero. Just maybe without the ridiculously thick fake accent.

>> No.7072460

>>7072456
WHO WANTA SOME WANG?

>> No.7072495

>>7072460
I wouldn't actually mind that so much if the accent wasn't so ridiculously cartoony.

>> No.7072508

>>7072495
NO PAIN, NO GAIN, HAHA!

>> No.7072673

Anyone making a new thread? I don't have the time.

>> No.7072725
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7072725

NEW THREAD:
>>7072720
>>7072720
>>7072720

>> No.7072734
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7072734

>>7072725
>Put "BEAT THE NIGGUR" in the options field by accident
brb killing myself

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