shaders can be cool sometimes

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Anonymous Mon, Nov 2, 2020 15:50:59 No.7048849 [Reply] [Original]

shaders can be cool sometimes

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 2, 2020 15:51:52 No.7048857 >>7048849 It didn't look like that, though.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 2, 2020 15:52:45 No.7048861 >>7048857 I have a real DMG to compare to, it's not perfect, but it's pretty darn close.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 2, 2020 15:55:00 No.7048870 >>7048861 >>7048857 Shaders do not necessarily have to accurately replicate something, they can be better than the real thing.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 2, 2020 16:11:31 No.7048945 what's that? A Retroarch plugin? Looks based.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 2, 2020 16:15:22 No.7048954 >>7048857 it looks EXACTLY like the shaderdevs intended

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 2, 2020 16:32:03 No.7049001 >>7048945 it comes with retroarch, in the quick menu go to shaders, then handheld, then console border, then dmg

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 2, 2020 16:50:20 No.7049068 File: 990 KB, 1920x1200, Legend of Zelda, The - Link's Awakening (F)-180505-101447.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7048849 yeah

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 2, 2020 18:24:21 No.7049324 >>7048861 Cringe >>7048870 yikes

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 2, 2020 18:52:03 No.7049397 File: 722 KB, 950x984, 1604350259733.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7048857 >It didn't look like that, though. I think my mock-up is a more accurate representation. I used some random shaders in Gimp to edit this.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 2, 2020 18:53:13 No.7049401 >>7048849 They get old pretty fast. I just want to have a nice clean view of the game that i want to play.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 2, 2020 18:55:23 No.7049403 >>7049324 Back to Twatter, you pathetic twig-armed faggot.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 2, 2020 18:55:45 No.7049405 I don't know why so many emulators stick a white background in gameboy games (the 3ds virtual console does the same IIRC). it's so much more pleasant in its green and black glory.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 2, 2020 19:00:37 No.7049429 >>7049405 The 3DS VC offers the option to play in green as well.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 2, 2020 19:03:45 No.7049439 >>7049429 interesting, didn't know that.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 2, 2020 19:20:22 No.7049487 >>7049397 That is very close.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 2, 2020 20:32:36 No.7049691 File: 1.12 MB, 950x984, authenticgameboy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7049487 This oughta complete the effect.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 2, 2020 20:49:57 No.7049749 File: 14 KB, 570x494, il_570xN.806220736_otxm.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7049691 Yeah, that looks about right.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 2, 2020 20:54:16 No.7049761 >>7049405 I think the green is sometimes a bit shitty and white is too harsh, I use the more tan colour scheme

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 2, 2020 22:12:35 No.7049962 File: 684 KB, 950x984, 1604350259733.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7049691

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 3, 2020 00:37:50 No.7050249 >>7049068 >round pixels You fucked up, they should be square

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 3, 2020 01:43:01 No.7050365 >>7048857 >Source: trust me

Anonymous Tue, Nov 3, 2020 02:08:06 No.7050404

>>7048870
>Shaders do not necessarily have to accurately replicate something, they can be better than the real thing
personally i prefer upscaling to scanlines etc. if you could get in a time machine and talk to your childhood self, would that kid tell you he wants more scanlines? or high def? i know what i wouldve went for.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 3, 2020 02:10:34 No.7050407 >>7049691 now have it show actual side scrolling gameplay, so we can enjoy the ghosting and motion blur

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 3, 2020 06:01:08 No.7050646 >>7050249 are you retarded?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 3, 2020 06:44:50 No.7050690 >>7050404 In some instances the scanlines break things up in a way that gives them more definition.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 3, 2020 07:23:35 No.7050732 >>7049962 perfect

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 3, 2020 07:43:24 No.7050752 >>7049691 That brings back memories.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 3, 2020 07:44:26 No.7050756 File: 127 KB, 800x497, famicom lode runner.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7050365 >t. has never had a real original GB

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 3, 2020 08:25:14 No.7050828 >>7049691 just as the developers intended

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 3, 2020 11:20:15 No.7051190 >>7050690 i dont understand this, can someone elaborate?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 3, 2020 11:51:45 No.7051232 >>7050756 I have my original game boy on my desk right now that I just replaced the lens on. It's pretty damned close when you've got a nice even light coming from behind. Sure, in motion it's blurry, but static screens should look like that.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 3, 2020 11:53:58 No.7051239 >>7048857 it looks better than real while maintaining the original DMGB's quirks

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 3, 2020 12:43:49 No.7051337 >>7051232 You ought not lie.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 3, 2020 13:08:37 No.7051383 File: 58 KB, 500x500, CRT.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7051190 There were arcane arts like the 0.5 dot technique.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 3, 2020 22:06:29 No.7052469 >>7051190 Old games were designed for the tvs of the time (CRTs), as such they can look vastly different without them.

Anonymous Tue, Nov 3, 2020 22:36:09 No.7052503
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>>7051190
Restrictions on or imperfections invisual media can become creative tools in the right hands

Sprites,textures, objects etc. were often created with the understanding that they were going to be displayed to the end user through a CRT monitor, which will introduce scanlines and other visual artificating, if you know this is going to happen, you can account for it and even use it to add texture and imply additonal detail in stuff to get a better end result without adding in more detail or expending more of your limited system resources

Think of it like using shadow creatively in film like in this pic, originally the hard shadowing (caused by the need for very, very strong stage lighting to get any detail onto early film) and lack of colour seen here were simply hardware limitations to be worked around, but here they've been used to create a certain mood very efficiently, without any extra technical "work" on the part of the artists, the same composition and framing but with a modern HD camera in full colour with realistic brightness would look very very different, less emotive, despite capturing the same information

Better yet, think of shooting a movie understanding that its going direct to VHS so you can make use of all that blur and visual noise to create a certain aesthetic or enchance otherwise shoddy vfx without doing anything other than keeping it in mind when composing your shots

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 4, 2020 03:29:00 No.7052796 >>7049397 >gimp >shaders

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 4, 2020 03:34:33 No.7052805 >>7048861 >but it's pretty darn close. not even close. was never that clear and well defined and the colours just seem off.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 4, 2020 03:35:34 No.7052806 >>7049691 that's how i remember it. perfect.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 4, 2020 07:47:33 No.7053076 >>7049068 Whoever did this has never played a Gameboy. It wasn't a fucking Tiger game.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 4, 2020 09:00:35 No.7053174 >>7052805 no it is like that, I understand what you're talking about though because there was no back light and there was a lot of motion blur which is easily added if that's what you want

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 4, 2020 23:10:31 No.7054627 >>7051383 SOUL SOULLESS

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 4, 2020 23:41:10 No.7054681 >>7049962 Gameboy™ if real.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Nov 5, 2020 00:09:18 No.7054714 >>7050404 Shaders != scanlines My current shader modifies color, adds bloom, etc.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Nov 5, 2020 00:19:06 No.7054729 >>7048849 that shader was actually originally developed by 4chan btw

>>	Anonymous Thu, Nov 5, 2020 00:23:55 No.7054737 File: 1.62 MB, 1289x769, gb.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu, Nov 5, 2020 03:42:46 No.7055027 >>7049962 Perfection

>>	Anonymous Thu, Nov 5, 2020 04:17:52 No.7055072 File: 132 KB, 760x443, joe-rogan-experience.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7054729 4chan racist hacker group? That's crazy!

>>	Anonymous Thu, Nov 5, 2020 07:35:29 No.7055315 >>7049691 literally perfect anon, well done

>>	Anonymous Thu, Nov 5, 2020 09:15:25 No.7055437 >>7051383 thank you, i see the appeal now. is anyone working on a way to reproduce the benefits of scanlines without actually using scanlines? i imagine a.i. or machine learning could be used somehow.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Nov 5, 2020 09:28:22 No.7055450 >>7051383 Post more of these, please

>>	Anonymous Thu, Nov 5, 2020 09:38:22 No.7055460 File: 56 KB, 400x200, 1549515401163788391[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I found a couple myself

>>	Anonymous Thu, Nov 5, 2020 09:39:24 No.7055462 File: 97 KB, 400x240, 1549515473178430831[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu, Nov 5, 2020 09:41:16 No.7055465 File: 691 KB, 2476x1857, i3l3PYf[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu, Nov 5, 2020 09:42:19 No.7055470 File: 446 KB, 1133x852, scanline[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu, Nov 5, 2020 09:43:56 No.7055474 File: 1.75 MB, 3278x1457, 1532213636271.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Last one

>>	Anonymous Thu, Nov 5, 2020 09:47:25 No.7055478 >>7055460 i prefer the one on the left tb h >>7055470 with this one, i can tell the crt effect gives a better result than square pixels wpuld have

Anonymous Thu, Nov 5, 2020 09:52:27 No.7055486

>>7055437
The trick is to use very, very faint scanlines.

Most filters user gigantic ones, but you shouldn't notice them from a normal viewing distance.

Doing that on modern displays requires a reasonably large resolution, at least a 5x upscale on 240p.

Then it's up to you if you want something like a composite filter to blend certain items and data, and if you want some phosphorus glow (just a very small amount) to enhance some of the blending and soften edges.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Nov 5, 2020 09:56:09 No.7055492 >>7055460 >>7055462 the right image in these two looks worse

>>	Anonymous Thu, Nov 5, 2020 09:58:02 No.7055496 >>7055492 i mostly agree, but at least link's ear has a sort of antialiasing effect in the crt version

>>	Anonymous Thu, Nov 5, 2020 09:58:19 No.7055501 File: 6 KB, 224x331, Screenshot 2020-11-05 155800.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7055470 >>7055478

>>	Anonymous Thu, Nov 5, 2020 10:04:02 No.7055518 File: 136 KB, 269x294, 000.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7055501 thanks

>>	Anonymous Thu, Nov 5, 2020 10:09:22 No.7055527 >>7055518 left looks better until the picture is enlarged.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Nov 5, 2020 10:11:58 No.7055530 File: 593 KB, 3278x1457, Shitty OC.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu, Nov 5, 2020 10:14:06 No.7055539 File: 29 KB, 480x480, there-was-an-attempt.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7055530

>>	Anonymous Thu, Nov 5, 2020 10:16:54 No.7055547 >>7055501 not meant to be displayed this way

>>	Anonymous Thu, Nov 5, 2020 10:25:12 No.7055571 File: 417 KB, 676x466, Shitty OC.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7055539 Fuck, I forgot to crop it hahaha

>>	Anonymous Thu, Nov 5, 2020 10:28:44 No.7055581 File: 36 KB, 256x224, Indiana-Jones-Greatest-Adventures-U0111.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] If anyone else wants to properly do it here's the original pic

>>	Anonymous Thu, Nov 5, 2020 10:39:19 No.7055602 File: 203 KB, 500x898, t-know-photoshop-show-me-fuck-i-tried-im-kinda-22035578[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7055571 This one has a better ratio >>7055530 pic related

>>	Anonymous Thu, Nov 5, 2020 13:43:17 No.7056016 File: 714 KB, 1920x1200, Legend of Zelda, The - Link's Awakening DX (F) [C][!]-191130-144019.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Thu, Nov 5, 2020 14:54:31 No.7056161

>>7055437
>>7055486
Anon is right. The problem is that it's full of zoomer retards that use gigantic thick black lines and thing that's how a CRT looks. It's a very subtle effect, and you never see actual lines on the screen. The thing is it's also almost impossible to simulate on lower resolutions, the closest you get is on 4K OLED screens.

Someone please post the photo of the retard playing Super Mario World on a projector with colossal scanlines.

Anonymous Thu, Nov 5, 2020 16:52:13 No.7056361

>>7056161
>It's a very subtle effect, and you never see actual lines on the screen
The size of scanlines is entirely dependent on the TVL count of the CRT. A 300 tlv set at a proper distance, no you probably wouldn't see scanlines. But on higher end arcade monitors where you start getting into the 4-600 hundred you'll definitely see them, and they'll be very very prominent on professional sets where you see 800-900. Also depends on the size of the monitor as well

>>	Anonymous Thu, Nov 5, 2020 17:29:26 No.7056429 >>7048861 There's much less space between the pixels on the real screen

>>	Anonymous Thu, Nov 5, 2020 17:33:05 No.7056434 >>7056016 Colors should be much more desaturated

>>	Anonymous Thu, Nov 5, 2020 17:33:39 No.7056436 >>7048849 What type of austism is required to want to use a DMG shader over a gameboy pocket shader

>>	Anonymous Thu, Nov 5, 2020 17:34:00 No.7056437 >>7054737 screen needs to be glossier, that light should be a blinding glare that obscures 2/3rds of the screen

>>	Anonymous Thu, Nov 5, 2020 17:41:38 No.7056451 >>7056436 The pocket shader is grey in RetroArch, this is the DMG shader.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Nov 5, 2020 23:54:15 No.7056990 So what's the best CRT shader? Currently using lottes-fast.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Nov 5, 2020 23:55:57 No.7056996 >>7056990 there is no best but Royale and it's derivatives are probably the most accurate

>>	Anonymous Fri, Nov 6, 2020 00:24:18 No.7057034 File: 73 KB, 630x611, 1583648662895.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] is there any shader that will make me enjoy video games and being alive again like I did back when I was 8?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Nov 6, 2020 00:24:22 No.7057035 File: 218 KB, 931x844, mambo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how's my shader?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Nov 6, 2020 00:32:53 No.7057051 >>7057035 >that piece of string you must have a very well lit room to get that clear of a picture

>>	Anonymous Fri, Nov 6, 2020 00:48:54 No.7057075 >>7049691 Lol'd

>>	Anonymous Fri, Nov 6, 2020 01:01:23 No.7057095 >>7053076 you've never played a Tiger handheld if you think they had pixels

>>	Anonymous Fri, Nov 6, 2020 02:13:16 No.7057210 >>7049761 You mean like the default Super Gameboy colours?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Nov 6, 2020 02:23:17 No.7057223 File: 13 KB, 320x180, 1601900297588.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] it's like none of you even played a gameboy before pick related is exactly how I remember it from my childhood

>>	Anonymous Fri, Nov 6, 2020 02:27:54 No.7057231 File: 1.59 MB, 1920x1080, 1603483900185.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7057223 now you're playing with power

>>	Anonymous Fri, Nov 6, 2020 02:29:45 No.7057234 >>7057051 I take the front of the case off

>>	Anonymous Fri, Nov 6, 2020 02:30:59 No.7057238 >>7057223 I don't think it was ever actually brown until GBC and Super Gamebooy

>>	Anonymous Fri, Nov 6, 2020 02:33:20 No.7057240 File: 2.04 MB, 2736x3648, 1577580355597.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7057238

>>	Anonymous Fri, Nov 6, 2020 02:35:04 No.7057242 >>7057240 correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think yellow is brown

>>	Anonymous Fri, Nov 6, 2020 02:36:00 No.7057245 >>7057240 God I wanted to own a Gameboy kiosk so bad as a kid Wonder how many tens of millions of dollars those go for these days

>>	Anonymous Fri, Nov 6, 2020 02:38:18 No.7057252 File: 835 KB, 2736x3648, screenshot.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] whoa, shaders can look like THAT???

>>	Anonymous Fri, Nov 6, 2020 03:57:27 No.7057338 >>7054737 It might need a few tweaks, but this is pretty good.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Nov 6, 2020 04:05:46 No.7057347 >>7054737 Scratches are fucking retarded, add some fingerprints now you're at it.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Nov 6, 2020 07:20:04 No.7057547 >>7054737 I mean, aside from being widescreen that looks pretty much spot on, but I still wouldn't want to play a game using it

>>	Anonymous Fri, Nov 6, 2020 11:33:55 No.7057946 File: 3.21 MB, 2560x1440, Screenshot_20201106_173037.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7048849 ye

>>	Anonymous Fri, Nov 6, 2020 12:09:03 No.7058021 >>7057231 Actually looks pretty cool. What shader?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Nov 6, 2020 17:16:31 No.7058671 File: 122 KB, 758x404, 1602848436024.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7051383 Quit posting this intentionally washed out meme shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Nov 6, 2020 17:21:38 No.7058686 >>7057946 based is it CRT Royale with curvature on ?

Anonymous Fri, Nov 6, 2020 17:23:27 No.7058692
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I wish Blargg filters were available for every platform, what are some similiar filters in Retroarch that i can use? Nothing retarded like CRT Royale though.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Nov 6, 2020 17:24:00 No.7058693 >>7058692 Filters are so 1999

>>	Anonymous Fri, Nov 6, 2020 17:24:50 No.7058696 >>7058693 I meant shaders

>>	Anonymous Fri, Nov 6, 2020 17:59:41 No.7058770 >>7058696 Test them. Although most shaders try to replicate the look of some real screen.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Nov 6, 2020 18:34:05 No.7058831 File: 1.33 MB, 1400x1050, 1555.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7058770 Found the 320p ones and they look okay, this specific shader is the only one that doesn't go over the top with the blur and bloom.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Nov 6, 2020 18:40:33 No.7058838 >>7058692 >Nothing retarded like CRT Royale though. t.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Nov 6, 2020 19:07:07 No.7058912 >>7050249 they're squares with rounded edges autist

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 7, 2020 03:12:15 No.7059691 >>7058686 it's CRT Lottes fast

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 7, 2020 03:30:52 No.7059725 File: 1.97 MB, 2048x1792, shaderp.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 7, 2020 04:40:36 No.7059815 >>7059725 I don’t like curvature and I think this one looks too sharp which kind of defeats the whole improving the image blending

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 7, 2020 04:52:18 No.7059828 >>7059815 the curvature is the best part of CRTs n00b

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 7, 2020 05:16:58 No.7059846 >>7049691 >Zoomies today will never experience this

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 7, 2020 06:03:08 No.7059895 >>7059828 You're a fucking retard.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 7, 2020 06:16:32 No.7059912 >>7059895 *your

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 7, 2020 06:17:42 No.7059914 >>7054737 is this an actual shader?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 7, 2020 07:05:20 No.7059993 >>7059912 Try again mate

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 7, 2020 17:45:29 No.7061197 >>7054737 put a cum drop on it, and some kids name rubbed off in sharpie

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 7, 2020 19:41:34 No.7061470 >>7059725 I like this, what is it called, please?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 8, 2020 04:57:35 No.7062428 >>7061470 photoshop

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