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7036049 No.7036049 [Reply] [Original]

why so much hate against castlevania 64?

>> No.7036083

>>7036049
IGAfags seething over how it's better than the PS2 CV games.

>> No.7036096 [DELETED] 

AVGN posers who think a comedy but made by a film buff is somehow the holy gospel.

There the same people that would question you for owning a Sega CD.

>> No.7036617

>>7036096
Did you have a stroke while typing this?

>> No.7036624 [DELETED] 

>>7036617

Yes...

>> No.7036629

Because every single 3Dvania rides off the brand itself, whereas the 2Ds are some of the best platform action and adventures ever.

>> No.7036663

>>7036083
Both are shit though

>> No.7036903

>>7036049
Never played it. But it looks like slow motion bullshit in a world too big for itself. Also gay looking character models

>> No.7036919

>>7036083
Why would IGA fans care about the PS2 games? Take your meds.

>> No.7036921

>>7036083
Both are shit retard

>> No.7037000

I'll delete that other zombified thread about Castlevania 64 if you think it best. I was in 'up my own ass' mode when I posted it the other day...

But truly I liked it at the time. I didn't hate it, although I did rage quit it on several occasions. I never did finish it. Rainy days are good for such pursuits perhaps, but also old people probably can find other things to do besides play vidya all the time...

Haha, I like the music. I like the controls. I like the animations and characters and setting. Overall? Would play again.

>> No.7037015

>>7036049
why so much love for it? every day you cocksuckers praise this awful n64 trash.

>> No.7037019
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7037019

>>7037000

lol ok then

I was not aware of that factor.

>> No.7037392

>>7036919
Because he produced them? Retard.

>> No.7038386

>>7036617
It was completely clear.

The only typo was "There" instead of "they're" for the point about the Sega CD. Which is the same thing, many AVGN fans think it's "bad" because he made a joking video about a few bad FMV games on it.

He literally just said that the people who say
Castlevania 64 are AVGN fans (posers) who think that AVGN, which is a satirical comedy made by someone who doesn't care about games (made-by-a-film-buff) is the holy gospel. How could it be clearer?

>> No.7039074

>>7036096
why would you own a sega cd?

>> No.7039423
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7039423

>>7039074
what am i gonna do, wait for nintendo to make one?

>> No.7039661

>>7037015
It just doesn't deserve the hate it gets. It's pretty average for 3D action games of the day. It's no clunkier than Tomb Raider or Shadows of the Empire. It's a hell of a lot less clunky than Megaman Legends. It deserves reappraisal, because it's been unfairly criticised over the years.

>> No.7039671

>>7039661
>It's pretty average for 3D action games of the day
This is the same generation that brought us threads of fate, soul reaver, brave fencer musashi, armored core, brightis, rising zan, chaos break, silent bomber, tenchu, tiny bullets, any of the 3d goemon games, syphon filter, love & destroy, and you think cv64 is average? Bitch it's bottom of the barrel in every conceivable way. It deserves no reappraisal, and your attempt to malign mega man legends, an actual competent game that predates most of the blueprint laying games of the genre is both embarrassing and obtuse. It's a genuinely terrible if this is where you put your energy instead of giving actually good games what they deserve.

>> No.7039680

>>7039671
CV64 is definitely a better Castlevania in 3D than MML is at being Mega Man in 3D. Its also definitely got better gameplay than Soul Reaver and Rising Zan. The levels are way less generic and it controls better than MML too.

>> No.7039696

>>7039680
Mega Man Legends at least has coherent controls, platforming, a predictable camera, comprehensible enemy designs, clear and readable challenges. CV64 fails in every one of these basic game design regards. Don't talk about soul reaver or rising zan, you've never played them. Playing Mega Man Legends after a minute of CV64 is a revelation in how awful the team that designed CV64 was, with basically the entire generation behind them already figuring out 3D single character game play, they managed to churn out a god awful game of 1995 levels of 3d design comprehension nearly 4 years later.

Except I've played more coherently designed 1995 3D games. There is a lack of praise for anything CV64 does right and only hollow attempts to say it's better than any other game with no real examples. If you've got nothing substantial to say, why do you even post you faggot

>> No.7039701

>>7039696
>Don't talk about soul reaver or rising zan, you've never played them
Incredible comeback dude. Rising Zan is only praised by people who haven't played it and Soul Reaver is great but the combat and platforming is worse than CV64. It also might be even more unfinished which is a shame.
>If you've got nothing substantial to say, why do you even post you faggot
Might wanna ask yourself that question pal. You seem just a little emotional right now.

>> No.7039702

>>7039661
If anything just criticise those individual weak games harder, rather than using them as an excuse for CV64.

>> No.7039703

>>7039702
The problem with CV64 is it only looks worse the more you compare it to literally any other 3D game at the time. There's just nothing redeeming about it.

>> No.7039708

>>7039703
This kind of hyperbole is just needless. You're pretty obviously just a console war autist with a stick shoved right up his ass over the N64.

>> No.7039714

>>7039701
Not him but another glaring thing about CV64 is the art style. Soul Reaver is way closer to the iconic art styles and setting of Castlevania. Would you even deny it looks better and has a cooler world?

>> No.7039716

>>7036049
it's not entirely worthless but it's only just above mediocre and, whether you like it or not, will always live in the shadow of symphony of the night given that the latter helped define a genre.

>> No.7039718

>>7039708
I wouldn't assume he has a vendetta. It's consensus that 3Dvanias aren't great. See: >>7036629

I've never seen these games recommended on their own merits, the way the originals were, or the way games like Soul Reaver or Resident Evil are.

>> No.7039721

I also don't find Soul Reaver itself to be a strong counter-example. Stuff like Tenchu are way better examples of the action-adventure peak of that time.

>> No.7039731

>>7039714
>Would you even deny it looks better and has a cooler world?
No. Legacy of Kain is a much more interesting world than Castlevania.
>>7039718
>I wouldn't assume he has a vendetta
You're being naive.
>It's consensus that 3Dvanias aren't great
By people who haven't played them. I'm not saying they're masterpieces or anything but the kind of vitriolic condemnation from that post reeks of console war tism.

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7039754

Fuck the haters, LoD was a great game so lets talk about it.

I like the way the areas were redesigned and expanded in LoD as opposed to 64. The only problem that I have with it is that I don't particularly like playing as Cornell instead of Reinhardt or even Carrie. His unique areas aren't very fun, and having to ALL of the tower trials in addition to the clock tower was a bit much. Definitely a fan of all the other additions made to the game though.

I wish people didn't get so easily filtered by the game, it actually has a lot going for it. FFS, for the way people praise Mystical Ninja here, at least you can snap the camera behind you and ledge grab in this game.

>> No.7039782

>>7039721
soul reaver is more an example of the average, cv64 of the bottom of the barrel.

>> No.7039786

>>7039782
More dumb hyperbole.

>> No.7039805

>>7039671
Megaman Legends is barely functional shit as an actual game. People just like it because it's cute. Castlevania 64 100% feels smoother to play.

>> No.7039983

It's alright. I certainly wouldn't want to pay for it but it's a decent playthrough if you're patient.

>> No.7040508

>>7039805
smooth 12 fps vs cute 30fps

>> No.7040720

>>7037392
People who are fan of IGA only really like the metroidvanias.

>> No.7041339

>>7039754
am I imagining it or does Cornell have slightly different jumping physics when compared to the other characters? Whenever I play as him I always jump over the platform I want to land on and fall in the next pit.

>> No.7041554

Does CV64 work well on emulators? I have no experience with n64 emulation, but I really like the look of this game.

>> No.7041602

>>7036049
Are the castlevania 64 games censored?
I see they were released first in america for some reason

>> No.7041634

Because its shit.

Why specifically now I guess some meme man made a video.

>> No.7042492

Still the best 3D Castlevania, doesn’t look like it’s getting topped anytime soon.