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as a doom fan, how do i get into hexen and heretic? What are they? Are hexen and heretic the same universe?

Bonus question : since it uses the DOOM engine, what other games can i look up that use the doom engine

>> No.7017550

Yes, they're all the same story following the Serpent Raiders conquering realms. Originally there was supposed to be a third game after Hexen called Hecatomb to close off the trilogy, but that went nowhere after Hexen II.
Anyway, games in order are as follows:

Heretic > Hexen > Hexen: Deathkings of the Dark Citadel > Hexen II > Hexen II: Portal of Praevus > Heretic 2

Heretic is pretty much a reskin of Doom, so you'll feel right at home.

>> No.7017562

>>7017550
based

is it worth tracking down and buying the old games in physical form?

>> No.7017574
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>>7017535
Yes and Rise of the Triad is a distant sequel to them, set in a the same universe

>> No.7017579

>>7017574
*sorry I'm obviously not OP had it on from my thread still

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>>7017562
Owning these games sound like a cool idea, but it's your call whether you want to spend cash on physical copies or just download the games off the internet.
I'll warn you right now that you shouldn't buy Hexen II off Steam because it(as well as Quake and Quake 2) doesn't have a working music, so you won't hear any bgm playing during the game. Portal of Praevus was never released digitally, so that might be worth tracking down as a physical copy or just find a torrent that has vanilla and expansion pack with all the audio issues resolved. Plenty of packs with everything already fixed floating out there.

>> No.7017608

>>7017592
a game without the music isnt the full experience, that's too bad. licensing issues? they should just make a new sound track. anything would be better than nothing. :/

i know doom is ridiculously expensive to find, but i figured these might be cheaper.

>> No.7017628

>>7017608
I thought only Floppy disk releases of Doom were crazy expensive.

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7017646

>>7017535
>what other games can i look up that use the doom engine
It's basically just Doom, Doom 2, Heretic, Hexen and Strife, all are playable through GZDoom if you have the WADs, although the Steam port of Strife is very good
https://store.steampowered.com/app/317040/The_Original_Strife_Veteran_Edition/

>> No.7017658

>>7017628
did it come on anything else than that?

>> No.7017668

>>7017608
Many games used CD audio back in the 90's and their engines literally don't support any other music format, so there's no way to include music in digital releases. Fan source ports fix it by adding MP3/OGG etc support

If you're not a brainlet, you can just download original CD images (redump etc), make your own MP3 rips (e.g. using DaemonTools + foobar2000), set up a source port etc, but it's probably too much for your zoomer brain so look for a repack I guess ;)

There's literally no point in owning old physical versions unless you're a collector since they've been dumped ten million times and there's no DRM so it's not like you're missing out on some special content that you won't get from a dumped CD/floppy image

>> No.7017672

>>7017668
>There's literally no point in owning old physical versions unless you're a collector since they've been dumped ten million times and there's no DRM so it's not like you're missing out on some special content that you won't get from a dumped CD/floppy image
This, just get a repack that has the music. I am pretty sure theres a link to one in the Retro FPS/Doom General OP. If not, ask in the thread and someone will link you.

>> No.7017673

>>7017535
>As a DOOM fan, how do I get into Hexen and Heretic?
Fucking play them. Both are on the Doom engine, and Heretic especially plays a hell of a lot like Doom. If you are that big of a Doom fan it should do it for you without any extra autistic steps needed to "get into it."

>> No.7017678

>>7017646
This nonce forgot Hacx.

>> No.7017679

>>7017535
Here you can find them all: Heretic (SOTSR), Hexen + Deathkings, Hexen 2 + Praevus, packaged in Dosbox

>> No.7017682

>>7017679
>>7017535
Oops forgot to post link: https://mega.nz/folder/CldGAahb#yn_8LkRHraywPgKJMp5pqA

>> No.7017686

>As a DOOM fan, how do I get into Hexen and Heretic?

Leave this thread before someone spoil the games for you.

>> No.7017690

>>7017678
Hacx was pretty. Its a shame it came out too late for anyone to care about a game made on the DOOM engine

>> No.7017693

>>7017690
*pretty based

>> No.7017698

>>7017668
im 90 shut the fuck up faggot im not a zoomer

>> No.7017816

>>7017658
CD and Win95 CD, Shareware CD. Same with Doom II.

I have a CIB Ultimate Doom 3.5 Floppy except for some reason the Previous owner lost the first fucking disk. And I've yet been able to replace it.

>> No.7017834

>>7017816
Show me the Doom 2 shareware CD. I believe you are mistaken. IIRC it went straight to retail.

>> No.7017836

>>7017690
I did not know that was a thing.

>> No.7017870

>>7017646
>>7017678
. . . and in calling that nonce out I forgot Chex Quest which is way better than Hacx. LOL

>> No.7017875

>>7017836
Hacx? Yeah that was the problem, virtually no one did even at the time.

>> No.7017908

>as a doom fan, how do i get into hexen and heretic?
by going to the fps general and downloading them from the MEGA link
>What are they?
video games
>Are hexen and heretic the same universe?
yes
>what other games can i look up that use the doom engine
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Doom_engine