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>playing Mortal Kombat on SNES
>enjoying the nostalgia
>using Scorpion cause he's badass
>do a sweep, enemy is not blocking so it's gonna hit
>sweep 95% done
>suddenly the enemy just grabs me and throws me to the other side of the screen
>rage
>THE WHOLE FUCKING GAME IS LIKE THIS EVEN O EASY MODE
>I can't even get past the fourth guy because of this bullshit AI, it's so cheap.
>it can block in a millisecond and counter before you can even react

I'd rather stick my dick in a blender and try to dodge the blades than to play this piece of shit. At least it will be an easier and fair game.
It was insanely hard 15 years ago when I first played it, and it is insanely hard now.

>> No.701287

there is a sweep glitch in the game were the CPU can sweep kick you out of range.

>> No.701295

>>701287

It's Mortal Kombat 2 by the way

That hasn't happened to me yet, but holy fuck, I really wanted a fair challenge.

>> No.701316

>playing Killer Instinct on Snes
>try to begin a combo, F F MP
>C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAK
>it wasn't even a combo yet, the second hit hadn't even linked yet
>try again
>>C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAK
>every time I hit the enemy I take more damage than him
>the only safe thing I can do are pokes
>it's the normal dificuty
>the COM can also do some good combos, combo break it isn't nearly as easy as it looks like
I rage so hard with this game, I hope the arcade version wasn't that cheap, it's literally unfair, the COM uses moves that would have to charge without charging, HOW CAN YOU COMBO BREAK ME WITHOUT CHARGING, THAT'S NOT EVEN POSSIBLE.

>> No.701319

>>701295
it happens in MK3

>> No.701339

>>701316

I haven't played killer instinct, and this just makes me not want to play it at all.

>>701319

The kicks in Mortal Kombat 2 appear to have a shorter range for some reason. Or maybe it's just me.

>> No.701386

>>701269
THIS is why the 2d MK games had aged poorly, the CPU AI is based on pure glitches.

but people loved it because of style (fatalities, digit graphics) over substance (Good polished game-play, why do you think was the reason capcom released many upgrades to SF2)

>> No.701409

You just suck, bro. Only those who know the true spirit of Mortal Kombat can beat the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkGUOu9_eEI

>> No.701414

>>701386

that's funny because street fighter 2 is easier than I remember.

So you telling me all this hard on for mortal kombat 2 is based on the graphics? Would make sense

>> No.701427

>>701414
No idiot, he is referring to the fact that people overrated a game that was in fact, bad, because of its style. (graphics, gore), over GAMEPLAY.

>> No.701428

>>701409

lol even with savestates he lost once

>> No.701431

>>701409
TAS cheating on an EMU.

seems legit.

>> No.701509

>>701269
>I'd rather stick my dick in a blender and try to dodge the blades than to play this piece of shit.


Okay James relax.

>> No.701518

>>701428
>>701431
I don't think he cheated. There's no indication save/load state anywhere in the video.

>> No.701524

ITT: People realize that console fighting games AI used to actually look at inputs the player made.

>> No.701543

>>701509
"I'd rather stick my dick in a rancid dogshit diaper than play this foaming piece of shitty gorilla ass. Poop! Farts!"

10/10. Comedy god. The internet goes wild.

>> No.701547

>Be very young child
>Wake up before anyone else
>Instead of waking up the 'rents like a faggot I play Mortal Kombat until dawn
>Beat it every day on hard before I even kindergarten

>> No.701549

>>701295
>fair challenge
>mortal kombat
Choose one.

>> No.701558

Try playing UMK3 or Trilogy. The AI movements dependence of the move you do, so basically you are on disadvantage almost every time.

>> No.701564

>>701509

but this game is ASS
and people must know
I'd rather suck on frozen turds

>> No.701584

>>701564
Cawadoody might be right up a your alley.

>> No.701597

>>701558
>>701524

All AI is like that.
It has to look at your inputs. But there has to be a delay on response.
You can't make the computer make decisions in microseconds. We can't think that fast.

>> No.701674

Mortal Kombat is seriously bad for 'cheating' like this, it's really annoying. Worse so, Mortal Kombat 3(or trilogy I forget which one) has a glitch where easy mode is hard mode and hard mode is still hard mode, there is no easy mode.

>> No.701678

>>701674
vat

>> No.701690

>playing single player Mortal Kombat
>ever
It just teaches you to be cheap and spam specific moves to win

>> No.701696

>>701690
So tournament level playstyle?

>> No.701703

Fuck Shao Kahn

>> No.701840

>>701703

I like how he insults you every 5 seconds.
Also, the sound effects are god tier. Specially when fighting kintaro. He growls and punches you out of the screen and the audience goes wild.
That shit's scary man.

>> No.704289

>objectifying your subjective incompetence

It's called training. Looks like the game was not the only thing that stayed the same all these 15 years.

>> No.704387

When I was a kid, I once rented a fucked up cart that had a sliding bug: the cpu controlled character would slide toward my character while ducking my attacks.

>> No.704390

Proof I wasn't crazy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoJ_bFGWb-g

>> No.705871

>>704390
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoJ_bFGWb-g

see why this game has aged so poooooooooooorly

>> No.706250
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706250

This game is great. It would appear that OP is just not very good at it.

There is a hotdog place that has a MK2 machine near me, I play it there all the time. The arcade version seems much much harder to me

>> No.706256

Same shit with SSF2.

>Higher difficulty means cpu dmg boost & player dmg reduction
>Instant daze recoveries
>L attack spam to break up your specials
>Priorities all over the place
>Slow down to fuck your combo attempts after 2 hits (worse if involving pre fireball)
>Cpu "dodging" throws with 1-frame ducking
>Can defend low blow with high block if hit by high blow at the same time
>AWFUL fucking hit detection
>Sweeping your own sweeps
>Interrupting your multi-frame attacks by making single or low frame attacks immediately after your input

The worse thing is the "AI" is so underdeveloped that beating it on 8star even with all this is as easy as memorizing their stupidly basic routines.

The only satisfaction is using this "knowledge" (dat broken controller :\ ) makes it a cakewalk to beat SFIV on the highest difficulty within minutes of playing it for the first time after the last SF game you played was Alpha 2. Admittedly, the last boss took a couple of retries but he was no match for someone who can weather SSF2's cheap factory.

>> No.706261

>>706250
That description reads like a YuGiOh card.

>> No.706290

> I'd rather stick my dick in a blender and try to dodge the blades

Seems like a good idea, try it and show us a video!

>> No.706441

>>706256

Tell me about it.

I remember playing SSF2T on the arcade, losing the first fight in about 20 seconds, and going "Jesus, what a fucking ripoff".

>> No.706451

>>701269
>I'd rather stick my dick in a blender and try to dodge the blades than to play this piece of shit.

hey dude you should start a video game review video series where you get perturbed and make funny comments like the one you just did.

>> No.706464
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706464

So..
Mortal Kombat thread?

>> No.706474

>>701518
There's two instances in the last round where the timer "sticks" for about a half a second (at 94 and 90.)

>> No.706472

>>706451
I have a feelimg it might've been done already.

>> No.706489

>>706256

>sweeping your own sweeps

shit, MK2 also does that. I rage everytime

>>706451

he should call it the angry video game reviewer or something

>> No.706515

>>706256

Shit, forgot a couple of them!

>Guile/DJ can spam fireballs as fast as QCF characters (which is much faster than you as Guile/DJ)
>Skipping recovery animation frames
>Complete ignoring input during slow down moments, but just for the player; the CPU can (and will) still hit you

>>706441

I can't imagine this madness at 50 cents a pop with coin-op difficulty. That's the kind of game that makes kids violent.

>> No.706537

I dunno about you guys but this is my favorite fatality of all time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqvW0PMpmMo

I luv me some Mortal Kombat 4, one of the best.
it was fast paced, fair, and had grat fatalities.

>> No.706564

>>706537

If it's a "fatality", how come the other guy is still screaming?

>> No.706581

>>706564

How come everyone in the mortal kombat universe is still alive after each tournament?

are they cloned?

>> No.706706

>>706581
Maybe. Maybe it's magic. But you at least expect them to die before you call it a fatality.

>> No.707898

Believe it or not, the jap version of ssf2t (Super Street Fighter 2x: Grand Master Challenge) is actually easier in normal difficulty.

>> No.707903

Easier than the international version in normal difficulty, I mean.

>> No.707908

>>707898
>>707903

That's because it doesn't read inputs like the international version.

>> No.708926

Was this true of the Genesis version? I remember it being hard, but not in a fuck-this-cheating-psychic AI kind of way.

>> No.708976
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708976

>>701316

>Any game where even the babbiest of COMs can pull off all the hardest combos/attacks/bullshit interrupts regularly.

I consider myself okay at fighting games and I like challenge but when dude mcwhatshisface pulls the 3 hardest attacks in the game back to back I'm not going to pretend that's not bullshit.

>> No.709070

>>701269
Cry me a river, OP.

What in the world makes you think games should be fair to you? Are you some sort of mental cripple? Conquering towering advercity is what it's all about.

>> No.709073

>>701295
>I really wanted a fair challenge
Go find a support group or something. Only play scrabble with a bunch of supportive, non-competitive, nonjudgemental women like yourself.

>> No.711815

>>708926

I dunno who you were asking but this >>706256 and the subsequent post were referring to the Mega Drive version.

>> No.711891

>>709070
but when said conquest is made insanely difficult by BS moves no human can pull off you might get a little uhm, buttflustered at times.

>> No.712014
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712014

>>701269

SHANG TSUNG GIGGLES AT YOUR BUTTHURT

>> No.712035

>>701295
>fair challenge
>fighting game singleplayer

>> No.712061

>>701690
but I don't know anyone who plays mortal kombat, how am I supposed to enjoy it?

>> No.712114

>>706581
This was one of the more hilarious elements from MK9 because we canonically can't have any of the cast die so each fight never ends with fatality no matter what Shang Tsung said.

>> No.712129

>>706537
I always liked Liu Kang's dragon fatality.

Then in MK3 everyone got one (animality) and it wasn't special anymore :(

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712171

>get good at playing a fighting game against the CPU
>think you're hot shit
>fight human player
>get mopped up because you were so used to exploiting flaws in the CPU's tactics (like stuff to get around the CPU's superhuman blocking reflex)

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>>712171

everytime

>> No.712278

>>712171
This is why single player sucks outside of conditioning muscle memory for combos and shit.

>> No.712283

MK2 is so fucked on difficulty. You literally cannot throw any opponent beyond the first couple. The computer will automatically throw you no matter what.

>> No.712347

god, why did they release Mortal Kombat Kollection on PC, its useless with no one to play with and no one plays online what with fucking GFWL.

>> No.712565

>>712171
>(like stuff to get around the CPU's superhuman blocking reflex)

That's the only part about fighting real people that's easier; if you throw an attack, it probably won't instantly be shut out within a millisecond.