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Why did Rare just give up on Stop n Swop?
When they found out that Nintendo's hardware revisions turned that ten second window of opportunity to switch out the carts got turned into an impossible one second, why did they just say "oh ok" and end any further attempts, right there?
Why didn't they just create a passthrough cartridge like Sonic and Knuckles, or include an adapter cartridge that you would plug both games into, swopping between the games with a sliding selector switch?

>> No.6998728

Cost and even physical clumsiness of needing an extra item. It was a tiny feature, it's not a big deal. If they could do it with the cartridges fine, if not screw it. Needing extra connectors for small things like that is bullshit.

>> No.6998753

Maybe I'm stupid, but couldn't they have just used the controller pack? Banjo Kazooie writes a small file, which is then read when you boot up Tooie.

>> No.6998756

>>6998703
>>6998753

>a passthrough cartridge like Sonic and Knuckles
Costs money
>an adapter cartridge that you would plug both games into, swopping between the games with a sliding selector switch
Costs money
>controller pack
Costs money

>> No.6998762

>>6998756
People had controller packs if they had any desire to save in certain games though.

>> No.6999697

>>6998753
They could have if they had known that far ahead. Banjo Kazooie was already out, right? They'd have to re-release it.

>> No.6999707

>why didn't they just dump money on an entirely new hardware peripheral without Nintendo's blessing that already failed on a competing console
OP you're pretty fucking stupid

>> No.6999759

>>6999707
a toggle cartridge like this is extremely simple. it's just swapping electrical connections, no logical hardware needed. it's mechanically very easy to manufacture and many chink third-party stuff like this with the same principle in mind was made for gameboys a few years later.

>> No.6999773

>>6998703
they sort of implemented the prizes / keys / eggs into Tooie, though IIRC the ultimate prize is, er, Dragon Kazooie, or that new beak bash move, neither of which is really worth all that build up.

It was a neat idea (Rare had lots of neat ideas in the 90s) but not worth all the hassle, in the end

>> No.6999919

>>6998728
It turned big because of the huge promise it was in the first game and the disappointing resolution it got in the second game.