System Shock 1 or 2?

[Anonymous No.6996267]

I've beat 2 several times, just finished my first playthrough of 1. In many ways I prefer the 1st, and the game doesn't have a large drop in quality later on. System Shock thread as well I guess.

[Anonymous No.6996303]

I just beat SS2 for the first time. Why is the last half of the game such a fucking slog? It falls off harder than Half Life 1 and that's saying something.

[Anonymous No.6996329]

>>6996303
Tight deadlines I'm guessing.

[Anonymous No.6996339]

>>6996267
I like both.
I don't have a favorite as both are good, but i think people hate 2 because theyve been memed via youtube. I found out about the series from some stupid top survival horror games vid.
Because of that and the whole "conserve your resources" meme first time I played i snuck everywhere. Then I played the first game after 2 and it finally clicked, they're action games not survival horror. I'm doing a psi play through now, running around at a million mph wrecking everything and cause of it I actually like 2 better than I did before.

[Anonymous No.6996370]

How do you like that pov VR shit in 1?

[Anonymous No.6996371]

>>6996303
Yeah, probably just time constraints.
I played through it recently. I used to think just the Body of the Many was bad, but honestly, everything past the Recreation Deck isn't very good. Command and the Rickenbacker are both worse than earlier levels.
It's just a gradual slide into mediocrity.

[Anonymous No.6996404]

I like 1 more but 2 is also good. I think 2 tried to do the escalation bit 1 did, but failed to pull it off likely due to running out of time.

>>6996267
>How do you like that pov VR shit in 1?
You mean the hud that you can disable?

[Anonymous No.6996814]

>>6996303
I really don't think it drops off that bad. Command deck is multiple floors and Richenbacker is pretty tense. Just going through the vents can be a little freaky

[Anonymous No.6996871]

>>6996267
I think System Shock is deeper and has a lot of amazing ideas, but System Shock 2 is definitely more polished.

[Anonymous No.6996923]

>>6996267
>take wrong turn on command deck
>le wild rumbler appears
>turn and run
>can hear it right behind me
>use a speed stem
>tear past spiders to the tram and hit the button just before they catch me
Why can't other games have this feel?

[Anonymous No.6996936]

>>6996267
I beat 1 and enjoyed it. Got bored with 2 and never finished.

[Anonymous No.6996943]

>>6996936
How far did you get into 2?

[Anonymous No.6997247]

>>6996923
Thief has.

[Anonymous No.6997264]

>>6996303
>Why is the last half of the game such a fucking slog?
it's mostly made by Irrational, while the first is mostly by Looking Glass

[Anonymous No.6997794]

>>6996943
Somewhere around having to run around all over the ship and the creep was everywhere and there were nurses.

[Anonymous No.6998009]

>>6997794
So engineering or hydroponics then probably? You barely started. Game picks up at the recreation deck (deck 4)
You're still running around the ship but the enemies do change

[Anonymous No.6998202]

>>6996871
>I think System Shock is deeper and has a lot of amazing ideas, but System Shock 2 is definitely more polished.
This is the most backwards post I've read in a long time.

[Anonymous No.6998541]

>>6998009
I feel like I put 10 hours into it, maybe it's just such a slog that it feels longer. I honestly hate all the game mechanics. Weapon degredation can suck my ass. Enemies spawning in a room I just cleared to come in and attack me from behind is also shit.

[Anonymous No.6998558]

>>6996936
2 is hard to get into. The RPG system kept me out for a while. I remember a long time ago I saw some review that basically said if you level your shit wrong you get to points where you can't progress (basically a half truth). I liked 1 so much that I soldiered through. It's still a great game. Really good for spooktober.

>>6998541
>Weapon degredation can suck my ass.
I never really had a problem with it. Especially early in when you don't have enough ammo to have your weapons degrade. I just used the wrench 99% of the time until the game started throwing bigger enemies at me and loaded up on maintenance tools or whatever they were.
>Enemies spawning in a room I just cleared to come in and attack me from behind is also shit.
But 1 also did this

[Anonymous No.6999670]

>>6998541
Melee weapons are in it for a reason. Also psi tier 2 has something that prevents weapon degradation. Game is a cakewalk with it

[Anonymous No.6999806]

[Anonymous No.6999840]

>>6999806
I wonder how many obscure games that don't have shit like this that goes completely unnoticed due to lack of an autistic fanbase to find it.

[Anonymous No.6999950]

>>6999806
You're making me want to play 1 again

[Anonymous No.7000524]

>>6999806
Favorite level? For me it's security

[Anonymous No.7000691]

>>6996267
1 by a mile. 2 is average and extremely overrated.
>>6996303
Troubled development and tight deadlines.
>>6998558
>But 1 also did this
No it didn't. The only enemies that consistently respawn are those invisible blob monsters and autobombs Shodan throws at you in the last maze. Other than enemies only respawn after you've been away from a floor for a long amount of time.

[Anonymous No.7001537]

>>6999670
The laser sword seemed like a cool idea, but requires too much of a useless stat to be buffed and then the hum of it was too annoying so I just reloaded and didn't spec for it.

[Anonymous No.7001595]

>>7000691
>No it didn't. The only enemies that consistently respawn are those invisible blob monsters and autobombs Shodan throws at you in the last maze. Other than enemies only respawn after you've been away from a floor for a long amount of time.
Honestly, the invisible blob monsters was exactly what I was thinking of when I posted that and I do remember enemies respawning when you had to backtrack but now that I think about it, it was because SHODAN was guarding the reactor and shit.

[Anonymous No.7001612]

>>7001537
I don't even think he was talking about the laser sword. If you have the BrawnBoost equipped and maybe some points in STR (which gives you inventory space to) you can 2 shot the hybrids (almost every single enemy) with the wrench and have basically no investment in melee at all. Then when the hybrids start getting phased out you can bust out the real guns. Also with smash the crystal shard out DPS' the laser sword.

[Anonymous No.7001690]

>>7001537
I was referring to the wrench and shard. Have never used the laser rapier in 2
The shard can almost one shot cyborg assassins

[Anonymous No.7001694]

SS2 is better.
>>6996339
this fucking contrarians.

[Anonymous No.7001705]

>>6996339
>because theyve been memed via youtube.
What youtube vid lol? No one on youtube talks about this game. Is youtube going to be the new scapegoat to explain away peoples preferences?

[Anonymous No.7001709]

>>7001694
>People with opposing opinions are contrarians
I see you picked up the /v/speak from our new 6th gen friends. Next are you going to bring up game reviews or something else to avoid actually having to explain yourself?

[Anonymous No.7001721]

>>7001709
But /v/eddit pretends SS1 is better, nice try.

[Anonymous No.7001869]

Both are fucking amazing, but I slightly prefer 1 just because it's the kind of game I like more.

>>7000524
Reactor because of that sick music. Also the first time you go through you're really underequipped, so every hopper poses a big threat, but then when you come back later with the laser sword, you can just obliterate everything. It's a good feel.

[Anonymous No.7001940]

>>7000524
On my first playthrough, I skipped through pretty much all of security with the flying boots because I was so worried over the time limit (is there even one?).

[Anonymous No.7002673]

>>7001940
I think there is depending on what you set the difficulty to. I opted for no time limit

[Anonymous No.7002680]

>>7001694
>im contrarian for liking both
Ok fag

[Anonymous No.7002682]

>>7001705
Pretty sure it was a watch mojo video but may have been some other count down video. I can assure you people talk about ss2
They don't talk about the first

[Anonymous No.7002685]

My psi play through of 2 continues to be a joke. Torched the many with my assault rifle and speed hypos like they were nothing
Nice feel honestly

[Anonymous No.7002835]

>>7002682
>watch mojo video
You really had to scrape the bottom of the barrel. So the reason people prefer 1 to 2, or even dislike 2, is because SS2 was slapped on some random top 10 video that no one remembers? Youtube really is going to be the next scapegoat used to shitpost and kill any chance of a discussion.

>>7002680
That guy just wants (you)s

[Anonymous No.7002882]

>>7002835
I'm pretty sure that's where the turn the music meme off comes from. Some people do that for more "atmosphere" and because of it they think it's a survival horror game, not an action game. That's all I'm saying

[Anonymous No.7003064]

>>7001940
There's no time limit even though the game acts like the reactor is about to blow, you can take as long as you want. That is unless you're playing the enhanced edition on the hardest difficulty, iirc that adds like a 6 or 7 hour time limit to the whole game, not just that last section.

[Anonymous No.7003567]

>>6996267
>finish the second again
>remember that we will never get a sequel it hurts

[Anonymous No.7003771]

>>7002882
I never saw whatever irrelevant top 10 vid you're talking about and I immediately turned the music off when I played it without anyone telling me to. It clashed way too much with the atmosphere for me to stomach it. It's so obviously apparently the game is forcing horror themes in every avenue. From the logs, to the sound effects, the ghosts, the body horror, the atmosphere, the cutscenes, etc. It's like every scifi horror cliche thrown into one game. Even the DEVS THEMSELVES said in a letsplay of SS1 that they gave you just enough to scrape by: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LDiTZ89j-Q

Your opinion is so moronic that the only way you can justify it to yourself is to blame youtube despite the only example you can scrape up is a fucking "Watch Mojo" vid, which alone is evident of how fucked up your thought process and view on things is.

[Anonymous No.7004260]

honestly, I still don't like the MedSci music. It's probably the worst track in the game.

[Anonymous No.7004706]

>>7003771
>Dude you're a moron for thinking 2 is an action game
Yes anon that's why the soldier says "nah" at the end like a one liner and in typical B movie fashion they leave it open for a sequel.
The music clearly isn't supposed to imply it's not survival horror either, right?
If you think they give you "Just enough too scrape by" you are a child.
They give you way more than you need, even on the hardest difficulties because it is not a survival horror game. If it was you would not be able to light yourself on fire and run at 100 mph with a grenade launcher wrecking everything
Play the game again and maybe you'll see it's more than just the "SO spooky" bs meme you think it is.
It has horror in it sure, but that is not the main focus of the game. It's closer to being die hard in space than anything else and YOU are the moron if you don't see it

[Anonymous No.7004928]

>>6996267
2 had the best music. that is if drum and bass/jungle is your favorite genre of music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtdQ5roMuEA

There is just something about roaming those halls with a gun scared out of my mind paranoid as fuck hoping to not encounter something. All the while listening to this in the backround. Gets me pumped up.

[Anonymous No.7006206]

I fucking love SS2. SS2 and Deus Ex are my favorite games from that time.
The atmosphere, listening to logs from dead crew, customization. It's all so good.

[Anonymous No.7006498]

>>7006206
Ss2's customization always feels like such a dead end to me.
You level your main combat skill and hacking. That's all you need

[Anonymous No.7007440]

>>7006498
Agreed