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6995989 No.6995989 [Reply] [Original]

why couldn't any n64 game be this good? :(

>> No.6995996

because bing bing wahoo

>> No.6996001

>>6995989
btw Spyro trilogy completely BTFOs Ape Escape

>> No.6996006

>>6996001
They will seethe at this post, but just know that you are based and redpilled, my fellow patrician.

>> No.6996012
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>>6996006

>> No.6996023

>>6995989
Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon shits all over this game, though.

>> No.6996026

>>6996001
this. revisisted the series through the reignited trilogy last week and it still holds up. just a fun game. love collectin' me gems

>> No.6996029

>>6996026
the real question is:
did you go for Stewart Copeland's original soundtrack, or did you put on the horrid "remastered" soundtrack?

>> No.6996035

>>6996029
the remastered. I wanted to experience something new, and it was fucking excellent. very high quality audio, and re-recorded with live instruments. just sounds fucking phenomenal. you won't find me subscribing to >new is bad

>> No.6996043

>>6996035
fair, but I think some of those remixes don't do the original tracks justice

>> No.6996050
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6996050

sorry OP, your thread has been hijacked by a small purple dragon

>> No.6996051

>>6996001
Fucking newfag. You're supposed to blindly shitpost about how much better Ape Escape is than Mario 64. Do you think I wrote the rabbit shit for nothing?

>> No.6996053

>>6996043
agreed. I think the original spyro the original soundtrack is better. but man oh man, year of the dragon's redone soundtrack is fucking gorgeous and up there with any of the best video game music I ever heard. like I'm certain this is what stu copeland would have done himself if the technology allowed at the time. everything is so crisp, you can pick out every track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBUrsAUUsVo&list=PLfQ0j5YNcrZp0rZHs-rOgTDchgr-N1NwT&index=10&ab_channel=AbdulTheArabicGuy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNA-gul5eDQ&list=PLfQ0j5YNcrZp0rZHs-rOgTDchgr-N1NwT&index=13&ab_channel=AbdulTheArabicGuy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJMbGTQn79k&list=PLfQ0j5YNcrZp0rZHs-rOgTDchgr-N1NwT&index=14&ab_channel=AbdulTheArabicGuy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObyC7FIAbqQ&list=PLfQ0j5YNcrZp0rZHs-rOgTDchgr-N1NwT&index=18&ab_channel=AbdulTheArabicGuy

>> No.6996054

>>6996051
both of those games are ass though.
sorry I didn't conform to your rules of posting.

>> No.6996065

>>6996053
it's funny you mention Bamboo Terrace, because that is the prime offender in the remix not doing the original track justice in my opinion.

>> No.6996070

>>6996065
I kinda like that it goes in another direction. gives you more versions yknow? im funny about music that way

>> No.6996083

>>6996070
idk
I guess this is the second "remastered" game I have bought, after the Final Fantasy X/X2 remaster.
they redid most of the songs for that one too,
and some of the remix's I loved (the Prelude) but some were just awful and didn't even come close to the original (Besaid Island theme)

>> No.6996095

according to Steam, I 100%ed all 3 Spyro games in 37 hours. playing from 1 to 3 in order. all skill points, everything.
should I start again and try to beat my record?

>> No.6996119

>>6995989
BECAUSE THEY ARE JUST NOT EXCEPT IF YOU GREW A NINTENDO OWNER OR HAD A 64 AND YOU NEED TO DEFEND YOUR CHILDHOOD SAYING LIES ON THE NET.

>> No.6996207

>>6996119
>lies
Spyro is the objectively superior platforming collectathon game.
just as Crash Team Racing is the objectively superior mascot kart racing game over Mario Kart 64.
>although the main Crash games were shit and BTFO by Spyro just as Ape Escape was

>> No.6996414

>>6996001
I grew up with both and I still can't really say I would take one over the other.

>>6996119
The only good platformer on the 64 was Mario 64. Banjo, Conkers, Glover, etc.... they all sucked. That being said I'm not saying Spyro or Ape Escape are better than Mario 64

>> No.6996417

Still trying to force Ape Escape vs Mario 64? Both are great games.
Real sonyggers prefer shit like Crash, stop falseflagging nintendrone.

>> No.6996421

>>6996207
>>although the main Crash games were shit
Wrong.
>and BTFO by Spyro
Correct.

>> No.6996423

>>6996421
>wrong
>correct
choose one?

>> No.6996545

>>6996417
>Still trying to force Ape Escape vs Mario 64
The games aren't even comparable.

>> No.6996549

>>6996545
because they are both utterly BTFO by Spyro

>> No.6996556

>>6996423
I suggest you learn about this concept called "nuance". Looks like it'd help you out a ton.

>> No.6996557

>>6996556
not in this case

>> No.6996565

>>6996549
another game not even comparable

>> No.6996626

>>6996557
Yes you big fat dummy, in this case too.

>> No.6996630

>>6996626
incorrect
>>6996565
absolutely and unequivocally wrong

>> No.6996634

No! stop liking games on the rival's system! Console wars are important! Pick a side!

>> No.6996646

>>6996557
You're an idiot.

>> No.6996868

>>6996634
I still can't afford both consoles

>> No.6997152

>>6996001
>>6996006
>>6996012
>blatant samefaggotry
Spyro is shit for magical faerie faggots.

>> No.6997674

Ape Escape is one of those games that requires abstract thinking, its controls perfectly delivers a way to experience games with more of a oneness with the character you control, and expanding how you interact with a character with the second stick being a primary means of achieving that control is a stroke of genius. Mario 64 is a game that is at its height when you are being pushed to use your movement techniques, to long jump, wall kick, flip and lunge the way you want to go, and Miyamoto in his brilliance saw the best way to engage the player with this movement was to use a rabbit the player chases around. Unfortunately he forgot to think of anything else that really pushes the player in the game, levels are otherwise bloated with hyper-simplistic objectives that basically equate to get to the correct x-y-z coordinates and then do it again a few more times before the level is 100% complete. It gets to be a real chore. Ape Escape observed that master stroke and said "what if every level had an objective that good?" expanded on it with the monkeys, made them all unique, full of personality and far more dexterous than any enemy in Mario 64 and gave you the tools to get them. Ape Escape is a correction of Mario 64's failures and is genuinely without flaw. The only problems it has lies with the player who must not be so close minded and rigid with how they're willing to control a game, put aside the knowledge they learned from earlier games and rethink things the same way Mario 64 made them learn what an analog stick does. It is literally a game too smart for Mario 64 fanatics.

>> No.6997816

>>6997674
Based.

>> No.6997937

>>6996630
At least Mario 64 and Ape Escape control somewhat similarly. Spyro has nothing in common with either of them.

>> No.6997989

>>6996001
Possibly the dumbest post I've read all week.

>> No.6998015
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>>6996001
This. I like Ape Escape, but not on the same level as Spyro 2 and 3

>> No.6998019

>>6996545
They're 3d platformers with a focus on collecting something that isn't a currency. Ape Escape is the closest PS analog to Mario 64.

>> No.6998997

>>6996050
I was....born to glide!

>> No.6999004

>>6997937
3d platformer collectathons

>> No.6999012

>>6996421
Indeed, more excited for Spyro 4 than Crash 4 but still ecstatic we have Crash 4 now.

>> No.6999023

>>6999004
SM64 isn't really a collectathon, though. The Stars are more like level end-goals that can be easily placed into a 3D environment than, say, Jiggies or Golden Bananas.
Sure there's some crossover with collectathon elements but its pretty broad.

>> No.6999025

>>6999023
there's multiple stars though. it's absolutely a collectathon. just like the multiple orbs in spyro 2 levels. you need those orbs to advance the game, so they're not just shiny objects.

>> No.6999027

>>6999023
Ya know I love pretty broads

>> No.6999040

>>6999025
Sure, but just having one set of items you need to get to progress doesn't exactly make SM64 a collectathon. The name collectathon itself implies there are multiple sets of items to be collected, and that a major focus of the game design is on exploring around for all of them.
SM64 requires you to grab one star at a time out of each level, and coins/red coins/blue coins and etc are just used to reach an end-goal within the levels. You aren't really collecting anything besides the stars.

>> No.6999071

>>6999040
i think you're really splitting hairs. you gotta find the stars, that's the whole point of the game. collect these items. compare that to super mario brothers, where you just cross the level and hit a flagpole. THAT is what a game that isn't a collectathon looks like. sure you can pick up coins but it's not necessary at all.

in sm64 the entire game is collecting stars.

>> No.6999117

Ape Escape is an N64 game that got lost and ended up on the wrong console.

>> No.6999157

>>6999012
Meh. If it wasn't made by Naughty Dog, it's not a Crash game to me. Same with Insomniac and Spyro.

>> No.6999161

>>6997674
>>6997816
>still samefagging this failed tl;dr pasta attempt months later
Nintendo fans are retarded, but the anti-Nintendo ones are even worse.

>> No.6999297

>>6999157
Season of Fire/Ice were fun

>> No.6999397

>>6996001
There's shitposting and then there's garbage opinions like this.

>> No.6999414

>>6997674
Based as fuck. Though Mario 64 is pretty good. We can all agree that Spyro is a shit heap, dead franchise, that shoulfn't even be uttered in the same sentence as Ape Escape or Mario 64.

>> No.7000331

>>6996001
This is true. Ape escape is fun and great and one of my favorite games but artistically its generic and can feel repetitive. Spyro environments and sense of exploration are excellent and any game where you can fly is awesome. It also has much much stronger characters.

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>>6997152
You're gay.

>> No.7000940

>>6999012
I wonder what story line they'd go with.
I recently played dawn of the dragon and actually really liked the two player mechanics as well as cynder's abilities. Like for real, flying in games I've always been a sucker for, so I wouldn't mind a new game being a blend of what was good from OT and the better parts of dawn of the dragon. the rest of the legend trilogy was fine for its budget but it doesn't need to come back.

>> No.7002559

>>7000331
how can one man be so wrong

>> No.7002587

>>6999297
I don't care.

>> No.7002591

>>7002587
whyd you even bother posting? idiot

>> No.7002604

>>7002591
whyd YOU even bother posting? moran

>> No.7002607

>>7002591
Don't tell me what to do, faggot.

>> No.7002775

>>7000936
>sleep tight dead franchise
Stay mad faggot.

>> No.7002781

>>7000331
There's shitposting and then there's blatant retardation.

>> No.7003391
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>>7002775
>dead
no u. itll be back
FromSoft is already working on the new one it'll be out next year bro

>> No.7003419

>>7002781
ur the retard, buddy
what legitimate complaints to you have about this game?

>> No.7003439
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>> No.7003442

>>7003439
When to we get ape escape UE4 edition?

>> No.7005152

Alright you faggots convinced me to try Spyro. Which one serves as the best sampler? I'll go back and start with 1 if it's good (assuming 1 isn't the best sampler).

>> No.7005153

>>7003439
Nice gum, what flavor?

>> No.7005536
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>>7005152
If you wanna explore and collect play 1. If you are as autistic as me play all of the OT ones and then play tLoS.

>> No.7005549

I get the impression noone actually plays Spyro anymore, they just hold it up as this great game because it's the closest they have to Mario 64. When's the last time you heard someone talk about a Spyro secret or a Spyro speedrun or Spyro period not in a console wars thread.

>> No.7005552

>>7005549
People talk about Spyro speedruns pretty often

>> No.7005560

>>7005549
I mentioned reignited at work and literally everyone in the room had played it. Not even meming.

>> No.7005639

>>7003439
Holy shit it's Ape Escape on digital media and Ape Escape in real life

>> No.7005658

>>7003439

Did you just wipe your ass with that hand and didn't wash it? What the fuck dude

>> No.7005674

>>7005658
His mom fucked all the dudes at the Ford dealership and all their cum combined to form super-cum. That's why he looks like all the races of the world mixed into one.

>> No.7005686

>>6995989
I'd feel bad about this thread being hijacked by spyro, if this wasn't the 3rd time someone used Ape Escape as a low-key console war thread.

>> No.7005762

>>7005686
>hijacked
>on /vr/
Nigga this board slow as fuck bro. Why you can't just keep talkin ape escape and do your thing?

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>>7005639

>> No.7005835

>>7005762
Reread the post. I'm GLAD this got hijacked.

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>>7005835
Oh shit my b. Yeah lol here have some spyro bruh.

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>>6995989
Because the N64 can't do graphical FX and has shite lighting.

>> No.7006463

>>7003439
Threadly reminder that by allowing 6th gen on /vr/, we opened the floodgates for actual /v/ shitposters like Rugarell (black sony fanboy who has years and years of shitposting behind his back).
Enjoy neo /vr/!

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>>7006453

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>>7006463
The 30 year old console war threads have always been like this, though. You're not wrong in that every other thread is tainted now.

>>7006453
>>7006828
see pic rel

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>>7003439
I guess the ape really did escape!

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>>7006979

>> No.7007336

>>6996035
>you won't find me subscribing to >new is bad
very stunning and brave defiance redditor, but you have to go back

>> No.7007379

Based Ape Escape.

>> No.7007667

>>7006832
Picture is too dark, PS1 was better in that aspect, check the Masson Impossible game on both consoles.

>> No.7008498

>>7007336
based.

>> No.7008549

>>7006979
I kek'd.

>> No.7008683

>>7000940
Yeah id prefer if they just pulled a Crash 4 and retcon everything after OT and make the 3 villains from OT the villains + maybe add new ones and new mechanics.

>> No.7008687

>>7008683
Could add Red and/or the big bad from Legends I guess

>> No.7009016

>>6996001
>Spyro
Please don't fight. Both Ape Escape and Spyro are pointless garbage that doesn't deserve to be in the same conversation with a timeless masterpiece like Mario 64

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Way too clunky compared to Mario 64.

>> No.7009586

>>7009574
>64cels think this cringe is good

>> No.7009593

>>7009586
Show me some pro level ape escape gameplay.

>> No.7009859

I wish we could just have a thread about Ape Escape without the shitflinging that always happens.

>> No.7009863

>>7009859
>game about wild monkeys
>surprised threads always devolve into shitflinging

>> No.7009878

>>7009859
First post: >>6995989
>why couldn't any n64 game be this good? :(
Last thread >>6982403
>What is it about this game that makes Nintendo fans seethe?

These aren't Ape Escape threads.

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>>7009878
No shit. There are more images of purple dragons than monke in this thread.

>> No.7009913

>>7003439
>greatest hits
fuck off

>> No.7010084

>>7006463
He is unironically correct

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>>7008683
>>7008687
>not wanting cynder back
Wow it sure is gay around here.

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>>7009863

>> No.7010861

>>6995989
Ape Escape > Crash > Spyro
> Mario

>> No.7011431

>>6995989
Not sure if this is a good thread to ask but what are some other good PS1 platformers if I enjoyed these
>klonoa
>ape escape
>crash trilogy

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>>7011431

>> No.7011506

>>7011431
Tomba
Soul Reaver is mostly considered an adventure game, but the platforming is pretty great.
Gex 2 and 3
Skullmonkeys

>> No.7012392

>>7011457
I'm playing this now and wondering why the fuck I didn't originally like it. This is great.

>> No.7012417

>>7011457
I love Jumping Flash 1 and 2. I think they're both a tad too short but that's my only complaint

>> No.7014060

>>6995989
they weren't a tech demo made for selling the new controller around the block

>> No.7014207

Soul

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg9o9eVinc4