/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.6983546]

Why was the hike 'n strike genre so shallow and monotonous until the creation of God Hand, /vr/?

[Anonymous No.6983564]

>>6983546
God Hand really is fucking based. Absolute masterpiece. I stumbled on it used back in the day and loved it, never knew another person IRL who played it

[Anonymous No.6983852]

>>6983546
Not interested.

[Anonymous No.6983880]

>>6983546
Not retro

[Anonymous No.6983932]

>>6983880
Time passes boomer, get over it. Gen 7 will be retro in 10 years.

[Anonymous No.6983934]

>>6983880
Based retard

[Anonymous No.6984345]

>>6983546
not retro

[Anonymous No.6984891]

>>6984345
you homo

[Anonymous No.6984906]

>>6983880
The Xbox 360 released 15 years ago.
The PS3 was released 14 years ago.
God Hand was on the PS2 in 2006 2 months before the PS3's release date.
How old does something have to be before it's retro?

[Anonymous No.6984920]

>>6984906
Ah yes, Gears of War, my favorite retro game series.

[Anonymous No.6985216]

>>6984906
Up to 1st January 2007, if I’m not mistaken. At least according to the sticky thread

[Anonymous No.6986062]

Favourite boss fight, /vr/?

[Anonymous No.6986069]

>>6986062

[Anonymous No.6986115]

>>6983880
>>6984920
>5 years ago: The sticky says it's not retro so it's not retro
>Now: IT'S NOT RETRO EVEN THOUGH THE STICKY SAYS IT IS
Can you niggers shut up? It's retro according to the sticky so fuck off. Saying shit that is retro according to the sticky isn't retro should be a bannable offense on this board, just like posting non-retro stuff 5 years ago was

[Anonymous No.6986148]

>>6986115
Perhaps we need some more spectrum posts, even things up a little

[Anonymous No.6986495]

>>6983546
not retro

[Anonymous No.6987131]

It's weird how 3D beat em ups never really took off, in general.

[Anonymous No.6987214]

>>6987131
Blame adventure and RPG elements for killing off oldschool arcade action videogame design.

[Anonymous No.6987353]

>>6987214
There were plenty of 3D beat-em-ups though, they were just never very well liked.

[Anonymous No.6987379]

>>6987353
Ones that are purely action can be counted on one hand, see: Dynamite Deka 1&2, Zombie Revenge, Spikeout, and.... yeah.

[Anonymous No.6987410]

>>6987214
adventure games and rpg's predate arcade games though

[Anonymous No.6987440]

>>6987410
the first ever videogame was a shmup

let that sink in

[Anonymous No.6987454]

>>6983546
its not retro so you need to go back, but i do love this game.
>>6986062
"What the...!"
>>6986069
"You alright?"

[Anonymous No.6988139]

>>6983880
>>6984345
>>6986495
>>6987454
Read the sticky. The rules were changed.

>Retro gaming means platforms launched in 2001 and earlier, and official game titles for those platforms released no later than December 2007 (homebrew console games made after this date will be permitted). The Microsoft Xbox, Nintendo GameCube, Nintendo Game Boy Advance, and Sony PlayStation 2 will now be considered "retro".

God Hand released 2006, so it's retro. And really, how can you look at God Hand and then look at /v/ and think that the culture surrounding this game isn't retro at this point?

[Anonymous No.6988882]

>>6983546
just beat this game for the first time about a week ago, loved it so much I immediately did a KMS run (pic rel). I loved that run as as well so I went to try a hard mode run... and I can't get past the first level, it's insane. Anyone have any tips/advice for hardmode? I thought I was good at this game after beating the sign run but this is just kicking my ass into the milky way.

[Anonymous No.6988884]

>>6988139
not retro

[Anonymous No.6988891]

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[Anonymous No.6989070]

>>6988884
not giving a fuck about you boomer

[Anonymous No.6989101]

>>6988882
The biggest hurdle for me was learning that I absolutely needed to get the timing down for launching enemies across the screen via combo breaks. This is the most straightforward way to crowd control now that tackling no longer works.

Other than that, liberal use of guard breaks, saving God Hand for demons, and mashing all of the face buttons when the prompt comes up (not just circle) are even more important than before.

[Anonymous No.6990317]

>>6989101
thanks, I'll keep working at it

[Anonymous No.6990321]

>>6988139
>>6989070
>read the rules!! the trannys said ps2 is now retro!! accept it!!
hahahahaha

[Anonymous No.6990443]

>>6990321
You are retro, fag. Accept or deny, it's true. Move over.

[Anonymous No.6991305]

>>6983546
Where do these stupid genre nicknames come from? Faglikes, metromanias, looter and polluters, feed and sneeds. The list goes on...

[Anonymous No.6991316]

>>6991305
funny sneed

[Anonymous No.6991751]

>>6988882
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SG3i28oZauE

Also, Chain Yanker + YMK with dodge cancels is the easiest way to cheese the game.

[Anonymous No.6991772]

>>6987131
They did. The Arkham games/Spider-man PS4 were/are popular.

[Anonymous No.6991803]

Dash 'n smash

[Anonymous No.6991808]

>>6986062
Elvis
I think we could even be friends if he wasn't a demon

[Anonymous No.6992501]

>>6986062
WHIP IT GOOD

[Anonymous No.6992601]

>>6992501
Such a sexy man, just my type!

[Anonymous No.6992915]

>>6983546
>hike 'n strike

[Anonymous No.6992992]

>>6983546
i like DMC1

[Anonymous No.6993230]

>>6983546
viewtiful joe is the superior 6th gen bmup

FUCK tank controls

[Anonymous No.6993239]

>>6983932
7th gen's already retro, you senile fucking faggot.

[Anonymous No.6994657]

>>6992601
I can't believe those QAnon supporters were gay

[Anonymous No.6995185]

>>6983546
post your arcade bmup 1cc's
oh wait you don't have any lol

[Anonymous No.6995271]

Imagine thinking gen 6 / PS2 is some sacrilegious progress bigger than the rise of 3D (gen 4 / PS1) or HD.

Imagine thinking "retro" means "old" or "classic".

Where do you get such irrational beliefs from?

[Anonymous No.6995281]

>>6993230
awful taste. stay filtered

[Anonymous No.6996935]

>>6995281
ok tank cuck

[Anonymous No.6996979]

>>6990321
I'll just leave this here

[Anonymous No.6997010]

>>6983546
Hike n' strike
Dash n' bash

[Anonymous No.6997779]

>>6983546
Holy yikes

[Anonymous No.6998268]

>>6991808
I like to think we were friends, even though he was a demon

[Anonymous No.6998280]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxHAuEfb5Q8

here we go lads

[Anonymous No.6998289]

>>6998280
fuck yeah. that man is probably the best godhand player in the world, watching his videos is always and experience

[Anonymous No.6998325]

>>6987379
Fighting Force had a big push but it kinda poisoned the well. Nobody liked that game.

[Anonymous No.7000405]

listened to the Cane and Rinse podcast on this game. They dedicated an overly long portion to yapping about how "offensive" the game is regarding how the homos are portrayed, the female spanking, etc. They really went out of their way to make sure everyone knows that they are far too high status for that sort of thing, and it makes them "uncomfortable." It was a lot of time wasted that could have been spent praising an amazing and unique game in God Hand.

Why are all the hosts of retro games podcasts such massive faggots?

[Anonymous No.7000680]

The problem with a lot of Hike n' Strike and belt fighters is that the mayors cheat with super armor or invincibility

[Anonymous No.7000738]

not retro not retrro notr etro not ereto no terot noto retro not retro not retro not retro nonononoonon nNOOOO NT RETROOOO NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ITAS NOT RETRROROROORROOEDGOIKSXMJKOYHIUEK Anonymous 10/14/20(Wed)02:40:12 No.6987454▶>>6988139
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>>6983546 (OP)
its not retro so you need to go back, but i do love this game.
>>6986062
"What the...!"
>>6986069
"You alright?"
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Anonymous 10/14/20(Wed)06:58:27 No.6988139▶>>6988884 >>6990321
>>6983880
>>6984345
>>6986495
>>6987454
Read the sticky. The rules were changed.

>Retro gaming means platforms launched in 2001 and earlier, and official game titles for those platforms released no later than December 2007 (homebrew console games made after this date will be permitted). The Microsoft Xbox, Nintendo GameCube, Nintendo Game Boy Advance, and Sony PlayStation 2 will now be considered "retro".

God Hand released 2006, so it's retro. And really, how can you look at God Hand and then look at /v/ and think that the culture surrounding this game isn't retro at this point?
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Anonymous 10/14/20(Wed)14:52:21 No.6988882▶>>6989101 >>6991751
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>>6983546 (OP)
just beat this game for the first time about a week ago, loved it so much I immediately did a KMS run (pic rel). I loved that run as as well so I went to try a hard mode run... and I can't get past the first level, it's insane. Anyone have any tips/advice for hardmode? I thought I was good at this game after beating the sign run but this is just kicking my ass into the milky way.
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Anonymous 10/14/20(Wed)14:53:54 No.6988884▶>>6989070
>>6988139
not retro
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Anonymous 10/14/20(Wed)16:51:55 No.6989070▶>>6990321
>>6988884
not giving a fuck about you boomer
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Anonymous 10/14/20(Wed)17:11:18 No.6989101▶>>6990317
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[Anonymous No.7000873]

>>6987131
3D beat em ups in its most basic form is prevalent visually and in conept in modern day action games but it's nothing like what you would call a proper beat em up, they play way differently. Mostly, the issue is that the genre stagnated too much in its early days and when something proper showed up, the industry moved on.
The first attempt(s) were not pretty, Fighting Force 1/2 and Ninja: Shadow of Darkness from Eidos were okay from Core Design but the loss of Tomb Raider at the time really probably affected them more than it should have. Later games like Rising Zan: The Samurai Gunman, Gekido, and Oni later were decent different attempts at the same problem but each had their own issues. but it was still way too clunky. Devil May Cry was probably the first successful game adapting beat em up mechanics into its own action game take that evolved into stylish action games. Dynasty Warriors 2 also followed up with "non-traditional" beat-em up and spawned musou. Viewtiful Joe proved that there was still a market for beat-em ups even if it was done in 2D. But as far as proper 3D goes, there was a spawn of 3D street beat em ups that tried to tackle this from Beat Down: Fists of Vengeance to Final Fight: Streetwise and even Urban Reign before God Hand showed how it could be done. And by that time, it was too late for it and later games like it to take off. Not going to get into later history but action games today use something which is far from what it is like to play beat em ups even if it looks like it in its most basic form.

[Anonymous No.7001195]

>>7000680
In the good ones you just have to plan ahead and react accordingly so that you don't get dicked.

[Anonymous No.7002276]

it's hard to design controls for a beat 'em up like God Hand. A lot of people criticized God Hand for its "clunky" controls. But, when you play the game for a while, you realize that it's necessary for the controls to be just how they are in order to facilitate the gameplay mechanics. Switching to a more "modern" control style like you might find in God of War would completely fuck the game up.

[Anonymous No.7002496]

>>7002276
Blade of Darkness which was a 2001 pseudo-realistic hack and slash game also used tank controls and is known to have fun combat.
When the enemy attacks you in these games it actually feels threatening because you can't regain and advantageous position so easily. In a game like Dark Souls the enemies are usually threatening because it is your own attacks and not movement that is clunky and leaves you vulnerable. Without some clunkiness there is no risk or danger to the game.

[Anonymous No.7002515]

>>7002276
No, it would make the game more progressive and fair. God Hand is an example of archaic and ableist game design. Everyone is just as good and the world we live in should reflect that.

[Anonymous No.7002538]

>>7002515
Shut up faggot and go play some shmups to grow some hairs on that effeminate chest of yours.

[Anonymous No.7003080]

>>7002515
> more progressive
> archaic
> ableist
> egalitarianism
must be bait. hard to believe anyone can be such a faggot

[Anonymous No.7003110]

>>7002515
stay wrong retard.

[Anonymous No.7003123]

>>7002538
>>7003080
>>7003110
>arguments: 0