GARAGE: Bad Dream Adventure has finally been translated to English

[FELON No.6975313]

Released in 1999 only in Japan. Only 3000 copies were made. The game was considered lost media for several years and fetches several thousand dollars for a physical copy. It's a point and click adventure-esque game with survival and fishing elements. Very eerie and dark game with that early PC game vibe. The download link below includes the game (now considered abandonware) and the translation files and can be played on Windows 10 without any prior setup.

https://mega.nz/file/P1hgkKaQ#3Hk7VQokfoH50sp6uaacz68eC52FI77sQjoYKChAQPw

[Anonymous No.6975420]

>>6975313
Thank you anon, I will check this out.

[Anonymous No.6975430]

Pffft, what a garbage game. You wanna know what’s not lost media, and is actually fun for the whole family? Bowling for the Atari VCS!

[Anonymous No.6975447]

rare trash is still trash.

[Anonymous No.6975513]

>>6975313
More like GAR-BAGE: Bad Game Adventure

[Anonymous No.6975516]

>>6975313
I’ve wanted to play this for ages man.

[Anonymous No.6975549]

>>6975313
>machine translated
into the fucking trash it goes.

[Anonymous No.6975554]

>>6975549
>it plays almost exactly the same
Weeaboos on suicide watch.

[Anonymous No.6975556]

>>6975549
The text in the OP shot doesn't strike me as being machine translated, and if was, then someone edited it after.

[Anonymous No.6975565]

>>6975556
It is machine translated. When you run it, a command window will remain open that will display when text is being automatically translated. Also, the readme notes that the art assets were translated, but couldn't be re-inserted into the game, so you have to look them up in the Translated_Item_List folder. However, a lot of these have similar styles, so you might end up reading something that you're not supposed to be seeing yet.

Overall, I'm glad someone at least did this much. I didn't think I'd ever get to see what this game actually was like.

[Anonymous No.6975606]

>>6975554
>incoherent mess
>plays exactly the same
I mean I guess you can still click on shit the same way.

[Anonymous No.6975615]

>>6975606
>incoherent mess
Confirmed for not having played it. Cope.

[Anonymous No.6975663]

That game is absolutely depressing to me, I stopped after a few minutes.

[Anonymous No.6975726]

>>6975313
>abandonware
No such thing.

[Anonymous No.6975752]

>>6975313
very cool, thanks anon. Is the game actually a decent length? When a game gets such a limited release I'm inclined to believe that it's rather short but I could be wrong.

[FELON No.6975835]

>>6975549
>>6975565
It's not machine translated. The script runs in the background and pulls already translated lines from the translation.ini file when it encounters the same line during gameplay. You could open the translation file and see for yourself if you want. It was the only way the japanese lines could be replaced since the games source code was unavailable.

[FELON No.6975839]

>>6975752
If you're going in blind and intend on doing everything the game has to offer, it could take you 10+ hours. There is also a fishing mechanic and there are a ton of frogs you can catch including rare albino versions of every frog if you REALLY enjoy fishing.

[FELON No.6975842]

>>6975726
the creator refuses to rerelease it even physically. if that isn't abandoning the game idk what would be.

[Anonymous No.6975943]

>>6975839

[Anonymous No.6975993]

>>6975430
Bro... SIX VIDEO GAMES?! Holy shit they're basically losing money with that kind of value.

[Anonymous No.6976045]

>>6975447
TPBP

[Anonymous No.6976434]

>>6975447
>>6975513
>>6976045
fuck off faggot eat shit

[Anonymous No.6976660]

>>6975835
The "already translated lines" are machine translated, so there's a lot of completely wrong dialogue.

[Anonymous No.6976748]

Thanks for the translation effort, I'll be sure to download and try the game out.

I assume the translation is done by hand but even then machine translation can work well when revised by hand and reworked into coherent lines, though regardless of machine translation or not it's sad people are trying to use it as an excuse to dunk on the game / translators. It's free work and a field where translators willing to work on this kinda stuff are strewn incredibly thin.

From the work I've done revising and seen from russian speakers translating russian STALKER mods, it is hard work and some things are incredibly painful to translate well - why do you think professional localizations take so much liberties?

[Anonymous No.6976876]

game crashed two times while i was dicking around

[Anonymous No.6976957]

Does anyone have an image of the menu settings but translated? Mine are untranslated and I do not see an image in the included folder that translates them.

[Anonymous No.6977205]

>>6976957
nah but with a little trial and error it isn't that hard to figure out what all of the menu buttons do. your tools menu is sorted by main items/frogs and crabs/music scores/visual items/key items. when you talk to an npc and it gives you 3 options, the third option normally backs you out of the conversation with the exception of gimmun (the guy at the identity hall). the second option while talking to the machines at the department store gives you a list of useful information and the first option opens their shop menu.

[Anonymous No.6977220]

>>6976660
they were translated by a human. some liberties were taken to make select dialogue make sense in english. many sentence lines in the game were split up into multiple seperate lines so if it was machine translated, the dialogue would make NO sense.

[Anonymous No.6977398]

>>6977220
It's just DeepL polished up a bit to not sound funky at parts, but it's still obvious in the translation, like when 原想体 is translated to "protoplasm" but then a couple lines later it's translated to "The Original Mind", or when 循環器系 is translated to "cardiovascular system", or 順応堂 being "Identity Hall", or 雌機械 being called both "female machine" and "bitch machine", etc.

Though I'm not sure if the translator is claiming it's not machine translated, or if they're just being vague, either way it just seems like they're fooling the audience a bit. I really would've thought more people who actually know Japanese well enough would be willing to help translate it but maybe not. (Also to add I've never played through the game for more than an hour myself)

[Anonymous No.6977424]

>>6977398
>Though I'm not sure if the translator is claiming it's not machine translated, or if they're just being vague

[Anonymous No.6977451]

>>6977424
Well that's fine then if it's stated explicitly, though it doesn't really say in the readme file. Also I noticed the fact that the translation file is really bloated and you can tell at the top with all the "There were X "Rust Imposters" in the trap.", so basically every single item dialogue is there instead of just "You got item (variable)" being there once.

[Anonymous No.6977458]

Don't bother with muh machine translation faggots, OP. They are absolute faggots who don't want people to enjoy translated games.
Thanks for your work.

[Anonymous No.6977469]

>>6976748
>machine translation can work well when revised by hand and reworked into coherent lines,
Sure, if you're into fan fiction.

[Anonymous No.6977486]

>>6976660
the dialogue isn't actually that bad, but there are definitely some weird translations for game/story terms like >>6977398 said

[Anonymous No.6977508]

>>6975313
Would it be possible to play this version on a period-accurate Windows 98 machine?

[Anonymous No.6977560]

>>6977469
If that's how you want to cope with being an insufferable faggot who asks too much out of people, sure. It might surprise you to know that even native speakers / translators will use Google Translate, DeepL, Yandex, etc. It's just convenient, especially for basic phrases and words.

Go ask a Japanese or Russian speaker to translate something 1:1 with no localization changes made what-so-ever, and tell me whether you can understand it or not.

[Anonymous No.6977649]

>>6977508
i don't think it would work but don't quote me on that. the translation tools require other programs to run in the background that might not work on windows 98.

[Anonymous No.6977937]

>>6977424
Thanks. That clears it up. So 100% machine translated. Only rewritten and reformatted.

>>6977451
The translation engine just takes a string and outputs whatever it matches. It could be optimized to reduce the size of an insignificantly large text file but why even bother. Time would be better spent working on support for mapping prerendered graphics. The translation done a few years back did this and it's not very difficult once you have the basics of the engine in place.

[Anonymous No.6978087]

>>6977560
Any competent person would use a dictionary if they don't know the meaning of a word over a shitty machine translation service. Also if you need help with common short phrases I don't think you would know the language well enough to work on translating in the first place. I know first hand how shit DeepL is, I was recently dealing hacking with a Chinese game which I got a friend to translate. And the difference between some cleaned up DeepL translation that I used as a placeholder and his translation was ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.6978136]

i farted.

[Anonymous No.6978296]

>>6978087
The translators I work with do use dictionaries, but it doesn't really counter the fact that machine translation tools are just handy. If what it spits out (which will typically only be 2-3 sentences anyway) is jank they'll fix it or it'll get revised, it's just about saving time and energy.

Obviously a native speaker will get it better than someone solely using machine translation, was not really my goal to suggest otherwise, my point was that you can get serviceable translation with revised machine translated dialogue. As for your anecdote, I don't know what to say aside from maybe your translation just sucked or the project you were working on had language too obscure (dialect, slang, etc) for a machine translator to pick up on.

That's a big problem with Russian STALKER mod translations, even if you're a native Russian speaker it won't do you that well if you don't understand any zek. Zek being gangster slang.

[Anonymous No.6978492]

>>6975313
Neeeeeat

[Anonymous No.6978553]

>>6977458
imagine playing games with nonsence shit instead of actual translation retard

[Anonymous No.6978603]

>>6978553
ignorance lol. in terms of this translation specifically, the machine translation was used simply as a base. every line that didn't make sense was revised and changed. the game was played several times over to make sure that all dialogue made sense in the context of each scene and was looked over by a japanese speaker. not to mention that this was done for free and there's literally no alternative. i'm assuming you have no interest in this anyways, otherwise you'd be happy that any way to experience the game in english exists at all. the game can be understood just fine from start to finish and can be completed with little to no issues. if you actually played it for 10-20 minutes you'd realize that.

[Anonymous No.6978614]

>>6978136
Next time can you facesit me please >.<

[Anonymous No.6978716]

>>6978603
Are turds who sperg about using machine translation in any form common in the japanese game translation scene? Over in the STALKER community it's pretty chill, translated anything is rare enough to the point where nobody really complains about a translation unless it's just incomprehensible, and even then you'll still get people who will play it.

Pro tip: Use Google Sheets to organize text that needs to be translated, that way it's easier to keep an eye on such things, revise on the fly, or work in a group. Plus translators or revisers can leave comments.

[Anonymous No.6978760]

>>6978296
That's "fenya" not "zek". Seems that you're not blatnoy enough, bratishka.

[Anonymous No.6978767]

>>6978760
I'm not a translator myself, I just do some revision stuff and help organize a lot of stuff. I've heard them refer to the slang in a mod, NLC 7, as "zek" so that's what I thought it was.

My bad, now that I look back in the chats they referred to zek as both prison slang, and to quote a member:
"nah, nothing offensive, talking in zek to regular people is like a guy from rural America talking in slang to a British guy from London, they just would consider you really weird"

[Anonymous No.6978790]

>>6978767
"Zek" is literally just a shortened version of зaключённый (prisoner). So that stands for the group of people not specific language. Prison slang is usually called "fenya" or "blatnoy" in Russia and a lot of people ironically use it here and there for comedic effect.

[Anonymous No.6978806]

>>6978790
Makes sense.
Thanks for the lesson, anon.

[Anonymous No.6978816]

>>6977469
Sure, why not. I'll take a rough translation that otherwise flows naturally to some stilted, faithfully translated nip garbage. I bet you've whined about based woolsey in dozens of threads over the years.

[Anonymous No.6978834]

>>6977398
Well I hope they go back and refine the translation if this is true. These days it's become completely normal for fan translators to want to avoid translating games that already have something put out no matter how shitty it is, either because they're scared to step on the toes of the RHDN conclave or that their work won't see any support given that people nowadays only want the first one available, and not the best one. If these guys are just going to leave it as is then it might not be until an official localization is made that we see something that improves on it.

[Anonymous No.6978843]

>>6977398
>I really would've thought more people who actually know Japanese well enough would be willing to help translate it but maybe not.
The issue is that less and less fluent translators are available for fan translation projects like this, and those that are available don't want to be working for free in a niche part of the game community where your online social standing is more important than actual skill. It would be super frustrating if a tier 3 translator keeps getting walled off by another in the group that knows way less but carries all the clout, this drama stuff is important to understand even if the mods keep deleting it since it has severe effects on project development. Plus if you actually know Japanese then you're either living in Japan or you're working on an official translation project for Japanese media where you actually get paid for your knowledge. That's where most of the old guard wound up in anyways.

[Anonymous No.6979120]

wtf was that ending

[Anonymous No.6979340]

So what I'm taking from this thread is that I should just wait another five years for a more polished translation?

[Anonymous No.6979452]

>>6975313
Fantastic. I'll give it a go through.

[Anonymous No.6979460]

>>6977398
DeepL is pretty great though. Perhaps it's not completely accurate but I use it to read stories on Pixiv and I can compare it to a few things that get translated from it (story wise). It's very accurate for the most part, the main issue is when it comes to technical/SF terms especially those specific to a certain universe or setting.

[Anonymous No.6979626]

>>6978834
it's been worked on and refined for months now. plus there's nothing stating that it can't be fixed even more if people find any issues within the game. the download could be removed and replaced at any time. also, there will never be an official localization of this.

[Anonymous No.6979630]

>>6979340
No. This version is perfectly fine.

[Anonymous No.6979727]

I mean, realistically, if it's just pulling from a dialog file and inserting the text couldn't somebody who knows more japanese at some point just edit the dialog file to be more correct and release it, or would there need to be a lot of work done behind the scenes for the insertation?

[Anonymous No.6979747]

the game crashed everytime i interact with the doors in the Clearwater Manor

[Anonymous No.6979795]

>99% of the enjoyment of this game comes from the text
>would prefer to play it with the original text, don't care much for a version where the script accuracy is "based on what the machine tl says, i THINK this is what's going on, i'll just rewrite it so that it makes sense with the rest of my rewrites"
>NOOOOOOOO WHO CARES IF IT'S GUESSLATION AND CLEANED UP MACHINE TL THAT GETS A TON OF SHIT WRONG YOU SHOULD BE GRATEFUL YOU HAVE ANYTHING AT ALL AHHHHHHH
haha...

[Anonymous No.6979823]

>>6979795
the game isn't that complex dude

[Anonymous No.6979829]

>>6979727
yes, it could easily be edited over if necessary. however, if a native japanese speaker did look over the text, they would realize that it's already plenty accurate.

[Anonymous No.6979864]

Is there just one autist going mad in this thread? The Poster count hasn't gone up in a bit yet I keep seeing the same "TRANSLATION MACHINE SUCKS" posts. Like who cares as long as some people can gain enjoyment from it?

[Anonymous No.6980295]

>>6979747
what are you running the game on? it hasn't ever crashed for me on windows 10 and my computer is horse shit

[Anonymous No.6980376]

>>6975313
i was just about to post a thread asking about this, thanks a million, anon

[Anonymous No.6980568]

>>6980295
Windows 7

[Anonymous No.6980602]

>>6980568
ah that's unfortunate. i don't think the translation tools are stable enough to work on windows 7

[Anonymous No.6981514]

>>6979727
Yes. That's the whole point. The guys who did the translation should have done a MT and left it up to others to fix it. And announced it. Faggots would have been falling over each other for the epen and the faggots looking for something to bit about would have to sperg out over something else.

>>6979829
>if a native japanese speaker did look over the text, they would realize that it's already plenty accurate.
Says the EOP with low standards

[Anonymous No.6981557]

anybody know how to get past this?

[Anonymous No.6981673]

>>6981557
that's supposed to happen. the game is right behind that window. you can minimize or move that window elsewhere

[Anonymous No.6981681]

>>6975313
I'm a Linuxfag and I don't know how to use WINE all that well, fug
I guess I can try it though

[Anonymous No.6981721]

>>6981681
i'm afraid it isn't optimized to work on anything other than windows 10 :(

[Anonymous No.6981806]

>>6981721
Wine can be "windows 10"... Kind of. It's a bit of a crapshoot but it's worth trying.

[Anonymous No.6981819]

>be a fetal android with poor fuel retention, a broken voicebox, and no identity
>found in filthy bilgewater by a kind stranger who stores me in his closet
>roll across a track for about an hour meeting various creepy androids and haunted dolls and shit who can't hear me when i try to speak
>finally purchase a tune-up from a helpful android merchant who repairs my voicebox
>notice that i'm low on fuel, enter a room that has "fuel" written on the outside wall
>immediately find myself face to face with a female robot who propositions me for sex by unlatching her groin lid and revealing her vagina
>i need fuel so i have sex with her

Hm.

[Anonymous No.6981865]

>>6979864
Yes.

[Anonymous No.6981871]

>n-no my machine translation is totally accurate because it makes a sentence that makes sense even if the words are totally different from the original meaning! it doesn't matter as long as you can understand something out of it! the original dialogue doesn't matter, it's the feeling that matters! if the machine translation says ohayou means goodbye it must be accurate! it was hand-edited by someone who doesn't know japanese so it's a good translation!

why is the fan translation "community" so retarded?

[Anonymous No.6981887]

>>6981871
Because muh Reddit karma desu

Translation is basically localisation, making it actually sensical for a native to understand and have it flow properly, while retaining the same message and impact as the original text. Which is something machine translation basically won’t be able to do, ever, without proper knowledge/context of the meaning of whatever’s fed to it.

Which is not going to work in a lot of technical contexts.

[Anonymous No.6982003]

>>6981871
how about you actually try it out instead of whining like an entitled brat? why are you so convinced that it won't make sense? it's not like the text is copied and pasted word for word from deepl. the game isn't that complex to begin with. this was all done for free and the game is free. why are you so upset lmao

[Anonymous No.6982007]

>>6981819
are you not aroused?

[Anonymous No.6982013]

>>6982007
muh dick

[Anonymous No.6982019]

>>6975313
Fuck yeah, just in time for Halloween

[Anonymous No.6982083]

>>6981557
Sure, it's on github, let me just go into the source and che-
Sorry. The guy who wrote it is faggot.

[Anonymous No.6982112]

Just stop responding to the guy seething about "m-muh machine translation". It's literally one guy. The IP count doesn't go up when he posts so it's quite literally just one sad depressed dude going off on a tangent, checking for replies everyday just so he can seethe more about it. It's fucking sad what mental illness can do to you.

[Anonymous No.6982373]

>>6982112
Did the IP count go up when you posted? No? So according to your logic you must be that faggot? Yet somehow you're even more retarded than him.

[Anonymous No.6982742]

>>6982373
look guys, we found him

[Anonymous No.6982924]

>>6982003
Because I know Japanese so I don't have to deal with morons like you and your fuckbuddies who think that throwing sentences in glorified Google Translate and editing them when you don't know a drop of Japanese produces a half decent translation.

[Anonymous No.6983062]

>>6982924
If you know Japanese then why don't you do a better translation?

[Anonymous No.6983119]

Does anyone have a mirror of the unmodified game that was uploaded to vr? Plus the scans that the dumper made?

[Anonymous No.6983123]

>>6983062
Because like pretty much everyone who actually knows Japanese I have better shit to do.

You, assuming you are part of this project, and other fan translators, do it (poorly) because they need it themselves. You have no idea how accurate the result is. Your "work" should at least have a huge disclaimer that this is an machine translation edited by EOPs.

Beginner/low intermediate Japanese learners do it (also poorly) because it takes them hours and thousands of GTranslate/dictionary lookups to get through an average text and it lets them justify the investment and learn in the process. They frequently misinterpret words and expressions but in the large majority of cases of fan translation it's the best you are going to get.

I went through that beginner phase and translated a few things years ago. Now I am fluent enough to read most texts without looking things up so I'd rather spend free time reading, watching or playing untranslated media. Competent fan translation is as thankless as it gets, might as well let EOPs have their machine translations.

[Anonymous No.6983146]

>>6983123
based

[Anonymous No.6983163]

>>6983123
That all makes enough sense to me, but you really can't blame people for playing an imperfect fan translation when there are no other options on the table. I have a big enough brain I fit two ideas in my head at the same time: that this particular fan translation is imperfect and inaccurate, and that I'm happy that I have a way to play Garage in English. Personally I appreciate machinebro for putting the work in even if it's unacademic or even a hackjob. And you think you can scold people out of playing this cool obscure game without offering them anything as an alternative? Come on man, that's not how people work.

[Anonymous No.6983176]

>>6983163
I didn't scold anyone, my first post is >>6981871. The denial in this thread and the dishonesty of OP who is insulting people for pointing out that it is machine translated and constantly tries to detract from it are just pathetic.

[Anonymous No.6983192]

>>6983176
I'm not enough of a 4chan sleuth to figure out which anonymous post belong to which person, all I saw was you calling people retarded and deluded. Cheers! I'm gonna play garage.

[Anonymous No.6983198]

>>6983192
Hope you enjoy your fanfiction

[Anonymous No.6983214]

>>6983198
I have and will.

[Anonymous No.6983335]

>>6983119
check lostmedia wiki, the owner was the one who bought the dumped copy from yahoojp years ago

[Anonymous No.6983383]

>>6983198
every unofficial translation/localization is fanfiction.

[Anonymous No.6984769]

>>6982742
>look guys, i'm double nigger retarded
zoom zoom

>>6983062
>If you really know how to do my homework, mommy, why don't you do it for me?
Did this ever work for a single kid ever?

[Anonymous No.6984773]

>>6983163
>I have a big enough brain

[Anonymous No.6984836]

>>6984773
"From each according to their ability, to each according to their needs"

>>6984773
Nice reaction GIF. What's next, Jim from The Office smirking at the camera?

[Anonymous No.6984962]

>>6984769
just play the game or move on dude nobody cares

[Anonymous No.6985126]

>>6984962
>embarrass yourself shitposting
>get laughed at
>j-j-just play the game
Did this ever work for a single kid ever?
I played the game years ago ya dumb EOP zoomie

[Anonymous No.6985484]

>>6983335
the original links are down
all i could find was the mirror on myabandonware, which is called "Garage_Win_EN.zip"
not sure if the disc image data inside is unmodified...

[Anonymous No.6985582]

>>6985484
apparently there is a mirror on archive.org
i'm going to assume its valid, but if someone could post their sha256s from the original upload, that would be nice

[Anonymous No.6985603]

>>6985582
seems like only a lossy dump is available. was this how it was originally posted - as .ecm? (there is a .img file in the zip on myabandonware, but its just converted from the .ecm)

[Anonymous No.6986987]

this game looks like something only suicidal trannies would care about

[Anonymous No.6988125]

>>6975313
Based felon

[Anonymous No.6988312]

>>6975313
>imagine paying several thousand dollars for shovelware
I'm a rare data hoarder myself, but you have to be utterly retarded to pay that amount of money.

[Anonymous No.6988371]

>>6988312
>imagine thinking less than a grand is several thousand dollars
There's a reason you hoard data instead of things that require payment using financial instruments acquired though skills there's a demand for.

[Anonymous No.6989182]

>>6988371
what reason.

[Anonymous No.6989926]

>>6981681
>WINE
jut tried it, 'wine cmd LaunchGame.bat' doesn't work but 'wine Garage.exe' works until a red loading screen then crashes, haven't tried wine stable or testing since I'm using staging.

[Anonymous No.6990981]

Ama guys i just watched someone play the game

[Anonymous No.6991054]

>>6990981
what quality was the stream

[Anonymous No.6991093]

original download is dead. updated link if anyone wants it: https://mega(dot)nz/#file/ix5wHAoZ#loU2vtLTO0F86OJGf3ZK6mQZA8nlHfoz1IT5DxH25Sk

[Anonymous No.6991096]

>>6989926
garage.exe is just the original japanese version of the game. if that can't run on wine, there's no way the translated version will either

[Anonymous No.6991098]

>>6975313
original download is dead. updated link if anyone wants it:

https://mega.nz/#file/ix5wHAoZ#loU2vtLTO0F86OJGf3ZK6mQZA8nlHfoz1IT5DxH25Sk

[Anonymous No.6991104]

>>6991054
Idk it was on discord but it looked good

[Anonymous No.6992382]

>>6991098
thank you squire