/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.6973780]

Soul.

[Anonymous No.6973782]

if that's what you wanna call it, sure

[Anonymous No.6973795]

>>6973780
Defend this.

[Anonymous No.6973801]

>>6973780
>soul
>dark as my soul shadow the hedgehog i'm a closet fag ashamed of owning a gamecube black edition

[Anonymous No.6973804]

Only Smashfags like this controller.

[Anonymous No.6973805]

>>6973795
It's true its pretty bad, I actually use a gameboy advance over a link cable when I play games on the gameboy player

[Anonymous No.6973808]

just like n64, another shitty nintendo controller designed to play nintendo games

[Anonymous No.6973814]

>>6973780
Crazy how regressive this controller was.

[Anonymous No.6973847]

>>6973780
You needed to mod it and replace the nub with another thumbstick.

[Anonymous No.6973873]

>>6973795
It's the same one used on the original GameBoy Advance. There's nothing wrong with it.

[Anonymous No.6973893]

The gamecube controller has the greatest analog stick ever made. It's got the perfect amount of resistance (fresh ones anyway), the rubber textured grip feels great and it's fucking notched. Why oh why are there no modern controllers with notched sticks? They're fucking fantastic

C-stick isn't quite up to par though

[Anonymous No.6973896]

>>6973795
You can’t. It’s horrible.

[Anonymous No.6973903]

>>6973847
Like this then it's a great if not one of the best controllers.

[Anonymous No.6973917]

>>6973893
it wears down though

[Anonymous No.6973918]

>>6973780
This controller looks and sounds like a baby's toy. I can't think of a clackier controller. That said, it is pretty comfy and responsive even if the dpad is too small.

[Anonymous No.6973937]

This is the greatest control ever made, prove me wrong

[Anonymous No.6973987]

>>6973937
>blocks your path

[Anonymous No.6973998]

>>6973903

Not even close to being great. It feels like a cheap toy, especially compared to Xbox controllers and DS2. Also this fucking dpad. Also this fucking button placement and shapes. There's nothing good about it.

[Anonymous No.6974009]

The white ones they released in Japan have much longer cables, and rumble unlike the Wavebird, making them superior for all intents and purposes.

[Anonymous No.6974013]

This is objectively the last good controller Nintendo ever made

[Anonymous No.6974015]

>>6974009
The new ones they make feel a little too light and not quite as good overall, but the cable is way longer so that's what I use when i cube it up

[Anonymous No.6974021]

>>6974013
nah the wiiu pro and the switch bro are both excellent, despite being overpriced
like the fact that i can sync my switch pro controller with my PC and play games on steam using flickstick control schemes using the gyro is pretty great

[Anonymous No.6974029]

how bad does smash have to fry your brain before you start liking this monstrosity

[Anonymous No.6974036]

>>6973893
You can't click it down though, so it was less functional than its competitors. Really the controller fundamentally means it cannot play certain multi plat games. And it didn't (not simply because of the controller but it was definitely a factor). There's a good reason why The Wii U pro controller and Switch pro controller are xbox copies.

[Anonymous No.6974037]

>>6974015
Are you talking about the ones they make for Smash Bros? The one I posted they released a little while after the Wii, I imported two when they came out and they actually feel a little bit heavy/chunky to me. I actually like them a little less than the original GameCube controllers, but not because there's anything wrong with them, just because it's not quite "right" to me

[Anonymous No.6974049]

>>6974037
yeah, no i know i gotcha
the ones they make now for smash are what im talkin bout but i know the one you posted is a bit older

[Anonymous No.6974051]

>>6973780
it's unnecessarily cumbersome
ds2 was objectively much better

[Anonymous No.6974056]

>>6974051
personally I don't like the sticks being lined up and so close together, instead of one up one down, but thats splitting hairs i guess

[Anonymous No.6974058]

>>6973998
>it feels like a cheap toy
???
In my experience it's one of the most solidly put together controls I own. Like the console itself it feels like a tank

Also what's wrong with the button placement? That's one of the best things about it. The comically large A button feeps great since its the primary button used in most gamecube games, and its position allows easy access to every other button while holding it down. With the diamond layout you'd its really awkward to say, hit triangle while holding down x. Less so hitting O, but still more cumbersome than hitting x on the gamecube controller while holding A

[Anonymous No.6974060]

>>6974056
I'm surprised sony has stuck to their guns for so long and not changed it, even though in 3d games the joystick is primary and should be in the prime real estate of the controller. I guess they feel its an iconic design and that's worth more than being "better", especially since "better" would be admitting that the xbox design is superior.

[Anonymous No.6974061]

>>6974056
diagonal layout is more ergonomic
suprised sony refuses to change in this respect

[Anonymous No.6974076]

>>6973795
Is there any Gamecube-controller not by Nintendo that fixes the d-pad?

Apart from the d-pad the controller is literally perfect, especially with the games made specifically for the Gamecube (Metroid Prime, Smash, P.N.03, Killer 7 etc.)

[Anonymous No.6974079]

>>6973780
>>6973795
Small D-pad aside, I think this is one of the best pads ever. Unlike the PS controller, the handles are genuinely ergonomic - not just two utilitarian conical protrusions.

I really like the main stick too - the octo-ring is a godsend for certain games (like Super Monkey Ball - I played the PS2 version and kept veering off thin long parts because it was harder to lock the stick into a perfect upward motion (with no lateral component).

The C-stick is a bit lame, but useful enough. The face button layout is nice and the analogue triggers have a fantastic response (Z is a bit awkwardly placed though).

In addition, this has to be the most solidly-built pad I've ever used - it's so sturdy and tough.

Amazing pad.

[Anonymous No.6974086]

>>6974079
>analogue triggers have a fantastic response
And let's not forget the click at the end of their travel - great idea.

[Anonymous No.6974089]

>>6974076
How is it perfect? It's missing inputs that prevents it from playing certain games. It doesn't even make sense in the process. Most glaringly it has a secondary trigger on the right but not on the left. It's a mystifying decision.

[Anonymous No.6974108]

>>6974076
There's the Hori gameboy player controller, but that doesn't have analog sticks so i dont think that's what you mean

[Anonymous No.6974124]

>>6974079
>>6974086
And I may as well add that I love the squashy start button too,

[Anonymous No.6974151]

>>6974089
Because it felt comfortable as hell and you could literally play with the controller the whole day several days in a row without your hands cramping.

>>6974108
Thanks, but yeah I wish there was something that looked just like the Gamecube controller but with a better d-pad. The Gamecube controller for the Switch looks like it maybe could be better but I haven't tried it and I don't own a switch.

[Anonymous No.6974160]

>make the best controller ever even better
>and then fuck up the thumbsticks with that awful Wii design
I seriously don't know what they were thinking with Wii analog sticks and beyond. The GC was perfect. Grippy, but not sweaty, it's the best analog stick ever.

The Wii classic pro has superior D pad, triggers, and face buttons, but it fucks it all up with those abominations of analog sticks. I wonder if anyone has ever tried opening one up and just replacing the sticks with GC ones?

[Anonymous No.6974161]

>>6974151
>Because it felt comfortable as hell and you could literally play with the controller the whole day several days in a row without your hands cramping.
I will concede that the GameCube was ergonomic, and more so than the duelshock, but no more than the Xbox Controller S, which was much more intelligently designed, so much so that other than the black and white buttons becoming secondary triggers during the 360, has become the industry standard for controllers.

[Anonymous No.6974178]

>>6973998
The analog stick is the most luxurious, tight and precise analog stick ever made, the controller molds into the hands perfectly. The buttons yeah maybe it they had regular circular ones it would be considered a classic today.

[Anonymous No.6974181]

>>6974076
>Apart from the d-pad
And the C-stick, and the dogshit triggers that require far too much force for the sake of a gimmicky 2 stage trigger that isn't used in 99% of games anyway? Also the rumble is shit because it's at the back of the controller because the handles are too small.

It's a top tier controller, but I'd never use it on anything but gamecube games.

[Anonymous No.6974204]

>>6974061
Symmetrical allows for more options and flexibility in games that are pretty iconic playstation titles.

[Anonymous No.6974210]

>>6974161
I guess it depends on the game too. On the xbox controller, the face buttons are good if you play games where all the buttons are used equally. But for games where one button is used more than the others, the gamecubes A button in the middle is just so comfy.

>>6974181
Well I like the triggers, they have that satisfying ka-chunk. And the c-stick is alright in games made for it.

[Anonymous No.6974213]

Maybe im just weird, but I have a wavebird and the dpad on it feels fine? It feels exactly like the OG GBA

In comparison I have a smash ultimate gamecube controller and the dpad does feel like garbage. Its far too resistant and mushy. But my wavebird one requires less force and there's more tactility when pressing each individual direction

Anyone else have a wavebird to compare? Because im wondering if people just hate the modern rereleases of the controller, or if the wavebird has slightly different internals

[Anonymous No.6974215]

>>6974210
>>Well I like the triggers
They have way too much travel. I was playing Viewtiful Joe earlier, and I was actually pissed off at how annoying it was to pull the trigger down half the way every time just to activate slo-mo.

[Anonymous No.6974221]

>>6974210
>But for games where one button is used more than the others, the gamecubes A button in the middle is just so comfy.
For sure. The GameCube controller, like the N64 controller, was made with Nintendo games specifically in mind. That allows for tailored experiences with those games, however it also limits the capabilities of the platform (thanks in no small part to the size of the discs as well). It's a trend that continues to this way where nintendo consoles are primarily bought to play nintendo games, and that's clearly a business model that works for them.

I find the GameCube (like the n64) much easier to appreciate in retrospect. At the time they felt grossly outclassed by their competitors and I'm glad I missed out on them.

[Anonymous No.6974226]

>>6974213
I've got a GBA and a regular GC controller next to me, and comparing them they are actually identical. But the GC one feels so much worse in use, I think it's because you have to constantly move to and from it so you're not properly centered, and it's at an uncomfortable angle for that kind of pressing down input.

I'm not the biggest fan of the GBAs D-pad to begin with though, I think it's one of the weaker ones. Only good for holding directions.

[Anonymous No.6974245]

>>6974215
>They have way too much travel.
Maybe compared to the playstation, the xbox has about the same travel distance.

[Anonymous No.6974246]

the layout is retarded any action game that requires the use of at least 3 of the face buttons in quisk succession suffers from this due to how far way B is from X and Y

[Anonymous No.6974257]

>>6973873
One is on a small handheld mean't to fit in your pocket, the other is on a full fledged controller.

[Anonymous No.6974268]

>>6974245
The Xbox has dogshit triggers. Dreamcast too.

I really can't think of any time in a console game that I wanted more control than off > half on > fully on. And 99% of the time, you don't even need half on.

[Anonymous No.6974276]

>>6973873
lol it's even smaller than the one on the original GBA, plus the placement makes it more awkward to use. If the original GBA had the exact Gamecube d-pad instead of the one it does have, even that would be an improvement over the Gamecube controller's d-pad because you wouldn't have to angle your thumb down to use it

[Anonymous No.6974282]

>>6974276
>smaller
They're identical. I just checked, 17.6mm across on both.

It's bad because of placement and the weird recess the gamecube has for it.

[Anonymous No.6974386]

>That allows for tailored experiences with those games, however it also limits the capabilities of the platform
And a lot of game studios wanted to make platform independent games during the 6th gen, which meant the Gamecube suffered since it wasn't the best system for those games, if they could even be converted.

But it also gave birth to some interesting stuff we probably wouldn't have seen if the controller had been more generic. Like Nintendo's own games of course but also the Capcom Five games. And on the flip side, Katamari probably wouldn't have been played the way it is if it weren't for the ps2 controllers symmetrical design.

[Anonymous No.6974392]

>>6974221
>That allows for tailored experiences with those games, however it also limits the capabilities of the platform
And a lot of game studios wanted to make platform independent games during the 6th gen, which meant the Gamecube suffered since it wasn't the best system for those games, if they could even be converted.

But it also gave birth to some interesting stuff we probably wouldn't have seen if the controller had been more generic. Like Nintendo's own games of course but also the Capcom Five games. And on the flip side, Katamari probably wouldn't have been played the way it is if it weren't for the ps2 controllers symmetrical design.

[Anonymous No.6974431]

>>6973795
NO ONE USES THE FUCKING D-PAD STOP FUCKIGN WHINING ABOUT THIS SHIT YOU FUCKING AUTIST

[Anonymous No.6974440]

>>6974431

[Anonymous No.6974664]

Wish they would bring back that button layout. It's only really bad for fighting games, and people can just buy a stick if they're serious about playing those.

[Anonymous No.6974670]

>>6974431
I played a lot of games with the D-pad. Seemed fine to me at the time. Maybe I'm just stupid.

[Anonymous No.6974704]

>>6973780
Not the worst design, but that microdick d-pad was worthless.

[Anonymous No.6974827]

>>6973780
-less piece of shit, this is why playing third party games on gamecube is shit.

[Anonymous No.6974871]

where do I even buy a good controller for melee?

[Anonymous No.6974931]

>>6973804
agreed

I hate the gc controller, flaky piece of shit that has a horrid analogue stick and the other buttons are just... ugh, no.

[Anonymous No.6974945]

>>6974827
lol playing third party games on gamecube, play them on the Xbox instead... or heck even the PS2, but the Xbox will at least bring the graphics on par with the GC

neither the DS2 nor the Xbox controller also doesn’t feel and look like a fucking child’s toy nor have garbage analogue sticks, non-separate shoulder buttons, nor does the buttons feel like shit to push down.

I think there’s a driver for OG Xbox on windows, it should also work fine on Linux. 64bit windows needs a lot of hurdles and it will likely break on w10 but who here would use that junk

[Anonymous No.6974948]

>>6974931
>>6974945
I don't understand how anyone could dislike the primary gamecube analog stick, I fucking hate that I can't find a modern controller that has one remotely the same. It feels so fucking good

[Anonymous No.6975026]

>>6974948
it feels good on the thumb but responds horribly

[Anonymous No.6975037]

>>6974160
The lower case letters make me want to throw this thing at the wall. Also needing to plug it into my wii-remote is retarded.

[Anonymous No.6975048]

>>6974431
A d-pad is important for all kinds of 2d games, and the gamecube's d-pad sucks.

[Anonymous No.6975107]

>dude it looks like a toy
Imagine being this insecure. It's designed to be ergonomic, and it feels good.
Also, only bitches bought the black Gamecube. Get a purple one like a real nigga.

[Anonymous No.6975859]

>>6973780
felt like shit in 2001. feels like shit now. i hate this stupid controller. always did.

[Anonymous No.6976119]

My Top

1-Gamecube Controller with Nintendo exclusive games = Best Pad Ever
2- Xbox Pad S Controller.
3- Dualshock 2
4- Xbox Duke Pad
5- GC Controller With other games = Worst Pad Ever

[Anonymous No.6976605]

>>6975026
>responds horribly
Its the best stick I've found for playing super monkey ball, which is a very tight and precise game. Not sure what you mean about it being unresponsive

[Anonymous No.6978330]

>>6975048
yeah, all the 2d games on gamecube

[Anonymous No.6978349]

>>6973780
>stupid button arrangement that only favors certain types of games
>shit dpad
>cheap c-stick nub that's bad for prolonged use
>lack of buttons compared to other controllers
Only Nintencels like this controller.

[Anonymous No.6978351]

>>6978330
And all the GBA games too.

[Anonymous No.6978354]

>>6978330
That's right.

[Anonymous No.6978365]

>>6973780
You don't know hell until you've tried playing SNES games with this thing.

[Anonymous No.6978369]

>>6978349
b-b-but it feels good in your hands!!!

[Anonymous No.6978372]

>>6978365
>tfw Zelda Collector's edition was unplayable until I bought a Hori

[Anonymous No.6978402]

>>6973795
>Nintendo fucks up with the joystick on the N64. Welp, guess its time to reverse it and fuck up the dpad instead. Please understand

[Anonymous No.6978413]

>>6978402
>Wii remote: Let's just fuck everything up

[Anonymous No.6978439]

>>6978413
Holding the Wiimote sideways was god tier for 2D games like Wario Land V at least.

[Anonymous No.6978445]

>>6973780
Cringe.

[Anonymous No.6978494]

>>6973804
This

[Anonymous No.6978884]

>>6978439
It was too fucking small and uncomfortable. I think the wii remote is pretty well designed, honestly. It feels very sturdy in the hand, the buttons all feel nice, the only issue I have with it is I feel like they should've moved the A button down slightly and brought the D pad down too.

[Anonymous No.6979442]

>>6974431
Try to play GC port of resident Evil 2 with it

[Anonymous No.6980604]

>>6973780
It sucks. Easily the worst sixth gen controller behind dc.

[Anonymous No.6980636]

I liked it better than the N64 controller. It still doesn't hold a candle to the Dualshock line, though.

[Anonymous No.6980821]

>>6980636
Thats the only thing a gamecube fan can say. Better then 64.

[Anonymous No.6980847]

>>6973987
>symmetrical sticks
ewwwwwwwwwwwwww

[Anonymous No.6980992]

>>6974060
>>6974061

I personally prefer symmetrical design. I have ds4 and xbone controllers for emulation and I choose ds4 every time I want to play something. I have quite big hands and still it feels right.

[Anonymous No.6981005]

>>6978402
The N64 joystick is good, when it's not worn down.

[Anonymous No.6981047]

>>6973780
Step aside, faggots.

[Anonymous No.6981125]

>>6974151
>The Gamecube controller for the Switch looks like it maybe could be better but I haven't tried it and I don't own a switch.
It's an identical controller--it is the gamecube controller with a gamecube controller port. (you need an adapter to use it on the switch.) It was made specifically for super smash bros.