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Maybe is only nostalgia googles but, i seriously thinks that 1996 - 2004 was the fucking golden age of gaming.
Pc mustard race, consolefags, both was awesome.
So, lets post old glorious games' covers.

>> No.695281
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Also, the fucking game centers/arcade games scene was fucking huge!

>> No.695285
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PC and Consoles market was almost completelly separated.
There was only few ports/crossplatforms.

>> No.695291
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I'd agree that it was the PC's golden age of gaming.

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>> No.695302
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Also, i remember when i bought my 3D Monster VooDoo 2 12mb.
Oh man, the difference betwen the harware graphics and the accellerated one was so huge it blew my mind!
Only playing Tomb Raider 2 with 3DFx on was a totally different experience!

btw, besides the 3DfX VooDoo 2 12 mb, my pc was pretty a shitty one

Pentium MMX 200 Mhz
32 mb ram
2 gb hd
Generic gfx card

>> No.695308

>1996 - 2004
>golden age of gaming
You think wrong.
/thread

>> No.695309
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>> No.695314

>>695309
>Broken Sword
>good
This game turned to shit right after the encounter with goat. Paris was awesome, everything else - god awful.

>> No.695317

>>695308
Thanks for the great conversation.

>> No.695324

>>695314
Disagree, although I do consider the goat puzzle in particular as the low point of the game.

>> No.695330
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Also, Shogo best FPS ever.

>> No.695331
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>> No.695335

Part of the reason why it seemed so great was all the technological improvements. You actually saw a lot of progress being made which made upcoming releases more exciting. This gen has been really lacking in that.

>> No.695337

>>695275
What good came out in 2002-2004 as opposed to 1992-1995?

>> No.695338

>>695308
1994 -2004 was the golden decade when it came to RPGs

Baldur's gate 1 & 2
Fallout 1 & 2
Icewind Dale 1 & 2
Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura
Neverwinter Nights
Suikoden 1 & 2
FF6 FF7 FF9
Chrono Trigger
Xenogears

Just to name the few

>> No.695340

>>695330
It was one of the weakest Monolith's games. Blood, N.O.L.F., TRON 2.0 and even F.E.A.R. with its boring visuals - all better. The main theme was good, though.
>>695331
Puzzles were shit.

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>>695335
Yeah this is a good point. There was a huge improvement not only from a generation to another, but on a yearly basis! the graphic evolved constantly!

>> No.695348

>>695338
Golden age of RPGs was 1988-1996. Fallout and Baldur's Gate were both harbingers of decline.

And JRPGs? Really?
>Neverwinter Nights
It's not even a fucking video game. It's a fucking engine / mod tools.

>> No.695350

>>695275
>1996 - 2004
>Golden Age of Gaming

Fuck no. 1985-1995 gave us games from but not limited to NES (which itself dates back to 1983), SMS, GB, SMD, TG16, SNES.

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>> No.695357

>>695345

Welcome to diminishing returns. Much like your hairline at 45. It probably didn't help that that time frame defined a lot of childhoods and teenage years. Especially for many 20 to 30 year olds.

>> No.695354

>>695348
>And JRPGs? Really?
Play Suikoden.

>> No.695353

>>695352
Overrated just like Deus Ex.

>> No.695358

>>695353
Gr8 b8.
>>>/v/

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>> No.695364

>>695348
>Fallout and Baldur's Gate were both harbingers of decline.
Come on. Fallout was the epitome of choice&consequence mechanics at the time. Your idea of what makes a good RPG is fucking different from my own.

>> No.695367

>>695354
I played Suikoden I-II and they're surprisingly good for Japanese shit. Anyway, they're just exceptions.
>>695358
How is System Shock 2 not overrated? Is it a great FPS? No. Is it a great RPG? No. Is it a great mix of FPS and RPG? No. Is it a good horror. No, again. Does it have a outstanding level design? Nope. It's more simplistic in comparison to both the original and Thief, which came out one year before. System Shock 2 is a solid game, but not one of the best and will never be.

>> No.695371

>>695364
I never said, that they're bad games.

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I wishi i've bought Half Life original and didnt pirated it.

>> No.695374 [DELETED] 

>>695275
Shit.
>>695281
Nigga, you serious?
>>695285
Babbys first TPS.
>>695291
More like Autistic Alliance.
>>695293
hurrr so edgy
>>695302
Shit, next.
>>695309
Not even gonna bother refuting this one.
>>695330
Shit.
>>695331
Hipster shit.
>>695345
PEW PEW PEW shit
>>695352
Overrated.
>>695361
Introduced FPS multiplayer to idiots.

>> No.695378

>>695374
So, what did you played?
you was hipster before hipsters even existed?

>> No.695382

>>695378
>you was hipster before
>you was hipster
>you was

>> No.695385
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1992-2001

>> No.695395

>>695385
>Star Trail
That's more like it. If only Fallout and Baldur's Gate had depth of this game.

>> No.695403

>>695395
Baldur's Gate a shit. Never understood what people saw in that game, beyond the pretty graphics for its time.
Fallout was pretty good though, even if the tradeoff was making people forget about the CRPGs that came out before it.

>> No.695407

Jesus fucking Christ op... you just gave an abortion to the English language

>> No.695410

rpg codex plz go home

>> No.695415

>>695403
Well, it was a well made game to be honest (aside from questionable RTwP combat, which I hate, because it never did it job properly) with one of the best soundtracks I've ever heard in RPG. VA was good, too. And it wasn't that pretty. Planescape: Torment and Icewind Dale looked better.

Fallout was alright, again, aside from horrendous combat and companions' A.I. Quest design, c&c and art-direction were good and that's about it. And Mark Morgan is one of the most overrated and talentless composer of all time.

>> No.695418
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>Loved the original Unreal
>Loved the atmosphere
>Loved the gunplay
>Loved the emphasis on one-player adventure
>Mfw it became a purely multiplayer series
>Mfw each iteration got progressively shittier until it died entirely

>> No.695423

>>695415
I turned off the music in both games.

>> No.695426

>>695410
>rpg codex
Codexers really believe, that Black Isle / Troika Games were the best RPG devs of all time. While I can give the Black Isle because of Fallout 2 (even with all its retarded shit) and Icewind Dale, Troika Games released three broken messes in a row. Best developer my ass.
>>695418
Thanks to CliffyB.
>>695423
Why?

>> No.695435

>>695378
Stop replying to shitposters you fucking clownshoe.

>> No.695430

>>695415
>aside from horrendous combat

I really liked the combat to Fallout. Having different body parts effect different stats when damaged was neat. The A.I. needed to be tested though. Lot of NPCs in combat were dumb as shit. Especially Ian.

>> No.695432

>>695426
I found it distracting.

>> No.695438

>>695430
Things could get annoying when an entire map turned hostile, but other than that, I really enjoyed the combat as well.

>> No.695439

>>695430
I wasn't talking about VATS only. VATS in theory is a great mechanic.
>>695432
>Aphex Twin / Brian Eno ambient shit
>distracting
How?

>> No.695448

>all this shitposting
I thought you were better, /vr/

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>>695448
Even the best boards have a few silly willies out to create a ruse. Best idea is to ignore and move on.

>> No.695451 [DELETED] 

>>695448
fuck you 1996-2004 was babby tier shitgaming for pleb tier hipster tier edgy autists

>> No.695476

>>695415
IWD and PS:T came after BG1, that's understandable that they look better.
And don't hate on Mark Morgan, his music actually fit the game greatly while not being intrusive at all. If you want to diss on an overrated composer, go do it on Jeremy Soule.

>> No.695503

>>695476
Jeremy Soule is sure overrated and it seems, that he lost his touch judging by his recent works, but he's an actual composer unlike copy-paste Morgan. Have you listened to his W2 and PE stuff? It's laughable.
Also
>his music
I haven't heard his music yet. All I heard in Zork, Fallout and Planescape: Torment were variations of foreign works.

>> No.695525

>>695503
>All I heard in Zork, Fallout and Planescape: Torment were variations of foreign works.
Elaborate.

>> No.695535

>>695525
He's so unoriginal, that it hurts. He doesn't have his own style and vision. He loves Roach and Eno? That's alright. But his own tracks sound like Roach's and Eno's b-sides. He has no personality at all. And he damn sure loves copy-pasting. Listen to P:T" there's about 10+ variations of main theme.

>> No.695546

>>695535
Maybe he takes after Steve Roach, but I don't hear Eno all that much in there. Pretty sure a lot of tracks, like the Redding theme, don't sound like either of them much - apart from the very fundamentals (under which you could accuse any ambient musician to sound like "Roach's and Eno's b-sides").
>Listen to P:T" there's about 10+ variations of main theme.
That's probably because he's doing a soundtrack, not a standalone album.

>> No.695551

>>695275
>MDK

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

Those fucking guys who danced and made chicken noises! That shitty robot disguise!

>> No.695558

>>695535
>>695546
And again, why would you hate an ambient artist so much solely for unoriginality? It's not exactly a genre renowned for how varied it is. Also he's one of a few people properly representing it in the field of videogame OSTs (or at least, has been when the first Fallouts were released).

>> No.695559

>>695546
>not a standalone album
Give me a good Morgan's album, please.

>> No.695565

>>695558
I don't hate him, I just think, that he's a lazy composer, who hasn't released a single solid work yet.

>> No.695571

>>695535
Ever heard the term leitmotif?

>> No.695575

>>695559
I don't listen to his standalone albums, I don't even know them. I'm talking about his videogame works.

>> No.695576

>>695571
Yes.

>> No.695581

>>695418
>each installation got shittier

Okay so you're saying that 2k3 was better than 2k4? You're no longer allowed opinions.

>>>/out/

>> No.695610
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1995-2005 was the golden age of gaming IMO. At least for the PC. These are my all-time favorites.

>> No.695631

>>695610
What came out in 2005?

>> No.695638

>>695631
Civ 4, FEAR, Psychonauts, KOTOR 2, Zoo Tycoon 2: Endangered Species... The list goes on.

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>>695367
>>>/v/

>> No.695749

>>695672
>somebody on muh precious board doesn't like the game I like! better tell him to go back to a board that I came from!

>> No.695759

To me the golden age lasted from 1985 to 2005, and I am clearly biased in this because it was essentially my whole childhood and teenage years, but I've grown quite cynical of today's games. Sure there are still some interesting titles here and there but I mostly lost interest.

>> No.695842

>>695749
It's not about disliking a game, it's about shitposting. If you insist on criticising a widely acclaimed game, you're going to have to come with better arguments than "No. No. No. No, again. Nope. It's more simplistic than Thief." If you're going to be posting like this, "gb2/v/" is the only type of response you deserve.

Further, the game's flaws are well known by fans, and they still consider it one of their favorites despite those flaws. What are you trying to achieve by attempting to argue that it is "overrated"?

>> No.695875

>>695842
Maybe he wanted to know why it's still liked despite its numerous flaws, liked enough that it has earned its massive cult status so much more than other, more solid games from its era.

>> No.695926

>>695875
It's certainly more reasonable to put it that way than to start the conversation by announcing that a game is overrated.

I can only speak for myself, but I can't think of a comparison for SS2. It's a unique experience. The kind of presence that the antagonist has throughout the game is almost one of a kind, and I greatly enjoyed the complexity of both the layout of the ship and the tasks you're given. Add in the nerve-wracking hum of the ship's systems (and awesome sound design in general) as you try to plan your actions while at the same time listening and watching carefully for wandering enemies, and you get a very intense experience.

I can see how that wouldn't work for everyone, but it should be enough to justify the following that the game has. And it's not like those other games don't have their fans as well.

>> No.696132

>>695638
Aaaaaand none of them (with an exception of kotor) were good.

>> No.696151

>>696132
>Civ 4 worse than KOTOR
Wash yourself

>> No.696152

>>696132
I'd say the only crappy game he mentioned is Zoo Tycoon 2.

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>> No.696776

>>696656
muh nigga

>> No.696838
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This should make it a bit easier for people to select their favourite year. PC only though

>> No.696904

>>695330
The thumbnail made it look like there was a really buff black guy about to smash a little kid and I got excited.

>> No.700573

>>695275
>Maybe is only nostalgia googles but, i seriously thinks that 1996 - 2004 was the fucking golden age of gaming.
Not really no. DOS gaming got better and into windows and when it reached 3D space, games started to become more technologically advanced, but worse in general.

>> No.700580

>>695340
Pretty much all of monoliths games were weak. The best games in their arsenal were the NOLF series and they were pretty much entirely based on novelty and not strong games.

>> No.700584

>>695415
>Well, it was a well made game to be honest
Well that's just not true.
Horribly diluted bastardized version of an already piss poor AD&D combat system, Poor UI, poor writing, looked kind of dated but excusable.

>> No.700585

>>696838
Not really. Shitty lists help no one but the shitty list maker.

>> No.700653

>>696838
>Simcity 2k
>1995

Simcity 3000
>1998

>UT
>2000

No.