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DOOM THREAD / 90s FPS THREAD - Last thread >>6927135

Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other 90s FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~


(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Thief, Deus Ex)
-Album of infographics with setup information and user-made content recommendations

Same thing, but in video format:

IWADs and more (>6 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake pastebin (2016-06-22): http://pastebin.com/XjBHDRFw
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Doom, Quake, Douk, Blood, and more)
More /vr/ shooters
Doom Shovelware

Doom RPG series



Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/








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450ml of /vr/ (for Blood)
Deadline: November 10th
Rules: >>6902484
MAPEDIT: https://archive.org/details/BloodMapedit
Discord: https://discord.gg/NfFP9Pu

=== NEWS ===
[9-26] Arcane Dimensions 1.8 to include monster randomizer for vanilla

[9-24] Sigma-X demo released

[9-23] Aleph One 1.3 released

[9-22] UT patch v469a released

[9-22] Supplice is going standalone

[9-22] REKKR released for Bethesda ports (marking the first TC for them)

[9-21] Microsoft acquires Zenimax (including Bethesda & id)

[9-21] Woof! 2.3.0 released

[9-21] Doom II: 25 Years on Earth: One Year Late edition has been uploaded to idgames

[9-21] New Arcane Dimensions version teased.

[9-20] Demo for Ashes: Afterglow is out.

[9-19] (Saturn homebrew) HELLSLAVE SAGE 2020

[9-18]Widescreen resources from the Unity ports officially released

[9-17] Anon is working on a street judge mod:

[9-16] Quake 1 Remastered Soundtrack out on vinyl

=== PREVIOUS ===



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>> No.6935321

What are some recommended Episode WADS for heretic? i am a complete newbie when it comes to that as i only have doom wads and 0 heretic ones,do single maps exist?

>> No.6935334

the wayfarer and unveliever are good

>> No.6935376

Personally never played a Heretic wad. Maybe I should also look into one in time.
Also: Heretic > Hexen

>> No.6935380
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I'm generally skeptical of the whole deal, too often it seems like people fudge results and pretend they used some theory when they really only used their gut. or worse, follow the theory and proudly present the result and it looks like trash. I'm not an expert though, clearly.

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I see. I did a quick color change and I am not sure about this (I even changed to a more neutral font)

>> No.6935395

>Heretic superior to hexen
may i know why? isnt it the same of doom 2 being superior to doom 1? i have seen posts saying hexen has ALOT of switch hunting so i could see how that may be a massive turn off

>> No.6935412

well I'd go more bronze/copper-y, but I don't know the source material.
looks a bit unbalanced size-wise, but maybe not a big deal. try doubling the ammo icon, if GZ even allows it.

>> No.6935431

The badges and chain are usually portrayed golden in color. The size of the ammo icons is actually about the same height as the chain links here. I thought that was fitting, but I'll check, they are scaled down anyway.

>> No.6935440

Yeah, just checked size. If I make the icons as big as the badge I don't like it anymore.

>> No.6935460

Does Doom 2 feature all the textures from 1 as well?

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>> No.6935496

The action isn't as straight forward as in heretic. The switch hunting is something not for everyone (and not for me)
Also: Only 4 weapons at a time.

>> No.6935546

>nuDoom is now forever cursed by the clutches of Microsoft
Are the old mods and fan shit in danger?

>> No.6935554

MS doesnt fuck with modding

>> No.6935558

Microsoft is still a better owner than bethasda themself.

>> No.6935593

>Are the old mods and fan shit in danger?
Every day of the year.

>> No.6935594

Probably not, and even then they couldn't stop us.

>> No.6935603
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Video gay here. I got a proposal for when the Blood project is finished and everything is wrapped up.

I'm kicking around the idea of starting a mapping contest, something relatively small, like 100$ in prizes total, first place would get 50 bucks, second and third 30-20 each.
Sounds good enough incentive without super high stakes, honestly I don't have Ikea money like Joel and I wouldn't want to spend a whole year reviewing entries either, so I would like the scope of the contest to remain relatively small if possible well I'm not a bigwig in this space so that would be unlikely anyways but it would be open for anyone to join outside of this thread.

If I go though with this I think it would be neat to have more than one judge, people who know their shit and are reasonably skilled at the game I'm not doing UVfast on Sunlust any time soon, I was thinking of other YT folks off the top of my head, Mtpain27 sounds like a good pick since I enjoy his WAD critiques a lot, maybe Decino or Dwars but assuming they are interested/not busy with their own stuff that might defeat the purpose of a smaller contest, if you guys know some people who would make good judges in forums or somewhere else let me know, I'm not super familiar with the wider community in Doomworld/ZDoom/Doomer Boards, and I only ever interacted directly with a handful of modders in the past, and again, they might be too busy with their own stuff.

Assuming everyhing goes well, I would love to try this with other games in the future, who knows? maybe HUH 2 could be contest, maybe we could foment some love for Thief FMs this way, maybe even a writing contest, again, I'm not a wealthy man, far from it, but I'm passionate about this shit and I think it would be neat to reward people for doing it.

Before I get too carried away, this could be more than I could chew from the organizer standpoint, I want to think I learned from HUH.
We'll see.

>> No.6935607

Dude, you know how much fan and third party content was made for Microsoft Flight Simulator over the years?

>> No.6935612

40k anon, I've finished the translation:


Unfortunately there's not much about the singleplayer version of the game, the video is mostly focused on the multiplayer version and the general history of the game's development.
As far as I understand the singleplayer version was scrapped very early. There were two versions of the multiplayer game, one which was linked in the video's description and is almost finished and a newer unfinished version made on Lithtech since the studio lost the rights to use the previous engine. The part about the lost drives you asked about referred to the unfinished Lithtech version being lost. The only information about the singleplayer games are the magazine articles giving a few screens and a brief description of the game which mostly amounts to "it's a new Warhammer 40k game".

>> No.6935636

My grandpa gets nauseous when playing any game like doom. Is this normal?

>> No.6935641

maybe he isnt used to fast motions? i have had to drop some games because white flashes and too much flashy shit hurts my eyes or makes me dizzy

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I get nauseous as well which why I turn view bob off and turn on crosshairs. I really like this game, but Doom Guy runs like he's a ship on the ocean.

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I think that looks great. Dare I say, kino even.

>> No.6935685

Is Ioquake3 pretty much dead?

>> No.6935749

> golden axe intro music

>> No.6935756

Am I the only one who doesn't really enjoy slaughtermaps?

>> No.6935767

who is kegan and why does /vr/ hate him?

>> No.6935780

Also having a quick look at that other interview video, the developer doesn't even mention the singleplayer alpha in the interview.

>> No.6935791

I enjoy them at the start,but the burnout after it its pretty massive or i get bored of killing wave after wave of enemies

>> No.6935796

/vr/ hates so many people I can't follow it anymore.

>> No.6935802

I wanted to love New Gothic Movement...but I'm not into slaughtermaps sadly.

>> No.6935808

forgot to add,sunder specifically burned the hell out of me the levels being a switch hunt didn't helped (fuck map 5 in particular)

>> No.6935814

could be fun, HUHguy. i've never mapped before aside from some dabbling, but maybe i'll join in for this.

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>> No.6935818

I think every old school FPS should have those one life death wave modes that are in modern FPS. Ion Fury has one map with that the chaingun even.

>> No.6935825

Interesting idea, I'll be keeping an eye on this!

>> No.6935831

Probably in safer hands with Microsoft than Zenimax, who actually HAS gone after fan projects before (usually for logo reasons, they also C&D'd a source port for distributing the free shareware version once though).

>> No.6935842

One life death wave modes? You mean like devil daggers or what should I imagine?

>> No.6935853

Like Cod zombies

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>> No.6935878

Hey! I recognize that bulge!

>> No.6935934

some people get motion sickness from playing fpses no matter what

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Alright, did a whole chain sequence with the new badge. Again blue out of laziness and because I still wasn't satisfied with the yellow/prange color.

>> No.6936003

Doom has multiple horde/wave maps, idk that's one of those game modes that feels missing if its not there but unless its implemented really well feels forgettable and usually gets boring.

The map(s) must be really fucking good or have tons of fun tools at your disposal (or be built around it like L4d).

Kino der toten was the shit, sorry you're allergic to fun

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When are these underage tourists going to finally leave

>> No.6936009

Please leave this thread

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>> No.6936017

I'd participate

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complex doom niggas be like "YOO ITS FUN AS HELL DOE"

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FinalDoomer's Hellbound class is pretty fun, its like Trailblazer with balance.
Any good maps for it?
I'm leaning towards Going Down, but I'd prefer an easier city wad with smaller maps.

>> No.6936054

Why doesn't she look more like Dianne Lane did in Judge Dredd?

>> No.6936085

Because everybody wants to forget that shit

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This is some dumb bait. I'm pretty sure only a handful of anons in the doom threads are aware of me, anon, let alone /vr/ as a whole. Try something else next time.

Not sure what the hell that slut is talking about, but I'm the guy who made GMOTA and Combined_Arms.

>> No.6936101

I hate this meme. There's LITERALLY nothing wrong with the 95 movie. Stallone is based. Hershey was based. Rob Schneider... Ahem. The sets were amazing. It's a good movie.

>> No.6936104

You are? Well I don't hate you then for sure. The name didn't bring anything to mind, so im very sorry. Continue the great work!

>> No.6936113

>The sets were amazing.
That's true. Still doesn't make it a good movie. It's cookie cutter 90s superhero shit. John Wagner himself said it was shit.

>> No.6936132

Cry more fag

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Because Hershey is half japanese.
Diane lane at her peak was great, but Hershey is literally the mother of 40k's sisters of battle, plus she lacked the iconic haircut

Said John Wagner is the reason of why modern dredd is so garbage, and the one who wrote the garbage "false death and character assassination muh stronk womyn" of hers recently.

>> No.6936141

John Wagner said the movie was great after it came out. And has since flip flopped becusse the internet deemed it shit. Because of shit like nostalgia critic.

How's it cookie cutter? The budget is 5x the Dredd movie that's literally just shot in a street in fucking South Africa with awful digital blood.

You're probably one of these fags that cry Stallone took the helmet off. Nooooo not the hecking helmeterino!!!

The movie had authentic judge costumes, great looking megacity and cursed earth. Angel gang, phenomenal as fuck Mean Machine, a fucking ABC warrior, great weapons and action. A comfy 90's metal soundtrack. Stallone is kino and yeah sure the 3rd act is sketchy cus they ripped shit out of the script and what have you but it's still a perfectly good movie.

>> No.6936149

They showed Dredd's face, so I'm not sure where you're going with authenticity.

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better post updates then

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I don't have anything right now. I've been trying to work on the last weapon Combined_Arms default set overhaul: The baton. But I can't really draw this thing in first person so I've been meaning to pose something in Blender to use as a ref but I hate that interface so goddamn much that all motivation was sucked out of my asshole and I've been paralyzed for like the past week. I think I got it fixed now so I can pose the stupid thing, I just need to get back on track.
3D modelling a fuck. Gimme 2D any day of the week.

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>> No.6936181

all these bob haired sci-fi women look the same

>> No.6936183

Ok? And besides that? What? Stallone wanted to keep the helmet on but it's fuckign Stallone. Meddling executives said they wanted his face.

2012 outfits are just generic fucking kevlar shit. 90's is STILL far more authentic than Urbans ever will be.

>> No.6936186

We get it, you like Stallone.

>> No.6936208

Oh just fuck off to /tv/

>> No.6936219

I need to see that movie again, I saw it when it came out and I thought it was decent. I don't remember shit about it though

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It's a fun movie with wasted nice depiction of megacity one.
Not demolition man level fun but okaiysh.

It just fails at depicting Dredd its too heroic.
Fuck I would give my left nut for fps rpg with the aesthetic of Ion Fury but in the dredd universe.

>> No.6936225

Authenticity? What about the total butchering of the source material? Fargo present Chief Judge? Rico not disfigured? Fucking FERGIE being a Rob Schneider character? The *only* authentic thing they had was the look of Meg-1. You're just being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian.

>> No.6936230

Does anyone have 'Heretical doom v1.3'? the reason is 1.4 has an annoying as fuck dash bug and the author didnt archived the older versions of the mod

>> No.6936231

>Fuck I would give my left nut for fps rpg with the aesthetic of Ion Fury but in the dredd universe.
I actually wonder why they never made a Dredd game on Build.

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>Because Hershey is half japanese.
What? Was that in that bit of progs about her having a lost sister or something that I forgot about? Fuck. Almost no one ever drew her Asian anyway, though. Just with dark eyes and resting bitch face and sometimes dark lips, all of which combined happen to make my nailgun the super nailgun.

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neither /tv/ or /co/ can discuss dredd or 2000ad pleasantly anymore

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Yeah, sorry about that but I don't archive the old versions online. 1.5 will be out within the next few weeks, but if you want to manually remove that script in the meantime, its in the COMMANDS acs file. Just remove the last script "DashCheck" and recompile.

>> No.6936267

The company that owned Dredd and 2000AD in the 90's was awful and hated comics basically. There's a story where they had a water leak in their offices and used boxes of the original comic art masters as sandbags destroying it forever. That's how little they cared.

Rebellion, who made the Alien Vs Predator and Dredd fps games in the early 00's bought the entire property and turned it around. Though they've done fuck all in terms of videogames though.

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what about 2002ado tho? fuckin love that one.

>> No.6936269

She was a nice goth waifu counterpart to Anderson. Both take turns on Dredd anyway.

>> No.6936274


That is sad as fuck. Even in its lowest Dredd comics have some amazing storyline and political fuckery that you wont even see in manga.

And the more modern crossovers like the Alien one are fun as fuck.

>> No.6936278

The dredd case files are pretty based. Even the old stuff is campy in a fun way.

>> No.6936282

I will try doing that and patiently wait of course,many thanks

>> No.6936283

Bob cuts are good.

>> No.6936290

Low maintenance

>> No.6936296

>Both take turns on Dredd anyway.
stop this unlawful language
hershey only had "has," I hate that they brought her back eyes for the LAW like dredd does and anderson is a SLUT

>> No.6936307

It was a stupid oversight I've been kicking myself over for a while now. Was helping someone write a dash script, and forgot to remove and recompile before release, then didn't notice until months later when someone else brought it up. Hopefully the improvements in the next version will make it up to everyone.

>> No.6936309

I dunno about that, the lowest ones are pretty fucking low. Basically mindless superviolence because they were chasing a different audience and hadn't gotten the right mix of ultraviolence, police procedural, snarky humor, and occasional political meanderings yet. Bisley's painted art was gorgeous, though.

>> No.6936323

>download weapon mod
>just want to pew pew and kill shit
>open readme file out of curiosity
>"this mod uses alt fire,altfire2,altfire3,slide,jump,kick,reload,fart,reload4,button combos for melee attacks,item shop,glory kills,altfire6"
what the fuck

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Marine Daisy

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Again, Blame John Wagner and modern rebellion for that.
Another Good comic book goes down the drain over political progressiveness.
the only redeeming stuff of late is cadet dredd + rico and the apocalypse stuff.

i think i never saw such khornate rage over the Hershey stuff ever since 90's marvel and DC Edgelord grimdark stupidity to compete against Image, and Didio's autism with Identity Crysis.

Rebellion also scams people with their gaming Ip's, just look at Battlezone, they even gave the finger to the community and the guys who made BZ2 remaster.

Her recent "Death" and Return are nothing but Fever Dreams made by idiots and its creator falling into internet stupidity.
Ignore its existence.

>> No.6936337

>GW ripped off Dredd for the Arbites
>ripped off Lawmasters and Lawgivers near-wholesale
>ripped off Hershey for the nuns with guns
>ripped off several artists and writers who would later turn their own 40k stories into Dreddworld ones

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90's Dredd is the best though. The Bisley-esque era fucking rules. Nothing beats hyper realistic yet at the same time hyper exaggerated painted anatomy. Digital art is concentrated cancer and utterly souless drokk.

Example, mommy Hershey. This is THE SAME ARTIST.

>> No.6936346

Weren't a lot of the old GW writers also former 2000AD writers?

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I was okay with her death. It was expected, even, given Tharg doesn't normally pull punches about main characters getting killed off and not returning, whether it's Johnny Alpha getting merked or Giant Sr. getting shot in the back. I'm not a fan of the revival, as I thought the send-off was pretty fucking good and the 'Kill Bill but with old Hershey' stuff is a serious letdown in comparison.

Everything is digital now and it sucks, but I'm happy the progs are even still around to read period. Beggars can't be choosers.
> The Bisley-esque era fucking rules
Especially his own work on Dredd, Slaine, ABC, and the rest. It's neat watching the artists' styles evolve over the years. Love for Hershey transcends linework and paint-tools.

>> No.6936365

Guilliman Learned with Sorachi gorilla the ancient technique of getting scot free with everything they do
The only consequence is that now he has His own Shinpachi as Cunto shittarius

Yes and mostly because they all loved old Fantasy and Rogue trader + 2nd ed were influenced by their works with 2000ad

>> No.6936374

The movie was actually pretty good, compared to the reboot. Plus I consider it a spiritual sequel to Demolition Man.

I never read the comics, so I had no idea.

>> No.6936376

Bless the man for influencing Q2 and Q3 girls designs with the late paul steed and Adrian Carmack's drawings

>> No.6936392

>never read the comics

>> No.6936401

i always got more of a heavy metal vibe from q2/3 than a 2000ad one, especially with several q3 characters ripped off wholesale from HM covers and stories

>> No.6936424

Heavy Metal "heavily" influenced Q2 and Q3's designs.

>> No.6936442
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How the fuck do I get metadata and images to work with Doom Launcher? It keeps wanting to pull from idgames and I just want some usable thumbnails.

>> No.6936465

>Rebellion also scams people with their gaming Ip's, just look at Battlezone, they even gave the finger to the community and the guys who made BZ2 remaster.
What's the story here?

>> No.6936495

short story, They Ignored the old community, didnt released the source code for modding, and the CM called the fanbase assholes.

>> No.6936514

also the game has CTD bugs

>> No.6936519

Just add a screenshot to each thing with the ui at the bottom. It'll use it as the thumbnail after a refresh. Right-click an entry and click edit to change a description with your own. I usually just cut-paste the important info from doomworld or zdoom forums

>> No.6936531

is there a way to point Doom Launcher to an existing wad folder without it copying everything to its own directory? I played around with it for like 15 minutes and it just looks like out of control bloatware

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"game file directory"

>> No.6936545

Is that launcher worth using? Anons were talking about using itt to keep track of completion and what not, having .wads all organized with screen shots would be nice ngl.

However, 90% of the time I'm using various mods and the launcher didn't want to play nice iirc

>> No.6936554

if you want stats it's the best option

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I like it for my general, casual usage. If you're just trying to set up easy access to stats, sourceports, and maps + demos then it's the best organization available imo

>> No.6936605

great, now it repackaged 12GB of .wads into .zip files.

>> No.6936615

Personally I think it needs more work. ZDL shortcuts and a spreadsheet works fine for me.

>> No.6936685

Hey Kegan, don't worry about it man. If I were you I might even be content with my ability to be a Doom mod wizard. Trust me, I'm more excited for the new combined arms update than anything else Doom related right now, and if you were anything but a great modder, that wouldn't be the case. Im a picky motherfucker.

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I've been here since I was 15 years old, and I'm 19 now. Give him a chance, he might even be based if he has the time to look into maps and mods and the like.

>> No.6936720

>admitting to underage posting
>still not even old enough to drink
>calling things 'based'
please go

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You are my nigga and don't you ever let anyone tell you otherwise Kegan.

>> No.6936741

what shithole do you live in if you can't even drink at 19

>> No.6936751

>joined during the election tide and using this as a point of pride
I'm much more offended by this than the underageb&

>> No.6936752

Nooooooo modern game modes bad!

I think a survival mode in a boomer shooter could be cool. Like I said, Ion Fury has a very basic version of it in bonus missions.

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> boomer shooter
I prefer first person twinstick myself. That's assuming you're not a free look casual of course.

>> No.6936771

strong style shooting game

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>> No.6936792

what's the best way to do one-on-one online coop? i just want to be able to play popular wads with friends, nothing fancy.

>> No.6936809

You can make your own server with TPSG if you can't into port forwarding and play via Zandronum. ZDaemon is more accurate to vanilla but I don't know if it has a hosting service.

>> No.6936836

Thanks I'll dick around with it some more. My folders have become a nightmare

>> No.6936872

Doom EXP?

>> No.6936889
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Nah, I'm good. I like it here and nobody has ever had a problem with my posts, plus now I'm over the age that 4chan "requires" despite everything being anonymous. You don't like it? Eat shit, and die. :)

Whoever said anything about pride? I'm merely stating that I've been here for a while.

>> No.6936914

don't worry, this place is technically 30+ so hazing was an inevitability. truthfully it's good to have some fresh blood around, if only to see you slowly succumb to balding, taxation and muscle loss as you drift down the spiral to become one of us

>> No.6936929

Thanks, I guess. I started coming here as a fat stupid fuck with no motivation and tons of alienation/depression, so I've actually grown up a bit and improved my life while sometimes posting here and checking for new mod/map news. It's been a nice ride so far, I was here to see High Noon Drifter, Combined Arms, and a bunch of other mods as they got developed. Truthfully ya'll have been good to me, better than most places, even if you're just a loose group of anons.

>> No.6936940

Went to check Donde's Q2 website and im kinda surprised in learning that Q2 really had a thriving community in Japan with mods, skins, maps and so on in the late 90's
also it kinda explains why the japanese community has a soft spot for it along with classic doom and Mechwarrior

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Using the Build editor makes me want to break my fucking keyboard. The eduke/Ion Fury devs deserve to have no content made for their games if they refuse to modernize the editor and just want to add more obscure hotkeys forever.

>> No.6936995

Is every Icon of party WAD link broken or what?

>> No.6937012

One problem I see is that the gun is pointed completely straight on, instead of the perspective being slightly pointing up towards the crosshair like most doom weapons.

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In your opinion which wad had the best rendition of hell?

>> No.6937121

being able to manage multiple source ports and search idgames remotely makes it a no brainer for me. I still just use google sheets to track completion/reviews/todo though because I track quake/blood/etc stuff in there too. maybe if you already have a setup that works and has lots of mileage it might not be worth it.

>> No.6937127

nochance and sunder had the most oppressive atmosphere

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Could someone with Q2Test check the Strogg Sprites?
im looking at the old promotional screenshots at mobygames and they seem to have more detail in GL/3dfx and software mode than what it came out

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>> No.6937138

Animated fire sky textures in PSX and Doom 64 are gorgeous.

>> No.6937145

I'm honestly just glad I'm not the only autist that tracks my stats. Also, playing BTSX on Switch. Good shit.

>> No.6937153

Personally, I like hell levels where shit reeks evil vibes, shows torture and have a brutish look. Bonus points for shit beyond comprehension.
The some of the hell on earth starterpack hell levels hit close to that feeling, specially that one level with the mutilated marines. The hell levels of Eviternity (except the purple ones) are gorgeous too.

>> No.6937173

Unironically doom.wad
Episode 3 (and to some extent certain areas of E2) evoke an uncanny feeling of a really alien place. An abstract kind of hell but again unironically.

>> No.6937253

Doom 64

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not to discourage, but some things to keep in mind:
- a recent similar thing (http://talonbrave.info/?p=1801) seems to have been unsuccessful in drawing any participants (and that's at $250)
- HUH2 has been in the air for 2-3 months now. I've done basic preparation, but I'd still feel like I'm cheating. what's to stop someone from submitting a map 5 years in the works?
- HUH and QUMP were full of first timers. the idea of competing in the same weight class as guru mappers might sour the affair. as well as the prospect of being ranked, in general.
- as much as level design is a universal language, just dropping Doom judges into Quake maps may not be the best idea. I assume there are reasons for them preferring Doom after all. could be an entertaining shitshow though.

that's assuming Quake anyway. same thing for Doom could work.
anyway, maybe try contacting the Prey guy. it may just solve all of these in one go (clear niche theme to prevent cheating, prior disinterest from gurus letting others have a go, and possibly a judge packaged in). still, mapping for someone else's idea and judgement instead of your own might tank the motivation.

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NVM, they are different than the final product, in fact Q2test textures seems to have better facial shading and detail than vanilla Q2

>> No.6937301

Sigil, dude. It NAILED the atmosphere and aesthetic of Hell, plus the customs textures are absolutely fantastic

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>> No.6937331

Legally speaking, is there anything preventing a person from selling their wad?

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As long as there aren't copyrighted assets, no. Copyrighted assets in this case includes shit like editing official sprites though, you can't make an imp edit and include that in your wad since the original imp design is owned by the copyright holder. If you just use vanilla assets or assets entirely of your own creation (or both) there's zilch stopping you from selling your wad, since the assets copyrighted from DOOM aren't contained within your PWAD but within the IWAD instead (which is why you can run it with Freedoom and still make it fully playable).
The much bigger hurdle is justifying why anyboy would buy your wad when so many fantastic wads are available for free. Selling wads was commonplace in the mid-'90s, you're not going to find much of an audience now though.

>> No.6937349

Yeah that's what I figured. It'd be really hard to justify a map pack in this day and age, but something like Rekkr where it's basically a new game could work

>> No.6937350

zdaemon can host on its own, so that's good enough for me. wish it wasn't on software renderer though, got some casual friends who like freelook.

>> No.6937352

Pulling a Rekkr/Hedon is basically the only way, yeah.

>> No.6937359

Is Rekkr planning on shipping with a source port at all? Apparently it'll be a fully functional iwad without needing to be attached to Doom.

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i posted it already >>6937297
it seems that this was probably Timmy's autism during the development
the original faces had more detail than the blurry final release, even with the promotional screenshots

also i couldn't make it run here so i had to use Q1 PakExplorer

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>> No.6937419

I remember a doom multiplayer mod that had a bunch of playable monster enemies and every one of them loudly jump scared you upon killing you.
Does anyone know what I'm talking about?

>> No.6937469

Ghouls VS Humans

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thanks a lot, man. that clarifies it, the disk thing especially. interesting bit about Lithtech, I didn't catch that before. was pre-NOLF Lithtech really THAT bad?
the in-house engine seems to be called Calaris IC btw. also, terminator class can't really jump, could explain the wording.

I've dug around a bit more and found a couple extra things. getting flagged for spam though, some link might get butchered in whatever gets approved.

this interview seems to have the only non-first-look info on SP game:
though it's trying real hard to overpromise. "we're gonna have 40 hubs, and physics, and vehicles, and every faction in the setting, and Thief mode, and, and..."

this seems to suggest they (Szafa z grami) had access to an earlier alpha as well, though from what I'm getting just the same MP version but buggier.

then there's this with a short summary: https://www.ppe.pl/blog/53910/12030
which has the MP session: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeS_-adKg8Q
I don't expect you to actively sit through the whole thing, but maybe you could listen to it in the background or something, see if anything interesting comes up. I'll be here a month from now, no rush.

but yeah, I'm not seeing singleplayer alpha anywhere in this. guess MP beta is the best we're gonna get. I guess I might contact the guy eventually, see if there's anything else.

>> No.6937476

thanks dude

>> No.6937508

It saddens me that this was cancelled in favor of that pile of shit known as Firewarrior, all because geedubs wanted to push Space China.

>> No.6937524

As there ever been an attempt to bring Tom Hall's version of Doom to light in a project? Could be a fun group effort. Call it Hall of Doom or whatever.

>> No.6937529

See Doom Delta and tei tenga incident

>> No.6937603

sunlust because you feel viscerally that you're dying and full of anguish just from playing any of the later maps

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What am I in for lads?

>> No.6937660

I really liked Alien Bastards, play that one first

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>Custom textures

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Just played for 5 minutes. Holy fucking shit this is impressive stuff.

>> No.6937690

holy crap this looks awesome

i'll grab all this stuff too. thanks anon(s)

>> No.6937701

I've uploaded all the the project and their readmes up to 27 if anybody is interested.

>> No.6937705

It plays like a what if scenario where the Chex Quest devs were given the opportunity to use the Doom engine for a space themed game.

>> No.6937717

holy crap yes, grabbing now

>> No.6937720

That cool Baphomet head is a custom texture

>> No.6937721

haha i grabbed it already (catbox gloriously fast), thanks for including "get_some_fucking_culture.txt"

>> No.6937742

I really liked the hell sections of Bloodstain.

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There's some crazy shit in these doomer packs. Like damn this is consistently impressive.

>> No.6937768

I downloaded it, but it was full of dolphin porn. What do I do?

>> No.6937775

This. The fucking Nightdive studios even made a drag and drop Turok level editor. Why can't someone make a modern build editor?

Trenchbroom is amazing for quake tech games.

>> No.6937784

They make some seriously creative shit. I liked DBP20, the Dungeons & Dragons one.

>> No.6937823

holy fuck the caco texture to make the hud widescreen? this is glorious

>> No.6937831

you got a bunch of free dolphin porn, and you’re asking what to do?

>> No.6937834

I feel Rekkr doesn't get enough love
it's basically an all new game

>> No.6937840

Absolute kino. My favorites are Liliywhite Lilith and Forest Swords.

>> No.6937881

Tbh that's still a remnant from way back when I had planned to implement the bore scope. But angling wouldn't do too much anyway because of the dial case being so huge, it would just warp the scope a little bit. You can see the muzzle during the recoil frame... Maybe I should bite the bullet and make completely new sprites, or at least try to.

Also, holy shit you guys take comics seriously.

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If you'd base the Lawgiver of the Dredd movie one (which most normies are used to), you'd have to make it "righthanded" instead of classic center view to display the LCD display, and have it change depending on ammo selected, ya know a nice little detail

>> No.6937989

Well, I did base the ammo counter style on that. If I ever figure out how to make fonts for Doom, I want to make an LCD style one that fits better with the ammo icons. But I like the style of the comic one, it's more recognizable imo.
I want to keep it centered though, because you'll still be able to pick up guns and I don't want to mix. Tbh I didn't expect this thing to drag such a rat's tail behind...

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man fuck calculating pvs
so many bugs and edge cases
i already see another bug that'll happen with larger maps with the current algorithm

>> No.6938020

oh man when i was younger this used to be my shit
sometimes i would play as the monsters in single player maps for a laugh

>> No.6938021

Is that a specific Doomer pack?

>> No.6938041

>If I ever figure out how to make fonts for Doom

>> No.6938068

Nice, thanks m80

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Why does synthwave work so well with Quake 2? Is it the derelict quality of the decaying Strogg infrastructure that does it?

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Oh I remember that contest, kinda sucks that it didnt draw much attention, maybe that was a problem of too little marketing? Maybe me actively trying to keep a mapping contest small might end up in it not drawing much attention at all when the subject is niche to begin with.

As for the other concerns for a second HUH, if I do that I'll get some of the Quake people for judges, they are a pretty affable bunch and they were really helpful last year, I'm sure some of the regulars would be happy to participate in that way.
I mean, I doubt Sock would join a 50$ mapping contest anyways, but if he or someone else of his caliber shows interest they could be persuaded to be judges.

As for people using pre baked stuff... there isnt much you can do about it besides having a theme like you said "no more than x number of units/brushes" "the map has to be in ancient egypt" or something on that line, I believe limitation can actually help creativity assuming you play your cads right and let people have enough wiggle room to come up with cool stuff.
I'll try getting a hold of guy tho.

But yeah the first one would be Doom and it would involve only Doom people.
Honestly the biggest drawback I can think of is trying to set up something like a Discord to act as a hub for the event, and the prospect of moderating it all sounds dreadful.

>> No.6938303

I wouldn't really recommend going with the money for maps in general.
No pun intended.
I mean people loved Fucking 2048 of vr, so maybe let's do something on the likes of that, How about 20 sectors of VR?
We combine both The themes of Mayhem and put it in vr to make it, we will be so goddam filled up with maps, we would be set!

>> No.6938372

How do I make triggers in Trenchbroom for teleporting monsters in after killing another monster, but without the "sequence complete!" message?

>> No.6938385

I don't get competitions like this. You spend possibly weeks making something and for what, a tiny chance you might win back 1% of what you spent in cost to cover the time it took to create the map?

I really hope these competitions are for kids and NEETs only.

>> No.6938390

Either override with a custom message or find the secret nomessage bool.

>> No.6938401

Could you tell me how I would find that? Googling brings nothing. This'd really open up a lot of possibilities for ideas I have.

>> No.6938410
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what are you doing even?
monster targets teleporter, teleporter targets destination. no message, no nothing.

>> No.6938443

I'm quite new, so I assumed the sequence complete way is the only way to do it. I haven't actually done anything yet, mind you, because I don't know what I'm doing. I've got this dude outside the map in a room, like the Quake wiki says, and I'm trying to assign the death of another monster to teleport him inside the room, but I don't know how to assign a targetname, and the Trenchbroom manual doesn't have anything on this.

>> No.6938448

>and I'm trying to assign the death of another monster to teleport him inside the room
Inside the main* room, I should say.

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just give the "targetname" field some value. built-in definitions should have it, but if not, just add a new field that you need (+ button)

the other anon meant spawnflag 1 on trigger_counter in case you need to track a group of monsters dying

>> No.6938474

>just give the "targetname" field some value.
Already lost me. I'm trying to target a monster, and "some value" is meaningless to me. Do I input the monster's entity name in the targetname field? How will Trenchbroom know which monster I'm talking about? Better yet, is there a dumptruck_ds video that talks about this?

>> No.6938483

when you select and edit an entity's properties:

targetname = name of entity
target = target of entity

>> No.6938484

come on, it's on the screenshot. you just name (targetname) it however you like, then use same name as "target" for some other entity.
it's gotta be in tutorials, probably under entities.

>> No.6938494

Getting somewhere, but now for some reason I don't have a trigger_teleport entity at all. Just trigger_counter

>> No.6938498

The point of the monetary reward isn't to make you into a professional mapper retard, it's just a minor incentive to do a better job than you would normally.

>> No.6938503

Teleport is a brush entity. Make a brush, right click it, and turn it into a teleport trigger. If you haven't watched lumptruck's tutorials you really should, it's easier to get into Trenchbroom now than ever.

>> No.6938521

A hah! Thank you. I was looking at dumptruck_ds' entity videos, and then I went back to what you said here: >>6938410 and it finally made sense to me. Fuck yes. Thanks.

>> No.6938540

>Any good maps for it?
Yeah, Hellbound.

>> No.6938546

can someone give me the quick rundown on serious sam

>> No.6938552

He's very serious.

>> No.6938558

Nothing like classic FPS. Its bread and butter is managing hordes of unique enemy types. It's an amazing series.

>> No.6938561

hold S+LMB

no but seriously, some anon spent entirely too much effort on these: >>6902425 >>6902471

>> No.6938562

Arenas connected by hallways. Also not from the '90s

>> No.6938568

Any specific order I should play them?

>> No.6938572

The First Encounter, The Second Encounter, Before First Encounter, Serious Sam 4. If you're still yearning for more, go back and play Serious Sam 2. The style is very different, and the combat formula is slightly changed, but it's still a great game.

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Does any anon mind if I put these Sam infographs into the album in the OP?

>> No.6938584

Also, play on Serious difficulty if you really want to know what sets it apart from all the rest.

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Like >>6938558
said, Sam isnt really anything like Doom, or the Build games. Personally I love Sam, but its not for everyone.
Ha, saved the me trouble of finding of posting them. I still cant believe I spent 2 weeks dredging through russian forums, and playing almost 1000 mods.
I explained that in detail in the infograph, but
TLDR: First Encounter>Second Encounter
You can play HD,Revolution,or the original versions of the two encounters.
If you enjoyed them then play 2/Next Encounter.
If youre still yearning for more check out Before First Encounter (3), and 4 which was just realeased.
Theres also plenty of mods available for the encounters, and 3.

>> No.6938591

use quake3e if you want the most up-to-date quake 3 sourceport, it's based on ioquake3 but it branched off many years ago

>> No.6938592

Thank you. I'll download the GOG versions of the games.

>> No.6938693

Because Strogg are the classic 80's body horror monsters as Q1's enemies

>> No.6938735

Nah, go ahead.

>> No.6938741

Bob cuts are god tier.
>half japanese
lol what, nah I don't hate it but I don't buy it either

>> No.6938756

it what makes it hot

>> No.6938767

I do, let's not dilute what this thread is for. adding serious sam will lead to anons bringing up painkiller and eventually modern shit like bulletstorm because these games form a lineage. it's inevitable, so don't let nu /vr/ win.

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>so don't let nu /vr/ win.

>> No.6938770

I've never heard that before and I just don't believe it, it sounds tacked on.

>> No.6938772

You don't want to talk about Crysis in /DOOM/?

>> No.6938774

Bulletstorm was the best shooter of its year, come at me bro

>> No.6938776

That's not saying much.

>> No.6938789

the same thing was said about deus ex, thief, and system shock.
nothing has changed, and those games rarely see discussion here despite both deus ex & thief having images in the OP
also bulletstorm is years after the cutoff
id disagree, but i cant think of a single fps from that year

>> No.6938797

Thief 1 was 1998, System Shock 1 and 2 were both 99 or earlier, and Deus Ex has more or less always been okay to talk about even before it was technically allowed on the board.

>> No.6938802

>the same thing was said about deus ex, thief, and system shock.
those games were grandfathered in, they're on the same latitude as ultima underworld

>> No.6938806

im aware
theyre all immersive sims, and not fps game
and deus ex was talked about despite not being formally allowed
my point is nothing changed despite allowing a different genre altogether, so i fail to see how allowing sam would derail the general

>> No.6938816

>my point is nothing changed despite allowing a different genre altogether,
you got it, nothing changed because it's an off topic and not a hi-jack of what this thread is about

>> No.6938817

I personally don't even have a big issue with Sam in particular, but the pushback is because of what's happened to the rest of the board; this thread has remained the same despite the change and people are worried about it slipping into the same realm of despair /vr/ as a whole has become. People are going against Sam for its age more so than it not being the same kind of game as DOOM or Duke. I'm just going to say it, people are worried about Halofags/CoDfags trying to enter the thread and think less radically different FPS like Sam could be a gateway to that.

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I wouldn't mind, but there would need to be a hard stop put on Sam games beyond TSE for the same reason Quake IV isn't discussed in these threads. The fact is, /doom/ is a good base of operations for people to show off their maps, and to get things off the ground like the current Blood /vr/ collaboration, or the 2048 collaboration. I would love to see a classic Sam /vr/ collaboration, and I think that's reason enough to allow ONLY TFE and TSE in these threads. Either way, if not, I won't lose any sleep.

>> No.6938824

>thing A that goes against the "rules" is fine
>thing B that goes against the "rules" isnt

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>> No.6938841

just don't codify off topics in the OP

>> No.6938849

Anon that mades the images here.
Im fully aware of why theres a pushback, and I still hate the mods for essentially killing off Amiga/Commodore/Pinball etc. discussion.
But like >>6938797 says, I dont see how the age for Sam is an issue when Deus Ex was always allowed here, in fact it fits the description of the thread even less than Sam.
I think its slighly hypocritial to say Deus Ex was fine prior to the rules, but now its a problem for Sam. Especially so since the "90s FPS" was just slapped on to the general name. I also just dont see halo/cod ever being allowed here, irregardless if infographs for Sam,Noone Lives Forever, F.E.A.R etc. get accepted.
But at the end of the day its up for the community to decide how we do things. I knew exactly what I was getting into when I decided to make the images, and play close to 1k mods

>> No.6938860
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Serious Sam is allowed or the lollipop gets it.

>> No.6938868

Man, Sam 2 was fucking weird.

>> No.6938878

The fact is, if you switched out "90s FPS THREAD" for "CLASSIC FPS THREAD" TFE and TSE would fit right in, and the nomenclature would very obviously excuse titles like Halo, or Painkiller.

>> No.6938879

>Deus Ex was always allowed here, in fact it fits the description of the thread even less than Sam.
>I think its slighly hypocritial to say Deus Ex was fine prior to the rules, but now its a problem for Sam.
see guys? this is how you boil the frog.

>> No.6938882

>90s thread
>not 90s

>> No.6938891

Your new is showing. The threads used to be called retro fps thread, as early as July of this fucking year.

>> No.6938896

Yeah I know. It used to be Classic/Retro FPS until someone slapped 90s on the OP in response to the rule changes.
Was retro fps until 4 weeks ago.
I dont have an issue with it being allowed or not. I'm just giving my thoughts, and pointing out an obvious contradiction.

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I wonder if being more strict on games like Deus Ex would've prevented the rules change in the first place. We should've been harder on it.

>> No.6938902

>A Serious Case of /vr/

>> No.6938903

>Was retro fps until 4 weeks ago
Because "retro fps" by the rules of the board only included the fucking 90s at the time

>> No.6938904

Deus Ex is on the same engine as UT and Unreal Gold, so it ought to be grandfathered in.

>> No.6938908

I doubt it. Basing off how the announcement thread went,its clear the mod's dont give a shit what the userbase wants, or does.
Deus Ex
June 23, 2000

>> No.6938913

I for once welcome classic sam discussion.
How friendly is the map editor?

>> No.6938914

Deus Ex wasn't allowed on the board and people were breaking the rules posting about it. Nobody cared about the rule break including the mods, but now look at the consequences of that, now we have Sam anon coming in today and tomorrow it'll be something newer

>> No.6938929

>I dont have an issue with it being allowed or not. I'm just giving my thoughts, and pointing out an obvious contradiction.
we just had a dredd discussion in an 90's fps thread and it didn't get nuked. this doesn't mean the thread's suddenly turned into the 2000ad general, it means we sometimes talk about other things than 90's fps.

>> No.6938931

The Ordeal Mod is a pretty good way to play Painkiller. Being able to save your demon morph is way better than just having it trigger.


>> No.6938934

That logic is filled with loopholes as well.
Quake 3's engine is retro and that would allow RTCW, Jedi Knight, and even COD.

>> No.6938941

I think ultimately that is the best solution. I wouldn't mind classic Sam in the OP, but I won't lose sleep over it not being there, as informative as those images are. It is indeed a gateway to things like
>What about Wolfenstein 2001? What about Timesplitters 2000?
Besides, if you really want to talk about it, the best way to do so would be screenshot Saturday and show off a classic Sam map you're making.

>> No.6938952

>Deus Ex wasn't allowed on the board and people were breaking the rules posting about it
Thats my point.
>Nobody cared about the rule break including the mods
Mods dont give a shit about the board at all. Deus Ex most certaintly wasnt the catalyst to their decision.

>> No.6938961
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hi Alf

>> No.6938963

strawman arguement

>> No.6938968

rent free

>> No.6938970
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I'm not a German spastic so I'm not him. Sorry to disappoint.

>> No.6938975

Speaking of Sam.
Did anyone play that Eternal mod in Sam 3?

>> No.6938982

Yeah, people really want to talk about Call of Duty 1 in particular.

>> No.6938993

Yeah, god forbid we'd talk about a game that plays mostly like Quake 2 and Half-Life.

>> No.6939013

Dont forget Medal of Honor, 007, and fucking Elite Force 1-2

>> No.6939015

Jannies, alf and his discord friends are evading bans again!

MOHAA was great, one of the best MP experiences that i had

>> No.6939017

It would also include soldier of fortune

>> No.6939020

sure. it still doesnt fit the theme of the thread

>> No.6939046

>Thief II: The Metal Age
>NA: March 23, 2000

>> No.6939048

See everything that has been said on Deus Ex

>> No.6939049

Is Doom Launcher supposed to be better than ZDL?

>> No.6939051
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Yeah. Runs like crap, and the gameplay can be almost too overwhelming at times. It's composed of 5+ minute arena fights without chainsaw/GK animation to break up focus for a few seconds. Otherwise the Eternal weapons/abilities translate really well to sam levels, overall recommend.

a 2020 gameplay mod for a 2010 remake of a 2001 game is totally retro right

>> No.6939052

still wasnt retro under the old rules and not the same genre

>> No.6939059

remakes of retro games are allowed on this board
>implying that the age of a mod means anything

>> No.6939060

Yes, that is what has been said about Deus Ex in this thread and it applies here too. It SHOULDN'T have been tolerated due to it not being allowed.

>> No.6939063

then remove them :^)

>> No.6939065

Sure, we can do so next OP.

>> No.6939076

And way before that these threads were about Doom and Doom only. Project some more.

>> No.6939083

So what youre saying is that allowing sam would make no difference

>> No.6939086

You did not address the issue at all you fucking tard lmao.

>> No.6939087

ok lets remove everything but Doom then

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This should be a raycasting general. Any game engine that uses true 3D polygons is out. Sorry ZDoomers that means you too.

>> No.6939106

>a 2020 gameplay mod for a 2010 remake of a 2001 game is totally retro right
you say that knowing full well how radically different Zdoom fuckery is compared to DOS

>> No.6939127

but the doom engine isn't a raycaster you smartass poser

>> No.6939129

wow fuck off

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>> No.6939159

I'll be using gzdoom most likely. It'll still be vanilla compatible, so right now I'm focusing on just finishing content for it. Mapping and textures at the moment. Then one more monster and some bits and bobs...

>> No.6939192

Go nuts

>> No.6939196

It looks really nice in Crispy and PrBoom+ so as long as that's still supported, it's all good.

>> No.6939202

Seems a shame to waste that anon's work. I understand people's concern about opening the floodgates but realisticlly nothing will change.

>> No.6939218

> if you play dbp25 in a non-compatible sourceport like crispy doom, it rick rolls you
These guys are next level holy shit.

>> No.6939224

can you fucks please answer my question instead of arguing about sam >>6939049

>> No.6939237

Judge Doom here, is there a way of decoupling the smallfont from the display scale factor and resolution or at least enable proper line wrapping? I can't find anything on formatting beyond \n and I won't have internet until the end of the week and browsing and lurking and doing anything on the phone sucks donkey dicks in hell.

>> No.6939286

If you just want to load up wads in order then ZDL gets the job done. DL keeps stats but it's a memory hog.

>> No.6939301
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DL just leverages the stat logging functionality of various source ports, so you could just log them yourself with a simple launch paramater.

>> No.6939305

The rules need to be reeled back slightly so as to allow games from console and PC hardware up to the year 2003 or maybe 2004.

>> No.6939319
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Autocompletion in FAR Manager is superior to both.

>> No.6939321

not wrong

>> No.6939358

Noone will notice or care if you do

>> No.6939362

Get fucked, Quake is important to this general.

>> No.6939365

Quake is what led to Half Life. It has to go.

>> No.6939370

That question sparked a 30 post discussion about why it would be wrong. Keep up.

>> No.6939371

I'm going to rape you in the eye.

>> No.6939372

by that logic doom lead to quake, which lead to HL
Wrap the thread up guys nothing related to HL can be posted.

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Correct. A lot of people don't seem to actually know what raycasting means.

>> No.6939379

Nah, different engine. The Quake Engine spawned Half-Life and Call of Duty. Quake literally killed the first person shooter.

>> No.6939387

quake would not have been made if not for the success of doom, chuckles

>> No.6939390

it's when I need to write a raycaster to hit worldspace UI things in Unity, right? I knew this was the right place to discuss Dusk all along!

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>> No.6939406

Are you referring to /vr/'s new rules needing to be scaled back or /DOOM/'s rules made less restrictive to allow it?

>> No.6939413

Letting Quake and other id games in was the death knell. Should have always been Doom engine games only. As soon as Quake was let in, it became a retro fps board, then the board rules changed and now it's this weird retro, but only 90s shooter thread. It should have always been just doom.

>> No.6939417

kys quakenigger

>> No.6939426

It's now "FPS games that could've been talked about pre-August 2020," not that crazy.

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What's the best level in Medal of Honor?

>> No.6939445

go back

>> No.6939462

3 people samefagging a discussion
The same autism occured when quake, build games, thief, deus ex, and marathon were added.
If the images are just added to the OP for newfags then noone will give a shit. Just like how it happened for thief/deus ex

>> No.6939463

So this is how liberty dies. With thunderous applause.

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Look, its the de facto Doom thread, we are going to talk about Doom shit.

>> No.6939470

One with turret section. Or where nazis shoot at you.

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>> No.6939476

>a 2020 gameplay mod for a 2010 remake of a 2001 game is totally retro right
GZDoom is a ZDoom-based port which is maintained by Christoph Oelckers (Graf Zahl). It was first released on the 30th August 2005

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>> No.6939495

not one bit
also I fucked up and wrote "yeah" instead so I deleted the post

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>> No.6939541

Really, how does Q2TEST has better looking textures than Q2's Final product?
Has someone ever looked at QTEST and Q3A builds if the same stuff happened?

>> No.6939550

I'll see what I can do to make some simple menus for easy-crispiness-access... Don't know much about it, but a simple resolution scaler, some way to properly get the tine mapping to use the rekkr palette, toggle on/off the brightmap effects/decals... That sort of thing.

>> No.6939553

Not applicable. Stop being a faggot.

>> No.6939575

Hey, I've got an idea. Why don't you start an 00s FPS thread?

>> No.6939581

You used that image twice now buddy, gonna have to try another strawman. Maybe a soijack?

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>> No.6939592

>The same autism occured when quake, build games, thief, deus ex, and marathon were added.

>> No.6939594

that would be great. packing a vanilla compat tc with gzdoom goes the way of wasted effort, doesnt it?

>> No.6939601

Qzdoom might also be a good option since it's lower spec and has a decent software renderer.

>> No.6939609

im not looking through years of archives to prove my point

>> No.6939612

Not entirely, since you can always just swipe the wad from the folder.
But it's a good engine for normies who like the newer features and such, and it scales down pretty nicely. Not to 100% vanilla accuracy for gameplay, but close enough that you won't notice 99% of the time...
I'll look into it.

>> No.6939613

I've been here since the board was created and I don't remember any such fuss, so until you can substantiate your claims I don't believe you.

>> No.6939623

so, basically there's been a slippery slope and you don't want to give proof that anons pointed it out and opposed it.

>> No.6939627

you'd think the date on the album would tell you exactly where to look

>> No.6939635

are you retarded? im literally saying that happened
im lazy, and the album only has a creation date. it doesnt get updated over time

>> No.6939637

they don't wanna because they won't get any posts that way, nobody cares enough about those games to maintain a community about them.

which is why the fucking Year rule change was stupid to begin with.
the occasional "good" /v/ thread for a game was far better for actual discussion.

>> No.6939648

should have made /v2k/
fuck the mods

>> No.6939651

>are you retarded? im literally saying that happened
i'm just wondering where your 500iq argumentation is going to take us

>> No.6939657

see here >>6939635

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>> No.6939678

You niggers are nothing but a bunch of iidiots falling into what Alf Wants it.
Just report and ignore his bait posts, he's been doing this at /vm/ and here.

>> No.6939684

still too lazy :)

>> No.6939690

>Not entirely, since you can always just swipe the wad from the folder.
sure, but you're riding the tide right now and 9 out of 10 dudes downloading rekkr will be consolefags who can't into toaster. their experience with pc doom (if any) is dosbox. presenting your wad running smoothly and close to its compat goals will make an impression

>> No.6939714

Not Rekkr dev, but realistically, how many people are discovering or would have an interest that aren't already into Doom and Doom mods? I have to imagine Rekkr is already pretty niche.

As an aside, I'm thinking about making a graphic showing how to get Vanilla/Crispy graphics settings for all the major source ports for people into that kinda thing.

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Oi what do you shooter nonces think of the DOOM port on me ZX Speccy?
>Amiga literally can't do this

>> No.6939734

>riding the tide
Let's hope that holds out by the time I get something releasable together. Prolly not.
It has been great seeing a wider reaction to it either way.
>how many people are discovering or would have an interest that aren't already into Doom and Doom mods?
Good question. "boomer shooters" are kinda in right now tho, and Ids unity port shows there's a market for convenience.

>> No.6939735

Doesn't Doom use BSP trees instead of raycasting?

>> No.6939743

>how many people are discovering or would have an interest that aren't already into Doom and Doom mods?
Who knows. We cant downplay the influx of popularity/intrest that Brutal Shit brought for bettter or worse (worse). Theres tons of people who only play games on consoles, and turbobrainlets that cant into sourceports. I will literally never play on the Unity version, but I'm glad consolefriends are getting to play a pretty decent port, and also experience some high quality pwads.

>> No.6939764

Seethe, DWterminator, the fuckwit Your opinion is not fact.

>> No.6939772

Yeah, I've got the Unity port on the Switch myself so I can couch co-op with my buds. It's neat that they have shit like Rekkr and Double Impact on it so that consolebros can play em for the first time

>> No.6939773

Why so? Do true 3d Polygons give you super anal bleeding?

>> No.6939785

sorry your thread died, but what more is there to be said about this? amiga is pretty niche, and that speccy port, while interesting, is kinda shit for a version of doom.

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>are you retarded? im literally saying that happened
A missing piece. An argument to surpass Proofster.

>> No.6939812

>Not Rekkr dev, but realistically, how many people are discovering or would have an interest that aren't already into Doom and Doom mods? I have to imagine Rekkr is already pretty niche.
rekkr is in a better place starting out than chex quest, adventures of square or srb2, all of which have standalone fanbases

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>> No.6939824

It runs doesn't it? That's more than can be said for the NES or other microcomputers, and it runs better than the SNES version.

>> No.6939838

What the fuck are you talking about?

>> No.6939843

ignore him, he has the /pol/ parasite

>> No.6939854

You're welcome, anon

>> No.6939857

Sonic was never good.

>> No.6939903

>and it runs better than the SNES version
No it doesn't. And simply running isn't a measure of quality, it's the baseline.

There is the cheaty NES version where they have a separate processor in the cartridge. Which I would argue doesn't really count, but then I guess the SNES version doesn't either by that simple argument.
I guess the SNES one counts more to me because it was made using tools commonly available for a developer of the era. The NES version is 3 decades later...

>> No.6939913

>not giving evidence is /pol/!
Fuck off.

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>> No.6939926

>thinking it's about what you said and not how you said it
based retard

>> No.6939941

Nice misdirection, tranny.

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Simply using that word, be it in an image or not, does not count as a valid argument at all. Seriously, you have been going around shitposting, samefagging, and falseflagging in threads not only here but also on 2ch.hk, 4x2chan(now defunct) 76chan, 8kun(now defunct), Steam forums, Gamefaqs, tinychan, and some other places as well.

>> No.6939959

>screaming /pol/ because of MGSV meme and le proof chicken
So, are you going to link to a post that shows people arguing against adding other first person shooters to the Doom thread or what?

>> No.6939961

You know he's just going to post it again right
And mods will do nothing about low-quality posts like it because /vr/ is just /v/ now

>> No.6939967

>DURR Tranny!

>> No.6939975

what in god's name are you retards going on about

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>> No.6939995

>if i feed the troll, surely he'll go away!
Have you dumbfuck boomers never been on 4chan before? Do you really not understand how this works?

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>> No.6940025

>weekly autism meltdown
I got a better idea, why don't you fucks with zdoom forum accounts get me a download of Malice so I can play it, I'm too lazy to go through the process of signing up for an account I'll only use once

>> No.6940035

Are there any Rise of the Triad source ports that don't crash all the time/are decently accurate? I really don't want to go the DOSbox route so idk if I have to wait for the 3D Realms port to be finished or not to play this game decently.

>> No.6940046

just by disallowing posts that are too short would already cut shitposting in half sitewide
but why do that when you can have traffic and metrics

>> No.6940048

Sadly every option is shit. Unless Kaiser suddenly releases his own, its looking like we just wait for 3DR's

>> No.6940076

> A Kojima Productions game

>> No.6940086

Tim Willits was the true cancer killing id. Prove me wrong.

>> No.6940087

Stop liking the incorrect games.

>> No.6940096

I won't Fucktard. I'm not even a transsexual at all.

>> No.6940101

> I'm not even a transsexual at all.
Then why are you even here bro?

>> No.6940103

Quaketrannies on suicide watch.

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>> No.6940113

True to a point.

>> No.6940116

Counterpoint: Heretic.

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>> No.6940121

What quake mod is this, And How old is it?

>> No.6940128

DM-something-remix, pretty recent. Dark Portal, I think.

>> No.6940138

Thanks buddy, I kinda figured as much

>> No.6940143

Speccy can run it without any of that shite

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>> No.6940196

Kys sonicnigger

>> No.6940198

Why is the magic user so garbage?

>Playing expansion
>Those fucking shield faggots
Takes forever. The axe barbarian chad can just hack those cunts in seconds. This mage pussy has to wait 3 seconds for them to lower their shield just to attack. It fucking SUCKS

>> No.6940212

The lightning spell works pretty well on them. But the frost shards do suck. Although they actually have a melee mode that does as much damage as the axe, but it's slower and has less range.

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He is the sole reason of why Quake 2 and Quake 3 got so many cuts at the end, even the monsters were downgraded in both AI and textures shading detail because he hated Brian Hook and forced carmack to change the entire code, and forced Adrian Carmack, American McGee and Sandy Petersen to leave the company.

He is also the sole reason of Why Vanilla Quake 3 had one of the worse netcodes ever made, which took months to fix it and to get a quick buck he sponsored Mplayer by giving a free sub for all Quake 3 Owners back then.

Now the Incestuous bald fuck managed to fuck even with Crysis remastered and Quake Champions.

>> No.6940229

>Blames one man for multiple different things were hundreds of people were involved across half a dozen different games

Did he code the fucking online multiplayer of Quake 3? Are you saying that Tim Willis is responsible for Crysis remastered being a money grabbing cash grab pile of shit is his fault?

>> No.6940263

Timmy is now the CEO of SABER Interactive, after he fucked over the entire company, on the same way he did to id during QC's development.
And yes, Crysis remastered was being made when he joined it.

>> No.6940274

>doesn't use the ripper wand

>> No.6940292

also i wouldn't be surprised if HE fucked over Hollenstead and Carmack to get Free bonus points with the Altmans, which led to them leaving the company after it

>> No.6940308

>Quake 2 had THAT many cuts
Like what exactly?

>> No.6940323

Which I am not given yet considering im only on the second hub of the expansion. I have only the ice shards.

>> No.6940341

god damn, how is this shit so fresh

thanks for posting this archive, anon

>> No.6940343

Watch decino's videos with the unused stuff for Q2 for a quick rundown
Also the Ai was fucked over by him who forced carmack to change the game's code at the LAST MINUTE, turning Q2 monsters into what we know nowadays, worse he even laughed at it when he told to Brian Hook and Adrian Carmack.
The Super tank boss was harder and could spam grenades from his tracks, also he was faster by the unused animations, berserkers were rabid assholes, and gunners could chase you and shoot grenades while at it

Monster textures and even unit textures were downgraded, Q2TEST and the original promo screenshots shows an entire different and more detailed game than the final product.

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>> No.6940360

Every board is basically shit now except for this one, because every board except for this one has shittons of outsiders from other websites trying to turn everything into a political debate or shitpost with zero sincerity

>> No.6940361

Even though it goes through them, the centaurs still dont take damage from it when shielded.

>> No.6940370

Know where I could find those screenshots?
I always like comparing shit like that. Like the unreal screenshots you'd see in mags from a year before release or so.

>> No.6940392

All of them are at Mobygames

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>> No.6940397

how I disable bilinear filtering on quakespasm again??

>> No.6940406

It's not really running doom at all though.
I mean, neither is the SNES, as far as running code is concerned. But it's at least reading wad information, and some crossover with the original game. Speccy is all from the ground up.

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>> No.6940432

God build is so kino. Shame it gets so little community content.

Recently finished IF and every room is just stuffed with detail.

>> No.6940450

>Shame it gets so little community content.
If only the editors weren't literal dogshit.

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the beta textures and effects seems better than what came with Q3A

>> No.6940542

question for any people who might know
i'm trying to generate a subsector pvs for doom maps right now, and part of the process is mapping segs from a subsector on one side of a two sided linedef, to the corresponding subsector on the other side of that seg, but i'm finding segs that have no exact equivalent on the other side.

Do linedefs get split into segs differently on each side? Probably, but I just want to see if anybody can confirm. This is going to make it trickier :/

doom doesn't use raycasting

>> No.6940543

Whats your experience with the Build editors, have you ever tried to make something with it?

>> No.6940567

Just finished TFE on hard. I see what you people meant about it not being the same as Doom or Quake. Ended up enjoying it, even if the enemy spawning secrets were annoying.

>> No.6940570

Play it on serious.

>> No.6940574

Im not good enough to play Quake on Nightmare, or Doom on UVFast. Hard was already pushing my limits

>> No.6940575

not him but whats so special about serious that everyone seems to agree that is like playing Doom in UV

is it just tighter monster spawns or do enemies gain new attacks or something?

>> No.6940582

more waves of monsters, and much more frequent use of higher tier monsters
enemies also move faster and do more damage

>> No.6940586

Serious doubles your ammo capacity, so it's a bit easier in certain fights than on hard because you don't need to switch around as much. Some of the fights are remixed as well, with new and different enemies appearing along with just higher numbers in general.

>> No.6940602

Remember the Mental difficulty that SS TFE had? THAT shit was ridiculous, for those who don't know it was basically serious mode but where enemies would periodically turn invisible and fuck your day up if you weren't paying attention.

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The IHV leak also contains primitive models for a chainsaw and a flamethrower. Considering the legacy the game has now, I wonder how much these two weapons would've changed it.
Revolution also has unfinished assets for nail grenades and more melee weapons, but that's after the fact.

>> No.6940656

yes, you can totally tell at an artifacted 720p video of someone recording their screen with a camcorder

>> No.6940665

Enjoy TSE!

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How does it feel knowing that the ID characters are actually manlets and Leonard from Redneck Rampage is the true alpha?

>> No.6940681

Who are the two left of him?

>> No.6940686
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They're the player characters from two very obscure FPS games using the Marathon 2 Engine called ZPC and Prime Target.

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>> No.6940698

The fuck you talking about

>> No.6940701

...and both were garbage, far worse than any BUILD game with the exception of Extreme Paintbrawl maybe.

>> No.6940703
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ZPC had a cool art style at least, but the level design and gameplay were just all over the place

>> No.6940707

>two Mac shooters I've never heard of until now
I'm not expecting either of them to be "hidden gems," but ZPC looks like something I'd spend 30 minutes playing if just for the art style alone.

>> No.6940713

There's a PC version of ZPC that still runs on Windows 10 if you want to give it a try it's not too hard to find

>> No.6940720
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>playing Sam on serious

Am I supposed to dodge the kleers and the bulls by strafing or by going backwards diagonally? this is really annoying with just the shotgun

>> No.6940724

You just strafe out of the way at the last second.

>> No.6940730

Too bad he cant jump more than 2 inches off the ground without being instantly magnetized back to the earth.

>> No.6940751

I need doom maps similar to dook
favorite douk maps: duke-burger, freeway and Hotel Hell. Also Lunatic Fringe.

>> No.6940757

DBP14 had Duke-like city maps but with a more apocalypse-ravaged theme.

>> No.6940760

i think the lulziest part of mapster32 is that it absolutely CANNOT handle alt-tab

>> No.6940781

It's my dad's 65th birthday today, I ended up surprising him with a bunch of source ports. It's really cool watching him play Doom 2 again, I think the last time he played the first two games was in the mid-nineties when I was still a toddler.

>> No.6940793

From the left
>Duke Nukem
>Legend of the Seven Paladins Guy(?)
>Marathon Security Officer
>NAM Protagonist
>Lo Wang
>ZPC guy
>Prime Target protagonist
Bitterman and Ranger are missing, though, as are the Hexen protags and Corvus.

>> No.6940805

blueshirt is ROTT, cowboy is Outlaws I think

>> No.6940808

5 is Jon from Powerslave/Exhumed.

>> No.6940846


now here is something old as fuck
and never finished


>> No.6940850

I there a way to turn off Screen flashing everytime I pick up an item

>> No.6940859

Caleb being that small makes sense considering the era he's from. Never thought of that, but surely he's more of a 5'5 kind of guy.

>> No.6940862
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Bob and weave, my friend. It's difficult, but you'll get it eventually.

>> No.6940870

You didn't use protocol 999 to load the map and it's repeating geometry from past the -/+4096u distance. Open the console, type 'sv_protocol 999,' then try loading Shibboleth again.

>> No.6940871

Playing though Quake 1 via Quakespasm

is there a way to turn off the screen flashes everytime I pick up an item

so far I found something in the quake wiki about Background flashing "bf"
so I tried to do this
bf "0"
so far no good

any ideas

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>> No.6940883

Do you usually have to specify comp level? I usually leave it alone and everything seems to work fine.

>> No.6940886

>Do you usually have to specify comp level?
If you're demoing, yes.

>> No.6940897

For uploading demos or maps? In either case yes.

>> No.6940913
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any good absurd, yet still fun mods?

>> No.6940915

When you're playing someone's wad, everything should just work though right? The map will just use the features it needs right? Comp level is just for making sure demos and maps you make follow certain restrictions?

>> No.6940917

How do you align the sides of door textures with the rest of the wall texture behind it in Doom Builder 2? I'm brand new to mapping and want to save as much time fixing texture alignment as I can

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>> No.6940934

>gl_polyblend 0

Much obliged

>> No.6940936

> making boom maps for the first time for nanowadmo
Other than checking out boomedit.wad, any other resources you guys recommend?

>> No.6940964
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ai upscaling is scary as fuck

>> No.6940971

>everything should just work though right? The map will just use the features it needs right? Comp level is just for making sure demos and maps you make follow certain restrictions?

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>> No.6940996

Based son. I am NOT disappoint.

>> No.6941001

it feels like his jaw is broken and hanging open

>> No.6941008
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>Rebellion also scams people with their gaming Ip
i hate rebellion so much
>avp 3 was the first and last game i ever preordered
>game ships with 7 maps for multiplayer 2 of which are survival only
>campaigns are alright but nothing compared to avp2
>mp had a lot of potential and was some of the best fun i ever had but it died not even a month from release
>rebellion promised more maps and modding tools
>had on disc dlc on all platforms
>games horribly bloated with uncompressed assets. some modder managed to compress the game down from 16 gigs to 1.5 with no quality loss
>after releasing the on disc dlc they basically abandon the game, never deliver on modding tools or promised bugfixes and never adding more maps aside from the two that were added by the dlc.
>they promised an evac like game mode and that never came either

fucking rebellion is the worst kind of company.

>> No.6941013

>United Ranger Films
Curious if this inspired id to rename quakeguy to ranger in Q3 or if they just picked a vaguely militaristic term to sound cool

>> No.6941020

it was mostly a homage that turned out good.
though Wrack is a different story

>> No.6941023

what's the deal with wrack

>> No.6941070

Feel free to stay...but never meantion cod here again (if that was also you)

>> No.6941074

hnnnnnnnng, fuck that's kino. A single player Q1 style Q3 campaign that looks like that makes me want to coom

>> No.6941081

I member Wrack. I think is better than Strafe. Then again, they fucked up by ditching a single player game to fund a crappy tower defense shooter.

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>> No.6941120

Wrack was the Ranger reskin right? Did Carnevil really name his game after him?

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>I'm dumptruck_ds, and you've found the quickstart tutorial for Trenchbroom 2.0

>> No.6941169

so, whats the sam4 killcount?

also sam is a bizarre series
on paper, it should be nigh impossible
> enemies have as much health as the player
> basic weapons wouldn't oneshot a player
> enemy attacks can kill the player in a few hits from full health
> all melee enemies are faster than the player
> there's always dozens of them
consider that you kill all this with basic weapons

and you don't even get a bfg with its huge and variable distribution of damage and area coverage

>> No.6941176

It made me tear up, guys. Doom 2 was the very first game I can ever remember, I'd sit in my dad's lap when I was two and watch him play. He was fucking STOKED about Duke3D, Wolf3D, and Quake too, now I just gotta figure out multiplayer shit for all of these games so him and I can deathmatch/coop.

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It's a ridiculously extreme series. Love every second of it. Bowling lines of enemies with the cannon is as good as any BFG variant.
>sam4 killcount
Not finished with it yet, but it doesn't feel much higher than BFE. Probably will end up evening out.

>> No.6941221

I really wish prBoom+ supported widescreen huds in software mode.

>> No.6941225

What if someone asks a simple yes/no question?

>> No.6941232

so when is someone gonna do GBA and TNE

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>> No.6941245

Or colored blood. Or mirrored corpses. Goddamn why can't there be a CrispyBoom.

>> No.6941247

Here's hoping Woof will be that final bridge.

>> No.6941285

Shut up and buy Sniper Elite 1/2/3/4 and Sniper Elite Remastered 1/2/3/4 and pre-order Sniper Elite 5

>> No.6941287

Jfc just make a new thread already, this one was cursed from the start

>> No.6941293

Be the change you want to see.

>> No.6941320

i will make a low poly animu quake TC mod
like megaman legends

>> No.6941321

Can someone help me out on how to make those VN-like segments like from HDoom and other mods?

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>> No.6941345

actually I'm surprised nobody has made a megaman legend stylized quake mod
it's just begging for one

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>> No.6941350

because QuakeC isn't for Grug

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>> No.6941420

I'm probably missing something, but how the fuck can I set random messages in LANGUAGE to be called by a Print function?
I just want to have a button that prints a random message when pressed.

>> No.6941428
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>"There's that fucker!"

>> No.6941473

The very first copy of Doom I was ever able to obtain came with a mod that added phrases in Russian to weapon firing sounds. Like, you shoot shotgun, and it says "Take this!" in Russian. I actually found it on the web several years ago, but I'm too lazy to look for it again. Maybe later.

>> No.6941485

i was wondering if there's a mod that adds stalker's bandit voices to monsters

>> No.6941486

I enjoyed hell levels made of skin in valiant. It was unique take.

I also do still love the original ep 3 and dtwid's variant though. There is something weirdly atmospheric in those.

>> No.6941494

You can already download the stand alone version from their website.

>> No.6941509

Yeah but when the calculator makes it look better is it really worth bragging about?

>> No.6941543

Because PrBoom+'s code is a hideous mess to work with, and then it would more or less mean writing an all new port based on Boom, which may be possible, but you'd have to convince Fabian that's worth it when that UMAPINFO fork is happening.

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>> No.6941594

Hexen and Corvus are a good idea but it's based on how big the actual sprites are so I don't know how bitterman and ranger would fit in unless they're just infinitely big

>> No.6941605

looks like the drummer for clutch

>> No.6941672
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Is there a map pack that adds the PSX Doom maps colored lighting to the original Doom maps?

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A link or a name?

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I just want the original maps with the colored sectors. That TC changes the maps to the downgraded PSX versions.

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>> No.6941786

What's this?

>> No.6941794

>TFE higher than TSE
wasnt expecting that. why is TFE HD so inflated?
Blue Vertigo

>> No.6941798

It's not blue vertigo. The project is called The Space Pirate. It's like the white whale of Doom mods, something that's been in production on and off for awhile now.
Maybe we'll be seeing a playable version of it in some form soon.

>> No.6941812

TFE HD got three brand new levels made for it in the form of DLC. Considering that, the BFE numbers are inaccurate since it doesn't take into account Jewel of the Nile.

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i had a brainlet moment

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still impressive

>> No.6941945

The fanmade prboom port is pretty great too.

>> No.6941960

C language is easier than that which Q2 and q3 uses it but no one ever cared to do it because idiots consider it harder than quake C for Q1

baker was right, mappers and modders nowadays for both quake games suffers from small penis syndrome, while shit like this was easier in the past because people looked for it and it wasn't hard to learn.

>> No.6942027

I like the more GBA-styled music.


>> No.6942029

The Doom 1 samples are way better, they haven't gotten to redoing the Doom 2 music yet.

>> No.6942037

Shame that it makes it more cartoon-ish.

>> No.6942085

Q1, Q2 and Q3 were always cartoonish
Q3 is full of Simon Bisley's art
Adrian and Paul Steed were fans of his art and 2000AD

>> No.6942130

Find a tutorial on voodoo doll scripting. That's used more often in Boom mapping than any feature you'll see in boomedit. That being said, you will stand out if you can use a rarely used Boom feature and use it well, so it is still worth checking out Boomedit. I've never seen wind or currents in a modern Boom WAD for example.

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They're cartoonish, but in a grungy, painted style. One look at the textures can tell you that- they're stylized, but extremely high contrast and detailed for the resolution available, whether it's the greebling on Visor's cybernetics or the cellulite on Lucy's ass. Individual pixel-pushing fills out small patterns and details when needed. Tendons and musculature are raised without losing the realistic texture of flesh and bone. The difference is that upscales like >>6940964 give everything a painterly look and lose a lot of the texture the originals had- individual pixels intended to be used as dithering or details are meshed together as a colored gradient and everything is given broad brush strokes regardless of size or importance, then a generic unsharp mask filter is applied on top.

>> No.6942169

Looking at the .tgas in the folders, the muzzle flashes look cleaner and higher-res than retail Q3, but the weapon textures are certainly smaller in some cases

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Also, the player skins were largely Kenneth Scott's doing, IIRC (https://www.bluesnews.com/screenshots/q3a/apr26/q3ashots.shtml). Adrian and Kevin Cloud were primarily in charge of menu and level assets, while Paul Steed was modeling characters and Kenneth gave them their deliciously grody skins. Scott also shows up in the credits for Daikatana under additional art- the menu and HUD are dead giveaways for his style or someone real good at imitating it.

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Texture compression at work and retarded post edits
Q2Test has more details and shading than Vanilla Q2, the monsters has mode detailed faces but simplier bodies, Vanilla is otherwise.

He and John miller pretty much carried the late 90's and early 2000's
also >>6942158 isn't the real sized texture

also i went on to pass the original tga sized texture on IEU, and is interesting how many different models treats her back metallic shit and the bloody arms.

the Fatality and Faces model keeps in line with what kenneth would do with modern tools, but the flesh and blood in her arms becomes more gory

>> No.6942208

>also >>6942158 isn't the real sized texture
Correct. I upscaled it 100% with nearest neighbor (no filtering) because it's miniscule to try to see the details in otherwise.

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Jesus Christ, the Son of God, died for all the sins of your life (your future sins as well), was buried, and rose again.

And all you need to do to go to heaven and not suffer the second death for your sins is that you believe that he did it for you. Salvation is a free gift of God you can receive it through faith only.

Jesus said in John 5:24:

>> No.6942221

How had I not heard about this yet???

>> No.6942224

Jesus is gay.

>> No.6942248

so is Jesus on new thread duty or what?

>> No.6942250
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Here's the results for slosh

Also i went on to use fatality for Q2 because looking at what i did using Gigapixel in the past, the textures became less sharp, and less colorful for some monsters, plus the fact that i had to compress them to 2x size after the upscaling to save memory for many people.
Pic is the same textures using the model

i kinda wish there it was a downscaling model that keeps all the detail with no blurry compression or loss of contrast and sharpening

>> No.6942284

That's not horrible. Could be better, could be worse.

>> No.6942327

the Phalanx looks great
my old maidens the same too, but Xatrix was kinda lazy with the beta ones, in fact there is a unused maiden texture in it.

>> No.6942332

And civvie released his heretic video

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good thinkin'

>> No.6942365

literally who?

>> No.6942369

Just make a new one ffs

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