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Let me guess, you got filtered.

>> No.6934109

Beat it. Dark souls was harder.

>> No.6934118

>>6934109
Dark Souls is meme game for midwits. It's easy if you aren't braindead or have the reflexes of a 100 yo

>> No.6934120

>>6934051
I can't get filtered if I never play it!

>> No.6934131

>>6934109
Dark Souls was also more fun to be quite honest.

>> No.6934157
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6934157

>>6934051
Nah, filtered on this sucka

>> No.6934158
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6934158

played the ps3 version
don't know what the differences are but didn't seem that hard to be desu

>> No.6934160

Yep, I was too weak minded to beat it back then.

>> No.6934169

>>6934051

I could not beat Alma on master ninja mode. Maybe it's time to try again.

>> No.6934524

I beat it, though ever since when I bend my pinky fingers they snap back and forth instead of move smoothly.

>> No.6934610

>>6934169
Regular or Awakened Alma?
In either case, just save up Ninpo and devil elixirs so that you can use your Ninpo to immediately get rid of the smaller enemies whenever they spawn.

>>6934158
If you beat it on Normal, then yeah it's moderately challenging, but the NG series is one of the few series out there that actually makes meaningful changes on higher difficulties.
>new enemies and bosses exclusive to higher difficulties
>bosses on difficulties higher than normal get minions that spawn at specific thresholds
>item placements get remixed, with stronger upgrades/items being placed far later in the level
>weapons that you can only get on higher difficulties (you can't for example get the Dark Dragon Blade greatsword on Normal difficulty)
>in NG Black, attacks that you can parry on Normal can no longer be parried on higher difficulties

>> No.6934613

yes I did. Fuck those black mantis ninjas clowning on me. I still respect the hell out of this game though.

>> No.6934623

This game was really tough. I think in comparison dark souls is easier because it is an RPG you can level up your character and get stronger weapons. Also dark souls the enemies also always spawn in the same place.

>> No.6934625

>>6934157
filtered by that cover art if anything

>> No.6934636

>>6934610
>>6934158
Oh, I also forgot:
>the amount of max items you can carry with you get significantly cut down the higher you go in difficulty
I believe you can carry like 5 max healing potions on normal but you can only carry like 2 on master ninja difficulty

>> No.6934673

>>6934051

i've cleared everything on MN, so no. also, anyone who says this is easier than dark souls legitimately has brain damage

>> No.6934676

>>6934636
>using healing potions
Look at this bitch boy

>> No.6934758
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6934758

>>6934610
>>6934636
>Regular or Awakened Alma?

The Save Rachel chapter. So many years and still I feel that unfinished job feeling.

>In either case, just save up Ninpo and devil elixirs so that you can use your Ninpo to immediately get rid of the smaller enemies whenever they spawn.

Thanks for the tips, kind anon. NGb will be the first retro game I'll play as soon as I get the new Xbox.

>> No.6934769

>>6934758

awakened alma on MN is one of the hardest fights if not the hardest in the game. you need to be fully prepared, fully stocked with items, and you also need to have a solid strategy or you are just going to get rekt forever

>> No.6934787

>>6934758
If you want more tips, check this out. I wrote this a while back to celebrate NGB getting added to backwards compatibility on Xbox One.
I talk about a lot of things that players need to know that the game doesn't teach, like how clicking on the right analog stick enables actual modern camera control.
https://www.reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/78mosk/essential_tips_for_those_getting_into_ninja/

And if you want to see a really good NGB player (and by really good, I mean arguably the best player in the world) to learn what to do, check out this guy. He regularly streams NGB to this day and has like 6,000+ hours in the game and has done just about every challenge run you can think of.
https://www.youtube.com/c/JayTB123/videos

>> No.6934889

>>6934131
>>6934109
dark souls relies on gimmicks and surprises for most of its difficulty. its a shit game i got bored of before I even finished it. I say that as someone who enjoys kings field and other FROM titles. Dying from cheap bullshit the first time you encounter it over and over and having to back track isnt fun.

The thing about NGB that makes it a good game is that its hard but its always fair. The first level will filter most people, but with what you learn in the first level, you can use that if you are smart to beat the entire game. It rewards caution and observation and punishes charging in and attacking wildly. Dark souls hardly gives you a chance to figure out whats going on, and often times you just die without understanding what happened or what you did wrong. Many deaths in dark souls feel like a waste of time or random, in NGB they always have a clear lesson of what you did wrong. NGB is a consistent experience the entire way through, which is why people say if you can beat the first level on a difficulty, you can beat the rest of the game on that difficulty, even though in most games the later stages are considered the hardest. Dark souls is a shit game and if it wasnt for the ambience the world has, no one would talk about it.

>> No.6934920

>>6934625
fair enough, it's pretty bad lol.

i played the first ninja gaiden on xbox (and the 8 bit titles obviously), does black do anything that makes it a must-play?

>> No.6934952

>>6934920

black basically fixes everything that wasn't great about NG and adds a metric shit-ton of extra content

>> No.6935043
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>>6934920
>does black do anything that makes it a must-play?
Yes, quite a lot.

>> No.6935551

>hard at first but gets easier once you get a hang of the controls
>challenging but fun for a few levels
>sudden difficulty spike around chapter 6 with the enemies with spider armor that rape you at every street corner
I know I can beat it but Jesus Christ these guys are a pain in the ass

>> No.6936076

>>6935551

Protip: Use Smoke Bombs. They are extremely cheap and cause enemies to break their focus on you for a few seconds. You can use this window to juggle them or combo them.

Another protip: Learn how to do on-landing essence/ultimate techniques. What you do is when you jump, AS SOON AS YOU LAND, briefly hold triangle. Any essence that is floating in the air will go into your weapon and you'll immediately do an essence technique. For most enemies, this immediately decapitates them. It basically saves you from having to spend 3-4 seconds standing still and charging up an essence technique manually.
Here is the technique in action. You see the player doing this at 7:46
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EUC8P4Hpz4

>> No.6936178

XYXXXY

>> No.6936209
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>>6934109
>beat it
>on ninja dog
no wonder dark soul was harder for you

>> No.6936236

>>6934920
>it's pretty bad lol.
i know people here have shit taste, but this takes the cake.

>> No.6936248

>>6935551
Spider armor?

>> No.6937162

>>6936209
>if I pretend he said something then it means I win
Do idiots really...?
Also Ninja Gaiden wasn't very hard. You can easily beat it by spamming the various OP combos

>> No.6937216

>>6937162
such as what combo?
please do share.

>> No.6937219

Beat the tank then forgot to keep playing it. Suppose it's not honorabru but I doubt I'll go back to it.

>> No.6937231

>>6937216
Izuna drop will carry you at least through hard mode and it's very simple to spam and has a lot of invo frames. I know because it did for me as a kid

>> No.6937398

>>6937231
>expected izuna drop
>like clockwork
yes and im sure you will also say flying swallow spam next right?
please keep sharing your op combos.

>> No.6937492

>>6937398
I bet most of /vr/ is too retarded to inzuna drop an enemy.
That's right, you fags couldn't pull off an XYXXXY if you had a gun to your head.

>> No.6937512

the thing that made me laugh the most about black was.... how opponents now actively block the flying sparrow move, the devs must have been quite aware that this was the number one move everyone and their cats spammed in the first ng game.

>> No.6937528

The thing that i am quite proud of, is finishing ninja gaiden sigma on hard mode with the flimsy, piece of shit DS3 controller. That wasnt an easy feat. I tried the game the other night again with the DS4. And it was like night and day. Sony controllers are so rubbish.

>> No.6937546

>>6937512

well of course cookie-san wised up to it after ninja gaiden (not black). You just have to trick the AI when spamming in between shit.

>> No.6937645

>>6937528
>ligma

>> No.6937819

>>6936076
Thanks for the help anon I'll give it a shot next time.
>>6936248
I may have my lore wrong but I believe at the beginning of the chapter it was mentioned that the enemies are from The Black Spider Clan, or something along those lines.

>> No.6937853

>>6934131
yep DS is just better crafted in terms of boss battles and exploration, combat variety, has actual pvp even if it's a bit janky, and way better atmosphere. I wanted to see the next levels as I progressed through Dark Souls, the world was just so interesting.

NG is fun like a mindless action game where you just grind combos and enemy patterns, the level design is trash, the world is just empty corridors and braindead platforming. But the challenge is decent in NG, still not as good as Dark Souls. Full stop.

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>>6937853
>NG is fun like a mindless action game where you just grind combos and enemy patterns, the level design is trash, the world is just empty corridors and braindead platforming. But the challenge is decent in NG, still not as good as Dark Souls. Full stop.
the absolute state of soulsniggers

>> No.6937860

>>6937853
nah NG isn't even good, battles take way too long and require way too much mashing. I remember being in an air plane and fighting enemies for like 10 minutes in a row, just non stop fucken braindead enemies spawning over and over and over.

>> No.6937868

>>6937860
filtered.

>> No.6937871

>>6937860
Dark Souls has blight town and some suspect levels too.

>> No.6938054

Dark Souls? More like Dull Shit, am I right?

>> No.6938062

>>6937871
blight town is memorable and fun after you figure it out, NG levels are forgettable

>> No.6938090

>>6934109
you didn't beat master ninja mode and especially ng2 master ninja guaranteed or you money back

>> No.6938127

>>6934889
my first death in dark souls 2 was thinking i had a jump button and falling of a cliff because tge fane didn't tell me there was none

>> No.6938202

Ninja Gaiden definitely was the number one pleb filter. The gaiden even filtered out some gaming journalists, hard.

>> No.6938296

>>6938090
Yes I did. Dark souls NG+ was harder.

>> No.6938335

man all this talk of DS makes me want to play it again. NG I beat it, it was okay, once and done. Nice little game to throw away.

>> No.6938519

>>6934109
Great (you) farming post. Zoomer Souls is easy as fuck.

>> No.6938543

>>6934051
nah, it was pretty mediocre

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>>6938296

>NG+ was harder.

lmao wut

>> No.6938595

>>6938519
I found NG easier, shorter and much more forgiving.

>> No.6938602

DS gothic theme > NG weebshit theme

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6938634

>Reddit Souls
>better than based NG

>> No.6939907
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6939907

Making casuals seethe for 16+ years

>> No.6940115

>>6938634
I didn't say better. I said harder. Hard != better. NG is very laid back and comfy in comparison even on Master Ninja than the tedious artificial hardness that is Dark Souls.

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6940267

>>6934769

At that time it looked to me like it was pure luck to knock Alma down. BUT..:

>>6934787
>https://www.youtube.com/c/JayTB123/videos

That dude's NGb playslist/tutorials are insane. Many thanks.

>> No.6940314

>>6938634
>>6940115
truly L'ing my A all the way O

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6940328

>>6936236
Really? A bland-ass portrait of Hayabusa in front of some cg flames is enough to get you going?

It's basically the NES cover with anything remotely interesting removed

>> No.6940338

>>6940328 here
nevermind, i'm retarded

>> No.6940352

>>6937398
It's almost like said combo is really fucking good and makes the game a joke! Like what the fuck do you expect? Jesus christ

>> No.6940378

>plays NG on normal mode
>thinks its easier than souls
Well yeah no shit. I can beat normal mode without dieing. I can beat souls games with a handful of deaths. I can't beat Master Ninja without dieing a shit load of times.

>> No.6940540

>>6940378
cool story bro

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6941046

>>6940328
Here's the real boxart

>> No.6941064

>>6934051
so fucking filtered.
I got it when it came out and I've never been good at games but holy shit was it hard. Don't think I lasted more than 10 minutes.
I wish I still had it but I'm sure I ended up selling it/trading it etc.
would love to see how ruthless it is today