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why was 90s youth culture so awesome compared to today's?

>> No.6930484

>>6930483
Because you were a youth, retard.

>> No.6930491

>>6930484
i'm 19 you nigger.

>> No.6930496

>>6930491
This board is for 30+. Kill yourself on the way out.

>> No.6930504

>>6930483
Well it depends, were you a kid during the 90’s? if yes then it’s just nostalgia, if you weren’t a kid in the 90s and you still think it was more awesome then today, then you are probably autistic/loner/nerd, because how can someone else’s youth culture give you this idea? You didn’t experience it, so It’s one or the other. You are either autistic or just old.

>> No.6930506

>>6930504
autism it is then.

>> No.6930517

>>6930491
Don't get too wistful about it. You would have been a loser in the 90s too.
>>6930504
\thread

>> No.6930523

>>6930504
No, I really do think today's kids grow up in a shittier, more exploitative environment. Aughts kids were the last to get any sort of bullshit-free childhood. And that's only because the internet was still untamed; they could escape from 9/11 and all that associated garbage slowly rotting out meatspace. I feel today's youth have nowhere to turn that they're not being had.

>> No.6930539

>>6930523
You wrote a paragraph of nonsense, I’m begging you to re read what you wrote and re write it

>> No.6930558

>>6930539
You have failed to articulate what you find so nonsensical about it.

>> No.6930580

Growing up a young boy in the 90s was absolutely goddamn fantastic because we were the main target audience for just about fucking everything that was being sold during that era. Nowadays there is nothing but disdain for boys to the point where they are cutting their cocks off and taking HRT at record breaking and astronomically higher levels than ever in history. Anyone who says growing up in the 90s wasn't better than today is suffering from an exceedingly clear case of "Fox and the Grapes"

>> No.6930598

>>6930491
The only reason it seems so cool is because you weren't there. I used to wish I grew up as a child in the 70s.

Enjoy what you have now because in 20 years some young punk will think it's the bee's knees.

>> No.6930605

>>6930523
>I really do think today's kids grow up in a shittier, more exploitative environment.
Literally every generation says this. Every single one.

>> No.6930613

>>6930483
>Yoshi's Island
What a snoozefest.

>> No.6930618

>>6930605
Because they did.

>> No.6930628

>>6930605
Maybe they're right; maybe it really has been one long, slow slide into the furnace for the last 50-some-odd years.

>> No.6930632

Because everything was a lot more small in scale. The internet existed sure, but accessing it was basically a ritual in itself. Instead of every single person having the internet in their pockets these days always connected.

>> No.6930662

They were still producing things for boyish and childish tastes. Kid's entertainment wasn't aimed at appeasing flabby 30 year old Youtubers and screeching feminists.

>> No.6930674

>>6930605
It's been true for a while. The Boomers were the last generation to have it better than their predecessors.

>> No.6930676

>>6930632
I liked the clear delineation: IRL is IRL and online is online. Keep everything in its place and don't cross the fucking streams and you should have a reasonably good time. I still can't believe when I was a teen I didn't realize how fucking terrifying it would be to have the internet constantly threatening to drown your life every single waking moment. It's actually work to get away from it for any amount of time.

>> No.6930682

90s no communism 20s communism

>> No.6930698

A lot of zoomers in here will tell you because you were a kid but it's actually true. 90s were just better for childhood.

There was a lot more mystery to things back then. Everything was physical instead of digital and you needed these magazines to get the latest scoop on games. There was no internet to tell you how to beat everything or reveal all the mysteries. You heard it on the playground, in a magazine, or not at all. One of your friends would be breaking their balls to beat some game and you'll be like, "Oh, I know how to beat that game.", or, "I know a code." That's because you had the power. Nintendo Power, motherfucker!

>> No.6930701

>>6930682
But the PRC existed in the 90s too.

>> No.6930702

>>6930483
damn it was so awesome playing over and over hugo, tarzan, lilo and stitch and amerzone for psx because there was no internet and you could not modchip it yourself, and you were stuck with whatever cheap shovelware garbage you could find in a store
so cool /s

>> No.6930721

>>6930701
China was always shit.

>> No.6930725

>>6930598
I'm 28 and the 90s was the best time. Everything else before and after seems obviously worse.
If I had to change anything about when I grew up I would just make myself be born a few years earlier so I could more fully experience the 90s.
The 90s (for Americans anyway) was after America's victory in the cold war and before 9/11. It was objectively a very unique time.

>> No.6930729

>>6930721
Then who are you referring to? Whence Communism?

>> No.6930732

>>6930628
It has. The bad guys won WW2 and everything since then has been the slow consolidation of their absolute power.

>> No.6930735

>>6930729
Communism in the US and Europe. Nothing good can happen here while it exists.

>> No.6930749

>>6930702
>being that dumb kid who only buys shovelware licensed games
lol. I made that mistake once.

>> No.6930753

>>6930702
Most people from the 90s thought the PSX would fail at first. It just seemed way too much like Sony was another megacorp attempting a "Me too!" in the console wars. And a bunch of the older people remembered how that went for Mattel, Coleco, etc.

>> No.6930761
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remember Gogos?

>> No.6930784

>>6930735
Most of that is being funded by China.

>> No.6930789

>>6930483
Because you're nostalgic. Even if it's not a time when you lived, you can still be influenced by the remains of the culture in your own youth. Old entertainment your parents bought. Reruns and rentals. Zeitgeist isn't so solidly divided by years. It bleeds into the future.

At the end of the day, you shouldn't waste time and energy comparing, just reminisce and enjoy.

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>>6930761
Remember Alf? He's back! In pog form.

>> No.6930837

we got a real nice thread here simmering. god nostalgiafags, wrong-generation tards, pol/fuckers, and generally lot of emotional fellas. i'll be leaving but I want OP to know go back to /v/, thank you!

>> No.6930852

>>6930837
You are so much better than we are. Please stay so that we can bask in your glory, exalted one.

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>You are so much better than we are. Please stay so that we can bask in your glory, exalted one.

>> No.6930864

>muh nostalgia
not retro vidya
>>>/b/

>> No.6930881

>>6930858
man, you should have just rolled with it

>> No.6930896

>>6930483
Innocence. Now with the internet that's gone forever. "Kid" stuff is forever cringe now. Everybody, even kids, watches disgusting degenerate porn and horrible marxist propaganda, and nobody can have their own opinions or cliques anymore. I'm sure you've noticed that even fast food restaraunts refuse to be "kiddy" anymore.

>> No.6930943

Outside of technological progression, I think the biggest difference really lies in the music. Every generation had their own music & subcultures etc, in school you had the punks,skinheads,metalheads etc and the girls fawned over Duran Duran. Last big thing I remember was that little shit head Justin Bieber and One Direction, ever since those passed I don't have a clue what they listen to.

>> No.6931073

>>6930896
this, toys were all over the place, snacks and sodas would come with tazoos, gogos and shit like that.
i remember those sodas with pokeballs on the cap, cool shit, kids today would rather watch some tranny midget anal rampage on their smartphones.

>> No.6931079

>>6931073
Maybe you just don't go to toy stores/aisles anymore sense, you know, you're not a child

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>>6930483

>> No.6931089

Embarrassing thread. You guys are in your 20s and 30s and sound like old fucking men. Get a grip

>> No.6931095

>>6930837
>NOOOO! THE CURRENT YEAR IS SO GOOD!
>posts on /vr/

>> No.6931103

>>6931095
The current year is the only choice we have. Keep living in the past.

>> No.6931107

>>6931103
Things can't get better until you acknowledge they've gotten worse.

>> No.6931109

>>6931107
Did you get that out of a fortune cookie? What are you doing to "make things better"? Shut up kid

>> No.6931118

>>6931073
>>6931079
>>6931089
Hell, back in 2008 I was a volunteer firefighter. I went with one of the older guys to an elementary school to show and teach kids stuff. I was amazed at the clothes the kids wore; they all looked like mini adults. If you look at the shit we wore in the 90s its night and day different.

>> No.6931119

>>6931107
You only think things have gotten worse because you where more ignorant and sheltered in the past

>> No.6931120

>>6930676
And now I've realized we're paying the fucking price for associating our online selves with real life selves; cancel culture. You can't say or do anything slightly outside of the mob rule without someone recording it and taking it out of context to ruin your life, or find something mean you said online and bring it up to the public. When back in the day, this was the EXACT reason using real life credentials to sign up for a website was looked down upon and you never gave anyone so much as your real name.

>> No.6931121

>>6931109
I'm discussing what I don't like about the world with like minded individuals, in the hopes that if enough people hear, something will change.
Better than just wallowing in despair and quiet compliance, I reckon.

>> No.6931124

>>6931079
im talking about toys coming as bonus, i still buy some of those same snacks and they dont have the kiddy shit, not even those tiny stickers.

>> No.6931127

>>6931118
Did the lack of neon oversized tshirts really upset you that much?

>> No.6931130

>>6931119
>when I was a kid
>video games fun
>no gay shit everywhere
>now...
No, things have definitely gotten worse.

>> No.6931137

>>6931121
You are quite literally screaming into the void. You are posting on 4chan you fucking idiot. You are wasting your time and everyone else's here. Go to /v/, /tv/, /pol/, or any other gateway board to yell at clouds and act like curmudgeons will fellow misanthropes.

You want actual advice my dude? Focus on the things that you LIKE. That'll make you feel better. That'll make the world look better. You focus on negative shit, you're going to be negative. And don't confuse this for conversation, I don't wanna have to reply to you.

>> No.6931138

>>6931127
Yeah. Between that and souless modern metro shit, yeah.

>> No.6931139

>>6931124
Sounds like they realized they can save money by just relying on brand recognition instead of luring in new buyers with cheap crap

>> No.6931146

>>6931137
If you didn't recognise there was a certain power in this, you wouldn't be so intent on stopping me.

>> No.6931148

>>6931130
Because you where more ignorant and sheltered

>> No.6931150

>>6931146
I figure you had a screw loose but after this post now I'm sure of it. Fucking whacko. Remember folks, when you're arguing on 4chan it's with literal crazies like this one. So don't get too invested.

>> No.6931156

>>6931150
Your attempts at social shaming mean nothing to me.

>> No.6931158

>>6931138
What a pitiable perspective

>>6931146
I think it's more that you're annoying, and people want you to stop annoying them

>> No.6931159

>>6931156
Yeah yeah. Just don't buy a gun or anything.

>> No.6931162

>>6931156
Oh I think it's VERY clear social shaming means nothing to you

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>>6931139
>cheap crap
some of them were cool, would take that instead of soulless corp minmaxing profit.

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>>6931148
It was a different time

>> No.6931186

>>6931162
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnBdGTX3vZc

>> No.6931187

>>6931172
I'm not saying they weren't fun, but it's pretty clear companies realized it's not worth it when everything's boiled down to recognizable surviving brands people will buy over and over on their own

>> No.6931192

>>6931178
>The Sun
I'm pretty sure they still do this sort of thing

>> No.6931202

Was it like this boomers?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc3jwEPJyW8

>> No.6931203

>>6931162
Of course social shaming doesn't mean anything to us otherwise we would not have played video games back when we were kids. Admitting you liked video games back then was a guaranteed way of permanently establishing yourself as a loser and we did it anyway because we valued being ourselves over social acceptance.

>> No.6931229

>>6931203
What a load of crap. Video games were ubiquitous.

>> No.6931234

>>6931203
In the 90's?
Maybe if you lived in more rual areas, but in the suburbs they where as normal as Cable and Blockbuster

>> No.6931243
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6931243

I remember everyone talking shit about them throughout the entire 90s.

>> No.6931245

>>6931229
>>6931234
Couldn't make it any more obvious that 6th console gen was your first.

>> No.6931250

I'm just willing to accept theres both good things and bad things about the cultures of every decade.

>> No.6931254

>>6931245
I'm sorry your childhood was not only shit, but you hang onto it as the best part of your life.

>> No.6931262

>>6931250
Good. That's the observation of a rationally minded person

>> No.6931289

>>6931245
Buddy, (you) weren't an outcast because you played video games

>> No.6931378

>>6930896
>I'm sure you've noticed that even fast food restaraunts refuse to be "kiddy" anymore.
McDonald's still has happy meals so I dont know what the fuck you're on about

>> No.6931389

>>6930483
Because it was more physical for one thing. Everything is online nowadays, which is convenient but can get boring.

>> No.6931391

>>6931378
You wouldn't, zoomer.

>> No.6931394

>>6931389
Now this is actually true. A lot of our entertainment back then was more tactile

>> No.6931419

>>6930818
I fucking loved Pogs. And Monster In My Pocket. Opening the pack wondering which one(s) you'd get. I know stuff like that exists today but still...

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>>6931378
As this ifunny image shows, McDonald's has been trying to update its image lately. A lot of locations have gotten rid of their PlayPlaces too.

>> No.6931432

>>6931391
No really. What are you referring to? They still got toys, they still got playscapes. What are you wistful for that isn't here anymore?

What's causing you to act like every single sad old man before you?

>> No.6931436

>>6931432
See >>6931423.

>> No.6931440

>>6931436
You're mad they changed their roofs?

>> No.6931442

>>6931440
It's not just the roofs, that's just part of it. I'm not mad either, just making an observation.

>> No.6931448

>>6931442
>that's just part of it
So what's the other part?
Fewer playscapes?

>> No.6931450

>>6931423
That garish old building looks like it was made out of plastic, I'm glad those old fast food buildings aren't in trend anymore, it's embarrassing enough resorting to eating from there, let alone being seen there.

>> No.6931452

>>6930725
>I'm 28 and the 90s was the best time.
That's only because you were 5 and no responsibilities. You didn't really live in the 90s.

>> No.6931461

>>6931450
Things look too sterile now in general.

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>>6931432
I see somebody already beat me to it.

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>>6931462
But they still do have child mascots.
Honestly, if you're going to make a complaint about McDonalds, you should point out the abysmal typography on their bags.

>> No.6931476
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6931476

This is just le wrong generation faggotry. More over, if you're worried about muh youth culture, you're a retarded faggot. There's more pressing shit that's fucked up now than muh McDonalds roof muh bright colors. If you're worried about that, you're an idiot. Parents sticking their kids in shit and piss covered play pens and feeding them diabetic sugar snacks with a gameboy in hand was that generation's equivalent of handing a kid a tablet, because fuck parenting.

>> No.6931485

>>6931391
I'm 31.

>> No.6931487

>>6931423
Funny because my nearest McDonald's looks like the bottom and yet still has a play area.

>> No.6931490

>>6930483
SOUL

>> No.6931495

>>6931461
I prefer sterility from an establishment that serves my food over a bunch of dirty muppets and a clown in a building that looks like a 7 year old designed it; as seen here >>6931462
Fuck the old McDonalds and the retarded mascots they used to sell their greasy shit.

>> No.6931501

>>6931485
aka another millennial who only has attachment to muh 90s because you were a child with responsibilities or hardships

>> No.6931502

>>6931501
I think you may have lost track of the argument

>> No.6931505

>>6931501
What? I'm not in this thread upset that McDonald's doesnt look like a giant toy.

>> No.6931507

>>6931502
lol you're right
>>6931505
My mistake I'm retarded

>> No.6931508

>>6931485
I'm 32, I outrank you zoomer

>> No.6931510

>>6931507
We're good.

>>6931508
Shut up, nerd.

>> No.6931512

>>6931476
This.
The more things change, the more things stay the same.

People have been bitching and moaning about ultimately minuscule social changes for the next generation ever sense writing was a thing

>> No.6931515

>>6931510
>Shut up, nerd.
You gonna cry about it, zoom-zoom?

>> No.6931521

>>6931512
True to an extent, that's always there, but the internet is actually a huge change for society (along with all the other new technology). It's not just minuscule changes people are talking about.

>> No.6931523

>>6931515
That reminds me, I need to filter that

>> No.6931531

>>6931521
Not to throw a wrench in things, but the internet was very gradually integrated into society sense the 80's, gaining prominence in the mid 90's.
It is a massive social change, but not one that perfectly divides generations and decades

>> No.6931539

>>6931531
Yeah, that's true. I think it's interesting though seeing kids now that have never known a world without ubiquitous high speed internet.

>> No.6931543

>>6931531
Very gradually is relative. It wasn't overnight, but it was still within a generation or so.

>> No.6931546

>>6930523
>they could escape from 9/11
hahahaha they could not. You're either too young to actually have experienced post 9/11 hysteria or you're just retarded. I was born in 93 and I was 8 when they happened. Pls lurk moar.

>> No.6931602

>>6931539
I mean, you could say the same thing about cable, local broadcast, telecommunications, household electricity, and so on

>> No.6931613

>>6931602
Yeah, those were also big shifts.

>> No.6931876

>>6931462
Soul and soulless. Wow.

>> No.6931926

>>6931476
>There's more pressing shit that's fucked up now than muh McDonalds roof muh bright colors
Like kids being brainwashed into thinking they're male because they have a penis. The proletariat needs to rise up against the bourgeoisie scum. Everything must be burnt to the ground so true communism can exist. We're all equal except when brown people are greater. Gib me monies

>> No.6931934

>>6931602
I think the internet is different to them because it totally erases any sense of place or proximity. It follows you everywhere in a way television can't.
Sometimes I feel like just leaving the internet behind, but its formed such a massive part of my life since I got it in 98 that to go without seems utter alien, and almost a little scary. I stopped watching TV without a hitch, but the internet?

>> No.6932013

bump

>> No.6932026

As an animation fan, I envy the kids who grew up in previous decades and who were able to see so much quality animation on the big screen.
I grew up with same-y Pixar CGI stuff all my childhood, I just didn't know any better.

>> No.6932030

>>6932026
>that sunrise in the lion king in a cinema back then
Fucking awesome.

>> No.6932136

>>6932026
They still do screenings of old movies you moron. Who am I kidding, no one on this site leaves their basement.

>> No.6932185

>>6931423
I hate modern minimalism

>> No.6932198

>>6931423
Bottom looks fine. If you're an adult and you strongly prefer the top that's a little odd to say the least

>> No.6932208

>>6932198
OK, NPC

>> No.6932216

>>6932208
Imagine getting mad because people don't like your clown house

>> No.6932226

>>6931876
Bro it's corporate branding it never had soul

>> No.6932261

>>6930483
minecraft obliterated children's appreciation for aesthetics

>> No.6932267

>>6931423
Anyone praising the top is a child or forgot how fucking dirty and disgusting McDonalds used to be. You didn't even want to go inside one until they fixed their image.

>> No.6932269
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>The bad guys won WW2 and everything since then has been the slow consolidation of their absolute power.

>> No.6932308

>>6932226
sounds like coping on your part.

>> No.6932315

>>6932269
If the Nazis won WWII McDonald's would still have playplaces

>> No.6932316

>>6932136
>old movies
>old
That's the key word.
Anyway, I'm impressed by the amount of modern apologists in this thread.
I get that you have to defend your childhood, but come on.

>> No.6932323

Stop liking the past.
Embrace digital era and social media.
Consume digital. Live social media.

>> No.6932326

>>6932308
I can't even tell if this is sarcasm anymore. People on this site call themselves free thinkers then spend their time worshipping fucking advertisements. I refuse to believe you're serious

>> No.6932343

>>6932326
>advertisements can't have soul

>> No.6932349

>>6932316
The guy said he wanted to watch old movies on the big screen. If a kid wanted to watch Lion King in a movie theatre, he could find a screening (not now cuz of corona but yknow what I mean)

Anyway shut the fuck up if you aren't gonna say anything worthwhile

>> No.6932354

>>6932343
That's true.

>> No.6932356

>>6930896
>internet
This right there. The internet was the death of Innocence. And the end of immagination and childhood magic. Everyone and their kids are dopamine addicts now.

>> No.6932357

>>6932326
Nobody is worshipping advertisements, simply commenting on how trends change.
People weren't afraid of colors and uniform shapes back in the 90s.
The 00s onwards have a much more sterile and somber look, which goes in line with the general atmosphere of the world post-9/11.
It's not only about advertisement, it's about society as a whole. Yes, that includes advertisements.

>> No.6932360

>>6932343
Packaging lies to sell something mass produced is the definition of soulless. Soul is a sign by the side of the road saying "home-made".

>> No.6932362

>>6932349
>Anyway shut the fuck up if you aren't gonna say anything worthwhile
You didn't say anything worthwhile yourself, so.
Stop defending your own era.

>> No.6932364

>>6932354
>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTROI2ODRM4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nKywTkMnAs

>> No.6932367

>>6932364
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNbmJyL872c

>> No.6932371

>>6932360
Even if you're selling lies, you can still put care into the advertisement itself. Commercials can be entertaining and crafted with soul.

>> No.6932372

>>6932357
>>6931876

>> No.6932374

>>6932371
No, they can't. Or else they'd be a different form of art. Art made with the intent of commercial success is soulless by definition.

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Michelangelo's Sistine Chapel was an advertisement for God.

>> No.6932381

>>6932376
As advertisement that only the cardinals could see. You ain't the brightest bulb in the shed

>> No.6932383

>>6932360
And yet retards who brought us the soul meme lived in communist shitholes where they killed anyone religious. Leftism (far) is the death of art and soul.

>> No.6932385

>that one faggot who defends modern times
I bet he works in some shitty advertisement agency and is ashamed of how much of a joke modern advertisement is.

>> No.6932386

>>6932383
Shut up schizo, adults are talking.

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>>6932364
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv_YCSbWP78

>> No.6932392

>>6932385
They're no defending modernity, just acceptance that it is what it is. We live in the present. Nostalgiafags living the past are mentally ill. You all sound like old men bitching about how Coke used to taste better. It's honestly fucking sad for a lot your age

>> No.6932401

soul = I like thing
soulless = I do not like thing

Either way you're a retard if you use these terms to describe anything; corporate advertisement, product, or not.

>> No.6932398

>>6932392
And why do you care so much? You still sound like a corporate apologist.

>> No.6932403

>>6932392
Right, just accept things are bad and never speak a word of it.

>> No.6932408

>>6932403
I'm that you're so deluded that you think nostalgia circlejerking on an anonymous bangladeshi shrimping forum has any sort of effect on anything.

>> No.6932413

>>6932364
That's fair actually. I remember reading that MC Kids was something of a passion project. That being said, the old McDonald's designs, the specific advertisements people were reminiscing over, were not passion projects. They were soulless.

>> No.6932414

>>6932408
And you're even worse than them because you come here to complain.
>guys! stop reminiscing about better times! accept today's shit! forget the past!

>> No.6932415

>>6932408
Everything has an effect on everything, it's all part of the cosmic unconsciousness.

>> No.6932418

>>6932415
Seek help

>> No.6932419

>>6932414
You're a fool. All you're doing is feeling bad about yourself, and your era, with likeminded losers who feel just as bad. I'd like to remind everyone this is the board for retro video games, and for general misanthropy and dissatisfaction with life you'd be better served in r9k or pol.

>> No.6932420

>>6932381
Even though that's bait you're replying to, you could reply it to a lot of religious art produced during the Counter-Reformation.

>> No.6932421

>>6930483
80s was where it's at. All the cool toys, the NES came in at the end best cartoons.

>> No.6932426

>>6932419
You're here to police anyone that doesn't happily accept today's mediocrity. You're a weird corporate apologist.

>> No.6932429

>>6932420
*apply, not reply. Time for sleep.

>> No.6932430

>>6932426
I'm on this board to discuss retro video games. Why shouldn't I come into this clearly offtopic thread and shit on you? You asked for it. If you want to a board full of losers who will swarm anyone who disagrees with you, again, try r8k or pol.

>> No.6932436

>>6932430
Retro video games also include 90s youth culture.
You're here to cope about the fact you weren't alive back then (and yes, I know you will claim you were, but I won't believe you), and to police anyone who doesn't want to accept today's mediocre culture.

>> No.6932440

>>6932436
Really? Because by the look of this thread the biggest topic of discussion is whether McDonald's looked better in the 90s. You think this is my first day on 4chan? You think I don't know what stealth offtopic threads look like? I know this is normal on /v/ but we on /vr/ actually like our board.

I really think you'd be better served on another board. Everyone would win. You'd get what you want, and this board would be better for it.

>> No.6932446

>>6932440
>but we on /vr/ actually like our board
Not anymore we don't

>> No.6932448

>>6932440
This is one of the more interesting threads in the last couple weeks. Better than the million Speccy and Mario 64 bait threads at least.

>> No.6932449

>>6932440
And yet, you're here still policing people about how they have to accept today's mediocrity. You were still involved in this off topic discussion, so you're as guilty as anyone else.
But nah it's still on topic. Mc Donald's and retro games? More likely than you think:
>>6932367

>> No.6932453

>>6932448
The fact that you think this thread is a sterling example of this board, or that you defend it by saying "at least it's better than speccy flooding" is shameful. It's nostalgiafagging. The same shit I saw 10 years ago. The same shit I'll see 10 years from now. This website is stuffed with losers who just want to escape, so ANYthing is better than here and now. It's just fucking tiresome.

>> No.6932454

>>6932440
This board is as good as dead sadly. Just stick to the threads that you enjoy or embrace the shitposting.

>> No.6932460

>>6932453
Get a grip faggot, people are allowed to have memories and have critical thinking on how some things were ruined by corporations and political agendas.
>n-no! you're just an old man yelling at a cloud! the present is fine!
Cry more.

>> No.6932465

>>6932453
>The same shit I saw 10 years ago. The same shit I'll see 10 years from now.
I hope we will, it's always interesting to hear people reminisce about their past and give a perspective on the current state of things, even if they act bitter about it. I'll be fascinated to see what games are held up as soulful by zoomers someday.

>> No.6932468

>>6932460
>Ronald McDonald is gone because of leftists

>> No.6932469

>>6932460
Well then I'll leave you to your circlejerk. Have fun being miserable, I guess

>> No.6932474

>>6932468
political agendas in general, not just leftists. and it's not just about mc donald's.
>>6932469
ok bye.

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6932475

>>6932468
Probably not, but I doubt they'd bring back Officer Big Mac in today's climate.

>> No.6932483

>>6932474
This thread has mostly been about McDonald's.

>> No.6932485

>>6932483
And I'm loving it

>> No.6932498
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6932498

>>6932475
Can The Speccy kill The Grimace?

>> No.6934129

>>6932453
>It's nostalgiafagging. The same shit I saw 10 years ago. The same shit I'll see 10 years from now. This website is stuffed with losers who just want to escape, so ANYthing is better than here and now. It's just fucking tiresome.
Then why are you here? Literally what are you doing bitching about nostalgiafagging on the RETRO GAME BOARD?

>> No.6934140

>>6931148
...Or because video games and culture have literally gotten worse. Being "ignorant" of LGBT matters back in the 80s and 90s doesn't change a thing about the woke brigade nonsense gamers today are subjected to by companies like Naughty Dog. If Anon thinks gaming in his childhood was better due to less political correctness being forced in some ways, that's a valid opinion you'll just have to cope with.

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6934438

>>6930483
Anyone who says the world wasnt more fun in the 90s is either in denial or is contrarian. Almost everything is 100x more lame and watered down now. The soulless meme is real. Utilitarianism has won.

>> No.6934441
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6934441

>>6934438
Graphic design, architecture, animation, food, it's all declined.

>> No.6934446

>>6934441
That Taco Bell interior takes me back (no, really). I miss the way fast food joints used to look.

>> No.6934460

PHYSICAL MEDIA

OUTDOORS/SUNLIGHT

SOCIAL INTERACTION

LOTS OF COLOURS

>> No.6934462

>>6931926
Btfo tranny

>> No.6934483

>>6934446
Me too dude, me too. I used to always race to get the big round corner booth at mcdonalds and loved the glass bricks and neon lights in burger king. Got my first pokemon plush at kfc. They used to have parfaits. It felt like such a big event as a kid.

>> No.6934510

>>6934140
A handful of companies occasionally adding gay characters to their games isn't ruining anything but your personal sense of security.

The real problems are inflated budgets, extremely long dev cycles, charging the customer at every possible opportunity, bigger companies buying up every smaller company, and sacrificing gameplay for spectacle.

>> No.6934513

>>6934510
>A handful of companies occasionally adding gay characters to their games isn't ruining anything but your personal sense of security.
Do the words Last of Us Part 2 mean anything to you, or have you been living under a rock the past 6 months?

>> No.6934515

>>6934513
>Do the words Last of Us Part 2 mean anything to you
Not really. The first game didn't interest me at all so I ignored it. The 2nd one adding a trans or gay character or whatever means nothing to me

>> No.6934521

>>6934513
this is /vr/, we don't obsessively follow redditor gamer outrages du jour here
that said, if TLOU2 sucked it's probably because the gameplay was bad not because there's a gay character. right wingers are obsessed

>> No.6934557

>go to school in the 90s
>learn basic life skills
>walk home with friends
>ask mom for a couple of bucks
>meet up with friends and walk to the local arcade while talking about dumb kid stuff
>convert said bucks into quarters
>have a blast playing with friends
>walk home with friends and talk about dumb kid stuff
vs
>go to school in the 2010s
>learn that being white is problematic and that boys can have periods too
>walk home alone
>ask mom for her credit card so you can donate to your favorite streamer
>feel good when the streamer reads your name
>sit in the dark playing phone games

The environment that kids are growing up in today in the age of woke capitalism is horrifying.

>> No.6934563

>>6934515
...On top of making the female character the first game a lesbian for woke points they made the villain of the game a crazed butch lady who literally beats the protagonist from the first game to death because she hates men. Then the game tries to make you feel empathetic for her because beating people to death is okay as long as you're a strong womyn fighting agains muh patriarchy. They basically took whatever goodwill they earned from the first game's story and ruined it with SJW politics. I know hardcore lefties who even think the story was shit and that they should've left their "woke" shit out of it.
>>6934521
>this is /vr/, we don't obsessively follow redditor gamer outrages du jour here
As you shouldn't, because it's fucking hilarious that you equate right wingers with reddit of all places. I don't know what soi sipping shithole you crawled out of, but please go back.

>> No.6934575

>>6934557
You were learning whites were problematic and shouldnt breed in the 90s too friend.

>> No.6934578

>>6934557
Anon, you only went to school during one of those time periods. So you are either too young to be posting here or talking out of your ass about what goes on.

>> No.6934586

Damn, and here I thought we'd been invaded by /v/. But if the last couple of posts are anything to go by, it turns out allowing Gen 6 discussion lured actual unironic Redditors here instead (I'll take /v/ kiddies over SJWs any day). Only a matter of time now before they start sperging about the bad orange man.

God I miss when the mod team gave a shit about this board.

>> No.6934594

>>6934563
Again, you're talking about a single detail bloated game having a message it wants to tell. Big fucking whoop. I do not give a single shit about the story.
The other issues I brought up are industry wide. And if anything, the lack of variety they perpetuate only fuels your feelings that "woke shit" is taking over the industry, simply because we have fewer games now.

>> No.6934606

>>6934586
The only political dogma I see being shoved in here is "I didn't notice the political landscape of my childhood, and now that it's shifted I perceive a loss of greater social innocence"

>> No.6934624

>>6934575
Not where I grew up. Race didn't enter the curriculum for me until late high school, and that was only in the context of the civil war.
>>6934578
>no kids
>no nieces/nephews
Sounds like a lonely life, anon.

>> No.6934629

>>6931546
We absolutely could and did. In fact, online was one of the first places to joke about and call bullshit on the whole phenomenon. Go fiddle-fuck a DS.

>> No.6934630

>>6934624
Well that explains a great deal

>> No.6934639

late 2000s childhood holds up
>club penguin is the best online experience
>wii has the definitive platformers and sports games
>ds has amazing games of all genres
>flash games and newgrounds' peak
>playing games online with friends even if you live far away

>> No.6934652

>>6932261
What's it called when you like a game and hate everyone that plays it? 'cause I'm pretty sure that's exactly how I feel about Minecraft. Notch made millions and millions off of that and I still feel bad for how he left it all.

>> No.6934662

>>6932315
If the Nazi's won WWII, Gunpei Yokoi would've lived.

>> No.6934687

>>6934652
>What's it called when you like a game and hate everyone that plays it?
Irrational, as that would obviously include you, and the countless others who share the same distaste you do for the public facing fandom of any given thing.

>> No.6934704

>>6934662
We could of got the virtual boy 2

>> No.6934727

>>6930496
>This board is for 30+
27+ makes more sense since 1993'ers would have been Kindergartners playing 5th gen happily.

>> No.6934731

>>6930598
>I used to wish I grew up as a child in the 70s
For what possible reason?

>> No.6934745

>>6934731
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzBuWOZGcuc

>> No.6934750

>>6930732
>The bad guys won WW2
There were no good guys in that war.

>> No.6934757

>>6934750
America

>> No.6934770

>>6934757
>disastrous public fund management
>ended up cucked by the reds just to team up against big baddie Adolf
>still have to live with the guilt of being the only country in the whole world to have dropped nukes over civilians. Twice.
>direct compliance on the creation of the fascist state of Israel
I wouldn't call Americans "bad guys", but stupid for sure. You could have avoided so much drama if you stayed the fuck away from Europe's own fuckery.

>> No.6934775

>>6930483
I thought we were past that "i wuz born in the wrong generation" meme

>> No.6934778

>>6934775
We are, and we went full circle. The wrong generation kids were right all along.

>> No.6934782

>>6934778
Well, I guess this is /vr/ after all. Nonetheless it's kind of annoying.

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>>6931137
>>6931150
>*beep boop bbbbbeeeeeppp*

>> No.6934801

>>6931202
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc3jwEPJyW8
Comfy but looks like outdated games not worth playing today. The spirit here is lovely though.

>> No.6934807

>>6934775
That sentiment doesn't appear to have been mainstream at all throughout modern history, and then suddenly the 2000s babies start growing up and it's everywhere. Depression and suicide are on the rise, racial conflict is worse than it was in the 'civil rights era', and social cohesion has evaporated.

Does it really surprise you that some kid growing up today looks back at what we had in the totally rad 90s and wishes they were living it?

>> No.6934816

>>6934807
>Does it really surprise you that some kid growing up today looks back at what we had in the totally rad 90s and wishes they were living it?
No, and I don't have anything against that. What I have against with is being obnouxious about it.

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6934820

>>6930496
Based. Daily reminder that the 6th gen isn't /vr/ and that speccy troll threads or waifufaggotry has more of a place on this board than 6th gen posts.

>> No.6934823

>>6934816
I don't see how intelligent Millennials and intelligent zoomers would have any feeling of kinship or even anything to say in praise of their fellows' qualities. There's very little to be proud of.
I don't see Gen Xers hating themselves as much, at least considering their circumstances.

>> No.6934827

>>6934823
Gen Xers don't really do much of anything, to be fair

>> No.6934832

>>6934816
I think you're being too negative. Every time I see a post like that on some Sublime or Offspring video, it makes me grateful that I had the childhood I did.

>> No.6934835

>>6934820
Why are you calling them troll threads? They are about a retro platform and its history. Just because they are made in higher volume doesn't make them troll threads, especially when I regularly see posters make an effort to craft an OP that's got potential for discussion.
As for waifufaggotry, it's retarded and should be moved to /e/. 6th gen games are retro enough (Dreamcast certainly was) to discuss and this place had gotten stale.

>> No.6934838

>>6934835
All that effort to play stupid

>> No.6934842

>>6934835
Dreamcast was the last retro console. The rest of the 6th gen onwards should have gotten their own board.

>> No.6934845

>>6932315
No, they would've had proper jungle gyms that facilitated actual exercise instead of tubes and ball pits filled with shit and used band aids.

>> No.6934852

>>6934842
There's something to be said about a new board being apt and how rare 5th gen and earlier exclusive forums are, but at the same time the year 2000 is a terribly arbitrary dividing line, and it's been longer since the release of Playstation 2 now than Playstation had been out since the board was made.
The nature of gaming wasn't drastically different enough between 5th and 6th gen to justify recognizing a break---I'd argue there's continuity there, in that the ideas which had been introduced in 5th gen were finally realized to fruition in the way they were originally envisioned, which led to higher quality games. They're of the same ilk even though 6th gen was generally more refined.

>> No.6934856

>>6934842
Because more often than not it's burgers spamming norf fc memes and bongs being salty. I still like those threads, nothing like a bit of E-banter. As an American I do actually like the Spectrum, it has some real gems, and acknowledge its' place in gaming history.

>>6934842
This guy gets it. /v2k/ should be a thing, overall gaming and the culture surrounding it made such major changes with the 6th gen that they should have their own board.

>> No.6934857

>>6934845
>If the Nazis won WWII there would be no ball pits
Thank God America won the war

>> No.6934862

>>6931250
>>6931262
But in what proportions? Hunh smart-alecks? Gotcha.

>> No.6934870

>>6934856
>overall gaming and the culture surrounding it made such major changes with the 6th gen
I disagree. I think 7th gen was where this occurred and that for that reason that gen onward should never be considered "retro" in any other sense other than "decades old" years from now.

>> No.6934873

>>6930523
How old were you on 9/11?

>> No.6934886

>>6931423
All the controversy from stuff like Supersize Me, month old fries Youtube videos, and how nuggets are really made TV specials really damaged McDonald's public image. This seems to be an effort to hold onto the Millennial demographic by catering to them and just giving up on pursuing younger generations anymore, who grew up in this Sinclair-esque exposure of McDonald's.

>> No.6934892

>>6934852
>but at the same time the year 2000 is a terribly arbitrary dividing line,
When I first came into /vr/ I thought the same thing. I thought silly that two consoles that were released with only a year apart from each other had different treatment in /vr/. There was some discussion with the anons and then I decided to play some of the Dreamcast classics to see what was so different about it. And damn, it really is it's own thing. Not only the console has that more arcade-ish approach that was slowly discontinued by it's following consoles, but also an aesthetic and library of games resembling more the 5th gen than anything else.

>> No.6934893

>>6934862
It's subjective. Like all entertainment

>> No.6934895

>>6934873
I'm guessing 2 or 3. I was 12 when it happened and the shit was everywhere. News stations, school, internet discussion boards. The only way you escaped it was unplugging.

>> No.6934903

>>6934892
I think a lot of that can be attributed to just how long the system was around. Early entries to the 6th generation where basically 5th generation games with more detail, but towards the end you started to get the more "cinematic" entries, and console shooters started their rise to industry dominance

>> No.6934904

>>6931462
>top: parents are plenty and have plenty of disposable income, and aren't worried eating there will negatively impact their children's health
>bottom: parents are getting rarer and rarer with fewer cash to burn and will be wary of McDonald's as a source of childhood nutrition
it's sociologically obvious when you think about it
Parents who eat there still (i.e. Mexicans) are just poor and it doesn't matter what bells and whistles you put on the experience.

>> No.6934908

>>6934903
I think if I could simplify the thing here is that the Dreamcast feels like an update of the 5th gen than the beginning of a whole new generation of consoles. If that makes any sense.

>> No.6934912

>>6934886
Yeah, that's what I figured too. They wanted to clean up their image after all that. Though it also seems influenced by the broader trend in how things look now, as seen in these images >>6934438 >>6934441.

>> No.6934915

>>6934903
>console shooters
as opposed to...?
>towards the end you started to get the more "cinematic" entries
already a thing since 5th gen

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>>6934870
That's actually arguable, I'm not going to lie that some major hardware/market/cultural changes occurred during the 7th generation, arguably more than the 6th vs the 5th.

>I think 7th gen was where this occurred and that for that reason that gen onward should never be considered "retro" in any other sense other than "decades old" years from now.

That's what we used to say about the 6th gen kek. Eventually in 5-10 years when even more shifts have occured, what's stopping them from adding the 7th gen to /vr/? I still think that /v2k/ and maybe /v7g/ would be a good solution that makes everyone happy. I just want my frens on 4chan to be happy, I love you people.

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>>6930483
Everything was better in the 90s. The economy was good, there was hope for the future.

>> No.6934918

>>6934915
>already a thing since 5th gen
Not him, but while it already was a thing on the 5th it was still on their early days. The keyword there is "more". The 6th gen was what really established the cinematic video game experience.

>> No.6934919

>>6932267
>Anyone praising the top is a child or forgot how fucking dirty and disgusting McDonalds used to be. You didn't even want to go inside one until they fixed their image
Maybe you just lived in a shit area. I never recalled the insides of McDonald's being disgusting when they still looked like this in the 2000s.

>> No.6934927

>>6934915
>as opposed to...?
PC shooters, which where already a popular thing long before they figured out dual analogue control

>> No.6934932

>>6934912
What makes McDonald's different is that it looked like it did since the 50s. Those other artifacts weren't as old nor generally iconic. Sure the minimalist trend influenced the redesign but to even go through a redesign indicates something went amiss.

>> No.6934936

>>6934916
Frankly every console generation has changes to the experience and quirks in the industry where you could draw a line and say it was a distinct enough change to separate them into broad pre and post categories

>> No.6934937

>>6934927
>PC shooters
platform isn't difference; and, again, console shooters already existed, pc ports or otherwise, before Dreamcast even released

>> No.6934938

>>6934936
Yes but there's this vague concept of "modern" that gets deployed when people want to start drawing lines in the sand. The thing is I don't think /vr/ posters really have a strong sense of it and mix it in a lot with their biases.

>> No.6934939

>>6934937
We're talking broad popularity.

The adoption of a viable control scheme and online for the convenience of consoles caused a dramatic shift in what games where being made at the time. I don't even consider it a good or bad thing, just how the industry moved at the time

>> No.6934943

>>6934938
And you are 100% correct

>> No.6934946

>>6934937
The difference is console shooters generally weren't taken seriously until Goldeneye/Perfect Dark, and didn't get big until 6th gen with things like Halo. After 6th gen, more and more FPSs started getting designed with consoles and controllers in mind.

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>>6934936
Definitely true, it's arguable that the biggest turning point is the 3rd generation as opposed to the 2nd generation.

He's my logic concerning the 6th generation, it's probably flawed but this is my reasoning:
>6th generation saw the solidification of the modern console market - Nintendo vs Xbox vs Playstation, which continues to this day (5th gen was Nintendo vs Sega vs Playstation, 4th was Nintendo vs Sega)
>Several franchises changed/died/were introduced. Fire Emblem came to the West, the Sonic vs Mario rivalry became more of a joke than anything, Pokemon hit its' stride, GTA became a household name, Halo and 'modern' FPS exploded in popularity)
>JRPGs became truly mainstream
>Hardware wise, there were no more CDs or cartridges (for consoles), it was all DVDs or those manlet discs Nintendo uses, Analog sticks became standard
>The death of arcades
>Online gaming becoming mainstream (well maybe this is more 7th gen, but as I remember there was A LOT more online gaming in the 6th gen than the 5th gen)
>Gaming in general becoming mainstream
>Emulators began to take off

Maybe I'm just a boomer but I feel as though while the difference between the 4th and 5th gen was bigger in terms of play style, the overall 'feel' of gaming and the culture surrounding it changed more between the 5th and 6th gen.

>> No.6935016

>>6934984
>Maybe I'm just a boomer but I feel as though while the difference between the 4th and 5th gen was bigger in terms of play style, the overall 'feel' of gaming and the culture surrounding it changed more between the 5th and 6th gen
Agree 100% there.

>> No.6935025

>>6934984
Based Mosley poster

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>>6935016
Thank you anon, it's good to know I'm not alone.

>>6935025
Cheers mate

>> No.6935117

>>6934842
I think the issue is that people think "retro" means "old" when people were calling 16bit games "retro" even in the late PS1/early PS2 era.
I think we need a new categorisation, now gaming has pretty much been stagnant for a long time in terms of things like control systems and aesthetics. Think about it in terms of language:
16bit and earlier: Old English
CD systems, 32bit, 3D viable: Middle English
PS2 onwards: Modern English

>> No.6935132

>>6934936
True, but compare GTA2 to GTA3, then GTA3 to GTA4, then GTA4 to GTA6. There's a massive break in the change from GTA2 to GTA3 which just was not matched by later iterations.

>> No.6935147

>>6935132
ok, but that's one game series.
You could just as easily point to something like Kirby and say "nothing's really changed"

>> No.6935164

>>6935147
Then compare FF9 to FF10. Then FF6 to FF7.
This is why I propose a more "three stage" development. >>6935117

>> No.6935168

>>6935117
>I think we need a new categorisation, now gaming has pretty much been stagnant for a long time in terms of things like control systems and aesthetics
We are stuck on the 6th gen formula to this very day. Only with better graphics..

>> No.6935171

The internet hadn't ruined everything yet.

>> No.6935174

>>6935147
The shifts in technology are smaller now compared to the massive technological advancements we saw in the 90s and early 2000s. Going from 2D to full 3D games alone was giant. Now new consoles aren't nearly as impressive or exciting, and I don't know what they could do to have another massive leap.

>> No.6935176

Why are threads with rhetorical questions even allowed? Seriously, it should be an insta delete.

>> No.6935182

>>6935174
Probably VR. But so far, there hasnt been much of a breakthrough.

>> No.6935201

>>6935182
I hope so, VR is already neat but it would be awesome if they perfect it someday.

>> No.6935203

>>6935174
But I think that the first 3D home consoles wasn't really an "age" itself, but rather the passing of an old one before the coming of the new one, so you saw a lot of teething pains, but also genres changing into things that were totally different to what came before it.

>> No.6935213

>>6935203
That's a good point, the transition period itself felt unique too. Lots of experimentation.

>> No.6935226

>>6935213
I think that's why there was already a tendency to call the 16bit, 2D, mostly cartridge based, consoles "retro" (or probably more likely, "old school" maybe even with a K) in that period. People knew that a change had come about and way of doing things was over, but weren't sure yet what the new one will be.

>> No.6935447

I miss text-file archives with sorts of interesting things. I had over 1GB of plain text Transformers fics before the hard drive died and took them with it, and they likely don't even exist online any more.

>> No.6935564
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>>6934984
>Several franchises changed/died/were introduced
>Hardware changed
>Gaming in general becoming "mainstream"
>using these as "unique points"
are you fucking serious
>Maybe I'm just a boomer
Yes, yes. That's all your gripes come down.

>> No.6935565

>>6935564
I disagree

>> No.6935573

>>6935168
>We are stuck on the 6th gen formula to this very day
Excuse me, but did you support motion-based gaming? If not, you have no right to complain about how controls have "stagnated". I swear the more I read these fucks the more I think you all just wish time stopped at the year 2000 and don't actually care about quality, only nostalgia.

>> No.6935574

>>6935564
Are you going to make an argument or just act like some twitter fag?

>> No.6935580

>>6935573
>I'll pick on one particular point rather than the larger idea to get into an argument over definitions

>> No.6935584

>>6935573
Well, the anon I replied talked about controls, but I'm setting my mind on a wider range. PS2 settled the standard for cinematic games and since then we haven't got much of a change in both storytelling and aesthetics.

>> No.6935587

>>6935574
If you can't see how pointing out those logical inconsistincies in standards is debunking the post's arguments by attacking its points, then you need to read more books or something.
I will spoonfeed you one though since you're implying to me you're too moronic to get it on your own:
>Several franchises changed/died/were introduced
LIKE LITERALLY EVERY FUCKING GENERATION??? And he's using that to say that 6th gen is somehow a huge break away from retro gaming. Can you see how vacuous this is for the argument he was trying to make? I bet not, still.

>> No.6935589
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6935589

>>6935573
Come on now, the Wii? Come on, that little controller, that looked like a dildo. Aight, I ain't, I ain't trying to play my games with no dildo, aight? Maybe if the game is, like, WarioWare: Shove It Up Your Own Ass game.

>> No.6935591

>>6930483
Less corporativism
Less politics
Less media interventions
People going outside more

>> No.6935592

>>6935580
Like you did just now to that post?

>> No.6935597

>>6935587
Do you think the change from GTA2 to GTA3 was equal to that between GTA3 to GTA4? And then from GTA4 to GTA5?

>> No.6935598

>>6935584
>PS2 settled the standard for cinematic games
*PS1
>and since then we haven't got much of a change in both storytelling
But that's fucking wrong. Look at KOTOR for example.
>and aesthetics
What the hell is this supposed to refer to?

>> No.6935604

>>6935592
OK, so if "motion controls" are such a massive factor, then where does the EyeToy fit in?

>> No.6935605

>>6935589
PS Move existed and looked like an actual dildo or vibrator, smartass.

>> No.6935608

>>6935598
>*PS1
Besides MGS1 name another major cinematic game.

>> No.6935609

>>6935608
Xenogears

>> No.6935618

>>6935609
The game where the second disc was a visual novel?

>> No.6935620

>>6935597
Do you think the change from Super Mario Bros. 3 to Super Mario 64 was equal to that between Super Mario 64 to Super Mario Sunshine?

Again, all you anti-6th-gen-is-retro fags can do is dish out half-thought-out hypocritical "arguments" that crumble underneath the slightest bit of scrutiny your biases prevent you from indulging in.

>> No.6935621

>>6935598
>PS1
Besides MGS there isn't really that much that could equal the PS2 era of cinematic games.
>kotor
What's that supposed to mean?

>> No.6935627

>>6935618
Here's your opportunity now to play semantics. Are you going to stoop to it?

>> No.6935628

>>6935620
Yes, which is why I'm talking about the requirement for a three-stage definition, taking into account that games like Mario 64 are a transitory stage from one "age" to the next.

>> No.6935629

>>6935621
>What's that supposed to mean?
The Bioware formula of storytelling that found itself in KOTOR, Neverwinter Nights 2, and Mass Effect that's a hybrid between realistic cutscenes and gamey player choice.

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6935630

>>6935605
It really did

>> No.6935632

>>6935627
Is Tsukihimi a cinematic game?
Hell, you should have said Heart of Darkness.

>> No.6935635

>>6935628
>Yes, which is why I'm talking about the requirement for a three-stage definition
You mean arbitrary bullshit.
>taking into account that games like Mario 64 are a transitory stage from one "age" to the next
And somehow under that point of view, Mario Sunshine isn't equally "transitory" to, for example, Galaxy.

>> No.6935638

>>6935629
>The Bioware formula of storytelling that found itself in KOTOR, Neverwinter Nights 2, and Mass Effect that's a hybrid between realistic cutscenes and gamey player choice
So... not much of a change? KOTOR and Mass Effect feel pretty much of the same. Not to mention Baldur's Gate and Dragon Age.

>> No.6935642

>>6935635
>You mean arbitrary bullshit.
Hardly. No one would consider Middle English and Old English to be equally "Retro English".

>> No.6935643

>>6935587
>i cherrypick the arguments i wanna debunk
>you are moron
lel

>> No.6935645

>>6935635
Mario 64 is a bigger leap from the previous games than Mario Galaxy was

>> No.6935647

>>6935638
Kotor and me are so close kotor 2 foreshadows some all consuming evil from outside the galaxy even

>> No.6935654

>>6935587
Funny how you don't mention the next part of the first argument that highlights what's the point he is making. While on retro consoles the standard became arcade and platform franchises, on modern gaming those were replaced by sandbox and shooter ones. Nowadays, franchises die and are replaced by others of the same genre.

>> No.6935665

>>6935645
Yes, but you wouldn't say Mario 64 isn't retro just because it's not 3D.

>> No.6935672

>>6935654
>While on retro consoles the standard became arcade and platform franchises, on modern gaming those were replaced by sandbox and shooter ones.
You're really going to have to rephrase this because I'm trying to identify an intelligible point being made here that's relevant to the discussion and I'm just not finding it.

>> No.6935675

>>6935665
Yeah, I'd definitely call it retro now even though it's 3D.

>> No.6935679

>>6935642
>No one would consider Middle English and Old English to be equally "Retro English".
Explain, because this is such a ridiculous and deranged analogy I really don't even want to begin to try to make sense of it.

>> No.6935682

>>6935675
For what reason? Because it had better exclude Sunshine from consideration in a way that isn't arbitrary. That's the argument at stake here.

>> No.6935686

>>6935682
I'm a different anon, wasn't really following that argument.

>> No.6935694

>>6935672
What I'm trying to say is that there was a bigger change on the market than compared to the other generations when talking of franchises dying.

>> No.6935708

>>6935638
>So... not much of a change?
The "cinematic" you all are referring to is FMV cutscenes, which were a change from previous "cutscenes" that were all in-engine 2D sprites moving around with a textbox underneath, which itself was a change from there being no textboxes, which itself was a change of there being virtually no non-gaming related scripting period (Pac-Man and earlier). It was introduced in PS1.

Yet this style of storytelling wasn't enough to form a decisive break for you between retro and not. Because you all have now committed to the logic of "it's not retro if things stayed the same from one generation to the next". And because of that, 5th gen is the last retro generation because FMV wasn't changed in 6th gen.

But I just told you it was---you got detailed interactive storytelling, on top of the FMV. It was done first in KOTOR, and then succeeded with David Cage games all the way up to Detroit Become Human.

So all this to say, you all really need to get a coherent argument together about what is and isn't retro, because this scattered nonsense you have right now is a mess to engage with.

>> No.6935714

>>6935679
Old English is a fundamentally different language.
Middle English is a transitory state between that and Modern English.
If it's just based on "old=retro" then what does it mean for Cave Story, which is an explicitly retro inspired game, but it itself is now retro...So how can it be "retro inspired"?
The point is that "old=retro" doesn't give us the language needed to discuss eras of gaming. I remember the 16bit era already being called "old school games" back in the late 90s and early 00s, meaning that Chrono Trigger was classed as retro/old school when it was about 5 years old.

>> No.6935715

>>6935694
>there was a bigger change on the market than compared to the other generations when talking of franchises dying
And how are you going to prove this assertion?

>> No.6935720

>>6935686
>I'm a different anon
I know. But can you see where I'm coming from?

>> No.6935732

>>6935720
Yeah, I guess so. It's hard to come up with a consistent definition for retro that would satisfy everybody.

>> No.6935743

>>6935708
That made my head spin

>> No.6935760

>>6935732
Then maybe the idea of a unit of measurement in terms of time passed isn't fit for purpose and we need another more suitable set of words?

>> No.6935772

>>6935714
>Old English is a fundamentally different language
I don't accept this proposition.
>Middle English is a transitory state between that and Modern English
I accept.
>If it's just based on "old=retro" then what does it mean for Cave Story, which is an explicitly retro inspired game, but it itself is now retro...So how can it be "retro inspired"?
The same way Elder Scrolls was inspired by Wizardry. You're talking about an indie developer choosing not to follow the trends of their day and instead returning to an earlier standard of gaming, which has happened all throughout gaming history after there were some standards to deviate from.
>The point is that "old=retro" doesn't give us the language needed to discuss eras of gaming.
I agree.

That's my thoughts on your post. Now, as far as what your post was meant to accomplish, I remain unconvinced. Because even in the early 1600s Modern English itself was still in a period of transition where vocabulary and semantics and spelling and even grammar to some extent still hadn't calcified into what they are now.

The reason why it's a ridiculous and deranged analogy and the same for talking about a "3-stage model" is that we STILL don't have anti-6th genners providing a coherent and well-reasoned rationale for what explicitly designates 6th gen as non-retro. As far as this debate is concerned, 6th gen could be late Middle English, while its opponents have already taken for granted it being early Modern English.

>> No.6935773

We really need an agreement of what is retro and what's not. Most discussions on this thread aren't going anywhere because of that.

>> No.6935781

>>6935715
I was going to say comparing the libraries, but eh.

>> No.6935787

>>6935732
>that would satisfy everybody
Well this debate now pretty much comes down to "is 6th gen allowed or not?" and very few participants have the intellectual integrity required to accept an argument that runs contrary to their side.

>> No.6935794

>>6935781
It could be done, but as you recognize it's utterly impractical.

>> No.6935804

>>6935794
Yeah, shit's big. Let's leave that in the "subjective" matter. I agree with the other two arguments though, they were kind of silly.

>> No.6935809

>>6935772
>I don't accept this proposition.
Then I guess centuries of linguists didn't have your keen insight. Please tell me how similar this is to modern English:
>Hwæt. We Gardena in geardagum,
>þeodcyninga, þrym gefrunon,
>hu ða æþelingas ellen fremedon.
>The same way Elder Scrolls was inspired by Wizardry.
So is Arena a "retro inspired" game? I don't think anyone would seriously hold that position.
>we STILL don't have anti-6th genners providing a coherent and well-reasoned rationale for what explicitly designates 6th gen as non-retro
Of course not if the definition of retro is "older than 15 years," but then you can ask "why not 10?" "Why not twenty"? Is a thirty year old game 2xRetro? the issue with that definition is that it turns it into nothing more than a unit of measurement. If Crysis is retro, how can you ever say there's any other retro game with graphics even half as good? If Crysis rates 10/10 in graphics, then what is SMB? 2/10? It doesn't even have three dimensions, or shadows!

>> No.6935813

>>6935787
Who is in the wrong this time?

>> No.6935841

>>6935809
>Hwæt. We Gardena in geardagum
>Eh wot / What now! [interjection employing "what" which calls attention to the subject to be elaborated on]
'We' and 'in' remain unchanged in usage
Gardena here is just a demonym formed from 'garden' or its cognate.
This is still, fundamentally, English, but antiquated to such an extent that big differences exist.
>So is Arena a "retro inspired" game?
Yes.
>I don't think anyone would seriously hold that position.
And perhaps they shouldn't. Because in many peoples' minds, "retro" means 2D and pixellated, which would disqualify 5th gen. And that's silly.
>If Crysis is retro
I wouldn't say Crysis is retro, at least not at this point (by that I mean as far as arguments I'm aware of, not time passed).

>> No.6935849

>>6935813
Whoever isn't willing to put effort into arguing for their side and doesn't acknowledge when conclusions are reached. Doesn't matter whether you're pro- or anti-6th gen, as long as you have arguments that actually hold up.

>> No.6935872

>>6935849
What makes the 6th generation of consoles "more retro" than the 7th generation since we're about to enter the 9th?
This is my problem with the "it's just time" position. Its basically just a handwave of any effort to define anything.
> Because in many peoples' minds, "retro" means 2D and pixellated, which would disqualify 5th gen. And that's silly.
Then maybe "retro" isn't a good word and we need another set of words? This is all I'm trying to get across, and I've dancing from comparison to comparison and everyone's playing dumb to the idea that you can define anything at all.
I'm not saying I'm right on the nature of the definitions, I'm saying that we need to adopt a different way of defining it entirely.

>> No.6935882

>>6935872
How can one categorize how a game is retro or not? It really would be difficult to find a common denominator

>> No.6935887

>>6935882
Then maybe "retro" isn't a suitable word? And if it just means "older than 15 years" then its basically just a unit of measurement.

>> No.6935890

>>6935887
Then what's the point of this board? Change retro for another word and we have the same issue

>> No.6935891

>>6935890
Then maybe we need another metric besides "older than a specific time"?

>> No.6935895

>>6935891
The way I see it is that there is no way out. Gatekeeping into 1999 like it was before was better. But now that's gone. I guess 6th gen is here to stay.

>> No.6935898

>>6935872
>What makes the 6th generation of consoles "more retro" than the 7th generation since we're about to enter the 9th?
The tactic I'm favoring at the moment is to show how 6th generation is a continuation of what was already present in 5th generation; if this is true, then it blurs the line between 5th and 6th generation, at least as far as the gaming elements go, which forces detractors to try and identify relatively arbitrary points of distinction like "online" or "DLC" or "primitive graphics" / "polygon count".
Maybe there isn't a huge difference between 6th and 7th gen. Maybe there isn't a huge difference between 6th and 5th gen. We already know there *was* a HUGE difference between 5th and 4th gen; yet 5th gen is "retro".
>This is my problem with the "it's just time" position. Its basically just a handwave of any effort to define anything.
And it shouldn't be used as just that, but nor should it necessarily be dismissed as a significant element.
I am in favor of not making the time argument the focal point, because I do not consider 7th gen to be "retro" and don't think it ever should be. I believe 7th gen did constitute enough of a break from the gaming past that 6th gen did not.
>Then maybe "retro" isn't a good word and we need another set of words?
Perhaps indeed. Or maybe new concepts which will be employed in the definition of "retro".
For example, "scale": that retro is necessarily small scale (due to hardware limitations) while non-retro is typically large-scale---but that falls apart as soon as you remember Daggerfall.
And we would go on and on discovering that a lot of the elements we assumed were relevant actually aren't. It would be time-consuming, but it must be done.
>I'm saying that we need to adopt a different way of defining it entirely.
I can agree to that. And I hope going forward the debate progresses along those lines, because we're currently not getting any closer to the truth.

>> No.6935914
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6935914

>>6935564
Luv Max Payne

>> No.6935918

>>6935589
Remember when spics couldn't afford video games? Those were the days.

>> No.6935931

>>6935895
All this taught me is that even if things like this are arbitrary once they're accepted you can't just say "oh by the way this word now means something else tee hee."
>>6935898
This is why I talk about 16bit games being classed as "old school" even in the PS1 days. It was clear in those days that "something" had changed even if they couldn't say what, and it was massive. If "old school" were synomynous with "retro" I wouldn't consider the PS1 to be "retro" (i.e. old school).

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>>6930523
Every generation has its pros and cons. You just choose to ignore the cons,

>> No.6935940

>>6935935
Yeah, but "twitter and tiktok" isn't really much a pro to balance the cons.

>> No.6935948

>>6930483
>>6930483
>>6930483

Because you were younger and less jaded about the horrors of reality.

>> No.6935953

>>6935931
I give up. Retro is a concept with no meaning now. I'll come back when they change the rules back to 1999 limit or until they find a better concept for the word.

>> No.6935960

>>6935953
"Retro" never really had any meaning (kind of my point), and was always marketing jargon. (Not to say the same doesn't apply to "old school" but you get my point.)

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>>6935953
Please don't leave us anon, people like you who know that gen 6 isn't retro are the only thing keeping this board alive.

>> No.6935973

I feel bad for anyone younger than me desu (i'm 29) I think the 90's was an amazing time to be a kid and I even think the 2000s was a good era to be a teenager in. The thing is, there's always a tradeoff. My parents aren't college graduates and worked basic desk jobs for the government. In 1995 my mom was 29 - they were on their 2nd house and had 2 kids. There is just no fucking way anyone under 30 today is buying a house and having 2 kids unless they committed every waking moment of their life to making money, had rich parents, lived in wyoming, etc. The path ahead for people in their late 20's now if you don't already have a family, own anything, etc is so bleak that I'd much rather have had less good video games as a kid and have been born in the late 60's or something

>> No.6935974

>>6935971
Ok, you convinced me

>> No.6935993
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>>6935974
Remember Anon, be the change you want to be in this world. If your favorite board is going to shit, do your part to make it less shit.

>> No.6936029

>>6935993
In Mosley poster we trust

>> No.6936042

>>6935918
>Remember when spics couldn't afford video games?
You know well that doesn't mean they didn't play them.

>> No.6936056

>>6935973
>I think the 90's was an amazing time to be a kid and I even think the 2000s was a good era to be a teenager in
I honestly feel that even the early 2010s were a decent time to be a young adult in. Yeah, the recession began a couple of years ago, but I feel like the culture which had settled in during the second half of the 2000s pretty much either reached its peak from 2010 to 2013 or it evolved into something nevertheless rather inspiring. I feel like it was the youth's last hurrah before everything got derailed by the Hyperpolitical Turn of 2014.

>> No.6936057

>>6935447
Are there any good websites like that now? I want to basically reduce my web browsing to a wget script that I run every so often to get the updates, but every site seems so bloated and unfriendly to such a thing (compared to ftp servers).

>> No.6936061

>>6936056
>>6935973
You've started down the Mark Fisher rabbit hole.

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>>6935973
>>6936056
Look at this Retro Gaming inspired movie, Scott Pilgrim, and try and tell me it isn't oozing with a soul that we've now lost. You can see it even in Brie herself between then and now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtrmWnFAHYE

>> No.6936072

>>6936057
>Are there any good websites like that now?
literally http://textfiles.com/, in addition to http://wiby.me/

>> No.6936082

>>6936072
Already downloaded all of textfiles.com ages ago, as well as web.textfiles.com, and I do know about wiby but it seems to always give me the kinds of pages people only visit ironically.

>> No.6936116

>>6936062
>Scott Pilgrim

Ruined an entire generation of women. Also I've met Michael Cera before, he's a nice guy.

>> No.6936182

>>6934441
That Disney store one can't be fucking real, right? It looks like a Home Shopping Network set.

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wonder if this one still exists

>> No.6936430

>>6934895
>>6934873
13. It was only everywhere on the internet if you went looking for it, Anons. I can't help it that even back then, you all dialed in to waste time loading websites that just made you upset. That's on you.

>> No.6936454
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>>6931450

>> No.6936464

>>6936378
Whoa cool, was this in Roswell? Man what I wouldn't give for a time machine and a better excuse to fly to NM so I could back to 1993 and eat there.

>> No.6936468

>>6936056
Nah, 2010 was basically The Last Hurrah of the West. We don't make anything anymore, dude: our nations have become dangerously complacent, co-dependent on hostile foreign powers, and culturally self-destructive. And 2010 was absolutely the last year I can recall that you could jack-in to the internet and ignore all that shit for hours at a time.

>> No.6936474

>>6936468
>And 2010 was absolutely the last year I can recall that you could jack-in to the internet and ignore all that shit for hours at a time.
I think that's because post-Myspace social media was still kind of young then. It's become a cliche to say it at this point, but Facebook and Twitter really did change the world.

>> No.6936476

>>6934770
>>still have to live with the guilt of being the only country in the whole world to have dropped nukes over civilians. Twice.
>implying we feel guilty about it

>You could have avoided so much drama if you stayed the fuck away from Europe's own fuckery
we tried to. then japan bombed pearl harbor. there went that idea.

>> No.6936528

>>6931450
>t. joyless boomer
die already you fuck

>> No.6936539

>>6936378
If it does, it's probably nasty as hell. Sun bleached, filthy creases, weathering and cracks that can't be replaced without expensive special ordering they'd never bother to do

>> No.6936546
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6936546

Because you were a kid then. I mean, Zoomers are now nostalgic for the LATE 00s-early 10s even though 90s lovers to say that was the era where everything went to shit.

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6936547

>>6936476
>we tried to
Not really. We were arming China, the USSR, and Britain at the time.
>Cash and carry
>Lend lease
>Flying tigers
>etc

Simply put, although Japan did ultimately attack us, FDR was doing everything he could to drag us into the war. Read 'The Dream' by Winston Churchill, or the accounts of those who fought in WWII and lived to see the 21st century. I mean the Axis were no saints and I don't feel bad for nuking the Japanese but it's obvious that NOBODY won WWII.

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>>6936464
Nah, this is the Roswell one. That one is somewhere in Cambridgeshire.

>> No.6936559
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>>6936548
The Cambridgeshire one was torn down in 2008 apparently. Too bad. Here's another angle one it.

>> No.6936560

>>6932453
>It's nostalgiafagging. The same shit I saw 10 years ago.
It's funny because the internet was already having tons of 90s nostalgia threads and saying how everything had gone to shit even in 2010. But now in 2020, even 2010 doesn't seem so bad. It's easy to feel that the slope of a cliff is higher when you're standing at the bottom.

>> No.6936567

>>6936547
>but it's obvious that NOBODY won WWII.
No, pretty sure the Allies won.

>> No.6936568

>>6936546
80s kids were doing this shit in the mid-late 2000s.

>> No.6936572

>>6936568
And zoomshits will do it in a few years. What's your point asshole.

>> No.6936574

>>6936572
Shouldn't be hard to figure that one out.

>> No.6936603

>>6934629
>online was one of the first places to joke about and call bullshit on the whole phenomenon.
Way to out yourself. Comedy about tragedy has been around a lot longer than you have, you daft cunt. People were circulating jokes about 9/11 the next day.
Just because you could spam some dumb edgy shit on the internet doesn't mean you avoided the post 9/11 change in the West hahaha the fuck am I reading

>> No.6936607
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>>6936567
I'm talking about in the long run. Yes, we won in theory. In the years following WWII, Eastern Europe traded one tyrannical oppressor for another, China fell to communism, France lost her colonies, and the sun set on the British Empire. America's new empire and superpower status would be instrumental in our current undoing. Although we were all right for the next few decades, the USSR's subversion (see Yuri Bezmenhov) and the clique that would gain control over the west in the postwar period would combine to lead our countries to their current status. Me and you are on the way to becoming persecuted minorities in the country that our ancestors built, helpless as our country slowly turns into Brazil. I guarantee you that if you could show America today to the GIs, they all would've dropped their weapons and hugged a German. I'm sorry if I'm coming off as a doomer faggot but think about it.

>> No.6936612

>>6936476
>we tried to

>> No.6936649
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6936649

>>6932226
The building being part of the brand is how brands used to have soul. McDonald's, Pizza Hut, and Long John Silver's, among others, all used to have unique architectural elements associated with their brands. But take the sign off of any of them built in the last 10 years, and it's impossible to tell what it was.

>> No.6936658
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>>6936649

>> No.6936663

>>6936548
>>6936559
So why the flying saucer gimmick? Is Cambridgeshire known for UFO sightings?

>> No.6936675

>>6936607
There's a lot of history between WWII, pinning everything bad that's happening today on WWII seems ignorant to me. Like you even mentioned the USSR's influence. If you're just talking about a fantasy alternate history scenario because the whole world would be different, that's one thing, but that's all speculation and likely would be worse. There's too many variables there to have a real answer. Also, you probably disagree with me on this, but I really wouldn't like the world to be more like Nazi Germany.

>> No.6936684
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6936684

>>6936663
https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/local-news/mcdonalds-spaceship-ufo-a1-alconbury-17535543
It was an old restaurant called Megatron beforehand and McDonalds took over the building.

>> No.6936707

>>6936607
You are a doomer shitstain and you losers don't even actually like videogames. I've never seen such a bunch of sad-sack mopes crying and jerking themselves off to how much they miss being a child with zero self-awareness.

>> No.6936725

>>6936675
I agree. Too many variables, it's impossible to tell how things would turn out. It would be interesting to see how imperialism would've played out without WWII crippling Europe's and Japan's empires. I do maintain that a lot of the messed up aspects of today's society have their roots in KGB ideological subversion, which wouldn't have happened had the Soviet Union ceased to exist in the 1940s. I'll admit I'm racist but I'm not genocide-every-nonwhite edgy /pol/tard racist, my bad if I came off as that (or as a drama queen in general) in my post. Thank you for your time.

>>6936707
>ad hominem

>> No.6936758

>>6936707
Don't bother trying to argue with them. They just want a platform

>> No.6936772

The only ones who won WWII were the zionists.
You, burgers, were merely their guardian dog. Still are.

>> No.6936778

>>6936772
Videogames

>> No.6936780

>>6936772
Cope loser

>> No.6936781
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6936781

>>6936778
yes

>> No.6936786

>>6936781
Hello? Based department? One order of extra based please.

>> No.6936787

>>6936780
The eternal Golem >:/

>> No.6936801

>>6936772
Kek. All of our countries are cucked and we're all ZOG cogs. Stop acting like you're any better than us eurofren.

>> No.6936803
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6936803

In the 90s there was a fuckload of Nintendo merch in general, then with the N64/Gamecube they totally stopped doing it.
Now its actually coming back with stuff like LABO, Mario Lego, that Nintendo amusement park and many other bits. Wouldnt surprise me if nintendo property movies were in the works again.

Really wonder why they ever stopped. I think their brand suffered from it.

>> No.6936805

>>6936781
>Sammy
>The budget Koei

>> No.6936807

>>6936725
>Thank you for your time
No problem. Frankly I'd say many of the messed up aspects of today have more to do with social media and how it's changed our culture than anything else. I'm happy with many of the cultural changes that came after WWII, and generally feel things have been getting better up until just recently. I'm not a racist, so equality for blacks was a plus in my book.

>> No.6936808

>>6936801
At least we tried to fight it, cuck.

>> No.6936815

>>6936808
post your country's name like a man or shut up

>> No.6936818

>>6936807
Wow... Did we just disagree heavily but still act civil with each other? Ha, anything can happen on 4chan. Have a nice day fren.

>>6936808
Guten tag.

>> No.6936821

>>6936807
Reminder that Nazi Germany wasn't against blacks. There were black soldiers from Africa that collaborated with the SS because they were also fighting against the zionists.

>> No.6936827

It's amazing how much of this thread has fuck all to do with videogames

>> No.6936832

>>6936818
You too fren.
>>6936821
Irrelevant to what I was saying, but you're still wrong. There weren't many blacks in Nazi Germany, but they weren't treated well and they certainly weren't considered equal.

>> No.6936834

>>6936827
Now that 6th gen was allowed, WWII became much more relevant.
Lots of WWII FPSs during 6th gen.

>> No.6936839

>>6936834
Then talk about the actual games

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6936846

>>6936834
Once again, I am vindicated. Keep /pol/ in /pol/, and /vr/ in /vr/. When you start allowing the 6th gen into /vr/, it opens the door for all sorts of non-/vr/ degeneracy.

>> No.6936847
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6936847

>>6936832
>There weren't many blacks in Nazi Germany
I said in Africa. Actual african soldiers were also fighting against zionists, and they worked together with SS soldiers, as equals.
>but they weren't treated well and they certainly weren't considered equal.
Are you sure? I think blacks were better treated in Germany than in America.

>> No.6936848

>>6936846
based mosleyposter

>> No.6936849

>>6936847
SHUT IT DOWNNNNNNN

>> No.6936853

Well, we devolved into a Qanon conspiracy thread so let's just throw it out

>> No.6936854

>>6936821
Do you have any proof of that?

>> No.6936856

>>6936847
You also said "Nazi Germany wasn't against blacks."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_black_people_in_Nazi_Germany#Rhineland_sterilization_program
>>6936849
>lol "SHUT IT DOWNNNNNNN"
God you people are retarded.

>> No.6936857

>>6936853
what conspiracy theory?

>> No.6936859

>>6936854
>>6936856
>Giving him exactly what he wants

>> No.6936860

>>6936853
>Qanon
>/pol/
>our dear friend Mr. Mosleyposter
>Classy, moderate racial realists like myself

All of them are completely different groups

>> No.6936863

>>6936859
Ignoring them doesn't seem to do any better. They'll keep spamming their bullshit no matter what you do.

>> No.6936865

>>6936863
So why make it even worse?

>> No.6936868

>>6936865
I just want to post stuff countering their points in case ignorant anons read their propaganda and take it for granted.

>> No.6936884

>>6936846
based mosley poster at it again good to see you around

>> No.6936887

>>6936863
>>6936865
>>6936868
>nooo, the natzies were the eeeviiiil!!! we americans were the good guys!! Our zion lords did nothing wrong!
>>6936854
Google black soldiers in waffen-SS.
There were also indians and many other kind of ethnic people who fought alongside the Waffen-SS.

>> No.6936891

>>6936887
Yeah. Nazis were evil.

>> No.6936893

>>6936868
With all due respect, people only fall for this shit if they want to fall for it. Responding just gives them platform to ignore the central point and nudge the subject in another direction. Just look at what's already been posted.

>> No.6936895

>>6936891
Not as much as the allies.

>> No.6936902

>>6936847
Is that photo real?

>> No.6936903

>>6936893
Fair enough

>> No.6936905

>>6936891
Nazis are also dead, and have been for over 70 years.
Meanwhile, Americans are still killing innocent people in the name of Israel.

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6936909

>>6936902
No, it's shopped. Like many things they post, it's bullshit.

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>>6936884
Based you at it again :)

>> No.6936913

>>6936902
Yes, google Jesse Owens.

>> No.6936917

>>6936905
>arabs
>people

>> No.6936921

>>6936917
>you
>a good human being
Shalom!

>> No.6936923

Is this the Council of Nicea for Retro Games or what?

>> No.6936924

>>6935973
>The path ahead for people in their late 20's now if you don't already have a family, own anything, etc is so bleak that I'd much rather have had less good video games as a kid and have been born in the late 60's or something
You sound like a boomer in the 70s who said it was all over and future generations would never have it as good as your personal childhood nostalgia in the 50s-60s.

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>>6936923

>> No.6936927

>>6936917
So basically it's only wrong when Germans from the 1940s kill people, but if Americans/Israeli do it in 2020 it's OK?

>> No.6936928

>>6936923
I hope not. I really hope this thread doesn't have any impact on the future.

>> No.6936934

>>6930483
So anyway, youth culture changes with every generation. It's pointless to think one was better or worse based on subjective measures

>> No.6936935

>>6932364
My God, it took me this many years to realize that Virgin Interactive was the same Virgin as Virgin Airlines.

>> No.6936938

>>6936934
>based on subjective measures
There are some hard numbers though, >>6934807 posted some truth.
You can research the numbers if you want.
We're in a unique point in history that is very different from all previous generations.

>> No.6936942

>>6936924
To be fair, it is harder as an adult these days when it was 30+ years ago. Wages haven't kept up with the cost of living, a lot of jobs got shipped overseas etc. Does anyone have that screencap where the Boomer was talking about how much his first job payed?

>> No.6936948
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6936948

>>6936935
The intro of M.C. Kids (published by Virgin) has a Virgin Airlines plane in it flying under the clouds.

>> No.6936950

>>6936938
Every generation is different from the one before it for a wide variety of reasons. But I won't conflate higher depression and suicide rates with a lack of bright red plastic roofs. I think that more has to do with heavier socioeconomic expectations and the crippled means to deal with it

>> No.6936958

>>6936950
Yeah I never talked about McDonalds or similar aesthetics (although it's true that in general, at least in the west, aesthetics became bleaker, more sterile, almost as if they're reflecting the socioeconomic hardships of modern times).
It's not just McD, see:
>>6934438
>>6934441

>> No.6936968

>>6936950
>a lack of bright red plastic roofs
It's not mcdonalds specifically, it's everything else. The far left take would probably be that it's a white people problem, where they're finally experiencing the world that everyone else has been living. There's probably some truth in that.

>> No.6936971

>>6936928
I just hope it gets to a healthy conclusion

>> No.6936972

>>6936958
>>6936968

The point is, it's not the aesthetics that are the problem. It's the inability of our social structures to deal with the problems that have been mounting for decades.

>> No.6936986

>>6936971
>>6936972
Based and welladjustedpilled

>> No.6936987

>>6936972
Yeah as I said, the aesthetics are just a curious coincidence, almost seems like it's a reflection of our modern culture, rather than the cause of it.
We didn't change because the aesthetics changed, the aesthetics changed, because we changed.

>> No.6937002

The other day I started searching for videos of my city in the 80s and 90s, and it was shocking how much.... more live it looked back then.
All the neon lights, all the soulful store fronts and letter posts.
You look at it now, and it's all a lot more somber, store fronts all look more uniform, less creative in their choice colors, letter fonts, even the material in which the fonts are made of.
Go to youtube and search the name of your city + 1994 (or whatever) and you might be shocked.

>> No.6937027

>>6936987
>it's a reflection of our modern culture
That has always been the case with aesthetics, yes.

>> No.6937141

>>6935168
6th gen gaming wasn't yet completely ruled by open world skinner boxes and online mass multiplayer so that isn't actually true. Most 6th gen gamings still had rule and level restraints that sets them apart from modern do whatever style games.

>> No.6937148

>>6937141
>6th gen gaming wasn't yet completely ruled by open world skinner boxes and online mass multiplayer so that isn't actually true
It was on its way there. Some of the best seeling games of 6th gen were GTA III (sandbox/open world) and Halo (FPS online multiplayer).
Vastly different from previous gens games, which were mostly ruled by platformers.

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6937160

>>6931876
>Mcdonald's
>Soul
Choose one and only one.

>> No.6937161

>>6937148
Halo's style of multiplayer and content packaging is almost completely alien to how multiplayer gaming is made now. You still had a dedicated campaign with crafted level boundaries and scenarios, and the multiplayer maps were still open ended but small arenas that weren't designed for competitive gaming primarily. Halo's model closely resembles Goldeneye in it's value package, but with the addition of online play. Mass multiplayer games don't resemble Halo in any way in their packaging of content anymore, which feels strange to say.

>> No.6937172

>>6937160
It's not about McDonald's, it's about the aesthetics.
See: >>6934438
nice selfie though.

>> No.6937270

>>6936948
Yeah, that's finally tipped me off.

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6937292

>>6932498
NOTHING can kill The Grimace.

>> No.6937298

>>6936116
Why is this a meme?

>> No.6937353

>>6930483
Because contrary to the doomers, the 90's was shit.

>> No.6937383

>>6934886
>and how nuggets are really made TV specials

You mean those staged ''social experiment'' trashfires with that fake pink goop they used to fear monger and scare people?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9il0DVhT86E

>> No.6937385

>>6937383
Staged or not, it doesn't really matter. The damage was done, so they had to change their image

>> No.6937417

>>6931423
I remember some detailed posts by some guy saying he was an expert on advertising logo design and building design going into detail how bottom is objectively better. He was wrong.

>> No.6937418

>>6930483
In the 1990's I was playing Sonic 3 & Knuckles for the first time, I guess by default that makes it the best decade of my life.

>> No.6937425

>>6937417
Because you have nostalgia for your bright and colorful childhood, we know

>> No.6937427

>>6937385
That's the effect of NOT fighting back against THE S.0.Y!

>> No.6937559

>>6936675
At least here in the UK, "victory" in WW2 is used as a reason we can't do anything to stop the decline, because to want to preserve a sense of what Britain was before the war makes you the people that Britain fought in the war. It doesn't make sense, but that is the rhetoric.

>> No.6937575

>>6930761
They were called Hielocos in my country

>> No.6937592

>>6937418
You're me. You're exactly me.

>> No.6938143

>>6937425
This.
Fuck colors, fuck charm, and more importantly, FUCK soul

>> No.6938148

>>6938143
Yeah? Well FUCK YOU.

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6938236

>>6937559
Precisely - ergo, 'did we really win?'

>> No.6938238
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6938238

>>6930496
True

>> No.6938241

>>6931423
Green = healthy food so they're trying to distance themselves from the junk food image by selling more salads.

>> No.6938247

>>6938236
Based. Allah won.

>> No.6938253

>>6938236
Should've shot all your royals.

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>>6938247
>Based. Allah won.

>> No.6938259
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>>6930504
That’s a super retarded take. I love 60s/70s Rock and totally wish I grew up in that era where those bands and music was very much part of the world’s culture.
>inb4 music is different
A little, but the same thing applies 90s culture which include videogames. Even though people are fully capable of watching the same cartoons and playing the same games now, it’s not the same as experiencing those same exact things the same time as the rest of the world. Even though new pokemon fans can buy a copy of Red and Blue they will never experience Pokemania ever. And just because you weren’t a part of it doesn’t mean that they wouldn’t know what its like because “how can someone else’s youth culture give you this idea?”

>> No.6938279

>>6931462
Bottom looks 10x better, what are you smoking? Even as a kid I remember going to McDonald's and thinking how fucking disgusting it looked, and the garish use of white, red and yellow was depressing and institutional to me, like some kind of grungy highschool cafeteria. I've seen some ugly restaurants before but that bottom one looks legitimately nice and you're a retarded faggot who's stuck in 1988.

>> No.6938280

>>6938236
The issue is you're called a Nazi symathiser or a traitor for this, when it's just a simple fact. If you were to take an objective stance and compare the nation before the war and after the war, and then (knowing nothing about the war) use that difference to declare whether we won or lost, no one would say we won. We left the war weaker, poorer, and confused culturally. We even still had rationing for years afterwards.

This isn't even getting into the deification that the war has received where it's almost "the reason" the country existed at all, and was the greatest thing we ever did, which basically says we have reached our finale. The weird thing is you're regarded as "unpatriotic" if you say that WW2 wasn't that great in comparison to other feats and in fact our greatest moment is still to come. It's bizarre.

>>6938253
I remember someone saying that the royals love mass immigration because it lets them LARP as a global empire but with less travelling.

>> No.6938290

>>6930818
You mean Tazos.

>> No.6938298

>>6938279
Here's the thing: both look institutional. The bottom one also has red, yellow and white.
Stop larping, you weren't alive or conscious back in the 90s.
Also it's not just McDonald's:
>>6934438
>>6934441
Defend those.
>m-muh "garish" colors!
Not an argument.

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>>6938280
See pic related. Hans gets a little flowery but I think he hits the nail on the head.

>> No.6938538

>>6938280
You're called a Nazi sympathizer because you're saying "we'd be better off if the Nazis won." You could say "we'd be better off if the war never happened" or better yet how you'd be better off if more specific issues were handled differently in the past 80 years. I suppose the fixation on WWII is understandable, but I can't see how you'd prefer a world where Hitler won without being a Nazi sympathizer and believing the world would be better off if they had lasted longer and had more influence. If you're acknowledging how the country was left weaker afterwards because of the destruction, getting totally destroyed and conquered wouldn't have made you better off. There's any number of other ways to express discontent with your country and the direction it took.

>> No.6938563

>>6938290
based spaniard anon and viva la guardia civil.

>> No.6939043

>>6938538
The real big brain answer is 'we'd be better off if WWI never happened'.

>> No.6939168

>>6938280
Da fuq are you saying? We were in the Great Depression before, the war saved the economy. Just be honest and admit you hate Jews.

>> No.6939313

>>6938538
But it makes no sense. We lost the war to America (the destruction of the British Empire being an aim of the US shows that, as does the US military personnel in our country). I didn't even mention Nazis (Gemany also lost the war to America but also has the USSR feasting on the remains).
The winners of WW2 were the US and the USSR. Saying this does not mean anything of the sort unless you buy into the myth of the event.

>> No.6939317

>>6939168
>We were in the Great Depression before, the war saved the economy
And all it cost was the Empire, and giving America all our gold.

>> No.6939331

>>6930496
It's /vr/ "Retro Games" not "Old Faggots"

>> No.6939343

>>6939043
this

>> No.6939346

>>6930483
Probably had something to do with the Adults involved in our entertainment industries. Look at today's adults. They're fucking pathetic. Can't even take a joke anymore.

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>>6939313
>We lost the war to America
As an American, I'll accept this version of history. America destroys the British yet again.

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>>6939331
>It's /vr/ "Retro Games" not "Old Faggots"

>> No.6939532

>>6939374
Women think they can get away with anything.

>> No.6939549

>>6931137
>Focus on the things that you LIKE.
Every time I try that gay retards do everything they can to ruin it.

>> No.6939576

>>6939532
I blame the faggot and his friend recording for not hitting her back for her retarded misunderstanding

>> No.6939616

>>6932392
Those old men are correct. There's nothing wrong with expressing dissatisfaction with the way things are going.
I honestly don't understand why you even came into this thread. Either you felt like getting fanny flustered or felt the need to defend your childhood. Which, while I admit it is mostly, but not all, subjective, seemed for all intents and purposes to be worse than the previous five. It's a very common sentiment.

>> No.6939630

>>6939616
I should have said the decade of your childhood, or whatever decade you associate yourself with. Even as a teen I could tell shit got worse after 2001, and again after 2007.
Boomers seemed to have lucked out and been at the peak. Imagine being able to afford a house as a couple working minimum wage jobs.

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6939642

>>6939532
>Be zoom zoom
>Fortnite dance IRL like a faggot
>Woman with a higher test level than you slaps you across your bitch face
>Try to talk your way out of it instead of hitting her back

>> No.6939671

>>6939642
>hit her back
>burger court system puts you to twenty years of labor

>> No.6939683

>>6939671
I was actually about to respond to that guy's post saying the kid could take the most alpha option a soiboi could take and press assualt charges against her.
But, if he did hit her back, it's self defense. He never touched her beforehand.
In either cases, just make sure you opt for a judge decided case, so the jury can't be packed with danger hair feminists that only pretend to want equality.
If you're in the ninth circle of hell, I mean, ninth circuit, you might just be fucked period.

>> No.6939889

>>6930496
Fuck off. I'm 33, and by your logic, than I wouldn't be allowed to enjoy anything modern and I quite enjoy my gaming laptop and Nintendo switch.
Let younger people enjoy things. Stop being an asshole.
If young people can enjoy things that we grew up with, than that speaks for the quality of what we had.

>> No.6939904

>>6930504
>If you enjoy games based in the middle ages, than you must be autistic.

>> No.6940251

>>6931243
everybody was butthurt about them but nobody had the idea to give their actual voices some time in the spotlight.

>> No.6940321

>>6939576
>her retarded misunderstanding
What misunderstanding? Punching a zoomer is the correct thing to do.

>> No.6940528

>>6932475
>>6932498
>>6937292
based

>> No.6941035

>>6940321
It could have been his mom