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6927709 No.6927709 [Reply] [Original]

Why so much hate for the 64 when this was worse in every single way possible? It's the only generation where SEGA got straight up blown the fuck out in every department by Nintendo

>> No.6927715

The "hate" you see online for the N64 is a very loud minority of console war fanboys, most people like the console.
With the Saturn, while maybe not as popular, it's still a console that got a lot of love over the years, people learned to appreciate it, it's just that in the west it had very questionable marketing decisions, partly due to Stolar.
Console warriors ARE a minority, most normal people don't partake in it.

>> No.6927723

>>6927715
I just don't get the Saturn shilling despite the fact that it has no games in the US

>> No.6927768

>>6927723
258 US Saturn games
1,265 Japanese

296 US N64 games
388 total

>> No.6927794

Saturn beat n64 in the only market that matters Japan

>> No.6927801

>>6927794
It's kind of a tie because while saturn sold more hardware, n64 sold more software.

>> No.6927807

I don't "hate" the N64, it's just that it has so few good games that it's such a non-entity as time goes on.

>> No.6927819

>>6927715
And pretty much every time it's N64 fans starting the console warring.

>> No.6927827

>>6927819
No way to tell, but majority of the time it's Sony fans, both anti-Saturn and anti-N64 threads. Many of it might be falseflag though, but considering how Sony fans behave on /v/, it might be genuine.

>> No.6927830
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>>6927709
Felt like it never reached it's potential in the US. If FirePro was released outside of Japan it would have had given the 13 year old me a hands-free orgasm.

>> No.6927839

>>6927709
The console that is considered the best usually gets the most hate. Saturn doesn’t get the hate because everyone knows its not the best

>> No.6927852

>>6927839
>The console that is considered the best usually gets the most hate.
But only when it comes to Nintendo. When every other console gets hate it's because it sucks.

>> No.6927867

>>6927827
This honestly seems to be finger pointing. Every time an N64 fan is called out for starting one of these console wars, they immediately try to blame Sony Fans. Case in point, this very thread is started by an N64 fan, and is definitely aimed at starting one.

>> No.6927869

>>6927867
OP of this thread might be a N64 fanboy, but that doesn't excuse all the other hundreds of pro-Sony/anti-Sega/Nintendo threads.
In the end, all fanboys are bad, I'm not excusing Nintendo or Sega fans. But I do believe that Sony fans are the worst.

>> No.6927874

>>6927867
I think you're OP, and you're a Sony fan trying to falseflag to get a Nintendo vs Sega thread going.
See how >>6927715 never specifically referred to any specific brand, he just blamed console wars.
Then, >>6927819 (most likely you) pointed the finger to N64 fans.

>> No.6927875

>>6927867
Yes, Nintendo fans try their hardest to play both sides when convenient, and attempt to convince other sides to not participate giving them monopoly on the narrative. Any opposition or criticism of Nintendo their systems or games is considered console wars. However anything against Sega or Sony is not. It's only console wars when it's directed at Nintendo.

In fact, in the first reply to your post there's the exact deflection we're talking about. It's a slimy, pathetic attempt at shifting blame. Everyone's a Nintendo fan until it's convenient not to be one, right?

>> No.6927878

>>6927869
I honestly don't see many of those threads. There seems to be more threads like
>What do you mean the N64 isn't the best?
>WTF you guys like the Saturn now!? But it can't do 3D?
>But no one likes JRPGs anyways! 3D Platformers are better!
>Games from Japan don't count! Only US released 3D games!

Which is again, right out of the N64 fanboy playbook.

>> No.6927880

>>6927878
JRPGs are a shit genre though.

>> No.6927883

>>6927875
This thread started as an anti-Saturn (and supposedly pro-N64, although most likely sony falseflag), and the first reply was still referring to console wars.
Your schizo hypothesis is already debunked.

>> No.6927884

>>6927874
Typical N64 fanboy projection and attempting to blame Sony fans.

I'm a Sega fan. Try again.

>> No.6927885

>>6927883
Nah, this is a Nintendo board. No reason to assume it's a false flag. But thanks for making it obvious what you're trying to do.

>> No.6927889

I love and still play games on
my n64 and my jp saturn. Crazy, right?

>> No.6927894

>>6927883
>Every N64 fanboy trying to console war is actually a Sony fan!
Sony fans have better things to do. They're still trying to play through their console's entire library.

>> No.6927896

>>6927885
Strange victim complex.
This is a Sega-Nintendo board because it started as a board for only up to 4th gen. 5th gen was quickly added, but Sony fans were never fully welcomed.

>> No.6927902

>>6927894
>They're still trying to play through their console's entire library.
Why would anyone torture themselves like that?

>> No.6927903

>>6927894
>They're still trying to play through their console's entire library.
Nah, all the japan-only "hidden gems" gather 0 discussion, people just post the boxarts and call it a day.
PS1 threads are just circlejerks about the same 15 or so games: MGS, Final Fantasy... the list could go on.

>> No.6927905

>>6927896
Thanks for making it obvious.

>> No.6927907

>>6927889
You don't belong on the internet. You MUST pick a company and stick with it.

>> No.6927914

N64 was a more expensive console back then. Not the system itself, but the games were expensive.
There was a clear social division between N64 kids and PlayStation kids. Over time, the PS kids developed resentful feelings toward N64 users, and in turn, projected said feelings toward the system itself and its games.
They're also probably angry about the fact that, despite N64 having a smaller library, people talk more about N64 games compared to PS games. Or at least the discussion is pretty even. In their minds, they can't comprehend that a system that sold much less and has so much less titles is basically on par (if not more) in terms of popularity.
As someone who isn't a big fan of 5th gen in general, I can say that you can be cruel about any of the 3 system's graphics, if you want to, but all 3 systems got some really good games. I just think the notion of PS being "the winner" and having a seemingly unlimited library damaged the Sony fan's perception, because on one hand they think that they are immune to criticism due to PS being the "winner" of the generation, so there's a sort of short circuit going on in their heads when that narratives isn't reflected in reality (people actually having as much love for the N64 as for the PS)

>> No.6927915

>>6927903
>PS1 threads are just circlejerks about the same 15 or so games
At least they reach that much.
No one would defend the library of the N64 if it wasn't for the N part.

>> No.6927925

>>6927914
It's more that the Saturn over the past decade has become more popular and is getting looked back on more fondly. So N64 fans don't like that they now may have to share the 2nd place spotlight.

>> No.6927928

>>6927914
>bullshit psycho analysis

>> No.6927931

>>6927925
Saturn>N64>>>>PS1
Having a PS1 as a kid was more convenient since it was cheaper games and easy piracy, but now that I can afford anything I want, N64+Saturn is the superior experience.

>> No.6927938

>>6927931
Yeah, but you've already played Mario 64 and the two Zelda games? Oh, and the two Banjo games.

>> No.6927942

>>6927938
I actually don't like banjo, played only the first one, never bothered with the sequel. Would rather play Goemon or Bomberman.

>> No.6927974

My personal reasons, being an N64 owner back then with a cousin that had a Saturn:
>Saturn games were cheaper
>Saturn had RGB SCART, N64 only composhite
>Saturn had more game variety and more 3rd party games, up to 1997-1998
>N64 used battery for memory cards and some cartridges, Saturn had internal battery backed memory, but could be changed with the console on and the save cartridge used flash memory

N64 was nice for Mario 64, Zeldas, and some party games. The library is more focused and has its appeal, the main gripes I have are hardware-related, namely video output and battery saves.

>> No.6927990

>>6927931
Swap N64 with PSX.
N64 didn't have enough 2D master race games, just a bunch of janky 3D that's aged very poorly.

>> No.6928010

retarded newfag here, what's the best saturn emulator?

>> No.6928056

>>6927709
Can you shut up you little shit stain

>> No.6928063

>>6928010
I don't like any of them, they all have problems from weird performance issues causing them to run too fast to screwing up basic system functionality. If you're really looking for one mess around with mednafen.

>> No.6928102

>>6927709
It's not because the saturn was worse that the N64 will be any good

>> No.6928423

>>6927709
Not everyone is an OP zoomie who grew up with a DS

>> No.6928457

>>6928010
Yabause was a decent emulator, but the people working on it stubbornly refused to support multi bin formatted games which was basically the entire Redump collection. Two forks came from this. Yaba Sanshiro and Kronos. I haven't tried either of those, but I was so put off by the original developers I've used nothing but Mednafen and the Mednaffe front end for the past few years.

>> No.6928553

>>6927894
>playing shovelware for months on end

>> No.6928837

>>6927709
Except it had fantastic shmups, fighters, and JRPGs which were all missing on the N64 you silly cunt.

>> No.6928841

>>6928553
Sony fans are stupid, but not THAT stupid. They just claim to play games, doesn't mean they actually do.

>> No.6928843

>>6928010
SSF, followed very closely by Mednafen. No others are even worth trying.
>>6928063
>they all have problems from weird performance issues causing them to run too fast to screwing up basic system functionality.
You're completely full of shit. SSF has been running brilliantly for about 15 years now. I finished Panzer Saga and a bunch of other games on it in 2006.

>> No.6928895

>>6927884
Sure, schizo fool.

>> No.6928963

>>6927902
>>6928553
>>6928841
I see you all have no sense of humor and are unable to tell a joke from a serious statement.
>>6928895
Keep trying to blame your console wars on Sony fans.

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6928968

>>6928963
>I was merely pretending to be retarded

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6929014

>>6927709
>Why so much hate for the 64 when this was worse in every single way possible?

Ummmm did N64 or PS1 have arcade quality 2D fighter ports?? No? What the fuck have you been smoking? The Saturn was a 2D beast.