/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.6917286]

Mistakes were made.

[Anonymous No.6917289]

>>6917286
threadly reminder that posts like this littered the catalog in the pre v2k days, and not much has changed since

[Anonymous No.6917296]

>>6917286
N64 is one of the best consoles ever made suck my cock bitch!

[Anonymous No.6917297]

>>6917289
Cope, N64 babby

[Anonymous No.6917317]

>>6917286
Still a better console than the Gamecube, or hell, any Nintendo system that came after it.

[Anonymous No.6917336]

>>6917286
STILL THE BEST CONSOLE EVER CREATED

[Anonymous No.6917347]

>>6917286
Hybrid Heaven, thankfully, was not one of them.

[Anonymous No.6917348]

Feels good to have gotten a ps1

[Anonymous No.6917349]

>>6917348
Same bro.

[Anonymous No.6917351]

>>6917286

>best innovative controller where innovations are still standard today
>no load times
>super powerful and cheap system

Yeah no. Only mistakes made were the lack of VRAM

[Anonymous No.6917354]

>>6917286
You know what, it worked. You could in fact hold the controller and not suffer terrible agony as if by a wizard's curse. The textures were blurry everywhere but at least they could do straight lines and didn't wobble. The N64 was the 5th gen console whose 3D graphics were genuinely functional in a basic sense.

It's a shame about no discs, but what it generally cut into was whether a game could have CD audio, not whether the game could be played or look acceptable. CD loads were a menace at the time with how slow they were and how little could be loaded into RAM in one go.

I could complain about RPGs or smaller library but N64 didn't lack quality games.

[Anonymous No.6917363]

>>6917286
And mistakes continued
N64>gamecube>wii>wii u

[Anonymous No.6917365]

>>6917317
Nintendo has literally become worse with every single console release. They should have ended with the Famicom.

[Anonymous No.6917369]

>>6917336
n64 is in the very low tier of consoles. it is notable for being the point when it all went wrong for nintendo. this is where they lost third party support and started lagging behind in terms of technology. also every controller from this on is janky gimmicky shit until they said fuck it and copied xbox. the snes is GOAT tier, had everything, and they fucked it all up. now you buy a nintendo console to play nintendo games and thats it

[Anonymous No.6917375]

>>6917369
nah N64 easily beats Nintendo and SNES. better percentage of games compared to those 2

[Anonymous No.6917382]

>>6917375
you're fucking high. even if every single game on the n64 was good it would have a sliver of the offerings of the NES and SNES

[Anonymous No.6917404]

>>6917382
Those consoles both had really bad games as well.

[Anonymous No.6917405]

>>6917382
It has 3d which is awesome

[Anonymous No.6917407]

>>6917363
>>wii
You're 100% right about the others, but the Wii had some bonafide classics.
>No More Heroes 1 & 2
>Super Mario Galaxy
>Sin & Punishment: Star Successor
>Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
>Muramasa: The Demon Blade
>Kirby's Return to Dreamland
>Marble Saga: Kororinpa
>MadWorld
>House of the Dead: Overkill
>Deadly Creatures
>Zack & Wiki
>Opoona
>Spy Game: Elevator Mission

[Anonymous No.6917416]

>>6917404
you could find at least 500 games worth playing between the NES and SNES. there weren't even 400 games in TOTAL released for the n64. you are seriously fucked by nostalgia to be arguing about this

[Anonymous No.6917417]

>>6917407
I thought the Wii was better than this list shows, desu. I'm rethinking how good the Wii library was now.

[Anonymous No.6917423]

>>6917407
>>Spy Game: Elevator Mission
Gotta love when someone lists a bunch of B+ games only to top it off with an F- entry.

[Anonymous No.6917430]

>>6917416
500 you got to be fucking kidding me. There were like 13 good ones on the SNES and 11 on NES...

N64 had
Super Mario 64
Wave Race
Star Fox 64
Goldeneye 007
Diddy Kong Racing
Banjo Kazooie
Turok 2
F zero X
Beetle Racing Adventure
Rayman 2
Donkey Kong 64
Perfect Dark
Majora's Mask
Banjo Tooie
Conkers Bad Fur Day

Not nostalgia the reviews show N64 had better games period. Cant argue against the majority

[Anonymous No.6917436]

>>6917430
>Cant argue against the majority
It would be socially and spiritually unhealthy not to. Vanilla ice cream is the most widely-accepted flavor, but it's far from the best.
>inb4 comparing entertainment to food
Both are essential to life.

[Anonymous No.6917437]

>>6917430
I went through a rompack of 700 nes games and after culling them ended up with 271. I was astonished how fun most of these were. It's really easy to write off the NES when you don't actually play through its library.

[Anonymous No.6917445]

>>6917437
I do like the SNES
Super Mario Bros 1 and 2 are great.
Ninja Gaiden is fantastic and Kirby's adventure is huge for an NES game

[Anonymous No.6917451]

We can agree the gamecube had the most comfy games though

[Anonymous No.6917452]

>>6917437
That's the thing about the NES, so many of its games are so basic but also fun to just pick up and play. Something that newer games are getting further away from.

[Anonymous No.6917456]

>>6917451
yeah man maximum comfy

[Anonymous No.6917462]

>>6917452
yes absolutely. the games of the NES have an arcade quality that nintendo moved away from after, but then again video games in general did too. they have a wonderful simplicity to them

[Anonymous No.6917465]

>>6917462
Sega kept the arcade quality until the very end

[Anonymous No.6917468]

>>6917465
to their detriment you might say.

[Anonymous No.6917482]

>>6917468
Possibly, but I've got respect for anyone who sticks to their guns instead of pandering to whatever current trends dictate. It's better to burn out than to fade away.

[Anonymous No.6917494]

>>6917286
>Transition to 3D
>Ocarina of time
>Mario 64
>Rare

/thread

[Anonymous No.6917505]

>>6917482
I agree and somehow SNK lasted longer than sega in the console business despite making 1/10th of the revenue sega made

[Anonymous No.6917510]

>>6917505
True, but SNK were based as fuck. Their operating costs were also probably lower than Sega's, as a whole.

[Anonymous No.6917656]

>>6917430
>Super Mario 64
Dated collect-a-thon, that feels almost like a tech demo
>Wave Race
Decent I guess
>Star Fox 64
Derivative space shooter but NINTENDO, so that means its good
>Goldeneye 007
A mediocre shooter even for its time, fondly remembered solely for its multiplayer
>Diddy Kong Racing
Crash Team Racing was better
>Banjo Kazooie
Another dated collect-a-thon. I'd rather play Spyro
>Turok 2
Another dated fps
>F zero X
Decent
>Beetle Racing Adventure
I'd rather play Ridge Racer, thanks
>Rayman 2
Dreamcast version is better
>Donkey Kong 64
Literally every problem with the collect-a-thon genre in one game
>Perfect Dark
Better than Goldeneye but doesn't feel suited for N64 hardware
>Majora's Mask
Not my fave but I'll let it pass
>Banjo Tooie
Has everything that sucked about the original and more
>Conkers Bad Fur Day
Banjo kazooie but with shit jokes

>Not nostalgia the reviews show N64 had better games period. Cant argue against the majority
The 64 library is a joke. Yes, these games were praised when they came out but mostly by Nintendo fans and casual gamers. Just the fact that they were getting 3D right before the other two consoles was enough for most people. Since then, the console's popularity has been held up by those who grew up with it and refuse to let it go. I bet you still reminisce about the first time you ran around Peach's Castle and thought games couldn't get any better than this, right?

The truth is, just like highly reviewed games today (last of us, God of war, etc) they were always mediocre at best.

[Anonymous No.6917658]

>>6917351
What element of the N64 controller is still "innovative" today? Rumble? Didn't even launch with that capability.
DualShocks really set the standard for future controllers, and I say that as someone that grew up with the N64.

[Anonymous No.6917660]

>>6917407
and all of those games would have been better off in a system that wasn't hardware gimped and designed around a poorly-functioning gimmick.

[Anonymous No.6917686]

>>6917317
Game cube is a better console then N64
But N64 was more culturally relevant at the time.

[Anonymous No.6917690]

>>6917375
SNES was nintendo's best system it was not as successful as the NES but its games still look good.

[Anonymous No.6917718]

>>6917456
I can't call Geist comfy because of how choppy it ran. They really tried, though. It had so much good in it.

[Anonymous No.6917721]

>>6917656
Hello, based department?

[Anonymous No.6918864]

>>6917686
>Game cube is a better console then N64
Gamecube got more third party stuff, but N64 has way better exclusives and hidden gems.

[Anonymous No.6918870]

I love how N64 still makes console warriors and SSPs seethe so much.

[Anonymous No.6920535]

I am getting a dreamcast next week what games should I burn?

[Anonymous No.6920591]

>>6917656
>I'd rather play Spyro
Opinion discarded. I don't think there is a collect-a-thon with worse taste than Spyro.
If you said Crash as an alternative classic platformer perhaps your post could be taken more seriously.

[Anonymous No.6920709]

>>6917286
It fucking sucks

[Anonymous No.6920713]

stop liking the nintendo 64 or esle

[Anonymous No.6920912]

>>6920535
Elemental Gimmick Gear

[Anonymous No.6922378]

>>6920912
Thanks I saw photos of this once but forgot about it.

[Anonymous No.6922420]

>>6917286
>Mistakes were made.
What mistakes? Nintendo saw an opportunity of taking gaming to the next level and even matching high-end PCs with Voodoo cards and they took it. Don't count the bottlenecks of the N64 as "mistakes", the engineers knew there were bottlenecks but were attempting to keep costs down on what was originally a supercomputer - the SGI workstation. The reason why things went south is because cartridge prices didn't fall as had been expected and coding the machine turned out to be harder than expected. Life is about balancing risk with potential rewards. They took a risk with the Wii and it turned out a spectacular success.

What's more when thing started to go south Nintendo didn't abandon their fans and rush out a new console or add-on like Sega, for whatever Nintendo fucked up they didn't ask their fans to pay for it. They stuck with the console and made sure it kept producing AAA titles like Perfect Dark or CBFD well into the 2000s.

[Anonymous No.6922489]

>>6922420
>producing AAA titles like Perfect Dark or CBFD well into the 2000s.
Producing shitty games isn't something to be proud of

[Anonymous No.6922493]

>>6917286
Were they?

[Anonymous No.6922494]

>>6918864
>hidden gems
>N64
does such a thing exist?

[Anonymous No.6922504]

Only Americans give a shit about N64. They're pretty infantile so its library suits their tastes.

[Anonymous No.6922514]

>>6917348
I saw a guy who grew up with a N64 and without a PS1 make a thread looking for recs the other day and he must've had at least 30-40 gems to go through. Made me envy him because I got an N64 later after growing up somewhere and I had barely anything to try in comparison

[Anonymous No.6922519]

>>6922504
This is a myth, the N64 was also successful in Europe and Japan.

[Anonymous No.6922523]

>>6922519
You're out of your mind. I repeat: ONLY_AMERICANS give a shit about N64.

[Anonymous No.6922543]

>>6922523
You can repeat all you want shithead, your figures confirm that the N64 was also wildly successful in Europe and Japan. The N64 has a massive fanbase and presence both here Europe and Japan and it always has.

[Anonymous No.6922550]

>>6922543
>outsold by PSX 6 to 1
>wildly successful

ok retard
just 1 question: were you bullied at school because all your peers had a playstation and your parents bought you a bing bing wahoo shitbox instead?

[Anonymous No.6922553]

>>6917286
Yes, but there's no use lingering on them.
Just enjoy what it had

[Anonymous No.6922557]

my friend and i just tried to race a blind play through of conkers bad fur day, having both grown up with N64s but never having played that game. it felt emblematic of how poorly some of this console's games age. the camera and controls are a war crime. the game is carried almost entirely by charm

[Anonymous No.6922559]

>>6922550
yeah... we can't talk anymore kiddo.

[Anonymous No.6922561]

>>6917286
As a former owner of the N64, I fucking loved it every second I had it. My only gripe with it was the analog stick which was an obvious blatant flaw.

[Anonymous No.6922563]

>>6922550
>unironically saying "bing big wahoo"
... we can't talk anymore kiddo.

Also Nintendo kids were always the smarter and high achieving families until sixth gen.

[Anonymous No.6922568]

>>6922563
oh I'm so sorry mr mariodownie, was it a trigger word? a commendable attempt at changing subject I must admit, doesn't change the fact however that
1. n64 was a failure outside NA
2. only americans give a shit about n64

[Anonymous No.6922571]

>>6922568
lol you are actually making me laugh. That is quite an achievement for a troll.

[Anonymous No.6923180]

>>6922494
Yes.

[Anonymous No.6923210]

>>6917317
Gamecube, Switch, and even the Wii are better consoles than the N64 so no.

[Anonymous No.6923220]

>>6923180
that's not remotely hidden

[Anonymous No.6923239]

>awful controller layout
>did I mention awful controller layout? absolutely horrid. they should have just reused the SNES controller and added an analog stick or two.
>small library of games
>not a good variety of games within that small library
BUT
>the games that were good were really good
that's about all the Nintendo 64 has going for it.

[Anonymous No.6923242]

>>6923220
lol yeah everyone had this one growin up
i remember heading out to the EB games
excited to pick up my copy of "Wonder Project J2 - Koruro no Mori no Jozet"
A well-known classic the world over
retard

[Anonymous No.6923286]

>>6923180
>pedophile sim
no thanks, "bro"

[Anonymous No.6923295]

>>6923210
>Gamecube, Switch, and even the Wii are better consoles than the N64 so no.
An argument could be made for the GC maybe, but Switch and Wii? Fuck no. Terrible libraries.

[Anonymous No.6923306]

N64 is so incredible that anytime it's brought up, people who DON'T LIKE IT have to let you know HOW OVERRATED AND SHITTY it is
Did i mention it sucks????

[Anonymous No.6923307]

>>6923242
Why are they like this? This game has been translated for 13 years. If you frequent any boards that have to do with old games - you know this. This mix of snide condescension and an undeserved superiority complex might be the biggest Nintendo exclusive of all time.

[Anonymous No.6923325]

God Tier:
NES

High Tier:
N64
SNES

Mid Tier:
GBA
Gamecube

Low Tier:
Gameboy
GBC

Shit Tier:
DS
Wii
3DS
Switch
Wii U
Virtual Boy

[Anonymous No.6923343]

>>6923325
you tried

[Anonymous No.6923362]

>>6923325
based. fuck nu-nintendo and fuck casual normieniggers.

[Anonymous No.6923695]

>>6917658
But the dual shock just copied the two main innovations that the N64 pad brought to the table.

[Anonymous No.6924517]

>>6917286
>a good console
>mistake

How about posting actual mistake consoles like the Atari 5200 or the Pippin?

[Anonymous No.6924520]

>>6924517
Killing Nintendo is a worse crime

[Anonymous No.6924528]

>>6924520
>killing Nintendo
You wish.
Nintendo and Sega both were bonna get their market share taken away from them anyway, sooner or later. And Nintendo is still alive and selling both hardware and software.
You fucking wish they were dead, though.

[Anonymous No.6924530]

>>6917286
>basically no 2d games
what the fuck were they thinking

[Anonymous No.6924534]

>>6924520
>killing Nintendo
Nintendo is still around, and has so much money, that they would still be around if they lost over $200 million annually for thirty years.

[Anonymous No.6924539]

>>6924530
It has some really good ones.
Anyway, 5th gen was kinda weak in 2D in general.
Saturn got some really good Capcom/SNK fighting ports, and PS1 has SOTN I guess (which has a lot of divisive opinions due to changing the style of Castlevania, making it more abut exploration/RPG rather than action-platforming), but in general, if your thing is 2D, stay in 3rd and 4th gen.

[Anonymous No.6924567]

>>6917656
>>Super Mario 64
>Dated collect-a-thon
lol. do i even need to continue reading?

[Anonymous No.6924568]

>>6917317
>better console than the Gamecube
You know what?
I'll actually agree with you on that.
I played more games on the n64 than I ever did on the cube.
Yeah we've all played melee til' hell froze over and warmed again, but it's pretty much the only reason the cube wasn't a complete failure.
Fer christ sake it didn't even have a mainline mario game until over a year after the cubes launch and they clearly rushed sunshine just to do that.

[Anonymous No.6924585]

You can't look at this from the lens of the modern day tech we have grown accustomed to.


This was groundbreaking when it game out, it was a landmark in gaming technology. For many of us, this was the first time we had seen graphics of this magnitude.

The devs for the console had nothing to go off of, they did their best, and their best paved the way for future generations of gaming.

Yeah, the N64 has aged poorly in comparison to other consoles that were more refined in their craft (example, SNES hasn't aged a day).

The console wasn't a mistake, and neither was the use of flash memory instead of optical. Flash memory is way faster and is appropriate for the games Nintendo wanted on their console.

I do agree that playing it these days is a clunky experience that I no longer enjoy, but I remember it for what it was, and I can pay my respects. Luckily most of the best games have been remastered.

[Anonymous No.6924595]

>>6917369
I agree man, SNES is my favorite console. Is there another console with as many all star stunners? I can't think of any

[Anonymous No.6924603]

>>6917363
I liked the Wii because of its extensive virtual console

[Anonymous No.6924607]

>>6924539
Saturn got lots of fun 2D sidescrollers, play moar.

[Anonymous No.6924618]

>>6924585
cartridges were a bad idea even at the time. hindsight has nothing to do with it

[Anonymous No.6924623]

>>6924607
yeah... Astal.... Rockman 8.... Taromaru...
Fine games, but can't compare to the stuff in 3rd and 4th gen, both in sheer quantity AND quality.

[Anonymous No.6924641]

>>6924618
They allowed for much faster loading times.

You might have a point though, Nintendo was literally trying to develop a disk drive for the damn thing.

Good point, that's all I can say

[Anonymous No.6924648]

>>6924641
the problem was it lost them the third party support that made the nes and snes so awesome. from the n64 onward, nintendo consoles became nintendo game machines, with the playstation continuing the tradition of the nes and snes.

[Anonymous No.6924649]

>>6924618
I believe sticking to carts was more of an anti-piracy measure anyway.
Which didn't work of course, and while the ps1 was rife with piracy in the long run that doesn't matter when it outsells your competition by more than three times over.

[Anonymous No.6924660]

>>6924607
No it didn't.

[Anonymous No.6924687]

>>6917286
You know, I've been a huge nintendo fan my whole life. I've had every Nintendo console and handheld, except Wii U (i even had a virtual boy) out of them all; N64 was the ONE console by big N that I flat out didn't like at all.

It had some good games, but not enough. Most of the best and most fun games that gen were on all 3 other major competing platforms (I include PC in this statement) and I feel like some big nintendo properties made a really awkward transition to 3D. Not only that, but sticking to carts during the industry wide move to 3D was just stupid. It cornered them a lot of times and prevented them from having high quality sound and textures, along with shorter games across the board.

I also laugh when people try and say N64 was the best console ever or that Mario 64 is the best platformer ever. It exemplifies to me that these fools just never played enough other games to know any better.

[Anonymous No.6924692]

>>6924595
Playstation has it beat 5 to 1, but SNES is still great.

[Anonymous No.6924712]

>>6924692
SNES is better than Playstation in every way.

[Anonymous No.6924727]

>>6924660
Assault Suit Leynos 2
Astal
Clockwork Knight 2
Gex
Hissatsu!
Keio Flying Squadron 2
Mega Man 8
Mega Man X4
Mr. Bones
Nanatsu Kaze no Shima Monogatari
NiGHTS into Dreams
Pandemonium
Princess Crown
Rayman
Shinobi X
Shinrei Jusatsushi Taromaru
Silhouette Mirage
Super Tempo
Symphony of the Night (much more additional content than PSX version)
Tryrush Deppy

[Anonymous No.6924734]

>>6917365
Only the NES, the SNES and the GB/GBC were good.

Gamecube had the potential but oh no, we want storage maunfactur money!!! thats the real reason the n64 used cartridges by the way, they wanted to charge for chips boards and cart making, you dont deserve to live if you believe it was because of the loading times.

[Anonymous No.6924738]

>>6924727
None of those are as good as 16-bit or even 8-bit era 2D platformers.

[Anonymous No.6924739]

>>6917407
>Against shitty shovelware title number 1009

[Anonymous No.6924792]

>>6924734
gba and ds were good

[Anonymous No.6926238]

>>6917286
No built in Jaz drive or uesd it media format

[Anonymous No.6926242]

>>6918870
>1997 title
I don’t know how Konami mess up Castlevania 64?

[Anonymous No.6926246]

>>6924727
Your post are irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.6926267]

>>6924517
What about PC-FX and it potentially home brew?

[Anonymous No.6926271]

>>6923180
>its japan exclusive so it must be good
cringe, even by this wanker metric princess maker 2 is better and on a superior system

[Anonymous No.6926282]

>>6923325
>>6923362
Shit taste, nigga.