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6898516 No.6898516 [Reply] [Original]

What is it about retro gaming that makes you the most mad?

>> No.6898526

>>6898516
5-10 minutes of easy parts followed by 1 bullshit part and if you fail you have to do the easy part again. Make the whole thing challenging so it's at least fun getting back to the bullshit part.

>> No.6898537

>>6898526
fair.

>> No.6898542

Limited continues, especially if there's no way to earn more. It's just a relic of the game rental era and complete bullshit, yet some idiots on this very board will defend it.

>> No.6898575

Not having kept my childhood stuff.
Not having taken advantage of the sweet spot in the early 2000s where people were selling their shit for cheap because the concept that old games were good hadn't settled yet.
Other than that, nothing.

>> No.6898610

>>6898542
If you don't suck at the game this is a non-issue. Limiting lives and continues gives developers control over the skill level they want you to have to clear the game.

>> No.6898621

>>6898516
Nothing that can't be solved via emulation.

>> No.6898623

>>6898575
yea i wish i kept my games too at least emulation is good enough

>> No.6898625

How short some games become when you figure out the mechanics

>> No.6898634

>>6898575
No video games store In my area even carried old games by the time gamecube came out. After that, they had N64 if you were lucky. I do remember gamestop doing clearance on all NES games for $.99 because they weren't going to carry them anymore, but I'm not sure when that was.
I did get a few games cheap on ebay back then, though. About $10 each for goldeneye, oot 1.2, dkc2, metroid. None of those went up that much, though.

>> No.6898648

>>6898634
that was like 2004 when they quit having old games

>> No.6898669

>>6898516
When people consider a game "beaten" even though they played it on an emulator.

>> No.6898676

>>6898669
this.

>> No.6898694

Nothing about games make me mad, my issues are personal issues. I can't manage time for shit, I'm getting old, I should be moving on to doing something more productive instead, etc.

>> No.6898769

>>6898516
The absolute disrespect publishers have for their original titles, to the point where they just straight up abandon a game. Games should be preserved so future generations or ourselves at an older age can replay.

>> No.6898781

>>6898669
I don't give a shit if people play on emulators or hardware, but I cringe when savestates babby tries to brag about any sort of progress they made in a game.

>> No.6899067

>>6898516
Gainfully employed adults who have toys i want but can't afford

>> No.6899089
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>>6898516
All of the fucking gatekeeping. What is it about retro games that makes people want to use them as a platform to feel superior to others? It's ridiculous.

>> No.6899439

>>6899089
>Gainfully employed adults who have toys i want but can't afford

>> No.6899641

>>6898516
zOoMeRs

>> No.6899659

>>6898669
Nice bait

>> No.6899674

>>6898516
All the hardware related failures from playing on a console from over 20 years ago, especially ones with a CD drive

>>6899089
the less demand, the lower the prices. If gatekeeping helps delay the price from inflating, then so be it

>> No.6901359

>>6899674
>The more we gatekeep, the less demand, the lower the prices
Yea, because that's worked so well for the Neo Geo collectors.

>> No.6901371

Bullshit AI. Looking at you, Street Fighter 2 Turbo.

>> No.6901597

Underages posting memes here,

>> No.6901607

Nothing makes me mad. You must become the zen master. If you don't, the game will beat you instead.

Except Final Fight stages 4 and 5 for 1cc attenpts.

>> No.6901696

Bullshit asshole difficulty that only serves to artificially pad out a games length. Rare were especially guilty of this.

>> No.6901707

>>6898516
Nintendo after Gen 4 and its fanatics

>> No.6902008

>>6901696
>Bullshit asshole difficulty
That's not where you're supposed to insert the cart gayboi

>> No.6903454

>>6898516
How I'm looked down upon because I pirated Rule of Rose by people who think I should pay 300 bucks to play it.

>> No.6903584

>>6898516
Companies not maintaining their libraries then crying about piracy.

>> No.6903592

>>6903584
Like nigger I'm not paying $250 for tales of destiny 2(NA), put it on PSN for $10 or shut the fuck up

>> No.6904539

PlayStation games with 2, 3, 4 discs

>> No.6904546

localization censorship

>> No.6904548

>>6898542
Actually it gives levity to each death and changes your risk taking and play style. Sorry I just destroyed yr favorite YouTuber. Think before you post idiotic shit like this.

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>>6898516
Can't play games online like Resident evil Outbreak anymore

>> No.6904551

>>6898516
Items previously used by individuals for private use being brought into weak ass collections removing their utility value .

>> No.6904580

>>6904539
Was good for exploits in some games though.

>> No.6904585

>>6899659
Not bait, chances are the developers wouldn't have considered you to have beaten it if you didn't play it the intended way.

>> No.6904595

>>6904580
if it can't fit on one disc, it should have waited until PlayStation 2

>> No.6904602

It shits me when cartridge-based action and platformer games don't have save batteries and level select menus. It was never for difficulty, just to save money and it meant you played the first level tons of times and the latter levels only when you had 1h+ free time. It would be unthinkable these days.

>> No.6904605

>>6904602
this only truly sucks if there was not even a password system

>> No.6904607
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>>6898516
It makes me really mad how collectors are disrespected in our community. They provide an invaluable service to the retro community by preserving our childhoods.

>> No.6904625

>>6904595
>Cartridges where a beter option

>> No.6904643

>>6904625
imagine playing a multiple cartridge game

>> No.6904648

>>6904549
People still play that on private servers, my man.

>> No.6904656

>>6904605
I suppose so. Even password saves feel like an insult to me these days, since it was still a cost saving measure, but I didn't mind them as a kid for some reason.

>> No.6904671

>>6904643
Would have cost 12 cartridges for FF7 if that came true for the N64

>> No.6904674

>>6904671
would it even be possible to swap cartridges like it is with discs?

>> No.6904676

>>6904602
That was me in 88 - 93.

>> No.6904680

>>6898516
They are so fucking hard

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>>6898676
this. so much this.

>> No.6904691

>>6904674
No idea really never owned a N64.
But i don't see why its not possible.

>> No.6904697

>>6904656
it helped kids practice their handwriting.
>write down the password legibly or else you might not be able to read it later and have to start all over

>> No.6904701

>>6904585
you mean save states right?

>> No.6904702

>>6904691
I feel like if it was possible to swap cartridges like CD-ROMs, Square would have tried it on NES or SNES

>> No.6904708

imagine Metal Gear on 3 NES cartridges
imagine Final Fantasy on 8 cartridges

>> No.6904710

>>6904548
>>6898610
thanks for proving >>6898542 right, fags. imagine thinking that being good at video games makes you superior.
>>6899674
>If gatekeeping helps delay the price from inflating, then so be it
imagine being this fucking retarded.

>> No.6904727

>play old but lowkey game
>have a great time
>can't talk to anyone about it
>there's no sequel
>left feeling a void of emptiness

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>>6904708
>add new cart and reset the game
maybe it could have worked

>> No.6904737

>>6898575
>Not having kept my childhood stuff.
Worst mistake I ever made was having a huge amount of my /vr/ stuff get lost in a package without any tracking number. Rebuying some of that stuff really stung because of just how fucking overpriced everything is now.

>> No.6904739

>>6904731
when the console resets, wouldn't it lose the data?

>> No.6904751

>>6904701
No, pirated copies don't count, period. When you purchase a video game, you aren't purchasing ownership of the actual game inside. You are purchasing the right to play that game on the hardware it was designed for. This does make me wonder if it's okay to rip SNES games onto a SNES Classic though...

>> No.6904770

Wait, why the hell are you all talking about multi-cartridge games? The reason why cartridges were small was cost. If you were going to ship a multi-cartridge game, you'd have twice the material cost anyway. You'd just put all the ROM chips in a single cartridge, with a mapper to bank switch them if necessary. The only reason you'd need multiple physical cartridges is if you ran out of physical space inside the cartridge for ROM chips, but I bet you could fit tons in an N64 cart if you sandwiched a bunch of PCBs together.

>> No.6904775

>>6904770
so Square could have put FF7-8-9, Chrono Cross, etc. on a Nintendo 64 cartridge, but the game would have been really expensive?

>> No.6904792

>>6898516
People that claim they beat a game if they used save states

>> No.6904809
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>>6904775
I think so? The price would definitely be insane, but I'm not an expert on the technology of the time so I don't know how densely you could pack ROM chips inside the cart. Pic related is a 64MB game with what looks like two 32MB chips. I don't know what the largest ROM chips they made were, or how many of them you could squeeze into a cartridge, but I guess if you ran out of space in a regular-sized cart, you could just make a really tall one.

>> No.6904841

these multi-disc PlayStation games, like FF and MGS, what if they stripped out all the fancy extra stuff, FMVs, music, downgraded the graphics, took out the voice acting (in the case of Metal Gear Solid), but kept the gameplay the same?
could some of these PlayStation games have been on 1 disc then?

>> No.6904846

>>6904809
>I guess if you ran out of space in a regular-sized cart, you could just make a really tall one.
that would have been kinda cool

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6904851

>>6904846
The development cartridges were T A L L

>> No.6904859

>>6904851
what did they need the extra space for? dev tools?

>> No.6904864

>oh no, i have to get off my ass after 15 hours of gameplay to swap a disk. This is unacceptable
Do americans really?

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>>6904851

>> No.6904872

>>6904864
you don't get it.
say disc 2 of a 3 or 4 disc set gets scratched. then you're fucked. I think it'd be better to have the whole game fucked, instead of being stuck with only part of a game working.

>> No.6904873

>>6904864
No?

>> No.6904905

>>6904872
>disc 4 gets scratched and you can never complete the game

>> No.6906463

>>6898669
As soon as you didn't used Save states or rewind features, the game counts as beaten

>> No.6906467

>>6901371
Don't get me started on my multiple tries to beat MK3 on Snes

>> No.6906614

>>6906463
there is literally nothing wrong with using save states.

>> No.6906753

>>6898610
You're delusional if you think it has anything to do with game design philosophy, especially seeing as how for some games it's only the US version that has limited continues.

>> No.6906759

Console/platform wars.
The "fight" is long over. You're free to explore whatever you want now. The whole thing started as a means to get you to be an easily manipulated brand loyalist

>> No.6906760

>>6898669
>>6898676
>>6904585
>>6904751
Cringe and seethe

>> No.6906782

>>6906463
If you want to have beaten the game in the developer's eyes, then it doesn't count as beaten.
>>6906614
This is even worse. Beating Ninja Gaiden or Castlevania with save states defeats the entire purpose.

>> No.6906783

>>6904539
Zoomer detected.
>>6904864
No? Back in the day getting a multidisc game felt like you were getting a big hunk of content for what you paid for.
>>6904872
Hey zoomer, try not grabbing the game from the bottom with with unclipped finger nails and leaving your games out in the open.

>> No.6906787

>>6906782
>the developer's eyes
Who fucking cares?
>Castlevania
So playing the easier Japanese versions then, and saving at the password screen, got it.

>> No.6906797

>>6906787
Then you'd have beaten the Japanese version of Castlevania, not the American version. There is a difference.

>> No.6906801

>>6906797
>There is a difference.
Indeed, it means you beat the real version, not the one modified to cut down on rentals.

>> No.6906826

>>6906801
You just need to git gud and stop being salty.

>> No.6906853

>>6906826
>he still thinks every "hard" overseas version of a game was done out of design and not out of profit and cost cutting
You just need to cope and stop being gay.

>> No.6907676

>>6906853
If you were gud, the differences wouldn't matter.

>> No.6907745

Being able to download thousands of dollars in ROMs in less than 10 seconds. Boy that really sucks.

>> No.6907753
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6907753

Knock-back.
Upgrade drops disappear in 3 seconds.
Often shitty perspective, so hard land jumps.
Bad ass gun shooting fewer bullets when there's more enemies on the screen and everything starts flickering

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6907976

>>6898516
Hardcore purists, especially the people who seriously claim the only way to experience the games in on original hardware.

>> No.6907980

too hard. luckily my brain has mastered technology and I savescum. no game can defeat my technology.

>> No.6908012

>>6907976
go away, heatherzoomer

>> No.6908025

>>6904859
need somewhere to put all those graphics

>> No.6908027

>>6907976
>poor
>zoomer
>low iq
Like pottery

>> No.6908030

>>6908027
Ah the classic 4chan retort
>you don't waste money like me, therefore you are poor

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>>6908030

>> No.6908037

>>6908032
And also a Wojak. Got any other tricks up your sleeve?

>> No.6908645

>>6898516
memory cards that lose saves if the battery goes flat
3d games that use digital controls
pc games that run way too fast
reversed controls such as in duke 3d on n64
unskipable intros such as in turok 2
dumb silly juvenile stories or chacter names

>>6898542
limitless continues, feels wierd having to impose self limits

>> No.6908678

>>6898516
Meta threads

>> No.6908743

>>6898516
Pit falls or spikes or games with little health. Cryptic game ending secrets too or even game ending errors when you get into the 5th and 6th gen.

Bullethell games make me mad that they even exist.

Shit games being played like movie games make me mad, sports games existing too, gta or cod real-tier games make me mad that they exist, stuff like guitar hero make me mad but rhythm heaven at least is original. Inb4 not retro, gba has a rhythm heaven.

>>6898526
That is indeed a common feel I am sure.

>> No.6908748

>>6898542
Just use cheat codes nigga, lol

>> No.6908750

>>6904751
If you buy it when it's no longer being put on the shelf, produced, then the people that made it waaay back when don't get paid.

Kill yourself capitalism enabler. Get real ethics based on logic. The people that make the games regardless of when you get a game or not get paid by the month just like everyone else too so they couldn't care less.

>> No.6908808

>>6908750
Is this how commie babies actually think?

>> No.6908858
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>>6908808
Not an argument you logic vacancy case.

They get paid back then, not now, and if you buy it used it won't matter to them as they're no longer producing and paying stock fees to stores anymore.

The games used to have 'not for resale' on them to try to force some royalties meme your type would cater to and it never took off nor will ever take off.

If society faggot enables that sort of paying royalties bullshit we'll never make new things. We'd be stagnant.

Patents are even worse as they kept things like 3d printers in the 1970s phase due to lobbyist bullshitery.

You just don't know how capitalist corruption ruins things. We could have had 1000+ star wars movies. We could have indie games now at n64 level if not for jewtendo sueing even freely made 16bit tier fanmade games. We could have had mri machines in our bathrooms by now.

Instead you've obeyed your master to the point of literal slavery, as the ancients do consider wage work slavery a thing.


If you would only pop your master's dick out of your tight asshole you could let new ideas flow into you.

>> No.6908885

>>6908858
K

>> No.6909110
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>>6908858
>not an argument
>
>reddit spacing
>
>read my bullshit
lol. no.

>> No.6909153

>>6898516
the fact that retro games went from playing old cheap game to just another money grubbing thing

>> No.6909160

eBay and people who didn't take care of their retro games.

>> No.6909238

>>6908885
>>6909110
Not an argument retards.

>> No.6909708

>>6898516
That i did not grow up with them and I have bad taste in everything.

>> No.6909948

>>6909238
Correct. Saying "Not an argument" is literally not an argument, outside reddit. You need to go back.

>> No.6909964

>>6898516
The fans

>> No.6909991

>>6908750
>>6908858
>>6908743
Do not reply to Demon autist.

>> No.6910003

>>6898516
Hoarders

>> No.6910008

>>6898516
Them all aging like shit yet I have to pretend they're good for gamer cred.

>> No.6910050

>>6898516
That image is trademarked you know. You owe the creator money now