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I remember reviewers back in 1997 saying this game was "short".

Does that make sense?

>> No.6851618

>>6851598
Depends what you compare it to.

>> No.6851626

>>6851598
it was short though you can beat it in one day easy

>> No.6851641

Maybe they meant the game play was short which they're probably right.

>> No.6851648
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>>6851598

It’s probably what a 5 hour game if you’re good (skipping over the acting)? Great game though.

Do you remember the scene with psycho mantis when you had to switch the controllers? Definitely one of the coolest characters.

>> No.6851684

>>6851598
The gameplay:cutscene ratio is off. It felt like there was more gameplay relative to cutscenes in both its predecessor (Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake) and its sequel (Metal Gear Solid 2). Shadow Moses is pretty damn tiny, you move one room forward and get 10 minutes of CODEC and/or cutscenes, and repeat. It's "short" because you feel like you've barely played a game outside of the cutscenes, even if the actual run time isn't that short.

>> No.6851695

>>6851598
It's no shorter than any Resident Evil, and I don't recall ever hearing any complaints about how you could knock those out in <3 hours.

>> No.6851726

>>6851648
you can do it without too if you die a few times the guy tells you to kill the statues in the room

>> No.6851728

>>6851684
What this is telling me is that Kojima shouldn't be allowed to have access to anything after 16-bit technology.

>> No.6851736

>>6851728
Modern Kojima is much much better in this regard. MGSV and Death Stranding are mostly all gameplay, to the point where people criticize him for gutting the story. Death Stranding is like, 10 hours of story, 90 hours of walking. I loved it, but yeah, it's divisive.

>> No.6851783

>>6851736

He’s trying to make a video game feel like a movie. I kinda like it.

>> No.6851786

>>6851598
No, the length is perfect. Most cinematic/story-heavy games now are much too long

>> No.6851801

>>6851598
I think the ~7 to 8 hour length is perfect.

>> No.6851913

>>6851648
Same as mgs4 then.

>> No.6851916

>>6851598
>MGS
>1997
Since when?

>> No.6851921

>>6851736
>Death Stranding is like, 10 hours of story, 90 hours of non gameplay
So he still can't make a game.
>>6851783
>trying to make a video game feel like a movie. I kinda like it.
Kill yourself

>> No.6852046

>>6851598
It was short on gameplay, but it was actually pretty average for PS1 games at the time. You could beat it in a single "day" (e.g: within 24 hours) if you were really into it.

>> No.6852951

I think I've beaten it in around 4h when skipping cutscenes. Though I knew what to do since I'd beaten it multiple timea before that

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>>6851695
MGS expects you to actually follow the story. Even then many gamers were already too dumb for maestro Kojima.

>> No.6853167

It is a bit of a mayor rush near the end.

>> No.6853378

>>6851598
Yes it is too short. Which is why I enjoyed Splinter Cell way better.

>> No.6853543

I’ve never heard of this game? When is it coming out?

>> No.6853630

>>6851598
>Snake, you got to make it into the base. The Derpa chief is in there, you must save the Derpa chief. You're our only hope. Talk to Naomi, Kaz, or Mei Ling if you need something. Keep us in the loop so we know what's going on. Talk to Naomi, Kaz or Mei Ling if you need something. You're our only hope. Let us know when you find the Derpa chief.
*walk from staircase to elevator(with a cutscene interrupting*
>Snake, you got to make it into the base. The Derpa chief is in there, you must save the Derpa chief. You're our only hope. Talk to Naomi, Kaz, or Mei Ling if you need something. Keep us in the loop so we know what's going on. Talk to Naomi, Kaz or Mei Ling if you need something. You're our only hope. Let us know when you find the Derpa chief.
*walk from elevator to vent(with a cutscene interrupting*
>Snake, you got to make it into the base. The Derpa chief is in there, you must save the Derpa chief. You're our only hope. Talk to Naomi, Kaz, or Mei Ling if you need something. Keep us in the loop so we know what's going on. Talk to Naomi, Kaz or Mei Ling if you need something. You're our only hope. Let us know when you find the Derpa chief.
*crawl through vent to another vent(with a cutscene interrupting*
>Snake, you got to make it deeper into the base. The Derpa chief is in there, you must save the Derpa chief. You're our only hope. Talk to Naomi, Kaz, or Mei Ling if you need something. Keep us in the loop so we know what's going on. Talk to Naomi, Kaz or Mei Ling if you need something. You're our only hope. Let us know when you find the Derpa chief.
*walk from vent to door*
>Snake, you got to make it deeper into the base. The Derpa chief is in there, you must save the Derpa chief. You're our only hope. Talk to Naomi, Kaz, or Mei Ling if you need something. Keep us in the loop so we know what's going on. Talk to Naomi, Kaz or Mei Ling if you need something. You're our only hope. Let us know when you find the Derpa chief.

>> No.6853637

>>6853630
Darpa Chief?

>> No.6853646

>>6853637
Derp-a

>> No.6853685

>>6851598
this sums up the "gameplay"
https://youtu.be/dSP_n_BIe0w

>> No.6853695

>>6851598
It makes sense that it wasn't an 80 hour time vampire jarpig with 0 respect for your time like all the other big games for the system.

>> No.6853720

>>6851921
t. didn't play the game
>HUH-DURRR WALKING SIM MEME

Except they made the walking, climbing, and river crossing fun to do, with considerations to your balance, terrain, stamina, load, and things like whether you wanna go through enemy territory or not. That said it's a little thinly stretched, but it's still better, more creative, and interesting than 95% of games to come out in the last year.

>> No.6853729

>>6851598
>Does that make sense?
IT IS SHORT you brain dead retard

>> No.6854037

>>6851598
For $40 it was short. You could easily get an RPG for that price that will take you 50 hours to beat. MGS is like 10 hours with cutscenes, and 3 hours if you skip them.

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>>6851598
It's terrible, but it's quite short...