/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.6850534]

DAMN this is some overrated boomer garbage.

[Anonymous No.6850535]

i always thought mortal kombat was more fun

[Anonymous No.6850545]

>>6850535
lore and content was cool but gameplay was atrocious

[Anonymous No.6850553]

>>6850534
nice b8 m8

[Anonymous No.6850569]

>>6850534
I played hundreds hours of this as a kid, but I agree that it's overrated. It's asinine having to hold buttons for multiple seconds to execute most of the moves. Like >>6850535 said, MK was better.

[Anonymous No.6850576]

>>6850535
>>6850569
Holy fucking samefag.
MK was absolute garbage.

[Anonymous No.6850580]

>>6850569

nigga there's 3 characters with charge moves in the roster, and you need to hold the charge for a second at most. MK on the other hand has moves that you need to hold a button press for several seconds before you can perform the move

[Anonymous No.6850596]

>>6850576
>nooooo two people cant prefer mortal kombat

[Anonymous No.6850606]

I'm not a fan of it either but literally just git gud, Super Turbo is still getting solid tourney exposure. It's one of those ageless games like Tetris or Super Mario Bros.

[Anonymous No.6850769]

>>6850534
>DAMN this is some overrated boomer garbage.

[Anonymous No.6850776]

>>6850534
I actually broke my SF2 Turbo cart in a rage in 1998 and it's the only time I've done that.
I liked Killer Instinct and Primal Rage a lot.

[Anonymous No.6850784]

>>6850596
No, two people sounds about right for Mortal Kombat.

[Anonymous No.6850871]

>>6850534
Boomers are in their late 60's/early 70's. Why would you think they'd have any interest in a game made in the mid 90's?

[Anonymous No.6850913]

>>6850534
Yes it is like most overrated stuff is. Next time try something good like SF A2. Or other Capcom games than are SF.

[Anonymous No.6850935]

>>6850913
Aren't SF. XMVsSF, MSHvsSF, MSH, CVS1 are fun.

[Anonymous No.6850963]

Overrated is an opinion. Calling it garbage is just objectively wrong and trolling.

[Anonymous No.6850972]

So nice that we went from boomer "this game is shit" threads to zoomer "this game is shit" threads

[Anonymous No.6851349]

>>6850535
How is it possible to have taste this bad
Even as a kid I knew MK played like dogshit and was only relevant for spectacle.

[Anonymous No.6851373]

>>6850534
SF2's AI is bullshit.

[Anonymous No.6851380]

>>6850913
Why Alpha 2 over Alpha 3?

[Anonymous No.6851387]

I can't get into SF2.

Fatal Fury Special suffers from similar issues.

[Anonymous No.6851393]

First fighter I think I played was the original at an arcade that just features the 8

[Anonymous No.6851424]

>>6850534
t. got filtered on fightcade

[Anonymous No.6851449]

>>6850534
>itt: fighting game scrubs who can't git gud

[Anonymous No.6851469]

>>6850545
This. I can bet that there's some very technical and good reason why some spammable domes do three times more damage at twice the range than others, but I'm not going to know that kind of nuance against the fucking CPU, so I'm gonna just grow up thinking the game is stupid and badly designed.

Specially when as a kid you figure out the hadouken or the blanka charge teach it to your friends, and like, not even you know how to counter it, so now neither of you can play the game anymore without a dumbass gentleman's agreement that is more easily solved in a fun way by playing Streets of Rage instead.

[Anonymous No.6851470]

>>6851449
This. There's a reason people still play super turbo to this day. And they still have tournaments in places like evo.

[Anonymous No.6851503]

>>6851469
>Specially when as a kid you figure out the hadouken or the blanka charge
A)experiment (how would you know unless you try things?)
B)consol port instructions (unless it was a rental and some asshole did not return with manual)
C)game magazine
D)as you say, word of mouth

[Anonymous No.6851514]

>>6851503
You completely misread his post.

[Anonymous No.6851521]

>>6851514
sorry, buddy, drinking

[Anonymous No.6851531]

>>6851514
>>6851521
but still, those were the options of learning at the time (sure i missed something like a guide book). i cant recall first game that printed movesets on an arcade machine

[Anonymous No.6851536]

It’s a lot of things, but overrated isn’t one of them.

[Anonymous No.6851541]

>>6850534
>The result of 6th gen /v/ toddlers flooding this board
Nice job mods

[Anonymous No.6851576]

>>6851503
The manual explains fuckall about approaching other characters defensively in this game.

[Anonymous No.6851587]

From best to worst
>Fighting Street (based)
>Street Fighter III New Generation
>Street Fighter EX2
>Street Fighter: The Movie (Saturn)
>Street Fighter III: 2nd Impact
>Street Fighter EX3
>Super Street Fighter II: The New Challengers
>Street Fighter Alpha
>Street Fighter EX
>Street Fighter Alpha 3
>Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike
>Super Street Fighter II Turbo
>Street Fighter Alpha 2
>Street Fighter II: Turbo
>Street Fighter II World Warrior

[Anonymous No.6851609]

>>6850535
Shit taste. I never liked Mortal Kombat. Not as a kid, not even as an edgy teen and not now as an adult.

[Anonymous No.6851616]

>>6851541
>toddler
Yet you whine a lot...

[Anonymous No.6851632]

>>6851469
You couldn't figure out how to jump over shit?

[Anonymous No.6851646]

>>6850871
>Why would you think

You've made a mistake by assuming that people who make ritualistic references to the Magical Important Named Generational Tribes ever think any thoughts about anything.

[Anonymous No.6851647]

>>6851616
It's normal for adults to get annoyed about misbehaving children amd edgy teens

[Anonymous No.6851657]

>>6850534

<—-For you

[Anonymous No.6851658]

>>6851576
i had the rental. no manual. i guess i can look it up online, but were manuals just basic controls for these games (hold away to block)?

[Anonymous No.6851673]

>>6851609

Yeah Mortal Kombat was mind-blowing for like two minutes, when you first saw it and you realized that that particular graphical gimmick was possible, while on top of that your child's brain was briefly and pleasurably overwhelmed with the endless enticing naughtiness that was promised by the first few splashes of blood you saw and maybe also by some rumor you heard about fatalities. Then you'd get past those novelties and not really need this series anymore. Actually playing the games wasn't even necessary; you just needed to look at the screen for a minute or two and fantasize about the game briefly.

[Anonymous No.6851724]

>>6851380
Not him but in the US A2 being the better game is the common opinion actually while Japan prefers A3. Ultimately I think it comes down to A2 being much easier to pick up and a lot of people's view of A3 being clouded by V-ism infinites.
>>6851387
Assuming you mean ST it's not a beginner friendly game at all. Top tiers like boxer and claw will shit stomp you repeatedly and honestly a lot of the meta comes down to counterpicks.

It has a charm though. Everyone is kind of bullshit in their own way which is fun.

[Anonymous No.6851745]

>>6851673
at least it was not time killers. oooh boy was that complete shit

[Anonymous No.6851759]

>>6851657
That's not the same game, you fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.6851802]

>>6850580
It’s 6 if you count Balrog, Vega and M. Bison.

[Anonymous No.6851820]

>>6851759

Yeah bro you’re so right bro sorry bro it’s like yo bro it isn’t like the right bro street fighter 2 bro it’s like there aren’t 100 different like editions bro you know bro?

Shit in your hands and clap tranny faggot and go suck BLM dick.

[Anonymous No.6851825]

>>6851820
You got blown the fuck out, not even your rent free tranny shitpost can undo that.

[Anonymous No.6851827]

I can effortlessly complete Vampire Savior's arcade mode on normal difficulty, but SFA3 or SF3 II/3rd hand me my ass on easy difficulty on the 5-6th stage. Is it because Darkstalkers 3 is an easier game or is it because I suck at SF personally?

[Anonymous No.6851841]

>>6851827
neither, some games have bullshit AI some have pisseasy one, it was hard to find a sweetspot

[Anonymous No.6851842]

>>6851827
The AI in Vsav isn't as bullshit. I would really say Vsav is an easier game but you can probably abuse shit like Demitri's dp and such against the AI.

[Anonymous No.6851847]

>>6851820
>people making fun of nintendo for making a switch release of sm64, sms, smg in one package and paying full price
yeesh. at the game store I remember seeing many many versions of the same game with just minor change in code (or adding extra characters) and selling it for the same price

[Anonymous No.6851884]

>>6851587
World Warrior's the best game in the series, which you listed last. And Champion Edition's second best, which you didn't list at all. The EX games suck, New Generation is the worst version of SFIII, and I don't need to tell you where you went wrong with SF:The Movie

Kill yourself

[Anonymous No.6851886]

for me, it's tekken

[Anonymous No.6851903]

>>6851884
>World Warrior's the best game in the series
Anon, I get being a contrarian makes you think you're cool and unique but there's no need to try this hard. World Warrior is terrible.

[Anonymous No.6851907]

>>6851903
wow, that webm's based. i love world warrior now

[Anonymous No.6851914]

>>6851907
Yeah, the shotos and gief are infamously bad in WW, it's pretty amusing.

[Anonymous No.6851954]

>>6851903
being kicked in the shins make me double over and shit my pants

[Anonymous No.6851958]

>>6850534
Correct. Fighting games didn't get good until Tekken 3 and MvC2.

[Anonymous No.6851986]

>>6851958
i would say fighting games got good with soul blade and mvc. add a samurai showdown whatever in that area

[Anonymous No.6851993]

>>6851958
>3d kusoge and Capcom's mugen was when the genre got good
lol

[Anonymous No.6852031]

>>6851993
This was Capcom's Mugen.

[Anonymous No.6852048]

>>6852031
Nah, this was budget CvS2. MvC2 is basically just Mugen.

[Anonymous No.6852065]

>>6852048
>budget CvS2
What the fuck are you talking about.
Capcom Fighting Evolution is a bunch of characters from different series, each with own particular art style and gameplay mechanics, all just thrown together with no attempt at cohesion whatsoever. It's literally what you get when you download some Mugen pack. MvC2 is made from recycled assets, but at least all the assets are from the same series and all the characters play by the same rules.

[Anonymous No.6852204]

>>6852065
>MvC2 is made from recycled assets, but at least all the assets are from the same series
SF Alpha, Marvel Super Heroes and Darkstalkers are not the same series.

[Anonymous No.6852342]

>>6852031
>Capcom didn't even take the time to crop the big portraits

[Anonymous No.6852372]

The World Warrior and Fatal Fury 2 are the best fighting games ever made. Simoletons will prefer the revisions or sequels with flashier graphics and gimmick mechanics.
Well, just letting you know the patrician way: Street Fighter II: The World Warrior and Fatal Fury 2. The kings of the genre.
Third strike this, mark of the wolves that, mvc this, kof that. It all started back then, bitches. SFII and FF2 respect the OGs.
Peace. Love all capcom all snk.

[Anonymous No.6852439]

>>6852372
God, you're fucking annoying. If you wanted to bait people with your shitty patricians taste you could have at least said Street Fighter II' Rainbow Edition.

[Anonymous No.6852473]

[Anonymous No.6852476]

>>6852439
Not baiting, retard

[Anonymous No.6852905]

>>6850534
Super Turbo? I mean yeah, I like the game and think it's still good but it is so jank and broken. You can argue all sf2 games are but super turbo feels like one of the most unpolished. Almost everything about Old Sagat, especially Vega, and some more busted characters that aren't coming to mind at the moment. Core mechanics like throws doing so much fucking damage are a personal distaste I get from super turbo but that isn't exactly a flaw

[Anonymous No.6852928]

>>6851657
Nice cock

[Anonymous No.6852930]

>>6851886
Same.

[Anonymous No.6853554]

>random stun
>random everything
>completely busted "balance"
And yet it's hailed as the most fundamental fighting game ever made.

[Anonymous No.6853578]

>>6851825

Ponder on that for a little bit. Retards like you think the 100 different variations of SF2 are all different games.

Let me guess you still think champion edition is different from turbo because turbo upped the speed from champion edition by 2 notches and added a blue background instead of the green one?

You’re the type of guy that takes someone’s work, fixes a typo and adds an adjective and takes credit for the work. You may also be the type of guy that likes the occasional finger in the ass.

You know how I know? You’re my kind of guy. Now go fuck yourself.

[Anonymous No.6853595]

>>6852372
See >>6851903

You don't even play competitively, your opinion is invalidated.

[Anonymous No.6853661]

>>6850576

Up until Shaolin Monks. That alone trumps all of what SF has to offer.

Then it went back to shit.

[Anonymous No.6853674]

A lot of 40 year olds ITT who can't cope with muh childhood game being shit

[Anonymous No.6853749]

>>6853554
And yet, most of these balance each other out and you do need incredible fundamentals to overcome these. It's on par with other boomer fighters.

[Anonymous No.6853752]

>>6850535
fuck street figher
fuck mortal kombat
clay fighter was the best

[Anonymous No.6853759]

>>6853554
Balance =/= Quality

Do you think any sport is "balanced"? Some teams simply have better players, games have bever been about balance. As long as it's fun and/or entertaining to watch people like it. SFI is the only balanced game in the series, do you think anyone cares when it's fucking shit?

[Anonymous No.6853910]

>>6851587
worst ranking I've ever seen. You have some horrible taste.

[Anonymous No.6853915]

>>6853595
Try to fight me using that strategy, see how it goes.

[Anonymous No.6855960]

>>6850534
It was a community experience. Street Fighter 2 was a game you played in public with strangers. You will never understand.

[Anonymous No.6856329]

>>6850776
What cart?
Super Turbo was released for the 3DO, Playstation, Sega Saturn, and later for the Dreamcast. Non-cartridge systems.
What you allegedly broke was a regular Super SF2 cart.
Not Turbo.

[Anonymous No.6856373]

>>6853759
>some teams have better players
When Old Sagat is as broken as he is, why choose anyone else? It's not like the power gap is minimal enough to just choose your favorite and get by fine. 50/50 rushdown is completely oppressive in SF2 and neither side has any incentive to slow down the pace and play footsies, compared to just playing offense and gambling on stuns. Truly the pinnacle of fighting game fundamentals.

[Anonymous No.6856381]

>>6856329
read again, he said he broke his SF2 Turbo cart, not Super Turbo

[vaginaisevil !!xBEjDksE4NW No.6856383]

>>6850535
>>6850534
Both were pretty bad. it didn't get good until marvel vs capcom 2 and then super smash brothers melee and also soul caliber games were okay

[Anonymous No.6856406]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiufDI8cBkU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL3uJVoHmig
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrcr9NaqN8c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb6VvtAcmb8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud1LrUfzrOo

So yeah.

[Anonymous No.6856421]

>>6850534
Yeah it fucking really kind of is. A bit over a decade ago I had a shitty job with a cheap-playing SF2 cabinet in the break room that I thought would be the highlight of the place.
So I gave it a really thorough shot and only confirmed that the impression I'd gotten from every brush I'd had with the game previously was accurate. It's bad, and it sucks.

>>6855960
But yeah, this though, and I think the same thing pretty much goes of all fighting games. Which in a way makes them more like a retardedly complex foozeball table than a videogame.

And, I mean, despite what this post sounds like I get it and I'd never judge em for that. There's a few I even like. But I just wonder how long it'll take for the whole genre to burn out since I'm not sure how it's possible for new blood to get into this shit since people barely do couch multiplayer anymore, let alone arcades.
Meanwhile last time I paid attention it all seemed like it was only getting further up its own ass.

[Anonymous No.6856424]

>>6852372
Yo can't love both capcom and snk fighters anon, is one or another, just like the fgc parrot to everyone

[Anonymous No.6856430]

>>6856383
>it didn't get good until marvel vs capcom 2 and then super smash brothers melee

[Anonymous No.6856446]

>You will never walk to the pizza shop with the lads and wreck the local competition while waiting for the 'za to finish cooking.
*sips* yep those were the days

[Anonymous No.6856449]

I like playing ST until I have to deal with vega, chun, boxer, sagat, sim, and dj or get hit by bison once and die.

Even hf pisses me off with cps1 chain re dizzies.

[Anonymous No.6856481]

>>6856421
Corona crushed both local scenes and tournaments. A lot of events survive year-to-year due to venue costs, and 2020 going to shit meant a lot of them have had to close up permanently. Others might take their place, but fighting games are fucked. Evo died too, which usually provides the biggest influx of new blood.

[Anonymous No.6856520]

>>6856481
Unless you all are literally 80 years old, you're not gonna die from that thing. Go have fun and don't worry about spooks.

[Anonymous No.6856531]

>>6850534
As a 10 year old in 2008, I was pretty apt at Street Fighter Champion Edition on Genesis, even getting double perfects up to the midway point, but I go to the arcades and shit now? Fuck that. The AI is just no god damn fun. The only fighting games I'm good at these days are MK 1 and 2 because there's not much tech to them at all vs. AI.

tl;dr, totally agree fuck this game.

[Anonymous No.6856541]

>>6856481
I'm not too sad about that. Sometimes the only way for something to get a real and intelligent revival is for it to go extinct for a while.
It seems like a genre that's pretty much lost touch with the reason and context for it to exist. So... good.

>>6856520
Anon wasn't putting it down to that alone... I think the point was more that it was only a matter of time and basically on life support already.

[Anonymous No.6856562]

>>6856430
not an argument

[Anonymous No.6856563]

>>6856481
my locals got ruined by trannies (sorry, "trans lesbians) and woke blacks so even if they come back I'm not going back to that shit

[Anonymous No.6856571]

>>6856373
>why choose anyone else?
Because Vega exist.

[Anonymous No.6856753]

>>6856563
I dunno man. The world is changing. Maybe by the time quarantine ends it'll be socially acceptable to use your kung fu on black transexuals at tournaments. Maybe even obligatory; it seems like it could be part of a delightful opening ceremony.

[Anonymous No.6856764]

>>6853578
>i know absolutely nothing about fighting games and i'm hoping you don't either
kek

[Anonymous No.6856791]

>>6856373
O. Sagat is actually tougher to play then he looks. Sim, Claw, Boxer, and Chun are all bettet then him honestly.

[Anonymous No.6857636]

>>6856373
Wtf? Old sagat isn't even the best character. He dumps on mid and low tiers and fucks up the balance of the game that way, but dhalsim and vega are way more fucked up.

[Anonymous No.6857651]

>>6852372
>Street Fighter II: The World Warrior
Truth

[Anonymous No.6857860]

>it’s a BO-stenched FGC fags seethe that Mortal Kombat is more fun episode

[Anonymous No.6857874]

>>6851587
SF1 is atrocious

[Anonymous No.6857887]

>>6855960

He’s probably just trolling. Different times man. These retards think they invited something new.

There is nothing new invented. Everything is just a recycling of the old on a new platform.

Twitter 200 years ago were two carrier pigeons.

[Anonymous No.6857906]

>>6850534
So you got your ass handed to you by the cheating AI / a mexican online. We've all been there, OP, keep trying you'll eventually be able to fight people.

[Anonymous No.6857913]

>>6857887
>There is nothing new invented. Everything is just a recycling of the old on a new platform.
>Twitter 200 years ago were two carrier pigeons.

Now you're just being retarded.

[Anonymous No.6857914]

>>6857860
Enjoy your joke of a series.

[Anonymous No.6857918]

>>6851587
I've seen bullshit lists but this one beats them all
Confirmed for MASSIVE noob face me online not irl see what happens

[Anonymous No.6858127]

>>6856520
Legitimately jump off a bridge.

[Anonymous No.6858141]

>fighting games went from being a comfy genre to play with people at arcades or with friends at home, to being a soulless genre for "tourneyfags"
It was fun while it lasted.

[Anonymous No.6858225]

>>6857914
I can smell the lack of shower and cum-stained Doritos bag through my screen

[Anonymous No.6858236]

>>6857860
Funny of an MK player to try and even suggest that the rest of the FGC smells worse than them, the MK section of tournaments smelled like unwashed early 2000s metal tshirts, gross unmaintained leather and the stink of 20 years of cigarettes from smoking in their moms basements.

[Anonymous No.6858446]

I like sf2 arcade best because of the additional frames and animations and I dont like the extra characters in super street fighter

[Anonymous No.6858749]

>>6850534

The real street fighter game...

[Anonymous No.6858775]

>>6858749
This and the original SF2 are the best SF games

[Anonymous No.6859091]

>>6858225
>a MKfag tries to talk down someone when his series is represented by a black gay autistic furry who can't play actual figjting games
LOL

[Anonymous No.6859234]

I like both ST and MK2 a lot

[Anonymous No.6859403]

>>6859234
Liking both is fine, it's just that MK is poorly designed in terms of competitive play.

[Anonymous No.6859408]

>>6859403
Isn't 3rd Strike the de facto "competitive" Street Fighter? Who the hell plays SF2 competitively nowadays?

[Anonymous No.6859426]

>>6859408
the arcade where i live had a sf2 turbo tournament not that long ago

[Anonymous No.6859429]

>>6859408
>de facto "competitive" Street Fighter
No such thing. Each subseries of SF plays differently enough to coexist. Both 3rd Strike and Super Turbo are as popular on Fightcade.

[Anonymous No.6859437]

>>6859408
As >>6859429 said, SF games vary quite a lot from one another, both ST and 3S see play. 3S is considerably more modern though in terms of mechanics so it attracts a lot more newcomers then ST.

[Anonymous No.6859437,1]

>>6858127
Etika moment