/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.6836889]

How come the Super Famicom had a better design than the Super Nintendo in basically every single aspect?
Console design is better in Japan
Controller design is better in Japan
Box design is better in Japan
Cartridge design is better in Japan
Why did they fuck it up in North America?

[Anonymous No.6836894]

localizers feel the need to change as much shit as possible because otherwise people would realize how fucking useless they actually are

[Anonymous No.6836896]

>>6836894
They spent millions on changing everything and making it look like shit then. These old boxes are much more beautiful compared to the black things we got.

[Anonymous No.6836902]

They weren't sure if Americans would accept Japanese design aesthetics. Weeb culture wasn't really a thing in the early 90s.

[Anonymous No.6836915]

>>6836902
Colorful thing bad according to NOA then

[Anonymous No.6836923]

This is one case where the US version looked better in every way.

[Anonymous No.6836925]

>>6836923
The US looks fucking stupid

[Anonymous No.6836929]

>>6836923
Nah it looks like a trash bin

[Anonymous No.6836932]

>>6836923
Burgerfry here. I really like the NA SNES form factor, but not the floral color scheme.
My ideal model would be SFC colors but NA SNES form factor.

[Anonymous No.6836934]

>>6836923
doesn't look bad, but no way it is better than the original

[Anonymous No.6836938]

>>6836889
Because the genesis looked "cool" and the burgers didn't want a toyful looking console due to how insecure they are. Blame Sega for shifting the gaming market to LE KEWL GROWNUP GAYMING that Sony used later on

[Anonymous No.6836942]

I can't even see the Japanese version. It's some grey blob off in the corner. I'm forced to recognize the US version. My eyes are drawn to it.

[Anonymous No.6836954]

[Anonymous No.6836957]

soul

[Anonymous No.6836960]

>>6836957

[Anonymous No.6836963]

The case design likely changed for the West due to boomers calling them "Nintendo tapes", the Japanese version looks a lot more like VHS boxes

[Anonymous No.6836968]

>VHS boxes
VCR? lmao jebus

[Anonymous No.6836967]

>>6836963
Wasn't the original NES box supposed to resemble a VHS?

[Anonymous No.6836971]

>>6836957
>>6836960
nice looking nintendo tapes

[Anonymous No.6836973]

I like the SNES jr. the best. It even takes up the least room.

[Anonymous No.6836991]

>>6836954
>Unironically using "af"
Zoomer detected

[Anonymous No.6836998]

>>6836971
thanks, the paddle looks very nice compared to the american version

[Anonymous No.6837027]

>>6836889
It didn't. First, the boxes have less brand consistency in Japan. Second, the Super Famicom is an ugly dark grey while the Super Nintendo is closer in shade to an early 90s PC. Third, the Super Famicom controller doesn't have the concave/convex button mix that makes the Super Nintendo pad a little extra comfortable.

[Anonymous No.6837036]

>>6836960
Japanese mouse used the American purple?

[Anonymous No.6837045]

>>6836889
Everything NoA did was about cutting corners, saving a buck. NoA is the worst thing to happen to Nintendo games and is wholly responsible for why I am one of the biggest anti-nintendo shitposters on this website. Fuck NoA.

[Anonymous No.6837046]

>>6837036
huh yeah that is pretty strange

[Anonymous No.6837054]

>>6837027
>oh no, boxes show game artwork instead of logos, marketing catchphrases and le seal of quality!
dumb autistic gaijin

[Anonymous No.6837062]

>>6837054
Link to the Past is inarguably a better box than the Japanese version. A lot of Square games, too, since they were weirdly into the characters just standing in a line for a lot of their Japanese games.

[Anonymous No.6837083]

I much prefer the uniform design of the SNES game boxes. The black borders are very aesthetic.

[Anonymous No.6837091]

>>6836991
How can i be a zoomer if i was born in 91

[Anonymous No.6837101]

>>6836923
Southamerican here, US version looks A LOT more SUPER, more mid-90s if you know what I mean.

JP version is SO 1989 mainstream new-wave aesthetics, which is nice also but a different beast.

I guess it makes sense according to the release date of the Famicom vs the NES. They had to jump different gaps.

[Anonymous No.6837115]

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[Anonymous No.6837160]

>>6836889
These actually look like VHS tapes. But there's one problem: SNES carts are light and these boxes can topple easily on a shelf. Unlike NTSC/PAL boxes that sit on the long side of the box.

>>6837036
>>6837046
They knew it was a niche product so that way they wouldn't have to produce two batches.

[Anonymous No.6837258]

i never understood why america got that ugly snes when europe got the japanese design

[Anonymous No.6837263]

>>6837115
don't you have a nigger to be killed by, obesity-san?

[Anonymous No.6837283]

>>6836894
>localizers feel the need to change as much shit as possible because otherwise people would realize how fucking useless they actually are
This is exactly right

[Anonymous No.6837296]

>>6837062
>Link to the Past is inarguably a better box than the Japanese version
No, there isn't a single US box that looks as good as the JP version. Even in the very rare cases that the art's better, the big black borders, proportions, and logos completely fuck them up

[Anonymous No.6837318]

I like both, got myself both NTSC models.
The carts are arguably better for the SNES in terms of design due to having end labels, but I really love the shape of the SFC carts, so...

[Anonymous No.6837321]

>>6836889
Legal issues with the design.
I be more concerned getting a 16-Bit data buss replacing the B Address Bus with a larger data bus, that way we would of got the CD add on with in 6 months after the Japanese release.

[Anonymous No.6837340]

>>6837091
Zoomers parrot all our retarded moolinnial bullshit and make it even worse, except they're not even familiar with the older, better alternatives like we are. Also born in 91.

[Anonymous No.6837863]

>>6836923
maybe if you're an ace

[Anonymous No.6838748]

>>6836967
Yes.

[Anonymous No.6839140]

>>6836894
>>6837283
I feel every industry prioritizes producivity to it's downfall, it's why every app you have installed have to have constant updates that change minute things that absolutely nobody asked for

[Anonymous No.6840153]

I'll never understand why they thought those purple buttons on the SNES pad looked better than the red green blue yellow of the SFC. Hell, it even matches the switch/yoshi/koopa troopa shell colors of their flagship launch title.

[Anonymous No.6840163]

>>6837318
I never disliked the SNES design but sadly it had a design flaw, I knew multiple people whose power/reset buttons would get flaky over time and the game would constantly reset or fail to start (not due to "cartridge dust"). To fix it we'd do things like jam toothpicks under the buttons or pile a stack of books on top to keep them wedged slightly upwards so the contacts wouldn't misfire.

I think the SFC definitely looks more reminiscent of its Japanese era though, I can't look at one without imagining playing it on a tatami floor.

[Anonymous No.6840667]

>>6839140
>i didn't want something so no other zoomie did
>rages about shit he wants in next post

[Anonymous No.6840742]

>>6840153
>I'll never understand why they thought those purple buttons on the SNES pad looked better than the red green blue yellow of the SFC.
Real reason is this: Color blind people. Which is why the NTSC controller has concave and convex buttons as well.

[Anonymous No.6840747]

>>6840742
To elaborate: In-game instructions would have to rely on the letters ABYX as opposed to color, because the purple buttons all looked the same in the American version. While some PAL games would only show the color you have to press.

[Anonymous No.6840748]

>>6840742
>Real reason is this: Color blind people
That makes no sense. It's not like color blind people would be in any way disenfranchised by the 4-color buttons. The color isn't important, it's just for visual appeal. Reducing them to 2 shades of purple doesn't help them in any way. And there's no reason why they couldn't have added the concave buttons and kept the colors.

[Anonymous No.6840768]

>>6839140
The amount of people doing useless or even detrimental busywork to try to justify their useless job is obscene. I'm hoping that The Wuhan makes the uselessness of most of people's job even more apparent to whoever's paying these retards to consume and pollute until their fat asses die

[Anonymous No.6840770]

>>6840748
If the in-game prompt shows you to tap the green button, tell me how a color blind person will know which button to press. NTSC games would have to change the button colors and the designers would then be forced to put the "Y" on the in-game prompt to be direct about which exact button you have to press. If the colors remained the same on the controllers, they wouldn't bother to make that change.

[Anonymous No.6840785]

>>6840748
>>6840742
>>6840747

[Anonymous No.6840848]

>>6840785
Screenshot on the right would work just as well with the letters on the buttons like the screenshot on the left. Changing the button colors did nothing for colorblind people.

[Anonymous No.6840867]

>>6840153
American market analysts were afraid that the round shape of the console and the colourful buttons would drive away many customers thinking it's a childish, toy like device not meant for serious gamers. Especially when the Genesis was arguably cool and dark and edgy, they just couldn't risk it.

[Anonymous No.6840873]

>>6840848
Right, which is why after the SNES every controller has the letter etched/printed onto the button itself and not on the side of it. The point is that this FORCES devs to think about the icons/prompts they put into the game. To not rely only on color.

[Anonymous No.6840902]

>>6840873
>The point is that this FORCES devs to think about the icons/prompts they put into the game
Good, fuck onscreen prompts. If you're game requires them, then you have failed as a game designer.

[Anonymous No.6841064]

>>6836889
>Why did they fuck it up in North America?
It's all marketing.

>Console design
Nintendo of America obviously thought the Super Famicom design wouldn't be appealing in the US. The final result looks more like a "toy" but this is probably what they were going for. I think they were afraid consumers would think it was some generic gray cassette tape player. The Super Nintendo design screams, "THIS IS FOR GAMES."
>Controller design
This is nitpicky, the controllers are identical. Only the coloring is different. The purple-grey color scheme was added to obviously match the new design of the console.
>Box design
The boxes are better and more compact in Japan, and even show the full art more despite being smaller. My theory was that, again, NoA was worried US consumers would be confused. They didn't want game boxes to blend in with VHS Tapes at stores. This is especially relevant since Video Store rentals were much more common in the US. So the big wide boxes were to help them stand out as not being VHS tapes.
>Cartridge design
Again, the different cartridge style was just to match the console. And of course, region protection. The smoother, rounder Super Famicom cartridges had US boxier, more square counterparts to fit the change in console designs.

[Anonymous No.6841106]

>>6837027
Everyone can tell a SFC box from a mile away, it has no definitive logo but the characteristics are too unique. Bad bait

[Anonymous No.6841112]

>>6837045
Meanwhile Sega of America killed Sega

[Anonymous No.6841115]

>>6837062
A fucking logo with those shitty ass marketing borders ruins the box over the artwork in the japanese one. You're blinded by your nostalgia

[Anonymous No.6841123]

>>6841064
So it's a case of burgers lying to burger kids about the products they consume. Thank fuck for the internet

[Anonymous No.6841472]

>>6841064
>Nintendo of America obviously thought the Super Famicom design wouldn't be appealing in the US. The final result looks more like a "toy" but this is probably what they were going for. I think they were afraid consumers would think it was some generic gray cassette tape player. The Super Nintendo design screams, "THIS IS FOR GAMES."
At that point they knew they were marketing to kids instead of the "we're not a game system but a vcr" stuff they did with NES.

[Anonymous No.6841501]

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