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Unpopular opinions thread

Outside of a couple of moments, X6 is not nearly as bad as people make it out to be.
Its also much better than X5.

>> No.682568

I agree, actually. Both of the Gate's Lab's stages are pretty ridiculous if you're using X, and Rainy Turtloid's stage is the epitome of artificial difficulty if you play it with Infinity Mijinion's nightmare effect, but otherwise it's pretty good.

I think a lot of people just like to parrot what that guy said in that minimalist X6 playthrough without realizing that the majority of his complaints are directly in relation to his own retarded limitations he puts on himself.

Although I disagree that it's better than X5, personally. I love the feeling X5 has, especially the virus stages. It was a pretty great way to end the series, and I'm kind of biased against X6 for taking that away from it, I guess.

>> No.682580
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>Dat soundtrack

>> No.682672 [DELETED] 

> let's shitpost in the guise of unpopular opinions: the thread: the movie: the game 2

>> No.682678

The things I really liked about X6 where the soundtrack and the fact that Zero was flat out RAPE once he was fully ranked up. His Z-Buster was stupidly powerful, too.

>> No.682689

How did this series go so downhill?

>> No.682703

X5 is just as flawed as X6 in my opinion. The shit that is the Blaze Heatix stage is just as bad as the retared level 96 boss re-fights in X5 and outside of doing minimalist challenges nothing in X6 is impossible. Both X5 and X6 could have had some improvements to them, including the pants on head retarded armor system of those games. Also while X4 is better than both games, it isn't immensely better nor is it the defining X game people make it out to be (in my opinion anyways). Playstation era X games are roughly the same in quality as SNES era X games.

>> No.682706

>>682689
everyone good at capcom left/got fired

>> No.682724

i like 6 more than 5, but they're both deeply flawed games.

>> No.682727
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682727

I agree with it not being nearly as terrible as most people claim, but I still like X5 overall just a bit more.

X6 does beat it on music though.

>> No.682734

I don't understand the hate for X6.

Someone explain it to me, it's literally the same thing as all other megamans.

>> No.682741
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682741

I loved megaman 8

It's actually my favorite classic megaman game

>> No.682746

>>682703
The two aren't comparable at all. First off, the donuts have one simple pattern that is insanely easy to beat, just tedious if you're for whatever reason not abusing giga attacks. The level 96 boss refights actually take a little bit of skill, pattern recognition, and reflexes to get through, and there's no way to end the fights as quickly as the donuts. It's tedious, but also takes some skill to pull off, especially Squid Adler.

Dark Dizzy can go suck a dick, though, he's worse than the donuts.

>> No.682747

>>682734
The game is rushed. This is apparent in some stages of the games (most notablely BH) and features (you are suppose to unlock Black Zero if you fight Zero Nightmare @ Level 4, only that is impossible as the game is now). As >>682568 noted Hideofbeast hates the game as it is hard to do minimal runs with and people like to parrot him.

>> No.682974

>>682267
X6 is my favorite game in the series.

>> No.683035
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>>682267
>Outside of a couple of moments, X6 is not nearly as bad as people make it out to be.
It's not terrible. The soundtrack is pretty good and it has its mome-
>Its also much better than X5.
NOPE, NOPE, NOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPE

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>>683035
Forgot to add, I really do like the Shadow Armor though. Probably much better than the Gaea Armor

>> No.683060

I'm stuck on the boss of Gate's Lab 1. I also don't like how this game introduced rescuing reploids to the series.

The control is a bit faulty, but it's still fun to control the characters, especially Zero. Also, as has been stated, the music is very good, especially Infinity Mijinion's. I once had it as my cell phone ringtone.

I think, as is the case with most games, it's a mix of good and bad.

>> No.683070

>>682267
>Outside of a couple of moments, X6 is not nearly as bad as people make it out to be.
Finally! Someone here who actually enjoys games. This might be a very good thre--

>Its also much better than X5.
11/10, raged, lost faith on everything, called internet company to cancel my contract.

>> No.683074

The shadow armor was fucking awesome. Unlock every item with gameshark at the beginning of the game and blast through it - it's pretty fun.

>> No.683078

>>683042
That's not really much of a contest though.

>> No.683083

>>682267
I think doing 100% of any game is a waste of time.

And by that I don't mean the highest weapon upgrade or anything, just that kind of stuff that happened to me the other day when I was playing FFX again and had a friend watching

>"Dude, go back, go back, you missed a chest!"
>"What's in it?"
>"a potion I think"
>"..."

>> No.683085

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJAG4SZKnn0

This was so epic when you saw Illumina appear.

>> No.683090

My unpopular opinions:

- Advance Guardian Heroes is a great sequel of Guardian Heroes.
- Rayman and Heart of Darkness are just overrated, mediocre platform games with nice graphics and animation.

>> No.683109

I don't care for the Mega Man Legends series at all. Or Rayman. Or any of the Digimon games barring the card battlan' one and the Smash Bros. rip-off.

>> No.683141

Super Mario Land is my favorite Mario game.

>> No.683157

>>683141
Me too along with Super Mario Galaxy games (before Galaxy I was never a big fan of 3D Super Mario games, expecially Sunshine which I found too fucking gay even for a Super Mario game).

>> No.683169

>>683083
I do this in Zelda games. Finish the game with only three of four bottles..missing a ton of hearts...I just don't see the point in getting every single thing

>> No.683193

>>682741
Me too, wow, I thought I was the only one.

Well my favorite is 9 but 8 is second.

>> No.683197

>>683157
>expecially Sunshine which I found too fucking gay

wow. so much homophobia. come out of the closet already

>> No.683209

>>683085
YES YES YES, the best track.

Glad to see most everyone feels about the same as I do about X5 and X6. Not a fan of Legends either, I really really don't understand why they're so popular.

Also, I still think Link's Awakening is the best Zelda game.

>> No.683220

>>682267
X6 is one of the best games in the series.

X5 and X7 are way worse.

>> No.683245
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>>682267
>Outside of a couple of moments, X6 is not nearly as bad as people make it out to be.

My nigg-

>Its also much better than X5.

Now hold on a second there nigger, X5 is the best megaman X game.

>> No.683374

>>682689

Inafune wanted to end things with X5. Capcom made it a zombie series and dragged three more games out of it.

>> No.683664

>>683060
X5 introduced rescuing reploids, but X6 made it go full retard by making them the only way to gather parts and making permanent reploid deaths force you to restart the console unless you knew beforehand that the particular reploid was useless.

>> No.684113
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This is all you need to know about how X6 is designed

>> No.684132

>unpopular opinions

I enjoyed Military Madness.
I enjoyed Toki.
I found E.V.E Search For Eden to be pretentious.
I think Gradius is just bad.
I think Thunder Force 3 is better than 4.
Megaman 2 is absolute garbage.

>> No.684173
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684173

Megaman 7 is a great game with lots of fun, secrets and collectibles.

Star Fox for SNES is a much better packaged than 64 in terms of atmosphere, music and challenge.

The Ice Cavern in OOT was way more tedious and irritating than the Water Temple.

>> No.684354

SotN is pretty boring after the first playthough, and the Inverted Castle didn't really add much to the game aside from a few nifty boss fights.

I like Megaman Zero 4 better than 3, and feel it's a better ending point for that series.

X8 is the second best Megaman X game, the varied level designs and tag team system breathe some fresh life into a series on the verge of death.

Super Ghouls N' Ghosts was too easy, even on Professional with 3 lives.

>> No.684367

>>684354
>SotN is pretty boring after the first playthough
That isn'rt really an unpopular opinion. The CV metroidvanias are just all bad in my opinion.
>Super Ghouls N' Ghosts was too easy, even on Professional with 3 lives.
Jesus what

>> No.684368

Ocarina of Time remains -- in no small part because of nostalgia -- my favorite game of all time.

I don't like JRPGs.

Metroid > Zero Mission

I wish I could own every console, and hate choosing. Console wars are stupid.

I have not yet enjoyed a Pokemon game anywhere near as much as I enjoyed Red on my chunky, beige Gameboy.

>> No.684373

Personally, I felt X5 was unmemorable as fuck.

X6 at least had memorable bosses and music.

>> No.684374

>>684368
None of these are really "unpopular" besides the JRPG thing

>> No.684378
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>>682267

X5 is my favorite X game.
MM5, MM8, and R&F are my favorite classic games.

>> No.684380

I hate the RE 1-3 games and all it's clones.

>> No.684386

>>683169
Same here.

>> No.684391

>>684374
I don't know what corners of the internet you frequent. . .

>> No.684410

I like SMB better than 3 or World

DK64 > BK, BT, Mario64

I consider Metal Gear (NES) a classic

DKC3 > DKC2

>> No.684424

>>684391
All

>> No.684442

Everyone seems to fight over whether 6 or 7 is the best in the series, but for me, it's Final Fantasy 8.

>> No.684456

>>684442
I like 5 the best, personally. No crazy shit to do if you want to min/max everyone, just master the jobs you want the skills and stats for.

>> No.684462

>>684410
>MG NES a classic
Lol

>> No.684471

>>682267
I really like X6 too, OP.

Been too long since the last time I played X5 and X6, so I can't tell you which one I enjoy more.

>> No.684476

I know a lot of people on /vr/ don't like Donkey Kong Country 3, but I fucking love it.

>> No.684508

>>682741
>Favorite classic megaman game not being R&B

Your taste and opinions are shit.

>> No.684509

>>684442
FF1 was my first RPG, got it a couple months after it was released, I've played and completed every game in the series (never played 11), and while I still enjoy the later games, the earlier ones (1,4,5,6) are generally superior in almost every way to me. that being said -

12 is my favorite of the entire series. how's that for unpopular?

>> No.684528

>>684462
until Kojima said he didn't like it, it had a much better reputation. if he would have said he loved it and preferred it to the MSX game, I think alot more people would hail it as the classic I believe it to be

>> No.684571

>>684528
Snake's Revenge was the one that got him to keep making Metal Gear games, don't forget.

That game was actually pretty neat aside from those horrible side-scrolling segments.

>> No.684612

>>684571
I liked Snakes Revenge too, but I prefer the layout and atmosphere of Metal Gear.

>> No.684625

>>682267
The main reason why X5>X6 is the level design.
Every level has to have some kind of gimmick.

>Commander Yammark
The only level that does not have some retarded gimmick
>Ground Scaravich
Does portals and those damm totems.
>Blaze Heatnix
All those boring(slighty unfair), too much hp bosses
>Blizzard Wolfang
Those ice blocks and take cover for ice blocks sections.
>Rainy Turtloid
Hp drain rain.
>Metal Shark Player
That fucking squash thing.
>Shield Sheldon
Those lasers
>Infinity Mijinion
The constant attacks from the boss(almost) the whole stage.

And if the stage is in "nightmare" mode dont even bother unless you have beaten the game before.

And dont get me started on the whole "MISSING", "LOST" thing with those nightmare monsters.

>I need to save that guy fast!
>Fuck, nightmare thing
>Better do this fast
>Pause the game to make a battle plan.
>I gotta use a special power to kill those enemies fast
>then dash between them, climb up the wall, avoid the spikes and hit that nightmare mob
>Unpause,
>Get hit while climbing the wall
>He gets infected and is LOST FOREVER SO SAY GOODBYE TO THE AWESOME POWERUP HE HAD.
>reload save

Thats why X5>X6

>> No.684634

Ocarina of Time is shit tier and gets 9000 times too much praise [spoiler/]

I don't enjoy any FF games after 6 personally, and I think 2 and 5 are the best in the series [spoiler/]

>> No.684641

the entire x series is shit

>> No.684839

>>684641
I like the first, but the rest is serious shit for weeaboo faggots

>> No.684847

X6 beats out X4 and X5 in terms of music.

>Not jamming to Blaze Heatnix while playing the stage as X without any armor and using the X Buster only
Makes the stage like 20 minutes long but it is fun. And that remix of the third Counter Hunter stage from X2 kicks so much ass.

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684853

I prefer using X over Zero, always. Something about his simple design and his gameplay always felt more compelling and challenging. Zero always felt like Easy mode to me... maybe I'm crazy.

BTW I love playing as both, I just love X's gameplay more.

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684858

anyone who prefers x6 to x4 or x5 is wearing nostalgia goggles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl6QM4hUft8&list=PL9A7DD8572486C671&index=8

>> No.684871

>>684853
No I'm with you. When I was younger I loved playing Zero, but now I always play X.

>> No.684874

>>684858
That only really matters if you're not abusing Giga Attacks.

>> No.684904
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>>684871
Glad to hear that someone else admires X. I still prefer Mega Man X over X4 or any other title, I just feel it has the best game feel overall. X4 is tasty too though.

>> No.684909

>>684634
Anyone who says "[spoiler/]" is retarded. Especially when it's out of fucking context.

>> No.684945

>>682267
>guaranteed replies

>> No.684950

>>682267
In fact, x5 is the best in the series, but megaman x fans are such nostalgiafags...

My favorite is X4 though...

>> No.684951

>>684173
more tedious than the water temple? what kind of faggot are you? the ice cavern consists of like 3 different rooms (4 if you count the heart container room) - the water temple, although not super difficult, is way more tedious (switching iron boots on/off, changing the water levels just for ONE thing, etc.

>> No.684952

>>684625
I had more run in's with Zero's Up-attack special over pits, with these guys

>K, just need to jump off this zip line to the next and double jump
>press attack while holding up
>kill one nightmare save dude
>As the screen scrolls before I die another nightmare appears and infects a guy below him while the game does the death animation

>> No.684972

>>684952
You mean how the midair up-attack is a DOWNWARD STRIKE that will probably get you killed if you try to attack while grabbing zip lines? Yeah, that was brilliant.

Also I'd probably hate this game a lot more if I had to play it on an actual PlayStation and sit through the PSX loading screen every time I reset the damn thing due to nightmare shenanegans.

>> No.686563

>>684951
I hated recollecting the blue fire and uncorking it every few minutes and sliding the giant brick around the room more than I hated anything in the Water Temple.

>> No.686584

>>684625
> Every level has to have some kind of gimmick.

This actually is one of the biggest appeal of the game.

X5 is a rehash of X4. Similar levels, but they are worse in every aspect.

Also that timing for the crash is a real bad gimmick.

>> No.686589

>>683035
X5 is shit, dude. It's the most boring X game in existence; the stages are shitty rehashes of X4's awesome stages. The music mostly fucking sucks. The game feels slow and heavy.

X5? The high point of the series? Only in Inafune's mind.

>lel X vs. Zero

Whatever. That's possibly the only not-boring part of the game.

>> No.686591

>>684972
> Also I'd probably hate this game a lot more if I had to play it on an actual PlayStation and sit through the PSX loading screen every time I reset the damn thing due to nightmare shenanegans.

Step up anon.

I finished this game without big problems. Actually I only remember one frustasting part in the last levels.

>> No.686593

>>686589
> TFW fans hate X6 because Inafune dislike it and did even worked on it.

>> No.686594

>>683109
>Smash Bros. rip-off

You mean Rumble Arena? Man, the memories...

>> No.686597

>>686589
>X5? The high point of the series? Only in Inafune's mind.
He really said this? Lol

>> No.686678

The more I remember X5 the more mad I get.

>>686589
>lel x6 has gimmicky levels
>lel x6 has annoying shit

X5 has WOW, a goddamn laboratory stage! A jungle stage! An airport stage! Final sigma is a big-ass faggot! We've never seen this before in the series! It was only in the last game which was from so long ago... Oh hey! Rehashed final bosses from previous games too!

Seriously though...

X5 has a fucking train with timed escape sequences and xboxhueg instakill drills. Also, it's on a fucking train. Just like X4. Only shit.

X5 has a fucking cart section which makes you collect fucking energy capsule things on trial and error. Didn't you just love nabbing that heart tank in X4? We heard you, and made a whole section out of that entire concept. Because we're master game designers. We also made the bestest, most awesomest shit in the game: fucking door puzzles.

X5 has a volcano stage with lava that kills you at regular intervals, which synergises just great with the annoying bitch forcibly interrupting all the fucking time.

X5 has a fucking space stage which apparently lags your console to hell or just slows down time, can't fucking tell the difference. Also makes you ride a slow-ass cart over bottomless pits as if this was fucking Mega Man 3. It also had the shitty lel invert gravity gimmick.

X5 had the fucking whale midboss bullshit, which was quite frankly even worse than X6's doughnut bosses. It's just mind-bogglingly slow and annoying.

Also, all of X5's armors are shit, except for the Falcon armor. The levels are annoying and X's weapons are generic shit. Zero's got one or two good weapons and that's it.

X5 is a shit game. It's a shitty version of X4, rendered somewhat memorable due to X vs. Zero, falcon armor and Inafune's preaching.

I'd take X6 over it any day. X5 is above only X7.

>>686593
When people who loved X4 think that X5 is the best X game and hate on X6, I have no doubt that they are retarded.

>> No.686674

I'm glad we got Super Mario Bros 2 (Doki Doki Panic) instead of the real Mario 2. That game is fun as hell. I'd say it's almost on Mario 3's level, but not quite.
I love Megaman X3's music and I love the power ups, which is why I prefer it to X2. Plus I'm not good enough to kill those faggot counter hunters.
ActRaiser was pretty boring.

>> No.686704

People thought X6 was bad?

It's amazing

>> No.686715

>Zelda series sucks in general
>Final Fantasy II (for Famicom just for clarification's sake) is not a bad game at all and can be pretty fun, shoddy story and all
>Chrono Cross is better than Chrono Trigger
>Final Fantasy VIII is not a bad game
>Dan Hibiki is severely underutilized in earlier Street Fighter Alpha games

>> No.686717

>>686704

It's mostly people who can't handle that they have to take hits at times or use weapons other than the X-Buster to succeed, ie: purists

>> No.686720

>>686715
>Chrono Cross is better than Chrono Trigger

My nigger. CC is one beautiful game.

>> No.686736

>>686720

I agree. I love the battle system. It made for a lot more strategy than most RPGs did at the time and still do. It's a shame it was bashed by people who just want to press Attack and <insert strongest spell here> over and over. But that will always make Chrono Cross a unique game.

>> No.686746

>>686736
Yeah. CC's quality fell a lot near the end though, but I forgive it for that.

It felt great walking around the beautiful environments listening to the soothing, beautiful music and just talking to people. So peaceful and immersive.

>> No.686749

>>686720
>>686736
Glad some people appreciate that game. I'm waiting for a shitstorm for saying I found it better than CT. That's usually one way to get gamers riled up.

>> No.686757

>>684858
This guy is funny and skilled as hell

Thanks for sharing

>> No.686776

>>684858

I like HideofBeast and I can respect him, but I think that he's kind of wrong here. Just because the game gives you the option to play buster only no weapons no anything doesn't mean that it's designed to do exactly that. X6 was designed for people to use weapons and armors just like the other games were but to a further extent.

X4 is still my favourite but I can accept his reasoning as to why he thinks X is best

>> No.686783

>>686776
I agree.

>> No.686817

>>682580
>first level
>all of my cum

>> No.686818

>>682689
it simply BUBUBUBUBUBURRRN TO THE GRRROUND.

>> No.687275

>final fantasy 4 is the worst inr the retro series, it offers no character customization
>final fantasy 2 and 5 are very underrated
>breath of fire 2 and Lufia 2 are among the best jrpgs ever

>> No.688041

>>683090
Never played the latter two games, but really agreed on Advance Guardian Heroes. Course, Beat-em-ups in the PS2/GBA era in general were really given an unfair shake.

Own proposals:
>Battle Heat for the PC-FX is underrated, and it's actually a lot easier to figure out than it looks.
>The difference in quality between PC-Engine CD Dracula X and SNES/SFC Dracula XX is greatly exaggerated by the fanbase. They're a lot more similar than some like to admit. Also the SFC version of the soundtrack is superior, the dance arranges the PCE-CD version lack any arcade umph.
>Koji Kondo's musical expertise is exaggerated and it's frustrating that few games remix Zelda 2, Mario Land, or most other early Nintendo games he just happened to not compose the music for.

>> No.688105

i hated soul reaver's cliffhanger ending so much i felt like i wasted my time
it's the same reason i haven't played shenmue yet

>> No.688176

>>682741
Mah nigga me too
also
for me X6>X5

>> No.688236

>>682747
> (you are suppose to unlock Black Zero if you fight Zero Nightmare @ Level 4, only that is impossible as the game is now)

What?

>> No.688242

>>684858
>>686776
Wait. Someone played with the normal X?

Lol

>> No.688276

Huh, no one posted this yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa-Qz-n6320

>> No.688279

I really don't like Megaman X and think Megaman Classic is superior.

>> No.688597

>>684113
Damn, I got stuck on this boss and decided that the Megaman X series ended with X5.

>> No.688637

Why is it always IS X6 BETTER THAN X5!?

Can't we just agree that both games were okay and reserve our hate for the real shitfest in our midst, X3?

>> No.688641

Why is everyone referencing this Hideofbeast guy with a minimalist run? Come on, people. Here's a way better explanation of why X6 is bad. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa-Qz-n6320

>> No.688741

>>688641

Looks, let's see, one, two, three, three posts up boyo

>> No.688771
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Mega Man 4 is the worst NES Mega Man (the original gets away with being the pioneering title) and doesn't really pick up until you reach Dr. Cossack's Citadel. Also hast the most forgettable music along with 6.

>> No.688816

>>688771

I will actually cut you

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>>688816

>> No.688842

>>688236
Boss levels are directly tied to the number of nightmare souls you collect, but in order to fight bosses at level 4, you have have to collect enough nightmare souls to unlock Gate's Lab, which makes Zero completely unavailable.

I think.

>> No.688886

>>688276
I love it when people try so hard to complain about something that they end up making completely retarded statements.

>"I hid myself to repair myself"
>WHAT!? What does that even mean?

Poorly worded, yes, difficult to understand, no.

>> No.688898

>>688771
>6
>forgettable music
So did you go deaf shortly before playing it, or what?

>> No.688923

>>688898
I don't remember and can't hum a single tune from it, but can do it for the other 5 Nes Mega Man's including 4 which has a forgettable soundtrack for the most part.
That being said, having the worst soundtrack of the first six does not mean it has a bad soundtrack.

>> No.688935

>>688923
For me it'd be X5>X6>X1>X4>X2>X3.

But you know, opinions and whatnot.

>> No.688942

>>688935
You know we're talking original NES Mega Mans, right?

>> No.688949

Every generation will always have its group of people who will vehemently dislike other generations' concepts, ideas or materials.
All of this is relative; video games are different every generation, not worse.
I don't care what game you play be it Call of Duty or some obscure hardcore 90s game.
Just have fun and don't be a twat.

>> No.688953

>>688105
Did you play Soul Reaver 2? As much as I hate how obviously rushed the latter portion of the game was, I like how the series ended up compared to the original vision.

Still, the sheer ambition of the game in its original vision is pretty impressive. I would love to play it fully realized as a sort of "what if" side-story.

>> No.688956

>>688942
You'll have to excuse me, I apparently have problems reading.

>> No.688970

>>684858

>plays with retarded limitations
>complains about it being retarded

I don't like X6 all that much but come on

>> No.689097

>>684858
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Gs9_7_Oy3w
>Fuck, I'd say this game is more horribly designed than Sonic 06.

The fact that people really think X6 was that awful simply because one faggot whines about everything that makes his precious minimalist speedruns difficult cause MUH UNARMORED X just really grinds my gears.

There are a lot of instances of bad design. The entire game isn't a fucking travesty because you died a lot, though.

>> No.689215

>>686678
I agree with most of this. I disliked a whole lot of X5. I don't hate the game, but there were so many parts I wish I could just flat out skip.

They were either boring as hell, unnecessarily frustrating, or needlessly drawn-out to extend game time. The whole Guns n Roses schtick made the boss names sound silly to the point you couldn't take them seriously (and in a Mega Man game that's saying something), the weapon mechanics were uncreative, and god DAMN did I hate a game as fast-paced and action-oriented as Mega Man X be hard stopped so some bitch can tell me something I probably could figure out in the following two seconds.

It all made for a terribly mediocre game from which I could say I only got my money's worth and not a cent more. And seeing as how I only paid $15 for way back when, that's well below the amount of enjoyment X1-X4 gave me.

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People who still play WoW are the cancer that is killing PC games today.

>> No.689334

>>689330
When you say something like that, you have to explain why you think that, otherwise it sounds like you're just saying "I don't like this game, so people who do like it are cancer"

>> No.689336

>>689330
So retro, bro

>>>/v/

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>>689334
>>689336
Many MMO's attempt to (and fail) copy the success that is WoW.

What's there to like? Cartoony graphics? Achievements? Flavor of the month PVP?

WoW came out in 2004 (or maybe 3?), so its almost 10 years old and nothing has come along yet to beat it in sales and numbers.

Since its userbase won't accept anything less than what's currently given to them, the MMO CG community is stagnant and we won't see the next big thing until this horse is finally put to stud.

>> No.689397

Ocarina of Time is not really a good game

The n64 in general didn't have that good of a game selection

>> No.689412

>>689397
>doesn't know the difference between shitty and unpopular

>> No.689421

Zelda 2 was a horrible game. I hated the side scrolling.

FF 5 and 6 were too slow at the start and I gave up on them. I just couldn't get into them. FF 1,4,7 was great for me.

I think Mario land was better than Mario 3

Castlevania SOTN is better than Super Metroid.

>> No.689435

>>689373
>>>/v/
this has nothing to do with retro

>> No.689493

>>689412
Those 2 things seem pretty popular to me. I just don't agree that they're good

>> No.689502

>>688637
>>688935

>X3
>bad

That one's actually my favorite of the X games. Sure Zero was mostly useless once X got all his crap together, but he was mostly there to help out in a jam, which is why they don't let you rely on him the entire level.

Being able to summon different kinds of walkers was also neat, even if one of them was rather gimmicky.

No one in their right mind would go for one of the pink capsules though, once they knew about the gold armor.

>> No.689545

>Ecco The Dolphin isn't fun
>Myst is all but unplayable with the advent of guides
>All games pre-NES are shit
>I only collect games that I nostalgia over, otherwise I emulate before buying
>I don't get why DOOM is so big around here, it's awkward and not fun. Maybe I'm doing it wrong by not having nostalgia or just playing the BFG console release, but it's clunky and not fun

>> No.689562

>>689545
>All games pre-NES are shit
Are we talking console games pre-NES or computer games?

>> No.689565

>>689502

X3 was just mediocre. X6 at least was hard, and X5 had it's moments.

X3 was basically X2 only not as well tuned and not as fun to run through.

That said, my favorite X game is probably X4- I like how it plays, and being able to play Zero also makes it more replayable for me. I like both characters, and having a more distinct playstyle for a second character makes me more likely to replay it.

That said? I generally prefer the classic series. I can't comment on the Zero series, because I haven't actually played them yet.

>> No.689582

>>682267

Brofist, OP. I started replaying X5 for the first time in forever a little while back and it's more or less as I remember it; okay. Definitely one of the less impressive X games. It's no X1 or X4 by any means, but at least X6 is distinctive in its bullshit difficulty. X5's distinctive feature is some end of the world timer that doesn't even matter since they give you 16 chances to clear 8 levels. X5 Falcon Armor is pretty beast though, I'll give it that.

>> No.689603

Sega Saturn is my favorite video game system.

The games, the 3D controller, everything about it. It's just there perfect game system for me.

>> No.689607

>>689562
Anything that wasn't on physically inside of an arcade, including ports.

>> No.689614 [DELETED] 

>>689607
Uh huh. And just how many pre-NES games have you actually played? Keeping in mind that you're talking to someone who is extremely knowledgeable about gaming history.

>> No.689620

>>689607
You're going to tell me that of all the games on Atari 800s, Apple IIs, C64s, PCs, Colecovisions, etc, there was not a single good one.

>> No.689839

>>689582
X5 is redeemed really only by its awesome OST and for having, imo, the best final stages in the series. The 8 boss stages are largely unmemorable for me, though.

>> No.689864

>>689839
I found X5's OST not that impressive. Good, but not that much.
Honestly, i didn't like how most of the soundtracks in the three PS games were filled with lousy synthesizers. It was too weird for me.
Maybe i was too accustomed to the SNES' sounds.

X6>X5>X4 soundwise.

>> No.689894

>>688105
I thought that ending was great.
As a matter of fact, i saw Soul Reaver as a whole very fulfilling because of the things you do; You kill your brothers, find a lot of nifty things that are not critical, but very helpful, the puzzles and platforming was good, even when frustrating at times, you roam around the ruinds of Nosgoth, finding new paths as you gain abilities... I didn't even think about how the ending was until now.

>>688953
>Absorbing Kain and Ariel into the Reaver
>Those unused areas.
>Those things left as only background, like vampires modyfing the environment to live better under the day.

The first ideas were amazing, but as you say, it's better how it spawned other games to extend the storytelling.
The only thing i have against the sequels made by Eidos is how the gameplay was slowly taking other directions; the roaming and platforming changing into a more straightfoward and almost like a beat-em-up wasn't my thing.

>> No.689980

>>688276
>Clement

God I hate that faggot. So obnoxious. Can't believe I even sat through his Sonic '06 review. 4 hours just to say something everyone else knows. "The game is shit"

>> No.690019

>playing X5 as Zero
>The Skiver's weapon makes slash dash cancelling impossible

>playing X6 as Zero
>Rainy Turtloid's weapon makes slash dash cancelling obsolete

That's a good opinion you have, OP.

>> No.691425

>>689894

I just wish they'd finish the damned series.

>> No.691463

>>690019
> Caring about glitchs

>> No.691673
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is much better MEGAMAN X4

>> No.692135

>>691463
>glitch
It's an exploit.

>> No.692382

>>692135
>being this much of a pedantic fuck

>> No.692405

X4 was the beginning of the end, X5 was worse, besides its difficulty X6 was pretty good, X7 and X8 were completely atrocious.

Command Mission was actually really good

>> No.692504

>>692405
x8 are not so bad, I like that you can buy items, like old megaman

>> No.692521

>>692504
It has the worst controls aside from X7, you have to grind metals for parts, it still has shitty awful gimmick 3D levels (Gigavolt's stage is the absollute worst rail shooter I've ever played in my entire life), and really bland design otherwise.

The only reason it gets a pass is because it wasn't X7.

In my opinion.

>> No.693227

>>692521
Indeed I hate those vehicle stages as well. They're just boring. The other stages are pretty good though. The metal bullshit can be overcome on PS2 by using the glitch but it doesn't work on the PC version unfortunately. Back then I solved the problem by simply playing the game many times, but nowadays I don't have as much time.

Oh and the soundtrack is 10/10 X6-tier

>> No.693254

Nightmare System

>> No.693298

X1 > X2 = X4 > X5 > X8 > X3 > X7 > complete and utter shit > X6

>> No.693313

>>693298
Explain how X6 in any way deserves to be rated below X7.

>> No.693317

>>693298
Fuck off retard. Your opinion is shit.

>> No.693321

>>693313
X7 is borderline playable, and has a plotline that someone spent more than 5 minutes on.

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This is the best NES Megaman

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>>693324
Anon, you posted the wrong picture

>> No.693371

>>688771
I agree. 4 is just...bad.
The Robot Master levels are so annoying to get through

>> No.693378

>>689421
2/4

>> No.693379

>>693371
>most forgettable music along with 6
Plant Man's theme

>> No.693380

Unpopular opinions?

I love the Genesis-era Shining series... except for Shining Force 2.
I enjoy playing FFVIII.
I could not get into FFIX no matter how much I tried and how badly I wanted to like it.
I sneer whenever someone mains a shotoclone in a Street Fighter game.
I think Sonic 2 was the best Sonic.
I don't like any of the 3D Zelda titles.
I like X1 and X3 better than X2. Probably for the more memorable music in both of them, TBH.
I love Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine.
Genesis>SNES(but I DO like SNES games)
Genesis Aladdin>SNES Aladdin
I Like Game Grumps, even if they are terribad at gaming and talking at the same time, and even worse at clearly explaining their opinions.

I think this should suffice. As I think of more, I'll add some.

>> No.693395

>>693321
How is X6 not playable?

>> No.693402

>>693324
that's the second best for sure.
5 gets huge points for having fun as shit stages and bosses.
might as well give my rating on 1-6

5>3>2>6>1>>>>>4

>> No.693401

>>693380
>I think Sonic 2 was the best Sonic

get your ass fucked you fucking faggot

>> No.693405

>>693395
see >>693254

>> No.693414

>>693380
My exception to the more memorable music clause is the first X-Hunter Stage theme. That tune rocked.

>>693401
The thread WAS for unpopular opinions. I don't think Sonic 3/Knuckles are BAD by any means; I love them. I just enjoyed 2 more.

>> No.693416

>>693402
You idiot, it's
3>2>9>1>10>4>6>7>8>5

>> No.693417

I hate turn based JRPGS. Never played one that I liked.

>> No.693428

I like arbitrary save points and random battles.

>> No.693423

>>693417
Name all of them that you've played

>> No.693426

>>693416
Why does everyone hate 5 so much? I don't get it, I really don't.

>> No.693447

>>693426
The music tends to be grinding and irritating, the stages, while sometimes having cool gimmicks, are bland when it comes to actual design, while it graphically looks better than 1-4, that's a standard for the series, none of the weapons are really that useful compared to your buster, and Protoman's fortress is just retarded.

>> No.693459

>>693423
Some of the FF games, including 6,7,8
Skies of Arcadia
Paper Mario (n64)
Earthbound
Granida 2
Quest 64

Prob some more too but I don't remember because I didn't care. Some of this I just stopped playing because I lost interest halfway through, Skies of Arcadia and Earthbound to name a few.

I kinda wanna try Chrono Trigger but I'm afraid I'll just hate that one too.

It's just not my cup of tea I guess. I can totally see why people like them but it's not for me.

>> No.693465

I don't use weapons in MM games on my first run of the levels, except when forced to or during the refights.

I find that I learn how to fight the bosses better if I don't weakness spam.

>> No.693473

>>693447
>opinions
I dunno, I really think the stages in 5 are really fun, and the bosses are fun too and have really cool patterns that feels good to master.

I love doing buster-only runs on 5.

Again, remember, this is the Megaman I played the most when I was growing up.

>> No.693505

I liked the Genesis controller.

>> No.693532

>>693473
Their patterns don't really take much to master, they're about as complicated as 1 and 2's, and by this point, most of the robot masters had alot more varied attacks.
The majority of them do some variant of jumping and shooting without any real substance.

>> No.693564

I like the Shining series, and I like Langrisser 1 and 2, but I don;t like any of the Fire Emblem games.

>> No.693570

I like FFTA more than FFT

>> No.693608

I don't enjoy any of the post-snes Mario titles.
I didn't enjoy SMRPG.
I love Metroidvania titles, but I don't like Metroid.
I think Links Awakening is the best Zelda game.
The Legend of Dragoon was okay.

>> No.693704

>>693405
If the nightmare system alone made X6 unplayable for you, then I'm sorry, but you really suck at video games.

>> No.693743

>>693704
X6 haters as a whole suck at video games.

>> No.693751

>>693459

>I kinda wanna try Chrono Trigger but I'm afraid I'll just hate that one too.

Chances are you won't and that you're in for one of the greatest rpgs of all time.

>> No.693759

>>693459
Well, Chrono Trigger lets you avoid battles if that was one of the things that was hindering your enjoyment. Other than that it really just has god-tier music and good atmosphere. I'd give it a try, but if you really haven't found a JRPG you like yet, I wouldn't get my hopes up.

Vagrant Story might win your love, though.

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>>693759

>talking people out of trying Chrono

Really? I mean really now?

>> No.693795

Why does every thread that ever mentions Mega Man X end up being an X5 vs X6 shitfest? Seriously guys?

>> No.693804

>>693792
I said to give it a try.

>> No.693825

>>693704
Because if you don't enjoy metric fucktons of completely batshit random bullshit, that means you suck at video games. right.

>> No.693839
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>X6 was my first Mega Man game.
>My first complete playthrough was with Black Armor Zero.
>I used the cheat code to get it.

I'm not ashamed to admit this, because back when I was a younger thing, I just cared about having fun. The difficulty becomes manageable when you have him and he's really fun to play and power up. I can understand how some parts would be a little more frustrating with X, but I think if you've never played X6 and want to give it a shot, try using Black Armor Zero from the start. Then if you like it and feel like a challenge, play it again as X. Yeah it's the mistake child game that shouldn't have been, but it's got the best music and can be fun if you don't be a bitch about it.

>> No.693852

>>693839
How does one get zero as soon as possible in X6 while also ensuring he gets every power up related to reploids?

>> No.693860

>Donkey Kong 64 is the most fun I have ever had with a platformer other than Mario 64

>I recently tried replaying chrono trigger and quit alround Zeal out of sheer boredom

>resident evil 4 is absolutely indisputably the best resident evil, and one of the best games of all time

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>>693860

>Donkey Kong 64 is fun
>chrono trigger and quit alround Zeal out of sheer boredom

>> No.693897

>>693860
Do you even Banjo-Kazooie?

>> No.693902

>>693825
The nightmare effects aren't random, you control which ones affect which levels if you're paying attention even the slightest bit. Of the nightmare effects, only Blaze Heatnix's can be considered random since the meteors do fall in random order.

Nightmares themselves are located in specific spots except in Ground Scaravich's level, which is based entirely around the random gimmick.

That's not a "metric fuckton" of random bullshit, that's a handful and a stage. So yes, you do suck at video games.

>> No.693914

>>693902
I'm talking about the entire thing, and how it randomly chooses different stages, making some of them near impossible because of their shitty design. Not to mention that if some stages get hit by nightmare, it becomes almost impossible to rescue some reploids, and guess what, if the wrong reploid gets killed, the rest of the game is completely pointless and almost impossible, again because of the shitty design.
hating a game due to lazy amounts of fake difficulty doesn't mean your bad at games, it means the game itself is godawful

>> No.693952

>>693914
>how it randomly chooses different stages
What the fuck are you talking about?

>making some of them near impossible because of their shitty design
Except there isn't a single stage in the game that is near impossible? If you think any stage is near impossible, again, you're just bad at video games.

>Not to mention that if some stages get hit by nightmare, it becomes almost impossible to rescue some reploids
That is a valid complaint, but again, the nightmare effects are in your control. There are two nightmare effects for each stage for a reason.

>if the wrong reploid gets killed, the rest of the game is completely pointless and almost impossible
Good thing Zero is there since it's entirely possible to beat the game with him completely part-less.

>fake difficulty
Oh boy, here we go. The only fake difficulty comes from the spotlight nightmare effect, which is shit. Everything else, however lazy, isn't "fake difficulty", but the fact that you're even using that term makes it pretty goddamn obvious that you have no idea what it means and are just using it because you don't want to admit that you're just awful at the game.

Don't worry, I'm sure you'll be able to beat it someday if you practice enough.

>> No.693974

>>693459
Try Panzer Dragoon Saga.

>> No.693984

>>693952

Ground Scaravich is possibly the worst level in a Mega Man game.

That level is unambiguously terribly designed, the gimmick is obnoxious, and it's just unfun.

And have fun claiming GET GUD, cause I've beaten the game on Extreme and I fucking cringe whenever I get to doing Ground Scaravich's stage.

The only one that might be worse is Blaze Heatnix's marathon of tedium. It's not even hard, it's just boring.

I usually just out and out skip their levels, not like their weapons are worth shit anyway.

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>>693984
>skipping zero's fire sword

>> No.694001

>>693992

Sorry, I prefer not to torture myself by playing shitty levels.

>> No.694002

>>693984
HideofBeast, please.

>> No.694010

>>693952
>What the fuck are you talking about?
Play the game again

>there isn't a single stage in the game that is near impossible
With nightmare, most of the stages become near impossible, some more than others.

>the nightmare effects are in your control
No.
No they're not.
Nothing in X6 is in your control, from the nightmare system, to the fact that it's entirely possible to never be able to get some upgrades, due most of them random bullshit hoops to jump through.

>Good thing Zero is there
So it's either 'play the game on mindlessly easy mode', or 'play a game that is nearly impossible due to being a rushed piece of shit'

> The only fake difficulty comes from the spotlight nightmare effect
Aaaand from the spikes put everywhere with no regards to actual level designs, the jumping 'puzzles' that are basically 'have the upgrade or die', and the complete and utter bullshit minibosses. And far far far more.

I'm sure you'll be able to beat it someday
I've beaten it, I've beaten it three separate times.

>> No.694006

>>694001
You know the nightmare snakes are almost a one-hit kill with giga attacks, right? It's one of the shortest levels in the game if you're not retarded.

>> No.694018

>>694002

I've held these opinions since before I saw his speedrun.

I generally only end up doing Blaze and Scaravich if I'm doing an X run so I can get the items and weapons needed for items. I'm not so crazy as to unarmored run this shit.

>>694006

Wow, so I get the choice between a short shitty level and a long shitty level!

I think I prefer to pick neither.

'YOU CAN MAKE THE SHITTY LEVEL SHORTER!' does not remove the complaint of it being a shitty level.

>> No.694021

>>694001
Please continue to suck infinitely at easy video games.

>> No.694025

>>694010
>>693984
This
Also
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa-Qz-n6320

>> No.694028

>>694025
Jesus fucking christ stop posting this guy's fucking videos already

>> No.694031

>>694025

Seriously, it's been posted three times in this thread alone.

Form your own opinions.

>> No.694034

>>694010
>No they're not.
Wow. You literally have no fucking clue what you're talking about. When you enter and exit a stage, its nightmare effect will take effect in whatever stages it affects. This will overwrite another nightmare effect in that stage if there is one. That's how you control the nightmare effects.

Did you not play the game or were you too busy getting mad at the game for retarded reasons to notice it?

>> No.694036

>>694031
>Form your own opinions
>waaah, someone else said it so it's not true

>> No.694042

>>694034
Except none of the nightmare effects are any better than the others, they're all completely retarded.
It's a choice between eating dog shit and pig shit.

>> No.694043

>>694036

Look, I even sorta agree with the guy, but it's been posted three times in this thread alone. There's no need for it to be posted again.

Maybe 'read the thread' would have been better phrasing?

>> No.694047

>>694043
It obviously needed to be posted again, because there's still people defending it.

>> No.694051

>>694042
X/Zero clones that are insanely easy to dodge vs. a filter on the screen that makes the majority of the screen black or fireballs falling from the sky with no discrenable pattern.

Hmmmmmm.

>> No.694058

>>694047

Perhaps you should read the thread again. /vr/ is supposed to be of a higher caliber than /v/. Reposting the same thing over and over is boring and pointless

>> No.694059

>>694051
X/Zero clones that show up in stages without the nightmare

>> No.694078

>>694047

Look, I somewhat agree with him, and I'm not saying X6 is perfect- I would put it sharing the number 4 slot with X5 as far as X games go behind X2, X, and X4- but it had it's merits and it definitely could have been a good game had more time been invested in it.

That said, X6 has some terrible levels- Scaravich, Heatnix, and Shield Sheldon being the worst offenders- but it also had some good stages like Blizzard Wolfang and Metal Shark Player.

X6 is not a bad game- it's just unpolished and should never have been released in such a state.

I'm not including X7 or X8 due to not retro and their being entirely seperate shitstorms.

>> No.694080

>>694047
Of course we defend it. Fucking crybabies keep moaning over a nice enough game. X5 is the shittiest of the series and somehow you brainwashed retards don't see that.

Also, that video you posted was a perfect example of someone sucking at X6. There were so many situations where something slowly ran at him and he just sat there and got hit. I bet you little bitches are all like that. Lel I got hit, it's a bad game.

For someone who talked about "reaction time" and "real skills" in his other videos, he sure lacked them.

>> No.694104

>>694078
>it had it's merits
It... just doesn't. the best parts of it were average at best, and it's very few aspects of it that are.

>> No.695051

>>694104
He's talking about X6, not X7

>> No.695075

>>693852
I generally go to Infinity Mijinion's stage immediately since you can easily get to Zero with even Unarmoured X

>> No.695079

can we all just agree that X5 and X6 were both shit?

>> No.695169

I... I like MMX8...

>> No.695296

Unpopular opinions?

Ok

Chrono Trigger wasn't that good. It did never impress me as much as DQV did, and I played the latter 5 years after playing CT. So it's not a nostalgia thing.

ALTTP has some really boring ass dungeons.

I enjoyed Tomba 2 as much as I enjoyed 1.

Pokemon Silver was the best Pokemon game, even if Kanto is silly

>> No.695318

>>695079
X5 yes, X6 no.

>> No.695320

X6, the game where you basically are forced to die and get hit to get upgrades and rescue faggots with names that don't make any sense at all

It's better than X7, I'll give you that. But I personally think everything that comes out of my ass is better than X7.

>> No.695323

>>695296
>Pokemon Silver was the best Pokemon game, even if Kanto is silly

I'm not sure this is a terribly unpopular opinion.

>> No.695327

>>695320
>X6, the game where you basically are forced to die and get hit to get upgrades

Only if you suck.

>and rescue faggots with names that don't make any sense at all

Sure, let's make up 128 meaningful names for characters with zero personality whatsoever who only exist to get rescued and never seen again.

>> No.695329

>>695323
Oh believe me most people think it's a retarded gen overall.

Same as 4th gen, I also loved it, but everyone hates it. Everyone's like 3rd or 5th gen.

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695332

Battletoads is a pile of shit and resellers jack up the prices on "rare" Rare games every time somebody fails to remember its much better spinoff (pic related).

>Fuck actual difficulty, memorize a bullshit OHKO obstacle course

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I really like N64 graphics. I think most people who dislike it just had shit games or are somehow conjuring up pic related when they think about how N64 games looked.

>> No.695341

>>695329
Hm, I've yet to meet anyone who thinks 3rd gen was a high point - in my experience people tend to hate Ruby and Sapphire, and just accept Emerald as a decent game.

Personally, I had the most fun in 1st gen, but I do enjoy and appreciate the many small tweaks 2nd gen made, like exp bars, better inventory/PC system, two new elements to balance out Psychic, breeding, etc.. That said, they also introduced a lot of things I thought the series could do without, like day/night mechanics, happiness-based evolutions, the roaming legendaries, etc.

>> No.695342

>>695327
>Only if you suck.

No, there are definitely places where you can't just go back to the surface or get hit by spikes. Stop that shit.

>Sure, let's make up 128 meaningful names for characters with zero personality whatsoever who only exist to get rescued and never seen again.

Have you heard about random name generators? Those existed back then. Fuck, how difficult is it? 128 is a tiny number of names, you can just fucking get a list of north american names any fucking where even without internet, and pick them at random. Instead they gave the name FFF to a thing on PURPOSE.

>> No.695349

Everyone thinks X3 is easy but I had a much easier time with X2 and X1.

>> No.695351

>>695332
This game had the best title track ever:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BazmPJFqhKk Genesis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13ML-UoHwCk SNES

Both are amazing, though I prefer the SNES version slightly for the extra instruments and the buildup.

>> No.695356

>>695342
>No, there are definitely places where you can't just go back to the surface or get hit by spikes. Stop that shit.

For instance?

>Have you heard about random name generators? Those existed back then. Fuck, how difficult is it? 128 is a tiny number of names, you can just fucking get a list of north american names any fucking where even without internet, and pick them at random. Instead they gave the name FFF to a thing on PURPOSE.

A) You're assuming there's any good reason they should
2) Why would a Japanese game maker pull up a list of North American names?

>> No.695365

>>695342
>No, there are definitely places where you can't just go back to the surface or get hit by spikes. Stop that shit.

Bullshit, I played the game a couple weeks ago. There was one. And it was only if you were hell-bent on getting it with Zero.

>> No.695368

>>695356
>2) Why would a Japanese game maker pull up a list of North American names?

You seem to be implying that people haven't gone to more effort to localize games before.

http://tcrf.net/Category:Games_with_regional_differences

>> No.695372

>>695356
Honestly even if it were japanese names it would be fine. But most of them didn't even make any sense in that regard.

>> No.695380

>>695365
The Repliroid in Turtloid's stage before the armour part?

>> No.695383

>>695368
Can't speak on localizations, never played 'em for Rock titles.

>>695372
I'm still not seeing why they need to be "proper" names in the first place. They're bloody extras, they may as well be items themselves.

>> No.695387

>>695380
You can do that without dying, even with Zero. It would be hard as fuck and completely pointless, but it's not impossible.

>> No.695391

>>695387
Hm, can't think of any other point he'd be talking about then.

>> No.695393

>>695387
Wait, you are talking about the part at the end of the stage with the spiked holes right? I can't think of anything else in that stage that is difficult to get.

>> No.695398

>>695383
It's a good detail, putting random stuff that doesn't make any sense in your game if you're not selling it is completely fine, but people paid for it.

It doesn't even take any effort at all. Hell, why give them names in the first place? They could just put a counter and that would have made more sense, and they would be wasting time. But they probably thought "let's put names on these asshats (some of them could even save themselves) as a small detail" except they did it completely wrong.

>> No.695402

>>684858
>anyone who prefers x6 to x4 or x5 is wearing nostalgia goggles.

>Anyone who prefers the game that came out later over games that came out early is suffering from nostalgia

Wut

>> No.695413

>>695391
Do you mean to ask what item forces you to die if you get it with Zero? The reploid in the portal area in Blizzard Wolfang's stage across the very long spike pit. You have to get a falling rock on-screen in the upper part of the area then quickly move to the lower area, get hit by it, then dash across the pit. You cannot make a return trip. Again, only necessary if you absolutely want to do it with Zero.

>> No.695420

>>695413
Infinity Mijinion substage 100% is pretty much that if you do it -without- zero

>> No.695424

>>695413
Now that I think about it, even this you can do this without dying. Just exit the stage if you've already cleared that area.

>> No.695427

Can we all agree that the only genuine good megaman games are X1, X2 and X4?

>> No.695425

>>689215
>The whole Guns n Roses schtick made the boss names sound silly

Blame America for that. Here's the original boss names

Crescent Grizzly
Volt Kraken
Shining Hotarunicus (Hotaru = Firefly)
Tidal Makkoeen (not sure exactly what the latter half of his name is going for)
Spiral Pegasion
Spike Rosered
Dark Necrobat
Burn Dinorex

>> No.695428

>>695420
It's bullshit, sure. But it's not true to say it's impossible though.

I don't understand why people wouldn't be more bothered by X5 on matters like this. You can't even get some shit with Zero at all.

>> No.695429

>>695420
Pretty easy with the Blade Armour. Yeah, one of the parts is there, but you can get the Reps on the top half easy enough, blaze through to Zero Nightmare/High Max/Dynamo, and then just come back with Blade.

>> No.695431

>>695427
>No X6
>No Command Mission
>No Classics
>No Legends
>No Battle Networks
>No Zeros
>No ZXs

Get out

>> No.695437

>>695431
Sorry, I meant to say X

And these games:

Megaman 4
Megaman 7
Command Mission
X5, X6, X7
BN4
ZXA

Are just objectively bad.

>> No.695441

>>695437
Ah, bad wording on my part, didn't mean to imply that all the Classics etc. were good, just assumed you were one of those "HURR X WAS ONLY GOOD SERIES" faggots.

Command Mission was good, it was just a radically different kind of game.

I never got the hate for EXE 4 when 3 was so much worse. The only way I can see it is if you're judging by multiplayer, but that would be the stupidest metric to judge it by.

ZXA disappointed me after how good ZX was, but I wouldn't say it's a bad game by any means.

>> No.697313

>>695349
What? No one thinks X3 is easier than X1 or X2. Those are generally considered the easiest X games.

>> No.697554

>>695349

X3 wasn't easy.

It was just shit.

>> No.698027

>>695368
Wow, you X6 haters take faggotry to a whole new level.

Enjoy your autism.

>> No.698791

>>695437

None of those games are objectively bad. Go back to /v/ if you think those games are 'objectively' bad

>> No.698806

Final Fantasy VI is overrated and easily the worst SNES FF.

>> No.698826

>>684173
>The Ice Cavern in OOT was way more tedious and irritating than the Water Temple.

Maybe on a tedium density level, but it's so much shorter that it can't compare in overall irritation. Also, no boots switching.

>> No.698837

X2>X>X4=X5>X3>X6

>> No.698836

I don't know if this is unpopular or not, but I like Mega Man Legends 1 a lot more than 2.

>> No.698846

Megaman discussion on the board is honestly worse than /v/ at times

its just shit flinging

>> No.698869

>>698846
And there's so fucking much of it.
3 topics filled with this crap.

>> No.698872

>>698846
This board may as well just be called /mm/ too many Megaman threads.

I love me some Mega man but if this keeps up we're going to be seeing Katawa Shoujo 2.0
>Hurr First for Roll!

>> No.698878

>>698872
In all honestly I rather have waifu circle jerking than

THIS MEGAMAN GAME SUCKS AND HERE'S WHY

NO ITS NOT SHIT GO BACK TO /V/

HURR X SERIES SUCKS CAUSE ITS TOO STORY DRIVEN

its so bad now

>> No.698882

All megaman games are shit, specially the X series.

>> No.698886

>>698878
>>698872
>>698869
>>698846

>>>/q/

Fuck you and fuck off.

>> No.699176

>>698837
>X4=X5

Nope, NOPE.

All the reused elements like the Speeder bike level and 4 piece armors were done worse, the ranking system is a kick in the dick for completionists and people who might want a bad rank somewhere for a certain part, and the time limit is pointless, especially since you can RANDOMLY succeed or fail each event occasionally(though rarely) even if you get everything or nothing.

The Sigma stages are probably one of the few things I liked about that game, especially the one with the Quick Beams and Black Devil.

The other thing I liked about the game is that you can use X AND Zero, but even that is done silly, as Zero loses a crappy buster he can only use while standing still, but X loses AN ENTIRE ARMOR, the one from X4 with most of its features, which means the game ends up with a massively disparate difficulty depending on who you start with.

Speaking of the Zero Buster, I found that a LOT more useful in X6 for some reason. Also, while a lot of people complain about the nightmare effects, I find they make stages you might revisit for crap a lot more interesting, but that's just me. I can't say the stage design is any better than X5's though.

>> No.699289

>>698806
>Worse than 4

>> No.699297

>>699176
>Speaking of the Zero Buster, I found that a LOT more useful in X6 for some reason.

Because it does ridiculous levels of damage?

>> No.699317

>>699297
Yes, but you still have to stand still while using it, so it's still rather limited. And there's lots of other ways to do ridiculous damage in X6, because the game itself is ridiculous like that.

>> No.699579

>>699317
Right, just saying, that's why it'd be much more useful in 6 than in 4 or 5

>> No.701959

>>699317
Yeah. Ridiculously awesome.

>> No.701975

>>701959
horribly designed != awesome

>> No.701985

>>701975
>!=
>>>/g/dpt

>> No.702014

>>701975
X5 is even worse: rather than being horribly designed, it wasn't designed at all. It's just rehashed shit. It isn't even as good as the other games it ripped off of are, it's just an all-around shitfest.

>> No.702027

>>702014
>it wasn't designed at all
This is such a retarded statement. Look, I think X5's stages are all largely boring and unmemorable, but to say that they're rehashes to the point of not being designed is retarded beyond words. Grizzly Slash's stage is obviously ripping off the train theme of Slash Beast's stage, but the two play out very differently. X5's rendition is more boring, yeah, but you're fucking braindead if you think they're the same thing.

>> No.702040

>>702027
>rip off a great stage
>shit on it completely
>make it butt ugly
>add alia to fuck your shit up

Yeah, I wouldn't call it design either. I'd call it complete and utter shit.

>> No.702194

Twilight Princess does everything OoT did but far better.

We don't need more Mega Man games, I love the series but there's plenty.

GoldenEye has aged horribly.

>> No.702205

>>702194
>GoldenEye has aged horribly.
That's not much of an unpopular opinion. I think most people who have actually played it recently would agree,

>> No.704689

Zelda 1 was way more fun and enjoyable than Link to the Past.

The first time I beat either of them was only a month or so ago.

>> No.704705

I never enjoyed any Zelda games.

A link to the past is a passable time waster for a top down hack & slash but none of them have any worthwhile story or interesting gameplay elements. They're the Angry Birds of video games. And always have been. They may update graphics and may make you a wolf. But it's still the same bland lifeless game over and over.

>> No.706017

I think emulation, with rare exceptions, is generally superior to native hardware in this day and age if all you want to do is play the game. We're reaching the point where the systems are finally dying and with the recent retro trend, prices are going up way too fast for "authentic" retro gaming to be reasonably priced.

>> No.706024

Mega Man hasn't been good since X2.

>> No.706032
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706032

>>704705
>he thinks Zelda is a hack & slash

>> No.706054

The Oracles were the last good Zelda games and Link to the Past was the last good console Zelda.

>> No.706070

I'm glad Capcom seems to have given up on the Megaman series for now. The franchise got far to over saturated and I think Capcom should take the Star Trek route, leave the franchise to rest for a few years, whet our appetites and then bring on the reboot. It doesn't even have to be a full on reboot, it should be like the X series was to the main series

>> No.706091

>>706070
Regardless of any marketing tactic used to promote it; more fragmentation certainly won't help the franchise while there's still supposedly five ongoing series.

>> No.706112

>>698882
This.

>> No.706121
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706121

Megaman is what Capcom made when they couldn't get the rights for an Astro Boy game.

>> No.706149
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706149

Contra: Hard Corps is the best game in the series. No contest.

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706159

>>706121
Fund it

>> No.706670

psxfin is the best PS1 emulator

>> No.706967

Goldeneye 007 is not perfect.

>> No.706983

>>706121
>>706159
FYI, there is an excellent Astro Boy game on the GBA. Although it's not really like Mega Man.

>> No.707165

emulation is cheaper, faster and better. Just need the right equipment and every console with every game is at your finger tips in perfect quality, often better.

>> No.707167

>I prefer Super Mario RPG over Final Fantasy, anyday
>Fire Emblem:Sword of Seals... is the best Fire Emblem
>Dreamcast needs some fucking praise
>Golden Axe 1-3 is better than Battletoads
>Battletoads was shit, only good thing was pause theme
>Earthbound is good, but really is over-praised

>> No.707193

>>706149
I agree, while contra 3 is a great game in its own right and one of my favorite.
Hard corps takes everything to the next level more enemies, its faster, more playable characters, different paths, its much harder.

>> No.710229

>>695320
> X6, the game where you basically are forced to die and get hit to get upgrades

What?

>> No.710253

>>695320
X5, the game where you are literally forced to die 20+ times to get half the upgrades for one character and optionally rescue faggots for no benefit at all.

>> No.710286 [DELETED] 

I hated Majora's Mask. I hated the three day time limit because I felt it didn't allow me to explore at my leisure. I hated having to wait in places

for shit to happen and I didn't give a shit about the NPCs or their "stories". I hated how you had to be a shitty Deku Scrub in the beginning,

limiting your ability to explore and fight. The entire game felt like one big sidequest that I had to complete just to get back to Hyrule and play a

good Zelda game. And before anyone brings up other Zelda games not taking place in Hyrule, I don't like any of the non-3D ones besides LttP and

Link's Awakening.

>> No.710295

I hated Majora's Mask. I hated the three day time limit because I felt it didn't allow me to explore at my leisure. I hated having to wait in places for shit to happen and I didn't give a shit about the NPCs or their "stories". I hated how you had to be a shitty Deku Scrub in the beginning, limiting your ability to explore and fight. The entire game felt like one big sidequest that I had to complete just to get back to Hyrule and play a good Zelda game. And before anyone brings up other Zelda games not taking place in Hyrule, I don't like any of the non-3D ones besides LttP and Link's Awakening.

>> No.710332

>>710295
>I don't like any of the non-3D ones besides LttP and Link's Awakening.


So you're saying you didn't like the original two, the Oracle games, or Minish Cap, but you liked the 3D ones?

>> No.710376

I always thought homing missiles in shmups ruined the game.

>> No.711029

>>684858
>lava

Jesus nut fucks the donuts are shit but that guy is grating.

>> No.711051

>>710376

Second.

I feel the same way about high inventory limits in RPGs. You wanna hoard Elixirs against the endgame, you better get used to having a dozen max of them.

>> No.711063

>>693342
>Megaman 9
>NES

Here we go...

>> No.711071

>>711063
>Megaman 9
Are you incapable of reading or something?

>> No.711086

I really dislike Megaman 2. I think it's the bastard child of the classic series, and has no feeling of cohesiveness. Also, the palette is butt ugly. Everyone quotes it as a labor of love, given the circumstances, but the fact is it was cobbled together and rushed after-hours and it shows.

>> No.711090

>>711071
I was saying Megaman 9 was the best.

>> No.711129

Sonic the Hedgehog, in all iterations, save maybe Sonic 1 on SMS, are severely overrated.

>> No.711205

>>684858
X6 is much better than X5.

X4 >>>> X6 >>>> X5

Stop playing with normal X. The game has the fucking Falcon and it was designed to play using it

>> No.711217

>>711205
But I like giving normal X a ridiculous amalgamation of parts just to make certain areas doable, it's hilarious, just like so many other things about the game.

>> No.711234

>>706017
It is superior. Only hard core nostalgiafags use real hardware.

With emulation, the sky's the limit. You can save anywhere. You can play ROM hacks. You can use filters. You can record yourself playing. There's no memory limit. Given the right emulator, you can code your own achievement system if you can and want to.

>> No.711238

>>706112
Go samefag elsewhere.

>> No.711302

>>704705
What else is Angry Birds but a video-game ?

>> No.711563

>>711217
You also can play Castlevania Symphony of the Night without weapons and armors and make fun of it.

>> No.711639

Megaman X6 is awesome

> Dat final boss
> Dat crazy Sigma throwing lasers everywhere
> Dat music

I need to play it again...

>> No.711690

>>711639
Fuck yeah dude. All my emulators are fucking up though. X5 and X6 are randomly crashing. I wonder why.

>> No.711708

>>682267
Alright, OP.
Sonic 2 is a better-made game than Sonic 3 and K

>> No.711715

>>711708
mad

>> No.711725
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>>683245
Where's the X4, love?

>> No.711728

>>711725
X4 is much better than either X5 and X6, yes. It's the best X game on the playstation. A true X game.

>> No.711746

>>711728
> TFW Capcom will never make another Megaman X game.

>> No.711756

>>711708
Not OP, but I agree with you. I don't like how they had to split the game in two, Sonic 3 was long enough as it is, and Tails just makes the game ridiculously easy, whether you use him alone or with Sonic. Not that doing Sonic 3 with Sonic alone was that difficult. Knuckles being playable was great, but nothing jaw dropping.

>> No.711819

>>711756
>too casual for S3&K

>> No.711931

>>711819

I've beaten the damn thing before in one sitting, which is probably not worth doing.

Sonic & Knuckles was definitely better to me than Sonic 3, but I still prefer Sonic 2 to either one. S&K can be played standalone, and it's probably better to do it that way unless you want Hyper Sonic badly for some reason, being able to do the final battle with just the chaos emeralds from 3 makes it too easy and a lot longer than it has to be at the same time.

>> No.712510

>>711746

There's already 6 + GameBoy games, the classic series, and the Zero series. Do we really need more?

>> No.714759

>>695296
>ALTTP has some really boring ass dungeons.
>Pokemon Silver was the best Pokemon game, even if Kanto is silly
Mah nigga

>> No.714764

>>695437
>Bad MM games
>Not one game from the Zero series
Mah nigga

>> No.715525

>>682267
>there is people that actually have this opinions

Plebs

>> No.716235

>>715525
>not liking X6

X5-loving casual

>> No.716249

I think video games are fun

>> No.717354 [DELETED] 

>>716249
>liking video games

faggot

>> No.719835

>>716235

>casual
>megaman

>> No.721632

>>682267
Regardless of whether the game is shit or not, that's always been my favorite cover in the series.

Badass.

>> No.721640

>>721632
When you say series, are you including the regular Megaman games? If so Megaman 1 has the best cover.

>> No.721647

>>721640
I meant the X series. Don't really remember what the original covers looked like, but I recall them being shit to parody levels.

>> No.721821

>>721647
They got better over time, but the first Megaman's cover art was seriously the most half-assed shit ever as far as Megaman is concerned.

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>>721821