/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.6820584]

Why is it so fucking hard? Its tough even on lower difficulty settings.

[Anonymous No.6820615]

aged badly

[Anonymous No.6820637]

>>6820584

Lightly Broiled ain't bad. The problem I have is finding where to go next late game, its so maze-like.

[Anonymous No.6820645]

>>6820584
The way I hear it is the devs kept getting good at the game, and then they kept thinking "Man, this is too easy!" and adjusted accordingly.

[Anonymous No.6821331]

>>6820584
It's meant to be played on Lightly Broiled normally, Well Done if you're experienced, and Extra Crispy in co-op (which includes infinite respawns). If you're getting your butt kicked on the easiest difficulty you should stop playing with a track ball.

[Anonymous No.6821380]

>>6820584
Start playing it like a puzzle game... It will make sense and you will get better, you will acquire reflexes specific to this game
- stairs ? There is an enemy waiting for you
- door ? Enemies on the blind spot !
- a room ? Mb throw dynamite first ?
- water ? Totally throw dynamite first !

With time you will get the reasoning behind the maps and get better, the game will still kick your ass, but you will understand why and how !
Fucking love this game.

[Anonymous No.6821385]

>>6820615
Die in 9/11

[Anonymous No.6821387]

>>6820584
Man, NES games were hard as nails and all but nothing compares to those first fps'es
Tried playing Shadowrun a handful of times, it's absolutely impossible
I'll gladly 1cc ANY arcade shmup before I finish that motherfucking game

[Anonymous No.6821503]

>>6821387
Blood came out in 1997, it's not one of the first FPSs at all, Wolfenstein 3D is the first one out the gate in 1992, which fits the typical formula, and it's a cakewalk on the easy difficulty setting.

[Anonymous No.6821630]

>>6820584
Maybe you should stop trying to play it like Doom. Build engine games aren't supposed to be played mindless run 'n strafe 'n gun style.

[Anonymous No.6821694]

>>6821387
The thing about retro FPS is that in most of them you have the freedom to save anytime you want. So theoretically anybody should be able to beat them if they save & retry enough. Of course it is better to just get good.

[Anonymous No.6821707]

BUTTERNUTS AND FEARBOOKS

[Anonymous No.6821816]

>>6820584
Wasn't there a bug that basically inverted the settings for difficulty levels, making Still Kicking play like Extra Crispy? I heard people talking about, I don't remember where.

[Anonymous No.6821818]

i think the difficulties after lightly broiled only work if you know enemy placement and you're generally good at using dynamite
>>6820584

[Anonymous No.6821832]

>>6821630
This. In Doom and even Quake, you can tank some damage. But in any Build game, be it Big 3 or else, player is a glass cannon. A very fast one, but even cultists or pig cops can tear you a new one.

[Anonymous No.6821840]

>>6821707
ADIDAS AND REEBOKS

[Anonymous No.6821849]

>>6820584
Hitscanners. Once you figure out how to use the weapons, especially dynamite, the game gets a lot easier. I still, and will always, think Shadow Warrior is harder thanks to the shadow ninjas. Shadow ninjas are harder than any enemy in Blood or Duke3D.

[Anonymous No.6821857]

>>6821816
Same thing as the X-Com glitch where Superhuman turned to Beginner, I believe.

[Anonymous No.6821951]

>>6821707
>>6821840

GET ON THE FLOOOOOR

[Anonymous No.6821964]

>>6821387
>Shadowrun
>fps

The only Shadowrun fps I ever heard of is that one for the 360, it ain't retro

[Anonymous No.6822071]

>>6821849
>Hitscanners.
It's this, they're really accurate with a fast reaction time. Even one of the developers said he wished he had toned them down before release. It's not so bad if you go slow and make good use of the shotgun to stun them or throw dynamite around the corners but it's kind of boring that way. I know Fresh Supply has a lot of problems but being able to turn down their accuracy and aggression with the custom difficulty option makes the game more fun IMO.

[Anonymous No.6822118]

>>6821964
Maybe anon meant Shadowgate

[Anonymous No.6822329]

>>6821707
MANANANA
MALAY

[Anonymous No.6822356]

>>6820584
It really isn't. Learn to duck/jump hitscanners, and dynamite everything.

[Anonymous No.6822371]

>>6822356
>duck

I've never understood people recommending this, ducking only slows you down and makes you an easier target. Having played through Blood to completion, I never ducked unless it was to access a crawlspace or something.

[Anonymous No.6822426]

>>6822071
Dude, BuildGDX has fine tuning too and it's WAY better (gibs aren't censored, AI isn't bugged, weapons work as intended, etc.). Don't ever recommend Fresh Shitpile, seriously.

[Anonymous No.6822656]

>>6822371
Because hitscanners literally cannot hit you when duck.

[Anonymous No.6822751]

>>>Corner? Stairwell? any nook or cranny that might hide a hit scanner? Better haphazardly lob a stick of dynamite around the corner!

Seriously though, fuck this gameplay loop.

[Anonymous No.6822985]

>>6822751
You don't even need to do that, scrub.

[Anonymous No.6823013]

What keybinds do you guys use for this game?

[Anonymous No.6823017]

>>6822985
>dude just duck for half of the game lol
riveting

[Anonymous No.6823071]

>>6823017
Well, what the fuck do you want then? You don't want to duck to avoid fire, you don't want to throw dynamite around corners, what? do you just want the enemies to stand there and let you gun them down one by one?

[Anonymous No.6823115]

>>6823071
It's just better to tone them down with custom settings. I've beaten the game before completely vanilla but they still have problems and they make the game less fun. Proper hitscanners should either give you a window to take cover or not hit you if you move full speed in one direction, but the ones in Blood have both insane accuracy and reaction times. Playing it like a cover shooter just kind of sucks and I think it's better to recommend that people fix it with custom settings instead of telling them to just deal with it.

[Anonymous No.6823640]

>>6820584
Pitchfork zombies early to conserve ammo. Episode 1 is pretty fucking hard because you don't have all the weapons at your disposal.

[Anonymous No.6823657]

>>6822071
>Even one of the developers said he wished he had toned them down before release
then why didn't they patch it?

[Anonymous No.6823958]

>>6823640
I'd say that e1m2 is the hardest stage in the game
just because of how little the game gives you at that point.

[Anonymous No.6824653]

>>6820584
make sure you're jumping and crouching in all fights with cultists

[Anonymous No.6825497]

>>6822985
>lost 1 HP
scrub

[Anonymous No.6825569]

>duck to win

Holy shit I hust realized thats the reason many of the cultists scream TO DA FLOOR!

[Anonymous No.6825591]

>>6820584
Bizarre splash damage and hitscanning enemies.

That's literally it.

[Anonymous No.6825635]

All they had to do was slightly increase the cultists reaction time

[Anonymous No.6825637]

Have any of you guys read Priest? It's a korean manga based off of Blood and it's pretty cool.

[Anonymous No.6826082]

>>6825637
Post it nigger.

[Anonymous No.6826241]

>>6823115
>Playing the game as intended is retarded, making all enemies braindead so I can le epic run n gun brootal doom it is much better

[Anonymous No.6826254]

>>6826241
The devs themselves admitted it retard

[Anonymous No.6826428]

>>6826254
the devs were wrong

[Anonymous No.6826673]

>>6826241
I'm not saying you have to completely tone them down as much as possible, just enough so that you don't immediately lose half of your health if you accidentally turn a corner without slowly peeking it first. I've beaten the game vanilla before but the cultists really make it less fun and restrict what you can do too much. And if you're just basically abusing a minor exploit by doing something like crouching all the time which messes them up anyway you might as well tone them down and be able to play normally instead.