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6778697 No.6778697 [Reply] [Original]

Classicvania who?
Make room for the kind of Castlevania games normal people who have sex like: Metroidvanias.
Post about them, boys! Which are your favorites?
Gotta go with HoD myself.

>> No.6779419

Circle of the Moon is my personal favorite of the entire series

>> No.6779778

>>6778697
CotM > HoD > AoS > SotN

>> No.6779784

>>6778697
Now I'm as big of a "Castle Maniac" as anyone, but which game is TRULY worth playing?

>> No.6779871

>>6779784
sotn and aos

>> No.6780285

>>6778697
all of them are great except Circle of the nigger
that was the worst game i ever played on Gameboy Advance and i hate the nostalgia fags who keeps saying it(s the best game ever

>> No.6780675
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6780675

>>6778697
>Make room

Yeah we know what you're about pal

>> No.6780702

>>6779784
If I had to choose just one, SoTN over Aria just because the GBA doesn't shit all over the soundtrack.
On the other side of things, playing HoD last with the forward dash just felt liberating; in retrospect it's kind of surprising how it didn't reappear as a soul in the following games.

>> No.6780767

>>6780285
lol, you got filtered by based cotm

>> No.6781759

>>6780702
The only other time any character got a forward dash was with Maria in the PSP/Requiem SotN.

>> No.6781775

>>6779778
Castlevania 64/HoD/AoS > CotM > SotN

>> No.6781797
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6781797

>>6778697
Who would pay if Harmony of Dissonance release in 1995?

>> No.6781806

I do love all... there are 3 right? I think the second one was my fav. I remember the first one being rough and being all about the whip, the second one having the skill capture system, and the third one was in the future in the snow and I keep playing it but never getting too far. Oh, and there is the one on the DS which we cannot discuss, right?

>> No.6781824
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6781824

Nice thread OP. Too bad your ass got saaaaaaaaaaacked.

>> No.6781887

>>6779778
I never understood CotM's appeal, HoD feels way better, the only "downside" is the chiptune music but IMO the songs themselves are great regardless

>> No.6781909

>>6781806
Wrong.

First one was the jank ass, slow as fuck waste of time.
Second had the whip fuckery.
Third is indeed set in the future, but there's no snow. This is the one with the random soul/skill system

There's then 3 for DS

First is the one in the snow
Second uses the castle as a hub world and you play as 2 people at once
Third is basically an action game, but it's fun at least.

>> No.6781918

>>6781824

Nice catch, Blanko Nino

>> No.6781931

>>6781887
Ending credit show off buff sounds output.

>> No.6781984

>>6781909
OOoooooh, OK. So yeah, the first GBA was definitely slow as fuck. I remember falling into a huge pit that took be back to the bottom level of the map or some shit and giving up.

I don't remember shit from the second one then.
'
Funny how the GBA ones kinda blurred together for me, while SotN is totally unique and I remember every bit.

>> No.6782004

>>6781797
Imagine more storyline, hidden level and impove great soundtrack.

>> No.6782052

>>6781984
I beat all but COTM many times, so I remember them all clearly. SOTN is also my third favorite game of all time, so I've probably beaten that one pretty much as many times as every other game i've ever played combined (except Resident Evil 2, which I played even more)

God, Im a loser...

>> No.6782127

Holy cross!!

>> No.6782449

>>6781797
>1995
This anon know

>> No.6783059

CotM really captures that creepy, expansive castle feel. The later GBA/DS vanias "streamlined" things and while they look more polished, it lost a little of that sense of exploration.

>> No.6783172

>>6781759
Oh, I never played that port. Sounds nifty.

>> No.6783185

>>6783059
Disagree, really didn't care for CotM's environments. Bland with dull colors, and lazy obstacles put in dedicated rooms.

>> No.6783231

>>6780285
Based COTM, filtered cuck.

>> No.6784446
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6784446

For me, it's Castlevania on the NES on the GBA

>> No.6784465

>>6780285
CotM had a legit poorly designed castle, to reach the east side from the west and vice versa you had to do a full counter clockwise route through the entire castle.

>> No.6785115

>>6780675
this was really cool and every time I talk about it positively I always get made fun of. I love this game.

>> No.6785154

>>6784465
The worst thing about CotM's castle was how most places unlockable via abilities were just dead ends. You get a new skill, go across the castle to a place you remember, but it's just a potion in a dead-end room. Again and again.

>> No.6785179

>>6785115
It's a fun feature, but it's absurd that Juste is decorating a room in Dracula's castle.

I mean, come on.

>> No.6785208

>>6784465
The warp room placement was pretty poor, and it continued the problem of "warp to the next area" instead of actually selecting your desired warp point.

One of the worst parts of the DSS system was that you had to figure out what certain combinations did. Others were more obvious, but those that required an input command to activate were difficult to discover even when reading about the DSS cards individually in the menu.

The discovery of DSS cards was also bad, which is why I play a patch that makes DSS cards discovered around the castle instead of being random enemy drops. It makes for much more fun progression.

>> No.6785574

>>6778697
>normal people who have sex
go back to your successful life normalfag

>> No.6785946

>>6778697
Aria is damn masterpiece.

>> No.6786051
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6786051

What's the best palette hack for HoD? The original release is too garish.

>> No.6786058

>>6784446
Not more than 25 NES on GBA cart?

>> No.6786067

>>6786051
Almost apparently PC-FX sprites

>> No.6786130
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6786130

The board was ruined for this shit
Congratulations
As if you knew what having sex is like, autist

>> No.6786142

>>6786130
>ruin
>autist
Nope.

>> No.6786165

>>6786051
>Juste now hovers one pixel over the ground because his aura was considered part of his hitbox.
Nobody ever caught that?

>> No.6786279

>>6781887
Chiptune can sound great but HoD was using the wrong hardware for its soundtrack and sounded awful.

>>6781984
>I remember falling into a huge pit that took be back to the bottom level of the map or some shit and giving up.
You mean at the start of the game? That's a bug that you literally have to do on purpose by repeatedly running into Talos as it chases you.

>> No.6786287

>>6786279
Just remembered that COTM was the first CV on the GBA, my bad. But yes the start suffers from the slow walking speed but you're literally about two minutes away from the running shoes.

>> No.6786301

>>6786279
The hackers can make patches to have the FF4-6 ports purportedly sound better, but nobody ever tried doing the same with HoD?

>> No.6786317

>>6786279
>>6786301
HoD composer could sample FM.

>> No.6786341

>>6783059
COTM is actually the second-smallest CV game in terms of map squares, I counted them.

Symphony of the Night: 1,890 squares (both castles)
Portrait of Ruin: 1,846 squares
Bloodstained: 1553 squares
Super Metroid: 1409 squares
Harmony of Dissonance: 1348 squares (both sides)
Order of Ecclesia: 1,335 squares
Dawn of Sorrow: 1023 squares
Circle of the Moon: 980 squares
Aria of Sorrow: 928 squares

>> No.6786415

>>6786317
You mean like the title screen and credits, the only two tracks that sound like they were done with actual hardware?

From what I heard, IGA and his team were totally unfamiliar with the GBA's limits and ended up chewing through their available memory on the graphics alone, leaving almost none for the soundtrack.

>> No.6786663

>>6786341
Below a SFC game? Konami can more add level on GBA.

>> No.6786759 [DELETED] 

>>6786301
>The hackers can make patches to have the FF4-6 ports purportedly sound better

Still sounds like ass and looks like ass

>> No.6787104

>>6778697
Circle of the Moon is the only good one, and that's because of it's focus on fast movement and difficult platforming, which something it gets from the classicvania's not from SotN

>> No.6787172

>>6786759
Thue, but in HoD's case, its audio can't get any worse than it is now.

>> No.6787182

>>6778697
I heard people get filtered by HoD because of the 8bit music

>> No.6787213

>>6778697
>Gotta go with HoD myself

My nigga. Dissonance is the true gentlemen's Castlevania. Except for the music, i'm not sure what happened there

>> No.6788018
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6788018

>6th gen toddlers are the diversity hires of /vr/ and now we have to put up with their bullshit

>> No.6789050

>>6786341
You move more slowly though in CotM, yeah?

>> No.6789171

>>6789050
At first yes but you get the running shoes very early on at which point he is quite fast.

>> No.6789187

>>6787182
You heard wrong, the music was heavily criticized but the criticism after that was the unbalanced difficulty. It would range from trivial to "You came to the wrong neighborhood motherfucker". Due to how open the castle was it was easy to wander into a strong enemy that would kick your ass all over the place.

>> No.6789265

>>6779419
Kek
>>6779778
Kek
>>6780285
Agree.

Aria of sorrow is the best and circle of the moon is equal to harmony of dissonance. Aria is the only non mediocre one, that along with SOTN are the only really good "metroidvanias" imo.

>> No.6789383

>>6789265
Cotm is the best papi

>> No.6789502

>Cotm is best
>No it's Hod
>No it's Aos
>It's Cotm
And this is the best GBA thread you toddlers came up with
6th gen was a mistake
You might have convinced the mods
You will never convince /vr/

>> No.6789563
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6789563

CotM would be a lot better if the Card drop rate wasn't so shit. I've collected every soul in the Aria games, but never once had more than 5 cards at the end of a CotM run
>lol, git gud, you suck at CotM
No, the drop rate is abysmal, and you're a retarded masochist.

>> No.6789660

COTM is trash and you know it

>> No.6789687

>>6779419
I don't like that game. It's too grindy and repetitive.

>> No.6789704

>>6789502
Bro this is /vr/

You're the faggot. It's you.

>> No.6790241

>>6789563
I agree.

>> No.6791752

>>6786279
I disagree, it gets too much hate for being a GBA game but the music is fine, even great given the sounds:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ED9hNFgCP0

>> No.6792036

>>6789502
> actual discussion and disagreement bad
> mindless doom dicksucking good

>> No.6792056

If I played through most of SOTN but made the mistake of trying to get the funny super fast sword right in the middle of the hidden mansion and got burnt out from the grind, but otherwise liked the game, what's the next metroidvania-castlevania I should play?

>> No.6792083

>>6778697
>8-bit farts on a 32-bit console
>completely devoid of difficulty, Ice + Holy Book rapes everything in the room and even bosses
>not Aria
Yeah I'm thinking no, but at least it has a Belmont

>> No.6792087

Not retro

>> No.6792220

>>6786341
>aria that low
Holy shit, no wonder the replays are so fast.

>> No.6792249

>>6789563
Just play with the Card Up hack. Making meat drop from enemies who normally drop cards is also pretty helpful.

>> No.6792274

>>6792220
Yeah that was my main issue with Aria. Best metroidvania Castlevania bar fucking none, but far too fucking short.

>> No.6793889

>>6786341
The Chaotic Realm in Aria isn't part of the regular map, is 928 including that too?

>> No.6793935

>>6791752
PC Engine-like soundchip...gonna love it.

>> No.6794006

>>6789502
Surely something.
>>6786317
Imagine Nintendo had done it.

>> No.6794071

>>6792083
>Ice + Holy Book rapes everything in the room and even bosses
Is that the one that gives Juste the forward shield from Gradius? Because that thing combined with his forward dash bulldozes all in his path.

>> No.6794152

>>6794071
Uh huh.

>> No.6795521

>>6780675
You are now aware of the tanuki statue's giant balls.

>> No.6795640
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6795640

>>6779778
>>6781775
>trying this too hard on a Taiwanese shitweaving website

Kill yourself

>> No.6796520

>>6786341
great work anon

>> No.6796560

>>6786341
i'm legitimately curious as to how you performed the count, you didn't literally count each square as you filled them in in each game did you?

>> No.6796825
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6796825

Honestly, I think Harmony Of Dissonance was the best looking GBAvania game.

>> No.6796965

>>6793889
I'm certain I included that in it as well.

>> No.6796972

>>6789563
honestly its not that bad. If you know what monsters drop what card its easy to farm the cards. you was probably just casually going through the game and didn't bother grinding the cards.

>> No.6797019

>>6778697
Aria is my favorite, but I really like Harmony quite a lot. It tries aping Symphony a bit hard, but it also does a bunch of its own things, and it does the Two Castles gimmick MUCH better.

The instrumentation is compared to other GBA games pretty rough, but I don't mind that, I grew up with NES and Gameboy, I like chiptunes, overall it sounds really good.

>>6792036
Doom gets its dick sucked because it's still one of the best FPS ever made.

>> No.6797028

>>6789563
Sort of agree, but I still mostly had fun. I never could beat Dracula in that game though, Jesus Christ he kicks my ass so hard.

>> No.6797030

>>6796825
I really love the weird and colorful horror visuals. Almost makes me think about some parts of Creepshow, with the stark colored lighting.

>> No.6797042

My favourite Castlevania games have to be the Dracula X saga.
Those games were basically Classicvania perfected and Metroidvania invented, respectively (and you can even say none of the later Metroidvanias were as good as SotN so maybe Metroidvania was also perfected with it).

>> No.6797045

>>6792220
Yeah, as a teen I would sometimes blast through it twice in a day.

>>6792274
Uhuh. I really wish it had a dark castle to it like Harmony did

>> No.6797091
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>>6797030
Exactly, the bright colors go along with Castlevania's aesthetic as well as horror in general.

>> No.6797110

>>6792056
If you haven't, you should try playing Symphony on Luck Mode, it makes the game MUCH more fun. It makes it common to get drops from enemies, giving you supplies and unusual equipment, but it makes Alucard weak as shit for the first hour of the game, so you really have to approach encounters carefully and avoid taking hits more than ever. I ended up relying more on spells and special weapon attacks than I ever had before, because I absolutely had to drink blood, I absolutely had to launch seeking projectiles from a distance, because strong hits are so deadly. It's a bit frustrating at first, but after a while, you build up some necessary supplies and tools, and you get into the rhythm and necessary tactics, and the game becomes a really much more enjoyable challenge.
Alucard does eventually get pretty strong towards the end anyway, but overall the game is a lot more fun.

I can't recommend SoTN's Luck Mode enough.

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6797378

>>6796560
Nah, I'll explain the method in detail. Pic related.

>> No.6797434

>>6778697
The GBA and DS games are all average. Symphony of the Night at least looks and sounds amazing. And CV1 and 3 are obviously better than any of the rest

>> No.6797439

>>6787104
This is right. The only two worth playing are CotM (because it's actually a pretty good game) and SotN (for aesthetic reasons)

>> No.6797465
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6797465

>>6778697
I managed to make HoD to not look like shit with muh Pocketron shader i made.

>> No.6797474

>>6780675
Wht no other Castleroid ever had this option?

>> No.6797496

>>6783059
I think i know why that is.

the basic room boxes of CotM, probably were designed using a more standard box NES/SNES screen despite the field of view of it still fixated to the tiny GBA screen resolution, that seems to be why everything in CotM feels so big and spaced out.

>> No.6797520

>>6797465
And a mod that changes the pallet by the looks of it.

>> No.6797536

>>6786051

HoD look ugly because of the washed up graphics, and the GBA color LCD filter all it does is nod the saturation of colors down, but thats it, gamma, black leveling and contrast wise it still looks putrid to me, but on RetroArch VBA-M core i use this shader i made >>6797465, keeps the color more or less vivid but fixes the depth of luminance and details and make its look neat.

>> No.6797545

>>6797520
Naw, is just the shader i made, Pocketron. the only hack i apolied to the game is the one that removes the blue outline "aura" to Juste and the bats.

>> No.6797563

>>6786341
counting the repeated areas of both SotN and HoD feels like cheating to me.

>> No.6797567

>>6784446
>For me, it's Castlevania
Good call
>>6784446
>on the GBA
What is wrong with you?

>> No.6797582

>>6797545
>Pocketron
Where can I find this?

>> No.6797583

>>6797563
Harmony's is at least part of the game from the beginning.

>> No.6797593

>>6786415
and the graphics werent that great to being honest, washed out look aside, it also had an issue with the animtions being choppy as hell, and the tiles quite limited and the backgrounds often then not were just a vertical rectangle image stamp-looped all over, making it look weird and lazy.

HoD biggest problem was trying hard to be SotN Lite for the GBA, downright to Juste being discount Alucard downright to the look. when it should have been its own thing.

CotM might have looed more simplistic in its look and graphics but had a much more appealing look and more detail in its stage design (as in how they looked).

They finally nailed it right with AoS in spite of the more reduced sprites and music feeling different.

>> No.6797605

>>6797593
Juste run animation alone looks retarded.

>> No.6797615

>>6796825
>jpeg

go back to AOL!

>> No.6797621

>>6797615
retro file on a retro board seems fitting.

>> No.6797725

>>6797593
>HoD biggest problem was trying hard to be SotN Lite for the GBA
Does anyone have that one image of that thread? You know the one.

>> No.6797729

>>6797725
>You know the one.
no I don't however I want to see this

>> No.6797757
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>>6797582
i share my custom shader on a filter thread that got 404d, but here it is.

https://files.catbox.moe/c9rviw.cgp

Its a very vanilla filter actually, only has 2 shader passes, and everytime i tried to add some other stuff, like glow, it fucks it up.

Also speakin of shaders, when i was playing on MedGUI Reborn, there you were allowed to gave a RGB chromatic shadow diffusion there and i had this setup for SOTN, but i cannot do it on Retroarch.

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6797768

I've played Zero Mission so much that I've practically lost my virginity to it. It was the main reason I hacked my 3Dses.

>> No.6797776

>>6797768
wrong thread

>> No.6797826
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6797826

>>6797776
Sorry mate, went ahead and deleted this.

Am I missing much if I play a GBA or DS Castlevania before SOTN?

>> No.6797894

>>6796825
I wanna see this screenshots with this shader >>6797757

>> No.6797898

>>6797826
No, Portrait ties into Symphony a bit but not greatly, Dawn of Sorrow spoils the plot twist of Aria right at the beginning but it's a "I am your father" level of twist.

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>>6778697
Just played SotN for the first time and it blew me away, after realizing there were 6 of these games released across GBA and DS I really feel like I missed out on something awesome not playing them growing up.

Homebrewed my 3DS just to play through all of them while I go on a trip.

Oh and I played Bloodstained which was really cool too but thats not /vr/

>> No.6798010

>>6797110
Luck Mode is only challenging until you get to the library and can buy the high-end gear, and then it evens out to normal difficulty.

>> No.6798036

>>6778697
>>6779778
aria of sorrow>harmony of dissonance>circle of the moon>symphony of the night>n64 castlevanias>traditional castlevanias

>> No.6799638

bumpetty bump

>> No.6799645

>>6799638
please don't

>> No.6799672
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6799672

>>6778697
There was only one true Metroidvania and it was always retro.
The rest are bullshit clones of this game for tiny shit screens.

>> No.6799731

>>6799672
based

>> No.6799735

>>6799672
Nope Sotnigga

>> No.6799745

>>6781797
Only Konami does back than.

>> No.6799809

>>6799731
Not.
>>6798036
Castlevania 64 is amazing classicvania. Don’t get blindsided.

>> No.6799941

>>6778697
So Juste related to claymore/witcher?

>> No.6800557
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6800557

>>6797465
here's what it looks like without the LCD grid

>> No.6800704

>>6800557
>>6800557

Here are the settings for the color spectre

Target Gamma 3.00
Monitor Gamma 2.50
Saturation 1.24
Contrast 1.00
Luminance 1.00
Black Level 0.07
Brightness Boost -0.05
Red Channel 1.05
Green Channel 1.00
Blue Channel 1.10

Try it on any GBA/overly bright handheld game.