Turok N64

[Anonymous No.6748929]

This may be the greatest fps of all time. I have no idea why anyone thinks Golden Eye is any better.

[Anonymous No.6748937]

[Anonymous No.6748947]

>>6748929
Fucking this. Turok 1 is so fucking good and yet no one hardly ever talks about it, it's always MUH QUAKE

[Anonymous No.6749063]

>>6748947
What's this about quake? Hell yea. Quake thread anybody???

[Anonymous No.6749069]

Hell yeah the worst absolute dog shit level design imaginable combined with blurry shit stain textures and more fog than silent hill!!! best fps!!!!

[Anonymous No.6749148]

Its rlly not very good

[Anonymous No.6749412]

>>6748929
turok 1 is a really fun game, but its not without its flaws. I love goldeneye single player for the unlockable cheats and replaying the same level like 4 times with different objectives. Turok is fairly linear, but lots of fun weapons and enemies. Hundreds of hours spent on this back in the day

[Anonymous No.6749430]

>>6749069
>muh PS1 shill grafix arguments
take your meds

[Anonymous No.6750429]

I played it for like 10 minutes and put it away because you can't see shit.
Wasn't impressed.

[Anonymous No.6750440]

Definitely not the most well designed levels in a shooter, but it makes up for it in soul and pizzazz.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQJEay9grX8

[Anonymous No.6750447]

>>6750429
modern PC port cuts the fog back quite significantly.

[Anonymous No.6750472]

>>6750447
Not sure it's even worth it without nostalgia.

[Anonymous No.6750479]

>>6749430
>Level design is graphics
>Draw distance doesn't effect gameplay
>Doesn't even mention the PS1 other than Silent Hill in a derogatory way
>HE MUST BE A PS1 SHILL
You're the one who needs your meds bro.

[Anonymous No.6750489]

>>6750472
I never actually played the game before, and I had fun with it. The catacombs level was horrible, but otherwise it was a really cool high energy shooter, that made me feel like a badass hunter.

[Anonymous No.6750503]

What are the best Turok games, bros?

Turok: Dinosaur Hunter
Turok 2: Seeds of Evil
Turok 3: Shadow of Oblivion
Turok: Rage Wars

Trying to get into Turok.

[Anonymous No.6750505]

>>6748929
Nothin personnel...

[Anonymous No.6750512]

>>6748929
>awful everything
>good

[Anonymous No.6750520]

>>6750503
Dinosaur Hunter is unmatched in soul and energy. 2 and 3 have a lot of nice features and are better games in some regards, but there's something about that first game that was never quite recaptured.

[Anonymous No.6750626]

>>6749069
Seething. A PS1 would have to load a single Turok level 7 times.

[Anonymous No.6750705]

>>6750503
2, 3 and DH are the only ones that matter.
Evolution might as well not exist and the reboot deserves the boot.

[Anonymous No.6750873]

I’m down with OP. Turok was the most impressive N64 game to me at the time and the enemy movements and deaths are fantastic. Great game, cool weapons and cheats galore.

[Anonymous No.6750884]

Is there any way to mod or edit the game that you can play the hardest difficulty but KEEP the golden triangle things?

I like collecting them. They're gone on hardest difficulty. They also kinda guide you around as markers for where to go/where you haven't been yet too.

[Anonymous No.6750890]

>>6748929
does every thread have to be "i like thing better than thing"? just play the damn games

[Anonymous No.6751002]

>>6748929
It was a big deal in its time for various reasons
1) It was an N64 Launch title in March 1997 in PAL regions
2) It introduced some cutting edge ideas at its time
3) It was riding on the back of Jurassic Park and 1990s dinosaur craze. Dinosaurs became kind of passe in the 2000s
4) In retrospect it really isnt that good and its draw distance is almost unplayable nowadays (or even pretty shortly afterwards) (N64 games managed to mitigate the worst of the fogging in later titles)
5) Turok 2 and 3 are better games, theyre actually pretty good, though the difficulty curve is just insane. Actually completing Turok 2 without cheats is an impressive feat.

I remember Turok Evolution in 2002 shortly after Xbox and gamecube came out (PAL). You had that in 2002, old tropes still going; a number of 3D platformers came out in 02 (Crash Bandicoot WoC, Vexx, Rayman 4) but they never really caught on. The Mario 64 spell was over, it was passe. Same for dinosaurs, their coolness peaked in the 90s

[Anonymous No.6751007]

>>6748929
Dat fuckin fog tho

[Anonymous No.6751008]

>>6751002
It was also a pretty important 3rd party release for N64 at a time when you could count on one hand the number of [half-decent] 3rd party titles

[Anonymous No.6751012]

>>6748947
Quake destroys Turdcock the Dinosaur Fucker

[Anonymous No.6751068]

It sucks

[Anonymous No.6751079]

Non id fps are garbage.

[Anonymous No.6751083]

>>6751012
Only because its open source and you play a modern source port.

If you were restricted to vanilla software release limitations you wouldn't be saying this shit.

[Anonymous No.6751112]

>>6751002
Every single point you made is shit and untrue. The resilience of Turok 1's fanbase (putting it above any other Turok game) proves that, cause if it was nostalgia people would just say Turok 2 or 3.

[Anonymous No.6751198]

>>6751083
Bitch I played it when it was released in 96, I upgraded my rig in anticipation of its release and used to follow the happenings with iD on Usenet. Even Quake at launch stomped Turdcock into dust

[Anonymous No.6751242]

>>6751198
>>6751012
The way you speak and express yourself tells me you weren't even born when either Quake or Turok came out.

[Anonymous No.6751248]

I wish Turok 2's maps didn't feel so fucking maze like. I feel like I'm getting lost all the fucking time. Riding on the Canon Triceratops was cool as fuck though.

[Anonymous No.6751249]

>>6751242
I'm 38, retard.

[Anonymous No.6751264]

>>6751249
Wow, a real manchild. And I thought everyone was just using that term ironically

[Anonymous No.6751270]

>>6751264
Cringe

[Anonymous No.6751271]

>>6751270
Wow, you got me good

[Anonymous No.6751275]

>>6751083
yes

>expensive cpu
>inferior graphics

1990

console games > pc games

[Anonymous No.6751318]

>>6750705
>Evolution
But it had a fun secret zoo level.
It wasn't a horrible game all in all, but it was extremely mediocre.

[Anonymous No.6751330]

>>6751275
>inferior graphics
Debatable based on the draw distance alone. Turok was one of the first games to have skeletal animation though and that was pretty cool. Also texture filtering, if that matters.
But quake had better draw distance and lighting.
Graphics aside quake had better gameplay and level design...
Turok is a cool game and all, but Quake does blow it out of the water.

[Anonymous No.6751335]

>>6751330
Did quake have a better draw distance though? Are there any massive open rooms in quake? Not really. It's mostly just small rooms. Turok could have done that too. There's small rooms in turok that you can see perfectly fine in. The only fog shit is when there's a large open area.

[Anonymous No.6751504]

>>6751335
Turokfag Cope detected

[Anonymous No.6751523]

God, I hate Cuck Blood for creating quake worshipping zoomies. Just you watch, as soon as Grimwood comes out, Thief threads are going to fucking flood this place.

[Anonymous No.6751550]

>>6748929
I was a PC purist at the time it came out. I remember it turned some heads(for a very short time that is), even of people who didn't own a N64.
I bought the PC port when it came out later that year.

[Anonymous No.6751559]

>>6751335
Quake did have a better draw distance. There are many rooms that are longer than Turoks maximum draw distance. Hell the first level has at least one. The E1 secret map is essentially a large pyramid with a much greater draw distance.

[Anonymous No.6751574]

>>6750520
>>6750705
Nice, so I'll look into 1 and 2 then.
Is there an overarching plot, or nah? Just curious.

[Anonymous No.6751595]

Goldeneye gets extra credit for having mission objectives when that was a novelty. Turok has way better combat though. Goldeneye is one those FPS games where literally every enemy is "guy with a gun". And that gets boring after awhile. The level design in Turok is great too, if its too confusing then you need to play some Doom levels to improve your spatial awareness & memory.

[Anonymous No.6751597]

>>6751523
We usually have one consistent Thief thread anyway.
New Blood didn't make quake worshipping zoomies anyway. That's all in your head.

[Anonymous No.6751598]

>>6751574
Only 3 follows 2's plot, but really only for a second. Basically, you're family with the MC from 2 in 3, and when he dies you have to take the place as Turok.

[Anonymous No.6751601]

>>6751574
Kind of.
defeating the final boss of the first game (DH) triggers the awakening of the final boss of the second game (soe).
Defeating the final boss of the second game with the good ending then triggers the awakening of the antagonist of the 3rd game (soo)
Of course, none of this is explained in the games and instead is part of the extended universe.

[Anonymous No.6751602]

>>6751559
Q1 shat itself on low end and mid tier hardware back in the day if you managed to arrange enough map geo in plain visibility.
Something like the complex Q1 maps of today would be unplayable in 1996.

[Anonymous No.6751603]

>>6751597
They really did though, or we wouldn't have so many zoomie devs making their own version of Dusk so daddy Fuck Blood will publish them. It's fucking sad.

[Anonymous No.6751643]

>>6751603
What the fuck are you talking about. Name three.

[Anonymous No.6751689]

>>6751602
This.

[Anonymous No.6751701]

>>6751602
>Something like the complex Q1 maps of today would be unplayable in 1996.
Well yeah. How well would they run in the Turok engine?
I had the minimum requirements for Quake in 1996 and it ran fine that I can remember. If there was any slowdown it may have been in that secret level mentioned. I vaguely remember standing in the corner of that map and seeing the fps drop.

[Anonymous No.6751703]

Has anyone else noticed the controlles in the first one are better then the second?

[Anonymous No.6751707]

>>6748929
The platforming in this game is extremely tedious.

[Anonymous No.6751746]

>>6751701
Looking at other peoples results I could be misremembering. We had a 75mhz pentium computer at the time, and a 133 later, but we may have got the 133mhz around the same time as Quake... So I probably had the 75mhz hand-me-down while Quake got played on the better machine. Either way, what we had wasn't absurd for a gaming rig at the time. It does seem to play a bit shit on the lowest requirements if youtube is anything to go by.
>>6751703
I just wish I could un-invert the camera, really. I just bought Turok 2 the other day and it's hard for me to adapt after years of a different standard.

[Anonymous No.6751752]

>>6751643
Hrot, ASKE (or something like that, you'll probably see them on twitter), and I forget the name of one that showed up on /agdg/. And probably 3 more floating around on twitter.

[Anonymous No.6751757]

>>6751752
Wow. How dare some obscure indie devs be inspired by Quake. Probably filthy zoomers too. You tell em.

[Anonymous No.6751762]

>>6750472
It's actually pretty great, and holds up very well among other retro fps.

[Anonymous No.6751770]

>>6751757
Well, Quake is shit, so they're destined to be shit too

[Anonymous No.6751779]

>>6751752
>HROT
Fair. That's a pretty obvious shit-tier rip off
>ASKE
I follow a lot of retro FPS people on twitter, but I've never seen this until you mentioned it.
>/agdg/
not gonna make it
Fair enough though, you (practically) named three. More than I was aware existed, and at least one is actually made by a zoomie.
Though I've seen a lot of games in this genre get started and then lose track or fade away. So we'll see how many get made. HROT and ASKE seem like they're made by competent people, but fuck, they're so close to being made in the DUSK dev kit that why the fuck even bother.

I doubt there's enough room in the market for people who don't bring anything new or interesting to the table. At least dusk focused on absurdifying old school movement and making everything punchy and solid regardless of if it would be broken. These sorta just look like kneecapped versions of that.

[Anonymous No.6751785]

>>6751779
For as much as I hate Cuck Blood for inspiring uncreative people to create poorly done quake clones, I actually enjoy Dusk. It's like Quake, if Quake was actually good.

[Anonymous No.6751787]

>>6751779
>What the fuck are you talking about, name three
>I follow a lot of retro FPS people on twitter
Oh. You were using me to find more people. Well played.

[Anonymous No.6751796]

>>6751785
I like Quake, Dusk is good too though...
Turok I never really got into, because I didn't have an N64 until I married into one. It's fine. Something about the gameplay is satisfying. Hits feel solid without feeling chunky if that makes sense. Like when you shoot a monster it feels like soft tissue rather than shooting a meat wall. Quake does an okay job at making your hits feel solid and having effect (monsters staggering, blood, gibs) but the *squish* of hitting soft flesh is somewhere lost.
Someday a retrofps will combine all the best parts of the old games and hopefully add something new. Or not. What the fuck do I know.

[Anonymous No.6751798]

>>6751787
>Oh. You were using me to find more people. Well played.
lel.
No. I just happen to due to the communities I run with. I'm not following these ones. They haven't shown diddly that I really care about, really.

[Anonymous No.6751813]

>>6751796
It's held back by it's original controls, I personally think. The platforming is leagues harder on 64. The PC rerelease makes it a LOT easier to play. I love the simplicity of it's levels and how you find keys to unlock more levels. It's soundtrack is fucking great (especially Ancient City). The invincibility power up blew my mind when I was a kid and I still find its effect cool today. I know with racial sensitivity being higher than ever these days, and it also has always been kind of eggshell covered ground, but I wish there were more native american starring video games. Turok has always been on my top FPS list.

[Anonymous No.6751831]

>>6751002
Turok 2 went too crazy with the level design and mission objectives, it's pretty fucking hard to figure out what to do without a guide and even if you use one the levels are still too long.

[Anonymous No.6751840]

>>6751831
Its levels are too maze like, you get lost so easily, and portals warping you everywhere, it's even easier to be lost. It had some fine advancements though, like the triceratop ride, enemies reach ing to where you hit them, and the skills you eventually learn to access new areas in a level, but they're just too easy to get lost in.

[Anonymous No.6751856]

>>6751813
There's Turok, Prey, The SNES Pocahontas game that's actually kinda fun... That's all that really springs to mind. Not many. I kinda wonder if the worry about misrepresentation or appropriation is keeping the culture from being used as a base for more games. They have a lot of fun myths that just about every American is aware of or find interesting. But instead we kinda just skirt around it in fantasy...

[Anonymous No.6751875]

>>6748929
Legendary game, fuck pc normies unable to see greatness besides their shitty computers. They have no sense of context or anything, the world would be better without them.

[Anonymous No.6751886]

>>6751856
In an interview with the Prey devs, they had to appeal their game to a board of native americans to show that it didn't portray them in a bad light. They talked with a lot of people in a reservation to make sure they weren't stepping on toes. I think this is why not many are made, which is understandable, but I just wish more games would have them as main characters. The newest game I've seen is This Land is My Land.

[Anonymous No.6751914]

i just saw there's a hd remaster of 2 for pc and they "took out the annoying fog"
bro.. its supposed to be there as well as being technical reasons. its fucking atmospheric.
like they even took it out on a night level where the fog is how they implemented darkness.. now the night jungle just feels like a weird office
great job

[Anonymous No.6751920]

>>6748929
>greatest FPS
if only the FPS wasn't 12 at best
in 2 at least i can't remember if 1 is like that

[Anonymous No.6751925]

>>6751886
>which is understandable,
The hoops they apparently have to jump through isn't, imo. Thats a lot of bullshit. Don't worry about stepping on toes. Just make some cool shit, and if you REALLY feel concerned about it just ask some indians how they feel.

Fuck that.

[Anonymous No.6751932]

>>6751925
I feel like an indie wouldn't have to be necessarily jump through that many hoops, but then they would probably have to worry about the SJW crowd attempting to cancel you if they think you're somehow being insensitive. Eggshells everywhere, as usual.

[Anonymous No.6754142]

>>6751248

that's the point. its as much of a dungeon crawler as it is an FPS

[Anonymous No.6754154]

>>6751914

you can enable the fog if you want its not a big deal

[Anonymous No.6754158]

>>6748937
The blood looks really good. It's definetly a painted 2d sprite, but it almost looks like an advanced particle system from today's games. I wonder why it looks so jaggy-free.

[Anonymous No.6754194]

>>6751831
They actually added some on screen pointers to the new PC port, which I would usually hate, but honestly, it's a much needed help at times.

[Anonymous No.6754198]

>playing an FPS with the worst console controller ever
Why do people hate good controls and gameplay? The N64 is a crime against gaming.

[Anonymous No.6754209]

>>6754198

>4 buttons for movement
>stick for aiming

how is this any different from a mouse/kb setup?

pic related is without a doubt the worst console controller ever made

[Anonymous No.6754681]

>>6751275
>inferior graphics
Quake still holds up today because, much like doom, it heavily leans into it's chunky artstyle. The low poly monsters combine very well with the lovecraftian other-diminsions that it takes place in. It's purposefully abstract.
Turok, unreal, half life, and goldeneye all aged like fucking milk in comparison in their effort to be "as graphically good as possible".The realism ironically makes them look even worse. Not to mention
>fps on a console
Stupid console shitter.

[Anonymous No.6754690]

Quake was never good.

[Anonymous No.6754691]

>>6751770
>quake is shit
slowfag detected. Please, neck yourself.

[Anonymous No.6754776]

>>6748929
Goldeneye was a lot more approachable for normalfags. A movie tie in, a well known protagonist, 100% human enemies (and the quirky behaviors tied to them like shooting them in the hand for laughs). Goldeneye also had objectives which made it seem a bit deeper than the objective just being "kill everything you see and head to the next area"

I fucking love Turok 1 and 2, but it's not like they shit all over Goldeneye. It had its own high points too.

[Anonymous No.6754876]

>>6754209
I like the ps1 pad. Sure, it's no Saturn or SNES, but it's a decently solid controller. I'd rather play games with it than the N64, Dreamcast, NES, or 3-button Genesis controllers.

[Anonymous No.6754901]

>there's a hack that gives t3 true m+kb controls, 60 frames and fov options
where have you been all my life.

[Anonymous No.6754906]

>>6754901
The framerate was a bummer in Turok 3, but now you just need to triple the enemy count.