/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.6744109]

Be honest, how much money have you spent on cables?

[Anonymous No.6744119]

>>6744109
not enough, recommend me good composite male to male cables

[Anonymous No.6744165]

>>6744119
>male to male

[Anonymous No.6744171]

Probably like $200 altogether for RGB/component cables for 10 consoles, plus a bit more for various adapters and converters. Still need a VGA cable for my Dreamcast.

[Anonymous No.6744175]

I just get the cheapest ones I can find on eBay, and they have worked just fine for me. I don’t get autistic about image quality on a CRT. It worked for me when I was 6 and it’s working great for me at 26.

[Anonymous No.6744178]

$30, for s video

[Anonymous No.6744228]

>>6744119
>composite
get whatever lol
>>6744175
cheap cables suck dick because of audio noise
enjoy the BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

[Anonymous No.6744229]

>>6744175
It's not about image quality so much as cable quality. All that chink shit on ebay comes apart and starts to fray at the ends when unplugging it a few times. Cables manufactured in the 80s/90s can hold up forever with proper care.

[Anonymous No.6744239]

Thousands, easily. Monster cables really are worth it, if you absolutely must have the absolute best signal.

[Anonymous No.6744272]

>>6744239
The problem with Monster is the absolute garbage quality connectors they use. Their RCA connectors grip so tightly they can actually rip the outer rings right off the jacks they're connected to.

[Anonymous No.6744292]

>>6744272
Monster Cables grab female RCA sockets by the pussy.

[Anonymous No.6744323]

>>6744292
And they just let you when you cost a billion dollars

[Anonymous No.6744330]

>>6744109
>Be honest, how much money have you spent on cables?
I honestly lost track, but it's almost certainly within the range of $500 at this point.

Protip: Try to build as much of your setup around VGA cabling as possible. It's the sweet spot of affordability and space-consciousness.

[Anonymous No.6744373]

I just use my Wii for everything 240p so only like 30 bucks

[Anonymous No.6744389]

>>6744330
>Protip: Try to build as much of your setup around VGA cabling as possible. It's the sweet spot of affordability and space-consciousness.
I wish someone had told me to do that when I started. I'm too deep into the SCART ecosystem now.

[Anonymous No.6744412]

>>6744330
>Protip: Try to build as much of your setup around VGA cabling as possible. It's the sweet spot of affordability and space-consciousness.
It's also the highest quality analog signal.

[Anonymous No.6744414]

>>6744412
Why did Europe have to be retarded and not go NTSC/VGA?

[Anonymous No.6744439]

>>6744412
Well, RGB in general is, not just VGA.

[Anonymous No.6744465]

>>6744389
>I'm too deep into the SCART ecosystem now.
I started out the same but thankfully shifted course before I plunked down on a serious SCART switch. Get some SCART to VGA + RCA pin converters and sell off your current SCART switch to someone who gets all their info from MLIG. With a little digging, you can get an Extron MVX 88 for less than a third of the cost of a Hydra. Even after accounting for additional the VGA and audio cabling you'd need to buy, you'll still have money left over from making the trade and be able to output to more displays than your current SCART switch ever could.

It's got all of the benefits of an Extron Crosspoint setup while being slim enough to squeeze under a TV stand on a hardwood floor.

[Anonymous No.6744584]

>>6744109
Well over $100k. But I've sold all but a relative handful for a handsome profit.

[Anonymous No.6744658]

>>6744465
Why the fuck are you not just using component

[Anonymous No.6744673]

>>6744658
>implying you can’t pass component through a VGA switch
I already do that. It also handles routing Composite, S-Video, RGBS, and RGBHV signals through the exact same boxes across 9 video lines.

[Anonymous No.6744683]

>>6744673
tell me the s-video isn't for the shitcube

[Anonymous No.6744690]

On just cables? Probably between $700 and $800 AUD including postage. If we include other stuff like paying for mods to allow consoles output RGB and HDMI, modding fees, and a Framemeister, It'd be closer to $1500 AUD.

[Anonymous No.6744693]

>>6744683
It's for the partially-visible C128 on the tray in the upper-left.

[Anonymous No.6745589]

Not many, I mostly use the native composite or components, whenever available. I just two fairly expensive purchases on my belt:
- The official GCN components cable (around cost me around $70 circa 2012, not that much considering how much it goes for now)
- A RGB VGA to YPbPr Components cable transcoder for a PC. You mighty consider all the shit I ended up buying for this build as a video connection expense also (specific video card for crt_emudriver, etc.)

[Anonymous No.6745641]

>>6744373
The only true based answer here.

[Anonymous No.6745651]

$650. I bought a cheap scart cable off ebay and soldered it to work with BNC connectors on my TV, then one of the sync wires shorted with ground and ruined the input board on my Megaview 29. Had to pay some foreigner to diagnose and fix.

[Anonymous No.6745654]

At least $750,000

[Anonymous No.6745701]

I bought some of the original component cables for PS2, Wii, and all that when they were new back in the day. I was sticking with a Toshiba CRT at the time because it was superior to LCDs, and I needed the best video, and that was it.

It's crazy how plentiful the cables were back then, and of generally decent quality. Official cables were just everywhere.

I have away the Toshiba a long time ago, but I still have all the cables, and bought a few new ones from HDRetrovision, because there's just no way I was going to buy SCART.

Picked up a 32 inch Sony Trinitron from 1999, and my God does component look amazing. You can actually see the difference between S-Video and component on it.

I wish CRT could come back somehow. My Sony OLED is nice, but even with Geometry issues, nothing displays 240p and 480i as nicely as a CRT.

[Anonymous No.6746738]

>>6744109
More than I'd like to admit, I would guess over the course of 30 years I spent over $300USD on the cables, switches, and line doublers. I made the now mistake of going with JP-21, which was all that was available at the time. I spent for the JP-21 to SCART converter, but I will probably make the expensive changeover to SCART one day.

[Anonymous No.6746776]

>>6744109
I bought one of those good snes/n64 s-video cables by that scandinavian dude for $25, a scart to bnc adapter so I could reverse engineer it. Made about 6 of my own with monoprice cables cut in half for about $75. Random cheap cables to gut the ends from or just to use $40. That's probably about it, but all my consoles are covered and can be hooked up at the same time. Oh, and an extron for like $50 shipped that included all the phoenix connectors for audio. I could have got away with much less, but I have it setup so I can play on any of 3 tvs and play different things at once when friends are over. I don't really care price wise though because it fit in my budget and I bought them over a couple years as I got the consoles and flash carts I wanted to get. I already had some but the oddballs had to be purchased.

[Anonymous No.6746789]

>>6746738
>$300USD over 30 years
That's like nothing then

[Anonymous No.6746790]

>>6746738
>but I will probably make the expensive changeover to SCART one day
If you end up getting the soldering setup to change batteries in your carts, you should be able to re route the wires in the scart head, might be able to turn the JP-21 into scart this way. I'm not positive but I think you can do this. It's pretty easy work as far as soldering goes.

[Anonymous No.6746878]

>>6744109
150 bucks maybe, not including my OSSC and rgb2comp. Got those nice resurrection scart cables for my SNES and Genesis, some cheapo svideo cable for my GCN and N64, and some random component cables for the PS2.

[Anonymous No.6747035]

>>6744109
For my current setup, peanuts. Over the years, a dump truck full of peanuts, for enough "best cables to use" to pair up with systems I've passed along.

[Anonymous No.6747442]

>>6746738
So you spend $299 on modern meme shit and bought a NES RF cable 30 years ago. Yup, you're retarded.

[Anonymous No.6747920]

>>6746789
Well, it was probably a lot more than that. I just haven't given the thought of the total amount much time. It was definitely a lot of money.

>>6746790
Once this pandemic is cleared, I will try to start saving up for the soldering tools. I hope by March 2021 I should have enough to get started.

>>6747442
The NES deluxe set came with the RF cable 30 years ago. These days I use my Super Retro Trio which comes with standard RCA AV cables. Its NES output even with S-Video is composite only.

[Anonymous No.6748041]

>>6747920
Hey I've been away. How did your retro PC build go?

[Anonymous No.6748109]

>>6744109
Fucking nothing because I work at best buy and our employee discount is 10% above cost to stock the item.
A $20 insignia cable can come to as low as 71 cents.

[Anonymous No.6748273]

>>6748109
This is nice but having a real job and being able to treat $20 like it's 71 cents is better. Unless you're great at customer service and not a total dick, in which case please stay at Best Buy and be happy with your discount.

[Anonymous No.6748381]

>>6744109
I know I'm likely in the minority here, but I don't care about getting the best signal out of my retro consoles. For one, it's insanely expensive for top of the line stuff for what ultimately boils down to a minor improvement. More importantly, it isn't how I remember the games, or really how the games were expected to be viewed by the developers. To me, one the finest elements of retro gaming is recapturing an era I have fond memories of and great nostalgia for. Recreating the circumstances of that era seems only appropriate. Consumer-grade CRT TV with RCA cables, sometimes even RF. That's how people played games back then, it's how I played games back then. That's what I'm trying to reclaim. I understand most don't feel the same, but to me, modernize the experience by modding my systems for RGB or using the highest grade cables or using professional monitors invalidates the experience to an extent. To me it almost feels as disingenuous as playing on an emulator. That isn't to say that there is anything wrong with modernizing the experience, or using emulators. But when it comes to stepping back in time to that era, nothing to me feels more genuine than the most basic of setups.

[Anonymous No.6748407]

>>6748381
>I know I'm likely in the minority here, but I don't care about getting the best signal out of my retro consoles.
"Best" is fairly case dependent. If you're into Genesis for instance, you more or less have to have a Composite output option handy since a ton of games heavily use dithering effects that don't work properly on S-Video, Component, or RGB signals.

[Anonymous No.6748440]

>>6748381
The European SNES pad in that pic of a very American-looking room is triggering me

[Anonymous No.6748443]

>>6748440
*and console

[Anonymous No.6748613]

>>6748273
>$15 an hour
>steep discounts on tech
>stupidly easy
>flexible hours leave plenty of time for shit posting
Don't need to make more if everything's cheap, dumbass boomer.

[Anonymous No.6748684]

>>6748613
Society's obsession with "getting a real job" is overblown and frankly pathetic. If you're safe and happy, that's all that matters. In most areas of the US, $15/hr full time is enough to live on. If you can work that job and maintain a healthy, balanced lifestyle, you're already living a much better life than many of the higher-earning people who tell you to get a "real job."

[Anonymous No.6749181]

>>6748613
>I'm happy where I am but angry at you
Neat, keep living in a world where 71 cent cables is a flex

[Anonymous No.6749227]

Seems like the appropriate thread to ask instead of making a new one.
I have an LCD TV in the living room I want to hook up my Saturn whenever friends are over but the TV only has component in, no S-Video, and my TV can't recognize the signal.
For anyone that owns the following devices, what would be the best option the RetroTink-2X Mini or Koryuu. I will not get a CRT. This is just a casual set up.

[Anonymous No.6749292]

>>6744109
Not much, Bought a cheap VGA cable that goes from my pc to my transcoder and a cheap component video cable that goes from the transcoder to my CRT.

[Anonymous No.6749307]

>>6748041
Still underway. Now it is the ancillary parts that need attention. Such as providing power with a UPS. I am still hunting for someone in the area to repair CRT monitors. I hope to start practicing soldering once the pandemic clears, in case capacitors need replacing.

[Anonymous No.6749320]

for video in general, probably hundreds, possibly thousands lol

for video games maybe $20

[Anonymous No.6749327]

>>6749227
If this is a casual enough application, have you tried using composite output on the Saturn into the green Y jack of your TV's component input? You may automatically get B&W video or color video (if your TV detects that you are using composite), or you may have to select an option in the TV's OSD.

[Anonymous No.6749345]

lit. nothing always used the included ones. worked like a charm. the ps3 did not have any HDMI. i had one laying around.

[Anonymous No.6749346]

>>6749327
I have done that and was unable to get a signal. No options in the TV lead to the signal being detected either unfortunately. I know the component input works as I do hook up other devices through it, but my Saturn, PS1 and N64 just won't work on the TV.

[Anonymous No.6749372]

>>6749346
Then it's RF time

[Anonymous No.6749392]

>retro have fallen for the same snake oil cable scam like audiophiles

why?

[Anonymous No.6749467]

>>6749227
OSSC and dont look back

[Anonymous No.6749529]

>>6744109
anon i.....

i have hyperkin hdmi cables for the following systems:
snes/n64/gamecube, sega genesis, sega dreamcast, sega saturn

hdmi chink adapters for the following: ps1, wii, ps2

repurchased power supplies for:
ps3, ps2, pc engine, atari 2600

& required extenders/modulators for
magnavox odyssey 2, colecovision/intellivision


i have spent more on cords than i care to admit

final piece of kit is a nice line doubler for the pc engine super cd addon & 3DO

[Anonymous No.6749542]

>>6749529
>i have hyperkin hdmi cables for the following systems:
>snes/n64/gamecube, sega genesis, sega dreamcast, sega saturn

>hdmi chink adapters for the following: ps1, wii, ps2
lmao

[Anonymous No.6749570]

>>6749227
Rad2X.

[Anonymous No.6751230]

>>6749529
>hyperkin
Why would you do this

[Anonymous No.6751294]

Why does RGC no longer sell cables with these colorful labels? I think they look really nice.

[Anonymous No.6751860]

>>6751230
so the kids can play in the livingroom
also its a 75inch flat panel
honestly i was expecting worse from hyperkin per their track record with controllers and other "retro" crap

but for the price its not bad
the only one that's objectively bad is the n64 one and its still usuable

[Anonymous No.6751867]

>>6751860
Are you the same fuckwit from the PS3 thread? Either way, you're a genuine fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.6751868]

>>6744109
$0.00
I still just use the composite cables the console came with. It looks fine and I don't even get crappy audio buzzing or anything.

[Anonymous No.6751891]

>>6744109
More than I'm proud to admit. Mostly I've gotten my cables pretty cheap in goodwill bins, but every now and again I just want that damn monster brand of one certain type of cable, and I'll drop $10 on it to get my mind off it. Spent $30 on a big bin of mostly monster and other similar quality rca, toslink, coaxial, s-video, and even some phone cables that I'll be using for lan connection.
God I'm dumb, but when I see the monster logo, sometimes I can't help myself.

it hasn't become a financial problem yet, just takes up way more time in my head than it aught to.
Other than that, one scart cable for every console, but that doesn't take up nearly as much time in my mind seeing as there is basically two ways of getting those, and I'm god awful at the cheaper option.
pic related, everything I have that isn't a scart cable, and isn't already hooked up.

[Anonymous No.6751935]

>>6749467
Then I have to buy additional cables since I don'tbelieve OSSC accepts S-Video. I don't want to do that.

[Anonymous No.6751942]

>>6751891
>monster
>quality
sure if you enjoy your jacks and ports getting destroyed
>>6751935
s-video is the ultimate pleb magnet. Don't tell me you think it's "almost as good" as RGB too kek
It lacks the dither blending of composite and isn't anywhere near as good as RGB, especially on a fucking flat panel.

[Anonymous No.6751958]

>>6751942
>sure if you enjoy your jacks and ports getting destroyed
Have you tried being more gentle? I've found wiggling and twisting tends to get the job done without too much stress. My biggest issue is fitting it in the rca s-video and composite switcher I have.

[Anonymous No.6751962]

>>6751958
Twisting RCA jacks absolutely destroys them, they're not designed to be torqued

[Anonymous No.6751969]

>>6751962
Well regardless I'm not setting up cables to constantly be removing them. If they clamp down too hard to be removed then that means they're doing a good job. Plan to have everything set up so I never have to do that anyway. I'll take your advice about the torque though.

[Anonymous No.6752007]

>>6751969
>If they clamp down too hard to be removed then that means they're doing a good job
Dumbest fucking sentence I read today. Good job.

[Anonymous No.6752008]

>>6752007
your welcome

[Anonymous No.6752186]

>>6751867
have you actually played ps1 on a ps3 anon?

>imagine being this assblasted
anon you are literally wrong and should feel bad directing people to buy expensive ps3 setups when there are legitimately cheaper/better alternatives

[Anonymous No.6752337]

over $250

[Anonymous No.6752553]

>>6744109
every cable costs about 30 plus/minus 10% depending on the cable and shipping
SFC, Gamecube, PS1/2/3, MD and Wii RGB Scart cables.
N64 and Saturn came with RGB cables.
I got a "free" cable from RGC when they released their multi-out multi-console PAL RGB cable for testing purposes that I got to keep too.
I got Component cables for Wii and PSP GO for incredibly cheap but paid a lot for a proper MiSTer (D-Sub to SCART) RGB cable but was super worth it.

[Anonymous No.6752560]

>>6752553
and when I bought my DC it came with a nice VGA Box.
Plus a SCART to BNC cable for use on my gscart... the monies for cables definitely rack up.
But now my setup is essentially perfect.

[Anonymous No.6752576]

>>6748381
B A S E D

[Anonymous No.6753160]

Hi guys, what do you think of my order? Is it okay to go with sync on luma over csync?

[Anonymous No.6753294]

>>6744109
None, I use all the cables that originally came with my consoles.

[Anonymous No.6753423]

Probably about 150 dollars I expect. Mostly just because now I spend 50 on nice scart cables, the rest were cheap ass component cables or s video cables. Just waiting for a rgb to component transcoder for playing original hardware with component instead of buying the HD israelvision expensive as fuck cables.

[Anonymous No.6753426]

>>6753160
>Is it okay to go with sync on luma over csync?
Yes. I'd recommend it in most cases, in fact. Fewer weird edge cases to worry about.

[Anonymous No.6753431]

>>6753426
Thank you for the advice, anon!

[Anonymous No.6753760]

>>6753294
>all the cables that originally came with my consoles
So the answer isn't "none" but "an unknown subsidized amount"

[Anonymous No.6753918]

SNES RGB = $50
N64/GC S-Vid = $35
Wii component = $6
Genesis RGB = DIY $10
so like a hundred bucks or so total but I bought them all before prices went up
protip: medical PVMs usually have more switchable inputs

[Anonymous No.6754275]

>>6753760
Okay, sure.

[Anonymous No.6754741]

>>6753760

[Anonymous No.6755886]

>>6748381
i still use rca / rf anon


the hd cables are for playing anywhere but my own room

[Anonymous No.6757047]

>>6755886
Holy reddit spacing redditboi

[Anonymous No.6757184]

>>6744109
maybe 10-20 a cable, I only ever bought an s-video for gamecube and a component cable for wii, and that works for everything that would warrant a better output anyway.

[Anonymous No.6757283]

>>6744109
Probably like $15 bucks.

[Anonymous No.6758789]

Probably close to $100.
Bought a POUND HDMI Cable for my Model 1 Mega Drive before I knew better, and currently have a Nintendo Multi-Out RAD2X on order, which I recently received a UGREEN Mini HDMI to Standard HDMI adapter for.

[Anonymous No.6758987]

HD
RETRO
VISION

[Anonymous No.6759009]

>>6748381
I don’t think I have ever seen a post that perfectly describes exactly how I feel about this topic.

I prefer to play it just the way I did back in the day.

[Anonymous No.6759010]

>>6758987
IS
OVER
PRICED

[Anonymous No.6759053]

>>6759010
STILL
CHEAPER
THAN OEM COMPONENT

[Anonymous No.6759064]

>>6759053
OEM COMPONENT
IS NOT
RETRO

[Anonymous No.6759225]

>>6759064
PS1 ON PS2
IS
RETRO

[Anonymous No.6759250]

>>6759225
>I played Super Metroid on my Nintendo switch with HDMI

:)

[Anonymous No.6759379]

>>6744465
Any information on how to set this up? I'd love a switcher that can do pretty much everything and have the same cables.

[Anonymous No.6760195]

>>6757047
what is with you autists

im on fucking mobile bc i have a job to work at unlike you fucking bums

pressing the returnkey doesn't mean you are from reddit you gigantic faggot

[Anonymous No.6760208]

>>6744465
>>6759379
Before SCART hype took the newbie world by the groin, I remember reading how the gamesx guy standardized on DE-9 of all things.

[Anonymous No.6760308]

>>6744465
Man that looks clean. If I wasn't too retarded to know how to set that up and hadn't already bought a Gscart and Gcomp like a monkey I'd like an extron set up like that. How does it work though. It seems like you omit scart? So how is each system set up? I use a 20L5 though so having all my Scart systems hooked up to the base RGB bnc inputs and having all my component systems rigged to the bkm-129x is really convenient.

[Anonymous No.6760382]

>>6760195
>i'm a retarded angry redditot

[Anonymous No.6760864]

>>6744109
15$.
I bought one of those cheap composite to HDMI box and a Composite switch box so that I didn't have to keep plugging them in and out when switching consoles

[Anonymous No.6760886]

>>6760864
>hdmi
Fuck you.

[Anonymous No.6760917]

>>6746738
>rgb
>scart
>upscalers

[Anonymous No.6760929]

>>6760917
Nice selfie

[Anonymous No.6760994]

Over $300 probably. I got full pack-a-punch RGB cables for all my consoles because sunken cost fallacy.

[Anonymous No.6761786]

>>6760195
Then get off 4shit and do your fucking job faggot

[Anonymous No.6763785]

>>6760917
They are not SCART but JP21.

[Anonymous No.6763819]

>>6744330
>Protip: Try to build as much of your setup around VGA cabling as possible.
How do you go around this?
Is there some cool switcher available?
How you wire DIN-15 inside?
Show more pics.

[Anonymous No.6765646]

>>6747920
You wanna get rid of the Nintendo JP21 cable? I’ll buy it.

[Anonymous No.6765691]

>>6744330
>VGA
Based. It's impossible to buy a shitty VGA cable because they really do need proper shielding to operate in their normal use case, as opposed to stupid SCART cables which are all chink garbage or overpriced gourmet ones. There really isn't any reason for SCART cabling unless you're balls deep into meme equipment or are an european.

I use a GBS with the Rama mod so I'd go that route if I wanted to bother making VGA cables for my consoles, but for now I just use chink SCART to transport RGB signals (since my GBS has a scart board addon), they're noisy on some solid colors but the image is still incredibly sharp. Good enough for me.

[Anonymous No.6765692]

>>6746738
>horrible handwriting guy is still here avatarfagging and seeking attention with his game shit
You have serious self esteem issues my dude.

[Anonymous No.6765709]

>>6763785
Pro tip: Stop replying to this RGB soidiot and they will stop posting this nonsense.

[Anonymous No.6766516]

>>6765691
Crap VGA cables exist if you accidentally buy really old ones designed for lower resolutions or the pack-ins that came with really low end KVMs, etc. Thick + ferrite core are all you really need to look for to find good ones. This is more of an "I had this problem 20 years ago" thing than something to worry about now, though.

>chink garbage
Even the good ones are made in China anon, no need to come off like a memer. It's not like good VGA cables are handcrafted in Switzerland one at a time. The thing about China is they'll make whatever big companies pay them to make, from crappy to excellent - and yet they only get blamed for the crap.

[Anonymous No.6767080]

>tfw poor people will get mad at anons who spend hundreds on expensive cables now
Why are they so poor? The white collar vs blue collar thing is so divisive for /vr/. Every argument comes down to "hurr you're wasting money/hoarding." Why would you seethe at people willing to pay more for a better experience and why would you care how others spend money?

[Anonymous No.6767182]

>>6767080

They try to act as though they care about others saving money. No they don't. They care that people are buying what they can't afford.

[Anonymous No.6767325]

>>6767182
Really good point. I can't fathom people being bothered by others having fun. It really doesn't impact them.

[Anonymous No.6767517]

>>6767080
>>6767182
>>6767325
Same reason they get so passionate when someone mentions buying or collecting games. The concept drives them to tears because they think the only things you're ever supposed to buy in your gaming life is a big enough hard drive and a fast enough internet connection.