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6734795 No.6734795 [Reply] [Original]

>feel like playing pokemon red for nostaliga
>look up what's a good emulator
>consensus seems to be retroarch
>look up the countless docs on how to set it up
>spend hours downloading several gigabytes of assets files most of which arent even related to pokemon
>spend hours building retroarch
>finally, two days later i can play pokemon red
>my urge to play it has already diminished
>delete retroarch

why do people praise this bloated waste of time again?

>> No.6734798

>building software
>at all
Unless you're a dev this is a complete waste of time and exactly why shit like Linux has never taken off.

>> No.6734805

>>6734795
Just use Visualboy Advance for GB/C/GBA games. You can even get the Advance stuff in color games by activating GBA mode

>> No.6734828
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6734828

>sudo apt install mednaffe
>set controller input
>play pokemon

>> No.6734831

>>6734795
the sheer ineptitude of OP and countless others

>> No.6734962
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>>6734795
>>spend hours downloading several gigabytes of assets files most of which arent even related to pokemon
>>spend hours building retroarch
why would you do that

>> No.6734989

Did RA make cores available to download again yet?

>> No.6734992

>>6734795
>spend hours downloading several gigabytes of assets files most of which arent even related to pokemon
>spend hours building retroarch
>hours
>gigabytes
Are you retarded?

>> No.6735006

I wanted to use a hammer, so I built a smithy.

>> No.6735016

>>6734798
>Never taken off
>The most widespread kernel ever
ok...

>> No.6735028

>download retroarch release build for my system
>launch, download core, find gameboy core
>load pokemon rom with gameboy core
wow so hard so complicated
>controller already preconfigured
>at most fine tune the resolution/scaling

>> No.6735030

Retroarch is only really good for emulator boxes trying to mimic consoles, I don't think anyone should use it on a PC.

>> No.6735031

Why the fuck would you use retroarch? Just download gambatte or sameboy and open your rom in that, done.

>> No.6735034
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6735034

>undo save state save
>undo save state load
>saves all in one place for easy backup
>variety of shaders
>runahead of better than original latency
>unified control input defaults with autodetection
>can use multiple input devices per player simulatenously
>built-in online updater
>never have to reconfigure video output
>can easily edit settings with joystick without getting up
>frontend is entirely optional, can launch roms any way you want to
RA is a blessing to anyone who emulates more than 1 game every year.
You are not superior for pretending a bunch of dropdown menus inside programs that store files all over your harddrive is better.

>> No.6735040

>>6735028
>download core
There's your problem. This isn't currently available because the retroarch team are preventing all downloads until we send them money in this weird software hostage bullshit.

>> No.6735043

>>6735034
hi daniel

>> No.6735045

>>6734795
OP is retarded. It checks out.

>> No.6735050

>>6734795
retroarch is like 11 megs installed, did you install gentoo or something?

>> No.6735052

>>6735045
It's undeniable that retroarch is cumbersome and poorly programmed.

>> No.6735054

>>6735030
if you think retroarch is just a 10 foot rom picker then you're missing out

>> No.6735056

>>6735052
it may appear so looking from the perspective of a retard

>> No.6735065

>>6734795
>>6735043
>>6735052
samefag
a schizo buttblasted eternally from RA

>> No.6735067

>>6735056
>calling the other person a retard
Truly the strongest argument anyone gave in support of retroarch.

>> No.6735073

>>6735067
Sorry, just calling a thing for what it is.

>> No.6735081

>>6735065
>samefag
nope

>> No.6735085

>>6735054
I'm not a fan of autistically fidgeting with menus and settings.

>> No.6735094

>>6735073
apology accepted

>> No.6735103

>>6735094
Glad we sorted it out, retard.

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>>6735065
how did you know?

>> No.6735120

>>6735108
lmao. I'm
>>6735052

>> No.6735123

Retroarch is awful, and you throw away 10% of your processing power by using it. Just go with standalones, they're way better.

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>>6735120
what the...

>> No.6735141

>It's the hacker known as 4chan who is obsessed with "daniel" episode
this get so tiresome, don't you get sick of being dumb?

>> No.6735145

>>6735085
then don't

>> No.6735146

>>6735123
who'd have thought low latency and drc had a cost
it's a bit slower for a reason, if you want 5 frames of latency and the occational frame drop from misalignment with your screen's refresh rate, then go right ahead, nobody is forcing you to use retroarch

>> No.6735150

>>6734795
Probably an ironic post but retroarch really has damaged the retro scene a lot. They take money away from the developers doing actual work, and a lot of people's first experience with emulation is through this confusing, half-assed mess.

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>>6734795
Should have gotten original hardware

>> No.6735165

>>6735150
>They take money away from the developers doing actual work
not really their fault, and at least they are contributing, there are far less useful programs related to emulation out there
>a lot of people's first experience with emulation is through this confusing, half-assed mess.
again, how is this their fault?
and do you want it harder, to avoid new users, or easier, to suit new users?

>> No.6735170

>>6735165
>contributing
barely. What they do isn't much different to ticket scalping.
>how is it their fault
They programmed retroarch badly

>> No.6735190

>>6735150

False. RA draws more people to the emu scene because it makes emulation more attractive than playing on real hardware.

1. Those people donating to RA probably wouldn't have been drawn to emulation if RA didn't exist.

2. RA doesn't make that much money from donations.

>> No.6735234

>>6735170
Holy fuck, do you honestly think people would use it or if it would be as popular as it is if people didn’t like it?
You know what’s cumbersome and what people don’t want to deal with 20 stand alone emulators to set up, each with their own UI’s and configs you have to setup to use
So suck up your pride for whatever coding you did and just move on

>> No.6735261

>>6735052
But constantly micromanaging 5-6 different emulators in their own separate programs, folders, updates, etc, is more of a pain than a one-stop program

>> No.6735268

>>6734795
>spend hours building retroarch
what in fucks name are you doing just download the fucking installer. dickhead.

>> No.6735269

>>6735170
>barely. What they do isn't much different to ticket scalping.

False. Without RA we wouldn't have shaders and reduced input lag across all platforms. Emulation would be an inconsistent mess of crappy UIs, shitty upscale filters, having to configure your controller on every emulator etc...

You may not like the UI but it's consistent.

The effort required to configure RA is lesser than the sum of the efforts required to configure every emulator we usually use.

All platforms benefit from RA's features. You don't have to go beg every emulator dev to implement them.

>> No.6735273

>IM A RETARD
>FUCK THIS SOFTWARE THAT I FUCKED AROUND WITH IN AN AUTISTIC CONVOLUTED WAY

>> No.6735274

>>6735052
>poorly programmed
Have you looked at the code ?

>> No.6735323

>>6735269
>reduced input lag
>retroarch
You almost had me, anon. Nice effort.

>> No.6735324

>>6734795
Yes, it's shit.

>> No.6735326

>>6735274
Just look at the output.

>> No.6735332

I have no idea how anyone out there actually has a hard time using Retroarch. Shit's the easiest thing imaginable.
It's like people say it's hard to use/shit to use just for the meme of it all.

>> No.6735340

>>6735326
The UI is not the program.

>> No.6735341

>>6734795
In a word. Cope.

>> No.6735342
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>>6735323
RA's input lag can be lesser than on real hardware.

>> No.6735346

>>6735342
It is worse than just using proper emulators.

>> No.6735348

>>6735340
The UI is part of the program

>> No.6735350

>>6735346
no

>> No.6735351

>>6735348
Yes. A bad UI doesn't mean the entire program is 'badly programmed".

>> No.6735354

>>6735351
Yes it does. Good programming doesn't result in such a messy, buggy, unnavigable product.

>> No.6735357

>>6735350
Factually true. Retroarch is worse than all of its cores in standalone when it comes to performance.

>> No.6735358

>>6734795
More like RetroAss

>> No.6735363

>>6734989
Not that I know of.

>> No.6735367

>>6734989
They're holding out for more donations so they can "help secure everything" lmao

>> No.6735371

>>6735354
>Good programming doesn't result in such a messy, buggy, unnavigable product.
False. A useless program can be written with clean code

>> No.6735374

>>6735357
Nope.

>> No.6735376

>>6734795
Glad they got hacked.

>> No.6735382

>>6735357
before or after disabling all the features which makes retroarch better to use?

>> No.6735383

>use retroarch on switch
>N64 runs like shit
>8 months later
>Update cores
>N64 runs WORSE

Bravo

>> No.6735396

>>6735383
you'll probably want to switch back to the old inaccurate plugins on slow machines
accuracy doesnt come free

>> No.6735404

>>6735371
>retroarch utterly fails at what its supposed to do
>"but the code is so clean"
kek. Sure showed me.

>> No.6735405

>>6735382
If you keep the badly-implemented gimmicky features then it runs like trash. If you take the time to go through disabling everything then it runs only slightly worse than the original emulator did anyway.

>> No.6735409

>>6734795
>pokemon red

why the heck don't you just download the visualboy (VBA) emulator?

you could have started asap. besides, retroarch is a multi-emulator. you want GBA emulator.

>> No.6735413

>>6735383
Only RAfags will defend shit like this.
Fans of anything else are still able to see a decline as a bad thing, but with RA it's like a cult. Everyone who defends it is completely deluded about what is acceptable and unacceptable in software.

>> No.6735414

>>6734828
>sudo apt install retroarch *libretro*
>no need to set up anything, controller just werks, just browse to your rom folder and run the games

>> No.6735417

>>6734798
You only compile when you want to (and are able to) manually mess with the code. You never need to do that to run software.

>> No.6735418

>>6735414
>Unable to locate package retroarch
Great job guys

>> No.6735419

>>6735418
#knockout

>> No.6735434

Several GB of what? The archive is only around 200MB, and most cores aren't larger than 20MB. Also, why the hell are you compiling yourself, if you just want to play the games, you can simply use the precompiled binaries.
>>6735016
More than likely he means desktop Linux, which really hasn't taken off, not in the consumer sector anyway.

>> No.6735437

>>6735404
>>retroarch utterly fails at what its supposed to do
Works for me bro. ;)

>> No.6735445

>>6735405
>then it runs like trash
What are you running it on ?

>> No.6735447

>>6735445
probably some 286 or something, this is /vr/ after all

>> No.6735448

>>6735413
if you actually think n64 emulation has gotten worse in the past few months, you clearly are not following n64 emulation at all
bet you think project64 1.6 is still on top, kek

>> No.6735456

>>6735448
N64 emulation has improved. Retroarch, however, has not.

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>>6734795
>being this clueless about emulation
>can't google
>has to look up countless docs before they start to comprehend an application
>having such a bad internet connection it takes hours to download a few gigs
>after TWO days of fuckery, they no longer want to play the game and delete everything they strived for
this has to be bait

>> No.6735583

>>6734795
>why do people praise this bloated waste of time again?
no one. it's just squarepusher pushing his shit again. he does it on every videogame board imaginable.

>> No.6735587

>>6735016
>>The most widespread kernel ever
that's android.

>> No.6735592

>>6735587
and what's Android based on?

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>>6735587
>android
>kernel

>> No.6735596

>>6735580
>VisualBoyAdvance
That's for NON RETRO GBA, though it can play GB and GBC just fine.

BGB is more lofi and runs faster.
http://www.emulator-zone.com/doc.php/gameboy/bgb.html

>> No.6735604

>>6735592
it's called Android by Google overlords so i'm gonna stick to that.

>> No.6735605

>>6735028
>Download BGB
>Download ROM
>Load ROM with BGB and play with keyboard
The correct answer.

>> No.6735609

>>6735040
this. i swear squarepushist blackflagged himself for the drama and beggar money.

>> No.6735610

>>6735596
Eh, gambatte is better anyway
>more lo-fi
Are you cunts trying to run emulation on tamagotchi’s or some shit?

>> No.6735613

>>6735605
I see why people here complain now

>> No.6735614

>>6735610
>Are you cunts trying to run emulation on tamagotchi’s or some shit?
it also doesn't require DirectX libs, so it's the most compatible across different PCs. and yes, /vr/ is old hardware toaster board.

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>> No.6735623

Low IQ people will always be the bane of retroarch. These vermin demand to be catered to their lowest denominator instead of learning new things. Vast majority of complaints on RA can be traced back to them.

>> No.6735626
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>>6735614
Are you running something older than a Core 2? A Core 2 Quad should get you by for something like a GameBoy emulator just fine. Hell, I was able to play The Phantom Pain on one.

>> No.6735627

>>6734795
User error

>> No.6735628

>>6735614
>hardware toaster board
It’s a video game board, use original hardware if you want authenticity
Stop trying to hold back emulation by complaining about having “lofi” hardware

>> No.6735629

>>6735627
This is true for majority of technology to be honest

>> No.6735636

>>6735623
it's the same with anything that gets good, once it's popular enough with those in the know, dumbshits get wind of it, can't or don't want to figure it out like everyone else, then start complaining and making demands about how it should work
this both pissed off people who currently use it and so like the way it works already, and also the devs for open source projects, because nobody has the right to make demands of open source projects, you get what you pay for

if they were truly happy where they were, they would not be complaining and just wouldn't use it

>> No.6735642

>Try RetroArch
>Display says 60 FPS but there's very sluggish audio/video
>Try literally any other emulator
>Game runs smooth as fuck

Big think.

>> No.6735643

>>6735642
works on my machine bro

>> No.6735647

>>6734795
>Buy a clockworkpi
>Retroarch is preinstalled
>Dont deal with nerdy pc shit to set it up
If you are gonna install retroarch install it where its easy, I use it on my ps3 and my gameshell since one is a simple pkg and the other is already there. If you are installing retroarch on a pc, you are a massive faggot OP

>> No.6735648

>>6735647
>If you are installing retroarch on a pc, you are a massive faggot OP
Not OP, but what did he mean by this?

>> No.6735650

>>6735642
What console, core, and game are you using there?

>> No.6735651

>>6734798
most linux distros use pre-compiled binaries installed through a package manager though.

Compiling is often only necessary if packages are out of date. Or if it's the only way - or you need to optimize something for your system.

>> No.6735658

>>6735583
It is weird how there's always one anon eagerly defending this dogshit program.

>> No.6735660

>>6735642
>This experience is universal
>Retroarch still maintain it's the users' fault

>> No.6735661

>>6735610
He means it runs well on a really wide variety of platforms and is really compatible. The GBA emus have dependencies.

>> No.6735670

>>6735648
I meant if youre gonna set up retroarch set it up on an old console or a portable, setting it up on a pc will make you lose your willingness to play. I set up dolphin recently for instance and I cant get around to playing it cause Its annoying to not just turn on my game console and boot into an emulator of my choice

>> No.6735673

>>6735661
I know what he meant dude, but at some point you have to realise you are limited in accuracy with poorer hardware and it holds back progression trying to cater to it

>> No.6735674

>>6735670
>setting it up on a pc will make you lose your willingness to play.
?????????????????

>> No.6735678

>>6735670
That sounds more like a you problem

>> No.6735784

>>6735342
>RA is so inaccurate it can't even emulate the input lag of an emulator correctly
wew lad

>> No.6735792

>>6735784
Did you even think about what you were typing before smacking your head on the keys

>> No.6735831

>>6735323
RA cores in correctly configured RA have the lowest latency of any emulators.
>>6735784
You can tune it to the millisecond. Use a high speed camera to match real hardware.

>> No.6735881

>>6734795
This nigga spent two days trying to figure out retroarch instead of looking at a guide or dow loading VBA.

>> No.6735905

>>6734795
>>6735881
This is why people make fun of emubabbies

>> No.6735908

>>6735831
Are you on the RA dev team or something? I can't understand why anyone who wasn't involved would lie like this.

>> No.6735918

>>6734795
Dude are you a moron? It took me less than 10 min to set it up on my fucking phone including the time searching for the rom.

>> No.6735939

>>6735831
>RA cores in correctly configured RA have the lowest latency of any emulators.
That's tehnically a fallacy. Every RA core is borrowed from an existing third party emulator, striped out of its addons and interface. Most RA cores don't actually preform better than their parent emulator. Though, the reason for that is because of devs poor code implementation and the design philosophy of libreto cores.

>You can tune it to the millisecond. Use a high speed camera to match real hardware.
While you can tune any emulators and RA by that principle, you can actually tune a stand alone emulator better because its more specific and more optimized to use your computer's resources. For that reason all the, for an example, desmume emulator forks preform great, yet the RA libreto core for that emulator preforms horribly. Retroarch just has too much active background processes to use certain cores effectively.

Retroarch is still a decent choice for multiplatform game collection and archival purposes.

>> No.6735992

Obviously bait. I used Retroarch recently to set up PS1 and play SaGa Frontier and it took me less than 10 minutes. The only "confusing" thing is the core business if you're used to emulators that are usually just install and play, but if you've ever used anything like PS1 or PS2 you'd have to deal with BIOS anyways.

>> No.6736049

>>6735908
>lie
>>6735939
>That's tehnically a fallacy
it's fine that you guys can't use it but stop talking about things you don't understand, especially if you can't work a basic UI

>> No.6736215

>>6735792
>Did you think I would seethe this much
Yes. Hes I did.
>>6735831
>cope
kek

>> No.6736354

>>6734795
No idea what you were doing, it took me like ten minutes to get games running and a few days to understand the program. It’s quite over embellished how complicated retroarch really is, we’re millennials/gen z/underage ffs if we can’t operate a simple program like this it’s embarrassing

>> No.6736635

Are you retarded? They literally have red and blue on both app stores.

>> No.6736636

someone really ought to make OpenEmu but for PC desu.
i can't think of a single feature it lacks that I can't live without (other than Windows compatibility)

>> No.6736640

>>6736636
does it support state of the art CRT shaders and run-ahead?

>> No.6737081

>>6735992
Do you have some ps1 cores to share?
i reinstalled RA recently not knowing the database was hacked or whatever, i want to replay brave fencer musashi i just went as far as the ice castle last time i played it .

>> No.6737089
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6737089

>>6735190
>RA doesn't make that much money from donations
https://www.patreon.com/libretro

>> No.6737090

>>6737081
Just use epsxe it's way better than RA

>> No.6737092

>>6737089
>Piggybacks on other devs work
>"$1k a month please"

>> No.6737095

>>6734795
>wants to play a 20+ year old game for nostalgia
>doesn't know the first thing about emulation despite it being around for just as long
Yeah, this isn't bait at all.

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>>6734795
>download retroarch
>boot up retroarch
>click download whatever core from whatever system you want
>use a meme shader
done

>> No.6737102

>>6737090
I tried but i cant fix some stuttering issue and the audio messing up, besides i really like the CTR shaders of RA.

>> No.6737112

>>6737089
They deserve way more. For example CEmu makes 10 times that.

>> No.6737113

>>6737081
Use Duckstation when the core updater is available again. Now you're out of luck, they just got hacked.

>> No.6737115

>>6737113
cuckstation has nothing on beetle psx

>> No.6737116

>>6737081
retroarch uses mednafen for ps1 just download that

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6737123

>>6735642
i had this issue on an older PC
i solved it by fucking with the video drivers under drivers > video until i found one that worked (i want to say it was either gl or sdl2)
>>6737112
Cemu does not make "10 times that" if you're going by their patreon funds; they make roughly 2.2x.
retroarch is also just a front end; why should that get more donations than the actual emulators?
i know cemu is closed-source though which is lame as fuck, so i'd be less keen on giving them money

>> No.6737159

>>6734795

>RA for Game Boy

Could have gotten VBA and be done with it, time to play.

>> No.6737171

Retroarch just feels slower for me. I dont know why. Even NES games on Retroarch seem to lag

>> No.6737173

>>6735414
>obsolete isometric bullshit
>port from arcades where nobody cared in the first place
HAHAHAHAHA
real competitor for Amiga CD32

>> No.6737195

>>6735040
So the hacking was a fake?

>> No.6737208

>>6735678
Riddle me this then, anon. Why dont more people go out and buy shitty dells, load them full of roms and play them in their room? Its cause when people play games they want to simply turn on their controller, turn on their console and browse to their game. Perhaps you could install a distro of linux set up to be for emulation but you have to admit taking a console you have lying around and modding it seems to be many peoples go to option

>> No.6737212

>>6737112
in what universe do they 'deserve' more
honestly bizhawk works way better than this bloated piece of shit, its just a shame that bizhawk is windows only

>> No.6737215

>>6737212
fuck off bizhawk loser

>> No.6737217

>>6737215
awesome argument

>> No.6737229

>>6737195

There is no definite proof but people assume it because of the whole holding-the-cores-hostage thing unless you think that someone really has nothing better to do than use a cluster of CPUs/GPUs and money for electricity to break the SHA1 for the git repository for a stupid little emulator.

>> No.6737234

>>6735418
>>Unable to locate package retroarch
>Great job guys

Enable all the repos and try again. It's in Devuan and therefore also in Ubuntu.

>> No.6737239

>>6737217
splendid retort, loser

>> No.6737241

>>6737239
anon's razor: any argument without substance can be dismissed without substance

>> No.6737250

>>6734795
The only reason I like retroarch is because of the CRT filters included. But I mainly play on flashcarts so its not a huge deal overall.

>> No.6737251

>>6737208
>Why dont more people go out and buy shitty dells, load them full of roms and play them in their room?
They do, have you heard of a little thing called raspberry pi

>> No.6737286

>>6737251
Which has a linux distribution literally built to be an emulation console.

>> No.6737292

>>6734795
If you only feel like playing one game (especially one as shitty and zoomy as Pokemon) then Retroarch isn't for you, mental midget. You wouldn't get what it offers over standalones anyway. Just get VBA or MGBA. Have fun.

>> No.6737298

>>6735383
All N64 emulation is shit but Parallel RDP/RSP which requires a great rig by 2013 standards or better. Your goal was honked from the start on Switch. I doubt that shit's even good enough for GlideN64.

>> No.6737305

>>6737286
Your point?

>> No.6737312

>>6737305
Its the same thing as a console

>> No.6737314

>playing long RPG
>Saving state
>Retroarch crashes
>Save corrupted
>Crashes RA if you try to load that save
>Progress lost

>> No.6737323

>>6737312
Lol

>> No.6737325

>>6737314
This is why I'll never play emulators, I can't stand the thought of having my accomplishments wiped out like that

>> No.6737329

>>6734795
When will people learn linux isn't for gaming? Maybe one day, but not as of now. Could have had it up and running in minutes with all the bells and whistles on windows. Would you use a steak knife to screw a philipshead screw if you had the option of using a philipshead screwdriver right in your toolbox?

>> No.6737358

>>6737325
not retro, but I had a madcatz PS2 memory card die, with a 50 hour P3 save on it.
Never again.
With an emulator you have the save, the savestate, and potential backups which is nice.
Carts you are praying it doesn't fail and memory cards youd have to save twice everytime.

>> No.6737364

>>6737314
>Not savestating after saving in-game.

Who's fault is that?

>> No.6737371
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>>6737358
i got metal gear solid as a gift before i had a memory card and played all day until the final fight and the power went out because of a storm

>> No.6737407

>>6735620
what's the point of posting the end result of hours of setup and trial and error to try to claim RA is easy?
Go make a webm of you setting up the whole thing from the beginning, no speed up, probably won't even fit on the size limit, lol. Then again, even that won't be accurate because this is not your first time and you already know your way around.

>> No.6737416

>>6735642
>try RetroArch
>there's a fucking frame counter going super fast at the top right corner of the screen before I even load any game, I can turn it off but it comes back every time I restart it and not even uninstalling gets rid of it.
What the fuck?

>> No.6737423

>>6737416
You can turn that off. And it definitely should stay off even after a reset. Maybe manuly save your config?

Retroarch is really a fucking pain. Theres like a million options for everything. I just played around with N64 game options and the controller inputs stopped working for that game for some unknown reason.

Now I have to figure out how to reset the options settings for just one game without wiping my entire retroarch configuration

>> No.6737439

>>6734795
Wow you mean I have to spend hours learning how to build a computer and install an operating system every time I feel like playing age of empires?

>> No.6737576

>>6737329
who said anything about linux?

>> No.6737582

>>6737439
is there a console AOE? i don't think so.
and i think there's fanpatches for older versions of AOE anyway.

>> No.6737587

>>6735628
>“lofi” hardware
this board literally has thread for old PC hardware, so why not? you can still buy "modern" shit tier duo cores and celerons on the market right now.

>> No.6737595

>>6737102
>stuttering issue and the audio messing up
use software mode. otherwise you would have to tinker with plugins. most likely a problem with the game running too fast. try fixed framerates of 60.

>> No.6737703

>>6734795
I bet you think name is complicated too

>> No.6737724

>>6737423
I have no idea how the fuck I turned it on in the first place.
Furthermore, considering RA has some fucking odd rules for saving configs maybe I'm not doing the right one.

>> No.6737772

>>6737407
>hours
jesus

>> No.6737926

>>6737576
look
>>6734795
>>spend hours building retroarch

you don't "build" windows retroarch.

Retroarch is a godsend to windows emulation. If you have a pc from the last decade, ZERO issues.

>> No.6737961

>>6737926
>you don't "build" windows retroarch.
so it was written in straight machine code?

>> No.6737962

>>6737587
Do you see the word authenticity?
You can have emulation just don’t expect it to be as accurate

>> No.6737997

>>6737724
not really, look at hotkeys
you probably used save states because F3 is the default FPS counter hotkey

>> No.6738038
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6738038

>>6737926
"you didn't build that"

>> No.6738040

Retroarch is super convenient, though I did spend a long time getting used to its quirks and figuring out exactly which option saves what and in which context and setting up everything in a way so that I didn't have to configure everything each time a new version was out.
Not a problem now though, now I just plug a controller and a tv into my laptop, lay in bed and it's videogames all afternoon.

The important thing is, if you want to make changes to settings and you want them to stick, you have to configure things while there isn't any core running. Then each time you make changes, you go into configuration files > save current config
If you mess with settings while a core is running, your changes will only apply to that core. If you want to save settings only for that core or only for that game, you go into "overrides" in the quick menu.
It's a mess, but I think it's worth it. Just don't go unga bunga then wonder why you broke everything.

>> No.6738269

>>6738040
>here's a workaround for one of the many implementation issues
Or just use well designed emulators...

>> No.6738284

>>6738269
>a workaround
theres a config for the application which is default for all core and then core overides for any differences you want for specific cores, it;s extremely basic

>> No.6738295

>>6734795
I gotta assume they're Zoomers who don't know any better.
Just use Gambatte.

>> No.6738301

>>6738269
It's not a workaround, it's the intended usage... I think.
But there's just nothing else like retroarch. Nothing beats having all your configs and saves and screenshots and everything neatly organized in the same place, easily portable between devices even, an interface that's entirely operated with a controller, plus all the other niceties that have been listed a million times.

>> No.6738307

>>6734795
>>>/vp/ pokeweeb

>> No.6738309

>>6738284
No basic features should require 3 paragraphs to explain. With retroarch, every feature requires this. And even if you follow the steps, it's 50/50 whether it will slow your game down, and 50/50 whether it will work at all.
Awful.

>> No.6738313

>>6738301
>There's nothing else like retroarch
Windows Vista

>> No.6738316

>>6734795
Took me like 5 mins to put pokemon yellow on my samsung phone..

>> No.6738336

>>6738309
I explained it in one line, you have an issue with it, it's because you lack basic thought process past putting a square block in a square hole

>> No.6738341

>>6738336
Explain how to change a setting in retroarch in one line, without missing out any of the caveats or special cases.

>> No.6738356

>>6738309
Man, it's because of people like you that software these days comes with no options at all.
The more options retroarch has the better. I've been using emulators since the time of the original VBA and the whole thing has never been as convenient and flexible as right now.

>> No.6738370

>>6738313
kek

>> No.6738371
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6738371

>>6738309
>No basic features should require 3 paragraphs to explain.
What kind of goalpost moving is that, even something as basic as quoting your low IQ ass requires multiple paragraphs to explain
This is all pure desperation because you want to feel better about the fact that you can't operate an interface that's specifically made to be easy to operate like a console. It ain't fucking linux.

>> No.6738372

>>6738356
Nobody said options are bad. Bad programming of options is bad.

>> No.6738380

>>6738309
you are either a child or actually retarded

>> No.6738382

>>6738341
>>6738284

>> No.6738401

>>6734795
>Download BGB
>Download Red rom
>??????????
>profit
Here's another (you)

>> No.6738417

>>6738382
>Doesn't even begin to explain how to change a setting
Not even a good attempt anon

>> No.6738423

>>6738417
you need to be told to press settings?

>> No.6738560

>>6737123
>cemu is closed-source though which is lame as fuck, so i'd be less keen on giving them money
That's why RA deserves more.
Core devs should get some money, but RA making money is not a problem. A frontend requires effort too.

>> No.6738575

>>6737926
>Retroarch is a godsend to windows emulation.
MAME/MESS did it first, squarepusher. i'm not saying their UI is better than your shit, but still...

>> No.6738578

>>6738401
thanks, anon. BGB, it just werkz! and no, i'm not stopping you from using VBA.

>> No.6738579

>>6738575
MAME is just several emulators together. It doesn't provide the extra features that RA does.

>> No.6738582

>>6736635
>They literally have red and blue on both app stores.
i think you can also buy it from Switch store? i dunno. we love to be freedom loving maverick buccaneers, man!

>> No.6738585

>>6738579
>It doesn't provide the extra features that RA does.
most people never wanted them bloat.

>> No.6738587

>>6738585
Don't use a frontend then. MAME is not a frontend though, it's not comparable to RA.

>> No.6738591

As shit as the hardware has gotten, openemu on Mac is unironically the best multi system emu
>intuitive noob friendly gui
>still offers customization options
>organizes games neater than even the best ofvideo or music players
>best cores for each system already loaded
>just install 1 file
>menus aren't retardedly organized with basic features buried

>> No.6738614

>>6738591 >>6736640

>> No.6738621

>>6738591
>Mac users
figures

>> No.6738624

>>6738621
I have a MacBook and a gaming pc desktop. Best of both worlds.

>> No.6738626

>>6738614
I've honestly never checked, I'm not that autistic about emulation

>> No.6738645

>>6738626
there's nothing autistic about playing with a nice CRT shader

>> No.6738653

>>6738645
>nice CRT shader
>retroarch
pick one

>> No.6738958

>>6734795
> blaming some one else for you being retarded
Retroarch is fine. Its a good suite of emulators with some nice features. I have had 0 problems.

>> No.6738980

>>6738653
Why would I pick one if these two are a perfect match?

>> No.6739010

Building it yourself? Instead of just getting a Windows binary? Then getting mad about it?
Are you taking the piss? You have to be.

>> No.6739139

>>6734795
People like it because it removes the hassle or having to track down a dozen emulators and set ups.
It literally took me 10 minutes to set up RA and I never had to download anything else beforehand so you might be retarded anon.

>> No.6739224

>>6735273
>IN AN AUTISTIC CONVOLUTED WAY
You pretty much described RA's design

>> No.6739241

>>6734989
As far as I know, you can still download them in the program via the "Online Updater" function

>> No.6739272

>>6734795
>let me make up a completely bullshit story while i larp about being old enough to remember pokemon red just because le board meemays
Why?

>> No.6739302

>>6739224
Add thoroughly unhelpful and rude retorts when you're trying to learn and ask for advice, and you've successfully also described the Linux community.

Why doesn't aspies understand UI, flow, efficiency and accessibility?

>> No.6739308

Is Retroarch kill?

>> No.6739310

>>6739308
yes, unless you gibe squarepusher moar money because the hackerman made him cry.

>> No.6739312

>>6739139
>People like it because it removes the hassle or having to track down a dozen emulators and set ups.
MAME/MESS

>> No.6739315

>>6739308
no theyre just milking donations while they can

>> No.6739319

>>6738587
i don't. i use real emulators instead of an autist UI with stolen emu code.
sorry, i meant OPEN SOURCE CORES WHICH SQUAREPUSHER REFUSES TO LET YOU DOWNLOAD NOW UNTIL YOU GIBE MONEY.

>> No.6739323

>>6739308
According to their Twitter they're rebuilding everything manually which'll take a while. They're bringing the buildbot back up temporarily as well at some point while looking for a new server to upload everything to instead.

>> No.6739326

>>6739323
so if this wasn't a blackflag attack, squarepusher was actually dumb enough to never backup his files? kek.

>> No.6739439

>>6739319
>caring about drama
Jog on, go use something else

>> No.6739509

>>6739439
>>caring about drama
i don't use RA. i play whatever i like. how is that dramatic?

>> No.6739535

>>6738578
bgb is one of the most accurate gb/c emulators.

>> No.6739568

>>6739326
Spend any time with squarepusher and it becomes quickly clear that he is not the smartest guy on the planet.

>> No.6739605

>>6739568
His front-end is the go to when retro emulation is concerned, so he's gotta be pretty smart judging from his achievements.

>> No.6739683

>>6735383
why would anyone even wanna play N64? youre an idiot wanting to play a shark-jumping console on a handheld

>> No.6739727

>>6737115
its better on low end computers

>> No.6740312

>>6735268
can't optimize it for your cpu architecture then

>> No.6740393

>>6734795
Same, what a bitch, i installed the vita one and turned out to be a disappointment with crashes if i ff, i went back to the gbc/gg emulator for psp where you can ff without crashes

>> No.6740474

>>6740312
And no profile guided optimization either. Every CPU cycle matters when you're minimizing latency.

>> No.6740485

>>6738371
that screencap explains four features: quoting, post quoting, cross-board post quoting, and automatic quoting. the first three get one sentence each. the second one one is explained in two sentences.
youre a retard, mate

>> No.6740648

>>6735623
as a phd in chemical engineering who compiled retroarch to get KMS mode, retroarch really is not that useful and only an autist would benefit from using that over standalone emulators. You're not exceptional, you're just on the spectrum (and probably a Jew, according to your IQ fetish).

>> No.6740651

For some reason the core online downloader isn't working for me...
What can it be?

>> No.6740669

>>6740651
You know they got hacked and had everything wiped right? It's probably not backed up yet.

>> No.6740674

When I scan a playlist for Dreamcast it only detects my CDI/GDI games not my CHD. WHAT DO? #TechSupport

>> No.6740679

>>6740669
It's been like 3 days. How fucking long does it take to re-upload some emus? They could at least put up the basic ones and take their time with lesser demanded ones later.

>> No.6740682

>>6740669
Make sense

>> No.6740684

>>6739683
Cus Wave Race fucking rules that's why

>> No.6740686

>>6740679
They never made backups apparently

>> No.6740753

>>6739312
Yeah thats why people like that one too.

>> No.6740764

So might this mess result in more stand alone emulators for consoles at least? Retroarch is such trash on wii u that I rather boot into vwii for emulation despite the 480p

>> No.6740821

>>6740764

you are a retard. retroarch is one of the best things ever on wiiu.


crapalone is garbage

>> No.6740939

>>6737329
>>6737926
>>>sudo snap install retroarch
MAN that was hard

>> No.6740980

>>6737173
What the fuck is this person talking about

>> No.6741135

>>6737961
>>6738038
dead

>> No.6741227

>>6740939
>snap
i dont like this last time i used a snap version of a program it took a lot longer to load than the normal version

>> No.6741620

>>6739605
>His front-end is the go to when retro emulation is concerne
lol.nope. iMAME and suck byuu's furry dick.

>> No.6741627

>>6740674
>WHAT DO? #TechSupport
pay more money to squarepusher or he will cry on 4chan and leddit.

>> No.6741631

>>6740980
He responded in the wrong thread. He was shitposting about the neo Geo not having any racing games other than isometric sprite games like Neo Drift Racing.

And he thinks the the neo Geo console is "ports" even though you literally plug in the arcade cartridge directly.

>> No.6741638
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6741638

Does Mednafen output real 240p?

>> No.6741659

>>6740674
>#TechSupport
Go ask on twitter where you belong faggot.

>> No.6741663

>>6741620
what?

>> No.6741689

>>6741663
if you haven't got it by now in this thread, there are people that have a personal beef with the developers

>> No.6741791

>>6741689
>developers
nah, it's just squarepusher being a moron, not backing up his files, and refusing to let people download cores.

>> No.6741807

>>6741791
thanks for proving my point

>> No.6741814

>>6737407
Retard

>> No.6741830

>>6741689
I think it's just one very angry person.

>> No.6741837

Does anyone know why Retroarch is lagging?
I tried playing Wario Land but when I press a button on my controller there's a split second before the action comes through.

>> No.6741840

>>6741837
gonna need more info than that, do you have vsync on?

>> No.6741842

>>6741840
Tried it on and off. This is on a shield TV by the way.

>> No.6741853

>>6741842
ah, game mode on your screen?
or is there a way to connect your controller through a corded connection instead of bluetooth?

>> No.6741860

>>6741842
I recommend a modern PC and a 144hz+ monitor to alleviate your grievances.

>> No.6741865

>>6741860
>144hz+ monitor
anything above 60hz is fine

>> No.6741873

>>6741865
fine for you, may not be fine for others
vrr is also a must, which I don't think is ever present in 60hz monitors

>> No.6741879

>>6734795
haha look guys, this is another topic about retroarch being complicated to set up lol so funny huh

>> No.6741882

>>6741873
I literally said anything above 60hz

>> No.6741887

>>6737123
are you implying it's a lot of money? holy shit it can't even pay one guy kek

>> No.6741890

>>6741882
not every display above 60 has vrr, but every 144+ does
so yeah

>> No.6741963

>>6734795
>download rom
>download retroarch
>get the mgba core from online updater
>locate the rom
>hit play
wow what a waste of 2 minutes

>> No.6741970
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>>6741963
you're a waste of oxygen if you're seriously suggesting using software made by freaks of nature

>> No.6741986

>>6741970
who gives a shit if it works well

>> No.6741990

>>6741986
I do. VBA-M works well as well.

>> No.6742002

>>6741990
it works OK, not well like mGBA
but just like Retroarch, people seem to care about personal shit rather than the product

>> No.6742003

>>6741970
your fault for going on twitter

>> No.6742007

>>6742002
Can you specify instanced in which VBA-M doesn't work as well as mGBA in a bit more detail?

>> No.6742016

>>6742007
in its accuracy, it doesn't need to rely on patches to bypass the antipiracy shit on the NES roms for GBA
VBA-M is like ZSNES now, it was great for being the first but now there's a better option

>> No.6742019

>>6742016
What is exactly inaccurate in VBA-M that is accurate in mGBA?

>> No.6742021

>>6742019
it's not /vr/ so it doesn't matter

>> No.6742025

>>6742021
That's strange. You attested to mgba being more accurate than vba-m and then provided no evidence for that whatsoever, why would you do that?

>> No.6742028

>>6742025
go and try them for yourself, you will see the difference in timing and frame pacing, try fire red

>> No.6742034

>>6742028
I tried them both and saw no difference in frame pacing and timing whatsoever, both run at about 59.7hz irrc? VBA-M has a much nicer sound, however.

>> No.6742238

>>6737926
the interface is unintuitive and controller settings always give me problems. Other than that it's pretty nice

>> No.6742264

>>6742238
I dunno, being able to tweak settings on the fly is nice, A lot of stand-alones require restarts every time you tweak something, and you don’t have to navigate to the same menu over and over every time you accept a change

>> No.6742295

>try retroarch for saturn emulation
>only 1 of the cores can play the game without audio stuttering
>try standalone mednafen, there it works with much less cpu usage
>every time retroarch crashes it randomly corrupts the config files
>have to reconfigure my original ps3 controller every time
>default configs arent applied to my controller even though it should be natively supported
>have to also configure the buttons for each and every emulator as well
>the whole GUI is unusable and overloaded with nonsense that only autists would ever care about
>have to mess with various configs to get each emulator to work
>doesn't indicate in the GUI at all whether it needs bios files or where I have to put them for most of them emulators to work
>always wants to load games from
its stupid default directory, always have to navigate to the game folder
>then loses all the fucking configuration randomly again

>> No.6742302

>>6742295
woes of a brainlet

>> No.6742303

>>6742302
Yeah, how stupid of me to expect something usable and not a retarded mess

>> No.6742307

>>6742303
fascinating coping mechanism

>> No.6742310

>>6742295
>"i don't get it, so it's bad" post #5948

>> No.6742315

>>6742310
>>6742307
>make garbage UI
>call people who complain about it retarded

>> No.6742318

>>6742315
In what way is the UI bad?

>> No.6742320

>>6742315
>be a retard
>being unable to assess your own shortcomings, you project them onto things you couldn't grasp

>> No.6742328

>>6742318
>doesn't save last opened directory
>doesn't show actual error messages besides "there was an error staring the core"
>doesn't tell where in the filesystem the BIOS files go (and neither does the retroarch wiki really)
>can lock up if you select certain options
>annoying to navigate if you have a mouse and keyboard
>doesn't automatically configure all controllers it claims to support
>many configuration options for the emulators are missing
>too many unnecessary options that no one except some developers would ever use, no simple mode to hide the bullshit

>> No.6742330

>>6742303
Funny, it doesn't seem to do this shit on anyone else's machine. But I get it's totally not your fault. There's really no way all these utter plebians could be doing something without issues while a galaxy brain such as yourself cannot. Inconceivable.

>> No.6742331

>>6742330
Almost all of those points exist on any machine
I guess you're just used to shit

>> No.6742336

>>6742315
personally, whenever i'm struggling with something i know others aren't struggling with, i don't immediately blame the thing, but rather try to figure out why /i'm/ having trouble with it, and perhaps learn something

>> No.6742356

>>6742336
Just because some people have learned how to avoid its issues doesn't mean that it's well designed. Especially for relatively obscure projects like retroarch which are mostly made and used by autists.
Yes, I could configure retroarch. But it would take hours of bullshit trial and error simply because the documentation and the GUI suck.

>> No.6742360

>>6742356
So why are you complaining? Dogs eat dog food, so apply yourself.

>> No.6742450

>>6742328
>doesn't save last opened directory
yeah that's a pain in the ass, but you can change the start directory
>doesn't show actual error messages besides "there was an error staring the core"
true for the most part but some cores tell you what went wrong if you press f5
>doesn't tell where in the filesystem the BIOS files go (and neither does the retroarch wiki really)
its on the gametech wiki, either way takes 5 seconds to google it
>can lock up if you select certain options
true
>annoying to navigate if you have a mouse and keyboard
thats subjective, I use it with a keyboard just fine, even the xmb shit
>doesn't automatically configure all controllers it claims to support
for me it worked with both official and literally who bootleg gamepads
>many configuration options for the emulators are missing
I agree, this one really grinds my gears
>too many unnecessary options that no one except some developers would ever use, no simple mode to hide the bullshit
like what?

>> No.6742493

>>6737229
is there another thread discussing this hacking indecent? only thing I could find was on plebbit where someone was complaining that the lead guy at retroarch is "racist" and "homophobic"

>> No.6742496

>>6742328
Literally every complaint is just "read the docs". Split dick mamespergs really aren't sending their best.

>> No.6742691

>>6734798
Holy shit you're dumb.

>> No.6742693

>>6734828
>sudo apt install retroarch
>scroll down to gameboy core
Done.

>> No.6742747

Have they figured out how to restore a few commits already ?
It's been like a week.

>> No.6742758
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6742758

Don't worry, Sherlock Holmes is on the case

>> No.6742776

>>6742758
Sherrock a Hormes*

>> No.6742830

>>6741887
nigger thats $51,132 a year, that's over twice what you'd get making mctendies, which is a lot more work than d*niel does knowing how often he fucking stalks this fucking board

>> No.6742831

>>6742331
They don't, though. I guess you're just retarded.

>> No.6742905

>>6737123
>i know cemu is closed-source though which is lame as fuck, so i'd be less keen on giving them money
*donating* to closed source doesn't make sense. if your product is closed source, then just sell it and stop asking for donations. aside from that, closed source projects are not compatible longterm with the emu community.

the only way I would donate to a closed source project is if the developers promise to go open source once hitting a certain revenue goal.

>> No.6742926

God you people are so fucking stupid. Don't you see there's never going to be an agreement on this topic that can be reached? Why do you even care in the first place what emulator others use? Is there even any satisfaction to be gained from changing someone's mind about a certain software? It's not like you're going to get notified about it either. You repeat this inane insanity of a thread every other day. It's an endless cicle of screeching at each other and completely useless. I really wonder how many times some of you have participated in this nonsense thus far, typing out the same sentences over and over and over. Completely fucking braindead.

>> No.6743079

>>6742830
Is Daniel alone in this ? Is he keeping the money for himself ?

>> No.6744056

>>6742905
How is cemu not illegal btw? Since they're actually making money off it

>> No.6744065
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6744065

>>6734795
>he didn't just get prepackaged retroarch+roms from one of the generals

>> No.6744103

>>6742758
he takes jumping to conclusions to olympic levels (like, level 10, bro)

>> No.6744248

>>6744065
Not that guy, but got any links? I just set up a retropie, and I'd love to be able to just download a couple of ROM-packs

>> No.6744318

>>6742830

confirmed for not knowing basic elementary grade math too.

what is it about the antiRA/anti-daniel shitposter that makes them so low iq?

>> No.6744338

>>6744318
damn i thought censoring your name would throw you off a bit, bud; guess i was wrong

>> No.6744351

>>6744338

explain again how you arrive at $51K per year that libretro is making.

Please indulge me on how bad your basic arithmetic skills are. We will need it for education reform.

>> No.6744361

>>6744351
> Durr I've never written a line of code in my life but for sure someone doesn't deserve $51K/yr writing software that millions of people find useful when they could be working a regular dev job for literally 4X the $$$

>> No.6744369

>>6744361

that too but this retard literally fails at basic third grade arithmetic if he thinks that team libretro is pulling in anywhere near that amount.

>> No.6744432

>>6744351
>>6744369
Pretty sure he just fucked up and looked at the Cemu Patreon numbers accidentally.
>>6744361
That's implying they don't have dayjobs. If they don't... that's pretty fucking sad lol. If they do, well then it's some nice extra income, but I wouldn't say Retroarch itself is that deserving of money. It's feature complete for the majority of platforms its at this point. The Wii and 3DS versions suck cock, but everything else I've tried has been fine. Improving emulation itself is much more important. I'm aware libretro maintains forks of some other emulators, but (and I haven't looked myself) I'm going to bet they're just pulling updates from the main projects and making minor optimizations here and there.

>> No.6744437

>>6741659
because hashtags originated with twitter, right, zoomie?

>> No.6744458

>>6734795
is there seriously any point to using retroarch other than a raspberry pi or console

>> No.6744483

>>6744458
Yeah I really dont get it why would I download a ton of emulators I will never use and horribly obfuscate the settings for the few I do use

>> No.6744609

>>6744458
No & even then if the console has good standalone emus you're better off just getting the few you care about.

>> No.6744849

>>6744458
No.

To elab even further there's no point to rapeberry pie either, when you can get a 2nd hand laptop for free/almost free and mod it into an emu device with any emulator/OS you want. Unless you really really want to make a very very tiny emu device with RBP.

>> No.6744859

>>6742496
>"read the docs".
2 years ago i downloaded and played with BGB with literally no need to read any docs or even readme.txt. cope and seeth, sqpushite.

>> No.6744949

>>6744458
>>6744483
>>6744609
>>6744849
>>6744859
Mentally ill

>> No.6745097

>>6744859
i haven't read any retroarch docs, either
i know how to use an emulator already, so no need to

>> No.6745125

>>6735261
maybe if you're literally retarded

>> No.6745164

>>6744458
parity
frontends

>> No.6745178

>>6742926
>t. skub centrist

>> No.6745179

>>6742758
I love ESL retardation. Genuinely one of the only good old internet things still about

>> No.6745484

>>6744437
Not him, but yeah they in fact did. Head on back there and stay.

>> No.6745919

download mgba 0.7.3 (newer one has a flicker bug in some games and will be fixed in next release).

Requires no roms or anything, just extract, run and load your rom.

>> No.6746028

>>6745097
yes, me too. i use higan.

>> No.6746032

>>6745919
>Requires no roms or anything, just extract, run and load your rom.
oxymoron. it doesn't cum with the pokermans roms.

>> No.6746542

When I play game that are 30fps the little FPS counter will still display 60fps.

How can I get the counter to display the actual accurate in game FPS?

>> No.6746550

>>6746542
Maybe the game is running at 60fps but is only drawing 30fps on screen

>> No.6746669

>>6746542
Retroarch actively lies to users so they think it's better than it is. They've been called out for this before.

>> No.6746702

>>6746550
>>6746542
You can only monitor frames in the GPU buffer, so unless a game uses hardware rendering, which is uncommon for retro emulation, then it will always display 50 or 60 because the rendering is done on the CPU.

>> No.6747906

>>6746702
No, it’s a frame counter in program
>>6746542
It might just be the core you’re using, play another game on a different core that has 30fps

>> No.6748328

>>6746669
Every fucking emulator defaults to a 60hz output you sperg.

>> No.6748463

Has anyone recently downloaded 1.9 and can't get many cores to show up? I only have a handful of cores show up in the updater but none of the ones I want to use. Fresh install.

>> No.6748521

>>6748463
probably something to do with the recent attack on them

>> No.6748554

>>6745484
ok zoom zoom zoomie!
i'll just head back over to ##goodolddays, my favorite place for retro gaming discussion, on freeno- i mean, uh, twitter

>> No.6748559

>>6748521
“””””attack”””””

>> No.6749052

why don't people just use mamedev, it has everything you need.

>>gamecube emulation

>>wii

>>n64

>>nintendo switch

>> No.6749064

>>6734795
Welcome to my world, OP.
>B-but muh shaders! How could you play without muh shaders!
Fuck the RetroArch cult and their incessant need to rub it in our faces that they have no lives and are able to spend countless hours optimizing RA for EVERY game and EVERY console as if it was no small feat.

>> No.6749068

>>6749064
actually i really like run ahead that tech is frecking magic and i cant even play on real hardware anymore with out seeing the input lag that are in these games

>> No.6749074

>>6749068
Run ahead can be implemented in any standalone emulator with a sane UI.

>> No.6749236

>>6749052
then use it?
what's stopping you?
the amount of people that want others not to use retroarch is absolutely the strangest shit I've seen on this board

>> No.6749243

>>6749236
mental illness coupled with envy

>> No.6749254

>>6749236
I don't care if people use retroarch, but I care about the truth, and I care about newcomers to the hobby.
If we're going to lie and say retroarch is a good option then stories like OP do happen. Some newbies really do think that retroarch is a good choice for them when in reality it's a confusing, buggy, computationally expensive mess.

>> No.6749260

>>6749254
>truth
>followed by all that nonsense
don't you get tired of talking bullshit anon

>> No.6749287

>>6734795
>i dont know how to use an emulator
When you get older, don't ever get a job using computers mate. LMAO. Stick to laboring or some shit.

>> No.6749289

>>6749243
>envy
Oh, I have no problem admitting that I am envious. You RA users troll us normal people all the time with your shader threads. You’re a plague upon this board and no matter how many people tell you the UI is an obtuse message you’ll find some way of blaming it on them and not the program you worship. We hate RA because it created a dichotomy of people who are able to enjoy the ultimate emulation experience and who will not shut up about how great it is... and everyone else.

>> No.6749293

>>6749289
>UI is an obtuse message
*obtuse mess

>> No.6749298

How can you tell if someone uses retroarch?

Don't worry, they'll tell you.

>> No.6749308

>>6749298
>How can you tell if someone dislikes retroarch?

>Don't worry, they'll call you daniel

>> No.6749318

>>6749298
lmfao

>> No.6749349

>>6747906
It is N64 mupen-next. Only displays at 60. But others like flycast will display 30 correctly

>> No.6749358

>>6749349
Oh OK, there's a setting in the core options that you choose original or full speed which will force the emulation to not have slowdown, that's probably the reason

>> No.6749404

>>6749074
but its not and thats the problem

>> No.6749545
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>>6749289
It requires <20 minutes to setup the entirety of gen 3, 4, and 5 with per-system resolution and shaders, and then you're done, you'll never have to do it again. Alternatively, scan your roms, plug in a controller, and just play if you want the base emulator experience with zero setup outside of running the core downloader a single time. It couldn't be easier, and the docs are extremely robust and easily searchable to cover any and every personalized tweak you'd want to do.

What seems to happen to a lot of users like you is that you start it up, dive right into the settings, are completely overwhelmed with the sheer amount of options presented, so you get frustrated and turn it off. It doesn't have to be that way, unlike a lot of us longtime users who had to slowly learn it over time, you have the benefit of the docs that will walk you through everything.

If you can spend 12 hours modding some bethesda game, surely you can spend 20 minutes following a guide to get all of your res and shader settings locked in across three entire generations of vidya.

>> No.6749554

>>6749545
>gen 3, 4, and 5
OP just wanted to play some pokeymans. WTF. Fuck off!

>> No.6749556

>>6749404
Higan

>> No.6749559

>>6749554
Do you have brain problems?

>> No.6749579

>>6734795
>consensus seems to be retroarch
if you emulate a lot of systems frequently, maybe - all tinkering (which there's not a terible lot of usually) pays off. If you just want to play for a hour or two for nostalgia sake, you are better off with standalone.

>> No.6749584

>>6749287
I'm unironically jealous of the groundskeepers and custodians where i work.
T. IT fag

>> No.6749646

>>6749556
.-. REALLY your solution to a standalone emulator is another front-end like retroarch thats not a standalone emulator at all

>> No.6749995

>>6734989
A few are back but it's still missing the majority.

>> No.6750220

What are the best shaders per system?

>> No.6750321

>>6737090
Not >>6737102
Epsxe used to be my go to ps1 emulator, but after one of the builds, it completely borked on my pc and laptop. It just auto crashes regardless of settings. Got sick of it and uninstalled it.
Switched to Launchbox, but it wouldn't run some of my shit consistently (soul blade crashed on menus), so I tried RA. So far I've had zero issues with it. If there is any slow down, it's not bad enough to fuck with my games.

>> No.6750392

>>6737090
Based emugen.

>> No.6750853

>>6749358
Even on original it displays 60fps.

I've read on a forum that RA like, fills the empty frames or something? So if it's 20fps it fills those frames which is why it's displaying 60fps. I don't know

>> No.6751258

>>6749308
Calling someone "Daniel" is only directed at people who try to invalidate any criticism of Retroarch as if their livelihood depends on it.
You know, like Daniel would?

>> No.6751301

>>6750321
>LaunchBox
Mate LaunchBox isn’t an emulator, it’s just an app where you can organise your roms and emulators, I use it withe retroarch and a few stand alone emulators

>> No.6751319

>>6751258
Sure dude

>> No.6751323

>>6750220
CRT-Royale-XM29 for every console
Commodore Monitor for Amiga and C64
You might need to download the analog shader pack 3.

>> No.6751332

>>6750220
>>6751323
for mega drive/genesis, use crt-royale 256 composite

>> No.6751338

>>6734795
Why blame the emulator because you're stupid though?

You could have just downloaded the emulator to your fucking phone. Downloaded the ONE core you needed to play pokeshit and then played it within 5 minutes of deciding you wanted to.

And yeah, cellphones are evil, evil trash and blah, blah, blah. But it would still run better than original hardware.

>> No.6751353

>>6751332
Yeah, fair exception. The signal degradation could be off-putting to newfags tho.

>> No.6751357
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6751357

>>6737407
MAN that was hard

>> No.6751363

>>6750220
>>6751323
And be sure to tweak the shaders slightly. By default they have that stupid curvature and vignetting. Take a look at the dotmask settings too, and tune them to your tastes.

>> No.6751401

>>6751357
too much shit to go through for me i like mednaffe because its comfier

>> No.6751415

>>6751401
retard

>> No.6751439

>>6751401
retard

>> No.6751474
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>>6751415
>>6751439

>> No.6751479

>>6751474
of course you're a wojak poster

>> No.6751516

>>6749068
Though less latency than real hardware = not accurate

>> No.6751626

>>6751323
>CRT-Royale-XM29 for every console
Turning every game pink doesn't look particularly great.

>> No.6751662

>>6751401
The truth is, you don't actually want to play vidya. You want to turn on an emulator, fuck around for a few minutes, and then turn it off to do something else. There's no other explanation for why you'd be this violently resistant to spending a couple of minutes setting things up for an objectively superior experience.

>> No.6751692
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6751692

>The truth is, you don't actually want to play vidya. You want to turn on an emulator, fuck around for a few minutes, and then turn it off to do something else. There's no other explanation for why you'd be this violently resistant to spending a couple of minutes setting things up for an objectively superior experience.

>> No.6751714

>>6751626
that's just the LUT which you can disable in the parameters
>>6751692
you know posting a wojak invalidates any sort of credibility your original post had right?

>> No.6751731
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6751731

>you know posting a wojak invalidates any sort of credibility your original post had right?
because saying you prefer to play games through a different software needs credibility

>> No.6751972

>>6734989
What the fuck? What happened to retroarch?

>> No.6751976

>>6735034
>does not know how to greentext
Back to plebbit.

>> No.6752025

>>6751972
tldr the github allegedly got hacked and you couldn't download any new ra versions or cores for like a week

>> No.6752864

>>6749545
>It requires <20 minutes to setup the entirety of gen 3, 4, and 5 with per-system resolution and shaders, and then you're done, you'll never have to do it again. Alternatively, scan your roms, plug in a controller, and just play if you want the base emulator experience with zero setup outside of running the core downloader a single time. It couldn't be easier, and the docs are extremely robust and easily searchable to cover any and every personalized tweak you'd want to do.
Next time I try to setup RetroArch I really should document every step I take and every problem I run into. Last time it was controller issues. Confusion over where to set universal controller settings (I'm sorry, "key bindings") that applied to every game on the console I was playing, and issues with the alternate UI not remembering any of my shader and controller settings from the classic full-screen UI, as if they were different programs.
>What seems to happen to a lot of users like you is that you start it up, dive right into the settings, are completely overwhelmed with the sheer amount of options presented, so you get frustrated and turn it off.
More or less, yeah. And you might think I'm some newbie to emulators, but that couldn't be further from the truth. I was emulating games all through the late 90s up to to around the late 00s. It's only in the last 10 years that I became an old fogey who can't catch up, with the emulation scene's focus shifting to multi-console experiences like RetroArch and MAME (even though MAME is much older) and the foreign concepts like "cores" and whatever the hell a Raspberry Pi is.

>> No.6753191

>>6734795
bgb nigga

>> No.6753225

What the fuck
>enable fullscreen if it's not already enabled
>set up gamepad which has sane defaults for every emulator
>point to your BIOSes
>point to your base ROM directory which has every game organized by system already... right? Right?
>don't waste time with its flawed rom detector and just fucking directly go to the fucking rom you want
>fuck shaders and other specialized settings which is a total goddamn waste of time
Takes no time to set up. Holy hell, people are dumb.

>> No.6753242

>>6753225
No, I can't do without playlists. Sorry.

>> No.6753245

>>6753242
Add 'ROM playlists' to the list of "zoomer emulation things my 80s/90s kid brain doesn't understand" that I started here >>6752864

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6753247

>>6734795
Another confirm that RetroArch is the biggest and most based brainlet filter there is

>> No.6753249

>>6753242
Why the goddamn fuck not? You DO have your fucking ROMs organized by system, right? So what the living fuck is the difference in browsing through your file system for a game and RA's shitty playlists that fail to include something if it's some unknown version/variant and takes a fucking eon to generate?
Holy hell, people are dumb.

>> No.6753279

>>6753247
>right arm
>left hand
neat

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>>6753242
settings > directories > file browser > rom/iso folder organized by system

>> No.6753289

>>6753281
Why can't it just look like a normal Windows program? Why hasn't anyone made a front end that lets you access every single facet of the program through normal Windows app windows?

>> No.6753325
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>>6753289
>Why can't it just look like a normal Windows program?
why does it have to? it's highly portable and designed to be operated with a controller, a windows interface isn't very suited for it
>Why hasn't anyone made a front end that lets you access every single facet of the program through normal Windows app windows?
because nobody has bothered to, retroarch does have a Qt interface that you can use for various functions, perhaps you can add to that

>> No.6753329

>>6753325
>it's highly portable and designed to be operated with a controller, a windows interface isn't very suited for it
Unless you control your Windows emulators with a goddamn mouse like a normal person would. I don't care that it's designed to be multi-platform. The vast majority of people who use it use it on their [insert OS] computer and it would be nice if there could be a version that functioned like a normal program would, with a standard file browser, drop down menus, etc. For some reason that's too much to ask the devs for.

>> No.6753338

>>6753329
you're talking to me like i don't use retroarch exclusively on my desktop
personally i prefer my programs keyboard-driven. fuck the mouse

>> No.6753343

>>6753329
libretro is open source, make your own front end instead of bitching like a little child

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>>6753289
What does a normal windows program look like? Anyway, the desktop menu works fine and it is open source afaik.

>> No.6753356

>>6753343
>spend years learning to program to do it yourself!!!11
Aaaand here we go. Didn't see that coming.

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6753359

>>6753289
>>6753329
>>6753346
ozone is also decent if you want to use your mouse

>> No.6753361

>>6753245

Thanks for letting us know. There are several reasons for wanting playlists. Firstly, when I go through the trouble of setting up a multi-system emulator frontend I want everything to be as smooth and quick as possible. I don't want to have to deal with the directories anymore at that point. If I can't detach from that mode of doing things why would I want a frontend in the first place? It would defeat its purpose. Explorer.exe is good for that. This is my setup and the benefits of playlists are obvious I think >>6735620

Secondly, RA hash checks ROMs. If you let it scan a large number of ROMs to inspect which will actually run fine why wouldn't you log the result of that process? It's in everybody's interest and good practice to use verified dumps in order to achieve a better emulation experience and RA is far from the only software that does this.

Lastly, and this isn't really true for RA but many other frontends - multi-system or not - are able to store meta info on your games such as cover art, screenshots, preview videos, year of release, genre, developer, publisher, revision version, back of the box description, etc. You get the idea. This sort of thing also works best when the underlying structure is akin to RA's playlists.

I don't really know what being born in the 80s does have to with you "not getting it". Maybe you're trying to give yourself some cred here but I don't care about that...


>>6753249
My God! What an outburst! Nice. Very theatrical. Definitely worthy of a (You)

>So what the living fuck is the difference in browsing through your file system for a game and RA's shitty playlists
I'd estimate at least one to several seconds of navigating the user interface until the desired result, no? Is your method faster than this >>6735620 ? Does it require less inputs?

>> No.6753370

>>6753359
Look, all I know is, last time I fucked around with setting RA up it wouldn't keep the settings I'd saved with the default UI whenever I'd switch over to RA's "desktop" mode, or whatever its called. I couldn't even find all of the features that the main mode had, for that matter. Maybe I need to give Ozone a shot. Thanks for the rec.

>> No.6753776

>>6734795
use bizhawk lol

>> No.6755004

i think we can all agree that ppl who dont like retroarch are the baby boomers of the gaming industry

>> No.6755431

>>6753370
To save the settings you have to save the config, easiest way is to just exit the program with no cores loaded then load it back up, it’s a safety feature so it doesn’t save settings if it crashes

>> No.6755541

>>6734795
Retroarch is shit, really, however it's the only good PS1 emulator. PCSX-R can suck its dick with all that plugin autism. Apart from that, just download some standalone emulator and you'll be fine.

>> No.6756114

>>6755541
retroarch isn't an emulator
the psx emulator people use with retroarch is mednafen

>> No.6756158

>>6753361
It's telling that this didn't get a response.

>> No.6756301

>>6756114
>the world isn't flat
Good luck with that Criss

>> No.6756652

>>6735040
What? Serious question. It always bugged me how they wouldn’t make a torrent or something with all the cores. Is there really a problem with downloading the cores now?

>> No.6756739

>>6752864
> Last time it was controller issues. Confusion over where to set universal controller settings
You don't actually have to do that at all. It has autoconfigs for every mainstream controller in existence, it's straight up plug and play, and maps the controls as closely to the controller it's emulating as possible.

This is a common complaint I see brought up, where new users start fucking with the controller settings because RA doesn't properly communicate that said autoconfigs exist and are taking care of it for you.

>> No.6756753

>>6734795
retroarch is but an interface for a number of emulators to "run in one place", kind of like steam is to pc games.
With the exception, of course, that you'll have to inevitably spend one or two years studying from 7am to 10pm to figure out a way for it to actually, you know, WORK and make your life simpler.
You're better off with the pure emulators, trust me.
A proper gameboy emulator will take you like 10 seconds tops to download and play

>> No.6756758

>>6756753
t. anon who has no clue what he's talking about

>> No.6756771

>>6756753
>Download retrouttershitarch because muh memes
>Have to download the same emulator I would anyways without retroarch
>Interface is unimaginably counter-intuitive and cryptic
>Have to download fucking BIOS files, not even epsxe makes you do that nowadays anymore
>Try to play psx rom file
>Doesn't work
>Spend hours messing around that godforsaken excuse for an interface
>Game runs but without sound
>Go on Google to sort the matter
>"Here download these sound things from shady websites"
>OK
>No sound
>2 more hours fiddling
>Game starts and closes
>2 more hours googling
>Ok finally game works
>Ok where's the input configs for this piece of crap
>there goes another 30 mins of my life
vs
>google epsxe
>click download
>google "game" psx iso
>click download
>Click epsxe open
>Click input > customize
Done

>> No.6756782

>>6756771
How the fuck do you even function as a human being?
I just can’t understand how incompetent this board is, or at least the ones that post, I’m sure there’s at least 3 of you that keep posting how inept you are

>> No.6756789

>>6756771
based. epsxe doesn't have the massive annoying bug which fucks up gameplay on retroarch either.
>"which one?"
exactly.

>> No.6756791

>>6756782
>Retroarch is terrible?
>No
>It's all the people who used it and say it's terrible who are wrong.

>> No.6756806

>>6756791
No one defends the UI. But its also not that difficult to figure out. If you don't think taking the 5 minutes you need to get comfortable with it is worth all of features its actually useful for then that's on you. But for everyone else the audio/video synching and input delay mitigation features male retroarch cores the best emulation experience for a number of consoles

>> No.6756819

>>6756806
Keep telling yourself that :)

>> No.6756824

>>6753361
> don't really know what being born in the 80s does have to with you "not getting it". Maybe you're trying to give yourself some cred here but I don't care about that...
The reason I mention it is to say that I'm from the generation that grew up with the first console emulators, from Pasofami onward. I feel really stupid when it comes to RA but I know I'm not *stupid* stupid, because for over 15 years I did not face the problems with standalone emulators that I have with RA today. And I suspect it's because while for the bulk of emulation history emu authors were pushing for greater user friendliness, RetroArch opts for more features while aiming at "advanced" users, i.e. emulation nerds.

For example, I don't understand hash checks. I never had to. I don't know and don't care about "rom sets"--Good, No-Intro, whatever--because for nearly 20 years I was able to torrent or visit ROM sites, and its only recently that the former presents problems with my ISP and the latter has gone nearly extinct. When you talk about it being in the best interest to use verified dumps, you might as well be speaking Greek to me--it doesn't seem relevant to someone who just wants to play Majora's Mask or Super Mario Sunshine.

It's cool that playlists are so important to you, but it's just another aspect of RA that mystifies me and makes me feel that there's a generation gap between people like me who used stuff like Nesticle as a teen and whoever RetroArch is meant for.
>>6755431
That's not obvious at all., but thanks! I get that there's documentation and everything, but I guess I expect emulator frontends to be self-explanatory enough that you don't need to read anything beforehand.
>>6756739
Thank you!

>> No.6756825

>>6756806
The UI is made for controller use so I imagine people complain because of that mainly

>> No.6756827

>>6735620
>>6751357
Now do it on Mint Linux. I tried everything. Installed from software manager, from synaptic and through the terminal. Updated everything to the latest version. The core list would never load. Found out there's no cores for my system, so I used the address for the other arquitectures and the cores wouldn't load, not even when installed manually. You know what's funny? I installed Wine and then installed retroarch for W7 and I had no problems apart from slowdown, which is understandable when doing this on an integrated chipset from 10 years ago. Ended up running no$gba on Wine and it just werks.
Never had any problems on Android though and I can even emulate Dreamcast.

>> No.6756829

>>6756824
I mean there’s a basic QuickStart guide that I read, everything else was pretty easy to figure out and I also was into emulation the same time as you, it just seems some people are quicker learners than others

>> No.6756870

>>6756114
>however it has the only good PS1 emulator*
There, now buzz off

>> No.6756876

>>6756870
epsxe is better than retroarch with PS1 cores. It's not even close

>> No.6756885

>>6756870
You can use mednafen without retroarch. That way you get the best of mednafen without the slowdown and UI nightmare.

>> No.6756902

>>6756824
>...and makes me feel that there's a generation gap between people like me who used stuff like Nesticle as a teen and whoever RetroArch is meant for.

I was born in 83, dude. It has nothing to do with it. Not understanding checksums though, or why verified clean ROM dumps are an improvement to how things were 10 or so years ago? That has everything to do with why you're feeling mystified. You've just fallen behind a bit. It happens. It would take little effort for you to catch up probably if you cared to. Playlists are just useful for those that have an extensive library of ROMs. It helps organize and browse through metadata. Filtering games by genre, publisher, year etc. Just a nice to have thing in a frontend while it shows you the box art instead looking at the Windows Explorer - which isn't very practical for say, a living room / couch setup.

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>>6756870
no... what? mednafen is a standalone emulator as well
dude i use retroarch as well, but for things it provides on top of the emulators, it's not an emulator itself
you're welcome to use mednafen standalone if you like

>> No.6756921

>>6756876
I did say PCSX-R can suck its dick with plugins, same applies for ePSXe
>>6756885
>>6756909
You'd be right if I was looking for accuracy. However, I'm more interesting on getting better Internal Resolution, which I couldn't do in mednafen. Maybe I am retarded though, but that's it.

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>>6756921
>I'm more interesting on getting better Internal Resolution, which I couldn't do in mednafen.
surprisingly, internal resolution upscaling is something that only the libretro port of mednafen has

>> No.6756967

>>6756961
>surprisingly, internal resolution upscaling is something that only the libretro port of mednafen has
That's what I said. The other way of doing this was using a plugin based emulator. Which is shite, because the plugins are either outdated, or are simply a total mess to work with.

>> No.6756972

>>6756885
But then you miss out on the excellent synching, runahead and shader support if youre into that kind of thing

>> No.6756973

>>6756824
>For example, I don't understand hash checks. I never had to
If you're willing to invest time into playing through a game, presumably you'd prefer that the game isn't going to be broken in various ways because it was improperly dumped.

Now put yourself in the shoes of an emulator developer, who's sorting through page after page of issues. Do you know how many problems come from people using broken, fucked up dumps from some nigger-tier rom website rather than simply grabbing a readily available set of good dumps? A whole fucking lot of them.

The amount of times I've helped 60IQ retards on emugen troubleshoot problems that are magically solved when I get them to use a redump or nointro rom instead is insane.
>it doesn't seem relevant to someone who just wants to play Majora's Mask or Super Mario Sunshine
You don't see how it would be relevant to grab a copy of the game that's going to work properly? I can't tell if you're trolling, or a tech illiterate boomer.

>> No.6756976

>>6756967
yea sorry, i was surprised myself to see that the libretro port does have unique features, so if you want internal res upscaling with the best emulator, then yea, seems you have to use retroarch
... still doesn't make retroarch an emulator, though

>> No.6756998

why do people waste time responding to garbage bait threads again?

>> No.6757009

>>6756998
vr would die, otherwise

>> No.6757031

>>6756976
Isn’t it like a framework rather than an emulator?

>> No.6757049

>>6757031
it's a frontend for the libretro api, and the emulators it uses are ones also ported to the libretro api (called "cores")
if you're familiar with emulator plugins, think of it like that, where retroarch does all the frontend stuff, takes input, displays output, etc, and the emulators themselves are plugins
like emulator plugins, there's nothing stopping someone make a different libretro frontend that takes libretro cores

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>>6735125
>>6735120

>> No.6757072

>>6757049
>there's nothing stopping someone make a different libretro frontend that takes libretro cores
someone should just counter the squarepushers.

>> No.6757075

>>6756771
>>Download retrouttershitarch because muh memes
>>Have to download the same emulator I would anyways without retroarch

You can't even do the 1st step now 'cause squarepusher wants you to gibe more money.

>> No.6757084

>>6756753
>kind of like steam is to pc games.
DRM is shit. Squarepusher shit was suppose to be le OPEN SAUCE. To the point that it steals code from closed sauce emus. Kek.

Anyways, Steam doesn't go around on 4chan crying about muh hackers and demand free money while stopping you from downloading the client.

>> No.6757090

>>6749646
I like furry autists who are accurate.
>Frontend is higan
Never knew, cause it just werkz and didn't tell me to go download cores which aren't downloadable anymore. Kek.

>> No.6757121

>>6757075
i don't know who squarepusher is, but retroarch is still available in my distro's mirrors

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>>6757075
>>6757090
It's back.
http://buildbot.libretro.com/nightly/windows/x86/latest/

>> No.6757468

>>6756827
sudo snap install retroarch

>> No.6757475

>>6757468
>snap
mint blocks snap by default now you have to delete a preference file or something to even install snap

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>>6738653
I pick both.

>> No.6757536

>>6757475
Supposedly this, but I don't have said file and still tried the snap version. Everything installed correctly, but it didn't appear in any menus and when trying to launch through terminal it would say a file or directory was missing. Then again, I'm stuck on the last 32-bit version, so that might be a problem.

>> No.6757630

>>6734795
I bet you also have trouble wiping yourself.

>> No.6758665

Bump

>> No.6758741

>>6751714
>that's just the LUT which you can disable in the parameters
how? I don't see the option

>> No.6758779

>>6750220
CRT-Lottes

>> No.6758917

people who use retroarch are people who's wives left them because they use bad programs

>> No.6759230

>>6757475
>>6757536
did they really? I used mint a couple months ago and I remember using snap no problem

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>>6759230

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>>6758741
Replace the LUT with Stock in the shader stack.

>> No.6759958

>>6757521
That's the shitty RGB fliter that you can find in DOSBox too.

>> No.6759961

>>6757257
i guess it's time to close the thread. drama's over. quit using it as an excuse to shill more, squarepusher.

>> No.6759967

>>6758917
>Wife wants to fuck
>"Hold on honey I'm just checking out a great new retroarch feature!"
>5 minutes later
>"Hang on the update broke everything. I'll have it sorted soon though"
>2 hours later
>"Done! Come look at this!"
>Wife sees a blurry, filtered, laggy version of contra and cries

>> No.6760001

What benefits, if any, does this have over simply using a standalone emulator?

>> No.6760003

>>6759958
>>6759961
>>6759967

>>6744949

>> No.6760009

>>6760003
You can't say everyone who dislikes retroarch is mentally ill. That's like... the majority of people.

>> No.6760163

>>6759967
>as she wipes my seed from her face
>i fucked her in the ass
>giganigga.jpg

>> No.6760172

>>6734795
How bout the fact RA has the better quality emulation now than standalone for psx, N64 , and DS

>> No.6760264

>>6759338
I feel bad for asking, but where is the stock shader located? is it shaders_slang\stock.slang?

>> No.6760273

>>6759961
huh? You don't know how threads work.
Also, OPs intention wasn't to damage RA anyway, he just wanted help.

>> No.6760280

Isn't CRT-Royale and all its variants really shit for 1080p?

>> No.6760289

>>6760264
All of the stock shaders are found in their respective top directory, yes.

>> No.6760290

>>6760280
If the issue is what I assuming then I think you just have to turn off interlacing on the shader parameters.

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>>6760280
Depends on what you're looking for. I think it looks pretty okay. Here's one of my CRTs vs Royale at 1080p. Personally I think Royale looks a bit better.

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>>6760297

>> No.6760316

>>6760309
Stop using composite preset retard

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>>6760316
Thank you based carmack of unblended dithering.

>> No.6760327

>>6760324
The cost of blending dithering is too high, it smudges the image beyond repair.

>> No.6760328

>>6760297
>>6760309
What's with the weird banding on Jim's shoulder in the Royale shot? Also there's a lot of combing across the image too.

>> No.6760334

>>6760172
But it doesn't. It's many times over worse than the standalone options for those consoles.

>> No.6760338

>>6760334
Not really.

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>>6760309
Here's mine, a little different

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>>6760328
Combing is just composite being composite. You can get a better still image by using blargg's pass instead, but then you get weird shimmering on dithered surfaces in motion.
>>6760334
Based anon sticking it to SP.

>> No.6760349

>>6760290
Thanks. Also I'm supposed to use integer scaling right? Is x6/x5 generally the recommended spot for 1080p?

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A comical example of what that XM29 shader's lookup table does to colors.

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>> No.6760398

>>6735034
I did learn one thing about save states and Beetle PSX recently. Reloading a state also loads the memory card state and it will overwrite your memcard file on a proper close content afterwards. Lost a bunch of hours of SOTN progress that way.

>> No.6760402

>>6755541
There's Mednafen which has the best PS1 emulation available (thats were the Beetle Cores are btw)

>> No.6760405

>>6760398
what?
that's not true at all

>> No.6760431

>>6760398
Save states include SRAM, so if you were to save to memory, save a state, play for dozens of hours while saving to memory, and then load your previous state, it's going to roll back your memory card save to where it was when the initial save state took place. It's not a Beetle thing in particular, you'll run into the same problem on most systems.

One of the major reasons why I advise serious caution when using save states, and always recommend using proper in-game saving methods if available. Another common issue you can experience is that an emulator is updated in a way that invalidates states saved with the previous version. At minimum, back up the previous version of your emulators before updating, or make sure you've finished your current playtrhough.

>> No.6760436

>>6760431
You can also enable the function under Saving [Don't overwrite SaveRAM on loading savestate], but SP claims that this can break certain games, thus it isn't enabled by default.

>> No.6760440

>>6760431
>>6760436
it's probably better to enable the autosave sram at intervals if it's disabled

>> No.6760849

Cores seem to be coming back up.

What are the best cores for each Nintendo system?

>> No.6760938

>>6760849
https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Libretro#Cores

>> No.6761419

>>6760938
Did you read the question? I know what all the cores are, now which are the best.

>> No.6761451

>>6761419
>>6761419
i use snes9x, beetlepsx, mGBA.

>> No.6761771

>>6760371
>>6760374
Explain please. Which one is supposed to look like the real thing? They both look good.

>> No.6761778

>>6760371
>>6760374
And how would you know which LOT to use?

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>>6761771
The second one is with the LUT. It's specifically using this file, so there's no surprise it mangles colors to such a degree.

>> No.6761804

>>6761793
Thanks. So you use this file to test the LUT settings within the emu? I still don't get how to determine the right values in the shader. Are they wrong on a per-game basis or is the whole system "fucked"?

>> No.6761831

>>6761804
The color lookup table is there to modify all of the colors, presumably to match what the creator of the shader thought most accurately matched an xm29, but judging by xm29 photos, it doesn't do a great job at that, and often heavily alters the palette in bizarre ways. An example of that was posted earlier, where megaman goes from blue to light purple.
>Are they wrong on a per-game basis or is the whole system "fucked"?
Objectively, it's "wrong" on every game, but if you happen to enjoy those colors, who am I to judge. It's also simple to remove the LUT entirely if you otherwise enjoy the shader.

>> No.6761840

>>6761831
Thanks anon.

>> No.6761905

>>6755004
yes we really can, I think that people who say retroarch is bad are fake fans of retroarch and not real.