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$260 dollars... HAAHAHAHAHA Imagine paying hundreds or thousands to this guy on patreon over the years only for this. Luckily you loyal patrons get $15 off! LMAO

>> No.6731578

If you gave any fucks about Saturn you'd have a MODE already.

>> No.6731580

Haven't really kept up with the unit for a while now. If the compatibility is high, that price isn't entirely awful. I think I'd probably go $200 max on something like that though. Also really sucks for Patrons. Is that even for people who payed high amounts?

>> No.6731583

>>6731580
It sure is, one size fits all. A bunch were able to get beta units though I believe.

>> No.6731619

For $260 this thing should also be a VCD card. Why he omitted that functionality is a mystery to me.

>> No.6731634

>>6731571
I guess I have no choice because the disk drive in my saturn died. Will this work even if I got a mod chip installed? I installed it so long ago I forgotten the process and I am worried about removing/adding shorts that I had to do.

>> No.6731643

>>6731634

Bro if your disc drive died you should just buy a Fenrir or MODE for much cheaper, the big selling point to this is you can use a disc drive with it.

>> No.6731686

>year ago
literally nothing minus rhea that was unobtainable
>today
3 ODEs
what the fuck happen bros?

>> No.6731720

>>6731571
do patreons at least get some rebate or something?

>> No.6731770

>>6731720

This guy probably made 50k from his patreon at least. Now its time to hose people again!! When will a clone come out?

>> No.6731783

>>6731686
Prof Abrasive was holding out since the Rhea/Phoebe guy wasn't selling his ode in large quantities. With so many ODE out now, his patreon slaves were getting angsty forcing him to release the Satiator.
I bet it'll be the worst option outside of being the only one to keep the disc drive.

>> No.6731965

When will I be able to buy a chink ODE clone for less than 50 bucks?

>> No.6731978

>>6731571
Oh that's a bit much :(

>> No.6731982

>>6731965
When the chinks find a way to produce it at that price, retard.

>> No.6732074

This is irritating because it'd be nice to have a plug-and-play solution that doesn't require gutting a Saturn but $260 plus no VCD support for the upcoming Lunar english hack? Fuck that.

>> No.6732303

>>6731571
lol. When are the fucking chinks going to clone fenrir?

>>6731619
It's a mystery to you that the faggot is retarded?

>> No.6732336

>>6732303
That faggot dwarfs you with his technical knowledge.

>> No.6732343

>>6731578
I intend to, although I'm debating whether or not to get a whole separate Saturn to do that to.

>> No.6732361

>>6731578
I'm not dealing with companies that reside in tax havens to safe a few measly Euros

>> No.6732448

>>6731571
Guess I'm not getting one after all. Bummer.

>> No.6732523

>>6731578
>MODE
No thanks. I love my Saturn, but I'm not gonna buy a MODE just because you're trying to sell some to retro gamers on 4chan.

>> No.6732526

What about that red cart I keep hearing about? Isn't that supposed to be a good plug-and-play option?

>> No.6732537

>>6732526
That's just for playing burned games. This plugs into the MPEG decoder slot and plays games from an SD card.

>> No.6732563

Didn't he make the patreon public the post before? now the latest post is locked. He obviously knew this was going to be met with some backlash.

>> No.6732591
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>> No.6732597

>>6731571
is there an explanation for the ridiculously high price? is the hardware expensive to source/manufacture?

Typically it doesn't matter what someone wants to charge for their product. But, this situation is different. He has been mooching off his patrons for years now. It was entirely reasonable for them to expect a much lower price considering the prices of comparable products and also given the fact that his R&D costs were covered by his Patreon income. Most of his patrons would not have supported him if they knew what the price would be. He knows that. Unless there is a damned good reason for that price, he has really fucked over the people supporting him all these years.

>> No.6732616

>>6732597
If I had to guess, the decision to manufacture in USA is what's caused this price. Abrasive said in his last post that it was for quality reassurance but obvs the covid pandemic has really affected the process.

>> No.6732619

>>6732597
The only thing I can think that might contribute is that he paid out the ass for the tooling for the case design or some other kind of low run related cost.

>> No.6732652

>>6732616
>If I had to guess
You could be right, but his supporters deserve a direct explanation. They put a lot of trust in him and gave him a lot of money. His patrons, especially those who supported him the longest, shouldn't be paying much over cost since they funded his R&D, and I doubt each unit costs him over $200 to produce.

Last year, I supported him on Patreon at the lowest level to get access to his updates but stopped a couple months later after I started getting the grifter vibe from him as there was very little evidence that he was putting much work into the project. Suddenly, after all these years, he manages to finish it within months of new competitors entering the market? I call bullshit.

The people who supported him for years should be pissed, I'm glad he only got a few bucks out of me. There must be many people people who have paid hundreds of dollars to him only to get a $15 discount on a product that should cost half as much.

>> No.6732654

What do you guys feel would be a more reasonable price? I was assuming it would be like $199, which would still be a bit steep considering the new competition, but not out of line with similar products from Krikzz for example.

>> No.6732662

>>6732652
It's a weird situation because he's clearly talented. It's not like these fly by night guys that show up every now and then promising some awesome product and then show off "prototypes" for months on end before vanishing. He clearly knows his shit and the product supposedly works great so it's not like he's in a position where he'd need to pull shenanigans. That's why I don't think I'm ready to call foul just yet. I suppose it's possible that the competition lit a fire under his ass, though, that was lacking when he was taken people's money on Patreon.

>> No.6732673

>>6732654
>What do you guys feel would be a more reasonable price?
had he just came out with a product one day, without mooching on Patreon for several years, the price wouldn't be such a big issue. Instead, he took tens of thousands of dollars on Patreon while likely putting very little time into the project, mooched as long as possible until competitors forced him into the market, and still priced his product higher than alternatives while thanking his supporters with a measly 6% discount.

>> No.6732674

>>6732654
Had my heart set on $150

>> No.6732679

>>6732662
>it's possible that the competition lit a fire under his ass, though, that was lacking when he was taken people's money on Patreon
this is exactly what happened. Why release a product when you are essentially getting paid thousands of dollars per month to not release it?

>> No.6732684

>>6731578
That's retarded. Just buy a Phantom Universal or a Action Replay cartridge with Pseudo Saturn Kai are a way better alternative for a fraction of the price.

>> No.6732697

>>6731571
Good thing I didn’t pay to his Patreon. $260 is steep but worth it if the compatibility is rock solid since it’s inline with the pricing of a Mega SD or Super SD System 3 which are similarly modular ODEs.

Will wait for deets and what to expect for priorities from future revisions, since $260 is a high ask if there’s a chance of VCD card functionality later being added.

>> No.6732701

>>6732684
not sure about the Phantom but issues with pseudo saturn are that writing games to disc (especially if you no longer a cd writer) and that not all writable CD's work. I know this first hand and tried a few different brands of cds and in the process definitely shortened the life of my saturns laser.

>> No.6732712

>>6732697
This is what I need to see to be on board. I'm not enthusiastic about gutting my Saturn so if the Satiator is essentially "perfect", as in 100% bug free library support and doubles as a VCD card, then I'd be willing to pinch my nose and pay the $260 for the plug-and-play convenience. But barring that there's no way that price is justifiable.

>> No.6732725

>>6732619
wasn't that exactly what the patreon was for?

>> No.6732726

>>6732679
Exactly. Patreon just creates perverse incentives for this kind of one-off product. I'm not the biggest fan of Kickstarter, but it makes a lot more sense from a backer standpoint.

>> No.6732765

>>6732725
This is the fundamental problem with crowdsourcing in general. It's become a way of spreading risk while centralizing profit without any actual obligations to the people who are funding you. You essentially have a stable of investors who you owe nothing to beyond a promise to deliver *something*.

>> No.6732786

>>6732701
The Phantom works perfect, has no issues like the Kai as far as I know but since buying an Action Replay is almost mandatory is you're gonna actually use your Saturn, kai is free.
You're not gonna break the laser of any cd/dvd or similar media reader by over using it. They're all made to last like 60,000 hours of constant use. Even if that number got reduced to 6000 hours, you won't use your Saturn for that long.
The laser will probably die for other reasons before it dies from over use.
Buy good quality cds, they're cheap. Just google what brands to buy.

>> No.6732794

instead of donating to his patreon I put $10 a month into a box for the last 2 years, so instead of $15 off I got $240 off

thanks patrons :)

>> No.6732796

>>6732654
$149.99

>> No.6732828

>>6731580
To be fair, saturnfags were never the smartest

>> No.6732832

>>6732786
hmmmm, perhaps you're right. I mean you do have to perform a disc swap to flash the AR so maybe that whats cause the laser reading.

Although when using pseudo saturn, I could actually hear my saturn struggling to read data. It would make noises i had never heard it make before.

>> No.6732842

>>6732794
dangerously based

>> No.6732853

>>6732828
To be fair, you have to have a very low IQ to be a saturnfag. The library is extremely limited and without a solid grasp of Japanese, most of the games will go over a typical saturnfag's head.

>> No.6732868

>>6732832
That sucks. I didn't have that problem with the kai so I don't know what to tell you. Maybe wait until some chink clones the Satiator. The Chinktiator might be really cheap.

>> No.6732869

>>6732853
or just be able to understand written and spoken japanese

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>ode

>> No.6733039

>>6732929
could you please limit your wojak-spamming to crt/rgb-threads?

>> No.6733108

>>6733039
I see söy, the söyjak gets posted. I don’t make the rules.

>> No.6733119

>>6731571
>Luckily you loyal patrons get $15 off! LMAO
They also get it 7 days ahead of everyone else - imagine how privileged and honoured they must feel.

Rumour has it they might get a special emoji to use in chat and a drop of Abrasive's cum if they get the higher tier membership.

>> No.6733130

>>6732654
Panzer Dragoon Orta is literally ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS. This plays that and every other Saturn game. $260 is an absolute steal.

>> No.6733137

>>6733130
A pseudo saturn plays everything and costs almost nothing.

>> No.6733138

>>6733130
The Fenrir and MODE do that too, for less money. What an idiotic argument.

>> No.6733142

>>6733130
>absolute steal
As in theft? I agree.

>> No.6733150

>>6733130
I'd rather pay the $1000 dollars for the game then to give a single penny to that fucking robbing aussie prick

>> No.6733154

>>6733130
Beetle Saturn does so
For free.

>> No.6733162

>>6732336
Doesnt make him less of a faggot tho

>> No.6733171

>>6731571
Yeah. The guy is really milking this. I was expecting 99$ or something. 260$ is a hard pass. Fuck him.

>> No.6733179

*inhales*

Bwahahahahaha

>> No.6733191

>>6733130
I can’t tell if you’re being intentionally retarded or not

>> No.6733203

>>6733130
burn a disc nigga
also orta is on xbox you fucking spastic

>> No.6733216

no rush, I'll wait for the Ali Express copy for 20$

>> No.6733236

>>6733138
The mode chip is like $20 and you can still play your original games.

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>>6733130

>> No.6733241

>>6733130
you're either a troll or retarded

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>>6732853
>a very low IQ to be a saturnfag.
>a solid grasp of Japanese
Whenever people these days spam "low IQ", you already know they are embarrassingly stupid themselves.

>> No.6733303

>>6733130
It's not what I expected desu and I'm a long time backer

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>>6731571

>> No.6733369 [DELETED] 

>>6733252
Trump's IQ is at least 160 you fool

>> No.6733383 [DELETED] 

>>6733369
If Trump is 160 then the average IQ is 200.

>> No.6733393
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>>6731571
i can afford this because I have a job, but how much compatibility does this have?
can I pop literally every saturn game on that sd card and be fine?

>> No.6733397

>>6733393
That's my question, too. If it has 100% compatibility then that's the only way I'd fork over that much money. If there are games that don't work or have bugs and it's one of those "wait for the firmware updates" bullshit that happens with every flashcart then count me out.

>> No.6733402

>>6733397
agreed. the only reason i bought a real everdrive 64 was the 100% compatibility, which seems pretty rare when it comes to flashcarts.

>> No.6733403 [DELETED] 

>>6733383
Where's your real estate empire?

>> No.6733406 [DELETED] 

>>6733403
You mean the one he inherited from his daddy and then immediately bankrupted? When are /pol/tards going to realize that being born rich is not a talent.

>> No.6733415 [DELETED] 

>>6733406
It's all what matters.

Also not a pol poster

>> No.6733419

>>6731571
Almost 80 replies and no one asks for source? Where's the link, motherfucker? What are you all? Sheep?

>> No.6733429 [DELETED] 

>>6733369
i believe you... internet person, you wouldn't lie to me :D

>> No.6733430 [DELETED] 

>>6733406
when you realize that cutting off your dick doesn't make you a woman.

>> No.6733439 [DELETED] 

>>6733430
You're happily taking it up the ass from the Republican party and yet I'm the faggot? If you're not rich yourself then you're on the wrong side.

>> No.6733468 [DELETED] 

>>6733439
>democrats fine me for being too poor to afford health insurance
>trump becomes president
>get better job
>earn more
>pay less taxes
yeah they're really fucking me

>> No.6733509

>>6733430
Just accept that you are a fucking retard with a vegetable IQ. Stop posing will make you feel better. Every day you get out of bed, look into the mirror and say out loud: I'm-a-fucking-vegetable. That's the first step. And if you are nice maybe we will water you two times a day.

>> No.6733518 [DELETED] 

>>6733468
What does Trump have to do with you getting a better job?

>> No.6733529 [DELETED] 

>>6733518
Trump also doubled the standard deduction. when you grow up and get a job yourself you'll start caring about taxes.

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>>6733439
>>6733518
>republicans are fucking you
>t-trump has nothing to do with the economy when its doing well

>> No.6733552 [DELETED] 

>>6733547
But the economy isn't doing well, retard.

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>>6733552
OH NO NO NO NO

>> No.6733564 [DELETED] 

>>6733563
>thinks the stock market is "the economy"
Yup. Definitely a retard.

>> No.6733565

>>6731686
terraonion btfo of everyone. everyone seems to hate them but shipping a broken product is better than no product and these stupid faggots finally are learning that.

>> No.6733567 [DELETED] 

>>6733552
Because of this fake ass pandemic the chinks and chink loyalists are milking

>> No.6733569 [DELETED] 

>>6733564
>didnt buy the dip
SALTY

>> No.6733572 [DELETED] 

>>6733567
>160,000 Americans dead
>fake ass pandemic
At least pick a plausible conspiracy theory, Alex Jones.

>> No.6733574 [DELETED] 

>>6733572
tell us about the mailboxes now lol

>> No.6733575 [DELETED] 

>>6733572
They're just crisis actors

I'm being sarcastic. What kind of idiot believes in crisis actors?

>> No.6733580

>>6732361
you mean to literally stay in business? they have openly admitted they could not remain profitable while living in Spain

>> No.6733586 [DELETED] 

>>6733572
Most of those weren't even covid deaths people who died with covid not from and they add into the statistics so they could get more chinkbucks from the who you retarded nigger. This isnt the black death the average age of "covid death" is 4 years over the average lifespan. The survival rate is 99% like give me a fucking break you news watching retard fear monger. I still dont know a single person that even had it.

>> No.6733590 [DELETED] 

>>6733575
So the government never does anything nefarious. Hot take smoothbrain

>> No.6733593 [DELETED] 

>>6733590
>So the government never does anything nefarious.
Quite the contrary. Our government is doing something nefarious right now with their handling of this shitshow.

>> No.6733594 [DELETED] 

>>6733586
you probably know a lot of people who have had it as 80% of cases are completely asymptomatic. its the biggest nothingburger of all-time.

>> No.6733597 [DELETED] 

>>6733594
>160k deaths in murica
>Shut down the entire world and most international travel is banned
>nothingburger

Does your handler know you post here?

>> No.6733603 [DELETED] 

>>6733593
You don't understand. "Nefarious" means "nonsense conspiracies I like to believe to feel important" not "routine incompetence that can be attributed to the dear leader I like."

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>>6733597
>>6733572

>> No.6733642

>>6733419
https://www.satiator.net/Satiator_p_12.html
https://www.retrorgb.com/satiator-price-availability-revealed.html

>> No.6733684 [DELETED] 

>>6733597
Yeah it's so deadly most people dont know they have it. News watching faggots need to be banned from this site.

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>>6731571
>$15 off for Patreon's

>> No.6733740 [DELETED] 

>>6733684
>news

I pay attention to medical professionals. Here's your last (You)

>> No.6733756 [DELETED] 

>>6733740
What about all the ones who dont agree with the chink narrative? If you actually wear a cuck muzzle out in public you need to turn in your man card.

>> No.6733765 [DELETED] 

>>6733756
how does a piece of paper muzzle anyone lmao

also wtf is a "man card"

>> No.6733787 [DELETED] 

>>6733765
Forget it. These retards are literally trying to murder their grandparents and acting like everyone else is crazy.

>> No.6733794 [DELETED] 

>>6733765
a man card is an abstract symbol of your masculinity but I see you misplaced yours.

>> No.6733796 [DELETED] 

>>6733787
holy fuck you're stupid newsie

>> No.6733797 [DELETED] 

>>6733765
>>6733787
It's people who are insecure as fuck about their masculinity.

It's fucking weird as shit because this is the perfect time for those tacticool larpers to actually wear their shit in public without people laughing at them.

>> No.6733806 [DELETED] 

>>6733797
hahaha so submitting is so masculine bro

>> No.6733830 [DELETED] 

When did this place get so full of mommas boys, we have resetera and reddit for people like you.

>> No.6733852 [DELETED] 

>>6733797
But if everyone is doing it then its not cool.

That's their entire personality in a nutshell. They're the right wing version of the dyke with purple hair--its only worth doing if society doesn't approve.

>> No.6733863 [DELETED] 

>>6733852
this is a reddit post

>> No.6733871 [DELETED] 

>>6733806
Yes it's terrible not having a ventilator tube shoved in my throat.

>> No.6733879 [DELETED] 

>>6733863
Not an argument

>> No.6733882 [DELETED] 

>>6733871
it can't be much different drom dilating your neovagina

>> No.6733893 [DELETED] 

>>6733882
Do you have any other jokes

>> No.6733894 [DELETED] 

These covid deniers are hilarious. "Don't believe the government lies!" on one hand and "should just listen to the cops!" on the other. They're so retarded they can't even get their allegiences straight.

>> No.6733902 [DELETED] 

>>6733894
Question authority, but don't grab the cop's gun unless you're ready to die.

>> No.6733903 [DELETED] 

>>6733894
>social distance! wear a mask!
>um, unless its to protest

>> No.6733905 [DELETED] 

>>6733894
See you after the presidential election

>> No.6733906 [DELETED] 

>>6733903
Do you know how to have a coherent convo with relevant points

>> No.6733915 [DELETED] 

>>6733906
You could address the no mask protest one.

>> No.6733918 [DELETED] 

>>6733915
Most protesters generally do wear masks unless its an anti mask protest so whats your point? Plus protests are outside where masks are less necessary anyway.

>> No.6733925 [DELETED] 

>>6733918
Would you make special concessions for a person's right to protest if their beliefs resembled your own?

>> No.6733984 [DELETED] 

>>6733894
Nobody said that you left wingers are debating a ben Shapiro strawman and its fucking pathetic. I can do it too
>dont listen to police but listen to the shill media.

News watchers are the biggest dunning Krugers out there.

>> No.6733996 [DELETED] 

>>6733984
>Ican do it too
>dont listen to police but listen to the shill media.
Apparently you can't because that's not a corollary to the example I gave where both statements are equally "the government." You tried to give an example of left wing hypocrisy, which there are indeed some, and still fucked it up.

>> No.6734003 [DELETED] 

>>6733925
I would make special concessions to break any law if it was in the name of beliefs that I share.

>> No.6734007 [DELETED] 

>>6733996
I don't give a fuck what the Chinese communist party says faggot

>> No.6734008 [DELETED] 

>>6733996
>implying the media isn't an arm of the government

>> No.6734014 [DELETED] 

>>6734008
These fucking idiots love to talk about how the cia forced niggers to take up smoking crack but outright deny unclassified shit like mockingbird

>> No.6734052 [DELETED] 

>>6734014
>>6734008
>>6734007
>>6734003
>>6733996
>>6733984
>>6733925
>>6733918
>>6733915
>>6733906
>>6733905
>>6733903
>>6733902
>>6733894
>>6733893
>>6733882
>>6733879
>>6733871
>>6733863
>>6733852
go back to pol, faggots

>> No.6734076

Not that I don't love to shitpost but apparently Satiator doesnt work with AR carts. Fuck this expensive trash.

>> No.6734353

>>6734076

Action replay is fucking stupid!!!

>> No.6734395

>>6734353
Without one a Saturn is damn near useless

>> No.6734470 [DELETED] 

>>6733586
You are brainwashed.

>> No.6734471 [DELETED] 

>>6734470
why even reply if that's all you have to say?

>> No.6734534 [DELETED] 

>>6734470
I would say the same thing about you, what I know comes from things I have researched for myself, what you know comes from others and you just take their word for it you're brainwashed anon

>> No.6734570 [DELETED] 

>>6734534
You all sound the same. Enjoy being part of the hive.

>> No.6734579 [DELETED] 

>>6734570
People who wear their cuck muzzle are part of the hive you Chinese bugman

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>>6732336
Top kek kid

>> No.6734780

>>6733642
Thx

>> No.6734794

Don't you have to register your mode with terrasoy like the gdemu?

>> No.6734803

>>6731578
>ode

Fuck no i want to play physical games

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>>6734052
>go back to pol, faggots

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>>6731571
>260 dollars
>even longtime patrons get only $15 off
Jesus christ, talk about owned. Imagine all the cucks who stayed behind this product even after the release of 2 other, cheaper ODEs.

>> No.6734947 [DELETED] 

>>6733894
>>6733871

>believing this shit virus is dangerous to anyone younger than 80
>even over 80, only those die from it who had a 50% chance of dying this year anyway

You sure are quick to give up most of your rights just because a government says so.

Masks are worthless. If you are so scared, why aren’t you “self-isolating” at home? Think of all the old people you would be saving! (Except they will die anyway)

>> No.6734968 [DELETED] 

>>6734947
Yeah and this is 2020 you can get groceries delivered. If you're so scared stay the fuck home. My rights dont end where your feelings begin.

>> No.6734974

>>6734794
But you don't have to register a gdemu and I have an authentic one. Only ode I can think of with registration other than the MODE is the psio.

>> No.6735282 [DELETED] 

>>6734052
Mass reply is a bannable offense.

>> No.6735287

>>6734580
Gen-X

>> No.6735343

>>6735287
>50 yo zoomer
Top kek kid

>> No.6735362

>>6735343
I'm not 50

>> No.6735397

>>6731571
Imagine being stupid enough to pay this guy more than a dollar a month, when absolutely nothing was promised in return, aside from priority preordering or beta units (if you were in the highest tier). People did this to themselves, and now they're mad about it? Cry me a fucking river.

>> No.6735403

>>6732074
The translation patch isn't for the MPEG version.

>> No.6735415

>>6733171
If you actually thought it would be under 200, I have a bridge to sell you

>> No.6735420

>>6734974
Every terraonion product requires registration for firmware

>> No.6735436

>>6734907
>>6733715
you support a patreon because you believe in it.
they're lucky they're getting anything at all, donating doesn't mean anyone owes you anything.

>> No.6735442

>>6735436
Here we have the product designer himself

>> No.6735787

>>6735362
You don't deny the zoomer part so the number is irrelevant

>> No.6736229
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6736229

>>6735436
>The people that have supported my ass for years deserve fuck all while I worked at a snail's pace, risked nothing, and get to reap all the reward after the fact.
Worthless piece of shit. He knew time was up when the MODE was announced, the stupid cunt.

>> No.6736271

>>6735436
Relying on a technical loophole doesn't make it any less scummy. He certainly didn't go out of his way to tell his benefactors in advance their years long contributions would be worth a $15 discount.

>> No.6736294

>>6736271
He doesn't give a fuck about the people who supported him. I expected his product to be priced much lower than alternatives since his R&D was funded by the community. But no, instead he prices it higher than all other options because he knows it will sell out anyway.

>> No.6736362

>>6734794
test
terrasoy
terraonions

>> No.6736523

>>6734974
>>6735420
Serious question, but can someone please explain how this is a negative? I understand the PSIO DRM is fucking retarded and they STILL got ripped off by the Chinese. But TO isn't stingy with how many times you can log in, and you can easily remove your serial so you can sell your stuff. And AFAIK they haven't been ripped off by China

>> No.6736727
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6736727

>>6733236
>mode chip
MODE != mod chip

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6736731

>>6733397
>If it has 100% compatibility

>> No.6736735

>>6736731
how many fucking platforms has this game been released on

>> No.6736736

>>6735420
good thing gdemu isn't from terraonion.

>> No.6736765

>>6736727
It's sold out. No point in trying to sell this on 4chan, anon.

>> No.6736991

>>6736765
Did you even check the site?

>> No.6737083

>>6736731
That's why he needs to add VCD support. For $260 his "I don't feel like it" isn't going to cut it.

>> No.6737143

>>6736991
Mode is sold out you dummy.

>> No.6737146

>>6736735
MPEG version isn't even in English. Much ado about nothing

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6737191

>>6737143
???

>> No.6737726

>>6737146
>version isn't even in English
英語版はクソだ。
日本語版はさいこう!
ばかなイーオーピー

>> No.6737882

>>6731578
I don't want to throw out my perfectly functional disc drive to play backups more conveniently, I can already burn off a copy of any game I want as it is.

As for the Satiator, this price is absolutely taking the piss, you would think having almost the entire development costs crowdfunded would have factored into the pricepoint, the least he could do would be to offer the backers more than a measly $15 discount.

>> No.6738065

>>6737882
I just threw my drive, screws and all that shit in the box the mode came in. Using a Pseudo Saturn to read backups works well, it's what I've been doing for close to 2 years, but the cds were starting to skip and sometimes the Saturn couldn't read them properly.

>>6737143
they're doing preorders again

>> No.6738385

>>6731619
It's purpose is to play games, not run movies at a shit framerate and resolution and slightly enlarge video for the two games on the saturn that support it.

>> No.6738414

>>6732786
>Just google what brands to buy.
I only find articles from late 90-early 00 how CD-R qualities and brands long gone.
No one tests how good modern shit disks are.

>> No.6738443

>>6738414
Taiyo Yudens work fine. I got mine off Ebay and they work perfectly depending on the condition of your laser. That or Sony or JVC branded if you can still find them. Don't worry too much about pedantic fucks who say X doesn't make good quality CD's anymore or Y is owned by X blah blah blah. Use conventional brands and burn at the lowest speed you can and everything should be fine.

>> No.6738445

>>6738414
I don't have the expertise to really offer you much information on the matter, but I can say from personal experience that the regular Kodak cd's that I buy have not given me any issues, and are much better quality than the garbage discs I'd buy in bulk in the early 2000s.

>> No.6738446

>>6738414
Verbatims. You don't need anything else

>> No.6738479

>>6738414
Verbatim CD-Rs worked fine for me. I paid $40 CAD on a stack of 100.

>> No.6738497

>>6738446
>>6738479
Verbatims are shit.
I used TDK on my Saturn and decided to test Verbatim just for the kicks. And I got immediately skipping sound in Grandia and just in general longer loadings.

>> No.6738498

>>6738445
>Kodak
Wanted to try that ones. There's a store with them nearby, but it's some modern versions obviously.

>> No.6738502

>>6738443
>Taiyo Yudens
Not viable for me because import price is times bigger that the price itself.

>> No.6738528

>>6738497
>$80 for 100 TDK CD-Rs
lmao you might as well just spend the extra cash and get a Fenrir or MODE

>> No.6738541

>>6738528
>lmao you might as well just spend the extra cash and get a Fenrir or MODE
Why are you quoting me, you idiot?
My stack of TDK will soon be 15 years old.

>> No.6738543

>>6738497
Only Verbatims here, never had an issue. Gobble some nigger dick.

>> No.6738550

>>6738541
Suck my dick poorfag, don't fucking talk to me.

>> No.6738554

>>6738550
Pitiful.
>>6738543
>works on my machine
Pitiful, too.

>> No.6738981

>>6737146
muh eop know-nothing

>> No.6739052

>>6738385
Some games use the VCD card though. Without VCD support the Satiator can't have 100% software compatibility, which for $260 it damn well better.

>> No.6739112

>>6731571
Stopped my support and I'm out

>> No.6739123

>>6737191
Stop shilling your shitty wares Terraonions

>> No.6739774

lol he is trying to play "good guy" and is increasing the discount to *some* patrons though he doesn't say how much

https://www.patreon.com/posts/patron-discount-40622431

>> No.6739782

>>6739774
Now this is really shady. You figure out the numbers first and then you tell people. The vagueness is just a way to dip his toes in and be noncomittal enough to either confuse people or see what he can get away with.

>> No.6739803

"the support I asked for was in the form of donation. That's why this is on Patreon, and not Kickstarter. The reward (such as it is) was to see the project actually followed through with time and quality, and not to be yet another piece of vapourware."

Shithead, that's literally an investment. Calling it a "donation" when its specific purpose is to fund the product's development is some real sneaky shit.

>> No.6739873

>>6739803
>Calling it a "donation" when its specific purpose is to fund the product's development is some real sneaky shit
yeah, it is. it's amazing to read through the comments on that post and the plebbit discussion about it (plebbit.com/r/SegaSaturn/comments/icpcte/changes_to_satiator_pricing_for_patreon/) because so many people are totally fine with what he is doing. They are even policing the detractors. People who are calling him out are being met with "you were promised nothing for your support!" type replies.

>> No.6739905

>>6739873
Its so annoying. Like there's no such thing as intentional misleading. Its not like Abrasive was rushing to make a post that said "just so you know I'm promising nothing in return. You donate to fund the product and if you want it you're expected to pay full price." He'd never have done that because he'd have no patrons then. The whole operation was based on him intentionally allowing people to mistakenly think they were going to get a real discount on the thing they were paying to develop.

>> No.6739992

>>6739905
>The whole operation was based on him intentionally allowing people to mistakenly think they were going to get a real discount on the thing they were paying to develop
On top of that, people had good reason to assume it would not be priced at the top of the market. His entire R&D phase was funded even though he was working on it in his spare time as a hobby. This is why even his diehard supporters were shocked at the price announcement.

I could be mistaken, but I do remember him saying that supporters would be able to buy the product at a discounted rate when it released. Nobody would have expected that the discount would be 6% on a product that was more expensive than anything else on the market.

He really played it beautifully when you think about it. He milked his Patreon supporters and then switched gears to "product launch" mode right as that began to dry up. Launching *after* the MODE was also beneficial. They can't even keep them stocked at $215 USD, so based on that he knew he could charge even more. My guess is he got wind of new competitors entering the market last year and decided to finally put the work in to finish. As it turned out, his timing was perfect from a profitability standpoint.

>> No.6741718

>>6731571
god it feels good to be an emuchad

>> No.6741741

>>6741718
You're an emu? No wonder you don't need a satiator, you don't have hands.

>> No.6741939

>>6735415
I really don't know why people are upset - this guy sold Game Boy flash carts (great ones tbf) for $100 while $20 - $40 options were already flooding the market. How they didn't anticipate paying a premium for this Satiator product is beyond me.

>> No.6741960

>>6741939
Was said gameboy flash cart funded throught patreon? I think most complaints stem from the fact that the development costs being crowdsourced would bring the final price of the unit down.

Personally, I don't really care if he charges a premium for the product, but he should be offering a heavy discount to patreon users, if not selling it at cost to those that have donated a large sum of money.

>> No.6741996

>>6741960
Unless he specified how discounts for the Satiator would work up front, wishful thinking is NO reason to throw money at somebody monthly via Patreon. At any rate, the target audience for this product is super niche older enthusiasts, certainly old enough to hold down a solid job - it makes more sense to me to produce a premium product for a premium price. I personally don't give a shit about the Sega Saturn, but after reading through the Patreon comments to his price-controversy response where everyone seems OK with the high price point... this post seems more like manufactured e-drama than an actual issue Patreons have. I have no doubt the initial run will sell out and the subsequent run of 1000 will sell out, and it wouldn't matter if he sold them for $150 or $400.

>> No.6742059

>>6741996
The way the patreon was framed it was implied and he happily collected money from people for years while he knew or should have known they expected those contributions to tally toward the product cost. This "he never SPECIFICALLY said X" attitude is retarded. Scam artists operate like that.

>> No.6744220

>>6739992
>please invest in my product
Sounds reasonable.
>please donate to my business
Not a lot of people would go for that, but he obfuscated things wonderfully.