Sound Quality

[Anonymous No.6730064]

Is this the best possible sound quality for retro games? Emulating a game/console so that the digital sound files are converted by an external DAC, which then feeds into a sound system?
>(Emulation is a sin, I know)
>I am using a Schiit Modi 3 DAC, but the general idea remains for any higher-end DAC and sound system components
>Emulator---->DAC---->Pioneer VSX 42 Elite receiver--->old Technics speakers

What is your current sound set-up? Do you care? Does it matter?

[Anonymous No.6730074]

no i just use headphones or the speaker built into my laptop

[Anonymous No.6730078]

>>6730074
Soul.

[Anonymous No.6730081]

>>6730064
Lol nice shit tv

[Anonymous No.6730086]

>>6730081
I couldn't get the focus on the phone to work. And yes, it's a $150 Walmart Black Friday special.

[Anonymous No.6730135]

I just use a run of the mill AV receiver with floor standing Sony speakers. Good enough for me.

[Anonymous No.6730236]

>>6730064
>Overkill bajillion $ sound system
>80$ no brand tv
What, why?

[Anonymous No.6730392]

>>6730236
that sound system is cheap as hell anon

[Anonymous No.6730421]

>>6730064
i just use some $150 bose monitors i got for free and av to headphone adapter

sounds fine
and goes plenty loud enough


i also use for record playback and never have had a single complaint
modularity is peak battlestation kino

[Anonymous No.6730438]

>>6730064
built in 3DS speakers, some cheap headphones from Best Buy if it’s got a nice soundtrack
t. music producer audio is a joke

[Anonymous No.6730447]

>>6730064
Sound is usually the weakest element of emulation and can't even get simple consoles like the Genesis right which is why there is often such a disparity between emulation and real hardware recordings of game audio.

If you're trying to get the best sound from your classic games, the first mistake is emulating. That said, people do not put enough care into the sound of their games, only the visuals. Good audio elevates games like nothing else.

[Anonymous No.6730449]

>>6730447
>he thinks emulators in 2020 still sound like 1999 zsnes
Way to out yourself as a retard

[Anonymous No.6730454]

>>6730449
>emulators
>improving past 1999
the focus became mobile platforms, not platforms with power to spare. It has been this way for some time. Emulators still don't get audio right.

[Anonymous No.6730464]

>>6730454
>Emulators still don't get audio right.
That's a nice unfounded generalization you're making there.

[Anonymous No.6730468]

>>6730464
Will you prove they do?

[Anonymous No.6730475]

>>6730468
Give genesisplusgx a try and tell me it doesn't sound like a real genesis.
Oh wait yeah you're just shitposting and probably haven't touched an emulator in the last 20 years

[Anonymous No.6730487]

>>6730475
Demonstrate it. I'm not interested in downloading anything.

[Anonymous No.6730490]

>>6730464
found the poorfag


emulation is hot garbage &
any actual gamer wont do this

[Anonymous No.6730494]

>>6730487
I would be willing to record something but since webm's here can't have any audio I don't really feel like it.
>>6730490
>Taking pride in hoarding useless plastic instead of data

[Anonymous No.6730496]

>>6730494
Post a youtube comparison.

[Anonymous No.6730516]

>>6730496
https://streamable.com/gywq3k

[Anonymous No.6730521]

>>6730516
The audio bitrate I sed there wasn't great so yeah it doesn't sound as good in the video but still sounds fairly accurate

[Anonymous No.6730524]

>>6730516
Too harsh.

[Anonymous No.6730525]

>>6730524
compression

[Anonymous No.6730527]

Genesis with good headphones

[Anonymous No.6730558]

>>6730064
Of course not. Emulation of some sound chips is terrible and often made even worse by retarded autistic cope of trying to solve the problems using the wrong methods/tools.
Shitty big speakers are also a bad idea. While they may give you that authentic shitty compensating-for-a-small-penis sound it's still shitty sound.
All in all, your setup is pretty cringe.

[Anonymous No.6730718]

>>6730064
>>I am using a Schiit Modi 3 DAC, but the general idea remains for any higher-end DAC and sound system components
>>Emulator---->DAC---->Pioneer VSX 42 Elite receiver--->old Technics speakers

overkill. best quality environmental sounds for /vr/ was made for Soundblaster's EAX-compliant shit. AFAIK that can still be done with software but the quality is buggy from my experience.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_Audio_Extensions#EAX_2.0
PC mustard rice. that or music programmed for Roland's MT32.

for consolefagging, well older /vr/ consoles didn't even have stereo sound. i doubt any of those were made for large monitor speakers in mind anyway.

for arcades, QSound games were the best shit. might be imitable in emus, but you'll need stereo speakers that are real close to the screen and in your face(like in arcade cabs) for them to work correctly.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QSound#Selected_games_using_QSound

[Anonymous No.6730728]

>>6730524
>>6730525
>>6730496
original Genesis sound clips are compressed too. problem is online site also add extra compression to them when you upload them.

you can at least find better quality music from Sega-CD and PC-Engine CD games.

[Anonymous No.6731930]

>>6730558
So what is your idea of "best" sound for retro consoles? Small speakers, 2.1 channel, only stereo...? Serious question.
And what about Dolby surround on certain N64 games which supported it? Like DK 64, for example, it supported/offered Dolby Digital surround in the sound settings. Would I plug the Left and Right audio cables into a Dolby Digital capable receiver and output to 5.1 channels? (image related)
idgaf about the set up, I spent next to nothing for everything you see; the DAC was the only think I bought new.

>>6730718
Same for you, what is your suggestion for "best" sound from a retro console?

[Anonymous No.6731937]

>>6731930
Why the fuck would you do 2.1 for retro games?

[Anonymous No.6731942]

>>6731937
........i'm asking you?

[Anonymous No.6731956]

>>6730064
All that effort with such shitty speakers. OP you’re doing yourself a disservice, that’s like putting swap meet re-treads on a Lamborghini.

[Anonymous No.6732042]

>>6730064
Hey man cool setup. Id love to listen to some records in your place.

Im an audio engineer, though not a great one. I make my money doing cleanup and post production for rappers and podcasters and things like that. Self taught so i never went to college for it, so theres some scientific info that i just dont have.

That said... how the heck could a DAC and big speakers matter for 8 and 16 bit systems? There just isn't more information there to preserve and transmit, like there would be for vinyl or flac. I could believe that the tambre could be improved and an overall more enjoyable experience, but like... those video game soundtracks released on vinyl confuses the fuck out of me, you know?

Is there something im overlooking? Help an anon understand

[Anonymous No.6732089]

Some systems, I know SNES, n64 and PS1 at least, did dolby pro logic for some games. So having a receiver that can do pro logic i or ii matrix decoding with a 5.1 system is probably the best way to experience those games.

[Anonymous No.6732096]

>>6732042
About the videogame vinyls, a lot of them dont make sense, but some of them like the streets of rage 2, or pretty much any of the 5th and 6th gen records are just uncompressed remastered versions of the originals. Like vib ribbon and katamari damacy sound a lot nicer and clearer than they did on the cd releases just because those were more straight rips from the game with no remastering. I cant really say I understand getting something like contra 1 but it makes sense for a number of different games. Would post my setup, but not near my desktop right now and my phone camera kind of sucks, maybe ill post it later.

[Anonymous No.6732097]

>>6731942
You have some googling ahead of you before I’ll humor you then

[Anonymous No.6732104]

>>6732096
>with no remastering
Guess again, they definitely “remastered” it if they released it on vinyl.

[Anonymous No.6732115]

>>6732104
Please reread it, I was talking about how they usually didn't remaster for the cd release but did for the vinyl release.

[Anonymous No.6732243]

>>6732096
oh 100% true man, anything coming out of a Saturn/n64/PSX would be potentially improved greatly by the process you've described. Arguably even things like DOS Soundblaster games could be re-tooled in this way, to amazing effect.

A "re-mastering" of 8-bit chipmusic could absolutely subjectively improve things, as well - separating channels, adding saturation and EQ, then re-combining with whatever juice you want, compression and subtle reverb... there's definitely a formula to be discovered there, which people would enjoy.

Coming out of the system dry though, with gear made before say 1995... what exactly are we doing, ya know?

Plugging my NES into a hifi kicks ass compared to TV speakers, just because the bass exists and there's less noise. A fuckin DAC though.... maybe theres something I dont understand?

in b4 reddit spacing

[Anonymous No.6732257]

>>6732115
You’re right I did misread it but you’re a sillynigger if you think it didn’t make a trip to the mastering lab before either physical release.

[Anonymous No.6732269]

>>6732243
>doesn’t understand the difference between mixing and mastering
When you’re mastering, you just have the “mixed down” track, you don’t have tracks to separate and recombine.

[Anonymous No.6732341]

>>6732269
i literally do both for a living you pedantic nerd

[Anonymous No.6732356]

>>6732257
I'm really not sure, like I'm sure it got "mastered" but not very properly, especially on the katamari damacy cd, it's incredibly compressed for no reason and just doesnt sound great when played back through anything. I like the idea of vinyls if only for the tracks to get a second more thorough passthrough.
And just to reiterate with Streets of rage 2 the megadrive/genesis had multiple revisions with different sound so it's nice to have a definitive sound for sor2
>>6732243
The only thing about plugging a NES or any pre 5th gen system into hifi is possibly just wanting to bypass the tv, like maybe if the crt or other tv has genuinely bad speakers I guess it makes sense but overall its not really necessary outside of maybe some special cases.

[Anonymous No.6732368]

>>6732341
You sure don’t sound like it :^)

[Anonymous No.6732373]

>>6730064
>paying for fancy speakers for bleep bloop bop music
lmao at your life right now, fucking dork

[Anonymous No.6732382]

>>6731937
Personally I have a 2.1 setup for general use, so if I’m playing retro shit I just use the same speakers

[Anonymous No.6732384]

>>6732382
2.1 is for movies/tv so that’s fine

[Anonymous No.6732461]

>>6731930
The "best" is going to be something that gives you an accurate and clear sound. That rules out emulation and shitty speakers. Small speakers are fine and people have been making amazingly awesome ones since the early 90's. 2.1 is fine for Anything that doesn't use surround but it would be literally retarded not to just hook it up to your 5/7/9.1 system. That preferably isn't made of cheap old retarded shit. If it is and you paid nothing for it and have low standards that's cool but it's not by any means "the best" Personally I use an old 7.1 JBL system that cost me a bit over a grand. Sound quality is great and the speaker are tiny and integrated into the ceiling molding along with the lighting. You wouldn't even know they're there until they made some noise and you tried to work out where it was coming from. My consoles are also in cabinets with doors and I have no anime figurines or Mario posters on the walls. Weird huh?

[Anonymous No.6732465]

>>6732461
Got any pics?

[Anonymous No.6732467]

>>6732461
>pretends to be an audiophile
>spent barely 4 figures on a 7.1 setup
You have retard ears m8

[Anonymous No.6732631]

>>6732461
>>6732467
You golden ear faggots are the worst.

[Anonymous No.6733275]

>>6732373
yes, because I only use the speakers for vidya gaymes.
>No movie watching, no CD listening, no Netflix or Crave streaming, no music streaming, etc. because that would make too much sense for a HTPC.

[Anonymous No.6733293]

>>6732461
In my original post, I didn't mean to imply my exact system is the "best", but only the idea: emulation sound fed through [really-high-end-DAC], fed into [really-high-end-receiver or amp], finally fed into [really-high-end-speakers].
Again, it was just a question of (given all the best available equipment), would this generate the "best" sound, given we are using a raw digital sound file?

[Anonymous No.6733424]

Just about anything is better than built-in, but some decently sized bookshelf 2/3-ways and a sub are more than enough.

[Anonymous No.6734749]

>>6732465
Can take some if you want. The whole point is everything is hidden so it just looks like a normal room.

>>6732467
>gets mad because poorfag with shitty sound system
>strawmans and seethes
You have retard between the ears m8

>>6732631
Keep seething faggot

>>6733293
There's not much more to say on that subject without getting into technical details that will cause all the aspies to start larping as audio engineers. Simulating analog sound on a PC will never give you the "best" sound. It might give you a sound that you like better but it's different not better. Just like how if you prefer fried chicken to steak that doesn't magically make a bucket of KFC the best steak in town.
For systems that have digital sound digital is the best way to go. But unless you're using original hardware you're relying on emulation which can at best be as good as original hardware. Unless emufags came come up with some sort of cope for how emulators have better sound, like maybe audio runahead or something. lmao.

[Anonymous No.6734758]

>>6734749
I'd appreciate the look, my current setup is all out in the open what with apartment living, but I'm curious what a true sound setup is like.

[Anonymous No.6734767]

>>6734749
No I have a nice sound system lmao seethe harder dilettante nigger

[Anonymous No.6735375]

>>6734758
Will take some pics when I get home

>>6734767
>I have a nice sound system larp
FTFY

[Anonymous No.6735408]

lm1875 gainclone amp into some JBL speakers I got for only $25
I kinda wish I had a remote for the volume though lol

[Anonymous No.6735721]

there's the opportunity for upgrades with things like sd2snes that allow music upgrades. video game sound/music opinions are more variable that "soul composite vs soulless rgb" debates. I'm look to so an s-video upgrade on my atari 7800 and half the complaints are how the board hijacks the audio and it makes it too clean, i.e., hot shit.

Following the 80/20 rule, just plugging in your audio into shelf system that's not garbage is going to be a massive in improvement.

[Anonymous No.6737469]

>>6730438
YOU are whats wrong with the music industry today. Neck yourself, faggot
t. Audio engineer

[Anonymous No.6737514]

>>6730064
You're supposed to buy a television that's a few years or decades older than the game console you're using, hook it up to the best outputs that the TV has, and run the audio through the speaker on the TV. It's not supposed to be a faux-theatrical experience, it's supposed to be enjoyable even on a crappy 8" Sylvania CRT.

[Anonymous No.6737601]

>>6737514
vaccuum your carpet bro

[Anonymous No.6737610]

>>6732461
>an accurate and clear sound.
oxymoron. old hardware had imperfect analog sound output that was prone to distortions.
e.g. original SNES hardware outputs audio at 32 000 Hz. Lower than redbook CD audio.

[Anonymous No.6737616]

>>6737469
>>6730438
>built in 3DS speakers
Virtual surround sound on NDS and 3DS games were amazing. But those aren't /vr/.

[Anonymous No.6737627]

>>6731930
>Same for you, what is your suggestion for "best" sound from a retro console?
most accurate? play with flashcarts and output the sound to shitty old CRT TV's tiny speakers. THE WAY IS MEANT TO BE PRAYED!!!

least distortion? mod your console to output digital HDMI audio, then use whatever audiophile DAC and monitor speakers you want.

[Anonymous No.6737630]

>>6730074
Umm.. based?

[Anonymous No.6737640]

>>6732243
>A fuckin DAC though.... maybe theres something I dont understand?
If you have digital audio output it can be improved.
SNES can for example be modded for Digital Audio output.
NES and Genesis are a different story though since they used analog components(which is partially why it's so hard to get the sound right for those systems)

[Anonymous No.6737668]

>>6737514
Fucking cringe.
Just fuck off with your boomer larp.

[Anonymous No.6737674]

>>6737627
>output the sound to shitty old CRT TV's tiny speakers. THE WAY IS MEANT TO BE PRAYED!!!
Said nobody ever.
Vidya composers actually wanted people to hear their music in some decent speakers at least.
Off the top of my head Hiroki Kikuta said that Seiken Densetsu 3 has some really good bass which you'll be able to hear with speakers with good bass response in a developer interview at the time.

[Anonymous No.6737695]

>>6730064
Pretty good for an emulation setup, but personally I'd use a crt. Widescreen hd crt if you wanted to play newer non /vr/ stuff.

[Anonymous No.6737704]

>>6737514
Much better setup than OP.

[Anonymous No.6737731]

>>6730064
On what you have, yes that seems pretty optimal.

Also:
-Use optical/toslink from your PC to your DAC for less possible. fuckery.
-Make sure to bit/sample rate match your content, if your emulator is 44k &16bit make sure windows sound options are set to the same. Don't jack it up to 192k 24bit like an idiot and think that will give you a better sound, 99.9% of media content never goes past 48k 24bit and most certainly not 8/16/32 bit retro games.
-Then make sure your DAC is set to the same sample rate as well and not oversampling.
-Check if your emulator supports exclusive or ASIO mode, this will take your sound out of the windows mixer cluster fuck and straight into your DAC with no loss. This can also help reduce input lag.

Why is "bit perfect" important? Think of it the same way as pixel scaling, you want to keep it 1:1 or else you lose fidelity and introduce a lot of artifacts. In audio this makes the sound lose impact, firmness and fidelity, even when using SRC filter processes.

I use my Hi-def moded NES, Super NT and Mega SG into my TV via HDMI set to bitstream (ensures 1:1 bit perfect pass-through) and from there optical out into my RME ADI-2 DAC hooked up to my studio monitors and/or head phones. This gives me crystal clear non-colored 1:1 audio from the consoles straight into the one and only analog stage, it's as good as it gets and it's pretty good lol.

As for the OG consoles they have pretty noisy DACs (seriously shit by most standards) and electronics, hi-fi grade cables won't make it any better and probably worse as they'll be more revealing. So low-tier stereos are probably a better and more sensible choice here if you just want more volume and body in the audio, don't sweat it, less is more.

[Swift S. Lawliet !!VIQsbxF6xwO No.6738237]

>>6730064
I have a 15.2 Dolby Atmos/IMAX DTS:X/Auro-3D setup that outputs audio for both my 88" 8K OLED TV and my D32E1WU BVM CRT.
And I use a top-tier Dolby Surround processor (a Shure HTS-5300) from the '80s for Dolby Surround content (not Pro Logic II content, which is decoded by the preamp itself).

I use real hardware most of the time so it goes:
Real hardware --> gscartsw/gcompsw --> Marantz 15.2 XLR pre-amp --> Marantz and Classé Delta XLR amps --> Polk Legend speaker setup
For mono, stereo and Dolby Pro Logic II consoles.

As for Dolby Surround consoles like the N64 and PS1, it goes:
Real hardware --> gscartsw/gcompsw --> Parasound JC 2 BP --> Shure HTS-5300 --> Marantz 15.2 XLR pre-amp --> Marantz and Classé Delta XLR amps --> Polk Legend speaker setup
I also have a Hi-Res DAC for Dolby Surround LaserDiscs to the Parasound JC 2 BP and into the Shure HTS-5300.

Depending on the game, I output my retro game audio in mono, stereo, Dolby Surround 5.2 or Dolby Surround Atmos 9.2.

[Anonymous No.6738324]

>>6738237
Why bother with the pre-amp?

[Anonymous No.6738342]

>>6738237
Oh look, the "audiocuck" anon forgot to take their trip off.

[Swift S. Lawliet !!VIQsbxF6xwO No.6738343]

>>6738324
For balanced XLR audio.

>>6738342
Who is this audiocuck?
Never heard of him.

[Anonymous No.6738353]

>>6738343
>Who is this audiocuck?
Shows up in every battlestation thread saying people without huge speakers are audiocucked.

[Anonymous No.6738548]

>>6737674
>african bass
any 2.1 speakers will do then.

[Anonymous No.6738573]

>>6738237
>88" 8K OLED TV
i didn't even realise those exist now. screenshot it with CRT filters!

[Anonymous No.6739025]

>>6737610
Hey Oxy. Did you know the SNES outputs 100% digital sound internally that's converted to analog with a standard off the shelf DAC? e.g. the exact opposite of "old hardware had imperfect analog sound output that was prone to distortions" as you claim. Pretty epic fail lad.
There's no such thing as "imperfect analog sound" when you're using original hardware. The sound original hardware outputs is exactly how it should sound. If it doesn't sound like your emulator then your emulator is inaccurate.

[Anonymous No.6739304]

>>6739025
>SNES outputs 100% digital sound internally
that's what most audio devices do. wow, ur so smart!
>converted to analog
yes it's analog like i said. digital output like HDMI wasn't invented yet. dumbass. fucking ESLs.
>buy only original hardware! it's puuuurfect!!!
thanks metaljebusroks.

[Anonymous No.6739313]

>>6730064
>giant fucking desktop pc attached to TV

Might as well scream "I HAVE AUTISM"

[Anonymous No.6739339]

>>6739313
Hey, I'm doing that since consumer graphic cards had some form of TV-out

[Anonymous No.6739393]

>monsters
Nice.

[Anonymous No.6739397]

>>6739313
As opposed to what? A giant set top box which is the same thing inside?

[Anonymous No.6739550]

>>6738343
>For balanced XLR audio
That seems kinda pointless

[Anonymous No.6739806]

>>6739304
>that's what most audio devices do.
Looks like you're on the wrong board kiddo. /vr/ is for discussing old games not "audio devices". And most of those old game systems didn't output digital internally they output analog directly from the sound chip.
>like i said
No, it's exactly the opposite of what you said which was:
>old hardware had imperfect analog sound output that was prone to distortions.
>e.g. original SNES hardware outputs audio at 32 000 Hz.
I'm not sure if you're just coping or actually so retarded you don't understand the words you're using
>digital output like HDMI wasn't invented yet. dumbass.
Top kek kid. Digital audio has been around in consumer products since the early 80's. Unfortunately you've only been around since the early 00s so you're completely clueless of this fact.
And on that note, 18+. Back to le tiktok.

[Anonymous No.6740006]

>>6737514
That looks like shit. Are you using fucking composite cables?

[Anonymous No.6740018]

>>6740006
The Composite Chad vs the virgin YPbPr.

[Anonymous No.6740027]

>>6740018
Shut the fuck up retard. 6th gen absolutely need component to not look like shit.
Also imagine limiting yourself to 480i like a fucking monkey.

Also for OP, I made a cheap mixing setup. Wii handles all my 240p games.

[Anonymous No.6740034]

>>6740027
I don't care if you want to be a faggot and spend hundreds of dollars on cables and mixers and homo shit. But don't be a fucking nigger and call out people for enjoying games with composite.

[Anonymous No.6740037]

>>6740034
>noooooooooooooo don't make fun of my poor choices

[Anonymous No.6740079]

>>6740037
>spend hundreds of dollars on cables
>criticize other people for making "poor choices"
lol

[Anonymous No.6740102]

>>6740079
>hundreds
>buying retro shit during corona

[Anonymous No.6740164]

>>6740102
>buying retro shit at all

[Anonymous No.6740167]

>>6740164
shut up retard

[Anonymous No.6740180]

>>6740167
>s-shut up retard

[Anonymous No.6740789]

>ywn experience the glorious (((SOUL))) of pic related

[Anonymous No.6740838]

>>6740789
Oh, but I did.

[Anonymous No.6740841]

>>6740027
Excessive

[Anonymous No.6741383]

>>6738548
SD3 was one of the few SFC games that offered Surround Sound(4.0 Surround).

[Anonymous No.6741576]

>>6741383
>SD3
There's a Super Donkey Kong 3?

[Anonymous No.6741590]

>>6739806
>>e.g. original SNES hardware outputs audio at 32 000 Hz.
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPC700
yes.
>Translated: The output signal is generated as 16 bit stereo with a sampling rate of 32 kHz.
shitposters gotta shit.

[Anonymous No.6741867]

>>6741590
All of which directly contradicts your claim
>old hardware had imperfect analog sound output that was prone to distortions. No amount of cope is going to make your ignorance fueled bullshit true kiddo. Not even sure why you're still trying at this point. It's the tism isn't it?

[Anonymous No.6743125]

pixeljunk monsters has a pc port so why would you emulate it?

[Anonymous No.6743136]

>>6730064
I have a better setup. Stax SR-404 LE and AKG K1000, DBX BX3 Mk.2 amp, Teac UD501 DAC, and a Viewsonic PT813 VGA CRT Monitor or my JVC D36501 CRT. Or if I’m feeling like playing on a flat panel I’ll use my LG B6 TV with Focal Bookshelves.

[Anonymous No.6743147]

Imagine using dynamic bookshelves when you can use Electrostatic Earspeakers and get infinitely better sound for cheaper. Speakers are a waste of time unless they’re planars or estats.

[Anonymous No.6743878]

>>6739313
>Giant
It's the same size as the Xbox next to it.... ??
I paid $7.99 CAD, from Value Village, and use it as a HTPC. It's perfect: enough power to stream Netflix, Crave, Spotify, etc. With the 2gb GT 1030 I have in it, I am able to emulate Gamecube, PSP, PS1, N64, etc. - anything I really want to play.

I don't have cable tv, so I use the computer as my "tv" source to watch whatever program or play a game.

[Anonymous No.6743883]

>>6739393
I absolutely fell in love with Pixel Junk years back; I find the PSP version is my favourite. The flash didn't work in the picture, but the game looks great. Amazing sound track, too.

[Anonymous No.6743892]

>>6743125
Because the PSP version is free to emulate?... I have never looked into the PC version.

it's a fairly low powered system: Core2-Quad, 8GB RAM, 2GB GT 1030, 120 GB SSD, and whatever the stock mobo is. So, I've never looked for the PC version, just some light emulation and streaming.