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loooool

>> No.6727149
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>> No.6727150

That's a shame. They're a good team.

>> No.6727162

Why would anyone do this?
It's a shame.

>> No.6727169

realistically, shouldn't they have been able to backup most of the source code for the major cores and the base emulator on a single 1TB HDD?
I know with version control the size can inflate dramatically but even so.

>> No.6727170

>>6727142
Serves them right for causing millions of dollars of financial losses to Nintendo. If you love gaming you will hate these pirates.

>> No.6727172

>>6727170
this but unironically

>> No.6727178

>>6727162
RA team has made a LOT of enemies throughout the years.

>> No.6727180

>>6727178
well yeah it could easily be one of the chink manufacturers that got called out for using their software for profit.
>>6727142
reading the article on their site they have a full backup from only a few months ago and can probably source a more updated set from github and users.

They're capitalizing on the situation by telling people to paypig them on patreon to fund a new server so they'll probably end up better off post-hack than when they started.

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>>6727142
I say they deleted it themselves to ask for money

>> No.6727187

>>6727170
yeah, if retroarch did not exist i would have certainly bought ocarina of time n64 digitally on the switch eshop. such lost sales.

>> No.6727210

>>6727169
hahaha yeah what the fuck, if they didn't have backups they were just asking to lose data

>> No.6727214

>>6727150
Joke? They're the most hated bunch of assholes in the retro scene. The MAME devs even come a distant second.

>> No.6727218

>>6727214
>the most hated bunch
[by whom?]

>> No.6727232

>>6727218
By everyone. Users, non-users, emulator devs, hardware devs...

>> No.6727237

>>6727232
I'm a user and I don't hate them. Hence, your argument is invalid.

>> No.6727238

>>6727237
>sample size of 1
Cool.

>> No.6727240

>>6727238
Sample size of any quantity directly contradicts your assertions.

>> No.6727252

>>6727240
>"Retroarch team are the most hated team in the retro world by far"
>1 person doesn't hate them
>"disproved"
Get out of here troll

>> No.6727258

>>6727214
i know that the libretro folks have occasionally outshadowed the original developers of a project (usually when they tried to implement some scammy stuff, like the reicast and fbalpha guys going closed source), but who the fuck would ever hate on fucking mame? for what reason?

>> No.6727259

>>6727252
It's not my problem you don't know what everyone means. Your propensity to backtrack your statements puts your entire credibility in question.

>> No.6727269

>>6727210
Of course they have copies on the machine they use to develop the programs, do you not know anything about git? The problem is no one can trust the code hosted on these hacked repos anymore, at least not until they get on top of this situation.

>> No.6727274

>>6727269
Are you perchance retarded? The hosted code is open source, how can you not trust it?

>> No.6727281

>>6727274
Because they might have been tampered with? How is this notobvious to you?

>> No.6727284

>>6727281
Because you'd see tampering for yourself?

>> No.6727286

>>6727284
How are you so sure of that?

>> No.6727290

>>6727286
Because_the_code_is_open_source

>> No.6727291

>>6727218
Trannies and faggots mostly

>> No.6727297

>>6727290
You have got to be the worst case of dunning kruger I've ever had the displeasure of talking to, just because it's open source doesn't mean you should blindly trust it, do you realize how easy it is to slip a malicious piece of code into a nontrivial codebase like retroarch? If you're so sure of your retarded assertion why don't you clone the hacked repo, compile it and report back the result?

>> No.6727307

>>6727297
>do you realize how easy it is to slip a malicious piece of code into a nontrivial codebase like retroarch?
That would be pretty hard considering they have a month old backup of the entire repo
>You have got to be the worst case of dunning kruger I've ever had the displeasure of talking to
back to you sweetie

>> No.6727312

>>6727307
I'll be waiting for that report, I mean what's the worst that could happen from running code sourced from a hacked repo? It's open source after all!

>> No.6727317

>>6727312
I'm sure nothing bad will happen, nothing these hackers do will slip through the ever watchful eyes of the Anonymous after all.

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>>6727317
I fucking physically cringed at this post even if you were being ironic about it.

>> No.6727343
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6727343

Shut it down.

>> No.6727351

>>6727342
You better not read up the entire post chain then, some fucking moron actually believed it.

>> No.6727365

Just emulate bro

>> No.6727368

>>6727312
> the worst that could happen from running code sourced from a hacked repo
Not much lol

>> No.6727374

>>6727142
>>6727149
For what purpose?

>> No.6727380

>>6727374
Envy

>> No.6727382

>>6727380
Envy of what?
Success?
Is that why there are so many anti RA posts here?

>> No.6727389

>>6727382
>Success?
yes
>Is that why there are so many anti RA posts here?
no, those are merely brainlets who couldn't configure it

>> No.6727390

>>6727142
What does this mean?

Will I now be able to load romhacks properly?

>> No.6727393

>>6727389
I still don’t get the purpose of it
To hinder them? Or were they hoping to get some personal info of the developer, I heard he hurt some peoples feelings

>> No.6727394

>>6727142
But it is not a big deal since they should have a backup, right?

>> No.6727395

>>6727393
To cause the most damage to the project possible, obviously

>> No.6727409

>We were hacked
doubt.jpg
Probably some doofus let slip password hints in a Discord somewhere and someone guessed correctly.

>> No.6727424

And nothing of value was lost.

>> No.6727438

>>6727149
this is a scam dont give them any shekels

>> No.6727441

>>6727438
>>6727424
>>6727409
3 coins were deposited into your nintendo account

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>>6727142
Alright, you got me

>> No.6727447

>>6727441
they dont need 1300 to keep their shit backed up

>> No.6727448

>>6727382
Anti Retroarch posts are made by people who installed it one time and got mad when clicking things with their mouse didn't work.

>> No.6727451

>>6727447
they had it backed up though

>> No.6727462

>>6727451
so theyre begging for more for no reason

>> No.6727464
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>>6727142
The god emperor's wrath has finally descended upon the heretic and heathens!

Praise to the lord, the almighty, the king of creation, the remodeler of emulation tranny assholes!

>> No.6727468

>>6727462
for no reason other that having financial means to continue development

>> No.6727475

>>6727297
>just because it's open source doesn't mean you should blindly trust it
That's why the code is in the open so you can read it yourself. Are you brain damaged?

>> No.6727476

>>6727468
they dont need it im sure they even deleted the repo themselves just to try and get more money

>> No.6727479

>>6727476
sounds pretty based to me

>> No.6727480

These code stealing fucks can get fucked

>> No.6727481

>>6727142
>>6727149
They are just scammers begging for money.

>> No.6727483

>>6727480
Which code did they steal?
Aren’t most emulators open source?

>> No.6727484

>>6727481
>>6727480
t. salty incel who hacked them

>> No.6727491

>>6727475
Why would anyone waste their life proving that no malicious code was slipped into the repo instead of just waiting for the backups?

>> No.6727497

>>6727491
Why would you want to wait for the backups? You don't have retroarch installed?

>> No.6727505

>>6727483

No. And even if something is open sourced, you have to give credit if you use the code.

One of their main devs, a russkie, stole code from an emulator developed by a Ukrainian. Later he said something like “your shithole country shouldn’t fuck with superpowers” as justification. (Superpower referring to Russia (lol) and “fucking with” means not giving Crimea to Russia willingly)

>> No.6727507

>>6727505
>One of their main devs, a russkie
Who are you referring to?

>> No.6727508

>>6727497
I don't even use retroarch anymore, I'm jist trying to understand the mind of someone who's trying to tell me that running code off of a hacked repo is a-okay just because it's open source.

>> No.6727509

>>6727142
Their problem, not mine.

Save early, save often
— Al Lowe

>> No.6727510

>>6727508
It is okay though. The commits are all in plain view.

>> No.6727512

>>6727475
Do you read every line of code in every piece of open source software you download before you use it?

>> No.6727513

>>6727510
What if you can fake one of the commit by exploiting the old hash algorithm git used to use?
https://lwn.net/Articles/811068/

>> No.6727514

>>6727507
TwinAphex

>> No.6727515

>>6727514
Twinaphex is Russian? Got any source for that?

>> No.6727516

>>6727513
Now you're just arguing for the sake of arguing. What if everything you see is an illusion conjured by space aliens and you're actually being exploited in a human farm?

>> No.6727518

>>6727516
Nah, you just can't handle being wrong like the /v/ermin manchild you are, I thought it's just common sense to avoid running any untrusted code but you idiots never fail to amaze me.

>> No.6727525

>>6727518
Version control is exactly why your argument holds no ground.

>> No.6727526

>>6727515

Feel free to read the whole drama


https://retroarchleaks.wordpress.com/2019/06/02/mame-libretro-reicast-drama/

>> No.6727528

>>6727525
How so?

>> No.6727529

>>6727526
I skimmed through it already and found no evidence of Twinaphex's country of origin. May you be so kind to pinpoint it?

>> No.6727531

>>6727528
Because >>6727510

>> No.6727535

>>6727526
What a dick. I'm glad retroarch got hacked.

>> No.6727536

>>6727529

I remember reading somewhere else that he’s Russian and you can clearly see that he has a weird urge to glorify Russia and shit on Ukraine in that thread, why would someone non Russian do that? Even if he was not Russian, it’s clearly retarded autistic behaviour. Why are you so invested in knowing for sure that he’s Russian?

>> No.6727537

>>6727531
Classic /v/ermin arguing tactics right here, just point to your old posts when you're losing the argument. Did you even read the article I linked?

>> No.6727538

>>6727536
I remember reading somewhere that he's French. Your logic of "He badmouthed Ukraine hence he's Russian" doesn't really have any merit.

>> No.6727539

>>6727538
My point is that his nationality doesn’t matter, he stole code and behaved like an asshole. What is your point?

>> No.6727542

>>6727539
I was just curious about his nationality, and having read
>One of their main devs, a russkie, stole code from an emulator developed by a Ukrainian.
I thought you weren't actually making up things. Stealing code is the least of my worries, if something open source is being used for something other that is open source I have no qualms with that.

>> No.6727546

>>6727542

Congratulations, then you’re also an asshole.

>> No.6727548

>>6727537
Of course I read it. You're just peddling a demagogic obscurantism argument of "it might've been tampered with, we just don't know". Unless you have any evidence to back up why their repo has its version history altered, I see no point in holding that argument in any regard.

>> No.6727550

>>6727546
I might be an asshole, but at least I don't make up things on the fly to reinforce my agenda.

>> No.6727551

>>6727546
Is he charging for use of it?

>> No.6727554

>>6727550

I didn’t make up anything, I did read somewhere that he is Russian and that information is perfectly congruent with that site I linked. And his nationality was never my point, so you are not making much sense.

>> No.6727559

>>6727551

Open source does not mean that you can do anything with the code. There is still a license that has to be respected. If the license requires crediting the original author, you cannot just ignore that.

>> No.6727561

>>6727548
I have no interest in proving whether or not the code has been tampered with, all I did was say that nobody can trust the code now that the repo has been hacked before this idiot jumped at me reciting "it's open source so it's a-okay". I posted that article because you seem to be under the impression that git is this unbreakable program that will detect any change made to your code but git is only as good as the hash algorithm it uses, and SHA-1 is no longer good enough now.

>> No.6727567

>>6727554
Oh, you read somewhere. Ok, that changes things.
>>6727559
As a user, everything I'm interested is playing games in best conditions possible, which includes playing the games in retroarch when emulation is concerned. Were some dorks who coded the originals behind cores credited is the least of my concern.

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Get rekt emulets

>> No.6727569

What does this mean, you,can't DL retro arch now? Don't use it

>> No.6727571

>>6727567

You wouldn’t be playing anything if not for those “dorks” coding an emulator for free. Why are you such a little bitch?

>> No.6727573

>>6727561
So, essentially, your argument is because SHA-1 can theoretically be cracked we should disregard any version control on any git repository. It goes beyond reasonable doubt.

>> No.6727579

>>6727571
Oh I would, there are always dorks willing to code an open source emulator. Retroarch siphoning all their endeavors is the policy I can get behind.

>> No.6727581

Lel what a bunch of autists.
Also, they are bad at being clear.
Trying to make sense of what exactly is the problem according to these 'devs' is treacle thick. All I can gather is well, nothing. Just a bunch of crying.

>> No.6727582

>>6727579

Don’t you feel like a piece of shit for insulting people whose work is presumably bringing you enjoyment for free?

>> No.6727586

>>6727582
Of course not. If they're unwilling to have others using their code for free the should go closed source instead of whining like little bitches.

>> No.6727587

>>6727573
I'm tired of your strawman and attempt to keep the argument going just so you can find a chance to be right for once, I'm just gonna bring this back to the original point now, do you or do you not agree that it's a bad idea to run code off of a hacked repo?

>> No.6727589

>>6727582
Stop whiteknighting. No one cares. If you do something for free, dont cry about people not crediting you. If you did it as a labour of love, you shouldnt even care in first place.
In reality, all these special boys arent getting the props and respect they 'deserve'.
Get a real job.

>> No.6727590

>>6727586

Every piece of open source code carries some kind of a license, and the vast majority of those require crediting. If you don’t understand this, you are beyond help.

>> No.6727592

>>6727587
It depends on the circumstances. In this particular case, I'm yet to find any evidence that running the code can be hazardous.

>> No.6727594

>>6727592
Why don't you try it out then?

>> No.6727595

>>6727590
If you cannot understand that the best thing you can do with your licence is shove it up your ass unless there's an effective way of enforcing it then you're the one delusional and beyond help.

>> No.6727596

>>6727589
I’m a software developer. Unlike you, I know that there are rules for using open source code.

>> No.6727597

>>6727594
I don't need to, I have the latest retroarch and ran the core updater yesterday.

>> No.6727601

>>6727595

It can be enforced. If you can prove that a GitHub repo is in breach of a license, GitHub will delete it. This is why RetroArch deva added the correct crediting in that case.

Care to further embarrass yourself in this thread?

>> No.6727602

>>6727596
I dont care about internet drama as I live in the real world.

>> No.6727603

>>6727601
So they actually credited him. So your beef with them is that they haven't done so sooner? Is that it?

>> No.6727604

>>6727597
Nice excuse, you know I'm right and you're too much of a baby to admit you were wrong.

>> No.6727606

>>6727604
Sorry, I'm just telling you what things are.

>> No.6727607

>>6727603

It’s that they tried to get away with it, and only did so under duress.
That is shitty developer behaviour that I am not willing to support.

>> No.6727609

>>6727602

It’s not internet drama. Real life companies get sued for millions of dollars when they don’t credit open source code.

>> No.6727610

>>6727607
You're very form over function, a trait very unbecoming of an alleged software developer.

>> No.6727612

>>6727149
>we have had a stretch goal for a long time for $1300 so we can actually have regular backups - we simply cannot afford this right now on top of the already enormous bills with our current finances
This screams "false flag."

>> No.6727615

>>6727606
Grow up.

>> No.6727616

>>6727610

Try developing commercial software (as I do) in the real world and use open source code without attribution. Let’s see what happens.

>> No.6727617

>>6727615
Ah yes, throwing a tantrum, the last resort of someone backed to a corner.

>> No.6727620

>>6727609
Theres no honour amongst thieves.
If you give that much of a shit, maybe you should use your talents for more reputable endeavours.

>> No.6727625

>>6727616
Both parties in that incident were coders of non-commercial software, why are you suggesting to me trying developing commercial software to see what happens? You're not very concise with your logic I have to admit.

>> No.6727628

>>6727617
That's funny coming from someone who refuses to actually prove that he believes what he's saying.

>> No.6727631

>>6727616
You use it for profit then, that’s completely different

>> No.6727632

>>6727625

You were claiming open source licenses have no real world relevance. I disproved your claim.

>> No.6727636

>>6727631
see
>>6727632

>> No.6727646

>>6727632
I said licences that cannot be legally enforced hold no value, and that is hardly possible to disprove.

>> No.6727647

Nigger is just source code can't you just copy it to your computer just in case
And it's open source anyways, a lot of people already have it in their computers

>> No.6727648

>>6727597
But anon! Maybe the nice hackers fixed a couple bugs in the emulator you use? Wouldn't want to miss out on that would you?

>> No.6727652

>>6727648
I'd love them to, but those repos haven't been updated during the last 24 hours.

>> No.6727657

>>6727646

We could see that these licenses can be legally enforced when used in commercial software (through lawsuits) and when used in free/open source software hosted on GitHub (through threat of removal of the repo).

Therefore I am right, you are wrong, and this debate is over. Cheers

>> No.6727660

>>6727652
You kbow you lost the argumemt when you have to keep coming up with bitch ass excuses.

>> No.6727661

>>6727657
How am I wrong? Can you cite what exactly is wrong, allegedly?

>> No.6727667

They're using GitHub which means that they fucked up on OpSec and also didn't loose shit. At least nothing of value. Nobody care about those year old builds.

>> No.6727668

>>6727632
>>6727636
Nice goal post moving there

>> No.6727670

>>6727660
I'm merely stating the facts. Those repos weren't updated during the last 24 hours. How did hackers fix those bugs if they made no commits?

>> No.6727679

>>6727670
Because you don't have to make new commits to slip in the big fixes, thanks for proving that you didn't actually read the article.

>> No.6727682

>>6727679
Or maybe you did but it was way too technical for your /v/ermin brain.

>> No.6727684

>>6727513
It worked for PDFs because you can stuff a whole lot of crap into a PDF without it being visible. Simple manual inspection of the Git commits will easily detect any hash collision attempts.

>> No.6727686

>>6727679
Argument that because SHA-1 can theoretically be cracked it is exactly what happened here is, erm, how do you call it?
>when you have to keep coming up with bitch ass excuses.
ah yes, this.

>> No.6727695

>>6727686
>because SHA-1 can theoretically be cracked it is exactly what happened here
I'm starting to think that you actually believe these strawmen you keep coming up with. Who said anything like this? All I said was that there is a RISK and it's retarded to take that risk because there is literally nothing to gain by running the code off of a hacked repo.

>> No.6727702

>>6727695
Yes, it is a risk as big as the risk of having your PSU accidentally blow up when using your PC. You'd have to brush up your common sense before issuing advice on risk management.

>> No.6727704

>>6727526
>>6727529
>>6727538
I assume this is the referendum he's referring to in the chatlogs so I would assume he's Dutch

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Dutch_Ukraine%E2%80%93European_Union_Association_Agreement_referendum

>> No.6727709

>>6727702
If it's such an insignificant romisk why do you keep pussying out every time I ask you to prove it?

>> No.6727713

>>6727709
>romisk
Risk*

>> No.6727714

>>6727709
Prove what? Why don't you prove that the open sourced code or git version history has been tampered with? Your allegations lie outside the realm of reasonable doubt so you're the one who should be proving your outrageous claims.

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BIZHAWK WINS AGAIN

>> No.6727717

>>6727714
>Prove what?
Prove that you actually believe that running code off of a hacked repo is okay.
>Why don't you prove that the open sourced code or git version history has been tampered with?
Once again, I never claimed this and I have to point out how retarded it is to think that you need someone to prove to you that the hackers did bad things before you consider them bad guys, do you really believe that they actually hacked into their repos to fix a couple bugs? Are you really this retarded?

>> No.6727718

>>6727715
wins what?

>> No.6727728

>>6727717
>Prove that you actually believe that running code off of a hacked repo is okay.
beliefs of someone is a matter that cannot be proved or disproved, it is of subjective realm
> do you really believe that they actually hacked into their repos to fix a couple bugs? Are you really this retarded?
No, they hacked into the libretro repository to delete most of its contents, and succeeded in doing so for 3 out of 9 pages of individual repos. The notion that they "planted" malicious code in the rest 6 pages without leaving any traces in version history is just ridiculous and if you lack self awareness to realize the outlandish nature of your claims then I cannot help you.

>> No.6727729

>>6727512
No, they don't. They can't read code anyway, otherwise they would know that sometimes it's easy to miss shit.
Also, comparing it to a month old backup wouldn't help at all.
Shit thread.

>> No.6727732

Fuck you retroarch. You force your shit and have ruined all the /vg/ emulation generals by shitting on everybody not using your bullshit which adds bugs over the standard emulator "cores".

>> No.6727737

>>6727728
>beliefs of someone is a matter that cannot be proved or disproved, it is of subjective realm
But you can actually do that, all you have to do is run the code off of the hacked repos but I know that you're just gonna keep pussying out because I'm right and you know it.
>The notion that they "planted" malicious code in the rest 6 pages without leaving any traces in version history is just ridiculous
I already showed you how it's not so ridiculous when the hash algorithm you use is weak but feel free to keep living in your fantasy world of ignorance.

>> No.6727740

>>6727142
What the fuck. Fuck the nigger who did this.

>> No.6727741

>>6727728
>outlandish
It only seems outlandish to you because you're just another dunning kruger afflicted moron, git moved to SHA-256 precisely because it's no longer outlandish.

>> No.6727745

Anyways, Libretto cores are only on GitHub as of now?

>> No.6727747

>>6727737
Not him, but you really need to learn how version control systems, particularly git, actually work. There is literally no way malicious code could have been added to this repo, hacked or not, without leaving both a hash change and a commit history behind. They hacked an individual repo. They didn't hack GitHub.

>> No.6727750

>>6727747
This

>> No.6727753

>>6727747
>>6727750
https://lwn.net/Articles/811068/
>There is literally no way malicious code could have been added to this repo, hacked or not, without leaving both a hash change
But what if you can fool git into thinking that your new commit is an old commit by exploiting hash collision?

>> No.6727756

>>6727753
Good question. What if you could do that? Explain how this would affect any users issuing a git pull and rebuilding the source.

>> No.6727760

>>6727753
That is like saying your Nintendo Switch can download virus just because you bought your games legit. Git can be traced, unless someone from GitHub hacked both buildbot and their source on libretro

>> No.6727767

>>6727753
GitHub isn't Wikipedia, you know, but considering all facts, dunno if stuff will be recovered automatically, it will be a big one man's work

>> No.6727769

Well that's a bit of a dick thing to do.
Wonder what the intent was.

>> No.6727770

>>6727760
>game as a service
>malware
>spyware
>bloatware

shill

>> No.6727771

Hey, does someone has any of the latest Android cores from libretro?

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>>6727142
>He gained access to our Libretro organization on Github impersonating a very trusted member of the team
Sounds like it's their own fault for being retards. Hacker my ass.

>> No.6727773

I can literally hear him beating on Google like it owes him money looking for anything that might help win an argument he didn't know anything about in the first place and lost several posts ago.

>> No.6727774

>>6727756
>>6727760
I'll admit that the odd of this happening is slim and the article I linked even mentioned this but this is all beside the point I was teying to make: it's a bad idea to run code off of a hacked repo, if you actually disagree with this then I can only hope you're not in charge of any important computers.

>> No.6727778

>>6727769
Probably an FPGAutist fed up with RA having less latency on an RPi.

>> No.6727779

>>6727774
Just one thing that I don't get it, if it was so trusted, it gotta be one from their team, right?

>> No.6727780

>>6727774
>i don't actually know what I'm talking about, and i realize that I'm arguing with people that do, but please just let me win

>> No.6727784

>>6727773
Am I the only one here that actually believe it's a bad idea to run code off of a hacked repo? Please tell me I'm not alone here, I know this faggot is butthurt but am I actually alone in believing this?

>> No.6727790

>>6727780
Ironic.

>> No.6727796

>>6727784
In this case? Who knows. In general as an idea, of course it's a bad idea, who knows what someone can put in there, but every RA thread is filled with so much ass-blast by RA fanboys that no one will admit to it.

>> No.6727798

>>6727187
>He doesnt have it on his n64, on his collectors disk for his gamecube, on his wiiu VC and on his 3DS as a resmaster already

>> No.6727801

What is even more weird is that nobody even posted a copy of their offline core libraries, so people can still play, but this hack only affects new users as of now

>> No.6727804

>>6727796
Thank you, this persistent moron almost gaslit me into believing that everyone is as retarded as him.

>> No.6727809

>>6727784
Can you explain why it's a bad idea? Obviously not, or you would have by now.

>> No.6727810

Welp, guess I won't be updating my cores or program version for a while.

>> No.6727813

>>6727809
Malware injections.

>> No.6727816

>>6727804
Protip: this 6727809 fag posts atleast half of all messages in every RA thread

>> No.6727824

It's easy to work out the prime suspects. Just think, who doesn't like the retroarch dev team?
>everyone
oh... lmao

>> No.6727827

>>6727813
I do believe I asked you to explain how that would happen without notice. Do you need me to give you even more time to pound on Google?

>> No.6727829

>>6727813
circumventing github's version control no less?

>> No.6727832

>>6727809
Would you eat a packaged food that is already open when you buy it? Or do you need some laboratory to present you with evidence that it's been tampered before you consider it a bad idea?

>> No.6727834

>>6727832
Nice food analogy. Too bad it doesn't really work here.

>> No.6727836

>>6727832
false analogy, obese retard

>> No.6727838

>>6727827
I already linked an article that explains how it could be done, why do you refuse to educate yourself like this? Do you take pride in being ignorant?

>> No.6727840

>>6727832
>eating packaged food
The majority of actually healthy food does not come packaged.

>> No.6727841

>>6727834
>>6727836
How so? We know someone broke into RA's repo so is it really outlandish to tell people to hold off on updating their shit? Just like you shouldn't risk eating packaged food that someone else already opened.

>> No.6727842

>>6727841
Because there's version control on Github.

>> No.6727843
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6727843

>>6727142
Japan really going for it.
First ROMs then Anime & manga and now Emulators.
What's next?

>> No.6727846

>>6727838
You linked an article that you didn't understand, explaining a theoretical vulnerability that's been known for a number of years now and effectively mitigated before anyone could make any real attempts at pulling it off. Again, can you please explain *any* plausible scenario in which that compromised git repo might contain malicious code without it being painfully obvious? Or would you rather go back to beating poor Google and samefagging?

>> No.6727848

>>6727842
Round and round we go and just because you refuse to take 10 minutes to read the article I posted.

>> No.6727850

Talk on twitter about this being the work of Russian state actors. What's the implications of that?

>> No.6727851

>>6727848
Yes, that article doesn't negate version control of github.

>> No.6727852

>>6727846
Alright then smart guy, if you really believe that git is unbreakable why don't you try updating your shit now?

>> No.6727856

Noooo, it was the Chinese, lmao

>> No.6727859

>>6727852
Just did. Seems just fine. I wasn't actually expecting it to work, though. Figured they'd be denying clone/pull requests. Guess not.

>> No.6727860
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6727860

mission successful

>> No.6727862
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6727862

>>6727859
If you actually did it then congratulations, you just took the risk of getting pwned just to win an internet argument, only the trophy you're getting is the biggest retard ever trophy.

>> No.6727863

>>6727142

Are they asking for the money to buy a goddamn HDD to backup stuff on from now on?

>> No.6727869

>>6727290
Do you read the entire code every time before compiling?

>> No.6727871

>>6727862
>you just took the risk
Except I didn't, as I can plainly see each and every commit made to the fucking repo.
https://github.com/libretro/RetroArch/commits/master
I realize that the majority of your knowledge on the subject comes from television, but computers aren't magical. Nor are the methodologies used to make them do what they do.

>> No.6727874

>>6727859
By the way, I never once visited Google to get to that article, it was already in my browser history because unlike you, I actually read that kind of stuff.

>> No.6727876

>>6727869
No, but I found amusing that this is the conclusion you came to after reading my post.

>> No.6727878

>>6727871
You can bypass github commit.

>> No.6727880

>>6727871
>Except I didn't
Must be nice living in the fantasy world of ignorance, now I must warn you not to actually read up the article because you don't want to realize just how retarded you're being right now.

>> No.6727882

>>6727878
Nope.

>> No.6727885

>>6727880
There is no amount of doubling down on that article that's going to make you any less wrong. You have literally no idea what you're talking about, and that isn't going to change throughout the course of this thread.

>> No.6727887
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6727887

I suspect mamehaze

>> No.6727892
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6727892

>>6727887

>> No.6727895

>>6727885
>You have literally no idea what you're talking about, and that isn't going to change throughout the course of this thread.
That's rich coming from someone who keep refusing to educate himself.

>> No.6727896

>>6727142
it's as if "hackers" don't know how git works and that github deletes as much shit that facebook does

>> No.6727902

>>6727895
You're a sore loser, anon.

>> No.6727905

>>6727902
Are you jist being ironic on purpose now?

>> No.6727908

>>6727905
I'm merely entertaining myself on yours expense.

>> No.6727909

>>6727895
>That's rich coming from someone who keep refusing to educate himself.
It doesn't matter how many times you parrot this, you have no clue what you're talking about. You have no idea how version control systems work, nor the security that protects them. In your mind, some Mr. Robot "stuff" happened and now all the "data streams are compromised" and the "Gibson has been hacked."

>> No.6727912

>>6727827
>>6727846
Maybe you should try this Google thing you speak of or take it to >>>/wsr/

>> No.6727913

>>6727850
it was putin himself

>> No.6727914

And now we're back to the samefagging.

>> No.6727916

>>6727912
Maybe you should stop being such a sore loser, anon.

>> No.6727918

>>6727909
>All of this depends on the strength of the hash used, though. If our attacker is able to modify floppy.c in such a way that its SHA‑1 hash does not change, that modification could well go undetected. That is why the news of SHA‑1 hash collisions creates concern; if SHA‑1 cannot be trusted to detect hostile changes, then it is no longer assuring the integrity of the repository.
I'm just gonna quote the article now since you seem adamant in keeping yourself ignorant.

>> No.6727924

>>6727908
The feeling is mutual.

>> No.6727929

>>6727918
>If our attacker is able to modify floppy.c in such a way that its SHA‑1 hash does not change, that modification could well go undetected.
Now, explain exactly how you'd do this. Show your work. In fact, feel free to show me a concrete example. Obviously, code tags don't work on /vr/ but we'll make due.

>> No.6727931

>>6727929
https://security.googleblog.com/2017/02/announcing-first-sha1-collision.html
I'll let Google do that in my stead.

>> No.6727938

>>6727931
Disclaimer: Yes I actually searched Google to get to this article, not that invalidates the point like this idiot was trying to imply.

>> No.6727947

>>6727916
I'm not that anon, this is my 3rd post in this thread.

>> No.6727948

>>6727931
>>6727938
>110 GPU
>1 year

oh no, it's retarded

>> No.6727950

>>6727931
And even with Google you've still failed. Yes, this is the announcement of the vulnerability that the article you've been trying to use to make your argument for you this whole time was referring to.

Again, show me the code. Let me see exactly how'd you do this. Stop dodging and cough up something other than hastily Googled articles you don't understand. As a fellow Linux user, I thought you'd be better than this.

>> No.6727957

I'm sure Rertroarch haters turning out to be mentally challenged freaks on closer inspection is merely a coincidence.

>> No.6727958

>>6727772
imagine having such shitty security measures in place lmfaoo

>> No.6727959

>>6727958
What security measures? It was social engineering, not a hack.

>> No.6727962

>>6727950
>Again, show me the code
I'm sure the Google team disclosed their method.
>Let me see exactly how'd you do this
Why do you need my code specifically? I'm not even an expert in this topic, unlike you I don't find it embarrassing to admit my mistake or shortcomings.

>> No.6727963

what does this mean for me? basically i cant download cores?

>> No.6727964

>>6727959
there can still be security measures in place for something like this

>> No.6727965

>>6727962
yes, their method involved using 110 gpus over the span of a year
now stop talking about things you don't understand you embarrassing retard

>> No.6727972

>>6727149
Daniel (aka @libretro / squarepusher / autechre etc.) just pockets most of the libretro income tax-free to fund his NEET lifestyle. Don't fall into his trap.

>> No.6727974

>>6727965
It's not feasible now but it will be in the future.

>> No.6727976

Text

>> No.6727978

>>6727959
They had 2FA turned off for a bunch of contributors who "didn't like it".

>> No.6727979

>>6727974
and thus, completely unrelated to the topic at hand you embarrassing retard

>> No.6727980

>>6727962
>I'm sure the Google team disclosed their method.
They sure did. It involved a cluster. Hilariously, this is also the reason you're wrong, and you did it to yourself. Do I need to explain further? I'd be more than happy to.
>Why do you need my code specifically?
Because I want to be able to say that I knew the guy who first managed to exploit this theoretical vulnerability.
>I'm not even an expert in this topic
Thanks, but that was obvious from the point where you started droning on about "hacked git repos" being hotbeds of completely unpredictable and unverifiable code.

>> No.6727983

>>6727978
2FA is obnoxious garbage.

>> No.6727984

>>6727972
Why do they all name themselves after Warp Records artists?

>> No.6727986

>>6727863
No, he's begging for money so he can buy more toys for himself.

>> No.6727990

>>6727980
>who first managed to exploit this theoretical vulnerability.
They already managed to, this is no longer theoretical, how are you this fucking stupid?

>> No.6727991

>>6727984
autism

>> No.6728003

If they were using git, someone has a replica of the repo out there, guaranteed, and even more likely that someone has the most recent builds and repos, as git is all about "get the whole branch" as a way of doing things.

>> No.6728004

>>6727483
Open source does not mean public domain.

>> No.6728005

>>6727990
Uh, oh. You seem to be having some trouble understanding what "exploit" means. There's a world of difference between Google their resources to put together a cluster that, eventually, provided the proof of concept needed to verify this exploit (i.e. the first SHA-1 collision) and a couple of retarded fucking kids who social engineered their way into a github repo from actually making use of it. The kiddos didn't put together some master plan, let alone a distributed system, just to inject some bad code into a fucking video game emulator frontend using an exploit that's already mitigated and detectable. Again, for a fellow Linux guy, you seem somewhat lacking.

>> No.6728007

>>6727753
>by exploiting hash collision?
Isn't that like trying to win a lottery by buying literally every combination of numbers?

>> No.6728008

>>6728004
If you’re not using it commercially why would it matter?

>> No.6728009

>>6727438
dejap all over again

>> No.6728012

>>6728005
So you're saying just because the risk is small you should just ignore it? For what gain exactly?

>> No.6728014

>>6728008
I'm not torrenting for money but I can still get Disney up my ass for it.

>> No.6728015

>>6727732
>>6727729
>>6727753
desu. don't trust anon, anons. they're all pirates who wanna add spyware to you! of cose, i still use open sauce VLC player, because it just werkz(c).

>> No.6728018

>>6727760
>>6727770
Sony leaked.

>> No.6728023

I've never come across a more retarded argument than this guy claiming that git commits cant be trusted. My head hurts just reading this stupidity. Holy shit

>> No.6728024

>>6727978
>>6727983
>2FA
now why would i want anons to social engineer my phone number. bigthink.

>> No.6728025

>>6727258
Some people are angry that they seem to work on tiger electronics emulation rather than NAOMI, for example.

>> No.6728026

>>6728012
No, I'm saying the risk is nonexistent. This vulnerability in SHA-1 has been documented, mitigated, and is detectable. Anyone who even suspected this exploit might be happening, as unlikely as it is, would verify the integrity of their data via Google's own verification methods before compiling it. Hell, they even devoted a website to doing exactly this for the less technically inclined and the curious.
http://shattered.io/
This vulnerability really was more about website certs than code in a repo anyway. Modern versioning software would expose any trickery even if you'd devoted the gobs of money in assembling the hardware required to exploit an SHA-1 hash.
Are you starting to get it yet?

>> No.6728028

>>6728015
>desu
Good. Now I know you aren't from here. Go back to your discord, retroarch dev.

>> No.6728029

>>6728025
a perfectly valid reason at that

>> No.6728035

>>6727483
Adding to what >>6728004 said, there are two types of open source licenses.
Copyleft licenses (GPL/AGPL/LGPL) that require you to share your changes and (with exception of the LGPL) everything that it was touched by the GPL-licensed software.
Permissive licenses (MIT/zlib/Apache/BSD/MPL/FSFAP) allow you to keep your source code closed, but you still have to add credit and a copy of the license.
Then there is the Unlicense that it's public domain, but the OSI doesn't consider it a license.
>Furthermore, even where it is clear what it means, it's still not a license. To be subject to a license, a work must still be in copyright. That means there is no way for the "public domain", as a concept, to go through the OSI evaluation and approval process.

>> No.6728042
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6728042

>>6728026
How can you be so sure that git is completely unbreakable? You're just being naive on purpose now, do you really believe there is any single program that completely prevents malicious actors today? Much less so one that's written in C?
>This vulnerability really was more about website certs than code in a repo anyway.
They even put git specifically in their potentially impacted system, retard, great job at not reading it completely.
>This vulnerability in SHA-1 has been documented, mitigated
Mitigating this for git specifically requires every repo to convert to SHA-256, have you actually verified that the RA repo has been converted?

>> No.6728045

>>6728042
You're a sore loser, anon.

>> No.6728048

>>6728045
I'm not the naive idiot who believes that git is a perfect protection.

>> No.6728049

>>6727258
they feel threatened due to their own lack of intelligence

>> No.6728050

>>6728048
No, you're an idiot parroting things you have zero understanding of.

>> No.6728051

>>6728042
>How can you be so sure that git is completely unbreakable?
I'm not. I'm sure that this particular exploit is a complete non-threat, though.
>They even put git specifically in their potentially impacted system
Of course they did, as it is. It is entirely possible to perform this exploit to a file sitting in a git repository. They are correct. What issue are you having with this?
>have you actually verified that the RA repo has been converted?
I have. And it has, in fact, *not* been converted. It is still a SHA-1 hashed repo. Again, what's your issue with this?

>> No.6728061

>>6728051
>It is still a SHA-1 hashed repo.
You just said that the risk is non-existent, now why would lie like that knowing what you know? Is it because you're a sore loser who's unable to admit his mistake?

>> No.6728070

>>6728050
Again with the irony, come up with something new, please.

>> No.6728069

>>6728061
>You just said that the risk is non-existent
Yes, I did, as that is correct. You seem to be having a really hard time grasping this. Maybe it's time to stop being worried about winning a stupid internet fight and actually learning something, as you're quite fond of suggesting that others do?

>> No.6728073

>>6728069
>Yes, I did, as that is correct.
Unfortunately for you I take the words of a naive idiot on the internet with a huge grain of salt.

>> No.6728074

>>6728069
Also, even if you're right and there is no risk of updating your shit now, why would anyone do that right now? What gain could you pissibly get by running code off of a hacked repo?

>> No.6728076

>>6727529
He's Dutch. People found a news article in a Dutch paper where him and his mommy(who he lives with) cried about "siggarettenstank" in their neighborhood.

>> No.6728085

>>6728042
That specific attack is already blocked:
https://github.blog/2017-03-20-sha-1-collision-detection-on-github-com/
This feature was added to git 2.13.0, so it's not specific to github, and by now all hosting providers should have switched to it.

Of course other attacks might be found, and a better hash function should be used, but there is currently no publicly known hash-collision attack that can be used to attack modern git repositories.

>> No.6728091

>>6728085
>Of course other attacks might be found, and a better hash function should be used
So you finally admit there is a risk now? Can I finally leave this shithole of a thread?

>> No.6728093

>>6728091
The risk is lower than many other software-related risks you're taking right now, so complaining about it is just shitposting.

>> No.6728094

>dude it's all a scam lol
Anyone who says this needs to fuck off back to /v/. So sick of this negativity. Grow up.

>> No.6728096

>>6728073
And that's a good practice but I think I've explained, even to a layperson's understanding, as to why this is a nonissue even when working with SHA-1 hashed data. I'm sorry, but most bad actors simply don't have the money, time, or desire to throw at duplicating this exploit and, even if they did, they wouldn't be wasting it on poisoning a shitty piece of open source video game software. Especially considering, as I've mentioned a couple of times before, that the exploit is detectable. Not to mention that we're talking about GitHub here, and they patched this exploit way back in 2017 when it was still fairly new. But of course you already knew that, being a Linux guy who clones stuff from GitHub all the time, right?
>why would anyone do that right now?
Because they want the source to build the software? Because they don't want to deal with a crappily packaged binary as most distros seem to do with RetroArch? I can think of a few reasons.
>What gain could you pissibly get by running code off of a hacked repo?
Provided you bothered to look at the commit history and make sure no stupidity is blatantly obvious, a working binary for the software you wanted.

>> No.6728097

>>6728093
I wasn't complaining, all I did was said that nobody can trust the hacked repo, is this not common sense to you?

>> No.6728101

>>6728097
>is this not common sense to you?
No, it isn't. It's factually and demonstrably false to anyone who actually knows what they're talking about.

>> No.6728104

>>6728097
It's shitposting because if you're worried about that level of risk then you shouldn't be using a web browser, yet here you are.

>> No.6728107

>>6728096
>Provided you bothered to look at the commit history
This is already too tall an order for the average /v/ermins, do you understand where I'm coming from now? It's better to simply tell everyone to hold off on updating.

>> No.6728109

>>6727374
for teh lulz, why else?

>> No.6728114

>>6728107
How much further do you plan on moving those poor goalposts. We're already at the point where I can barely see them from here.

>> No.6728120

>>6728114
How is that moving the goalpost? Are you telling me that you think every /v/ermin who uses retroarch actually check its commit history before downloading? Are you seriously retarded?

>> No.6728126

>>6728104
What? Did they also hack firefox's repo?

>> No.6728127

>>6728120
>Are you telling me that you think every /v/ermin who uses retroarch actually check its commit history before downloading?
No, I'm not telling you that. In fact, I never mentioned it at all. I mean, you can keep introducing new arguments in the hopes of finally being right about something if you want. You've already tried it a couple of times now.

>> No.6728129

>>6728127
>Provided you bothered to look at the commit history
I literally quoted you word for word, keep acting like a sore loser, bitch

>> No.6728132

>>6728120
Furthermore, I don't really think that "/v/ermin" using retroarch are cloning the repo and building it from source in the first place. I think, like most people, they're just downloading the prebuilt binaries for their system, which would be completely unaffected by any malicious code inserted after this "hack" went down.

>> No.6728138

>>6728014
That’s not even remotely comparable, editing animations of a Disney movie and sharing on a board is more comparable

>> No.6728140

>>6728126
You're complaining about an exploit patched in 2017. Check this out:
https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=firefox

>> No.6728141

>>6728129
No, you didn't. You made up a completely unrelated argument in an attempt to finally "win" at least one point in this shitshow after you got completely blown the fuck out for talking about things you know less than nothing about. Also, as per my previous post, most people aren't building from source. I'm starting to think this includes you as well. You don't really seem to know much about this stuff at all.

>> No.6728143

>>6728140
Yes it was patched but it requires everyone to mabually convert their repo to the new algorithm, which apparently the retroarch devs didn't do.

>> No.6728145

>>6728076
[source?]

>> No.6728146

>>6728143
>requires everyone to mabually convert their repo to the new algorithm
No, it doesn't. You're not very good at reading. This is becoming more and more apparent as the thread wears on.

>> No.6728148

>>6728143
Wrong. Read the release notes. Shattered attacks are detectable and blockable even if you continue using SHA-1. Upgrading the hash function is insurance against hypothetical future attacks.

>> No.6728149

>>6728141
>>6728132
The buildbot was also compromised though, keep coping you fucking idiot.

>> No.6728151

>>6728149
you don't know when to concede are you brainlet

>> No.6728152

>>6728146
>>6728148
The fact you both keep confusing git and github shows how clueless you are, educate yourselves for once in your life.

>> No.6728156

>>6728152
See >>6728085
"This feature was added to git 2.13.0, so it's not specific to github"

>> No.6728159

>>6728152
Never mind that, apparently git also incorporated the collision detection, I was finally wrong for once ITT.

>> No.6728162

>>6728149
The buildbot builds a "stable" release exactly one time and then throws it on the website for people to download. Unless a commit is explicitly tagged as "release" it doesn't build again for stable. The /v/ermin aren't going out of their way to grab fresh builds of nightly stuff off the bot. You really need to just stop and actually learn how this stuff works.
>>6728151
I haven't confused git and github at any point in this conversation. (More of a GitLab guy myself, but that's another story entirely.) In any case, here you go...
>Starting today, all SHA-1 computations on GitHub.com will detect and reject any Git content that shows evidence of being part of a collision attack. This ensures that GitHub cannot be used as a platform for performing collision attacks against our users.
>SHA-1
>ensures that GitHub
https://github.blog/2017-03-20-sha-1-collision-detection-on-github-com/
Again, you need to get a grasp on this reading thing.

>> No.6728165

>>6728159
>I was finally wrong for once ITT.
How hard is it to just admit you didn't know what you were talking about and you'll do better in the future?

>> No.6728171

>>6728162
>The /v/ermin aren't going out of their way to grab fresh builds of nightly stuff off the bot.
How do you know this?
>>6728165
Already did, can't say the same about you though.

>> No.6728179

>>6728171
>Already did
No, you haven't. You've been constantly insisting that this one particular exploit (the first result in your Google search I'll bet) is somehow a smoking gun for exploiting every other failsafe that version control software like git use. It isn't, and this has been demonstrated rather clearly in the thread.
>can't say the same about you though.
Of course you can't. I haven't been wrong.

>> No.6728180

>>6728162
>The /v/ermin aren't going out of their way to grab fresh builds of nightly stuff off the bot.
No matter how many wild assertions you pull out of your sore ass it's never gonna make you right.

>> No.6728182

>>6728179
>Of course you can't. I haven't been wrong.
Spoken exactly like someone in denial.

>> No.6728187

>>6728076
Whats siggetetenstank?

>> No.6728190

>>6727178
>enemies
Enemies? It's fucking vidya game emulators.

>> No.6728191

>>6728180
>No matter how many wild assertions you pull out of your sore ass it's never gonna make you right.
So you're saying these /v/ermin (whom you've implied more than once are less than technically saavy users) are completely bypassing the big shiny download button on the main website and are instead going out of their way to the git repo to, yet again, avoid downloading the latest stable and are instead grabbing fresh nightlies off the bot? To be clear, is this what you're saying?

>> No.6728195

>>6728182
There's no denial here. I just happen to do embedded systems for a living. I know at least a couple of things about both coding and version control systems. This is also, incidentally, exactly how I know you don't.

>> No.6728201

>>6728191
>instead going out of their way to the git repo to,
https://retroarch.com/?page=platforms
The download nightly button is literally right next to the stable version, keep lying you fucking moron.

>> No.6728204

>>6728195
If you think flashing your credentials badge is gonna scare me away in an internet argument then you must be one retarded inbred, try reddit if anonymity doesn't suit you.

>> No.6728208

>>6727240
True, but it doesn't make it a compelling enough contradiction to be conclusive and valid.

>> No.6728209
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6728209

The fuck is even happening in this thread? Why is some dipshit trying to advocate *for* pulling code from compromised repos? Do you have fucking brain damage?

>> No.6728217

>>6728209
He's a sore loser, not sure why he's so adamant in defending this retarded position.

>> No.6728224

>>6728201
And you think these /v/ermin are clicking it. Admittedly, I didn't even notice. Which makes sense as I just clone the repo and build from source, never bothering to go to a website. Still, let's hear your rationale for why you think the average user, /v/ermin or otherwise, would be running a nightly build?
(Of course, this is ignoring the fact that even if they were they wouldn't be vulnerable to the SHA-1 exploit you've been on about all thread. Just making that clear.)
>>6728204
My point is that I'm the only one in this conversation with credentials. You seem to be completely clueless about anything being discussed so far.
>>6728209
Now, now. Let's not start the samefagging again. This will be at least the third time.

>> No.6728229

>>6728209
>ONE guy posts over 200 posts absolutely sucking RA's dick

Welcome to a RA thread, this must be your first time

>> No.6728237

>>6728224
So you actually believe that literally nobody was using the nightly build? Even if your retarded assertion was true, what about the stable build? What if it's been compromised too? Does everyone who downloads the stable build also make sure that it's reproducibly built from a trusted commit?

>> No.6728240

Calling it now, this is just a stunt to milk donations.

>> No.6728241

I'm not familiar with Github, but how can an entire repo be irremediably erased? Isn't it keeping the history of everything ?

>> No.6728247

>>6728224
>My point is that I'm the only one in this conversation with credentials. You seem to be completely clueless about anything being discussed so far.
Wrong again, not the first time you did it though so no surprise there.

>> No.6728249

>>6728240
Fuck off

>> No.6728251

>>6728249
Fucking make me, faggot.

>> No.6728254

>>6728237
>So you actually believe that literally nobody was using the nightly build?
No, I'm sure at least a modicum of people were using it, mostly testers I'd imagine. It's more for them anyway.
>What if it's been compromised too?
But, as has been demonstrated multiple times in this thread, it hasn't. This SHA-1 exploit that you're desperately clinging to is a complete non-issue, having been patched out of both git (the version control software) and GitHub (the Microsoft owned social justice platform where people with dyed hair and zero programming knowledge come to discuss new codes of conduct and what coding terms are "problematic" this week). This can't be made any more clear.
>>6728247
>Wrong again, not the first time you did it though so no surprise there.
My apologies. What exactly is your background and experience in the subject matter at hand?
>>6728240
You're not wrong.

>> No.6728256

>>6728190
>He thought the actual emulators have enemies

Anon...

>> No.6728261

>>6728254
>it hasn't.
Again with the retarded assumptions, are you incapable of coming up with anything else? I know you're just shitposting right now but this is just boring.
>What exactly is your background and experience in the subject matter at hand?
I refuse to stoop to your level, I go to 4chan because I want to be anonymous, again, go to reddit if you want a dick measuring contest.

>> No.6728265

>>6728261
It has, complete with links. The exploit you've been going on about has been patched out of both git and GitHub. This isn't a point of contention. It's just fact.
>I refuse to stoop to your level
Not surprising. You really don't know what you're talking about, and it shows.

>> No.6728270

>>6728190
If we're talking about the open source community side of it, those guys can be cutthroat over the littlest things.

>> No.6728273

>>6728265
The buildbot is just a file server though, not sure why you're still droning on about git.
https://larsjung.de/h5ai/

>> No.6728281

>>6728265
Also could you permanently put on some kind of trip so we never forget your credentials? I promose I won't filter you.

>> No.6728285

>>6728273
>not sure why you're still droning on about git.
Because of your continued insistence that an SHA-1 collision exploit going back to 2017 that has since been patched out of the entirety of RetroArch's build toolchain is somehow relevant. I'm assuming (and this is apparently a BIG assumption on my part) that you understand where the buildbot gets the code from in the first place.

>> No.6728287

>>6727142
What does this mean? Can I still download cores and use my shaders?

>> No.6728292

>>6728285
>I'm assuming (and this is apparently a BIG assumption on my part) that you understand where the buildbot gets the code from in the first place.
So you're saying that nobody could put tampered binaries that didn't pull from the github? Are you sure you actually work as an embedded programmer? Are all embedded programmers as retarded as you?

>> No.6728295

>>6728292
>So you're saying that nobody could put tampered binaries that didn't pull from the github?
Yes, that is exactly what I'm saying.

>> No.6728298

>>6728292
>that didn't pull
That weren't built*

>> No.6728301

>>6728298
I knew what you meant.

>> No.6728307

>>6728301
Thanks for proving you're retarded, then.

>> No.6728308

>>6728307
I accept your concession.

>> No.6728315

>>6727240
You're an autistic retard

>> No.6728317

>>6728308
Of what? All you did was show everyone how retarded you are.

>> No.6728321

>>6728317
>Of what?
Your acceptance that you were wrong. You're not even trying to argue anymore, so I think you've finally conceded that you really didn't have the background to be in the discussion in the first place.
On the bright side, you've probably learned more about this shit just by pounding on Google trying to "win" the thread that you ever have before in your life. So you've got that going for you.

>> No.6728324

>twitter screencap thread
>300+ replies
When did this board turn into /v/ 2.0?

>> No.6728325

>>6728287
Nevermind, just tried it, no cores show up to download. Fuck, I wanted to get into PC Engine this weekend.

>> No.6728335

>>6728321
>You're not even trying to argue anymore
Can you blame me though? It's exhausting replying to dense idiots like you, who's not interested in what's right and are just trying to win an internet argument, have fun with those binaries you got from the hacked buildbot I guess.

>> No.6728341

>>6728321
Again, please put on a trip so we never forget your credentials, big guy.

>> No.6728343

>>6728335
>Can you blame me though?
Not really. I learned a long time ago that people + anonymous internet means never admitting you were wrong. You are, unsurprisingly, no exception to this. Again, I'm just glad that you've probably learned a lot since the argument started.
>have fun with those binaries you got from the hacked buildbot I guess.
But I rather explicitly explained to you just a few posts ago that I don't use the buildbot, and instead build from source after cloning the repo on my own machine. Do you see why it's hard to take you seriously?

>> No.6728352

>>6728343
>But I rather explicitly explained to you just a few posts ago
You'll have to excuse me for skimming through posts made by a moron like you.

>> No.6728359

>>6728352
>skimming
Oh, thank God. I thought you might actually be unironically retarded.

>> No.6728367

>>6728359
Unfortunately for you you've done more than enough to remove any shadow of doubt that you're retarded.

>> No.6728373

>>6728190
Retroarch devs take exising emulators, slightly modify them adding meme features like CRT shaders, and pocket all the money that s0iboys give them on their patron while actually doing little work.
I am not defending OG emulator devs either, when people ask for QoL features they simply reply that since their emus are open source you can just do it yourself. But it is still easy to see how some of them are not totally comfortable with Retroarch making money out of their work

>> No.6728378

Man I don't give a fuck about all the drama of the devs, I just want to play games.

>> No.6728385

>>6728367
You've still not yet been able to demonstrate anything I've been wrong about, but at least you've stopped going on about years old exploits you didn't know anything about in the first place.

>> No.6728392

>>6728373
Well maybe they should use licenses that prohibit that, then.

>> No.6728401

>>6728224
>>6728209 here, you're full of shit, you can't grasp the simple distinction between risk vs reality. When an outside, uncontrolled party gains access to your repos, that is called a risk, as they can potentially introduce compromised code. Keyword here is risk. Nobody is saying this has happened. Nobody is saying people are running corrupted code. What people are saying is the github has been compromised and as such anything flowing out of it or the buildbot should met with increased scrutiny. Don't care about security? Then whatever, who cares, I don't, but this entire argument is fucking stupid. Also nobody cares about your credentials, I work in software dev too so I'm happy to have a dick measuring contest with you, but literally nobody else here cares, they just want to talk about retro games.

>> No.6728425

>>6728401
>When an outside, uncontrolled party gains access to your repos, that is called a risk
It sure is. Thankfully we have modern versioning control systems that let us know exactly what's been done to an existing codebase, hacked or not.
>as they can potentially introduce compromised code.
Not unnoticed. Which was the whole fucking point of this discussion. Why that other guy (you?) decided to go on about SHA-1 collisions is just weird, but again probably just the first result in a desperate Google search.
>Nobody is saying people are running corrupted code.
Good, because they aren't, and versioning control software is (among several other safeguards) what ensures that we know this is the case. The issue of discussion for the last several years has been malicious code introduced into otherwise *trusted* commits, not obvious bullshit left in a commit by some skids who managed to social engineer a dev's credentials.

>> No.6728426

>>6728385
I didn't have to, let me list some of the retarded assertions you made throughout the course of this thread
>everyone who builds from source check the commit so they're not at risk of being pwned
>nobody downloads from the nightly build so no risk there
>there is no chance that the hackers replaced the binaries on the buildbot with something malicious
So yeah, like I said, you've done more than enough to show how retarded you are.

>> No.6728432

>>6728373
They're doing good work, it doesn't matter that it doesn't benefit you.

>> No.6728439

>>6728425
>Which was the whole fucking point of this discussion. Why that other guy (you?) decided to go on about SHA-1 collisions
The whole point was about the risk, the SHA collision was just an example, good job again, retard.

>> No.6728461

>>6728392
most use GPL 3.0, which forbides selling emulators, but they cant stop people from asking donations

>> No.6728474

>>6728426
>everyone who builds from source check the commit so they're not at risk of being pwned
They really should. Taking at least a cursory glance at the latest commit(s) is always a good practice. I realize people don't, but it is what it is. And what it is, is wholly irrelevant. You are much more likely to be "pwned" by a TRUSTED commit than some exploit introduced by a known compromised account. (Hell, just take a look at the various conspiracy theories over the years about the mere *chance* that someone like RedHat could introduce an obfuscated backdoor into the Linux kernel, for example.) In your example regarding SHA-1 collisions, there is NO risk whatsoever as it's long since been mitigated.
>nobody downloads from the nightly build so no risk there
See above. Same stuff applies here.
>there is no chance that the hackers replaced the binaries on the buildbot with something malicious
Yes, this is correct.

>> No.6728482

>>6728474
>I realize people don't
So why do you keep attacking me after I told these people to hold off on updating their shit?

>> No.6728484

>>6728461
>GPL 3.0, which forbides selling emulators
False.
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html

>> No.6728486

>>6728482
Because there was absolutely no risk of them updating, as has been explained ad nauseum.

>> No.6728492

So... when is this going to be fixed?

>> No.6728497

>>6728425
Risk is risk whether you explain it away or not. You're just beating a dead horse at this point. Yes there are safeguards that mitigate some risk, but if there wasn't risk involved in having that level of access to the repos, there wouldn't be passwords as a means of mitigating those risks either. You're achieving nothing, this is about risk. I can say the word a few more times and tender a definition if that helps you grasp this first grade concept.

>> No.6728502

>>6728486
No you're just a retarded inbred who can't handle being wrong, I should've known I was replying to an anti-systemd cultist, only you and your kind can be this dense.

>> No.6728510

>>6728492
As soon as 1000 paypigs fall for the false flag.

>> No.6728512

The SHA-1 stuff is irrelevant, but I'd still hold off on downloading anything from the buildbot until this is all investigated. If one thing is compromised then so might be other things. The responsible thing to do would be to temporarily stop distributing nightly builds.

>> No.6728528

>>6727382
>Is that why there are so many anti RA posts here?
It'll die down once schools open back up.

>> No.6728532

>>6727170
It's a good job you're fighting the corner of poor, weak nintendocorp.

I care about _retro_ gaming, of which the games already fucking exist. Nintendo could go completely bust for all I care, it won't wipe the previous games out of existence.

Also, I'd rather emulate the original versions with nice emulator graphics plugins than some half-assed plastic-looking nintendo demake. Imagine buying the Link's Awakening remake, holy fuck.

>> No.6728540

>>6727409
"hacked" just means unauthorized intrusion at this point

>> No.6728541

>>6728497
>Risk is risk whether you explain it away or not.
Yep, and in this case there isn't any risk. We can see, quite plainly, exactly what's been done to the data before and after a compromise.
>>6728502
>anti-systemd
What? No one mentioned systemd. I guess this is the part where you try to set it up like you were just "trolling" the whole time.
>>6728512
>The SHA-1 stuff is irrelevant
That's an understatement.
>If one thing is compromised
Good thing nothing was compromised then. Other than a dev's login. A whole bunch of shit was deleted, and the buildbot was disabled, but nothing was compromised.

>> No.6728553

>>6728541
>What? No one mentioned systemd
You couldn't have been more obvious even if you tried to, imbecile, have you ever wondered why you got kicked out of every single distro you infect?

>> No.6728557

>>6728553
>it was all just an elaborate troll!
Again, I gladly accept your concession.

>> No.6728569

>>6728532
it looked cute, i would have picked it up if they didn't want 60 dollars for a remake of a gameboy game

>> No.6728571

>>6728557
You're like a disease, you're unwanted even when you're anonymous, kill yourself already.

>> No.6728581

>>6728571
I'm more interested as to why you think systemd has ever been kicked out of ANY distro. That shit is everywhere at this point.

>> No.6728583

Don't know why people hate RA. I'm new to it, but the features and shaders are a nice bonus over using the stand alone emu. Though not every core is better. Dolphin has more jaggies in RA than stand alone, but for 2D /vr/ systems it's nice to have.

>> No.6728586

>>6728145
It has his mommy's name in it, I can't post it.

>>6728187
sigarettenstank is cigarette stink.

>> No.6728589

>>6728581
Great job misunderstanding my post, are all embedded programmers as retarded as you?

>> No.6728593

>>6728589
So why do you keep attacking me after I told these people to hold off on updating their shit?

>> No.6728595

>>6727297
you check if there have been any commits since the hack, obviously. have you used git before? it would be, again, completely obvious.

>> No.6728605

>>6727409

>noun
the gaining of unauthorized access to data in a system or computer.
"outlawing hacking has not stopped it"

>> No.6728609

>>6728595
No, dude, these hackers have magical hacking powers that can scrub the git history clean off a Gibson. Even GitHub's mirrored git history would be compromised by their newest version of the daVinci virus.

>> No.6728610

>>6728583
>Don't know why people hate RA. I'm new to it

An actual, literal, newfag.

>> No.6728616

>>6728610
new to using RA, not this site. All I know is it makes GBA games worth looking at in 1080p

>> No.6728618

>>6728609
>>6728595
Back to samefagging again I see.

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6728631

>>6728618
>hasn't even hacked a gibson
>thinks he can detect samefagging

>> No.6728636

It's so funny how that guy keeps arguing that some script kiddie could perform a hash-based attack, that took Google a year with 100+ GPUs, in a couple hours. Wow, Retroarch sure has powerful enemies, with computing power that would put supercomputers to shame...and perhaps a time stop ability.
The guy arguing in favor of "risk" is only technically right, there IS a risk, but it's absolutely not the risk he's arguing for. Ultimately this will just annoy the RA devs for an evening and that's about it.

>>6728583
I don't get it either. I use it because it's the only way to have some stuff into Linux without bothering too much or using WINE or Proton. Convenience is a factor after all. It's not like my favorite emulator ever (I very much prefer Bizhawk since it has debug tools and scripting, but it's not available for Linux yet. They are working on it though), but hey it does the job and I have honestly seen worse.

Whatever drama that aphex guy or whatever he's named gets into, doesn't really concern me that much. I use software for utility, not to make a statement. If we did that nobody would use a web browser because all the major players are scummy. And scummy at a corporate level which is a level of power no single autist can ever obtain. It's like the guys rallying to change stuff like "blacklist" in codebases.

>> No.6728645

>>6727568
I'm not even sure why anyone uses these anyway. If it is what I assume it is (a frontend combining various emulators) it's so easy to download an emulator, click file->open, open a rom, and just do that shit yourself. If you can't do that, I'm surprised said individual can even work a computer to install this shit on in the first place.

>> No.6728646

>>6728636
I accept your concession.

>> No.6728658

>>6728636
>It's like the guys rallying to change stuff like "blacklist" in codebases.
Wait until you see the arguments against "master and slave" and "male/female connectors" they've been making on the usual mailing lists. This isn't even getting into the ESR fiasco.
>>6728646
I'm the one who accepted your concession, not him, dipshit.

>> No.6728662

>>6728645
It's not about being too dumb to open an emulator, it's that retroarch provides nice shaders that make the games look more aesthetically pleasing. For me at least. It's also nice to use the menus entirely with my controller so I don't have to switch to M+KB to alter settings if need be. It's just small conveniences make it a step above just using the emulator solo.

>> No.6728668

>>6728658
I already told you to put on a trip, it'd make life so much better here if every idiots like did that.

>> No.6728671

>>6728401
>>6728425

How about ending that dick measuring contest in the classic way?
Why don't you two post a picture of your dick with a ruler next to it already and the one with the bigger one is declared the winner and his opinion whether you can or cannot pull from the repo right now the only and certified true one.

Jesus...

>> No.6728673

>>6728668
So you're saying that nobody could put tampered binaries that didn't pull from the github? Are you sure you actually work as an embedded programmer? Are all embedded programmers as retarded as you?

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>>6728673
Now he's trying an identity theft, fucking adorable.

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6728682

>>6728668
>>6728671
>exactly one minute between shitposts

>> No.6728708

>>6728662
I don't care about shaders. I do care about better latency than original hardware (runahead/late polling/black frame insertion) and perfect frame pacing (dynamic rate control). Standalones can't do this.

>> No.6728736

>>6728708
Why can't standalones do this? I hadn't even heard of those terms before (I don't give a shit about accuracy, as long as it plays decent I don't give a shit) but from a quick search bsnes seems to support dynamic rate control. Does it support all of these features for every console emulated, is that what you mean?

>> No.6728741

>>6728736
Yes, RA supports them for all cores. I'm not aware of any standalone core than supports all four of them, although it's possible such a thing exists.

>> No.6728746

>>6728646
That's my first post in this thread, mate, other than also using Linux I got nothing to do with the other guy.

I mean, yes, there's a risk, you are technically right.
But ultimately this is not much of a big deal in the long term. The real damage is that the devs will be very annoyed for a couple days (which was, most likely, the motive for this stunt. I guess you can say hackerman succeeded).

None of the really devious attacks could have been made in the time the repo was compromised. It's like if someone enters your room and stays a minute before you catch him. He'll have time to throw shit around or pocket some valuables, but he won't have time to install 20 perfectly hidden cameras, masturbate over your underwear and install a bitcoin miner in your computer. Not unless he can stop time. When you are assessing damages like this, you gotta prioritize the options that are sensible, otherwise you'd never run out of options. Be a bit paranoid, but not too much.

>>6728658
Ugh, yeah, it's really annoying to see so much effort put in something that doesn't mean a thing. And my god the supporters of those things are incredibly stubborn, even when black guys tell them that they don't care.

>> No.6728795

>>6728736
They could do it but they just don't. With libretro it comes for free when you port core to its API. One of the reasons retroarch is so great is the many things it supports automatically for all countries.

>> No.6728867

They said their last backup was 2 months ago. Has anything really changed since then? These games are 30 years old, what more does each core need to update with regularly to run them? Should be an easy fix I imagine.

>> No.6729676

So which one of you did it

>> No.6729680

>>6728795
>They could do it but they just don't
Because there's no reason to. It's literal placebo.

>> No.6729703

>>6728325
>I wanted to get into PC Engine this weekend.
MESS still werkz AFAIK. RA shills can't use anything that isn't RA???
http://mess.redump.net/

>> No.6729712

Are retroachievement logins/passwords saved on libretro servers?

>> No.6729717

>>6729712
I'm pretty sure it's just saved on your PC and pings the retroachievements website

>> No.6729727

>>6729680
There's no way to get perfect frame pacing on a PC without either VRR or DRC, and dropped or duplicated frames are immediately obvious. BFI is also immediately obvious. The pure latency improvements are variable in their obviousness.

>> No.6729858

>>6728867
not sure why they would need weekly or monthly backups either or why it should cost them so much: the build infrastructure (scripts, compilers, etc) is the only thing that needs to be saved afain and it does not really change that much often. Core binaries can easily be rebuilt from sourcecode that is hosted in github repositories so it would not make much sense to spend $$$ to backup builds for every single cores on every single platforms RA is supporting.

Something smells fishy about that story...

>> No.6729868

>>6727162
Nintendo #1 suspect

>> No.6729880

>>6727142
oh gawd dem hackers hacked us, pls gib monie

>> No.6729932

>>6727237
>By everyone. Users, non-users, emulator devs, hardware devs...
I understand hate coming from emulator devs, but the idea of users actively hating it is hilarious
>I don't like the UI of this free software!!!!! They must be DESTROYED!!!!

>> No.6729939

>>6729932 meant for >>6727232

>> No.6730024

>>6727142
That's not funny, that's pathetic.

Just because you don't like someone doesn't mean blowing out a code repo is in any way acceptable or something an adjusted adult does. They aren't the only people who add code to this project.

You're a piece of shit for glorifying this OP.

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6730048

>>6727798
Nigga i aint the first guy you responded to, but i have ocarina in the n64 in the living roon already hooked up and own the gamecube disc. But i can emulate it without leaving this fucking chair so i would never go back. Not to mention on pc i can play it with a non shit controller.

>> No.6730051
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6730051

>>6727850
I can only think of one man...

>> No.6730056

>>6730024
is this your first day here?
its either shitposting or laughing at others misery because this place is filled with subhuman filth. better than /v/ but lately lot of them have been coming over here to fuck this place up too.

>> No.6730113

>>6730024
My Daniel detector is going wild

>> No.6730148

>>6727514
TA is Dutch you fucking mongrel

>> No.6730160

>>6727214
Why? I mean I hate retroarchs ui, but it's all anyone ever recommends

>> No.6730171

>>6730160
Because it literally is the best option to emulate everything up to the 5th gen while mameshills come up with false statistics about how much "everyone" hates ra lol

>> No.6730378

>>6728569
A gameboy game you can 100% in a few hours. I love LA but I'm not paying $60 for a remake. $20 is about right for a new game that size released in 2019.

>> No.6730387

>>6729727
Ok, but a reasonable individual will not notice any of that.

>> No.6730415

>>6727274
When something is developed by tons of people, a single bad actor can slip things in maliciously. That it is likely to be found eventually doesn't mean it won't compromise a few people. Do you not even remember HeartBleed? That was OpenSSL. Seriously, stop pretending you know what you're talking about.

>> No.6730434

>>6727567
>Who cares where it came from as long as I can get my hands on it?
Ahhh, that mindless consumerism.

>> No.6730485

>>6727568
You post this a lot. What's it from?

>>6727589
>If you do something for free, dont cry about people not crediting you.
What an entitled manchild attitude.

>>6727772
Kek, it's Kevin Mitnick all over again, where the super scary l33t h4xor was really just a social engineer convincing people to give him passwords. Anyway, I'm too lazy to actually read up on this breach: do they know exactly when they were compromised? No reason to assume the date everything was purged is the same as when the hacker gained access.

>> No.6730502

>>6729932
yeah this isn't a thing
people who hate the UI (myself included) or think twinaphex is a massive faggot (also myself included) don't want the project to go bye bye just because

>> No.6730567

>>6727784
>The three golden rules to ensure computer security are: do not own a computer; do not power it on; and do not use it.
>hmmm, let me build this shit from a repo I know was recently compromised

>>6727850
What the hell would russia gain from this?

>>6728586
>>6728076
Is that some pussy ass way of complaining about turks without naming them?

>> No.6730658

>>6730502
>twinaphex is a massive faggot
why

>> No.6730710

>>6730658 see
>>6727526

>> No.6730747

>>6727526
This is just embarrassing, desu.

>> No.6730779

>>6730710

All the people in this scene are autists and equally childish.

As long as I get an endproduct at the end of the day, I couldnt give a shit about any of this shit.

You seem really obsessed and a bit of a loser to try to get some cancel culture thing going based on 2 year old he said she said back and forth quotes and comments, 30 percent of which you are likely attributing to random anons. Pathetic desu, get a life.

>> No.6730793

>>6727526
He sounds toxic as fuck. Maybe he should be kicked out of the project. One maintainer of the project being a big asshole doesn't justify hacking the project though.

>> No.6730813

>>6730793

The people feuding with him are just as toxic, you wont see anybody running a blog site on their antics since this is all one sided shitposting with the deliberate intent to turn public opinion against them. Its just a defamation campaign by shitty people that are just as bad as him and just have an axe to grind.

>> No.6730827

>>6730502
This. Friendly reminder that twinaphex/squarepusher has been a regular on 4chan on /vr/, /v/, and /vg/ for years and used to use a trip until people started calling him a faggot non-stop. I don't like or use RetroArch, but only a faggot would want it gone just because SP/TA is a faggot. Why bother hating something you don't use or care about?

People hate on the MAMEdevs since the MAMEdevs do what they feel like instead of letting random people on the internet dictate what they do next. Or because they can't into MAME or can't understand why MAME is setup the way it is. Or really retarded faggots who used some android MAME port and are angry the MAMEdevs aren't fixing the port they never made.

People hate on Byuu for making the best SNES emulator hard to use for a while, which was fixed years ago. They also hate him because his SNES emulator doesn't work at full speed on their toaster or SBC or smartphone.

>> No.6730831

>>6730779
>As long as I get an endproduct at the end of the day
That's a very uninformed opinion my friend.
A project whose members steal code and violate licenses risks being attacked in court and it's bad for the users in the long run. Also no one will want to contribute to a project that shits on their rights.

>> No.6730835

>>6730827

Byuu actually left because of the gang stalking crap that went on at Kiwifarms. It's very similar to that shitty blog site in fact, targeting people, prying into personal matters that don't concern them, trying to make people look bad, making it personal, etc.

Enjoy a dead scene by keeping this going.

>> No.6730838

>>6730827
The emu community seems to be exceptionally autistic.

>> No.6730847

>>6730831

Accusations of "code theft" is what led to another developer recently stopping emulator development altogether (Sour) because some other emulator author (SameBoy) accused him of it.

Both open sores, just pointless sabre rattling. That's all this bullshit is. It's just autist trannies with chips up their shoulder that instead of saying in public "I don't like you" start trotting out accusations of "code theft" and "license violation". It's a different way of saying "I don't like you" on the school playground. Arrested development.

>> No.6730852

>>6730779
>>6730835
reddit spacing? check
needless new line after quoting someone? check
defending retroarch and twinaphex from any and all criticism? double check
hi daniel! good to see you back.

>> No.6730862

>>6730852

Then you have mentally ill autists like this that think they have some 'handwriting recognition' software installed in their brain that makes them detect the 'lead author' of the software they're so virulently against.

>> No.6730863

>>6730779
>>6730852
forgot to mention
>"muh cancel culture"
sorry daniel, but chimping out isn't good optics. just stop chimping out bro, not that hard lol

>> No.6730864

>>6730852
>>6730831
>>6730710

You really should stop samefagging.

Did TwinAphex touch you when you were a child or something?

>> No.6730865

>>6727214
Proof of this? I can't find much hate for them except in a few places by repeat posters.

>> No.6730867

>>6727284
Holy shit you are retarded

>> No.6730868

>>6730862
i know exactly who im dealing with faggot
>>6676431
>>6676349
>>6676337

>> No.6730871
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6730871

>>6730864
does your autism prevent you from writing in a different style so you're not easily recognised? because it's really not that hard
pic related isn't proof, but i hope you'll think of me as not big enough a sperg to edit the HTML just to save face

>> No.6730875

>>6730865
Holy shit. Look Danny (I can call you Danny right?), your posts are painfully obvious.

>Got any proof for this?
>Care to point me to a source?

Etc. on any posts critical of your pathetic person or your shit project.

It’s time to end it my man. Your life is a failure anyway, you know this.

>> No.6730897
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6730897

>>6730875
>>6730871
>>6730867
>>6730864
>>6730863
>>6730852
have you taken your meds today ?

>> No.6730898

>>6728373
>slightly modify them adding meme features like CRT shaders

So they add essential components which should have been standard from the start? Look at CRT without CRT shaders, looks absolutely nothing like what was in the 90s, gives people a totally false impression of videogame history

>> No.6730901

>>6730871

Hopefully that guy that you responded to can realize for himself now just how utterly insane you anti-RA fanboys are, since everybody and anybody must be this guy you are so utterly obsessed by. Do you want to have mad anal sex with this guy or what is the deal?

>> No.6730906
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6730906

>>6730897
elaborate on why im being unreasonable
i really wanna see you try to argue your point
>>6730901
daniel PLEASE, stop new-lining after quoting me for the love of GOD
not only is it ugly as shit, but it's so obviously coming from you. try harder for me, buddy :(

>> No.6730907

>>6730901

It’s the sign of serious mental illness to talk about yourself in the third person.

>> No.6730921

>>6730898
>Look at CRT without CRT shaders
what do you mean, CRT without CRT shaders?

>> No.6730938

>>6730921
i can only assume he meant to write "look at a game on an LCD without a CRT shader", as in games intended for use on crt televisions look very different when they're perfect squares on modern LCDs

>> No.6731097

>>6730793
>toxic
So when did you faggots start raiding this board

>> No.6731113

>>6730906
>elaborate on why im being unreasonable

Because of this:
>>6730906
>stop new-lining after quoting me for the love of GOD

you sound like an obsessed sperg, you realize that ?

>> No.6731114

>>6731097
I'm on 4chan since around 2007 and on /vr/ since its creation, dumbass.

>> No.6731120

>>6731113
check here: >>6730868
75% of the posts defending twinaphex are by one person who has a clearly unique text formatting style *and* consistently uses phrases like "cancel culture" and "harassment campaign" to describe people bitching about twinaphex being a cunt

>> No.6731123

>>6731113
sup Dan

>> No.6731131

>>6731123

Hitting Enter doesn't make me Daniel you retard.

>> No.6731135
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6731135

>>6727142
What, you like lag or something? Also, nothing you lagalones have comes close to the quality of the Mupen64Plus, Flycast, and Beetle PSX cores.

>> No.6731208

lmao, some of the retroarch haters are legit schizophrenic

>> No.6731210

>>6731208
My favorite /vr/ schizo is that guy who always says not retro and talks about YouTube and zoomers hahaha

>> No.6731212

>>6731208
>some of the population are schizophrenic
You don't say

>> No.6731215

Good. Fuck retroarch.

>> No.6731216

>>6731215
This. Fuck retroarch and FUCK TERFs

>> No.6731223

>>6731216
What are TERFs?

>> No.6731227

>>6731223
Google or duckduckgo it cislord

>> No.6731237

>>6731227
When you do that nothing related to emulation comes up. It's all transgender and feminism debates.

>> No.6731238
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6731238

>>6731208
elaborate

>> No.6731240
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6731240

holy mother of based

>> No.6731250

>>6731240
>Being this insecure
bruh

>> No.6731252

>>6731250
how's life treating you, p1pkin?

>> No.6731253

>>6731240
>OK, I think this thread has run its course and is now turning into personal attacks and non-sense bitching.

Jesus christ, can't anyone talk about RA without this happening? THIS SHIT BE CURSED YO

>> No.6731256

>>6731240
I can't imagine letting people on the internet get under my skin THAT easily. You just know he sleeps restlessly, tossing and turning because someone he's never met called him a faggot.

>> No.6731260

>>6731253
It’s not cursed, its lead dev (Daniel/twinaphex/squarepusher) is the one who always turns the discussions to shit, see: that screenshot you quoted and this very thread

>> No.6731263

>>6731260
>>6731256
>>6731253
>noooo stop being toxic to emu devs, they're delicate flowers!

dilate

>> No.6731267

>>6728076
>siggarettenstank
googling:
"de Matteis" "sigarettenstank"
gave me this:
https://pastebin.com/raw/Bt1xy4ki
this shit just gets better and better
he's a literal NEET living off patreon bucks

>> No.6731269

>>6731240
>a dutchman insulting anyone, as if his people aren't the lowest of the low
>literally from the low countries
I don't know anything about the ukranian, but at the very least I'm sure his mother isn't getting spitroasted on the regular by turks and surinamese.

>> No.6731270

>>6731263
Can you read? I’m not defending that faggot, I’m saying that he’s a retarded thin-skinned faggot NEET with an autistic need to shit up every thread.

>> No.6731271

>>6731263
That second poster probably agrees with you, and the third poster definitely does. First one could go either way.

>> No.6731272

>>6731267

And what have you accomplished? He’s living the dream while you’re just a butthurt no-name wagie.

>> No.6731273

>>6731267

>> No.6731274

>>6731263
lrn2read

>> No.6731281

>>6731267

You're the same faggot that has been repeating this shit for hours on end now samefagging.

Also, the person in that conversation stream is the same one behind that 'leaks' site.

All of this is a one-sided defamation campaign by one samefag, probably you.

Also the drama you post is over 2 years old and nobody cares.

>> No.6731282
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6731282

>>6731272
>>6731273
nice double post boomer
>>6728586
>>6728145
>>6728076
look what i found

>> No.6731285

>>6731267

Found the hacker.

>> No.6731286

>>6731281
Dannyboyyyyy

How’s the sigarettenstank in your neighbourhood?

>> No.6731289

>>6731260
>>6731253
>>6731240
i for suppork free ukraine based poster. squarepusher a shit shill who shitposts here.

>> No.6731291

>>6731281
>accuses others of samefagging whilst samefagging himself
>"muh DEFAMATION CAMPAIGN"
>"the drama is over 2 years old"
yep, it's daniel time
>>6731282
"Moeder! Schakel het luchtfilter onmiddellijk in! Of anders!"

>> No.6731292

>>6731291

>"muh DEFAMATION CAMPAIGN"

What else is it if you can't get this fag's name out of your mouth?

Bitch hear yourself talk just now. Literally nobody gives a shit about this or knows what to make of any of this dumb shit.

>> No.6731294

>>6731282
Can't read HIV infected prostitute-runes. What's it say?

>> No.6731295

Retroarch team look like the biggest group of fags imaginable.

>> No.6731306

why can't the emu community just make peace

>> No.6731308 [DELETED] 

>>6731292
"defamation campaign" is one of many danielisms
here's a list i've compiled over the course of my case study of one twinaphex:
>defamation campaign
>"the drama is 2 years old"
>samefagging
>accusing other's of samefagging
>oh-so-x
>using ' for emphasis
>using - as a semicolon
>blablabla
>Reddit spacing
>feefees
>newline after quoting
>casual racism and xenophobia, primarily to insult someone who's hurt his feefees
>complaining about things he does
>biting the hand that feeds
>unwritten rules
>sigarettenstank
>bury the hatchet
>extend an olive branch

>> No.6731312

>>6731292
Nigger, posting screenshots of what someone wrote is not defamation. I'd never even heard of these developers before this thread but you are quite literally gay for this twinaphex guy. He's dutch, just fly to the netherlands and I'm sure he'll let you suck his dick for free. Otherwise, stop trying to suck his dick through the thread.

>> No.6731313

>>6731308
that's one mighty study mr. schizo

>> No.6731316

>>6731308
>my case study of one twinaphex

holy mother of kek
take your meds

>> No.6731319

>>6731313
thanks
>>6731316
only if daniel promises to take his

>> No.6731320

>>6731308

let's reply to him with a blank line and see him go batshit insane

>> No.6731326
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6731326

>>6731320
my job here is done
see you next retroarch thread, daniel

>> No.6731328 [DELETED] 

>>6731308
>>casual racism and xenophobia, primarily to insult someone who's hurt his feefees

"Ukranians" are not a race. It's not the rest of the world's fault that the EU uses them and other Eastern Europeans as cheap slave labor. It's the fundamental bedrock of the EU if you didn't happen to know.

>bury the hatchet
>extend an olive branch

Apparently you never heard of English expressions before. I'll be sure to update my 'twinaphex' detecto meter and suspect anyone using these as being 'twinaphex' somehow.

Seriously my man, if you want my straight opinion, either find a straitjacket, or find some other way to cope. Like I dunno, go do something that people find value in, start a Patreon, have people donate to it, and hope it matches that of the guy you so clearly despise. While you're writing all this shit, only one of you two makes any money while doing so. You just waste your time in all this Internet e-activism not convincing minds and not making any money either. Talk about NEET. You should go meet up on Kiwifarms, this is not your personal army.

>> No.6731329

Daniel and the spergs attacking him really found each other.

>> No.6731335

>>6727526
amazing. he makes byuu and trannie furry mamedev look like saints.

>> No.6731341

>>6731306
the only cool emu devs were shitman of ZNES.

>> No.6731350 [DELETED] 

>>6731328

I agree, Ukrainians are shit scum. I hate them. I wish Hitler or Stalin had wiped them out - yet here we are.

Anyone who complains about anything should shut the fuck up and stop whining and donate money to Retroarch. How will Retroarch fix anything without money?

Daniel is completely innocent, being mean on the internet is perfectly acceptable behavior and I will not stand to see his name slandered so ruthlessly by these SJW cancel culture freaks on a harassment campaign to ruin a man's life just because he dares to be bold and beautiful.

Excuse me, but I smell disgusting tobacco - my idiot mother must have let changing the air filter slip her mind. Ah well. I can't bite the hand that feeds me, so to speak.

>> No.6731351

>>6731335
>trannie furry mamedev
who are you referring to?

>> No.6731353

>>6731335
>byuu
what did he even do wrong ?

>> No.6731360

>>6731353
Cared more about accuracy than people playing their pirated games on a 20 year old laptop.

>> No.6731367

>>6731360
>cared about being an attention whoring drama furry more than about writing an emulator

fixed

>> No.6731378 [DELETED] 

>>6731350

This is not funny. Stop mocking Daniel, he is an extremely gifted developer and individual.

>> No.6731379 [DELETED] 

>>6731350
>I agree, Ukrainians are shit scum. I hate them. I wish Hitler or Stalin had wiped them out - yet here we are.

"Ukrainians" don't exist. It's literally poorfag Russians from a former Soviet satellite state.

>> No.6731381

>>6731378
>>6731350
samefag lol

>> No.6731382

>>6731381

Some kind of identification system or IP system should really be implemented to identify these samefag attempts at steering the conversation.

>> No.6731386

>>6731381
In bed now, but I'm the one who wrote the lengthy shit post. The other shit post is someone else. Not that it matters, b-baka!!

>> No.6731390

>>6731382
>everybody who disagrees with me is the same person

Meds. Take them.

>> No.6731395

>>6731381
I'm in bed now, but I was the one who wrote the lengthy shit post. Whoever wrote the other shit post if someone else. Not that it matters, b-baka!!

>> No.6731410
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6731410

So we went from kids with overactive imaginations and hacker fantasies demonstrating that they don't even know how git works to full blown schizophrenia. RA threads are crazy as hell.

>> No.6731414

>>6731350
Cringe

>> No.6731417

>>6731390
Not that guy, but whenever I see someone react this defensively to samefag accusations, it honestly just makes me more convinced they're samefagging.

>> No.6731420

>>6731351
the guy who shitposts on tweeter and says he's making MAME focus on Game 'n' Watch games.

>> No.6731427

>>6731382
only admin has that info i think. and according to moot, aussies and brits were the biggest shit posters. not racist shilling dutchfags.

>> No.6731437

>>6731427

Moot has sold your site off a long time ago to a Japanese entrepreneur. Not sure what the point even is of mentioning him when '4chan' was just a money making gig for him. He moved on with his life and couldn't give less of a shit.

>> No.6731439

>>6731379
Weird. How'd they end up with their own language?

>> No.6731440 [DELETED] 

>>6731437
>entrepreneur
Daniel! It's almost time to shower. Out of your room, now!

>> No.6731449

>>6731437
4chan was never profitable while moot was in charge. Might be now with the 4channel split, but I have always blocked ads so I don't know if there's more advertising bux now.

>> No.6731473

>>6731414

Good thing the mods are cleaning up this mentally ill guy's nonsense

>> No.6731491
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6731491

Fuck Retro Arch and fuck the s o y boys that it.

>> No.6731496

HEY MOD

HOW ABOUT YOU STOP SUCKING DANIEL’S NEET DICK

Go ahead, delete this post too, I bet that will make you feel like less of a failure of a man.

>> No.6731505

>>6731250
people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones

>> No.6731549

>>6731496

Aww

little Raphie isss soo mad

>> No.6731551

>>6731491
>fuck the s o y boys that it.
What did he mean by this

>> No.6731591

>>6731549
>>6731551

Sup Dan you faggot

>> No.6731602

>>6731591

How do you always know it's me ? You're spot on everytime, it's scary.

>> No.6731707

>>6727142
Good.

>> No.6732073

its bloated and gay anyways, newest version never worked right on my system, menu was all messed up. The menus are a maze.

All I wanted was to run N64 games, mupen64plus git works for pretty much everything that matters.

>> No.6732098

>>6732073
>implying native Mupen64plus is even close to as awesome as ParaLLEl RDP/RSP with internal resolution scaling
Keep coping, brainlet.

>> No.6732125

It's revealed every goddamn time that haters of RA are looking to make ebin kiwifarms style drama out of everything or utter fucking morons that can't stop to learn anything for a few minutes and wouldn't notice/appreciate the benefits of RA even if they did.

>> No.6732339

>>6732125
>can't stop to learn anything for a few minutes and wouldn't notice/appreciate the benefits of RA even if they did.
This tbqh, they sound like resetera trannies

>> No.6732410

>>6732073
n64 babby is a 70 iq manchild, color me impressed

>> No.6732418

>>6731367
you can tell when shitpusher is in the thread when he starts going on about muh furries

>> No.6732421

>>6732418
>everyone is sp
faggot

>> No.6732425

>>6732418
are you telling me that byuu is not a furry?

>> No.6732427

>>6732418
Take your meds.

>> No.6732434

>>6732421
>>6732425
fun fact: absolutely no one cares if byuu like kemoshota and the only time it's brought up is when sp has an axe to grind with him

>> No.6732436

>>6732434
faggot "opinion": disregarded

>> No.6732440

>>6732434
Nice double standards, so in your head trying to "cancel" sp because he's an asshole is justifiable, but doing the same to byuu for having sexual desires for animals and little boys isn't. What a faggot

>> No.6732449

>>6732440
the difference being that you're an obnoxious faggot, sp

>> No.6732452

>>6732449
Take your meds tranny

>> No.6732453

>>6732449
t. furry enabling homo

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6732472

>>6732449
>get absolutely told
>n-no u

>> No.6732475

>>6731353
>byuu
>what did he even do wrong ?
Just your usual opinionated autistic developer with a massive ego, aka emudev. He pissed a small number of insane people off who kept up a ten-year blood feud on 4chan, but nobody really cared. He got an article on Ars Technica and became way too popular for his own good.
In 2017 he made a fursona to fit in with the other furry degenerate emudevs on Twitter, so that plus popularity made him a prime target for Kiwi Farms, a forum full of self-loathing autists that try to take down any other autist who becomes popular or successful due to crab mentality. Case in point, the person who made the thread on Byuu was PA-8600 / gligar13vids, a cat furry who's into anthropomorphic plane sex.
The sad part of it is Byuu really cleaned up his act a couple years ago and dropped all the furry degeneracy, put out a pretty great version of Bsnes, and was making good progress on the N64 and PSX, but KF can't help beating a dead cow. They eventually started doxing other emudevs like StapleButter and he got tired of it and quit for good, so now we're not gonna get an autistically perfect N64 emulator from him in a few years.

>> No.6732493

>>6732475
> They eventually started doxing other emudevs like StapleButter
good

>> No.6732513

>>6732493
Yeah let's go ahead and kill our chances for an autistically great Nintendo DS emulator too. Because nothing says "we're well adjusted normal people" like stalking autistic trannies on their personal Twitter accounts.

>> No.6732518

>>6732513
the less mentally deranged freaks who cut their dicks off in the emu community the better
desmume is superior in every way anyway

>> No.6732525

>>6732440
>>6732436
Perverts are infinitely preferable to assholes. Anyone who thinks otherwise is scum in human shape and shape alone. What the fuck do I care about someone else's kinks?

>> No.6732528

>>6732525
faggot opinion: disregarded

>> No.6732531

>>6732518
At least OSS emudev is a productive use of autism. I couldn't give a shit less what they do in their personal lives if they make good software, or if RetroArch can repackage it into good software. DeSmume is garbage tier shit ran by an asshole with an ego that could black out the sun.

>> No.6732535
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6732535

>>6732525
>Perverts are infinitely preferable to assholes.
Let me guess, you identify as a communist. Can't wait for the day it will become legal to take you degenerate scum on free helicopter rides.

>> No.6732536

>>6732531
>DeSmume is garbage tier shit ran by an asshole with an ego that could black out the sun.
lmao, not only are you enabling tranny freaks, you also blatantly lie about superior competing products
what a disingenuous little man

>> No.6732541

Didn't know Retroarch made LGBT community its sworn enemy.

>> No.6732543

>>6732541
Samefagging tranny scum.

>> No.6732545

>>6732536
Hey if I'm willing to accept furfag degeneracy I can accept your weird fetish for bad emulators too. You do you bud.

>> No.6732547

>>6732545
Elaborate how is desmume bad.

>> No.6732549

>>6732547
The dev isn't a pedophilic tranny

>> No.6732562

>>6732549
>Everyone I don't like is a pedophile.
>A conservative child's guide to online discussion.

>> No.6732564

>>6732562
faggot opinion: disregarded

>> No.6732565

>>6732564
incel status: triggered

>> No.6732568

>>6732565
this too, apparently

>> No.6732571

>>6732125
>>6732339
>>6732440
>>6732452
>>6732453
>>6732472
>>6732531

Jesus Christ.

How can one autist (Daniel de Matteis) samefag this much.

Are you still living with your mother?

Your project sucks, you suck, and you should just neck yourself already. God damn.

>> No.6732574

>>6732571
dilate + join the 40%, freak

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6732580

>>6732571
>reddit spacing
>samefagging hard but says at least 4 other anons are the same person
>>just neck yourself. God Damn.
You're fucking sad

>> No.6732583
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6732583

>>6732571
Not everyone who disagrees with you is the same person, anon.

>> No.6732585

>>6732571
You write like a little bitch lmao.

>> No.6732603
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>>6732571
>Daniel diddled me when I was still a little girl

>> No.6732607

>>6732535
Let me guess, you're a retard who thinks everyone else is as one dimensional as he is. Oh wait, I don't have to guess.

>>6732528
As if anyone in your life has ever cared about your opinion.

>> No.6732613

>>6732607
back to resereta, subhuman

>> No.6732627

>>6732613
>projecting this hard

>> No.6732643

>>6732607
>imagine being so assblasted at a dev that you feel the need to talk shit about him on every thread and mislead people not to use the software said dev is working on based on gay ass political and social views.
You really are the ultimate faggot anon. Also, communism never worked, furries are degenerate gays and you should really rethink your life. Bye

>> No.6732649

>>6732643
>furries are degenerate gays
That they are, but even furries don't think about gay sex as much as you apparently do. It's okay to come out of the closet you know?

>> No.6732657
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>>6732649
classic unwashed leftist comeback

>> No.6732664

>>6732643
Literally who are you quoting?
>Everyone who disagrees with me is a commie!
Whatever helps you sleep at night, you closet homo. I'm sure you'll dream of sucking cock and wake up to vent about all the commies trying to turn you gay in order to repress those dreams.

>> No.6732670

>>6732664
>reads Freud once

>> No.6732704

>>6732664
>Literally who are you quoting?
He thinks he's having a conversation with one other person, so literally everyone else here.

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>>6732670
Kek, as if your obsession with commies trying to turn you into a fag is concealed in any way. I'm not saying you dream of things that symbolize latent homosexual desires or whatever psychoanalytical bullshit, I'm saying you dream of sucking cocks, you cock-obsessed troglodyte.

>> No.6732762

>>6732756
Projecting this hard.

>> No.6732771

>>6732762
>quoting you is me projecting
See >>6732535

>> No.6732775

>>6732762
Anon seriously, we don't care that you wanna suck cocks. Do whatever floats your boat, it's none of our business. Jesus was actually cool with it and never said not to, you won't get judged for it when you die. Chow down man.

>> No.6733584

After reading through this thread I can safely say I have never seen a more mentally unstable group as the anti-RA shills, you guys need help