/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.6715124]

please stop bullying dracula x

[Anonymous No.6715132]

It's just rondo of blood without all the added sprites and things that make it cool. its so hallow and forced

[Anonymous No.6715136]

>>6715124
Unironically superior to Rondo of Turd.

[Anonymous No.6715139]

Dracula X is such a fucking faggot I bet he kisses girls.

[Anonymous No.6715143]

>>6715132
It's actually Rondo of Blood but with completely new and different levels, and actual backgrounds instead of brick walls/black screens

[Anonymous No.6715157]

It’s ok, but nearly as good as Rondo

[Anonymous No.6715159]

>>6715132
>16 meg cart
And who have Konami release this rush programming code?

[Anonymous No.6715160]

>>6715124
Recently I have decided to finish all retro Castlevania. I started with NES, then SNES and now I'm doing the Game Boy games. I really hated Dracula X(even if we ignore Rondo of Blood) mostly because I always saw it as a downgrade to Castlevania IV. But then I played Castlevania: The Adventure(just now got to stage 4) and holy fucking shit this is the worst Castlevania I have ever played. Not only the character is slow, there are way too many precise timing jumps (stage 3 is full of this shit, those spikes coming to kill you made me suffer way to much) and jump + attacking means you are going to miss 9 out of 10 attacks. I do not hate Dracula x anymore, it's a great game compared to the shit that is Castlevania the adventure.

[Anonymous No.6715164]

>>6715160
Someone hadn’t play Haunted Castle (weird arcade) yet.

[Anonymous No.6715165]

>>6715160
Stage 3 is where I gave up on Adventure. Such a terrible game and yes Dracula X is a masterpiece in comparison. Fortunately Castlevania 2 on gameboy is great and adventure rebirth is excellent, one of my favorites in the series and really a nice send off for the series

[Anonymous No.6715169]

The box is beat up to all hell but about 4 years ago I found an original COB dracula x for only $60 made me very happy

[Anonymous No.6715173]

>>6715164
I play to get to them soon. It's because I already have all roms for NES, SNES and GB so I went with them first. I have no idea what to go after the GB ones, so I'll go with the release date.

>>6715160
>Stage 3 is where I gave up on Adventure
I was about to give up. The only reason I didn't is because I read that there was only 4 stages, so might as well suffer and finish it. Glad to know the second game is great.

[Anonymous No.6715174]

Speaking of Adventure Rebirth, can you discuss it on /vr/ since it’s a remake or no?

[Anonymous No.6715179]

>>6715173
>>>6715160 (You)
should be
>>6715165

[Anonymous No.6715181]

>>6715173
Yeah 2nd is a lot of fun and one could even call it the real Castlevania 2. Definitely give adventure rebirth a try though, it’s barely the same game but it basically completely redeems adventure and it’s a lot of fun. You’ll have to pirate it now I think

[Anonymous No.6715191]

>>6715174
It's not a remake. It's completely different from the gameboy game aside from the setting/story.

[Anonymous No.6715197]

>>6715191
Reimagining then? I called it a remake because it’s the same plot. Guess you could say like Star Fox and Star Fox 64

[Anonymous No.6715234]

Dracula X Chronicles > Dracula X > Rondo of Blood

[Anonymous No.6715269]

The only X game that matters.

[Anonymous No.6715276]

>>6715269
Why the fuck did they use digitized actors? Legions could’ve been so good with sprites and maybe better than 3

[Anonymous No.6715283]

>>6715143
It's actually Rondo of Blood but with none of the level design or interesting enemies

Rondo of Blood in Japan is called Dracula X.
This SNES abomination (or Vampire's Kiss in Euroland) is called Dracula XX.
Even the name is a scam to cash on brand recognition from idiots looking forward for the PCE original and its good word of mouth.

[Anonymous No.6715289]

>>6715283
>Rondo
>good level design
Absolute state of NECucks.

[Anonymous No.6715293]

>>6715283
Rondo of Blood in Japan is called Akumajou Dracula X: Chi no Rondo.
Anyway, I think level design is better on Dracula XX.

[Anonymous No.6715295]

>>6715132
You hide behind a computer screen and talk shit about Dracula X
But I guarantee you don't have the balls to talk shit about Dracula X to anyone's face
Come say that shit to my face PUSSY
I'm a big tough guy irl
I will tear your asshole inside out while I fuck your mom and shit on your dad's face at the same time you retard

[Anonymous No.6717679]

>>6715160
I highly, highly recommend Castlevania X68000. It's my favorite of the totally classic Castlevanias, whereas I consider Rondo to be a weird inbetween of the classics and the newer, more metroidy formula.

[Anonymous No.6717680]

>>6715124
How about no.

[Anonymous No.6717690]

>>6717679
I never understood the chronicles praise, it’s a good game and everything but 4 came out before it and was better too, chronicles just feels average

[Anonymous No.6717691]

>>6717679
>I highly, highly recommend Castlevania X68000
Interesting. I have finished Castlevania the Adventure and now I'm playing the second game, I'll go for the x68k after I finish the three game boy games. Thank you for your recommendation.

[Anonymous No.6717707]

>>6717690
Not him, but imo it's the best of the 16-bit CV's. IV is also pretty good though, if a bit too long. The Drac X games and Bloodlines can fuck off.

[Anonymous No.6717714]

>>6717707
I love Bloodlines, probably the most underrated in the whole series along with PoR

[Anonymous No.6717790]

>>6717707
If you actually believe this about X68000, you're outing yourself as a collector fag who hasn't actually played it.

[Anonymous No.6717802]

>>6717790
>collector fag who hasn't actually played it.
Nope, I've beaten it both on PS1 and on the XM6 emulator.
It's the purist to the spirit and design of 1 and 3.

[Anonymous No.6717868]

>>6717714
Nope, Castlevania N64 alongside other 3D are underrated.

[Anonymous No.6717934]

>>6717868
They're underrated because they sucked, lad.

[Anonymous No.6717943]

>>6715295
Post physique

[Anonymous No.6717958]

>>6717934
>sucked
No

[Anonymous No.6717987]

>>6717690
I've only emulated the original x68k version so I can't speak to chronicles, but I think it looks the best of the 16 bit CVs, I vastly prefer the four direction whip to 4's 8-direction limp noodle especially when it comes to the annoying enemies you need in order for upward whipping to have any point, I love the map designs for their verticality, particularly when compared to the obnoxious verticality of, say, Bloodlines, I dig the music, and the jumping feels the best to me compared to any CV before SotN (excluding Maria mode in Rondo). The difficulty is right about perfect for me, too: never feels cheap the way 1 and 3 often did, but not a cakewalk like the Metroidvanias. My only big complaint is that you can't jump off stairs.

[Anonymous No.6718093]

>>6717987
>I've only emulated the original x68k version so I can't speak to chronicles
You played the better version.

[Anonymous No.6718928]

>>6715276
That was the cool part for me. I enjoyed it more because of it. Like Street Fighter: The Movie The game.

[Anonymous No.6719119]

>>6717943
Me irl
Come at me bitch

[Anonymous No.6719997]

>>6715160
adventure rebirth for wii was excellent and thankfully replaces that abomination. also the 2nd GB game is good aside from the final boss (I had to draw up a whole flowchart to beat it)

[Anonymous No.6720016]

>>6715124
i will say this, X68000 is worse, overatted brutally painful and not fun at all, even in arrange mode on that shitty ps1 port.

[Anonymous No.6720017]

>>6715143
>>6715132
>>6715191
>>6715283
>>6717868
Its actually a meme but without the substance and hilarity of point.

>>6717679
>>6717691
No, fuck x68k, it sucks, try to play it with no save states.

[Anonymous No.6720021]

>>6718093
this guy claims X68K sucks ass, >>6720016 but he's only played the Chronicles port? how bad is it? any details?

[Anonymous No.6720112]

Rondo is objectively better.

>>6719119
I'll call you BP cuz there's an oil spill. Ready for Mr. Oilympia? Those gains are 100 ccs of oilyy on a daily baby please.

[Anonymous No.6720220]

>>6720021
>>6720016
>>6720017
X68K has some difficult platforming sections but you also have a lot more health than in other 16-bit Castlevania games. Or enemies do less damage, which ever way you want to look at it. They also move more predictably. Most of the hard platforming sections are places where you fall down and lose time, not die. Would be a pretty easy game if the levels didn't have time limits.

>>6720112
That guy is clearly on synthol AND steroids.

[Anonymous No.6720228]

>>6720220
Ok, that seems to be the original X68K version, but what about the Chronicles version (original and arranged)? i tried to stream the ps1 version via mednafen for 3 hours but it was not a good experience.

Did it on Twitch, my 1st stream.

[Anonymous No.6720336]

One of my favourite CV

[Anonymous No.6720337]

>>6720220
>>6720228

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[Anonymous No.6720389]

>>6720337
Jesus, those sound brutal.

[Anonymous No.6720887]

>>6720021
>Dracula XXMaria

[Anonymous No.6721514]

>>6720220
You clearly haven't played it past the first few levels then. You're given barely any health later on, and the platforming in the clock tower and tower of dolls is some of the worst in the series.

[Anonymous No.6721973]

>>6715124
It was a cash in. SCIV on SNES is so much better than this and it is a total disgrace compared to PCE Rondo. Also, stop shitting up the board.

[Anonymous No.6721975]

>>6721973
No, you man.

[Anonymous No.6722471]

>>6721514
I've played it to completion. Yes, the platforming in the tower of dolls and clocktower can be a pain, particularly the tilting platforms in the clocktower, but my point stands about how missing a jump means falling to a lower platform in 90% of cases.

[Anonymous No.6722542]

>>6715124
Vampire's kiss is worse

[Anonymous No.6722556]

Rondo of Blood is best castlevania. I think Bloodlines is cool too. I don't care for the rest of the series, I don't really like SotN.

[Anonymous No.6722568]

>>6722556
1 > 3 > 68k > 4 > bloodlines > drac x > rondo

[Anonymous No.6722620]

>>6715124
>hit charging axe knight
>his shield flies off right as he's about to hit me
>he just phases through me without doing damage
Is that supposed to happen?

[Anonymous No.6723270]

>>6721973
Shut up gaywad

[Anonymous No.6723304]

>>6722568
For me it's
1 > 4 > Rondo > 3 > Bloodlines > Drac X > 64 > SotN > 2

[Anonymous No.6724007]

>>6722620
Yes. See >>6720359 and also this older worse webm

Enemies don't damage you on contact when they're flashing. This is also true for bosses, which CAN be useful at times.

[Anonymous No.6724032]

>>6724007
But his axe still damages you which is why you have to duck, correct? I can't believe I never knew about that. Can you do this in all CV's that have an axe night that charges with an axe held high that way? This is blowing my mind.

[Anonymous No.6724048]

>>6724032
I don't think the axe can hit you no. I crouch because in this game if you get hit while crouching there is no knockback (very useful against Dracula).

I don't think this is possible in other CV games. DX has plenty of small tricks like that, like using the whip during a backflip allows you to lend on higher platforms

[Anonymous No.6724079]

>>6724048
another trick would be using the item crash to avoid getting hit

[Anonymous No.6724097]

3 > Rondo > 1 > Bloodlines > 4 > Dracula X > 2

I have a baseline interesting in replaying everything 4 and above. Only reason I'm not too sweet on 4 is because I just prefer the simplicity of your main attack in the others.
Haven't touched Adventure or Revenge, but I did play ReBirth and enjoyed it a lot for what it is, would probably slot it in above 4.
Similarly haven't touched any of the Castlevania 1 alternate versions/remakes, let me know if they're any good/provide a unique experience.
Reminder Christopher is the most based Belmont because he kicked Dracula's ass twice, once as a fucking decrepit old bastard.

[Anonymous No.6724098]

>>6715160
Don't forget the Kid Dracula games. They are awesome

[Anonymous No.6724108]

[Anonymous No.6724119]

>>6724007
Oh cool, so it works against other enemies too. I looked at a couple of longplays but didn't see anybody use that trick even though it's so useful.

[Anonymous No.6724130]

>>6724079
Well that's just obvious.

[Anonymous No.6725532]

Classicvania rankings

RoB>4>Bloodlines>Rebirth>II (GB)>III>Chronicles>I>Dracula X>Legends>II (NES)

Adventure,HC, and VK are all awful and not worth ranking

[Anonymous No.6725560]

>>6725532
Of course a Rondofag would put the actually challenging CVs at the end of the list, or call Haunted Castle awful when he's just bad.

Stick to SotN, jarpig.

[Anonymous No.6725601]

>>6725532
This.

[Anonymous No.6725798]

>>6724108
>>6725532
Fast fact: Adventure development was rush during Gameboy debut on Christmas.

[Anonymous No.6727035]

>>6724108
You're supposed to play the X68K version emulated, not Chronicles. see >>6720337

Otherwise, good list, though I'd rate Belmont's Revenge much higher than Legends myself. The former is surpringsly solid, whether you play the b&w or colour version, whether you play a version with the axe or with the cross subweapon.
Legends starts out okay but quickly turns to shit.

[Anonymous No.6727046]

>>6724130
How about moonwalking to avoid bats/medusas spawning on your path ? >>6720354

In some cases they spawn depending on what direction you're looking at, although in other cases they spawn depending on what side of the screen you're at.

[Anonymous No.6727096]

>>6727046
That's a good tip.

[Anonymous No.6727517]

>>6727035
>You're supposed to play the X68K version emulated, not Chronicles
Didn't know about that, thanks. Even though X68K was so brutal I don't want to go back to it ever again

[Anonymous No.6727675]

>>6715124
Better than Rondo of Blood

[Anonymous No.6727687]

>>6715160
Castlevania IV was already a downgrade to appeal newbies with the multi-angled whip and easyass difficulty

[Anonymous No.6727921]

>>6727687
Which is why I found Dracula X even worse.

[Anonymous No.6729538]

>>6715132
Yes, it's not bad, just not great.

[Anonymous No.6729620]

>>6727687
While I agree that IV was made easier, I think it really picks up in difficulty on the last handful of levels, especially the cellar and the A and B stages.
Rondo and Bloodlines are similarly on the easier side with only a few moments of challenge.
I still don't think this makes the game worse than the NES offerings. After replaying the games so much, I actually find IV harder than CV1, the original game becomes a breeze when you know it inside out. IV still has some more tricky stuff, even with the multi whip.
Dracula X and X68000 are the ones that felt more like CVIII in difficulty, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're better than Rondo, IV or Bloodlines.

[Anonymous No.6729683]

Easier doesn’t mean worse. CV IV is pretty balanced on difficulty overall, and the game is very fair, any death is most likely on you.

[Anonymous No.6730272]

>>6727035
what kind of shitter prefers dracula x over rondo?

[Anonymous No.6730286]

>>6730272
it's shitters that prefer the easier rondo to snes drac x though

[Anonymous No.6730801]

>>6730272
Rondo has some shit flat level design, including some levels which feel unfinished, the multi path system is very dumb at times, and it's very unbalanced (holy bible cough)

[Anonymous No.6730925]

>>6730801
They vibin'.

[Anonymous No.6732075]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LuFBlUNoRY
best soundtrack

the rondo version of this song is shit

[Anonymous No.6732138]

>>6732075
Sorry but the CD-DA version is superior in every way possible.

[Anonymous No.6732163]

>>6732075
>SuperFamifart wavetable tootling VS proper studio-produced CD soundtrack

Yeah nah senpai, PCE CD for me.

[Anonymous No.6732171]

>>6732138
the opening version of bloodlines is superior on the snes version
just compare both versions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR0UjAQIX6E
the WOOOOOON at the start dont even let you heard the fucking guitar

meanwhile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LuFBlUNoRY
clear and perfecly audiable

[Anonymous No.6732198]

>>6732171
What >>6732163 said. I don't like SNES chip music.

[Anonymous No.6732213]

>>6715124
But your first stage look like shit and you don't have the best levels.

[Anonymous No.6733331]

>>6732198
Fag with awful taste.