CRT general

[Anonymous No.6709814]

About to get my first CRT, I'm looking for one that isn't heavy and that's less than 23 inches.
Which one should I get and where should I get it?

[Anonymous No.6709819]

>>6709814
You'll probably want a 20", check facebook market, craigslist, etc.

[Anonymous No.6709840]

>rgb

[Anonymous No.6709887]

>>6709840
Nobody said RGB, go soijack off somewhere else ya freak

[Anonymous No.6710014]

>>6709814
If a CRT is all you want there are plenty of good 14" and 20" models that'll work with your /vr/. Personally I'd go for a late-era unit with component input and sometimes even digital TV tuner. Pic related is a Toshiba MW20H63, probably one of the most full featured 20" with component video, DVD player, and VCR capable of recording DTV. I legit use this as a regular TV for evening news and sportsball.

[Anonymous No.6710034]

new apartment setup

[Anonymous No.6710041]

>>6710034
Are those 201s or 301s? If they’re 301s then you’ve got them sideways and it matters. Either way sweet Trinitron.

[Anonymous No.6710048]

>>6710034
>>6710041
Adding on about your speakers, I don’t think any Bose bookshelfs are magnetically shielded, careful with how close you put them to the screen or else you’ll fuck up the picture.

[Anonymous No.6710054]

>>6710034
this >>6710048
I got bookshelves I thought were magnetically shielded and it turned out they weren't. Now I have some very very subtle geometry issues with my PVM.

[Anonymous No.6710065]

>>6710054
Then degauss that mf with something strong.

[Anonymous No.6710136]

>>6710014
>Toshiba MW20H63
Seems good, I cant seem to find, it is it available anywhere online?

[Anonymous No.6710323]

>>6710041
They're not, they're 141s

[Anonymous No.6710359]

>>6710136
I got mine at a garage sale, I'd advise against buying CRTs online unless you're willing to pay more for shipping than the TV itself and possibly dealing with insurance when it breaks in transit. Other models to look out for are the Sony KV-20FS120 and KV-20FV300 as well as mid-2000s JVC.

[Anonymous No.6710371]

>>6710034
Nice microwave.

[Anonymous No.6710995]

>>6710034
What model is that?

[Anonymous No.6711004]

>>6710034
Who told you to point your speakers like that? Or to have them that close to the walls. Fucking amateur hour in here

[Anonymous No.6711027]

>>6710995
Zoom in, it says it right on the front

[Anonymous No.6711028]

>>6711027
>zoom in
What is this boards obsession with zoomers???

[Anonymous No.6711029]

>>6711028
The only one obsessed here is you.

[Anonymous No.6711042]

>>6711029
>anon posts about zoomers unprovoked
>”why did you do that?”
>”because you’re obsessed”
What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.6711131]

No purist shit please.
What is emulation like on a CRT?
I've only done OG hardware on crt and emulation on LCD.
but if I were to plug an emulation box into a crt for everything else would I gain anything from it? visuals would be close to original minus emulation glitches? I get there would still be input lag. Would I be able to use a light gun this way?

[Anonymous No.6711152]

>>6711131
Yeah emulating off a Wii with component aint so bad outside of emulation errors

[Anonymous No.6711181]

>>6711152
neato thanks. Wii U should work just as well right?

[Anonymous No.6711202]

>>6711181
Never tried it personally, I know it has component output. The wii has native 480i output, but I think the Wii U tries upscaling to 480p or 720p, but I'm not sure. Someone else could probably answer that.

[Anonymous No.6711594]

>>6711131
seems fine to me when i hook my comp. up to the crt. via hdmi>scart.

[Anonymous No.6711602]

>>6709814
good luck finding a light CRT...

[Anonymous No.6711696]

>>6711602
t. dyel

[Anonymous No.6711697]

>>6710054
>>6710065

>Thinking about that degauss button on my old CRT monitor and that satifying "gonnnnggg" sound

Why actually did normal CRT TVs not have such a button? Regular degaussing is always good.

[Anonymous No.6711707]

>>6711697
TVs did it automatically on startup. PC monitors were often left powered on (or on standby with voltage still supplied to the control boards) and usually have a mechanical power button that would wear out if you kept toggling it.

[Anonymous No.6712278]

I picked up a 27 inch wega the other day and I noticed some weird stuff with it.

When I turn the brightness up higher than about 50 it gets brighter sure, but it gives the whites a pinkish tint and the black blank video screen is tinted pink as well.

If I turn up the contrast ("picture") beyond about 60 the screen deos some weird color shit where it will have a reddish hue or a greenish hue whenever I open fceugx on the wii. I know it isn't the wii because I tested with a pvm and that didn't occur.

Also what kind of settings should I use for the video? Is it worth it to get a remote to use the service menu (upper pin amp needs adjusted)? Is it worth it to rgb mod it?

[Anonymous No.6712309]

>>6712278
Sounds like capacitors going bad. With old TVs and electronics in general it helps to desolder all of them and put new ones in. Same specs, of course.

[Anonymous No.6712315]

>>6712278
>hue
>hue
found the brazilian

[Anonymous No.6712320]

>>6712309
For a 10 dollar crt I don't love it enough to replace the caps quite yet, I'll just tone down the picture settings so no wonkiness occurs.

[Anonymous No.6712459]

If anyone from the other archived PVM thread is here, thanks for the advice. The JVC D-series TV I picked up works perfectly.

[Anonymous No.6712536]

>>6712459
It wasn't me

[Anonymous No.6712537]

>>6711042
Are you retarded? He said to zoom in the picture to read the TV brand.

[Anonymous No.6712616]

>>6712459
nice anon, any pics to share?

[Anonymous No.6712628]

[Anonymous No.6712646]

>>6712628
cute

[Anonymous No.6712651]

>>6712459
Nice. You did well, anon.

[Anonymous No.6712658]

>>6712537
explain

[Anonymous No.6712849]

[Anonymous No.6712880]

[Anonymous No.6712882]

[Anonymous No.6713248]

would this 70khz piece of shit be good for emulation?

[Anonymous No.6713252]

[Anonymous No.6713256]

>>6713252
>midi controller for ants
you wanna know how I know you don't use rich harmony in your work?

[Anonymous No.6713376]

>>6713248
better than an LCD

[Anonymous No.6713449]

>>6711181
Wii U has some problems with resolution, aspect ratio and brightness. Maybe homebrew software can fix this but I only have experience with an ummodded console plugged in via Scart. Depending on what you're playing, I'd probably stick to a regular Wii or find a way to hook up a PC or raspberry pi. Remember there exist CRT PC monitors as well.

[Anonymous No.6713518]

Check out my CRT LOL

[Anonymous No.6713543]

>>6712882
Is there a good way to get these deep saturated colors you see in a lot of old screen grabs?

[Anonymous No.6713546]

>>6713543
Idk why I replied to that random post. Was suppose to be a general question.

[Anonymous No.6713650]

>>6713543
RGB mod

[Anonymous No.6713665]

>>6709819
This, i have a 15'' and it's plenty for me, so a 20'' is probably enough for most

[Anonymous No.6713670]

>>6712658
based retard

[Anonymous No.6713695]

Is it possible to rgb mod an older set like this?

[Anonymous No.6713715]

>>6713650
I don't know if RGB provides it. I've never seen any RGB pictures that look as deep as the shit you see in magazines. Actually judging by the pics on here it's quite the opposite. My PVM can get really really bright beautiful high contrast colors, but it's never deep and warm. Honestly haven't seen anything like it and I wonder if it's something done in post.

[Anonymous No.6713721]

What is a NEC XM37 supposed to take for sync on the two different RGB inputs? TTL or 75 ohm? Does it matter? Is VGA sync TTL?

[Anonymous No.6713730]

>>6713543
Are you looking for something like this?

[Anonymous No.6713735]

>>6711181
A big reason why Wii is still recommended for CRT gaming is that it can (unlike OG Xbox, for example) output 240p resolution. For some reason this was cut from Wii U, defaulting to 480i instead.

[Anonymous No.6713748]

>>6713730
I can get a picture like that if I crank the chroma and contrast settings of my PVM. If you take a look though you'll notice in that original pic the colors are way darker, but it seems more like richness than simply turning the brightness down. All the beta footage looked like this, but when the beta leaked it looks identical to what we have today. Yet at E3, in magazines, etc you see the same dark rich screengrabs. I kinda wonder if it was done in post or if it was just because of shitty VHS tapes.

[Anonymous No.6713762]

>>6713748
Oh yeah, I see what you mean. Something like dark spots getting way darker, but if an object is bright enough it stays the same, instead of the entire screen darkening or brightening everything equally, combined with oversaturation. I guess if I fiddle around with shaders enough that I'll eventually get something that's remotely similar, but honestly just like getting NES Mario colors exactly right there's always something off.

[Anonymous No.6713786]

>>6713695
yes, because CRTs are naturally RGB devices, i don't know what will be required to mod a TV without an OSD though, maybe look into how OSDs are integrated into other sets (OSD being on-screen-display, the system which draws things like channel number, volume, teletext/cc, etc on the screen, that's all straight RGB which is the basis of most RGB mods)

[Anonymous No.6713805]

>>6713695
A set that old likely has a live chassis. I'd stay from modding it.

[Anonymous No.6713823]

>>6712616
Based and redpilled

[Anonymous No.6713830]

>>6709814
holy fuck i remember having that tv as a kid

[Anonymous No.6713852]

>>6713830
My younger brother had one of those. You must be a zoomie.

[Anonymous No.6713858]

>>6713852
yeah, 2nd/3rd world to be more specific

[Anonymous No.6713994]

>>6713252
that particular (9"?) pvm is a tad small for my taste but stiil based af

[Anonymous No.6714050]

>>6713994
Looks like 14 inch, I have the same one. I really which it were easier to find 20+ inch PVMs without paying like 600 dollars on ebay desu

[Anonymous No.6714094]

>>6713449
>>6711594
thanks guys. PC it is. Too bad because Wii U supports so many systems.

[Anonymous No.6714104]

>>6713256
Not him, but I think that's a Korg Minilogue. A synth, not a MIDI controller.

[Anonymous No.6714105]

>>6713248
Yeah. Even these low end CRT monitors are a huge improvement over any LCD. The higher end stuff is there if you want something larger with higher resolutions and refresh ratea. I got this one from work, it's not as good as my 19" diamondtron, but it still looks great with an active hdmi to vga converter.

[Anonymous No.6714108]

>>6714050
looking at my 14" for comparison, and yeah, your right.

well we have to make do with what we can atm, although some decent sets show up now and again on ebay.

i found a used 14" sony pvm from a studio equipment website for 14000 so consdiering that id say 600 was a steal for a 20"+

listed here is a sony bvm 14f5e for 400 i found,
so for an extra 200 for 20"+ dosent seem so bad to me but eurofag so..

ebay link:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SONY-BVM-14F5E-retro-gaming-monitor-4397-hours-800-TVL/164320502832?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3D6ab12b86a1f74711adc6ad67613bbf2d%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D15%26mehot%3Dnone%26sd%3D164320502832%26itm%3D164320502832%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057%26brand%3DSony&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3Ae093d8ab-dcad-11ea-912c-74dbd180b280%7Cparentrq%3Ae33872dc1730ad417939d438fffff390%7Ciid%3A1

[Anonymous No.6714112]

>>6714105
>NEC
>low end
NEC made really high-quality stuff.

[Anonymous No.6714113]

>>6714108
*1400

[Anonymous No.6714118]

>>6714105
fuck that looks nice and crisp.

[Anonymous No.6714146]

>>6714118
To be fair, it is running in dolphin at 4*native internal res, and then downsampled to 1280*960.

[Anonymous No.6714302]

>>6711594
Don't do this because it cannot display 240p, only 480i, which would fuck up any 8 or 16 bit game

[Anonymous No.6714370]

>>6710014
I'm real nostalgic for those big all-in-ones with the VCR and DVD. My grandparents owned this exact Akai model for years, and I have fond memories of playing Smash on it.

[Anonymous No.6714375]

>>6709814
>Which one should I get and where should I get it?
Assuming you’re not constrained by money, get yourself a Profeel or one of the PVMs built around a Profeel chassis.

Things look very sexy when running pre-Dreamcast content.

[Anonymous No.6714380]

Just pulled this 80lb UNIT out of storage and powered it on after months of spoiling myself with 4K. That contrast, that vibrance, that 85Hz, I don't want to go back to 2048x1536 but I also reminded myself how shitty IPS looks.
WHERE IS MY MICROLED MONITOR?!

[Anonymous No.6714618]

>>6714302
>fuck up
how exactly? (genuinely interested) they run and look fine to me.

[Anonymous No.6714620]

>>6714618
>how exactly
By showing their power level and then bumping dead threads to pretend they didnt

[Anonymous No.6714635]

>>6714620
...What?

[Anonymous No.6714637]

>>6714380
>Dimandtron
Based

I really like they way that set looks. I've been thinking of picking up a VGA monitor, but I already own a 20L5 and the only system I own that would really benefit from it is my Dreamcast which I already use over 31khz RGB.

[Anonymous No.6714728]

>>6714637
I was using this on my PC for modern games and emulators for years but went LCD since everything went toward forced widescreen. I love the 4 1080p monitors in one I get with 4K but IPS leaves a lot to be missed.

[Anonymous No.6714896]

>>6714620
have zero issues

[Anonymous No.6714941]

>>6713994
>>6714050

It's a 14" but just looks small in a TATE setup. 20" is my ideal size but this is my only PVM.

[Anonymous No.6714946]

>>6714941
hey man, a PVM is a PVM!
much jelly.
how much she set you back anon?

[Anonymous No.6714950]

>>6713256
>>6714104

Correct. A tiny little synth with a big sound. My midi sequencers are out of frame.

[Anonymous No.6714962]

>>6714946
Amazingly, I got the very last affordable PVM in my city. I checked CL every day for a couple of years and honestly didn't think I would ever find one. I actually only paid $50 CAD for this one. This was about 5 years ago give or take.
If it broke I would happily pay $500 CAD for another.

[Anonymous No.6714976]

>>6714962
I KNEW you'd say something like that!
F*** me, i hope you appreciate your good fortune, Anon.

[Anonymous No.6714994]

>>6709814
Holy shit I just saw that Steven McQueen unit on reddit the other day.

[Anonymous No.6715028]

>>6714618
>>6714896
For one, that looks like an hd widescreen set so it already line doubles, so there is no way to display 240p or even 480i natively on it. But for 240p specifically, all non-specialized downscalars will turn it into 480i meaning no black scanlines, no progressive fields for the image, completely fucked picture.

[Anonymous No.6715029]

>>6714994
>reddit
gross

[Anonymous No.6715038]

>>6715029
They're good for tech help. Except for the purists an the faggots who who ignore your question completely an then say some bullshit like just don't do that lole.

[Anonymous No.6715050]

>>6715028
its not a HD set (scart, coax, av)
image fidelity is more than adequate for my needs. have yet to witness any flickering or interference but only had this set up 2 days to be honest. but have tried a BUNCH of roms on mame and other emulators.
for 15 credits im happy with the HD<SCART unit.

[Anonymous No.6715064]

>>6715038
i just cant fathom using some pree-teen infested CCP site.

[Anonymous No.6715069]

>>6714976
I recognize and appreciate it so much. The guy who sold it to me kind of had the same vibe, like I had better recognize how lucky I was.
That being said, I need to mention that I enjoy my consumer grade trinitrons nearly as much. No one is really missing out by not having a pro grade CRT in my opinion. I use S-video on my PVM and am more than happy.

[Anonymous No.6715080]

>>6715064
Alt account using fake email generator
Mainly talk in pms


Simple as that

[Anonymous No.6715089]

>>6715069
cool story bro.
Yeah i feel you, my CRT cost me nothing so i cant justify the price for the visual improvements of a B/PVM. Plus i have the benefit for having RGB input as standard on our sets (mine was manufactured in Europe)


again, your a lucky anon. like id be surprised if you hadn't used up all your cosmic luck for the rest of your life.

[Anonymous No.6715094]

>>6709814
Depends on what you can get. Lots of people have added new imputs to old tvs, depending on what chips are in it. Also there are TVs that the tube can be driven by off-the-shelf arcade monitor boards. If you have space to work on things, and even basic electronic skills, that's a real option. Otherwise you'll have to hope for something with component in at your local resale shop. Unless you live someplace where you can find tvs with scart (lucky bastard).

[Anonymous No.6715096]

>>6715080
that's fair man.
i recognize it has its applications for some but with all the shit the CCP has pulled, i just can't, in all good conscience, use it.

[Anonymous No.6715113]

Due to the presence of a single outlet in my vidya dungeon, my TV is plugged into a power strip which must be turned off and unplugged from the wall after each session. The thing is, every time I power on the strip, I can hear an electrical buzz inside the TV, very similar to the sound it makes when I actually turn it on. Am I potentially damaging it or shortening its lifespan? AFAIK, my childhood TVs were always constantly plugged in to the wall, so I never encountered this back then.

[Anonymous No.6715119]

>>6715069
Yeah. I just got a 14m2u last weekend from a video production company in my state for 200 dollars. I was shocked that there even existed a pvm in South Dakota anymore, literal flyover country.

[Anonymous No.6715121]

>>6715113
Mine does the same and it also makes a "reverse" of that sound where it drops into the range of my hearing and fizzes out. It's most likely the high voltage transformers powering up, the ones that convert line voltage to the 12V or 5V needed to run the control boards.

[Anonymous No.6715125]

>>6712278
>rgb

[Anonymous No.6715141]

>>6712616
>use stickers like a tranny
>stickers are all incel shit
weird messages there retard-kun

[Anonymous No.6715147]

>>6715141
Good job i couldn't give a streak of hot piss about your opinions then, Anon.

[Anonymous No.6715152]

>>6715147
Cared enough to reply

[Anonymous No.6715153]

>>6715147
Cope. You put that out there for us to see.

[Anonymous No.6715182]

>>6715152
this is true.
>>6715153
this is also true (although im not sure what else you expect to happen with a reply?)

anywho, i like the stickers so they're going nowhere, son.

[Anonymous No.6715260]

>>6715089
Don't jinx me bro!
I'd like to think my luck comes from doing something noble in a past life. The luck probably runs out the next time around though..


and yeah, you have even less to gain when jumping to a PVM.

>>6715119
That's rad! I hope you are enjoying it.

[Anonymous No.6715302]

>>6715260
kek
well, you're a nice anon and i suspect, secretly, that you deserve it.

i figured as much.

[Anonymous No.6715309]

>>6715050
There was unironically maybe only the slimfit samsung's for HDCRT's in the uk, ours were all scart and pretty common since the late 90's, love the yank meme where they see a widescreen model and start screaming about muh 1080i.

[Anonymous No.6715337]

>>6715309
In the US widescreen was synonymous with HD. I've actually never seen a regular analog TV that wasn't 4:3.

[Anonymous No.6715353]

>>6715309
kek
Wait, did we not get the Sony Wega 34XS995? (HDMI input)

[Anonymous No.6715375]

found one of those Dell E770s for 10 doubloons, is it worth it?
I want to do that voodoo hoodoo 240p with black frame insertion or whatever the fuck that shit mentioned in the wiki was.

[Anonymous No.6715383]

>>6715050
all power to you man, but emulating games through that downscalar is basically negating the benefits of using an SD CRT, because it is no longer displaying native resolutions of the games. IMO it's worse than just LCD emulating because that can at least mimic a 240p raster, the downscalar turns it into a completely different visual entirely

[Anonymous No.6715403]

>>6715353
We never got any HD trinitrons, only SCART 16:9 trinitrons, yanks never got standard widescreens, we never got HD widescreens apart from the aforementioned samsung models. It's pretty funny but the UK adopted widescreen as normal in like 1999 for new big tv's so when the HD age came it was plasmas for us.
>>6715337
Opposite here desu, never seen a widescreen that was HD.
>>6715375
if it works yeah.

[Anonymous No.6715407]

>>6715383
ah ok, i understand what you mean.
looked into how to get 240p but involved old graphics cards and or crt_emu software and i cba with that (obv cant wack a graphocs card im the ol laptop) could go the Pi4 or Wii route but that would involve money id rather spend on other things. i dont hoook up my laptop to the CRT often enough to warrant any of that. its just for when im not using consoles.

appreciate the info though as keen to learn about this stuff (as mentioned only had the CRT 2 days)

[Anonymous No.6715413]

>>6715403
i see. shame really as i do like the idea and utility of HD trinnies.

[Anonymous No.6715462]

>>6715413
Honestly I don't mind those things eat a room and really if you're going to use anything HD you may as well use a plasma.

[Anonymous No.6715874]

What is a good and affordable displayport to vga adapter? I tried to look for some info but all I can find is reddit shills trying to make me buy an expensive Sunix or Delock shit.
I don't need a high end one, I just want to do the 3840x480 trick for retroarch, and play older games at 640x480@120/800x600@100

[Anonymous No.6715895]

>>6715874
This is what I use and it goes up to 2048x1536 85Hz. People on that one HF thread shilled it and it did what it did at a decent price.

[Anonymous No.6715902]

>>6712616
>At least TEN Infowars stickers

[Anonymous No.6715914]

>>6715902
they come in a big pack...

[Anonymous No.6716861]

>>6710014
until a few months ago i had a cable box with both HDMI and component out, and sometimes i'd watch the 480i-only channels on my CRT for a couple hours at a time. but we had to trade in those boxes for newer ones that only have HDMI out.
i want to go back.

[Anonymous No.6717031]

>>6716861
had a look online for old units anon?
ebay, gumtree, tradeit ect. ect.

how come you were forced to trade em in?

[Anonymous No.6717039]

>>6717031
i moved and comcast doesn't let you move boxes between houses, they won't activate it at the new residence for you. i can't imagine they'd activate one bought secondhand either.

[Anonymous No.6717113]

>>6717039
shiiit.
well there's always the Wii route?
plenty of instructional videos and information online and they can be picked up pretty cheaply.
i just got a cheap chink HDMI<SCART(RGB) converter online, works fine for me, no noticeable flickering or visual distortions.
not 280p of anything but as aforementioned, good enough for my needs.(playing emulators on the CRT)

[Anonymous No.6717116]

>>6710034
>Pinter's Algebra
>Lay's Analysis
I think we went to the same school, anon.

[Anonymous No.6717220]

I got a trinitron kv-29somethingsomething that has a vertical "barrel" slightly left from the middle of the screen. Now I'm not too sensitive to these things but it is very visible and sometimes a bit distracting on some horizontally scrolling stuff since the image kinda bulges there. Is it just caps going bad or is there something else I could do about this?

[Anonymous No.6717226]

>>6717220
>kv
>the kissless virgin bought a kv model tv
Can’t make it up yall

[Anonymous No.6717278]

>>6717226
>bought
People pretty much pay you to come and dispose of their old crt's anon.

[Anonymous No.6717460]

>>6717226
>yall

[Anonymous No.6717562]

>>6716861
If you're just watching TV get a HDMI to component converter. Yes there will be some lag but once again you're watching TV so lag doesn't matter.

[Anonymous No.6717574]

>>6712278
>rgb

[Anonymous No.6717576]

>>6717574
not an argument

[Anonymous No.6717578]

I fucking hate the shells of old CRT's. Cheap silver plastic shit. If you could replace them with some kino white or something it would be cool

[Anonymous No.6717581]

>>6717578
Silver shit was a thing in the early 2000s. All black from the 90s or woodgrain paneling from the 80s is a lot better.

[Anonymous No.6717628]

>>6717578
3D print your own case and transfer the guts into it.

[Anonymous No.6717650]

>>6717578
silver was only really a thing in the early-mid 2000's, before then it was beige, after then it was black

[Anonymous No.6717735]

>>6713786
>>6714637
>>6715089
>>6713650
>>6713695
>>6713715
>rgb

[Anonymous No.6717846]

>>6717735
>LGBT

[Anonymous No.6718091]

>>6714896
>infowars
absolutely based madlad

[Anonymous No.6718102]

Is there a wiki or something anywhere that organizes the data on adding RGB to CRTs by abusing the jungle-ic? I know the info is in the shumps forum, but it's literally digging through shitty forum posts to get to it.

https://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=56155

[Anonymous No.6718394]

>>6718102
It's going to be a bit different for every TV, so it's best to just know the general process and have some basic electronics skills to figure out how to adapt it for your TV. Feel free to ask questions here if you want and I'll try to help.

[Anonymous No.6718873]

>>6713786
>>6714637
>>6715089
>>6713650
>>6713695
>>6713715
>rgb

[Anonymous No.6718964]

>>6712616
Let us see the stickers on the other side of your laptop screen.

[Anonymous No.6719279]

Thoughts on B&O MX4000?

[Anonymous No.6719326]

>>6711594
wtf am i lookin at here?

[Anonymous No.6719328]

>>6711697
some have it, i have a mitsubishi that has one

[Anonymous No.6719340]

>>6719326
search :DONT HUG ME IM SCARED

good luck delving into them,

its from the computer episode

[Anonymous No.6719343]

>>6718964
y?

[Anonymous No.6719421]

>>6713252
Isn't this terrible for that monitor?

[Anonymous No.6719429]

>>6713543
Isn't this just from it being a scanned image from a magazine? I feel like you're not taking the journey that picture went on to get to being posted here.

[Anonymous No.6719439]

>>6714896
Except for how retarded you. IRL frog posting?

[Anonymous No.6719467]

>>6719439
>visits 4chan
>complains about frogs

retard

[Anonymous No.6719476]

>>6712315
kek

[Anonymous No.6719481]

>>6719467
4chan is older then unfunny hijacked frog memes

[Anonymous No.6719490]

>>6717581
I have a KV manufactured February 2000 that is black.
Does this confirm that 2000 is in fact the last year of the 90s?

[Anonymous No.6719494]

>>6718873
>VGA
>Component
>HDMI
>SCART
>S-Video
Chadposite is the only acceptable choice

[Anonymous No.6719510]

>>6709814

Hey guys. I have a Sony WEGA 34XBR970 Trinitron HDTV. I haven't used it really for the past 7 years, but It was my main tv from 2007-2013 with my PS3.

What should I do with it? I'm getting a new place, so I need to know if I should keep it or get rid of it.

[Anonymous No.6719519]

>>6713518

i got it.

[Anonymous No.6719536]

>>6719510
trash it

[Anonymous No.6719538]

>>6713518
Nice emu shader faggot

[Anonymous No.6719539]

>>6719510
if you don't want it anymore, put it on craigslist

[Anonymous No.6719554]

>>6719539

That's what I might have to end up doing. Are they sought after?

[Anonymous No.6719561]

>>6719554
they're worse for 15kHz video (480i and 240p) than standard definition sets, which alienates a lot of hipsters that want a CRT for retro gaymen, but some people still appreciate them as they are, so people in your area may or may not want it.

[Anonymous No.6719570]

>>6719561

Yeah I've heard that and it's completely false. My NES, SNES, GameCube and N64 games look amazing on it. Much better than my 20" flatscreen CRT Toshiba, that has component inputs btw.

[Anonymous No.6719678]

>>6719570
Retard

[Anonymous No.6719728]

>>6719510
CRT HDTVs are trash. Can't play /vr/ without lag and artifacts like analog CRTs and obsolete for modern HD video. Put it up for $30 on Craigslist and if nobody takes it by the time you move out leave it on the curb for trashman to take care of.
Or do the responsible thing and dump it at your nearest erecycler.

[Anonymous No.6719763]

>>6719494

[Anonymous No.6719769]

>>6719728
>Or do the responsible thing and dump it at your nearest erecycler
most "recycled" CRTs sit in a warehouse without being dismantled or recycled in any way so it's not really better than leaving it on the curb

[Anonymous No.6719783]

>>6719769
Depends on where you live, my local erecycler has multiple people ripping all sorts of things apart.

[Anonymous No.6719901]

>>6709814
Anyone here prefer somewhat fuzzy images to crisp clean ones? I also noticed in a lot of magazine pictures of games the image is somewhat fuzzy. Am I tripping balls or something?

I find myself playing my shitty consumer RF TV over my PVM a lot for early 3d games. I recently got pic related because I was sick of playing with the cable, but the image is way too clean. I guess before the dot crawl and light amount of noise somewhat dithered the image and hid a lot of the faults. Now it kinda feels like I'm on a regular LCD monitor with more colors.

[Anonymous No.6720201]

>>6719901
I definitely don't prefer a fuzzy image, but I think composite or lower tvl sets look just fine. I think RF is the only signal that's too low quality for me.

t. 20L5 owner

[Anonymous No.6720231]

>>6713518
holy shit that's huge, what does it weigh?

[Anonymous No.6720401]

does anyone have any experience with rear projection crt's? im an aussie and most crt i can find can only get 50hz but i found a rear projection that can get up to 60 that could help if i wanna use the GameCube or imported consoles. is the picture quality decent or should i just stick to 50hz?

[Anonymous No.6720439]

>>6720401
the power input frequency has no bearing on a tv's ability to handle 60Hz/NTSC video (unless the set is like 70 years old)
most tvs in au will only list 50Hz power support because au mains ac is 50Hz
anything from the 90's or newer should support both PAL and NTSC video, so don't worry about it

[Anonymous No.6720580]

>>6720401
Rear projection tvs tend to be awful, just import a nice crt from japan or the US.

[Anonymous No.6720584]

>>6720401
Rear projection tvs are absolutely terrible. You look at the size and then you peepee gets big, but its all downhill from there.

[Anonymous No.6720613]

>>6720401
these >>6720580 >>6720584
I remember back in the 90s I'd see them occasionally and was confused by how supremely shit they were. It looked like they were broken or something. The picture was tinted red and washed out. An anon in a previous thread months ago did say he might've found one that isn't shit though, but the thing was so absurdly high end (out of the consumers reach) that they're basically impossible to find.

If you want a gigantic image for whatever reason maybe just get an actual CRT projector and find a wall you can use. That probably also looks shit to though.

[Anonymous No.6720617]

>>6720613

[Anonymous No.6720619]

>>6720613
Whoops >>6720617
It was actually this one.

[Anonymous No.6720659]

>>6720619
>1200 line CRT RP
could be fun to play with for some higher res uses
one advantage CRT projectors have is that they're essentially 3 black and white tubes, so there's no traditional colour mask, rather you have 3 wholly-tinted images converging over one-another on the screen, in theory this should make for a pretty smooth, screen-door-less image

[Anonymous No.6720787]

>finally get a good consumer crt
>barely play games on it
At least my old anime/cartoons look amazing

[Anonymous No.6720918]

Should I get this? Google says it weighs anywhere from 75-165 pounds, seems really fucking massive. But for $40 it seems like a steal. The right speaker on my shitty 21" Apex just went so I need a new one anyways, but idk, I feel like it might be just a little too big

[Anonymous No.6720934]

>>6720918
Are you a dyel? 165 is nothing and it even has handles.

[Anonymous No.6720968]

>>6720934
dyel?

[Anonymous No.6721009]

>>6720934
transporting it regularly once covid ends is my only concern, plus I also don't even know if this will survive on my desk in both its weight and width

[Anonymous No.6721065]

>>6721009
How often do you plan on moving?

[Anonymous No.6721078]

>>6721065
Really just for melee tourneys on weekends, otherwise it'll obviously stay in the same place at all times

[Anonymous No.6721083]

>>6720968
Obviously never browsed /fit.

Do You Even Lift?

[Anonymous No.6721085]

>>6721078
imagine the smell

[Anonymous No.6721164]

>>6721083
oh, that's become an initialism without me realising it
people are so lazy

[Anonymous No.6721183]

>>6721078
27" is way too big for a tournament TV. Back in the days of LAN parties 17" CRTs were the limit and most people brought 15". If you were a richfag you had a LCD.

[Anonymous No.6721206]

>>6721183
>way too big
I thought so too, I can't even really picture like how big of a CRT that is. It just seems like such an incredible deal

[Anonymous No.6721329]

>>6721206
nothing besides free is a good deal

[Anonymous No.6721629]

>>6715182
enjoy being a cel

[Anonymous No.6721637]

>>6721329
Hasn't been true for years. All the good sets Trinitrons, PVMs, JVC, etc are bought up by scalpers. Massive sets like that might be safer, because it's harder for scalpers to resell. Unless you're willing to constantly surf the web for deals months on end or explore really weird options like electronic recycling depots, you wont get a decent set for free.

[Anonymous No.6721860]

>>6715119
I emailed some more people around here and a guy has a couple 13" monitors. Worth picking up? Largely depends on the price, but these video productions companies don't seem to give them away desu.

50 bucks or less worth it? I already have a 14 inch and would preferably have a 20 inch but having another can't hurt I suppose.

[Anonymous No.6721864]

>>6721637
Do you live in a 3rd world or a flyover? There are still free Trinitrons and D series everywhere here in Cali.

[Anonymous No.6721878]

>>6721637
I never see free crts anywhere, usually low amounts like 10 or 20 bucks but never free.

[Anonymous No.6721882]

>>6721164
Complaining about initialisms while using contractions... YOU are the lazy one.

[Anonymous No.6721893]

>>6721864
>Do you live in a 3rd world
>Chicago
Yes.

I think they're all gone because melee is fucking huge here.

>>6721878
Even I can find them for free, but never good shit. If I ever go to anything with electronic recycling (depots or fairs) I'm bound to see 5-10 CRT TVs. Never on craiglist though unless it's a gigantic bulky set that the owner would have to pay to get rid of.

[Anonymous No.6722034]

>>6721878
Try Facebook Market and don't search for obvious shit like "CRT" or "retro"

[Anonymous No.6722367]

>>6720918
ask for the model number and look it up should geta much more accurate weight.I'd guess 100 or a little less for a curved front crt.

[Anonymous No.6722686]

>>6722034
Found a free black trinitron aka no component but it was massive. I have yet to see a free set with component, aka good shit.

[Anonymous No.6722690]

>>6720918
It probably isn't 165 lbs, probably more so 100.

Just hauled a 27 inch 100 lb trinitron up to my apartment the other day up 3 flights of stairs, you can do it. Hardest part was opening the door with the key and everything solo because that requires deadlifting it everytime.

[Anonymous No.6722713]

>>6722034
>>6722686
Is component an instant green light to buy it?
I'm totally new to crt hunting and I only ever hear people talk about Sony and PVM's.
I'm also really cautious about overscan and don't know which models are less notorious about that.

[Anonymous No.6722790]

>>6722713
Yes

[Anonymous No.6722919]

>>6720918
i used to pack my 27" rca around to halo lan games. I was 6 foot 140 pound skelly. you should be fine

[Anonymous No.6722924]

>>6722919
>6 foot 140 pound
Hello Mr. Skeltal, I bet that TV weighed more than you.

[Anonymous No.6722927]

>>6722919
>>6722924
>samefagging your own anecdote
the absolute state of (You)

[Anonymous No.6722930]

>>6722927
Try again

[Anonymous No.6722932]

>>6722930
Nice try ;)

[Anonymous No.6722937]

>>6722930
>>6722932
You're both clearly the same person

[Anonymous No.6722939]

>>6722937
Yeah, you wish you were the same person as me lmfao

[Anonymous No.6722941]

>>6722939

[Anonymous No.6722942]

>>6722713
Maybe. If it's an hdcrt, stay away.

[Anonymous No.6722957]

>>6722937
wrong

[Anonymous No.6722958]

>>6722957
Even your typing is alike

[Anonymous No.6722968]

>>6722958
wrong

[Anonymous No.6722973]

>>6713786
>>6714637
>>6715089
>>6713650
>>6713695
>>6713715
>rgb

[Anonymous No.6722975]

>>6722968
thank you for confirming

[Anonymous No.6722984]

>>6722975
wrong

[Anonymous No.6722989]

>>6722984
lol thanks, keep giving me something to respond to, it just increases my post count

[Anonymous No.6723453]

>>6709814
Get one with a component video input. You can get a scart transcoder cheap and then you'll have lossless RGB. Any major brand is fine, you DO NOT have to get a Sony and you DO NOT have to get a stupid broadcast monitor. A consumer TV is fine, in fact they have many advantages.

[Anonymous No.6723778]

I bought a 9 inch pvm on ebay for $150 and I don't regret it one bit. It's really nice having it on my computer desk, fuck you guys

[Anonymous No.6723798]

>>6723778
>nine inch
Ha, retard. I got me a 20 inch trinitron for free and rgb modded it. About $145 cheaper than what you did, with the same results

[Anonymous No.6723815]

>>6715260
post more of your cozy set up stoneranon

[Anonymous No.6724004]

>>6723798
Yeah I will admit it was pretty stupid of me but I have no soldering skills

[Anonymous No.6724276]

I finally got around to picking one up a few months ago and it was great until the picture crapped out a few nights ago.

[Anonymous No.6724906]

>>6720659
too bad they look like dogshit in reality

[Anonymous No.6725379]

>>6723798
Not him but I got a 27 inch wega the other day and am considering rgb modding it but I already bought a rgb scart to component transcoder so it probably isn't worth it. Just waiting for slow as fuck new zealand post to get it to Burger land.

How difficult is it to lift the legs on the jungle chip without a dedicated desoldering gun? I want or get into console modding beyond modchips but difficult stuff like desoldering without fancy tools intimidates me.

[Anonymous No.6726379]

>>6725379
Why are you lifting pins on the jungle chip? There's usually better ways to do it.

[Anonymous No.6726637]

hey /vr/ been a few years
does this board still have a /bst/?
I want to offload my pvm to some nigger who will actually use it

[Anonymous No.6726641]

>>6726637
Long gone.

[Anonymous No.6726648]

>>6726641
well shit /bst/ we hardly knew ye
if anyone ITT is roundaparts Fayetteville, NC I have a PVM 20M2U that works great
I'll monitor this thread til it dies then it's going on CL

[Anonymous No.6726696]

Is it a mere coincidence that the world lost its soul when crts went out of fashion?

[Anonymous No.6726704]

>>6712616
>Infowar shit everywhere

I don't care about your political leanings, but Alex Jones is babies first conspiracy dump. Why don't you look at his record where he is wrong 99% of the time. Remember how the Russians were attacking us during Y2K? What a joke

[Anonymous No.6726864]

>>6726696
No. Their usage just coincided with you growing up.

[Anonymous No.6727043]

>>6726696
Yet people will say the world lost its soul when color TV happened.

[Anonymous No.6727659]

>>6724906
normal CRT projectors are pretty nice
... well as far as i remember, the only time i've ever watched a movie on a projector i know for sure was a CRT one was when i watched Cats & Dogs (2001) on a cruise ship in 2002, so uh, not the best source

[Anonymous No.6728113]

Pretty cool that even budget PC CRTs had so many features.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lShNa9QNXzE

[Anonymous No.6728375]

>>6719510
list it on facebook as "RARE L@@K RETRO HD TV FOR RETRO GAMES - $180"

ez pz

[Anonymous No.6728549]

>>6727043
The world lost its soul when the telephone replaced the written word.

[Anonymous No.6728821]

I have a CRT that will be blurry as shit but the on screen menus are clear as day. Sometimes a slap to the chassis fixes it. What gives?

[Anonymous No.6728828]

>>6728821
Percussive maintenance can sometimes make failing capacitors temporarily work again.

[Anonymous No.6728834]

>>6728828
Thanks. I knew it couldnt be the tube itself because the menu is always perfect no matter what the image looks like.

[Anonymous No.6728857]

I'm having a recurring problem with my CRT. Sometimes the display wavers in and out, before expanding suddenly and the picture cuts to a black screen while the computer still runs. I played around with the settings but the resolution has no effect on this. It might be approaching the end of its lifespan, but I wanted to check if anyone else had this issue.

[Anonymous No.6728863]

>>6728857
Does the power light on the monitor blink or change color?

[Anonymous No.6728883]

>>6728863
No it remains green

[Anonymous No.6728884]

>>6728821
The on screen menus are an rgb signal generated in the tv's circuitry. Unless you're running rgb signal from your consoles, which probably requires you to rgb mod your tv, it will be more blurry. How are your consoles hooked up? What cables? The only way you would be similar to the clarity of the OSD (on screen display) would be if you're using component. If you're using composite, RF, or S-video it will be more blurry, though S-video is usually really good quality unless using shit cables.

[Anonymous No.6728901]

>>6728884
That wouldn't explain why slapping it cleans up there image. He probably just has a poor contact at the (I assume) RCA jack

[Anonymous No.6728909]

>come across sony trinitron 36"
>laying face down on the grass
>too weak to lift it alone
>have noone to help me lift it

feels bad man. hope that shit is broken.

[Anonymous No.6729268]

>>6726696
2006-2007
Went from soulful 4:3 CRT to soulless 16:9 LCD garbage and Apple Smartphone faggotry and social media.
You're right.

[Anonymous No.6729474]

Skimming through this thread it seems that widescreen/RGB CRT's are like a really rare sought after thing in the states.

In the UK that's like 99% of CRT's though. Is this a PAL thing?

[Anonymous No.6729612]

>>6728909
Can't even roll it upright?

[Anonymous No.6729643]

>>6729474
Widescreen not so much, but RGB CRTs were solidly in professional territory. The closest thing we got in the consumer space was YPbPr component video.

[Anonymous No.6729671]

>>6709814

[Anonymous No.6729723]

>>6720787
>At least my old anime/cartoons look amazing
Based. I don't have a great crt or anything, just an okay one, but I end up mostly using it for anime.

[Anonymous No.6729753]

>>6729612
shit too heavy even with two people. forget it. its a flatscreen xbr model.

[Anonymous No.6729836]

>>6729643
Isn't YPbPr functionally RGB with some mathematical trickery to conserve bandwidth?

[Anonymous No.6729842]

>>6729836
Yes. It's quite literally the same thing, just transmitted differently. At the end the exact same signal reaches the tube.

[Anonymous No.6729873]

>>6729842
In a perfect world that would be true, but real-world results vary due to the extra processing involved in both encoding and decoding the signal. RGB is always going to have a more direct path to the tube.

[Anonymous No.6729874]

>>6729474
We started widescreen broadcasts in the late 90's for SKY, so there was a reason for people to swap, amerifats never switched to widescreen in mass until the HD era so thats why all their widescreen models are HD CRT's, only HD CRT's in the uk are 2 samsung slimfit models.

[Anonymous No.6729990]

>>6729873
It's a mathmatical formula that converts between the two. They should theoretically be identical regardless since it's a lossless conversion. Though that doesn't mean the circuitry in every CRT is going to be perfect so there could be situations where there's interference or something else going on.

[Anonymous No.6730035]

>>6713786
>>6714637
>>6715089
>>6713650
>>6713695
>>6713715
>rgb

[Anonymous No.6730189]

>>6729753
XBR models are the high-end ones

[Anonymous No.6730227]

>>6730189
well me and my buddy cant lift it so fuck it. im still to my panasonic 36"

[Anonymous No.6730440]

>>6729671
aspect raidouuuu

[Anonymous No.6730683]

Anyone recommend me some magnetically shielded speakers that won't break the bank? Just want something a little better than the mono speakers on my crt.

[Anonymous No.6730690]

>>6730683
Any 80s/90s stereo system will have shielded speakers. Modern systems are hit or miss since nobody uses CRTs anymore.

[Anonymous No.6730908]

>>6730683
anything designed for use next to a cassette deck should be shielded, you'd have to go pretty far back for that to be an issue
>>6730690
hmm, hadn't thought of the idea that new things might not need shielding anymore

[Anonymous No.6731076]

https://www.cnet.com/products/nec-multisync-fe791sb-crt-monitor-17-series/ Whatcha think /vr/anons? Currently lurking on it.
Any ideas for 85hz refresh 4:3 vidya/media fun?

[Anonymous No.6731559]

>>6731076
watching blu-ray rips of 4:3 anime at 1440x1080 72Hz

[Anonymous No.6731970]

Are projectors worth it at all?

[Anonymous No.6732108]

>>6731970
Hey, you could prolly sell them on eBay for 40-50 each if they work

[Anonymous No.6732130]

>>6731970
Those look like DLP projectors, which work very similar to LCD but with mirrors that reflect light.

[Anonymous No.6732270]

Have a chance to buy a Sony pvm m2md hopefully for about £100-120 quid is it worth it?

[Anonymous No.6732706]

>>6711594
is there any guide for non scart crts? being in america, those arent gonna be easy/cheap to come by. really interested in what converters/adapters to use for say.. pc vga/dvi - svideo or pc vga/dvi - component (non scart)

[Anonymous No.6732790]

>>6717460
yall is more black than brown.
im an informed white guy

[Anonymous No.6732886]

>>6713786
>>6714637
>>6715089
>>6713650
>>6713695
>>6713715
>rgb

[Anonymous No.6733051]

>>6732270
It's pricey, but still much less than others on ebay will charge you for. For a PVM the price is low. I think they're 600tvl iirc which is higher than most consumer sets you'll find.

[Anonymous No.6733072]

a guy on here once linked me to a store where I bought replacement Sony logo badges for my tv. Does anybody know which store im talking about? I need more

[Anonymous No.6733204]

Got the gaming PC hooked up to the PVM
How do I make scale Sonic Mania to work at 3840x240?

[Anonymous No.6733210]

>>6731970
DLP and CRT projectors are decent. LCD projectors are going to be shit.

[Anonymous No.6733330]

>>6733204
Looks distorted, but what'd you use to connect it anyways?

[Anonymous No.6733350]

Hi, I've been wondering if anyone else has been getting really sensitive from the treatment? I've actually had to start wearing a binder. How long were you on it before you started to notice changes to your voice?

[Anonymous No.6733356]

Sorry, wrong thread. I misread the title as you might imagine, hehe

[Anonymous No.6733358]

>>6733204
I think those superwide resolutions were for VGA crts

[Anonymous No.6733374]

>>6719510
Use it for PS3, Wii, X360, cable

[Anonymous No.6733414]

>>6733330
It's because it's 3840x240 on a 4:3 display. Very distorted.
>AMD card from 2013 with DVI-A output
>DVI to VGA adapter
>VGA output to Kenzei sync combiner
>Kenzei output via SCART
>SCART to BNC adapter board
>RGBs BNC input to PVM

>>6733358
They're used to cover a wide variety of 240p resolutions without having to switch the display resolution.
Doesn't matter however because it runs like shit on Windows. Might as well get a 2010s laptop with VGA output and a half decent GPU.

[Anonymous No.6733746]

>>6733414
>all those adapters
Sounds expensive, I just wanna watch anime off an hdd

[Anonymous No.6733749]

>>6731970
That's not a crt projector

[Anonymous No.6733754]

>>6733749
>it has scanlines
Pretty cool, how much does something like that run for though?

[Anonymous No.6733769]

>>6733754
It varies completely, I've seen people ask from $50 to $500 - still any standalone projector is worlds better than the old rear projection boxes and I've yet to see one without rgbh via bnc connectors, some of the higher end ones will do anything from 240p15khz to damn near 1080p (whatever the 4:3 equivalent is) at 31khz off of vga (rgbhv) running the dual role of a standard def TV and very high end computer monitor

[Anonymous No.6733889]

[Anonymous No.6733928]

>>6733204
You don't need to do that if you're using a regular TV. 3840x240 is for VGA monitors that bottom out at 31kHz. You should be able to send straight 320x240 to the TV and it'll show up correctly.

[Anonymous No.6733935]

>>6733754
>>it has scanlines
Well yes it's a CRT how else does it draw the image?

[Anonymous No.6734072]

>>6733928
There's nothing physically stopping the monitor from displaying a normal 15kHz signal, but many VGA outputs will simply not do anything lower than 640 pixels wide. Both my gaming PC and ThinkPad only display 240p if I use high resolution lines.
Not to mention that 3840x240 can show practically every 240p signal under the sun without much issue.

>>6733746
The only expensive adapter is the sync combiner. Adapters just rewire outputs from one connector to another, they're cheap as dirt.

[Anonymous No.6735109]

>>6733204
you can make anything work with a superwide resolution by making your desktop a 1:1PAR resolution and having your gpu scale it down
so for 3840x240 you want your desktop to be 3840x2880 (4:3), then scaled down to 3840x240, making a kind of anamorphic image where the end result has the correct ratio again
on linux you can do;
xrandr --output VGA-0 --mode 3840x240 --scale-from 3840x2880
this will make your framebuffer 3840x2880, but your output 3840x240

[Anonymous No.6735137]

>>6733204
>>6735109
pic related
i do this myself as well

[Anonymous No.6735467]

I want a crt monitor that can do 144hz!
Where the fuck do I find one? There are no crts on my craigslist. I think the days of cheap crt might be over

[Anonymous No.6735519]

>>6735109
>>6735137
BASED
Thanks anons

[Anonymous No.6735606]

>>6734072
yea, a lot of newer video cards will only output from like 25MHz and up (320x240x60 doesn't even need 7MHz), probably because it's HDMI's minimum and everything is designed around that nowadays
thankfully, analog televisions only care about the number of lines, and don't use pixels, so you can inflate the pixel clock as much as you like by just increasing the horizontal resolution

[Anonymous No.6735852]

>>6713695
all signals are converted to rgb before the neckboard . you can tie into the signals after the ntsc decoder chip. Disclaimer: I've never done it and the signals at that point could be anything depending on how the tv is built so check the specs if you have them. They're probably amplified so you may need to build your own rgb amplifier. you're also cutting out a lot of filtering on the main board so the signal might still be fuzzy but if your tv is gonna have 40+ year old capacitors, it's probably nothing to worry about.

Here's an example:
https://www.reddit.com/r/crtgaming/comments/6d6dqs/successful_rgb_mod_on_a_crappy_old_samsung_vision/

[Anonymous No.6736452]

I've recently picked up a PAL region N64 and a flashcart. It works fine on my 14" Daewoo but on my 20" Samsung the composite signal looks terrible. Colours are all faded, the image is often misaligned and some parts even stutter (like when Mario climbs up a flag pole). The TV has two scart outputs, one for RGB and the other for general AV. RGB output works fine for my other consoles but until I mod the N64, I can only use composite. Anyone have any idea what the issue could be?

[Anonymous No.6736860]

>>6736452
Well the points of failure can only be the TV itself, the port, or the passive adapter as the console and cable work fine on another tv.

Does anything else on that Samsung TV look normal? Do you use that same adapter on the other tv or does it just have composite in on ot? Have you tried swapping ports on the back? Those adapters from scart to av are pretty cheap and prone to failure so that is my assumption until you answer those questions.

[Anonymous No.6737310]

>>6736860
>Does anything else on that Samsung TV look normal?
I've noticed that if the TV has been off for a while, there can be some colour issues on the left side of the screen (see pic related). It's most noticeable when playing 8 bit games that use a lot of flat coloured backgrounds. Degaussing the TV by turning it off and on helps but it never properly goes away.

>Do you use that same adapter on the other tv or does it just have composite in on ot?
Yeah, I used the same adapter on both and the results on my Daewoo were far better and had none of the issues I listed earlier. I even tried it on my LG LCD TV (no external coverters) and it was still a superior to the Samsung.

>Have you tried swapping ports on the back?
The other port on the Samsung is strictly RGB only. I get no picture when I hook up my unmodded N64 to it.

>Those adapters from scart to av are pretty cheap and prone to failure so that is my assumption until you answer those questions.
I've yet to try another but that doesn't explain why the picture was perfectly fine on my other TVs. I do believe it is an issue with the Samsung but I have no idea what it could be.

[Anonymous No.6737316]

>>6737310
I have a Toshiba that has a similar color purity issue that can come up on the right side of the screen. If anyone knows what the cause of this might be (and if it's fixable) I'd be grateful.

[Anonymous No.6737326]

PAL had higher resolution right?

We're the "scan lines" noticable on our TVs? I never once noticed a "scan line" look while growing up but it seems like it's such a huge deal and people talk about how it was authentic and what it looked like back in the day. No TV I have ever seen had that shit on it im wondering if it's a US thing to have big chunky black lines. To me CRT's were blurry but never a bunch of manga looking lines everywhere

[Anonymous No.6737332]

>>6737326
it's a pvmeme thing, scanlines on consumer tv's are so thin you barely see them, especially if you sit a few feet from the tv like you're meant too. It's because of the high tvl on broadcast monitors you get those massive fuck off black bars.

[Anonymous No.6737336]

>>6733769
pic related is a chart of the Sony crt projectors that were produced. The highest resolution available was 2500x2000p which is absurdly high to me. for reference '2k' is 2560x1440. I don't even know of any pc crt monitors that went that high.
This site has a lot of information on crt projector models/specs: http://www.curtpalme.com/PJSpecs_Sony.shtm

[Anonymous No.6737373]

>>6737332
Is it common on arcade monitors too? Cus I was at a Barcade a few months ago and some scan lines were quite noticeable on some of the older cabinets like Tekken Tag Tournament and such.

[Anonymous No.6737396]

>>6713786
>>6714637
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>>6737310
>rgb

[Anonymous No.6737398]

>>6737332
>>6737373
Scanlines would have shown up on any decently sized TV, PAL or NTSC. It only matters if you're using 240p or not. 480i doesn't have black scanlines, because each line is part of a frame.

[Anonymous No.6737426]

If any Seattlefags are interested, there is a 20'' 70's/80's zenith tv at the Capitol Hill goodwill for 30 bucks.

[Anonymous No.6737515]

Do any crt tvs do 100+hz?

[Anonymous No.6737549]

>>6737326
you can only really see gaps between lines with very low resolution signals (ie 240p), regular PAL interlaced 576-line signals are too dense to see individual scanlines clearly on most sets

[Anonymous No.6737564]

>>6737515
yea, my family's widescreen crt tv (not HD) from about 2006 supported 100Hz, it did this mainly to display PAL signals doubled to 100Hz for flicker reduction, i didn't try putting an external 100Hz source on it

[Anonymous No.6737598]

Is this a good monitor to cop for old PC games? What else if anything?
https://www.cnet.com/products/dell-p780/

[Anonymous No.6737608]

>>6737515
no because they would have to go faster than the speed of light

[Anonymous No.6737719]

>>6737598
Any Trinitron PC monitor is at least a certain degree of high end for its time and therefore worth owning if you get the chance.

[Anonymous No.6737775]

>>6715260
>That greenery in the background
>the way just a tiny bit of the morning sun scatters through the room hitting your gear
Fucking hell, so envious of the aesthetics you got going there.
You're making me so nostalgic.

[Anonymous No.6737791]

Very hyped, just nabbed a 2002 Trinitron, curb alert. I'm moving soon and looking forward to setting it up. Have everything packed up now.

[Anonymous No.6737810]

>>6733749
That is disgusting.
Retro games were not meant to be played on huge screens.

[Anonymous No.6737837]

>>6735137
Why is there so much macroblocking in the right picture?

[Anonymous No.6737917]

>>6737837
it's not macroblocking, that is a specific video term which refers to the edges of macroblocks becoming noticable
this is just a low vertical resolution, 240 lines scaled back up to 1080 lines with no interpolation
realistically, these would be scanlines with gaps

[Anonymous No.6737930]

>>6713786
>>6714637
>>6715089
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>>6713695
>>6713715
>>6713786
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>>6737310
>rgb

[Anonymous No.6738176]

would anyone happen to know the model of this trinitron?

[Anonymous No.6738332]

>>6737930
>This post is very low quality

[Anonymous No.6738376]

>>6738176
Used to have one I think it's 36" if that helps.

[Anonymous No.6738547]

>>6738332
>this post will be reposted

[Anonymous No.6738589]

>>6713543
Properly adjust your colours using the smpte pattern. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkQjSAHxxi0
If you can't, fiddle with tint until yellows are "lemony" , bump the saturation to where nothing clips and look over-coloured. (Really obvious in a3D mario game with the shading on marios red hat)
Then bump contrast down to something more reasonable.
Finally adjust the black levels just barely above wher you start losing detail.
>>6712278
Most consumer TVs are happier with th contrast set below 40% or so. Above that you get weird distortion and bump into the brightness-limiter.

>>6713715
CRTs naturally have a really sharp gamma curve target bluey 9300K whites. Print media is usually has 5000K warmth to it, try adjusting your color temp if you display has a setting for it.

>>6713248
>>6715375
All crts come with decent colors and clear motion, even ones flawed in ways that don't matter to emulation.

>>6715874
If you don't need high resolutions, just use what's cheap. The cheap ones are internally hdmi and are limited to HDMI resolutions, but otherwise perfectly serviceable.

>>6717220
Use the service menu to unfuck it.

[Anonymous No.6738647]

>>6737398
Yes but i'm saying if you sit a few feet away from it instead of eyes to the screen you don't notice them on a consumer TV, they're too faint to even care for, it's only on pvmemes where you can see the scanlines from 20 miles away.

[Anonymous No.6738874]

>>6738647
They're gonna be noticeable on anything larger than 14" TV.
Scanlines happen because when a TV is in 240p, it's skipping over drawing every other line. Those lines would normally be filled in with 480i. So they're 100% going to be noticeable on most TVs.

[Anonymous No.6738881]

>>6738874
Forgot my photo. This is some shitter consumer CRT.

[Anonymous No.6738892]

>>6738874
>>6738881
technically speaking, you aren't actually skipping any lines going from 480i to 240p, you're drawing the same number of lines per 60th of a second (assuming 60Hz), the difference is that with 480i you're drawing 240 "even" lines then 240 "odd" lines to create a high resolution frame, while with 240p, you're drawing 240 lines, then the next 240 are drawn over the previous ones, that's it, the only difference is that the fields either don't or do line up with one-another

[Anonymous No.6738901]

>>6738892
True, but then you have to start explaining fields to someone who probably isn't a CRT autist. Anyone who sees scanlines already has some intuitive idea of what a "line" is on a CRT.

[Anonymous No.6738912]

>>6738647
>>6737398
if you're not sure if you'd see scanlines at 240p, check if you can see combing artifacts at 480i
if you can see these, then you'll see scanlines at 240p (they have the same root cause)

[Anonymous No.6738921]

>>6738912
You shouldn't notice anything like that on a normal CRT. By the time the odd fields are drawn the even fields have already started to fade.
The combing artifacts are a problem you get showing interlaced content on a progressive scan display. Progressive scan CRTs are going to do some kind of deinterlacing as well, so even on HDTV CRTs you probably won't see them.

[Anonymous No.6738928]

>>6713786
>>6714637
>>6715089
>>6713650
>>6713695
>>6713715
>>6713786
>>6714637
>>6715089
>>6718102
>>6723453
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>>6737310
>rgb

[Anonymous No.6738950]

>>6738921
you certainly can see combing artifacts on a normal crt, not because both fields are displayed at once, but because of persistence of vision (the same reason the screen doesn't look like a rapidly moving dot, even though it is)

displaying both fields at once on a progressive display is a separate issue, though it produces a similar effect
i can't show you it proper with a still image, but it looks about the same
can't quickly find a high quality 60fps youtube video of sharp 480i60 content to show it properly

[Anonymous No.6739026]

>>6738950
You must have some horrible fucking eyes, a video would show nothing anyway since thats what the camera sees not the human eye.

[Anonymous No.6739046]

>>6738928
i get it, i'm tired of the rgb meme, but circuit bending and hacking tvs isn't the same as someone paying $100s for muh pvm.

[Anonymous No.6739053]

>>6739026
He may not be wrong, but if it's visible with your eyes it's only in very specific situations.

[Anonymous No.6739238]

>>6738589
>The cheap ones are internally hdmi and are limited to HDMI resolutions, but otherwise perfectly serviceable.
Damn, does that mean I'm gonna be cucked with the standard 4:3 60hz resolutions?

[Anonymous No.6739601]

Can you clean CRT screens with windex, etc?

[Anonymous No.6739623]

>>6739601
Depends if your particular CRT has any coating such as antiglare coating, it'll ruin it. The safe bet is just water.

[Anonymous No.6739651]

>>6713543
Here's an Ocarina of Time beta screenshot I obsessed over for years. Cool, right?

[Anonymous No.6739653]

>>6739651
Now here's the high res version I found recently with proper colors. Way less cool.

So yeah, any way to get this effect would be appreciated.

[Anonymous No.6739749]

I was in thread earlier >>6737598 just nabbed this for $20 today for 1024 x 768 / 85 Hz. It's a little beat but the color looks fine. Any advice on how to clean the plastic case? There are also a couple cracks on top and on the power button.

[Anonymous No.6739771]

>>6739749
Damp cloth, maybe some soap, magic eraser for stubborn marks. Might be easier to take the back off and wash it separately.

[Anonymous No.6739784]

>>6712459
They’re beautiful tvs. Way better than most Trinitrons imo

[Anonymous No.6739802]

>>6709814
Alright CRTchads, how feasible is it to get a CRT that supports composite, S-video, and component video, and is around 24 inches in size?

[Anonymous No.6739810]

>>6712616
never skip leg day

[Anonymous No.6739825]

>>6739802
Toshiba A series and JVC D-series both had 27 inch sets that have all those inputs. There are also AF and I'art sets respectively from each thst are flat screen instead of curved.

[Anonymous No.6739842]

>>6739802
If you go 27" actually pretty easy and for free. Most late set TVs with component tend to be on the larger side from my experience. You could probably find a 21" or 24" CRT PC monitor, but you'll likely need an line doubler like the Retrotink if you want to use composite, S video and component.

[Anonymous No.6739894]

>>6739238
No, you can add extra timings just the same, the DP ones just squirt pixeks faster

[Anonymous No.6740159]

>36" JVC D-series being given away in my area for free
>live in house too tiny to fit the TV and overall setup anywhere
pour one out for your fellow poorfags and NEETs

[Anonymous No.6740335]

>>6739653
Buy a tv from the 80s and crank up the color adjustment

[Anonymous No.6740426]

Small TVs are always the cutest but never the most practical

[Anonymous No.6740428]

>>6740426
They get the job done, but you basically have to be right up on them.

[Anonymous No.6740440]

>>6740426
How small you talking? 14" or so is perfect for a desktop setup.

[Anonymous No.6740550]

>>6739894
can I still use oddball resolutions and refresh rates as long as they don't go above 1920x1200@60 (or 70khz idk) then?

[Anonymous No.6740627]

>>6740159
thik i see the same tv. I just do't want to deal with it being so heavy.

[Anonymous No.6740713]

just finished a new stand for my setup recently.
r8h8masterb8

[Anonymous No.6740720]

>>6740713
comfy/10
Good job!

[Anonymous No.6740727]

>>6740713
DIY is based, anon

[Anonymous No.6740812]

>>6740713
Is that pine? It looks terrible.

[Anonymous No.6740817]

>>6740812
pine, cedar, and poplar
thanks. i kinda liked the table saw burn marks.

[Anonymous No.6740831]

>>6740713
Excellent job anon.

[Anonymous No.6740954]

>>6740720
>>6740727
>>6740831
word, thanks. far better than playing on the ground

[Anonymous No.6740974]

>>6740713
DIY is about the only choice now. Most TV stands today can't support a CRT TV. I guess you could go to an antique shop or something too.

[Anonymous No.6740983]

>>6740974
the wheels make all the difference. i can roll it around the corner of the rug and play from the couch.
and the massive drawer (while a bitch to make) has room enough for all my games and extra controllers. the only things i found in antique stores had that crappy fake cherry look or brass hardware.

that stand has no metal on it at all other than the full extension drawer slides.

[Anonymous No.6741006]

>>6740974
If you're using a vintage TV (yes every CRT is vintage by tech standards) might as well use era-appropriate furniture.

[Anonymous No.6741034]

>>6740974
I've seen some people use industrial grade stuff from U-Line for really heavy stuff like the D32E1WU

[Anonymous No.6741045]

>>6740974
Many large CRT TVs came with their own stand. Maybe even then not many stands could support them.

[Anonymous No.6741052]

>>6741045
Your average solid wood TV cabinet could withstand upward of 400 pounds. 260lb CRT + 50 lb speakers + 60 lbs of AV equipment.

[Anonymous No.6741504]

>>6713786
>>6714637
>>6715089
>>6713650
>>6713695
>>6713715
>>6713786
>>6714637
>>6715089
>>6718102
>>6723453
>>6728884
>>6729474
>>6729643
>>6735852
>>6736452
>>6737310
>rgb

[Anonymous No.6741519]

>>6741504
Why do this when it gets so little "payoff"?

[Anonymous No.6741532]

>>6741519
He's clearly trying to get his ISP rangebanned.

[Anonymous No.6741542]

>not putting a huge hole in your wall and placing the TV inside so it's a flat screen

[Anonymous No.6741547]

>>6741542
Unless you know what you're doing that's a great way to start housefires.

[Anonymous No.6742294]

>rgb

[Anonymous No.6742890]

For a crt monitor, is a VGA to DVI going to fuck with the image at all?

[Anonymous No.6742916]

>>6742890
Vga and dvi-a send the same signal so there is no change in picture, however most modern graphics cards have only dvi-d which cannot adapt to vga

[Anonymous No.6742938]

>>6742916
So need a card with dvi-i? Are there converters for dvi-d?

[Anonymous No.6742941]

>>6742916
To clarify, it's these four pins on the far right, in pink, that carry DVI-A. A for analog. Devices that don't support analog have the plus blocked off so you can't plug in an incompatible device

[Anonymous No.6743059]

>>6742938
The fastest non office PC / CAD tier cards to get DVI-I were the 980ti and the r9 390x afaik

Some people use those weird display port to VGA digital to analog adapters but ymmv with those

[Anonymous No.6743186]

>>6743059
last I checked AMD dropped Dvi-i long before the r9 390x, but the 900 series would be last for Nvidia not including the Titan Maxwell

[Anonymous No.6743202]

>>6743059
So the 980Ti is the fastest card our there with VGA?

[Anonymous No.6743257]

>>6743186
I meant the 380x (r9 285) for AMDs side, still the 980ti and Titan are far faster cards.

[Anonymous No.6743260]

>rgb

[Anonymous No.6743264]

>>6743202
No that would be the dual GPU Titan Z card

[Anonymous No.6743371]

>>6743202
>>6743257
>>6743059
Is there a reason to have a high end gpu with DVI-I? I just wanna emulate some gen 2-5 consoles I don't own so I should be good with some cheap gpu? I probably won't ever own anything like the FW-900 for modern gaming unless modern games still support 4:3 resolutions.

[Anonymous No.6743454]

>>6743371
You can get a less powerful card with DVI-I, and use that to output to a CRT. Your computer will still render on the main GPU.
There's a performance hit, but for emulation it really won't matter. There's also probably some latency added as well because the rendered image has to be sent through the PCI express connection to the other video card's RAMDAC to output VGA.

[Anonymous No.6743563]

>>6743371
I doubt it, most fifth gen emulation can run on today's onboard Intel/Vega graphics which probably already have VGA on board still.

[Anonymous No.6743570]

>>6742938
>>6743059
>>6743202
>>6743371
if you are willing to buy an entire gpu just to use a crt, why don't you invest in one of those memehdmi/displayport to vga instead? the "high end" ones are like 50 papers at most

[Anonymous No.6743975]

>>6743570
Are they meme or do they work well? Wat are high end ones?

[Anonymous No.6744039]

>rgb

[Anonymous No.6744051]

>>6743975
StarTech DP2VGAHD20 has a DAC that goes up to 375mhz. Runs my 2060u at 2048x1536 75hz just fine. Also does 1080p110.

[Anonymous No.6744064]

>>6744039

[Anonymous No.6744136]

Sony XBR. Curved one with component

[Anonymous No.6744350]

>>6744064

[Anonymous No.6744391]

>>6740713
Should've added a third shelf to hook up more consoles or a VHS/LD player, but otherwise it looks very comfy.

[Anonymous No.6744475]

>rgb

[Anonymous No.6744602]

>>6744136
>stereo on top of tv
Enjoy your fucked up colors.

[Anonymous No.6744607]

>>6743975
They work well, they are a "meme" in the sense that they are somewhat overkill with most crts. There are some specialized devices like the "Delock 62967/87685" and "Sunix DPU3000", but any active hdmi/dp to vga adapter that "supports up to 4k 60hz" should be fine.

[Anonymous No.6744646]

>>6743975
>Are they meme or do they work well? Wat are high end ones?
My $20 Tendak does everything up to 1920x1080 just fine.

[Anonymous No.6745624]

>>6715902
When you order like a shirt he gives you like 10 bumper stickers my fiend gave me one.

[Anonymous No.6745889]

>>6744136
>tiny room
>beard
>overweight
Early to mid 20s college kid?

[Anonymous No.6746074]

>>6744136
Nice TV. Understandable that the other posters are be salty that it's not theirs.

[Anonymous No.6746192]

Picked up one of these at Goodwill today for $10. I used to have the exact same kind back in the day so its a little sentimental. It only has composite inputs but I'm not too picky

[Anonymous No.6746234]

>>6745889
Probably stole that one off reddit. No 4chan user would post an image like that.

[Anonymous No.6746276]

>>6744136
Curved screen with component is peak gaming.

[Anonymous No.6747050]

>>6746276
They're also very rare. By the time component became mainstream so did flatscreen tubes.

[Anonymous No.6747116]

should I grab it?

[Anonymous No.6747207]

>>6746276
JVC D Series moment

[Anonymous No.6747248]

>>6747207
I prefer Toshiba A series

[Anonymous No.6747386]

>>6747116
fuck yeah, then ask her to sit her fat brapper on your face when you go to pick it up

[Anonymous No.6747713]

>>6747116
>no description
>"TV" as the title
This is how you get CRTs for cheap. Instead of paying $500 for shit like "RETRO 14 INCH SONY TRINITRON GAMING CRT TUBE TV RARE L@@K"

[Anonymous No.6747820]

>>6747713
It's becoming rarer and rarer though. You're basically limited to old people now. Everyone else now tries to sell their composite only 90s television as "retro gaming". Even a late 80s woodpanel 13inch Hitachi or RCA, otherwise known as "every millennial's first gaming TV" is like $40 from a typical seller.

[Anonymous No.6747880]

>>6747386
Based.

I stop rubbing my gf's butt to post this.

[Anonymous No.6747952]

I have a nice 32" JVC out in the garage, but I can still hear the whine on it so it's sitting out there until my hearing gets worse.

[Anonymous No.6748156]

Tying to get proper 240p out of my wii using retroarch for SNES.
What should I be setting the output to for games like chrono trigger?

[Anonymous No.6748291]

>>6748156
480i/60hz and non widescreen.

[Anonymous No.6748421]

>>6710034
Post your bonsai

[Anonymous No.6748437]

>>6719326
Look up "Don't Shitpost, I'm Scared"

[Anonymous No.6748473]

>rgb

[Anonymous No.6748587]

>>6742890
if its a vga monitor just use a hdmi to vga or display port to vga adapter. They don't introduce any lag and the image is great. unless it's a standard definition cut, there's no reason to use anything more complicated. You also don't need to limit your computer with a lesser graphics card. I use an rtx 2070 super and it works great with even my 90s IBM monitor.

[Anonymous No.6748617]

>>6744607
>rgb

[Anonymous No.6748731]

Found a Toshiba 32A35C tv, should I go for it? It looks decent.

[Anonymous No.6748746]

Found a Toshiba 32A35C is this a good tv or nah?

[Anonymous No.6748814]

>>6748746
The Toshiba A series is excellent. Does it have component?

[Anonymous No.6748819]

>>6748814
Yeah it does.

[Anonymous No.6748835]

>>6748819
Then you're golden. You basically have an arcade monitor quality television, which makes it perfect for video games. Yes, even more perfect than a PVM ehich games were never meant for.

[Anonymous No.6749943]

>>6744391
>third shelf
I really didn't want it to be any taller than it currently is. If I ever feel like adding (not sure I ever will, desu. mayyybe an xbox or ps1), I could just use the top shelf which currently only has 3 controllers and a remote (plus a dummy remote for my 2 year old to distract her).
absolutely no need for a third shelf.

[Anonymous No.6750024]

42 inch Panasonic Viera plasma near me for 80 dollars, is it worth? Redpill me on plasma tvs

[Anonymous No.6750027]

$80 is a lot for a plasma.

[Anonymous No.6750171]

>>6750024
Look for a late era Pioneer Kuro. They can look just as good as OLEDs when properly calibrated. Late era plasmas are generally better built and will naturally have less hours on them, making them less prone to having burn in.

Only problem is Kuro are the "pvms" of Plasmas, in that the people who realize what they have will charge inflated prices for a TV a decade old.

[Anonymous No.6750179]

>>6750171
Yeah there's no way I can find that locally.

[Anonymous No.6750329]

I have a dumb question about capacitors. Non-polar capacitors can be used to replaced polarized ones, and the orientation of the non-polar capacitor doesn't matter, right?

[Anonymous No.6750383]

Just got a 24" Sylvania for $10. Picture is great, I'm digging it.

[Anonymous No.6750404]

>>6750024
Plasma aficionado here. Kuro are indeed the best but later (11th gen onwards) Panasonic can be virtually as good and are a bit newer to boot. Very few plasmas under 50 inch are native 1080p so make sure to check that first.
Agree with >>6750171 in that a plasma can rival OLED in loads of ways. Don't rule out sets that aren't Pioneer though. Panasonic actually bought Pioneer's TV division sometime around 2009 iirc, which allowed their sets to rival Pioneer's best. I haven't found plasmas to suffer from colour shift too badly but expect a possibly dim image or slightly off white point.

For some reason, myself and many others have found plasmas to have better scaling than their LCD counterparts. Being fixed pixel displays this sounds anecdotal but they're definitely a step above for displaying lower resolution content. The better sets are also immune to motion blur and have low-ish input lag.

[Anonymous No.6751063]

>>6750404
It is likely 720p max. I plan on using it with original hardware so 240p, is plasma naturally "lag free" like crts are, unlike lcds?

[Anonymous No.6751073]

>rgb

[Anonymous No.6751296]

>>6751063
Plasma itself is lag free but all plasmas use post-processing to an extent so your mileage will vary a lot. Go out of your way to turn off all the processing you can and they generally clock under 50ms lag.

[Anonymous No.6751773]

>rgb

[Anonymous No.6752558]

>>6732706
jhvkjgck

[Anonymous No.6752634]

>rgb

[Anonymous No.6752637]

>>6747116
Grab what, that huge ass?

[Anonymous No.6752640]

Is there a demand for them right now? I have several up in the attic.

[Anonymous No.6752661]

>>6752640
Throw some on Craigslist for like $50 each. You will definitely scam some neckbeards and zoomies.

[Anonymous No.6752710]

I have a 29" TV that needs a new tube, any ideas where I could maybe source one? I'd be happy to buy, it's just a case of finding literally anything

[Anonymous No.6753348]

>>6752640
Yes. I sold one of those 9 inch with VCR units for $45 to a smashfag. Composite only and mono audio and they took it within a day of posting.

[Anonymous No.6753358]

Does degaussing fix that patch of weird colors on the screen? In the corner of my tv, I've got this ball of purple, and I've tried degaussing it three times, but I can't seem to make it fully go away.

[Anonymous No.6753385]

>>6752710
Are you sure it needs a new tube? Unless its a burn in issue tubes rarely are the main point of fail. Usually its capacitors or some shit.

[Anonymous No.6753516]

>>6753358
Yes. You either need a stronger degaussing coil or the magnetism bent the mask out of shape permanently in which case tele fucked

[Anonymous No.6753865]

im trying to do some of those pics that are just aesthetic setups made purely for looks. I have far too many sets I don't really use and wanted to make something fun with them. how am I doin?

[Anonymous No.6754238]

>>6753865
Imo objects on top of the TV don't look good, I'd put the clock on the desk

[Anonymous No.6754274]

>>6710014

no fucking way
you are an autistic meme shitter

RF hookup is the most superior thing in the history of all time for retro consoles
the picture and colors are just fine, but RF provides a unique filtering effect which makes all those classic games look much better thab anything else
really, its the way those games were meant to be played

[Anonymous No.6754302]

>>6719901

BRO
RF LOOKS BETTER THAN ANYTHING ELSE
ANYTHING BELOW ps2/xbox classic/gamecube THAT IS

I CANT BELIVEVE RF IS NOT A THING
PEOPLE just assume its an inferior connection because of its properties
but the "inferior" nature of the signal actually amounts to an amazing filter effect which looks much better than anything else
honestly its the only way any retro game should be played

i dont remember how the ps2 looked on RF but it probably is also best for that entire generation of system too
it pisses me off how everyone ignores RF in favor for tryhard RGB and composite bullshit. i hate mass stupidity of people believing they are choosing a superior connection but actually getting an inferior one

[Anonymous No.6754313]

>>6720201

its not a fuzzy image when your system is outputting some ultra low msdos tier resolution
holy shit i cant believe people are this stupid

the "fuzzy" image provides a perfect anti aliasing effect
its really not a low quality image at all,
but actually looks better

[Anonymous No.6754346]

>>6754313
It's not about low resolutions, is about straight up degradation. It's interference that sends not just fuzzy, but incorrect image data

[Anonymous No.6754557]

My PVM-6. Got this for £20 with portabrace jacket. Still trying to get an rgb modded 64 and everdrive.

[Anonymous No.6754559]

>>6754557
obese hands typed this

[Anonymous No.6754561]

>>6754557
My phone has a bigger screen than that.

[Anonymous No.6754609]

>>6754561

It's fine for a desktop monitor, runs on batteries also if you wish. I am pretty casual on the retro console scene and just bought it to keep my old consoles playable from time to time. Wouldn't recommend multiplayer perfect dark however

[Anonymous No.6755034]

>>6751296
I found another plasma that is the same size but a little cheaper from what I can see. Sharp plasma, what is the deal with this? Can't find much info on it.

[Anonymous No.6755049]

>>6755034
Looks like it is a military base only produced product that was only found in the commissary.

[Anonymous No.6755056]

>>6755049
>>6755034
Sabre*
I'm retarded.

[Anonymous No.6755164]

>>6709814

[Anonymous No.6755167]

whats the best PC monitor CRT?

[Anonymous No.6755169]

>>6755164

[Anonymous No.6755184]

>>6755167
Sony FW900 or Mitsubishi DP2070SB

[Anonymous No.6755454]

>>6754346

there is no "degradation" you retard
and yes, the low resolution is everything for the RF effect to be useful
low res games, up to 640x480 and lower, have giant pixels, as if you havent fucking noticed
and the RF effect blends them together perfectly

you really must not understand how CRTs operate. the colors and clarity are the same as any other connection. you must not have owned any high quality CRTs from the 90s with RF to remember this
the only difference is the RF signal produces sort of a blending effect which makes a huge difference and looks amazing on retro systems all the way up to PS2

[Anonymous No.6755463]

[Anonymous No.6755468]

>>6755454

computers on the otherhand need perfect drawing accuracy because every pixel counts, such as pixels for fonts and icons
video games are totally opposite of this

the RF signal produces something like 2xSal filter effect but looks much more natural and appeasing

[Anonymous No.6755481]

>>6755468

screenshot comparisons dont really do justice for RF, because they are all shots taken close to the screen
that is not how you actually play video games
you have to actually play the game at the usual distance you normally would to understand

up close screenshot comparisons look much better for composite and RGB but you also have to remember that CRT tv pixels look like shit to begin with
its not something you want to perfectly reproduce

god why are people so fucking stupid

[Anonymous No.6755579]

For me its the 1992 kv-27xbr55 with detachable side mount satellite speakers a rear top mount super woofer.

[Anonymous No.6755591]

For me its the 1992 kv-27xbr55 with detachable side mount satellite speakers and rear top mount super woofer.

[Anonymous No.6755702]

>>6755164
>pvm

[Anonymous No.6756975]

>>6755591
Pretty cool set, but do you have a bunch of mini bikes in your house?

[Anonymous No.6757160]

You guys almost memed me into getting a CRT then I remembered my old systems in the attic are PAL

Can you hook up any 2000+ consoles to CRT's? Play the games through those?

[Anonymous No.6757202]

bruh...

[Anonymous No.6757218]

>>6757202
Great, now how many of them actually work?

[Anonymous No.6757369]

>>6757202
BRUH

>>6757218
This is how jealous I am, I'm absolutely seething like this guy

[Anonymous No.6757465]

>>6757202
What am I looking at here?

[Anonymous No.6757493]

>>6712880
Which coin did Mario miss?

[Anonymous No.6757517]

I put my CRT on the curb last week. It was a fine working little Sony, but at the end of the day I'll never capture the feeling of living in an older era that I'm chasing. I'm selling all my hardware too. See you, luma cowboys...

[Anonymous No.6757526]

>>6757517
Absolutely retarded. You never going to listen to old music again too? Never watch a movie from before the 2010's?

Stupid idiot.

[Anonymous No.6757531]

>>6757517
If you're selling anything online, could you give us a link?

[Anonymous No.6757548]

A "light" CRT doesn't exist. Look for a nice Trinitron or a PVM if you can find one

[Anonymous No.6757549]

>>6757526
/vr/ in a nutshell right here.
>I hate collectors
>You're retarded for not holding on to your games

[Anonymous No.6757554]

>>6757549
>Everyone has to collectively share the same exact opinions about everything

Are you 12?

[Anonymous No.6757574]

>>6757554
>Everyone has to collectively share the same exact opinions about everything

So why are you mad that I don't want my games anymore?

[Anonymous No.6757581]

>>6757574
Becuase I think your reasoning is retarded.

Are you going to answer my questions about old music and movies?

[Anonymous No.6757601]

>>6757581
He didnt say that he wouldn't engage in old media, just that he's getting rid of old hardware. And its a reasonable decision since that hardware is big, heavy and not particularly useful for anything that isnt over 20 years old at this point.

[Anonymous No.6757606]

>>6757581
Sure. It's all on my computer now.

As for my reasoning; I can't capture the feeling of being a child again, much less a child growing up in 1980s Japan, so I'm disillusioned with my collection and would like for others to own it, maybe it'll make them happy.

>>6757531
Just eBay.

[Anonymous No.6757841]

>>6757465
Looks like a warehouse shelf with 6 CRTs.

[Anonymous No.6758049]

>>6757202
bruh

[Anonymous No.6758182]

>>6757202
>hoarding 6 of them
I never understood why people need more than 1 or 2 at most. I guess you could larp as Carmack in each room of your house.

[Anonymous No.6758245]

>>6757841
Yes but whats special about them

[Anonymous No.6758319]

>>6758245
They're the same 16:9 CRT monitors John Carmack used. There aren't many out there because they retailed for ~10k the Sony FW900 only retailed for a fraction of that cost and that was already considered insanely expensive.

[Anonymous No.6758521]

>>6758182
Hey everyone, imagine owning fewer than 10 like this guy. lmao

[Anonymous No.6758763]

>>6758319
Those CRTs are the equivalent of 32" 720p TVs. Sure the screen is big, but the resolution is relatively low. I'd rather take a 21" CRT that can do 2048x1536.

[Anonymous No.6758873]

>>6758763
I don't own one so I don't really now, but google says they can go up to 2048 x 1152.

[Anonymous No.6758893]

My crt ramps up the green gun and changes to a red tint like in this video
http://imgur.com/a/1Av3hKz
What is the fix for this? Considering just throwing it out because I've fucked in the service menu for like tow weeks now and I still can't fix it.

[Anonymous No.6758963]

>>6757160
wii can emulate a lot of older consoles with 240p output, PS2 can play PS1 games.
xbox 360, PS3 and wii u also have analog output, but output 480i minimum so they're subpar for 240p games. PS3 can be a decent media player if you want to watch stuff on a CRT.

[Anonymous No.6759125]

>>6757606
give eBay account so I could lowball you and then send harassing messages when you inevitably ignore my offers or flat out reject them.

[Anonymous No.6759150]

>>6712616
Based

[Anonymous No.6759483]

anime 240p

[Anonymous No.6759496]

>>6759483
Been watching the AMC Love the 80s movie marathon on mine. Shit is fuckin kino.

[Anonymous No.6759602]

>>6759483
Do you mean 480i? Video would look fucked up at 240p.

[Anonymous No.6759614]

>rgb

[Anonymous No.6759618]

>upscalers

[Anonymous No.6759627]

>>6759618
>scart

[Anonymous No.6759629]

>pvm

[Anonymous No.6759636]

>back pain

[Anonymous No.6759639]

>falling for a meme

[Anonymous No.6759641]

>when the eceleb tells me to buy a crt

[Anonymous No.6759649]

>>6755164
>needing a telescope to use your monitor

[Anonymous No.6759658]

You all fell for a meme! Dumdums!

[Anonymous No.6759668]

>>6759602
Semi related fun fact, many older games such as xenogears (I think) had 240p anime cutscenes, as did many movies on the video cd format

[Anonymous No.6759687]

>>6759668
Didn't most of those require extra hardware like a mpeg encoder on the Saturn? How hard would it be to run 4:3 anime through handbrake and burn it to vcd through roxio or something?

What would be the easiest way to get digital video on a crt? My guess would be a 360/PS3, particularly a PS3 if you want to both run the video off Plex and have it output native rgb (or component or svideo).

[Anonymous No.6759702]

>>6759668
how is that fun?

[Anonymous No.6759809]

>>6759687
Many dvd players support VCD and also output component video, rgb if euro. I don't think the ps3 supports VCD but I could be wrong. An issue with burning anime to VCD, while doable, is that it would look so bad as you essentially throw away half of the frames (VCD is 30fps not 60)

[Anonymous No.6759819]

>>6756975
They are actually house bikes, but yes.

[Anonymous No.6759828]

>>6759687
But to note, yes the ps3 is the best digital source to crt pipeline available. Although it cannot transcode an ntsc DVD to the rgb color space; it will revert to component

[Anonymous No.6759882]

>>6759828
Does that only matter when playing physical DVD releases or does it also matter for non converted dvd rips of sorts?

[Anonymous No.6759909]

>>6759809
What's the point of burning VCDs for ps3? Wouldn't DVD-R be better?

[Anonymous No.6759982]

>>6753385
I'll be completely honest, I have no idea if the chassis actually works (but was not described as having any faults). The tube is visibly burned, but it's an MS9 in a frame. Sega original so I'm kinda kicking myself, since it's from a candy cab and I doubt anything else will match the bezel curve exactly.
I can repair basic chassis issues and have a tech available who can repair or replace fairly cheap. So worth chasing in my case.

[Anonymous No.6760406]

>>6757202

[Anonymous No.6760675]

>>6759909
Why even bother burning anything when you can play HD video files off of USB anyway?

[Anonymous No.6760743]

>>6759882
dunno, I've never tried playing a dvd rip off of a hard drive. If you streamed the file over a media server it wouldn't be a problem because the computer does the heavy lifting (this is why mkv's can be streamed but not read directly by the ps3)

[Anonymous No.6760745]

>>6760406
impressive, but that shit's got to weigh at least half a ton

[Anonymous No.6760773]

Zoomer here, is a crt pc monitor a good option for retro gaming? Is it authentic?

[Anonymous No.6761246]

>>6760773
tldr yes but you have to go thru some hoops
a vga crt monitor is almost the same as an rgb crt, but it can't output 240p on its own
if you're using original hardware, you can use an OSSC to get near PVM results[citation needed], if you're emulating, you can use custom resolutions to output at 240p, then if you want you can combine it with an ntsc to make it look like a composite signal

[Anonymous No.6761253]

>>6761246
ntsc filter*
FUCK

[Anonymous No.6761276]

>>6761246
>you can use an OSSC to get near PVM results[citation needed]
Here's your citation, bro.

[Anonymous No.6761368]

>>6712459
D-series are fantastic televisions. I would not say they are better than Trinitrons, just different. For sure they are peak shadow mask, and better than any other consumer shadow mask set I've seen.

Also for anyone in the Toronto area, there is a 32" JVC D-Series on Allenhead Crescent in Brampton. Looks to be in good shape, it's currently out by the curb. I would take it but I already have a 36" D-series and a 32" Sony at the cottage, so I'm kind of done with massive CRTs.

>>6714105
>>6714118
I actually gave away an NEC Multisync 75 a few months ago. It didn't push any crazy resolutions or refresh rates, but it was a nice little monitor that had great colour and was super crisp.

>>6740713
Nice, DIY and/or solid wood is the way to go.

>>6741045
To be honest, most of the stands that came with old CRT televisions were just pressboard. Nothing special, and not super durable. We had to get rid of the stand for our 32" Sony after a very, very minor water event completely ruined it.

[Anonymous No.6761417]

>>6760773
PC monitors typically use dotmask style shadowmasks which is good for really fine text. Most shadowmask TVs and arcade monitors were slotmasks so they'll look different. There are some trinitron PC monitors though if you want the look of a Sony aperture grill.

[Anonymous No.6761613]

>>6759483
sauce

[Anonymous No.6761618]

>>6729753
you literally need to lift more

[Anonymous No.6761765]

>sending messages to people on facebook marketplace trying to buy crts
>they're all old so nobody is responding
JUST LET ME BUY THEM